decision time

[job]

yea..

i've got to make a choice :

1. a BTO order dual-867 tower with an 80GB HD and a Radeon 9000

or this :

[jelloshotsrule]

dual 867


i'm guessing the decision will be harder for you though.... good luck

[job]

it's a new 2002 vespa.

due to a new law in texas, i can't get my license until late next year.

my dad offered to buy a vespa for me, since the only requirements for the license is that you are over 15 years of age.

it costs 2900 dollars. because of the moped laws, it is limited to a 50cc engine. top speed is close to 50 mph.

i'll only be using this to get around the suburbia i live in, so i won't be in any danger of being smashed by huge suvs.

which one do you guys think i should go for? :)

[Mr. Anderson]

in a year you get your license and you're going to be wanting to run around on a vespa?

in a year you'll still have a dual 867 and loving it?

hmm, its a personal pref - mobility now or a computer - personaly my choice would be my bike and the computer - no vespa and get excercise instead of cruising around.

But remember, I'm 37 and I might be out of touch when it comes to whats *in* for kids.....

D

[Durandal7]

Would you be getting access to a full vehicle when you get your license?

I would say the computer, but if you are forced to get the Vespa for transportation for a couple years then buy that.

Go with the Tower.

[job]

its not just the licence that is an issue here.

atm my beetle is not ready to be driven.

i will still have a lot of work to do on it, it will be at least 6 months from the end of this year (est.) before it is ready for daily use.

otherwise, i have no transportation of my own and my parents do not have the time to take me where i need to go.

however, i am also in bad need of a new computer. my old mac died and ive been stuck using 9.2 for almost 5 months now.

i am leaning towards the vespa, simply because i could probably pay for a new tower myself around january of next year.

in my case, mobility is key; i live in a very quiet suburban area. i would probably still use the vespa even after i got my full license.

but that tower sure is nice.... :D

oh duke, dont worry, you're not "out of touch" :D

[Durandal7]

Get the Vespa if you will be able to get a Tower by January.

Damn duke, 37?! :eek: Have you had a mid-life crisis yet? ;) :cool:

[job]

Originally posted by asurace
Get the Vespa if you will be able to get a Tower by January.


and i won't have to pay for the vespa either...

but i will pay for the tower myself.

duke : i now know why jello calls you "old geezer" j/k ;) :D :p

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by hitman
duke : i now know why jello calls you "old geezer" j/k ;) :D :p

i do? weird


bitter old man's more like it.


you don't have to pay for the vespa yourself? but you would for the tower...?

so why not both?

[teabgs]

get the tower....seriously, get it and then fix your car FAST....ride a bike for a few months....I waited too long to upgrade my computer and am now stuck with the 6500 until the dual 1.25 ships....do the tower man....trust me

[job]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

you don't have to pay for the vespa yourself? but you would for the tower...?

so why not both?

my dad does not want me to spend the money on the tower. he is only willing to pay for the vespa.

my dad and i had a deal a while back that if i invested or started an ira with my money, he would purchase a tower for me.

i can see where he is coming from, especially if i started a roth ira; it would compound and i would not have to worry about retirement (that much.)

however, this was before the transportation issue came up.

[jelloshotsrule]

get the vespa and get whatever comes out next in towers.... it's possible that it will be way better than the latest upgrade... of course, that might not happen. but it might

what if he buys the vespa, you invest, then he buys the powermac? or would him buying the vespa take the place of the powermac?....

[job]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

or would him buying the vespa take the place of the powermac?....

yes, the vespa would take the place of the power mac.

i would still have the money and i would probably invest it then; however, the tower deal would be scratched.

[big]

>But remember, I'm 37 and I might be out of touch when it comes to whats *in* for kids.....

WOAH- do you have your epitath written yet?

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by hitman
yes, the vespa would take the place of the power mac.

i would still have the money and i would probably invest it then; however, the tower deal would be scratched.

then i say do what teabgs said.

deal with riding a bike for a while and hurry up on the beetle.

and get the mac.

unless of course you really think they'll drop the power4 on us in the winter....... eh? eh?

[job]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
unless of course you really think they'll drop the power4 on us in the winter....... eh? eh?

heh. sure. why not. :D

and of course it will come in quad models too...

[bousozoku]

I have always wanted a Vespa scooter. It's one of those things in those (now) old Italian movies that's so wonderful. Mopeds are okay, but a Vespa scooter is so much more. Of course, they're also expensive and cantankerous.

