Jobs to Keynote Paris

[arn]

MacWorld UK (http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=5160) reports that Steve Jobs will deliver the keynote address at MacWorld Paris.

MacWorld Paris Expo begins on Sept 10, 2002.

No word on whether or not the keynote will be streamed.

[Hawthorne]

"2 ghz Power4Lites in all Powermacs, starting a month from now."

-begin demo from suitable IBM exec, showing how the the new chip's performance turns Pentium IV's into bleeding, twitching corpses.

-Steve walks over to podium, pulls cover off of new, cool logo for IBM chip, while talking about how it will destroy.

And then, I woke up.

:)

[SubFredZero]

Probably just a demo of the new g4's running jaguar

[djniche]

iphone??

icamera?

i think this iw what's next - a new digital hub apple release.
It's a macworld after all. PM demos and the new iphone, icamera would be great

[mcrain]

Maybe we could see a new Powerbook in the land of the frogs?

Maybe a new tree frog version of the iBook?

(btw, I'm being obnoxious because of the PC thread not because I have any dislike for the French. Merely being tongue in cheek.)

[makkystyle]

why does apple keep all their info locked up so tight. really pisses me off. Just tell me damnit!!!

[topicolo]

I hope the Steve Jobs fairy will bring me some nice presents on my birthday (Sept. 10, MW Paris Expo). I new iphone would be very nice.

[mymemory]

Apple looks more a political party: They create spectations that are never furfill.

[topicolo]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[TyleRomeo]

anyone know if any new hardware came out last MWP?

[MacUser1]

I would really like to see an "iPhone" or a similar device. I would love to see some new displays, too. :)

[IndyGopher]

Dunno.. Apple pulled out of the last one because of the 9/11 mess... 2 years ago they released OS X at Paris.. does that count?

[bertinman]

Why is Steve doing another Key Note in a row? how many is it so far? I got the impression that him speaking was a rare thing when I first decided to care about the Expos in January. If indeed, then he should let someone else speak because he'll make himself predictable in his speaches and then when he doesn't speak at the next one, people will be upset (not that they don't get upset for no apparent reason anyway...:rolleyes: ).

He should keep us wanting, have somone else roll out some of the medium guns for once, and then when hes got that new cold-fusion powered tank... leave us all speachless.

I'm still new, so I'll be glued/inspired by most new Apple information but soon I won't be. Things like .Mac, iCal and iSync are cool and all, but they didn't need the king to come out of his private throne room to tell us about them, he should have let his #1 or #2 guy let us know about them (read from a cool oldfashion scroll no doubt too :D).

my 2 cents on this subject...

-- Bert :cool:

[Q-bert]

Originally posted by bertinman
Why is Steve doing another Key Note in a row?Err, because he's the CEO of the company? It's not Jobs' problem here, it's ours. We keep thinking because he's talking, something special must be coming. Well, not necessarily. He's there because it's the only major Apple show in Europe, and probably because he wants to make an appearance in each market at least once a year.

The only over-hyped expectations are created in people's minds. MWSF excepting, Apple NEVER says anything about anything they're working on, yet we find comments like this:

"Apple looks more a political party: They create spectations that are never furfill. (sp)"

So the mere presence of Steve Jobs at an Apple event (the company he runs) "creates spectations"? Is that his fault, or ours?

[ShaolinMiddleFinger]

oh joy!?!?!! Look out for new rumors of apple pda's, phones, iapps, and anything else we can come up with.

I personally won't believe the rumors anymore.

[mnkeybsness]

i agree that it will probably be to just show the new powermacs and jaguar and maybe talk about some more software...to release a new product at paris would be pretty dumb...mwny is so much bigger and so many more people go.

[TyleRomeo]

ive been following macs since MWSF 2001 and so far they have released some sort of hardware at each of the four yearly macworlds. Why aren't you guys talking rumors about this years Paris show?

Do all of you belive that no new hardware will come out? I mean I'm a total pesemist (can't spell) at this site and often shoot down most of the G5 talks or whatever apears here, but I am certain that some new hardware will apear within the next 3 weeks.

