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Tarlach
Aug 27, 2002, 01:00 AM
OMG, I went to buy a new G4 DP until I heard the fan kick in. It sounded like a vacumm cleaner . The loudest computer I have ever heard. I can't work with that in my office.
What is Apple thinking!



edesignuk
Aug 27, 2002, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Tarlach
OMG, I went to buy a new G4 DP until I heard the fan kick in. It sounded like a vacumm cleaner . The loudest computer I have ever heard. I can't work with that in my office.
What is Apple thinking!
Quit ur bitchin, u want fast machines or not? :rolleyes:
How the hell do u expect to keep those dual 867-1250Mhz cool with no fans!

SilvorX
Aug 27, 2002, 01:15 AM
i heard the xserve is a monster for sound, but i saw one hooked up n turned on (but i dont think a monitor was on tho :S) n it didnt sound that loud :S...atleast compared to one of my old peecees ;)

Tarlach
Aug 27, 2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by verbose101

Quit ur bitchin, u want fast machines or not? :rolleyes:
How the hell do u expect to keep those dual 867-1250Mhz cool with no fans!

So far the tests I have seen don't show it faster. How does all the PeeCeee manufactures make those machines run so much faster with no where near the noise the new machines make.

I want a new machine but that godawful noise I can't work with.

Go hang out with one for a while, when that PS fan kicks in you will think someone has started up a vacumm cleaner.

I'll bitch if I like, it is my money and I'll decide if I like it or not, not you.

Dr. Distortion
Aug 27, 2002, 04:17 AM
There's nothing as irritating as the variable speed fan in my 7600/400 G3! Everytime it needs to do some heavy calculations the fan's rpm goes up, and after a while it goes down again...

Wes
Aug 27, 2002, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by Tarlach
OMG, I went to buy a new G4 DP until I heard the fan kick in. It sounded like a vacumm cleaner . The loudest computer I have ever heard. I can't work with that in my office.
What is Apple thinking!

I have a solution, go to ebay and buy a cube. If you want power you have to make sacrifices.

Mr. Anderson
Aug 27, 2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by W-_-W

I have a solution, go to ebay and buy a cube. If you want power you have to make sacrifices.

ha, very nice.

There really is no way you're going to get speed without noise. And I'm wondering if this current box is a bit overkill for even the current crop of processors - I'm thinking there is something bigger coming down the pipe that will really need the vacu-suck.

Personally, if the machine cranks out a little noise, I'd just put my head phones on and not worry about.

So quick you're whining.

D

alex_ant
Aug 27, 2002, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by verbose101

Quit ur bitchin, u want fast machines or not? :rolleyes:
How the hell do u expect to keep those dual 867-1250Mhz cool with no fans!
Somehow, lots of PCs manage to be both faster and quieter than these dual Macs...

I thought PowerPC was such an efficient processor?

Dr_Floyd
Aug 27, 2002, 09:37 AM
I have one sitting right here and its not making any sound at all (above normal room noise)

The only time the power supply fan is really loud is on start up.

Wes
Aug 27, 2002, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Dr_Floyd
I have one sitting right here and its not making any sound at all (above normal room noise)

The only time the power supply fan is really loud is on start up.

Nice one :D . Mine will be arriving in less than a week. I can't wait, my screen (17inch lcd) is sitting on the desk just crying out for the cpu.

Wes
Aug 27, 2002, 09:56 AM
Hey alex, isn't about time you got a 'tar?

Backtothemac
Aug 27, 2002, 09:57 AM
Obviously this person is experienced the world of PC's otherwise their first two posts would not be knocking something that we have been waiting a long time for.

Yes, PC's are loud too. PowerMac's are loud. Kick on iTunes and blast some music over a nice set of H/K's and boom. Problem solved. Or, just buy an iMac, or PowerBook.

Bart
Aug 27, 2002, 10:01 AM
You people keep on telling that many PC's are a lot faster and produce less noice.
Now tel me where on the internet can I compare PC's with Macs, when it comes to speed. Where on the www can I find the exact speed of any PC in Gigaflops?
At the office I use a new 2.5 Ghz Pentium 4. And yes it's fast.
But sometimes it is harder to use, and that makes it slower in the end.
I do think that the gap between PC and Mac is closing more and more.
And maybe some day the mac will not be worth the extra money, you have to pay for it.

Gus
Aug 27, 2002, 10:05 AM
There is NO wasy that these are louder then PC fans. Classes started yesterday, and when I went into the school's Dell Lab, it sounded like the deck of an aircraft carrier in there. Next door in the Apple Lab, there were rows of pretty little PowerMacs (new dual 1 Gig machines) purring away like a litter of kittens. Or maybe that was Jaguar purring. :D

Gus

Wes
Aug 27, 2002, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Gus
There is NO wasy that these are louder then PC fans. Classes started yesterday, and when I went into the school's Dell Lab, it sounded like the deck of an aircraft carrier in there. Next door in the Apple Lab, there were rows of pretty little PowerMacs (new dual 1 Gig machines) purring away like a litter of kittens. Or maybe that was Jaguar purring. :D

Gus

You lucky ...... uh person! My school only has emacs and imacs and a few quicksilvers! But then again, there aren't any Dells in the building, so I guess it's work the sacrifice.

javadev
Aug 27, 2002, 10:10 AM
I picked up a dual-867 this weekend, and it is fairly quiet until the extra fan kicks in... which seems to not happen so much when the room is cold... so I guess if the noise bugs ya, crank up the AC!

