Mac mini Now Shipping

[MacRumors]

MacRumors has received reader reports that the first wave of Mac minis has already begun shipping. The new machine, unveiled by Steve Jobs at MWSF 05, measures 6.5" wide x 6.5" deep x 2" tall, and is expected for general availability on January 22.

[_bnkr612]

Oh goody, me mum's new machine will be here soon... Now, will the Mini have an adapter for the Mini Cooper?

[SFNE Freak]

Well, standard shipping orders have to be there by Friday right? I would expect them to have started shipping.

[noel4r]

Wow, they're shipping early. Very un-Apple like. I read today that the iPod Shuffle has a 4 week wait.

[hcopp]

I hope when i order mine tomorrow it goes out sooner than 3-4 weeks

[qubex]

I wonder how many of those are bog-standard units and how many are BTOs. I plan to buy a 1.42GHz/80GB model with SuperDrive, AirportExtreme and Bluetooth. I look forward to hearing other people's experiences with the machines.

[mattmack]

Rock on I can't wait to try one out
:D

[mlrproducts]

Apple made me mad. I ordered within 30 mins of the store coming back up (BTO, Superdrive and BT). I called the NEXT DAY to up it to 512RAM. The genious on the phone CANCELLED my previous order (due to arrive on Jan 22) and entered a whole new one, with the upped memory. Now it says its shipping on or before Feb 10th...

GRR....

[Laurent]

I have ordered a BTO version with a French OS; I guess they won't ship it that soon...

[LinuxGigolo]

I wonder how many of those are bog-standard units and how many are BTOs. I plan to buy a 1.42GHz/80GB model with SuperDrive, AirportExtreme and Bluetooth. I look forward to hearing other people's experiences with the machines.

Mine is BTO and it shipped earlier today. 512mb/80gb/AE/BT/1.25GHz

[3Memos]

Mine is BTO and it shipped earlier today. 512mb/80gb/AE/BT/1.25GHz

You should have just went with the 1.42Ghz version, and saved a couple of dollars.

[MrMacMan]

Well that shipped pretty fast since release.

Good Job Apple.

:D

[macridah]

Shipping before a release date ... bizarro apple world. But it is making people notice ... 21 positves and 0 negatives

[sjpetry]

Going to the Apple Store tomorrow. I check them out. ;)

[mattmack]

Shipping before a release date ... bizarro apple world. But it is making people notice ... 21 positves and 0 negativesAs soon as I see it in the stores then I will believe it ;)

[3Memos]

Gonna check my local reseller if they'll have it in stock on the 22nd.

[SiliconAddict]

Congrats to those who got em. Me? The wait continues til the release of Tiger. There is something just yummy about Tiger and a Mini. :D Now if only Apple would release their 17" G5 PowerBook. ;) :D


Patience may be a virtue. Its also a PITA. :p

[TimDaddy]

Apple made me mad. I ordered within 30 mins of the store coming back up (BTO, Superdrive and BT). I called the NEXT DAY to up it to 512RAM. The genious on the phone CANCELLED my previous order (due to arrive on Jan 22) and entered a whole new one, with the upped memory. Now it says its shipping on or before Feb 10th...

GRR....

Well, at least now we know who the genios, err, genius is who rated this as negative! ;) jk

This is very fast shipping for a new Apple product. The end is nigh!

[LinuxGigolo]

You should have just went with the 1.42Ghz version, and saved a couple of dollars.

It would have been about $55 more. $55 isn't worth it for the 0.17 GHz difference.

[sord]

Ooo goody! I hope this means iWork is now shipping! (I have no need for a Mac Mini)

UPDATE: Nevermind, Order status shows it as still Open and shipping on or before Jan. 21st

[Daveway]

Have people actually received them today are did they just ship today?

[outerspaceapple]

Yippe!

seriously though, what kind of people vote negative?!

[swissmann]

Good to see that they are on time/early. It will be interesting to see how supply and demand work out here.

[fatbarstard]

Looks like the Mac lunch box is shipping nicely along now... good to see volume ready so soon after an announcement rather than the enternal wait... in our part of the globe - ie too small to notice is generally takes a couple of months for product to get here...

Just wish Apple would hurry up and finish Tiger... getting sick of waiting for the new thingamagiggs.... :mad:

[Dr. Dastardly]

Yippe!

seriously though, what kind of people vote negative?!
The ones who didnt buy one

[JGowan]

Wow, they're shipping early. Very un-Apple like. I read today that the iPod Shuffle has a 4 week wait.Well... Apple sold 2,000 units of the Shuffle. They couldn't just make 50,000 and HOPE that people would go for them. Having 2,000 ready to go was a pretty happy medium in my opinion.

[Alexander]

Well... Apple sold 2,000 units of the Shuffle. They couldn't just make 50,000 and HOPE that people would go for them. Having 2,000 ready to go was a pretty happy medium in my opinion.

Er, you're off by a factor of ten or so. I heard that there were 20,000 available at the SF Apple Store on release day, sold out within hours, and they're scheduled to manufacture 500,000 a month. I'm sure hundreds of thousands are preordered at this point.

[mhrob]

I have ordered a BTO version with a French OS; I guess they won't ship it that soon...

Just go into system prefs and set the perferred language to French... All your Apple apps will speak French just by turning that pref on. I could never understand people ordering a French version in America... Je parle de nous, évidemment.

The only benefit you will have will the French print on the box, the small highly illustrated manual (it is real tiny) and a delay.

On the other hand someone has to ask for a French box, but you realize you get the system that is sold in France, thus the delay.

c'est beaucoup plus rapide de prendre ce qui vient. Mac OS X est un système multilingue.

[areyouwishing]

What great news. Wish I would have ordered on the 11th.

[mcmav37]

I heard that there were 20,000 available at the SF Apple Store on release day, sold out within hours, and they're scheduled to manufacture 500,000 a month. I'm sure hundreds of thousands are preordered at this point.

Actually, that report was later corrected to the 2000 figure quoted here. That said, I hope Apple gets up to production capacity ASAP to meet demand very quickly.

[aswitcher]

Well this is good. We should have some user reports on iLife 05' soon.

[nagromme]

I'm looking forward to the Mac Mini details that will emerge when real people actually GET them. Are they cheaply made? Poorly packaged? Difficult to set up? OK, probably not.... ;) And what will first-time Mac owners' impressions be? (I hope they went for 512 MB...)


Wow, they're shipping early. Very un-Apple like. I read today that the iPod Shuffle has a 4 week wait.
That's the backorder that built up, but the iPod Shuffle DOES already exist--people have them. What quantities exist? THAT is the big question :)


Ooo goody! I hope this means iWork is now shipping! (I have no need for a Mac Mini)

UPDATE: Nevermind, Order status shows it as still Open and shipping on or before Jan. 21st
Ditto for iLife 05. Come on, don't keep me waiting :)

[jkelling]

Anyone notice that they are being shipped from China?
Shenzhen China to be exact. Also, unlike with other services, the tracking on Fedex doesn't give a projected delivery date.

Hopefully we all have ours by Friday - I got an 1.42 mini with a SuperDrive - my first Real Mac (although I have a blueberry iMac - but it runs OSX pretty poorly) :)

[dguisinger]

Apple made me mad. I ordered within 30 mins of the store coming back up (BTO, Superdrive and BT). I called the NEXT DAY to up it to 512RAM. The genious on the phone CANCELLED my previous order (due to arrive on Jan 22) and entered a whole new one, with the upped memory. Now it says its shipping on or before Feb 10th...

GRR....