Even tokyo came out with a new 10GB iPod and the 23 HD cinema
So why can't paris release a new LCD or/and a new device?

Seems pretty logical to me

[bertinman]

Originally posted by Q-bert
So the mere presence of Steve Jobs at an Apple event (the company he runs) "creates spectations"? Is that his fault, or ours?

Noble words, fellow bert.

Could it not be both? The masses are single identities which could calm themselves. But couldn't Steve see that people are never calm when in such a large group? If he is trying to gain more followers (which I think he is doing), he has alot of options.

One is to show up everywhere. This leads to people extremly happy where ever he goes. The people will get pumped up, so to speak. After a few years of this, everyone will be pumped, and they will start to expect new things every time he appears (or even when he is mentioned). This could be dangerous for him because disappointed fans can be ruthless. They could switch back because what they want or dream of isn't available, plus convincing other to as well.

Two, he could stay distanced and have mystery surround him (kinda like Bill Gates... I hardly ever see him in the news -- unless he's in court). The people will be less caring about what is new, and people will just buy the new stuff and go on with their lives. This could be bad too, because someone like #1 could convince them to switch over to them with simple rhetoric (kinda like SJ does with his adds and speaches).

Or, like I was saying, he could combine the two and have the followers and the people who just don't care mixed together. The followers will get others to follow fanatically and the non-carers will convince the followers to go do something else with their lives like sports or the movies... This way he has got both sides working for him.

I don't have as many words (or fluff) for the other side of the arguement (maybe you could help) but I do believe in the analogy of people as a whole are like a river, and leaders are the farmers with bouldosers which need the water for their crops--they need to know what the currents are so that they can direct the river smartly towards themselves so that their dams do not get washed away.

end of rant...

-- Bert :cool:

[JW Pepper]

I think it is odd that Apple hates these rumour sites because rumours can effect the sales of current hardware; and then proceeds to make an announcement like this months in advance leading to a new round of speculation.

Why not save this announcement until December. We were just entering a new period where most people seem to accept that there will be no new PowerMac upgrades until 2003. Whilst there is speculation as to wether the Power 4 chip is going to become the Moto replacement, it isn't expected until the second half of 2003.

This annoncement can only fuel speculation the Steve is going there for a reason. It's all guesswork, but the effect is the same afterall it's only 3 month to January...I can wait...

[rugby]

This is for MW in Paris which starts on Sept 10th, NOT MW San Francisco which is in January.


Originally posted by JW Pepper
I think it is odd that Apple hates these rumour sites because rumours can effect the sales of current hardware; and then proceeds to make an announcement like this months in advance leading to a new round of speculation.

Why not save this announcement until December. We were just entering a new period where most people seem to accept that there will be no new PowerMac upgrades until 2003. Whilst there is speculation as to wether the Power 4 chip is going to become the Moto replacement, it isn't expected until the second half of 2003.

This annoncement can only fuel speculation the Steve is going there for a reason. It's all guesswork, but the effect is the same afterall it's only 3 month to January...I can wait...

[welborn]

There won't be a stream. Currently Apple only streams two events a year -- the US MacWorld events.

[Blackcat]

MW Paris is usually just the European rehash of MWNY, much like MWTK is the East Asia of MWSF. Whatever new product is due will get mentioned (which looks like it could be screens or iBooks) but I think it will be mostly Jagwire.

Remember, Apple doesn't release just at Expos anymore.

[Q-bert]

Originally posted by JW Pepper
I think it is odd that Apple hates these rumour sites because rumours can effect the sales of current hardware; and then proceeds to make an announcement like this months in advance leading to a new round of speculation.The other option is no good either. Steve Jobs should speak in different countries where Apple sells products at least on an occasional basis, especially around the release of a major new product (OS X 10.2). How would you feel if Apple were a French company selling computers to American buyers, yet the CEO never made an appearance at a US trade show merely because it *might* create speculation from those on the internet whose hobby is to speculate in the first place? This is "MacRumors", after all...