Will you eschew the car and keep the scooter even after you can get a license? If you can truly say that you'll be able to live without the car after your friends have their licenses and cars and will feel no burning need, get the Vespa (and let me ride it.)

Otherwise, it's dual 867s for you. :)

[G4scott]

Ugh... I'm staying away from mopeds for quite a while...

Just yesterday (thursday), I heard a car hit two kids on a moped/motorized scooter... The sound was sickening... Fortunately, the kids are ok, and the car that hit them was going 10mph under the speed limit. Of course, the kids were at fault because they ran a light...

I'd say go for the tower... But if you do go for the moped, just be careful ;)

[SilvorX]

i got my licence over half a year ago (a few weeks b4 graduated licencing was to be introduced here (n i wouldnt have been affected anyways) but now u have to be 17.5 to get your full licence here...

just get the pmac ;)

[Rajj]

Get a TiBook!!!:D ;) :p

[3rdpath]

get the dual...

i think the vespa is cool but i wouldn't ride one on a public street. all you need is some suburban-driving-cell-phone-yakking-soccer-mom to run a light and...

now if you lived in rome instead of near houston...i'd say get the vespa.

make friends with someone who has a car-chip in for gas-and get your bug restored.

[teabgs]

Originally posted by 3rdpath
get the dual...

i think the vespa is cool but i wouldn't ride one on a public street. all you need is some suburban-driving-cell-phone-yakking-soccer-mom to run a light and...

now if you lived in rome instead of near houston...i'd say get the vespa.

make friends with someone who has a card-chip in for gas-and get your bug restored.

LISTEN TO THIS GUY....he knows what he's saying...


trust me....I was the guy that got a car and drove all of his friends around. :rolleyes: seriously...theres always one...I was ther first to get my own car and then I was the choffeur...you gotta have a friend who has or will have a car....fix the bug quickly (dont sleep a couple nights if you have to) and get the Mac.

I'm selling my car now, TO HELP PAY FOR MY NEW TOWER....see where priorities are man? ;)

[Rajj]

"Cell phone-yaking-soccer mom!!"

Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!
That's funny:D :D

You are telling the truth though!!

The traffic is super crazy here in Las Vegas:mad:

It is starting to look like L.A.:mad:

[job]

Originally posted by teabgs

I'm selling my car now, TO HELP PAY FOR MY NEW TOWER....see where priorities are man? ;)

heh. a dual 1.25Ghz? ;)

i could probably have the bug drivable in two months.

"drivable" means that it is barely street legal....parts falling off on the road...what? :D

[Backtothemac]

There really is no good advice that we can give not knowing your situation. Do you need the transportaion? Do you need the Tower? Would an iMac be better for you? Give us some more info and we can make a better suggestion.

[jelloshotsrule]

it should say something that back-dawg didn't just say "get the tower, i'll give you a good deal..."

ha

he raises a good point. none of us know just how important either of these things are to you.

[Backtothemac]

Na, I hit him with that in a PM ;)

[job]

computer situation :

my old slot loading imac died a horrible death. i am currently stuck using my brothers.

i want a tower. expansion will be key when i go to college. an imac is nice, however upgrades would be limited (and to be honest, im tired of the all-in-one concept)

my plan was to bto a 867 tower with an 80GB HD and a radeon 9000.

i use my computer for a variety of things. it was at the top of my priorities until the issue with transportation came up.

word of note : i have not used X since early May.

transportation situation :

i have many after school sports and activities that i have to attend.

however my parents cannot take me due to other commitments and time constraints.

i will be able to get my license next year (around feb.)

currently i have a 1974 beetle that is a work in progress. and i do mean work in progress.

i could have it drivable in two months. i could have it looking respectable by the end of the year.

however i would be unable to drive anywhere by myself until next year.

note : my friends do currently drive me around to my activities when my parents cannot.

the vespa would be nice, however, it is not a must.

financial situation :

i had a deal with my dad; i invest (or start a roth ira) and he purchases something that is equal to the dollar value of my investment (or ira.)

when i start an ira or invest, i can either choose the vespa or the tower.

currently i have about 1200 in the bank after two months of working odd jobs over the summer.

personal opinion :

after fixing the fuel line/system on the beetle last night (i have to order a new fuel pump for it. it will cost 250 dollars.) i think i will be able to have it up and running very soon indeed.

although the vespa would be nice, it is also a bit rushed. if i purchase the tower within the next two months or so, the beetle will be drivable.

since i started this thread i have also talked to my dad. he seems more willing to buy the tower, as he expressed his concern about my safety on the road.

perhaps the tower would be the better choice.

