The 19 Inch iMac - January 2003

[esbod]

Having owned a 128K Mac (yes I have gray hair) and multiple macs after that I've seen the quick slide of the "high end" mac to the low end model. Always an "ouch" but at least YOU didn't have the chance to buy a 128K for over $2000. Lucky me!

Now I'm looking at the 17 inch and hearing the 15 inch screen production rumored to be ending. Sound familiar to all you mac pioneers???

So how about some opinions about the iMac line... Looks to me as we are looking at all 17 inch screens within 6 months. More importantly to the iMac 17 buyer today - what are the chances of a 19 iMac in January 2003?

My thoughts by January 2003:
All 17 inch Imacs - speed bumps included, all with super dirves except the lowest end.
A 19 inch "High End" with 1.25 G processor, new USB, second sreen output (not mirroring)

Buy today or wait

[JustAGuy]

Basically, your dreaming. The 17" iMac is already a fantastic consumer grade computer. If you were to increase the screen size, almost double the CPU speed and add 2x monitor support the lines between consumer and pro would blur considerably.

I, for one, don't see the current 17" model changing much at all in the next year (aside from minor potential CPU and/or bus bumps)

[tortus]

****! I would buy one, tear the screen off, and somehow hack it to work with my powermac.

Then, I would sell the sunflower base on ebay.

[rice_web]

I could see an iMac SE selling for about $2,499 with a 19" display, but that might not ever happen.

[macmunch]

But a 17" trough the hole iMac line is very possible !!

look I can buy a 15" TFT 300 € and a 17" 499 € so apple gets this in mass its cheaper for them and so 17" look nut impossible !

But 19" never at least a year or two to see this is any iMac

[rice_web]

But you see, Apple likes to maintain its margins. 17" screens would be tough for Apple in that respect.

[Mr. Anderson]

If Apple goes to a wide format display, across the board, the 19" will only be a wide 17". With the current rebates for the LCDs, I imagine we'll see a whole new bunch of screens soon, maybe even by the end of the year. No more 15" LCD, but a wideformat 17", the 17" LCD will become a 19" wide format. Those will be fantastic monitors, and I'll get at least two when I buy my new machine next year.

D

[Over Achiever]

Originally posted by dukestreet
If Apple goes to a wide format display, across the board, the 19" will only be a wide 17". With the current rebates for the LCDs, I imagine we'll see a whole new bunch of screens soon, maybe even by the end of the year. No more 15" LCD, but a wideformat 17", the 17" LCD will become a 19" wide format. Those will be fantastic monitors, and I'll get at least two when I buy my new machine next year.

D

Thats all possible for the separate LCD moniters...actually very likely. (say october or so?;))

As for the 19" iMac...no way. They found the sweet spot in the 17" widescreen edition...the 19" is "overkill" in my opinion. Buy a pm if you want 19" screen!:D

[rice_web]

They'll probably just let the 17" screen slowly work its way into the iMac line-up. They'll probably keep a 15" screen in the iMac for a while, and slowly work it out of the product line.

[multifinder]

The 15" iMacs are definitely history--they're stopping production of them in October:

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2002/08/22&pages=01&seq=1

My guess is they'll go to 17" for all iMacs, and leave the low end to the eMac. Hopefully Apple will get the price down though--for most people, dropping $2000 on a home computer isn't an option when the economy sucks and a pink slip could be coming any day. It's no wonder their sales are only half what they projected.

[arn]

Originally posted by multifinder
The 15" iMacs are definitely history--they're stopping production of them in October:

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2002/08/22&pages=01&seq=1


no no no!

I hestiate to post these items because people always read into them how they want to read into them...

The move is meant to make room for an upgrade to the 17-inch liquid-crystal display (LCD) monitor, they said, but more importantly, to allow Apple to reduce inventory accumulated from more positive days.


The way I read that is that they have too many 15" imacs around... so they are slowing down production to let demand catch up

arn

[arn]

Originally posted by esbod

So how about some opinions about the iMac line... Looks to me as we are looking at all 17 inch screens within 6 months. More importantly to the iMac 17 buyer today - what are the chances of a 19 iMac in January 2003?


slim to none, imo

arn

[digitalrampage]

If you loved the 128K and its 9" B & W screen, why bitch..

theres a 17" imac, with quadrilions of colours available now.... now ... now!

If you wait, you'll be like me... you wait and then you go, but hey, nows theres a 19", it will only be a couple months until a 22", and so on and so fourth..