-- Rob

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Obviously this person is experienced the world of PC's otherwise their first two posts would not be knocking something that we have been waiting a long time for.

Yes, PC's are loud too. PowerMac's are loud. Kick on iTunes and blast some music over a nice set of H/K's and boom. Problem solved. Or, just buy an iMac, or PowerBook.

Wes
Aug 27, 2002, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by javadev
I picked up a dual-867 this weekend, and it is fairly quiet until the extra fan kicks in... which seems to not happen so much when the room is cold... so I guess if the noise bugs ya, crank up the AC!

-- Rob



I lived in Saudi Arabia, and the AC's were about 10x louder than any computer in existence, and probably most aircraft carriers.

aromac
Aug 27, 2002, 10:21 AM
Just to let you know. The fan on my machine is also HELLA DAMN LOUD!!! ..however, ONLY when running on 0s9. On osx, the machine is virtuallly silent.

Wes
Aug 27, 2002, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by aromac
Just to let you know. The fan on my machine is also HELLA DAMN LOUD!!! ..however, ONLY when running on 0s9. On osx, the machine is virtuallly silent.

I can see it now, "New Dual Powermacs, Fans now optimised for OS X."

tjwett
Aug 27, 2002, 10:46 AM
indeed, you can't get serious power these days without a little noise. god bless the Cube. wish i still had mine. the only problem i've had with PM noise is in the studio. you're trying to record a voice over or acoustic instrument and BOOM!, the fans kick in and ruin the take. granted, if i had more money i wouldn't have to record everything in virtually the same space but i can't afford to build any booths right now. so for now, the machine is in another room. i'm praying for a new Cube release but i think even it would have to have a fan in this day and age.

Spike Spiegel
Aug 27, 2002, 11:03 AM
hey, do you remember when 'hella' wasnt a word.....those were good times. As long as my new Dual gig with 128MB Gefroce 4 Ti performs better than my 733 with Geforce2MX witch it almost certainly will, i will be happy. On the topic of noise, floyd, are you sure your machine isnt off?

gopher
Aug 27, 2002, 12:03 PM
My Wallstreet sounded like a DC-9 on takeoff whenever I had an unballanced CD in the drive. Put in a non-labelled CD, you hardly new it was in the drive except for the vibration you felt under your fingers.

zanuzan
Aug 27, 2002, 12:36 PM
Well my new dual 1 gig at work is so annoying we are all laughing about it. The louder fan turns on every 3 minutes and disturbs us all.

It is fine when this other fan doesn't kick in. I am in an AC environment too. What gives?

tjwett
Aug 27, 2002, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by weezerophile
hey, do you remember when 'hella' wasnt a word.....those were good times.

lol!

Wes
Aug 27, 2002, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by tjwett


lol!

Let's all use this thread as a way to boost our post counts! J/K tjwett.

Spike Spiegel
Aug 27, 2002, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by W-_-W


Let's all use this thread as a way to boost our post counts! J/K tjwett.

heh, agreed

tjwett
Aug 27, 2002, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by W-_-W


Let's all use this thread as a way to boost our post counts! J/K tjwett.

ha ha. very funny. that's 302 baby. hella cool! ;)

Multimedia
Aug 27, 2002, 08:07 PM
Sounds like fan speed management software might be able to keep that big fan from needing to crankup to the max every few minutes if someone's software solution told it to blow slowly all the time instead of freaking out every few minutes due to no blowing in between spurts.

Looks like an Apple .1 update could include this fix Ñ or a third party freeware item.

gopher
Aug 28, 2002, 07:44 AM
Energy saver under Jaguar has a More Options button. Try making it so that only the display goes to sleep. Could be the cause of the problem if it tries to make the processor go to sleep as well.

djmcave
Aug 28, 2002, 08:34 AM
Maybe Apple should start thinking on water cooling or something

vniow
Aug 29, 2002, 02:12 PM
Here's (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/g4_mirrored_drive_doors/noise_reduction/g4_ddr_noise_reduction.html) a guy that successfully reduced the power supply fan noise. He says that the big one by the heatsink still sound like a dustbuster, but he's looking into replacing that one too.:)

Wes
Aug 29, 2002, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by djmcave
Maybe Apple should start thinking on water cooling or something

Knowing Apple they would have to do something revolutionary, so all for dry ice or liquid nitrogen raise your hands.

jadam
Aug 29, 2002, 03:05 PM
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jadam
Aug 29, 2002, 03:08 PM
hehe woiops this it it :D

oldMac
Aug 29, 2002, 03:12 PM
It would be nice if Apple didn't make these so loud, but I'm sure that it's nothing a little modification can't fix.

iJon
Aug 29, 2002, 03:42 PM
i have an xserve and one of the new ddr powermacs. the xserve is amazingly loud. it has those leaf blower type heatsinks on both processors.it was so loud we had to move it to another room in our business, couldnt hear customers talking to us,lol. the powermacs seem normal. it kicks in pretty high with noise right when it turns on though. one thing that doesnt make sense is that my powerbook/500 g3 with 512mgs of ram boots up slightly faster than my dual 1ghz ddr with 256ram, maybe it is the ram but i thought the more ram you had the longer it took to start up, any info would be of any help. thanks.

iJon