[3rdpath]

Originally posted by hitman
"drivable" means that it is barely street legal....parts falling off on the road...what? :D

sounds like your normal bug.....i had a 1970 'vert that was always dropping something...always leaking oil...but man was it fun. some professor at SFASU now has it...wish i hadn't sold it.:(

[job]

Originally posted by 3rdpath

sounds like your normal bug.....i had a 1970 'vert that was always dropping something...always leaking oil...but man was it fun. some professor at SFASU now has it...wish i hadn't sold it.:(

yea that what i like about them.

just like a mac, you can tinker with every aspect of the car.

personally i don't mind it at all. i think it is quite fun to constantly mess with the car.

mine is a '74 red 'vert with a white vinyl top.

[3rdpath]

a roth IRA at your age is a fantastic idea...give your dad a hug...

[job]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Na, I hit him with that in a PM ;)

yea... :D

would it be possible for me to stick a radeon 9000 in there as well?

[Backtothemac]

That price that I gave you had the Radeon in it.
+ 256MB Ram for free.

Let me know.
B2TM

[jelloshotsrule]

did he give you the "don't quote this price anywhere!" spiel? haha

ahh. back-dawg's hooking us up. it's about time these 3000 posts pay off... ha

[job]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
That price that I gave you had the Radeon in it.
+ 256MB Ram for free.

Let me know.
B2TM

it would probably be later this year before i acutally purchase it.

i will definately keep the offer in mind.

will show my dad...

[teabgs]

Originally posted by hitman


heh. a dual 1.25Ghz? ;)

i could probably have the bug drivable in two months.

"drivable" means that it is barely street legal....parts falling off on the road...what? :D


hehe...yeah howd you guess? :rolleyes:


BackDawg hooked me up with a [b]sweet[b] deal.....as well as hooking up my gf with a good deal on her recent iBook purchase (which Im posting from now).

it sounds like the Tower is looking better and better eh?

PLus BackDawg prolly gave you a pretty good quote....no tax too..

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by teabgs



hehe...yeah howd you guess? :rolleyes:


BackDawg hooked me up with a [b]sweet[b] deal.....as well as hooking up my gf with a good deal on her recent iBook purchase (which Im posting from now).

it sounds like the Tower is looking better and better eh?

PLus BackDawg prolly gave you a pretty good quote....no tax too..

I just PMed him about giving me a deal on an iBook. Of course it'll be a few months until I get enough money and I want to wait for the next revision. Seems like advertising here was a good move ,eh.

[teabgs]

Originally posted by asurace


I just PMed him about giving me a deal on an iBook. Of course it'll be a few months until I get enough money and I want to wait for the next revision. Seems like advertising here was a good move ,eh.

He'll hook you up...and work with you to get the best computer for the best price for your personal needs

*Holds up a framed pic of B2TM Smiling*

seriously though....this iBook is wonderful and at a GREAT price.

We're (as in me FOR my gf) are installing Jag tonight.....

*tee hee*


:D :D

[Durandal7]

I'm pretty sure the iBook is the best for my needs. I need a small mobile Mac that is faster then my G3 300 tower. That and it needs to be in the $1200 range. I would prefer a TiBook but my budget doesn't allow it. That is unless B2TM felt like losing $1000 to give me a TiBook for around $1200 ;)

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by asurace
I'm pretty sure the iBook is the best for my needs. I need a small mobile Mac that is faster then my G3 300 tower. That and it needs to be in the $1200 range. I would prefer a TiBook but my budget doesn't allow it. That is unless B2TM felt like losing $1000 to give me a TiBook for around $1200 ;)

If I could do that I would have 40 or so my self ;)

Thanks for the attention and the compliment on the site in the PM. Wait till you see the new one that is going to debut soon.

And tea, thanks for the props.

[teabgs]

Originally posted by Backtothemac


If I could do that I would have 40 or so my self ;)

Thanks for the attention and the compliment on the site in the PM. Wait till you see the new one that is going to debut soon.

And tea, thanks for the props.

the new what that's going to debut? I'm so confused... :confused:


And no prob on the props....you deserve it for all your hard work and hook-ups!

I'm looking forward to the iPod, applecare, and monitor that should be here next week...:D

Backtothemac <-------This dude, hooks you up!