And, as someone pointed out, this announcement is just a PR schedule, and it's for a show coming up sooner than you think (September). There's nothing wrong with the timing of this. I don't know why some people here think that Jobs shouldn't speak unless he has earth-shattering news for all of us, or if he does speak then by extension he WILL have earth-shattering news to announce. I don't want to put him on that kind of pedestal, he's just a businessman, not the messiah. This ain't the gospel according to Steve - I just happen to buy and like the computers his company makes, nothing more.

To bertinman:

It's a good point, that Jobs himself creates some of the hype because of past behavior. But ultimately, I think most of the blame falls on us, readers and participators in the Mac rumor site merry-go-round. Even if Jobs were to stop talking completely tomorrow, these sites would still speculate up a storm about whatever Apple were to introduce, which is why I think the problem is not on Apple's side of the fence.

[djniche]

ealy september is time for release of the new isync and ical applications - can it be posibble this were pushed to macworld paris to come out with iphone?? coincidence that this applications all can be use in a phone/ pda with those features?

why not - it would be very logical to have all the new jaguar features to come out this weekend. And be used along with isync and ical with the unveil of the iphone on macworld paris. I wouldnt rule out a new lcd either.

[Macmaniac]

Its maybe that time for new powerbooks and iBooks. It has been 5 months since an update I think. Also XServe might get 1.25ghz processors added. Please Steve say "Oh and one more thing"

(Steals djniche's pants);)

[Rower_CPU]

Three letters: L C D

I hope/pray for updated displays and price drops across the board...

[suzerain]

I dunno...not to burst anyone's bubble, or anything, but I think Jobs doing the Paris Expo is as much of an apology to Europe as anything, for canceling last year's event (rather than rescheduling) after September 11th.

Speed-bumped iBooks, or something might be likely, but I'd expect nothing major.

[Foocha]

I suspect the only news will be the release of iCal and iSync - perhaps we'll get more info on how well iSync works with Palm... and who knows, maybe even Pocket PC support!

I think it's nice that Steve pops over the Atlantic every once in a while to indulge us Euros - even if he doesn't have anything new to say!

[Blackcat]

how about iSync for Newton (2000/2100/eMate) ?

[G4scott]

iThink that new displays are the best bet for Paris...

But you never know if Apple will introduce some new 'digital device' during the keynote. Lately Steve hasn't had much surprises up his sleeves, and he really needs to get on the ball ;)

iWouldn't expect a stream, though. iDon't think there's ever been a QT stream from MW Paris or MWTK...

iSure hope that they introduce something good :cool:

[sjonni]

:D :D
I hope he gives us 19 in wide HD display and drop the prices on the 23 and 22 ones.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[whfsdude]

Jobs will start up with the simple updates:
He will go over the recent software updates and explain why you should upgrade to 10.2 (Phil might also due this, donno)
iCal release
iSync release
He will have the CEO of Palm prob :)
Scanner support (something on that)
Also bluetooth build into airport so you only have to buy one bluetooth thing :)

New powerbooks, 900mhz G4

If we see and ibook SE they are trying to get rid of G4 chips which means G5 MWSF

If we see no Xserve update also means G5 MWSF


:D

[ibookin']

Originally posted by whfsdude
If we see and ibook SE they are trying to get rid of G4 chips which means G5 MWSF
:D

I, for one, would like to see this happen. Not only would we finally get a smaller G4 laptop, but we would also get the proverbial holy grail that is the G5 at MWSF. If the G5 incorporates a scaled-down version of IBM's Power4, this machine would obviously toast any Intel or AMD-based machine given a high clock speed, and would give Apple a sorely needed edge in the power user market.

MW Paris:
"Oh, and one more thing. Here at Apple we recognize the need for a smaller laptop. That is why I am proud to release the 12.1" Titanium Powerbook G4, complete with a 933MHz G4 CPU. We will also have a trade-up program for owners of G3 iBooks, who will be able to purchase a new 12.1" Powerbook for $999."