I can understand you are frustrated, but but your delay more or less has to do with the fact that when you change BTOs, you need to cancel the order. When Apple builds machines they don't do them in the order they are received, they do them in identical batches. You gave up your slot on the BTO SD+BT build, and other people had already taken the timeslots for the BTO SD+BT+512 builds. These machines are built like this for a reason; its alot easier to do 1000 identical machines in a row, when items such as drives or ram are hand inserted, because there is less chance that you get the wrong configuration. So suck it up, face the fact that it was your screwup, and you should have ordered memory from Crucial or Kingston instead of having them change your order after the BTO order was in the system. You would have saved time and probably money as well. You know, I just don't get it... Apple is shipping early, they dont have a 3 month wait, and you are upset at them because you changed your mind. Anyone would remember from the iMac G4 (I bought one a few hours after the keynote) how it was over a month before the first unit shipped, and they were backordered forever. And of course the Mini is going to be much more popular; I'd say be happy you are still within the first 100,000 units, or you'd really be waiting.

[nylon]

If anyone is interested I have posted a video on how to disassemble a Mac mini in order to add ram etc. See this thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=105812

[dguisinger]

Anyone notice that they are being shipped from China?
Shenzhen China to be exact. Also, unlike with other services, the tracking on Fedex doesn't give a projected delivery date.

Hopefully we all have ours by Friday - I got an 1.42 mini with a SuperDrive - my first Real Mac (although I have a blueberry iMac - but it runs OSX pretty poorly) :)


Thats how it was when the first G4 iMacs shipped; they came from Tiawan (*sp). Of course, mine was headed towards customs in Alaska, I beleive it was identified as the second main shipment from Apple. and then all of a sudden it got a 1-day delay by turning around mid-ocean and going back to Japan. After calling Fedex and asking what was going on, they said it was a medical emergency (I doubt there are too many people on the plane, so there arent too many choices there). You can imagine how frustrating that was after waiting a month for it to ship and seeing it go the wrong direction around the world :)

[MmmPancakes]

I ordered on the 12th at about 8pm CST. My order is to go out "on or before 2/11" :(

I went with 1.25/40/combo/512. I'm a proud switcher (at least tester) and a first time poster. How do you think the Mini compare to my current notebook: Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 2400 MHz 400MHz external bus 512MB? Any feedback would be welcome.

[dguisinger]

If anyone is interested I have posted a video on how to disassemble a Mac mini in order to add ram etc. See this thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=105812


Neat video. I see the apple logo on there, but it doesn't look like its apple produced. Did you make the video? If so, where'd you get the Mac Mini to take apart? I'm sure they wouldnt let you do that at MacWorld....

[dguisinger]

I ordered on the 12th at about 8pm CST. My order is to go out "on or before 2/11" :(

I went with 1.25/40/combo/512. I'm a proud switcher (at least tester) and a first time poster. How do you think the Mini compare to my current notebook: Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 2400 MHz 400MHz external bus 512MB? Any feedback would be welcome.


Remember, On or Before is On or Before :) So don't feel too bad yet; if its 2/7 you can begin to be upset for waiting a bit. But in reality, Apple, like Dell and everyone else, tries to make a worse case scenario and tries to ship before that date.

I would have to think that will be a bit slower. I've got a Pentium M, which smokes the desktop Pentium 4. If you have the Pentium M in your notebook, then it will definately be faster. If its really a Pentium 4, they will be closer in speed; the G4 may be faster in multimedia. Overall the general responsiveness of the Mac will probably seem the same or faster just because all the elements of the UI are accelerated.

[crazedbytheheat]

Er, you're off by a factor of ten or so. I heard that there were 20,000 available at the SF Apple Store on release day, sold out within hours, and they're scheduled to manufacture 500,000 a month. I'm sure hundreds of thousands are preordered at this point.

There was an original rumor that they sold 20,000, but then it got reduced to 2000. Either way, these things appear to be flying off the eShelves. According to FedEx my 512 shuffle arrives today. I can't wait. Even though my mini is small, I still don't like running with it. I should be able to just hold the shuffle in my hands.

iLife still hasn't shipped for me, but is support to ship by Friday. Really hope it ships sooner, but I won't die if it doesn't.

[nylon]

Neat video. I see the apple logo on there, but it doesn't look like its apple produced. Did you make the video? If so, where'd you get the Mac Mini to take apart? I'm sure they wouldnt let you do that at MacWorld....

Hi,

I found the video on an obscure FTP (not the FTP the video is hosted on). I'm not sure if it is official but at least now we know how easy it is to open the Mac mini. Oh, and I didn't make the video.

I am definitely going to get me one of those things and put in a 7200 rpm drive and a gig of ram to juice it up a bit. I'll just order the least amount of ram possible from Apple.

[rogueimage]

Apple made me mad. I ordered within 30 mins of the store coming back up (BTO, Superdrive and BT). I called the NEXT DAY to up it to 512RAM. The genious on the phone CANCELLED my previous order (due to arrive on Jan 22) and entered a whole new one, with the upped memory. Now it says its shipping on or before Feb 10th...

GRR....

I had a similar problem with my order. I decided to upgrade to the larger hard drive, but for some reason they were unable to modify the order and cancelled it to start over from scratch. Unfortunately, I had to wait for the cancellation to clear through my bank, so I couldn't order until the next morning (the 12th). In the meantime, I also decided to upgrade to the faster processor. Unlike you, though, I got a shipment notice today. Don't know why you didn't, since you must have ordered at close to the same time. I guess I did reorder first thing that morning, about 6:30 AM Pacific time.

As for the doubters, I've checked the FedEx tracking, and something has shipped, anyway. :rolleyes:

[MmmPancakes]

Remember, On or Before is On or Before :) So don't feel too bad yet; if its 2/7 you can begin to be upset for waiting a bit. But in reality, Apple, like Dell and everyone else, tries to make a worse case scenario and tries to ship before that date.

I would have to think that will be a bit slower. I've got a Pentium M, which smokes the desktop Pentium 4. If you have the Pentium M in your notebook, then it will definately be faster. If its really a Pentium 4, they will be closer in speed; the G4 may be faster in multimedia. Overall the general responsiveness of the Mac will probably seem the same or faster just because all the elements of the UI are accelerated.

Thats true about the shipping. I've just read some pretty good things and I'm excited like everyone else. In retrospect, I'm really glad I went for the 512, although I skimped on the other features. I should have gone 80 gigs and maybe even with the SUperdrive, but I'm scared to be bumped back down in the shipping queue. Now that we're certain we can open the case relatively safely per the video, how easy do you think future upgrades (SD, New HDD, Ram,) etc?

[nagromme]

I went with 1.25/40/combo/512. I'm a proud switcher (at least tester) and a first time poster. How do you think the Mini compare to my current notebook: Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 2400 MHz 400MHz external bus 512MB? Any feedback would be welcome.
Based on the processor "Notes" link in this comparison (temshootouts.org/shootouts/desktop/2005/0111_dt0600.html), the 1.25 G4 is approximately equivalent to a 1.6 Ghz desktop Pentium 4, making the Mini slower than a 2.4 Ghz Pentium 4. But mobile Pentiums are not the same as desktop Pentiums--so the Mini will fare better than just 1.6 Ghz when compared to your laptop. And there are many other factors, like the video board.

Anyway, welcome! And stop back with questions when they come up. Best advice: poke through all the Preferences and View Options to find lots of power tucked away in OS X.