[Backtothemac]

I kept the AppleCare and memory. I will put them in the box with her when she gets in.

;)

[teabgs]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
I kept the AppleCare and memory. I will put them in the box with her when she gets in.

;)


ah, ok....then I look forward to the monitor and iPod next week !!!



Also, don't put that memory in her....That's my business :D

I'll be the first to touch her and open her up thank you very much :eek: :p ;) :cool:

oh man....I'm so glad I ordered that extra memory from you (GOOD PRICE)....I origionally planned to get the extra gig in a few months but hey....Screw it, I want that power now...and I love doing business with ya..

[Backtothemac]

Thanks tea. Sorry about the screw up on the shipping. That was our fault, and it won't happen again. Yea, I am just going to drop the memory and the AppleCare in the box, and send her on her way.

;)

[job]

i was talking with my dad today and my mom overheard the words "vespa" and "ride to school etc."

she went ape****. :rolleyes:

looks like it's going to be the tower.

i'll probably buy it later this year or early next year. (i.e. december/january)

i'll keep your offer in mind, b2tm. :)

[teabgs]

Originally posted by hitman
i was talking with my dad today and my mom overheard the words "vespa" and "ride to school etc."

she went ape****. :rolleyes:

looks like it's going to be the tower.

i'll probably buy it later this year or early next year. (i.e. december/january)

i'll keep your offer in mind, b2tm. :)

playin hard to get? trying to lower the price EVEN MORE.....???? If that's even possible :rolleyes:

[Durandal7]

Well, I'll probably buy from B2TM. The other possibilities are:
1. I buy used
2. I get forced to consign my tower and buy from the local store to get the money together
3. I don't buy one at all

We'll see what happens...
And no, I'm not trying to talk B2TM down on prices :p

[job]

Originally posted by teabgs


playin hard to get? trying to lower the price EVEN MORE.....???? If that's even possible :rolleyes:

no.

i'll take b2tm's offer when i'm ready to buy.

i have no complaints with his extremely generous offer.

my intentions were/are not to try to lower the price any further.

his quoted price is fine.

i just have to wait a few more months to save up enough.

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by hitman
i was talking with my dad today and my mom overheard the words "vespa" and "ride to school etc."

she went ape****. :rolleyes:


I feel your pain, I had a similar experience. On the plus side a new tower isn't that bad. :D

[teabgs]

Originally posted by hitman


no.

i'll take b2tm's offer when i'm ready to buy.

i have no complaints with his extremely generous offer.

my intentions were/are not to try to lower the price any further.

his quoted price is fine.

i just have to wait a few more months to save up enough.

dude, I was just messin with you....dont take it seriously...;)

[job]

Originally posted by teabgs


dude, I was just messin with you....dont take it seriously...;)

ah, sorry. :)

i had just written that post after *talking* with my mom.

not exactly the best time to respond to a post.. ;)

it's all good...

[teabgs]

Originally posted by hitman


ah, sorry. :)

i had just written that post after *talking* with my mom.

not exactly the best time to respond to a post.. ;)

it's all good...

ha! I hear that...no one should post after *talking* to their mom...

Its all good homes

[job]

so yea..

the vespa is out of the picture.

i'm working overtime on my beetle...just ordered some parts online.

i should have enough to order the tower by the end of the year. or at least by mwsf. :)

[teabgs]

awesome, you'll be glad once the tower gets there ;)

[peterjhill]

Too bad about the Vespa... Look at this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1853964485
http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_e47283438e42fc8bb2e32bb6b9243fae/i-1.JPG

It's pretty sweet looking, and going for $2,450.

I am sure that you will enjoy the mac, though.

[job]

wow, that's pretty nice.

thats one of the old classic vespas. :)

the new ones look pretty good too. :D

[TheAnswer]

Fix up the bug and buy the tower now (but at least get the Dual Gig with the faster bus)...

...then apply to colleges in "college towns" where you don't need a car...

...sell the Bug to some kid in the same situation you're in now...and use the money to get the new top of the line Vespa (the one that goes over 60 Mph)...and use the rest to upgrade the tower...

As cool as classic bugs are to you now and they were to some of my friends in high school, not one of my friends kept that car much past the first year of college...

[job]

Originally posted by TheAnswer

As cool as classic bugs are to you now and they were to some of my friends in high school, not one of my friends kept that car much past the first year of college...

my dad's kept his (now mine) ever since he recieved it as a gift in the 70s from his grandparents while starting college.. ;) :D