MWSF:
"Oh, and one ore thing. IBM touted it's Power4 CPU at the Microprocessor Conference in October last year. Today, we are releasing the first consumer machine incorporating that chip; the new Power Macintosh G5. The new PowerMac will run at speeds of up to 3.4GHz, with Dual Processors across the board. This machine scorches any Windows machine available as of today."

And then I woke up...:(

[BeePotato]

Originally posted by djniche
It's a macworld after all.

Well, in fact, not exactly.
People should stop calling it MacWorld Paris. It is not a MacWorld Expo. It's Apple Expo Paris, as it has always been for the last 20 years (and, obviously, it couldn't be called MacWorld then !).

Ok, it's not very important, but... "MacWorld" would just sound too American for us in France. :)

[Nonosse]

Yep, why not ?

That might be fair for MacWorld all over the world to share big announcements once in a while. Might be nice also for Paris this year, as a compensation for no Apple Expo last year in Paris.

Last keynote was indeed quite empty (just software), maybe something bigger now ?

I'm a little skeptical about the iPhone, nevertheless.
I expect some highly performing device, therefore slightly oversized, and absolutely overexpensive. But it could match with the release of the common adress book of Jaguar.

And about the G5: we heard lots of expectations about it last weeks on this site, all saying how hard it would be to get it before a couple of years.
Has anything changed in the last days ?

Arnaud... :confused:

[Nonosse]

And by the way: if a G5 is released in Apple Expo Paris (in 3 weeks), what will happen to the lately released Dual G4, especially considering the Dual 1.25GHz which should be available in still a large couple of weeks (3 to 5 weeks) ?

Arnaud.

[Gaz]

Seems very unlikely that Apple would talk about a processor (IBM's) before we asume it will be announced in October.

I have to agree that that there won't be any BIG product launches. The idea of an iPhone is just silly, what is more logical is that Apple will provide support for this new Sony Erikson phone by allowing that to link with iSync and iCal, now that is a bit more realistic.

Gaz

[myrdred23]

actually, i remember a macworld tokyo that was streamed, it was the one when they released the horrible flowerpower imacs

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by TyleRomeo
anyone know if any new hardware came out last MWP?

Last year it was the post 9/11 release of the free 10.1/9.2.2 update pack. Note: Phil Shiller will also keynote in San Francisco at Seybold Seminars.

Powerbooks are beginning to look a little long in the tooth. Would be a good time to refresh them up to 1 GHz/800 MHz + Jaguar and Bluetooth. I guess they can also say iSynch and iCal are ready for download and installed on all new Macs henceforth.

Seems like the PowerBooks will want a refresh sometime before January. But perhaps Apple is sitting on too many 667/800 mobiles to graduate the line due to slow sales. It just seems like there is a tremendous GAP between dual 1.25 MDD that cost the same as the portable 800. The 1 GHz PowerBook would be a good psychological threshold to reach ASAP for those who must have portability more than speed. Even the cheasiest portable PCs are now running at over a GHz (not that that means their faster). It's a perception thing.

The sooner Apple can move the entire line to the GHz or more level, I think the sooner sales will pick up. This is purely speculation on my part. I could be completely wrong. I don't know where Mac portable sales paces are at all. I would like to see the iBooks become G4 computers ASAP too. They could keep the same speeds and move them to G4 to radically increase their value as ultra-light/compact multimedia production systems.

[oldMac]

Originally posted by BeePotato

...

Ok, it's not very important, but... "MacWorld" would just sound too American for us in France. :)

Does Steve speak French? If not, I'm afraid his keynote may sound too American for the French. :)

I swear, the only place that's more French than France is Quebec!

[RogueLdr]

djniche:

I think you may be right concerning SJ showing off the spankin' new iCal and iSync. Europe would seem to be the perfect showcase for mobile productivity apps due to their more rapid adoption of next-gen cellular standards. (I assume that this is the direction that Europe is heading, due to numerous posts to this effect from those living there.)

I would STILL like to get something new from Apple Expo Paris, but I will prepare myself for a rehash and hope to be pleasantly surprised.


RL

[robUx4]

Do you know if they usually sell computers at this kind of event ?

If they announce new products will they sell it ?

(yes a 12.1" Titanium would be great)