Charlie and the Chocolate Factory trailer

[Jalexster]

http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/charlieandthechocolatefactory.html

Yeah, it's not on the Apple trailers section. Never mind. The film looks freaky. Johnny Depp was a good choice.

[palusami]

i'm still a little confused as to why they felt a need to remake this particular movie (aside from $$ obviously). the original w/gene wilder was perfect. that said, i think burton/depp would do a good job. depp is a great actor and one of my favorites.

[Savage Henry]

i'm still a little confused as to why they felt a need to remake this particular movie (aside from $$ obviously). the original w/gene wilder was perfect. that said, i think burton/depp would do a good job. depp is a great actor and one of my favorites.

Sure Gene Wilder was perfect, giving a less manic and more controlled performance as was his way in the earlier part of his career ... but the rest of the film left a lot to be desired. The kid performances, the sets, the dialogue .. it didn't really capture the vision of Dahl.

I wouldn't mind dipping in for a view of this upon release.

[Laslo Panaflex]

1. It's not a remake, it's a totally new version based more closely on the book, which is far more darker and creapier than the 70's sugar coated, comical farse that even went so far to change the name to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory, when the book is called Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

2. Dahl hated the 70's version of the movie.

3. Here's a direct link to the hires trailer http://mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/bmfroot04/BMFShare04/yahoomovies/14/10140074.mov

4. I for one, can't wait for this movie.

[brap]

http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/charlieandthechocolatefactory.html

Yeah, it's not on the Apple trailers section. Never mind. The film looks freaky. Johnny Depp was a good choice.
Looks like a Tim Burton film. Surreal, dark slapstick humour. I'm kinda getting tired of it, actually. It's a pity Johnny Depp looks so... wussy.

He looks like a queer Alex, from 'A Clockwork Orange'.

[gwuMACaddict]

tim burton is probably my favorite directior and has coached amazing performances from depp in the past... i have a feeling that this movie is going to be really well done

[jayscheuerle]

Personally, I think Tim Burton is an awful director, but a wonderful stylist. He has serious problems telling a coherent story, but he did a fine job with Big Fish.

The looks of his movies are great, but the stories often leave you feeling empty...

[mymemory]

It look very unnormal, Jhonny Deep has so unusual character and I am very curious, why the white glasses remind me so much a Pet Shop Boys video? It is going to be a trippy movie, obviously is not trying to imitate the original one but like some other version. Deep is very good in giving shape to stories that wouldn't have any by themselves.

[wordmunger]

Interesting that people see this as so different from the original. The original, to me, was quite dark. I suppose it could be worth the update if they improve the music (though I hope they keep the Oompa-loompa song), but visually this doesn't look to me to be too much different from the original.

[palusami]

Personally, I think Tim Burton is an awful director, but a wonderful stylist. He has serious problems telling a coherent story, but he did a fine job with Big Fish.

The looks of his movies are great, but the stories often leave you feeling empty...

yeah, can anyone say batman returns?

[Raid]

(though I hope they keep the Oompa-loompa song), but visually this doesn't look to me to be too much different from the original.

Ack thanks wordmunger, now I'm going to have that song in my head all weekend! :o
Oompa Loompa doompadee doo
I've got another puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doompadah dee
If you are wise you'll listen to me
................arghhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Personaly I liked the 70's version, for it's time it was pretty dark (for a kids movie). What other kids movie has a chicken getting it's head cut off in the background (see the boat tour scene). IMHO Gene Wilder was fantastic playing Willy Wonka. It's been ages since I read the book, but I remember thinking it was a fairly good interpretation for kids to see.

I look forward to Tim Burton's version, and while I like Depp (and think he'll do a good job) I think it's about time Burton tried to use other people ... and give his casting director something to do! :rolleyes:

[Mr. Anderson]

Wow, very cool and very weird.

What's with the androgynous Johny Depp?!?

Where are the Umpa-Lumpas?

D

[aricher]

Is it me or does Depp look like Jack White from the White Stripes? Can't wait for this movie - should be cool.

[palusami]

Interesting that people see this as so different from the original. The original, to me, was quite dark. I suppose it could be worth the update if they improve the music (though I hope they keep the Oompa-loompa song), but visually this doesn't look to me to be too much different from the original.

i agree. the original version was very dark and scary to me too. the movie was exceptionally visual and creepy for its time. i looked over the trailer for the latest movie. i realize that its just a small snippet of the new movie but i don't see anything fantastically different over the original.

[Counterfit]

I think Johnny looks like a pimp... :D

And no disrespect to him, I think he's a pretty good actor, but no one will ever ever ever be able to play that role like Gene Wilder. Although the scenery looks a tad better...

[MacFan26]

cool, I'll be excited to see this movie. I'm not a huge fan of Burton's, but I did really like Ed Wood. Johnny Depp is one of my favorite actors, I love how he plays his characters, they're always memorable (at least in my opinion). My mom hated the original, but I liked it. Did anyone happen to read the sequel Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator? That was...interesting, lol :)

[LethalWolfe]

Like all of Burton's films it has a distinct visual style. We shall see. Burton is one of my favorite directors and has only really disappointed me a few times.