[nagromme]

Now that we're certain we can open the case relatively safely per the video, how easy do you think future upgrades (SD, New HDD, Ram,) etc?
SuperDrive? Maybe someday. RAM? Easy. HD? I suggest a Firewire external drive: it can be 3.5" instead of the internal 2.5". That means more space cheaper, and faster rpms. Plus flexible portability and backups--AND you get to keep the original 40 too.

Or just add an iPod for extra storage :)

[tubedogg]

Now that we're certain we can open the case relatively safely per the video, how easy do you think future upgrades (SD, New HDD, Ram,) etc?RAM will be a piece of cake. Hard drive will be harder, as from what I've heard it's harder to get at, plus it's a 2.5" drive, not a standard 3.5" desktop drive. I wouldn't hold my breath on upgrading the optical drive at all.

[dguisinger]

RAM will be a piece of cake. Hard drive will be harder, as from what I've heard it's harder to get at, plus it's a 2.5" drive, not a standard 3.5" desktop drive. I wouldn't hold my breath on upgrading the optical drive at all.

Actually, notebook components are easier to get these days; he could probably swap the hard drive out if he felt like it, but there may be some heat grease to put back on for proper cooling.

Also, the notebook CD drives that apple uses aren't Apple exclusive, he should be able to find slot-loading drives on the market that fit....in theory.

[crazedbytheheat]

Just checked my card. Looks like Apple charged me yesterday for iLife, so I'm guessing that's set to ship as well. My wife already has a bunch of photo's set up for the new books.

I suspect that the .Mac update scheduled for Saturday is related to iLife '05? Here's hoping the previous rumor of 1 GB .mac space updates (vs. 250 MB now) are also true and will show up on Sunday morning.

[MmmPancakes]

SuperDrive? Maybe someday. RAM? Easy. HD? I suggest a Firewire external drive: it can be 3.5" instead of the internal 2.5". That means more space cheaper, and faster rpms. Plus flexible portability and backups--AND you get to keep the original 40 too.

Or just add an iPod for extra storage :)

Good tips. I wouldn't try to replace the HD, but I've been looking at some external drives later, and it's good to know I can up the RAM if Tiger calls for it.

I gotta say I haven't even received my Mac yet, but I'm already sold on it as the result of the sense of community in the Mac population, particularly on this board.

[oingoboingo]

Mine is BTO and it shipped earlier today. 512mb/80gb/AE/BT/1.25GHz

You should have just went with the 1.42Ghz version, and saved a couple of dollars.

I'm confused. The 512mb/80gb/AE/BT/1.25GHz deal costs US $753. The 1.42GHz version costs US $599, includes an 80GB hard drive, but is without the extra RAM, AirPort Express or Bluetooth. When these are added, the price goes to US $803. That's $50 more expensive. How could he have saved money by going with the 1.42GHz version, unless you are suggesting LinuxGigolo leaves out the RAM upgrade and the AirPort and Bluetooth?

[virividox]

yay cant wait for reviews

[mcmav37]

Well this is good. We should have some user reports on iLife 05' soon.

Yes, this will be very good. I can't wait to get my copy of iLife.

Plus, you all know that it is your Macrumors duty to post pictures of your new mini, right?

[rendezvouscp]

Either way, these things appear to be flying off the eShelves.

I'm sorry to tell you, but when Apple takes over the world with their new army of Mac minis, you'll have to say "iShelves." ;)

Anyway, this is looking very good, and I'm happy to hear that they're shipping these machines.

For all of you who are concerned with the on or before date, stay cool! I was given a Oct. 10 (2003) ship date for my PM G5, but it showed up a week and a half early (Sept. 24, 2003)! Maybe you won't get the results I did, but it shouldn't be too bad.
-Chase

[tubedogg]

Actually, notebook components are easier to get these days; he could probably swap the hard drive out if he felt like it, but there may be some heat grease to put back on for proper cooling.Getting one won't be an issue, the size of it will be though. From what I've heard notebook drives max out at about 100GB and the biggest available in volume are 80GB, hence why the drives are only available up to 80GB in the mini.

[daddy-mojo]

It would have been about $55 more. $55 isn't worth it for the 0.17 GHz difference.

I agree, its a few bucks less to up the specs on the low end instead of the high end.

[0s and 1s]

Well, my Mini should be here by Saturday or Monday, but it's going to go up on eBay so I could buy an iMac G5! I spent $850 for a 1.4 GHz, SD, AE, and BT, and I don't even have a monitor yet! Damn buyer's remorse....

anyone interested?? :cool:

[n2o2]

I ordered a MAC MINI/512/80G/SD/AP/BT/N (1.42GHz) yesterday. Order tracking says it will be shipped on or before 15/02/2005.

[dontmatter]

wow. They said the mini was a change of heart....

I just didn't think it could possibly be THIS much of a change in philosophy from apple?

If this keeps up, how are we going to tell an apple product apart anymore?
;) :D

[eizzumdm]

Mine is BTO and I got the shipping notice at 2:32 AM today. 512 MB/80 GB/BT/SuperDrive/1.4GHz :D

I placed my order around noon on the 12th.

[Anonymous Freak]

Getting one won't be an issue, the size of it will be though. From what I've heard notebook drives max out at about 100GB and the biggest available in volume are 80GB, hence why the drives are only available up to 80GB in the mini.

Well, my eMac only has an 80GB drive, but I use external 160, 80, and 80 GB drives for video storage. The only problem I see with this setup on the mini is that it only has 1 FireWire port, so I can't have my camera on a separate chain from my (active) hard drive. (When capturing, I have just the cam on one port, just the 'active' hard drive on the other.)

I may very well sell the eMac for a mini, though; as I already have a 19" CRT that does 1600x1200 nicely. The only downside is that the eMac has an 8x SuperDrive, as opposed to the mini's 4x. (Oh well, it's the encoding that takes forever, anyway.)

[binder520]

HomeTheaterMac.com (http://hometheatermac.com/viewtopic.php?p=3&sid=a8cd2fe5933c7ff3552e949d81498763#3) has a picture of the Mac Mini's motherboard and even a video on how to safely crack open the Mac Mini.

[johnWinter]

So I ordered a BTO 1.42Ghz Mac mini (with 512MB RAM and BT) on 1/14...and my ship date is listed as "On or before 2/15"... ACK! Anyone with a similar configuration care to confirm that this is accurate? Just seems a bit long for only a couple days after it was announced....

[BWhaler]

Well, congratulations to everyone who is receiving their minis in the next week.

We're all looking forward to reading your reviews.

[pigwin32]

Yippe!

seriously though, what kind of people vote negative?!
Bill Palmer (http://www.billpalmer.net/2005/01/apple-can-take-its-idiot-box-and-stick.html), 14 times.

[Poff]

Well, my eMac only has an 80GB drive, but I use external 160, 80, and 80 GB drives for video storage. The only problem I see with this setup on the mini is that it only has 1 FireWire port, so I can't have my camera on a separate chain from my (active) hard drive. (When capturing, I have just the cam on one port, just the 'active' hard drive on the other.)

It does have USB 2.0, so you could just get a drive supporting both FW and USB2.0.

[techgeek]

So I ordered a BTO 1.42Ghz Mac mini (with 512MB RAM and BT) on 1/14...and my ship date is listed as "On or before 2/15"... ACK! Anyone with a similar configuration care to confirm that this is accurate? Just seems a bit long for only a couple days after it was announced....

I ordered the same spec plus a superdrive (plus a few other bits and pieces :D ) last sunday (16th) and got a ship date of the 14th Feb.
That is from the UK Apple small business store.