Go for the 17" and have some fun.....

DigitalRampage

[digitalrampage]

and to add....

a 19" screen would topel the iMac over i reckon... the 17" WS is good, like a cereal brand

Not to heavy, not to light, it's just right!

[mac15]

Actually I think the 15inch will get discontinued, Its been going around for ages, but I have doubts and don't think apple will drop it

[mmmdreg]

I think the chance of a 19" iMac EVER seeing the light of day is nil...that is unless they have like some type of virtual thing so a smaller mass appears bigger but is actually not or something...but it's a consumers computer..17" is fine as it is...just maybe, the 15" will go one day to be replaced by an all 17" but I kinda doubt that will happen for a while...

[bunton]

I made this up in less tha ntwo minutes

the low end imac will have 15" screen and cd-r drive
Mid range will be super drive 15"
high will be super drive 17"

They should stop the low end super drive is the way to go why not get the bes t drive, why buy old technology, they coulddrop that **** and work on the super drives. Companies cant make a whole lot of things good, Apple should just make all imacs with super drive and only offer two or just the best, only one company i know of is succesfully at everything in the world. And that is Dualstar consumer products the Olsen Twins company nd **** htey make everything from candy to feature films bookks clothes tv shows toys cd's and they make your day hey hey.

[gralem]

That is a very perceptive rumor. An increase of +4 inches in screen size per year. I can't wait till MWSF 2010 and the release of the 47" flat panel iMac!!!

:D

---gralem

[beez7777]

I just got my 17 inch iMac on thursday(8/22), and its great. the screen is a perfect size, so i don't think a 19 inch iMac is ever going to be introduced, but thats my personal opinion:)

[Spock]

19" I don't think so, Apple would have to raise the price by about 600.00$$ and it would be really heavy and awkward. And if a 19" iMac did by some small chance come out someone will post asking about a 23" iMac. I would much rather have a 17" 1.2 GHz iMac.

[multifinder]

Originally posted by arn

The way I read that is that they have too many 15" imacs around... so they are slowing down production to let demand catch up



That's a good point, didn't think of it that way.

Although the more alarming part of that article to me is how complex/expensive building the iMac is, with over 100 steps in assembly. If Apple had stuck with the alleged original design for the iMac 2 (a Mac LC-like box with a flat screen on top of it), their costs would be lower, they could have priced it lower, and my guess is you'd see a lot more of them selling. Instead, the iMac has become the Cube II, with the eMac taking over the iMac's position at the entry-level. I'm biased because I'm not a huge fan of the new iMac's design, but I think if Apple changed the enclosure to make it easier to manufacture and cut the price $200-300, a lot more of them would sell.

[scem0]

A 19" would look really funny. I think the 17" is bordering on funny, but if it was any larger my 1st reaction would be to laugh at it. It is like a child with an unproportionally large head. I wouldnt laugh at big headed kid though :D *cough*cough*.

[MidnightRambler]

19" iMac, 'eh?


If Apple makes it, I'll go into business selling aftermarket guide wires to keep the things from tipping over.

[scem0]

Originally posted by MidnightRambler
19" iMac, 'eh?


If Apple makes it, I'll go into business selling aftermarket guide wires to keep the things from tipping over.

Exactly why I think it would be funny :).

[Raiden]

There is definatly a market for 19in iMacs.

Take me for example. Next year I will be going to college, and I will have to buy a computer. Mac of course! :) Anyway, I will be majoring in computer aided graphic design. I also dont want to spend thousands of dollars on a powermac and then spend even more for a 23in apple monitor. A 19in iMac w/ 1.25Ghz would be the perfect compromise between size, power, resolution, and price.

I would buy one in a hurry!!

[rice_web]

Well, if they could get an iMac with a 19" screen and a weighted base, and sold it for $2499, it could be a big seller. But, that's a big "if".

I personally think that Apple should move the entire line to 17" LCDs, and someday offer a 19" model as an "ultimate" configuration.

[machagheid]

Why not make the screen demountable?
Screen size would then not have to be compromised by the upturned cereal bowl.
I think it could be a backward step forwards out of this design cul de sac.
Form appears to have mislaid function.
Forget the over-emphasis on theme & focus upon manufacturing ease & costs.
I was always led to believe that this was in no small way important in product design!

I still can't understand why they don't develop a modular form of construction, possibly lego-like in it's form, permitting easy customisation, expansion & upgrading.
The roots are seeded in the Xserve.