I like Willy Wonka (who's bright sets contrasted sharply w/it's dark under tones), but I'm not one of those "don't mess w/a classic" snobs. I look forward to seeing the film.


-Lethal

[Awimoway]

Given the avatar, I think it's fair to say I'm a fan of the original. That being said, I can't imagine anyone else alive today that I'd rather see fill the role than Mr. Depp.

Roald Dahl, a very slow old man, came to my elementary school and signed a copy of 'Charlie' for me in 1986.

I later heard the old Roald was quite the fascist in his day. No idea how true that was or not.

[russed]

quite a bit of the film was done in york where i am! occasionally you would see johnny depp in a really cool bar in town!

i think all the scenes in the factory are done in roundtrees or terrys in york! just thought i would add that!

[mpw]

...I later heard the old Roald was quite the fascist in his day. No idea how true that was or not.

From a couple of interviews I've heard (with his daughter I think) it seemed like he was a nasty piece of work in his private life.

[broken_keyboard]

What's with the androgynous Johny Depp?!?

That's exactly what I was thinking. Wilder's character was an eccentric genius with a dark side, this he/she/it is just creepy weird. There's a big difference.

[mymemory]

The original movie is good, this one is just different.

Yes, Depp is creating a brand new character, if you ask me it looks a bit week for what we may be expecting but lets wait for the movie.

Yes Depp is good for those papers kind of papers where "he is but not".

[kerb]

He looks like a queer Alex, from 'A Clockwork Orange'.

my immediate thought, though i wouldnt of attached such a clumsy adjective.

[apple2991]

Who let these two hacks near the Chocolate Factory story?

I think Depp could be one of the greatest actors in Hollywood right now if he would pick some decent roles. Hey, Johnny, how about something that either isn't a period piece or just completely stupid/weird? Edward Scissorheads was a pretty good movie and all, and you played the part quite well, but can you ever just be in a simple, sincere, CURRENT TIME PERIOD movie?

Especially since he is under the direction of Burton in this film, I hope it will be better than seems likely. Burton has some interesting ideas and visuals, but as was said earlier, can't carry a story to save his life. Additionally, he often makes aspects of his films weird simply for the sake fo being weird--unnecessary and trite.

If they just wanted a weird movie, Burton was a good choice.

If they wanted a weird AND good movie, Wes Anderson or Paul Thomas Anderson would have been a better choice. Any other better directors you guys can think of for this film?

[Counterfit]

cool, I'll be excited to see this movie. I'm not a huge fan of Burton's, but I did really like Ed Wood. Johnny Depp is one of my favorite actors, I love how he plays his characters, they're always memorable (at least in my opinion). My mom hated the original, but I liked it. Did anyone happen to read the sequel Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator? That was...interesting, lol :) Watch out for the K'nids! (Is that how it's spelled? Been so long since I read that book... :()

[MacFan26]

Watch out for the K'nids! (Is that how it's spelled? Been so long since I read that book... :()
haha :) yeah it's something like that, it's been a long time since I've read it too.

[rainman::|:|]

i can't wait for this! i'm a fan of the original, of course, but it's definitely a separate piece of work from the writings... this looks like a much closer adaptation. I guess it comes down to whether you like the Dahl story better, or the semi-close adaptation that you grew up with. I hope this movie does well enough for them to do the Glass Elevator as well, but i doubt it.

I like the Depp Wonka character better already, he has a sort of juvenile-egocentric creepiness that's much better than Wilder's might-be-a-pedophile Wonka performance. And any Burton film is probably going to be great in my eyes...

paul

[LethalWolfe]

Who let these two hacks near the Chocolate Factory story?

I think Depp could be one of the greatest actors in Hollywood right now if he would pick some decent roles. Hey, Johnny, how about something that either isn't a period piece or just completely stupid/weird? Edward Scissorheads was a pretty good movie and all, and you played the part quite well, but can you ever just be in a simple, sincere, CURRENT TIME PERIOD movie?

I think you are confusing talent and popularity/box office draw. Depp doesn't want to be "Tom Hanks huge", and not all big box office draws are good actors. Depp has done roles as "normal" people (just look him up at IMDB).

Especially since he is under the direction of Burton in this film, I hope it will be better than seems likely. Burton has some interesting ideas and visuals, but as was said earlier, can't carry a story to save his life. Additionally, he often makes aspects of his films weird simply for the sake fo being weird--unnecessary and trite.

If they just wanted a weird movie, Burton was a good choice.

If they wanted a weird AND good movie, Wes Anderson or Paul Thomas Anderson would have been a better choice. Any other better directors you guys can think of for this film?

Potatoe, Potato. You prefer Wes Anderson's quirks over Burton's, and some people prefer Burton's over Wes Anderson's. Personally I think Anderson creates a lot of things simplely for the sake of being odd. Whether you think it's unnecessary and trite just depends on what kind of "weird" you like and wht kind of "weird" you don't like.

Lethal

[Xtremehkr]

Trailers can be deceiving. Giving the material the movie is based on, the Director and Johnny Depp, I have high hopes for this movie.

The trailer is aimed at kids and so looks a little quirky.