I'm really pleased for all you guys that are getting ship notices.....no really I am...not jealous at all ;)

[Platform]

Hope that we will see good test and reviews soon, more detaled takeaparts and upgraded RAM++ and how does in do performnce wise for the new apps and OS cooming and that have just been released :D

[reyesmac]

The Mac mini will do just fine. It will sell in greater volume than any other mac before it simply because of the price. Even if just Mac users are the ones that are buying it.
The only problem that the Mac mini has is that it has no major function that will draw in people like the iPod did. The OS is not enough, if it was more Macs would be sold. The Mac mini needs a killer app that will make having a second computer something anyone can swallow. I hope its a TiVo-like app or a server/media player. If Apple could come up with some subscription based OS that has all the .Mac stuff and media management, it would make the mini sell as much as the iPod.

[Zaty]

So I ordered a BTO 1.42Ghz Mac mini (with 512MB RAM and BT) on 1/14...and my ship date is listed as "On or before 2/15"... ACK! Anyone with a similar configuration care to confirm that this is accurate? Just seems a bit long for only a couple days after it was announced....

Unfortunately, it seems the first batch of Mac minis has sold out extremely fast. If you didn't order one within the first couple of hours after the keynote, you'll have to wait for the second batch being produced in East Asia.

[Zaty]

The Mac mini will do just fine. It will sell in greater volume than any other mac before it simply because of the price. Even if just Mac users are the ones that are buying it.
The only problem that the Mac mini has is that it has no major function that will draw in people like the iPod did. The OS is not enough, if it was more Macs would be sold. The Mac mini needs a killer app that will make having a second computer something anyone can swallow. I hope its a TiVo-like app or a server/media player. If Apple could come up with some subscription based OS that has all the .Mac stuff and media management, it would make the mini sell as much as the iPod.

What about iLife? The suite is still unmatched in the Windows world. Yes, there a programs that can do the same things (or even more) than iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD and GarageBand but if you bought all those apps, you' end up spending hundreds of $.

[bipto]

Apple made me mad. I ordered within 30 mins of the store coming back up (BTO, Superdrive and BT). I called the NEXT DAY to up it to 512RAM. The genious on the phone CANCELLED my previous order (due to arrive on Jan 22) and entered a whole new one, with the upped memory. Now it says its shipping on or before Feb 10th...

GRR....
I've had the same issue with Apple in the past. It's a good thing to know. They don't change orers, they cancel them and create new ones. Buyer beware...

[bipto]

Oh yeah, and my mom's mini just left Shenzhen, China! :cool:

I don't recall ever ordering a new Apple product and 1) having it ship so early after announcement, and 2) having it ship on time without being delayed. Way to go Apple!

Anyone order a Bronze Keyboard PowerBook G3 right after its announcement? Anyone remember how many months they waited for it? Ah, those were the days...

[AndrewTosh]

Have they arrived in store yet, or will they be arriving on the 22nd? All I want is a stock 1.25/256/40 mini. If I take a ~1h drive to Delaware, I can pick one up for $480 and no tax. I don't want to wait around until February! :P

-Andrew

[Macmaniac]

I can't wait till someone posts a complete autopsy video. Where are those Japanese hackers when you need them?

[mrzippy]

If anyone is interested I've set up a project to build a Mac Media Center based on the Mac mini.

Have quite a few members, still looking for programmers and suggestions.

http://mrzippy.org.uk/macmediacenter/

[Platform]

If anyone is interested I've set up a project to build a Mac Media Center based on the Mac mini.

Have quite a few members, still looking for programmers and suggestions.

http://mrzippy.org.uk/macmediacenter/
Sounds very good but I don't know any programing on mac :(
Looks like we are going to have a lot of good stuff comming for the mac mini and a big community dedicated to it :D :D :D

[mrzippy]

If Mac mini as a Media Center takes off I bet Apple with suddenly add 5.1 out and release their own Media Center.

We can only hope.

Lets hope the MMC project takes off :)

[Platform]

If Mac mini as a Media Center takes off I bet Apple with suddenly add 5.1 out and release their own Media Center.

We can only hope.

Lets hope the MMC project takes off :)

I hope that it does not go too far becasue i want to be able to use this as a good computer for Tiger, iLife, iWork, Photoshop ++ not just a box to record from the TV with or as an iTunes streaming center :eek:

[ntg]

If Mac mini as a Media Center takes off I bet Apple with suddenly add 5.1 out and release their own Media Center.

We can only hope.

Lets hope the MMC project takes off :)

...It makes you wonder about 'Asteroid' doesn't it.....

Is that mac mini audio socket also fibre?

Nig. :rolleyes:

[nagromme]

The only problem that the Mac mini has is that it has no major function that will draw in people like the iPod did. The OS is not enough, if it was more Macs would be sold. The Mac mini needs a killer app that will make having a second computer something anyone can swallow.
First-glance draw: small size and price. Both NEW factors to the Mac world.

Second-glance draw: the OS IS enough, IF people know about it. Reliability and ease-of-use matter.

Killer app: iLife '05 has several--bundled free!

But more universally desired: the lack of viruses/spyware.

Working against all those positives: ignorance of non-Windows options and the comfort of following the herd.

Working against those negatives: the iPod, Apple style, massive Apple press presence, growing Apple mindshare, and growing awareness of Windows' flaws. Every person who sees the light bulb adds more momentum.

Conclusion: the Mac Mini IS enough to draw significant numbers of new Mac users. Some right away--but most over time as awareness snowballs. One day that critical mass will be reached when the choice to use a Mac is widely seen as "OK" and not "out there." Macs will be on the radar of the uninformed majority.

Icing on the cake: if Apple actually PROMOTES the Mac Mini and Tiger in advertising. (I'm not one who thinks ads can explain OS details effectively--but they CAN draw people to the web site.) They might wish to wait until Tiger is out and/or Mac Mini supply/demand stabilizes.

[Laurent]

Just go into system prefs and set the perferred language to French... All your Apple apps will speak French just by turning that pref on. I could never understand people ordering a French version in America... Je parle de nous, évidemment.

The only benefit you will have will the French print on the box, the small highly illustrated manual (it is real tiny) and a delay.

On the other hand someone has to ask for a French box, but you realize you get the system that is sold in France, thus the delay.

c'est beaucoup plus rapide de prendre ce qui vient. Mac OS X est un système multilingue.Voyons donc, comme si je n'avais jamais utilisé Mac OS X de ma vie! ;oP

The thing is, I like having my stuff (box, etc.) in french and honestly don't care about the delay that much. It shows that french is my first language, which can only help in maintaining french support in the future...

[JGowan]

Er, you're off by a factor of ten or so. I heard that there were 20,000 available at the SF Apple Store on release day, sold out within hours, and they're scheduled to manufacture 500,000 a month. I'm sure hundreds of thousands are preordered at this point.Er, you heard wrong. Thanks to those who posted before me to validate what I said.

[LinuxGigolo]

I've had the same issue with Apple in the past. It's a good thing to know. They don't change orers, they cancel them and create new ones. Buyer beware...

They explained to me that this is what they were going to do when I called back on the 12th to change the RAM and HD in my mini. I was paranoid at first, but they told me it wouldn't affect my ship date. And it didn't.

[mikehelmick]

Mine just shipped & I actually ordered on the morning of the 12th.

FedEx from China - No estimated delivery date.

I ordered
1.25/512MB/80GB/SuperDrive
Didn't get wireless since this machine will sit next to my switch

I also ordered iWork, but that hasn't shipped yet..... I imagine that this is coming from California instead of China?

[ASP272]

Good job to Apple on the fast shipping! :)

[Lord Bodak]

Without a TV card the media center idea doesn't really work. eyeTV is nice, but I want the ability to have real-time TV (for the PS2 hooked up to it-- the 1-2 second delay doesn't really matter for regular TV).

[Azeron]

You know this little mac would be the perfect gaming console. With wifi and bluetooth, you can have quite a few wireless controllers, it connects to the internet, and the graphics processer is pretty good.... so yah, it would be pretty cool if it was a game system. Ship a stripped down version of OSX for gaming so you didn;t have all of the aqua overhead, and I could see this working pretty good.

Just a thought....

[Hodapp]

Congrats to those who got em. Me? The wait continues til the release of Tiger.

I'm beginning to wonder if you just have this reply on your clipboard so you can paste it in to any thread regarding the Mini. I think everyone here knows you're waiting for Tiger.

mikehelmick, what was your original ship date when you ordered on the 12th? I ordered two BTO Minis on the morning of the 15th, and my ship date STILL is 2/15. Hopefully I'll get them much sooner. :D

[azentropy]

I ordered two Mac minis on the same order. One a stock 1.42, the other a 1.42 BTO w/AP. My order shows the BTO has shipped but not the stock... Thought it would have been the other way around...

Order Date
01/11/2005
12:50 PM PST

[sinisterdesign]

You know this little mac would be the perfect gaming console. With wifi and bluetooth, you can have quite a few wireless controllers, it connects to the internet, and the graphics processer is pretty good.... so yah, it would be pretty cool if it was a game system. Ship a stripped down version of OSX for gaming so you didn;t have all of the aqua overhead, and I could see this working pretty good.

Just a thought....

except for the high-def graphics & surround sound...

cool little 'puter, though. i'm just not sure the little 32MB Radeon could pump out frame rates like an Xbox. i could be wrong. i own an Xbox & a dual G4 and i've been bummed w/ the graphics on Worlds of Warcraft lately. i bought a new 128MB video card only to find that it didn't really help. it's still laggy & jittery even w/ the graphics level set low to moderate. so i have my doubts that a single G4 and a 32MB card could do any better.

[azentropy]

I ordered two Mac minis on the same order. One a stock 1.42, the other a 1.42 BTO w/AP. My order shows the BTO has shipped but not the stock... Thought it would have been the other way around...

Order Date
01/11/2005
12:50 PM PST

FedEX posted an update...

Estimated delivery date Jan 24, 2005 by 10:30 am

That stinks, especially when I upgraded to 2 day shipping. :(

Still keeping my fingers crossed for delivery Friday.

[wPod]

I bet they will ship by fri or sat. they are supposed to be in the mac stores by sat morning at 9am. i stopped by my local store hopping to pressure an employe into some insider information and sure enough i got what i came for. he said the store would have mini's in on the morning of the 22nd and that they would be opening early at 9am!!! i really want to go pick one up but if my gf gets her way in it then i wont be getting one :-/ i have a perefectly well working PB 867 so how can i convince her that i need a mini for fun and entertainment?!?! oh well, i guess i dont *need* one.

[Captnroger]

So anyone have any opinions on a switchbox to use to allow me to use my existing USB mouse/keyboard and vga display and flip-flop between the mini and my PC? I don't have any other USB perf. to share, just the mouse/keyboard and the display.

This is going to be cool.

[stealthboy]

If anyone is interested I've set up a project to build a Mac Media Center based on the Mac mini.

Have quite a few members, still looking for programmers and suggestions.

http://mrzippy.org.uk/macmediacenter/


Why not just work on MythTV? I have it running on my iMac, and it's the main reason why I'm buying a Mac mini. I have a Linux backend that records shows for me, then the frontend can run on my Mac or other Linux boxes.

http://www.mythtv.org/

There are plugins for videos, DVD, music, weather, etc, in addition to the standard Television capabilities.

[mikehelmick]

mikehelmick, what was your original ship date when you ordered on the 12th? I ordered two BTO Minis on the morning of the 15th, and my ship date STILL is 2/15. Hopefully I'll get them much sooner. :D

My ship date read "est. before Jan 21st" until this morning when it shipped

[nina]

So anyone have any opinions on a switchbox to use to allow me to use my existing USB mouse/keyboard and vga display and flip-flop between the mini and my PC? I don't have any other USB perf. to share, just the mouse/keyboard and the display.

This is going to be cool.

Freaky.. I was JUST looking for this, too.

If you're in Canada, Future Shops sells a powered Cicero USB KVM switch for only $49.99. It's a lot cheaper than the $179 Belkin switch from the Apple store. The only big difference is that the Belkin supports audio sharing as well.

I don't really care about the video aspect, since I've got two monitors already. All I need is a way to share my Logitech MX Duo between my PC and this Mac mini. If this Cicero KVM works, it'd be sweet.

But like some other people ( :p ) I'm waiting for Tiger to ship before I buy.

[mimitche]

Apple made me mad. I ordered within 30 mins of the store coming back up (BTO, Superdrive and BT). I called the NEXT DAY to up it to 512RAM. The genious on the phone CANCELLED my previous order (due to arrive on Jan 22) and entered a whole new one, with the upped memory. Now it says its shipping on or before Feb 10th...

GRR....

I did the same thing but I just got shipping notification last night, even though it had an estimate of Feb 10th. Don't worry, you'll probably get it soon.

[mian]

FedEX posted an update...

Estimated delivery date Jan 24, 2005 by 10:30 am

That stinks, especially when I upgraded to 2 day shipping. :(

Still keeping my fingers crossed for delivery Friday.

Mine shows the 24th by 12:00. I'm hoping for Friday as well.

[wdlove]

They explained to me that this is what they were going to do when I called back on the 12th to change the RAM and HD in my mini. I was paranoid at first, but they told me it wouldn't affect my ship date. And it didn't.

If you were remembering the problems with shipping of the 2.5, your were correct to be paranoid. Many posted that they made a change in a specification on their 2.5 G5 and it delayed the shipping date significantly. Kudos to Apple, they learned from past mistakes.

[jncrow]

Looking forward to hearing how the little mac mini performs for you all. Checked out the link that was posted on another thread for http://www.macminireview.com/ and it is not up and running yet so no info there yet. All you that ordered them let the rest of us know. Please!

[Bleu]

Have they arrived in store yet, or will they be arriving on the 22nd?

They'll be available on the 22nd. Word is that all Apple stores open 1 hour early on Saturday, but being as the DE store is located within the Christiana Mall you might want to call ahead and check on that.

[ruud]

Voted negative because I'm jealous... mine is still "on or before 02/11" :(

[griff]

I ordered mine right after the keynote ended. I used the free shipping method. The shipping process started yesterday, via FedEx. Their site now tells me I should have the MacMini by 10am on Friday. So a day before official release.

This was a 1.42 with superdrive, BT and Airport. I bought the RAM at CircuitCity for $50. I may end up tossing this up on Ebay as someone else had mentioned.

[mian]

I ordered mine right after the keynote ended. I used the free shipping method. The shipping process started yesterday, via FedEx. Their site now tells me I should have the MacMini by 10am on Friday. So a day before official release.


When did yours leave China? Mine left at 7:09pm 1/19/05, but is scheduled for delivery on the 24th. :(

[binder520]

If anyone is interested I've set up a project to build a Mac Media Center based on the Mac mini.

Have quite a few members, still looking for programmers and suggestions.

http://mrzippy.org.uk/macmediacenter/

I have a forum set up, HomeTheaterMac.com (http://www.hometheatermac.com) just for that type of discussion. Let me know if you want to collaborate.