As far as androgeny goes, Mr Depp has never been very substantial physically. Seems to fit Burtons gothic asthetic though.

[apple2991]

I think you are confusing talent and popularity/box office draw. Depp doesn't want to be "Tom Hanks huge", and not all big box office draws are good actors. Depp has done roles as "normal" people (just look him up at IMDB).

I think you are confusing my reference to a sincere type of movie with Hollywood crap. I never said anything about how much money or what kind of exposure a movie would get, I'm just talking about something that depends upon story, acting, and realistic/real-life characterization as opposed to Ichabod Crane. Blow was good, What's Eating Gilbert Grape was good. Why doesn't Depp do more movies with real emotional appeal? I can only care so much about a poor portrayal of Jack the Ripper. And he doesn't have to be "Tom Hanks huge" to do better movies.

Potatoe, Potato. You prefer Wes Anderson's quirks over Burton's, and some people prefer Burton's over Wes Anderson's. Personally I think Anderson creates a lot of things simplely for the sake of being odd. Whether you think it's unnecessary and trite just depends on what kind of "weird" you like and wht kind of "weird" you don't like.


Erm, kind of, except I'm right.

[LethalWolfe]

I misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying he needs to do more mainstream films to be a better actor. Again, it comes down to taste. I see Depp's acting choices as a pro and you see them as a con.


Erm, kind of, except I'm right.

Of course you are. :rolleyes:
How can anyone, including yourself, be right about something that is completely subjective?


Lethal

[frescies]

I think you are confusing my reference to a sincere type of movie with Hollywood crap. I never said anything about how much money or what kind of exposure a movie would get, I'm just talking about something that depends upon story, acting, and realistic/real-life characterization as opposed to Ichabod Crane. Blow was good, What's Eating Gilbert Grape was good. Why doesn't Depp do more movies with real emotional appeal? I can only care so much about a poor portrayal of Jack the Ripper. And he doesn't have to be "Tom Hanks huge" to do better movies.



Erm, kind of, except I'm right.

Do you have ANY sense of imagination and fantasy? Or are you truly as dry and boring as your posts suggest?

[apple2991]

Do you have ANY sense of imagination and fantasy? Or are you truly as dry and boring as your posts suggest?

The former. I apologize for giving the impression that I am entirely unappreciative of Tim Burton. Some of his work really shines in creativity and many other cinematic aspects--Big Fish, Mars Attacks, Batman, and Pee Wee's Big Adventure come to mind. I also feel, however, that when unchecked, he can go too far and attempt to bring the viewer into a world or plot that is not supported by strong characters and/or dialogue--films such as Planet of the Apes (BLEH), Sleepy Hollow, and to some extent Batman Returns come to mind. It seems as if dealing in entirely imaginary or especially eccentric settings in his films gives him license to go too far and perhaps ignore any sense of realism (necessary for a viewer even in the most imaginative of films) and embellish certain things too much.

I only hope that he doesn't make Charlie and the Chocolate Factory one of those "well this is an imaginary place so who needs relative realism or characerization" films. I only hope.

[iflo]

I love the original film but I cannot wait to see Tim Burton's version. His films are great and I expect this one to live up to the hype...well, I at least hope so!

[GeorgeTheMonkey]

... I also feel, however, that when unchecked, he can go too far and attempt to bring the viewer into a world or plot that is not supported by strong characters and/or dialogue--films such as Planet of the Apes (BLEH), Sleepy Hollow, and to some extent Batman Returns come to mind...
While I'm not trying to disenfranchise your remarks in any way, it's probably important to note that all three of the films you mentioned as Burton's "somewhat lesser" work are all pretty much his biggest studio films. Burton will quite readily (and frequently does) admit that Planet of the Apes was really directed by studio suits and that he had very little control over it; Batman Returns really buckled under the franchise, I would say; and Sleepy Hollow... well, you're right there (although I still like the film). :p

The script a director might have signed up for isn't always necessarily the movie that ends up being made, for many different reasons...

[MacRumorSkeptic]

Johnny Depps Wonka has a creepy Michael Jacksonish look to him. (effeminate, pale skin, long hair, flashy clothes) and I don't like what I see so far with the oompa loompa's. Still, I'm excited about the movie and hope it all turns out well. Gene Wilder set the bar really high, so it will be tough to even approach the original.

[MattG]

I'm looking forward to this movie!

[OnceUGoMac]

I'm sorry, but the trailer made me not want to watch the film. My girlfriend and I waited patiently and excitedly for the trailer to load as we like Burton's work. After seeing the trailer, we were stunned by how attrocious the film looks. It looks like "Planet of the Apes" all over again. Bad.

[Savage Henry]

I'm sorry, but the trailer made me not want to watch the film. My girlfriend and I waited patiently and excitedly for the trailer to load as we like Burton's work. After seeing the trailer, we were stunned by how attrocious the film looks. It looks like "Planet of the Apes" all over again. Bad.
I know what you mean. I think the pace of the Teaser was wrong and proves to be rather randomly cobbled and ultimately unengaging.
But I'm choosing not to judge it on the merits of this effort..... unless the next trailers are just as bad ......