[anthonymoody]

I ordered mine as soon as I could after the keynote (1.42, 512MB, AE/BT, 80GB) and Fedex says:

Estimated delivery
Jan 21, 2005 10:30 AM

It's gonna be a good weekend! :D

TM

[patrick0brien]

Congrats to those who got em. Me? The wait continues til the release of Tiger. There is something just yummy about Tiger and a Mini. :D Now if only Apple would release their 17" G5 PowerBook. ;) :D


Patience may be a virtue. Its also a PITA. :p

-SiliconAddict

So if you took an iMac Mini and Tiger, would that give you a "Tigger"?

[griff]

When did yours leave China? Mine left at 7:09pm 1/19/05, but is scheduled for delivery on the 24th. :(


The same. But it's going to depend where you live. I live about 5 miles outside of Boston. If you live in the middle of Kansas, I'm sure it would take longer. Everything is going to go to TN most likely first and then go to the local places from there.

[nagromme]

Ship a stripped down version of OSX for gaming so you didn;t have all of the aqua overhead, and I could see this working pretty good.
It's not a high-end 3D board in the Mini so don't expect the highest detail in the latest games... but it's higher-end than some 3D boards I've had a LOT of fun with! We'll have to see how it tests. But don't worry about Aqua. It seems to have no overhead when not actively in use.


cool little 'puter, though. i'm just not sure the little 32MB Radeon could pump out frame rates like an Xbox.
I have my doubts as well. But the CPU is certainly faster than an X-Box.

One thing to keep in mind when comparing a computer to a console: the console puts out LOW QUALITY video: 640x480, non-anti-aliased. And typically lower-res textures than we expect on a computer too. It gets away with that because TVs are blurry, and we don't EXPECT better on TV. IN addition, TVs only have 30 frames/60 fields per second--any framerates better than that offer no visible benefit.

So consoles "have it easy" in some ways. If you saw the SAME quality as X-Box (Halo, say) on a nice computer monitor, you wouldn't think it was so great. If your Mac Mini achieves close to the same quality... you won't think that's so great, either!

The answer, of course, is to run your Mac Mini to TV so the burriness hides the defects just like with a console. Get that $19 TV adapter from Apple and enjoy the big size. Even my old PowerBook G3, 333 Mhz with 16 VRAM, looks surprisingly good running "older" 3D games to TV! Better than on its own screen because I no longer "notice" the low res I'm forced to settle for. (And my PowerBook G4 1.25 GHz makes UT2004 look just amazing on TV! 64 VRAM though, better than the Mini.)

(And regardless of how the image detail looks compared to anything else, the game PLAY can still be fun!)

PS, my iLife '05 just shipped :D

[dicklacara]

-SiliconAddict

So if you took an iMac Mini and Tiger, would that give you a "Tigger"?


Ahhh..... Pooh!

[binder520]

The race is on for the first Home Theater Mac Mini. Be the first to do it and let us know at HomeTheaterMac.com (http://www.hometheatermac.com).

Better yet, prove it by posting a picture of it.

[Renko31]

Interested to see Amazon.co.uk (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007A5I0U/rewardpoints-21/026-1176148-8618824) are selling both Mac mini and the Shuffle.

Didn't realise they were that keen on Macs :cool:
Lovely jubbly

Also on the same page is a Belkin Wireless keyboard and optical mouse for £36.99. Not too bad at all.

And no, I don't work for Amazon or Belkin!

Renko

[iKwick7]

The same. But it's going to depend where you live. I live about 5 miles outside of Boston. If you live in the middle of Kansas, I'm sure it would take longer. Everything is going to go to TN most likely first and then go to the local places from there.


Boston, eh?

What the hell.... i', in New Jersey and Fed Ex says estimated delivery on 10:30 am, monday the 24th. I hope I get it friday or saturday, or my weekend and my monday will suck, because I won't be able to play around with it until late monday night. :(

[BWhaler]

PS, my iLife '05 just shipped :D

Good to read it is shipping.

The odd thing is I ordered iLife and iWork as part of the same order, but I have only received a notice that iWork has shipped. Maybe Apple sold a ton more of iLife than they were expected.

Anyway, while I can't wait for iLife to come, if I have iWork to play around with, I'll be satisfied. I really hope it makes it here tomorrow.

[BrianEnigma]

It looks like mine should be in Portland, OR on time... (although I am crossing my fingers that it may even be early)

Estimated delivery: Jan 21, 2005 10:30 AM
Jan 19, 2005, 11:42 AM, Arrived at FedEx location: ANCHORAGE, AK
Jan 19, 2005, 1:01 AM, Left origin: SHENZHEN CN
Jan 18, 2005, 11:08 PM, Picked up: SHENZHEN CN, Package received after FedEx cutoff

[Seraphiem]

Have any other mini orders placed on the 11th not shipped yet? My 1.42/512/AE BTO has yet to ship and I ordered a few hours after the keynote.

Sadly I screwed up and added Overnight shipping along with a keyboard that I said to bundle all items into one shipment.

My order is still open and expected to ship on or before 1/21. I understand its my mistake for ordering 'costly' extras, yet with this being my first new Mac in over a decade how am I supposed to be aware of Apple's new product release/shipping choas. I'm sure I can wait a few extra days as its not the end of the world. I just can't help but feel slightly cheated if others who opted for the free ground shipping got it a little earlier.

[jaw04005]

Is FedEx reporting that the mini's are signature required?

[dicklacara]

It looks like mine should be in Portland, OR on time... (although I am crossing my fingers that it may even be early)

Estimated delivery: Jan 21, 2005 10:30 AM
Jan 19, 2005, 11:42 AM, Arrived at FedEx location: ANCHORAGE, AK
Jan 19, 2005, 1:01 AM, Left origin: SHENZHEN CN
Jan 18, 2005, 11:08 PM, Picked up: SHENZHEN CN, Package received after FedEx cutoff

Don't get too excited-- my mini is on the same shipment, & I am not getting my hopes up.

I recently bought an iMac G5 that came the same route:


Oct 27, 2004 10:12 AM Delivered ANTIOCH, CA
8:23 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery PACHECO, CA
6:34 AMAt local FedEx facility PACHECO, CA
6:17 AM Departed FedEx location OAKLAND, CA
Oct 26, 2004 5:36 PM Arrived at FedEx location OAKLAND, CA
9:31 AM Departed FedEx location LOS ANGELES, CA
4:56 AM Departed FedEx location INDIANAPOLIS, IN
6:32 AM Int'l shipment release
12:38 AM Arrived at FedEx location INDIANAPOLIS, IN
Oct 25, 2004 4:10 PM Departed FedEx location ANCHORAGE, AK
1:47 PM Arrived at FedEx location ANCHORAGE, AK
Oct 24, 2004 10:21 PM At local FedEx facility SHANGHAI CN
Oct 23, 2004 11:30 PM At local FedEx facility
11:50 AM Left origin SHANGHAI CN
11:30 AM Picked up SHANGHAI CN Future delivery requested
11:30 AM Package data transmitted to FedEx; package not in FedEx possession

[mattmack]

Gonna check my local reseller if they'll have it in stock on the 22nd.
My local Apple store says they will be in stock on the 22nd :)

[mian]

It looks like mine should be in Portland, OR on time... (although I am crossing my fingers that it may even be early)

Estimated delivery: Jan 21, 2005 10:30 AM
Jan 19, 2005, 11:42 AM, Arrived at FedEx location: ANCHORAGE, AK
Jan 19, 2005, 1:01 AM, Left origin: SHENZHEN CN
Jan 18, 2005, 11:08 PM, Picked up: SHENZHEN CN, Package received after FedEx cutoff

Mine arrived in Anchorage at the same time and left at 2:09 pm. Still have an estimated delivery date of 1/24/05. I'm hoping they beat the estimate.

[Whotheheck]

7:09 pm
Left FedEx Ramp
SHENZHEN CN

3:42 pm
Arrived at FedEx Ramp
SHENZHEN CN

2:09 pm
Left FedEx Sort Facility
ANCHORAGE AK

11:42 am
Arrived at Sort Facility
ANCHORAGE AK

10:36 am
Left FedEx Origin Location
SHENZHEN CN

8:37 am
Pickup status
SHENZHEN CN


WTF?????????? It says delivery on Monday :( :( :(

Edit: That's from newest scan to oldest.

[LinuxGigolo]

I just can't help but feel slightly cheated if others who opted for the free ground shipping got it a little earlier.

Apple actually doesn't specify what its free shipping is (ground, air, camel, otherwise). Part of the reason for this is because they offer free shipping on seemingly all orders above $50 and products such as Mac mini and iMac G5 are air freighted from China/Taiwan. What that means is that 'free shipping' is effectively, at least immediately after hardware product release, usually by air and will get there VERY quickly.

And don't feel bad -- mine shipped, but the tracking number doesn't work. Fedex's site has said since yesterday early evening

" No scan record for the following shipments has been received by our system yet. Please try again later or contact Customer Service."

Hopefully they just forgot to scan it.

[LinuxGigolo]

7:09 pm
Left FedEx Ramp
SHENZHEN CN

3:42 pm
Arrived at FedEx Ramp
SHENZHEN CN

2:09 pm
Left FedEx Sort Facility
ANCHORAGE AK

11:42 am
Arrived at Sort Facility
ANCHORAGE AK

10:36 am
Left FedEx Origin Location
SHENZHEN CN

8:37 am
Pickup status
SHENZHEN CN


WTF?????????? It says delivery on Monday :( :( :(

Edit: That's from newest scan to oldest.

I've seen Fedex do this before. In fact, when I got something shipped from NewEgg, it left and returned to Newark like 5 times before it finally made its way to Pittsburgh. Fortunately, it also wasn't delayed... it just had a lot of odd arrival/departure scans....

... though.. maybe yours had to go back to China to pick mine up since mine apparently hasn't ever been actually 'shipped' (Fedex has nothing about the tracking #)

[purell16]

Does anyone know if the Mac Minis will also be at the CompUsa/Apple Stores?

[ericschmerick]

Have any other mini orders placed on the 11th not shipped yet? My 1.42/512/AE BTO has yet to ship and I ordered a few hours after the keynote.

Sadly I screwed up and added Overnight shipping along with a keyboard that I said to bundle all items into one shipment.

My order is still open and expected to ship on or before 1/21. I understand its my mistake for ordering 'costly' extras, yet with this being my first new Mac in over a decade how am I supposed to be aware of Apple's new product release/shipping choas. I'm sure I can wait a few extra days as its not the end of the world. I just can't help but feel slightly cheated if others who opted for the free ground shipping got it a little earlier.

I ordered mine at about the same time, basically same config (no AE), and it hasn't shipped either. No accessories, free shipping. When I placed the order, the screen said "for delivery on Jan 22nd", but I guess that meant for shipment before Jan 22nd . . . Maybe I'll go stand in line at the Apple store at 7am on Sat and buy another one.

[Gerg]

Remember, Shenzen, China, is 15 hours ahead of us (Eastern Time). The shipment left China at 7:09 PM on 1/19/2005 LOCAL TIME. The packages arrived in Anchorage and left there at 2:09 PM on 1/9/2005 LOCAL TIME, which is 6:09 PM Eastern Time.

Mine is on the same flight as all the others. I hope they're enjoying the ride!

BTW, mine still says it's to be delivered by 10:30 am on Friday, Jan 21st! :D

[LinuxGigolo]

I kinda wonder if there's a difference in delivery time based on if it's being delivered to a business or residence. Apple asks when you place the order, so I wonder if the people with projected delivery dates of Monday are getting it shipped to a house and those with Friday to a business. Wouldn't surprise me...

[jaw04005]

I don't know, but my mini shipped early this morning. So far, FedEx has not updated its status page. I purchased directly from Apple, specifically because of the "promise" that it would be delivered by the 22nd. Apparently, its not looking that way...

I placed my order for a 1.42Ghz mini with AirPort & Bluetooth within 20 minutes after the keynote... as soon as the Apple Store came online. I called and confirmed with Apple after I placed my order, and was assured that the mini would be delivered before or on the 22nd---so will see.

[KnaveOfSpades]

I kinda wonder if there's a difference in delivery time based on if it's being delivered to a business or residence. Apple asks when you place the order, so I wonder if the people with projected delivery dates of Monday are getting it shipped to a house and those with Friday to a business. Wouldn't surprise me...

nope...It's all location within the United States...mine's going to a buisiness and is due on the 24th, but I also live on the East Coast.

[nagromme]

All day my tracking # (iLife) has been denied by FedEx too.
"Not found
No scan record for the following shipments has been received by our system yet. Please try again later or contact Customer Service."

Some FedEx glitch I think--they can't ALL be forgetting to scan.

(Or maybe they're all sitting on a dock somewhere having never been picked up... No! I won't think it!)

[KnaveOfSpades]

All day my tracking # (iLife) has been denied by FedEx too.
"Not found
No scan record for the following shipments has been received by our system yet. Please try again later or contact Customer Service."

Some FedEx glitch I think--they can't ALL be forgetting to scan.

(Or maybe they're all sitting on a dock somewhere having never been picked up... No! I won't think it!)

Patience...Sometimes it takes a while for the items to get into the system. ;)

[nagromme]

I can be patient.

EDIT: It's still "Not Found."

EDIT: Still Not Found!!

EDIT: STILL ... NOT ... FOUND !!!

[purell16]

Well...Ill be waiting at my local CompUsa store at 7 am on Saturday!! Hoping that they will have it. I have called a couple of Apple stores outside of town to ask if they know if the apple stores inside CompUsa will also have them on Saturday. All that I called said IDK, except for one. I called one a couple of cities away from me in Plano, TX...and the lady got really snooty with me saying "How in the heck would I know...we arent CompUsa.." She was real mean!! But just to let all yall know....all Apple stores will have the Mac Minis on Saturday!!

[usersince86]

When someone gets their mini (or if you know beforehand), does the speed of the optical drive slow down if you set it on its side?

Thanks!

[heyandy]

And don't feel bad -- mine shipped, but the tracking number doesn't work. Fedex's site has said since yesterday early evening

" No scan record for the following shipments has been received by our system yet. Please try again later or contact Customer Service."

Hopefully they just forgot to scan it.

I hope you're right about the missed scan. They're shipping thousands of these things. I ordered a BTO 1.42 minutes after the keynote. I got the shipment notification this morning, but the tracking number still isn't showing up in FedEx tracking. I'm not too concerned about Friday, Saturday, Monday, whatever -- I've got plenty to keep me busy this weekend. The apparent limbo state of my mini does make me scratch my head a little.

[mhrob]

Voyons donc, comme si je n'avais jamais utilisé Mac OS X de ma vie! ;oP

The thing is, I like having my stuff (box, etc.) in french and honestly don't care about the delay that much. It shows that french is my first language, which can only help in maintaining french support in the future...

On ne pouvait pas le savoir en te lisant. Yes, I see your point, but couldn't be sure you knew about it or not. I do a lot of Mac tech support and most new users, and some old ones too, don't know the first thing about multilingual support.

I did write to the canadian iTMS about the non-existent French music support though. Je fais ma part :).

[TinBigD]

Well...Ill be waiting at my local CompUsa store at 7 am on Saturday!! Hoping that they will have it. I have called a couple of Apple stores outside of town to ask if they know if the apple stores inside CompUsa will also have them on Saturday. All that I called said IDK, except for one. I called one a couple of cities away from me in Plano, TX...and the lady got really snooty with me saying "How in the heck would I know...we arent CompUsa.." She was real mean!! But just to let all yall know....all Apple stores will have the Mac Minis on Saturday!!
Yeah well you may not want to wait til Saturday. I have a "hunch" they are en route to CUSA stores in limited quantities.... Ipod shuffles - already been selling since Monday.

[purell16]

Yeah well you may not want to wait til Saturday. I have a "hunch" they are en route to CUSA stores in limited quantities.... Ipod shuffles - already been selling since Monday.

What do you Mean? Do you think that they will get there by friday??

[TinBigD]

Yeah, unless for some silly reason they're gonna be sitting in a warehouse until next week. I'll know for sure tomorrow.

[purell16]

How do you know all this? Why would CUSA stores have the minis before everybody else?

[TinBigD]

I won't sit here and say I know it all. :p
But I learn alot from forums like this and what little I can give back in return, I do my best to. I am also very excited about switching to a Mac (mini specifically).
Anyway, see my username and where CUSA corporate is.

[purell16]

Well thanks for all the info...and I would really appreciate it if you could email me at mooger@sbcglobal.net when you find out when exactly the mac minis will be at compusa!! Thanks once again!!

[ipedro]

I suspect that the .Mac update scheduled for Saturday is related to iLife '05? Here's hoping the previous rumor of 1 GB .mac space updates (vs. 250 MB now) are also true and will show up on Sunday morning.

Ya, I really hope Apple upgrades the .Mac accounts to 1GB . As it stands now, .Mac is a major ripoff. You can get 250MB with hotmail or 1GB with gmail ... FREE! Why pay $100 bucks for the other less used features?

If 1GB does materialize on .Mac, I'll sign up and cancel my website and email hosting service and just move it to .Mac .

As for the Mac Mini. I think it's a waste of money at this point.

I have an Airport Express, OSX Tiger and iLife05 on my shopping list right now. I might as well wait until Tiger ships. At that point, I'll get the Mac Mini, which I can use as my WiFi transmitter for my PowerBook and it comes with Tiger and iLife05 for free.

I calculcated things, and I figured that I'll be saving CAD$420 bucks by buying the mini instead of all the seperate products. I'll pay just another CAD$300 or so for a Mac Mini.

But I think I'll be patient and wait til the summer where I'm sure Steve will announce a progression of the Mac Mini to perhaps include better media center capabilities built in such as S-Video and a remote controler.

I got it all strategized :D

[iPC]

except for the high-def graphics & surround sound...

cool little 'puter, though. i'm just not sure the little 32MB Radeon could pump out frame rates like an Xbox. i could be wrong. i own an Xbox & a dual G4 and i've been bummed w/ the graphics on Worlds of Warcraft lately. i bought a new 128MB video card only to find that it didn't really help. it's still laggy & jittery even w/ the graphics level set low to moderate. so i have my doubts that a single G4 and a 32MB card could do any better.
G4 bus speed is horrendously slow... :(

[AidenShaw]

But I think I'll be patient and wait til the summer where I'm sure Steve will announce a progression of the Mac Mini to perhaps include better media center capabilities built in such as S-Video and a remote controler.

http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html

S-video and composite video output to connect directly to a TV or projector (requires Apple DVI to Video Adapter, sold separately)

The MiniMac already supports S-Video....


...and it comes with Tiger and iLife05 for free.

I calculcated things, and I figured that I'll be saving CAD$420 bucks by buying the mini instead of all the seperate products. I'll pay just another CAD$300 or so for a Mac Mini.

But you'll still need to buy 10.4 and iLife for your other computer.... It would be piracy to try to install the MiniMac's kit on your other machines!

[Scarpad]

So I ordered a BTO 1.42Ghz Mac mini (with 512MB RAM and BT) on 1/14...and my ship date is listed as "On or before 2/15"... ACK! Anyone with a similar configuration care to confirm that this is accurate? Just seems a bit long for only a couple days after it was announced....

Mine's 2/14 and it has the 512MB Airport, Superdrive 80GBHD I'm optomistic thou I ordered a pair of Klipsch speakers from apple ship was On or Before 1/31 and I go tthem today. :eek:

[ipedro]

http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html


But you'll still need to buy 10.4 and iLife for your other computer.... It would be piracy to try to install the MiniMac's kit on your other machines!

ha ha! They're lucky if I buy one OS and install it on all my machines. Most people will just grab it off a P2P network for free.

Let's put it this way, my PB is my first Mac. Before that I was on Win machines for 15 years. I never bought a copy of Windows or anything from Microsoft for that matter.
When I moved to Apple, I vowed to get ligitimate software. There's no way I'll buy an OS for each of my systems... I mean.. who does that??

[dontmakemehurtu]

:(

[tubedogg]

There's no way I'll buy an OS for each of my systems... I mean.. who does that??People who aren't pirates, people who have a conscience...need I continue the list? Just because people do it doesn't make it right.

[chanoc]

I went to the Apple Store online and configured a 1.25GHz w/512MB DDR. It said it would not ship for another 3-4 weeks. :(

[56nomad]

I couldn't get a tracking result when I clicked through the shipping notice email I got from Apple, but when I went directly to the FedEx site and entered the tracking numberthere, I got a delivery date of 1/21. If you are having trouble tracking, try FedEx directly.

[HomesliceJ]

I am grateful that the eMacs have been discontinued. They are heavy! eMacs were just leftover pieces of G4 components and old faithful CRTs Apple just had to get rid of. CRTs just has to go. I'm glad they didn't decide on a G5 eMac... cause what's the point right? the iMac does all of that.

A budget Mac computer would be.. yes... the Mac Mini's. Good idea to 1) attract switchers with keyboards, mouse, and display... 2) use all of their G4 components (1.25 G4s).... 3) Push the LCD market and stop serving CRTs.... 4) prove that PCs aren't the only one making small ass computers. Schools will be using the iMac if needed as a eMac replacement. Mini Macs will be used to help support 3rd party LCD Screen companies and also help sell Mac's own LCDs. PowerMac G5 are at a low sale compared to the iMac, PowerBook, and iBooks. Which means, even if PowerMacs are sold well, the LCDs are definitely aren't selling too well comparatively. They needed to get that LCD market going. So it was a great job making the Mac Mini in an Aluminum casing maching a possible 20" Apple display. Plus the DVI cable, which kinda suggests... hmm it's a perfect fit for an Apple display.

Mac Mini's totally serve a "cool" factor... "Really it's that small?" or "my goodness the Cube idea is coming back and i'm sure you can stick a mac mini underneath a G4 Cube (WHICH YOU CAN!!)". But the specs or an eh... but lets not be too greedy here... it's a G4 1.25!! remember when you had a G4 500 and you were like... dude only a G4 1ghz can handle my graphics and record my music and do some good video editing.... IT does just that! With the specs which lies inbetween iBook and Powerbook, this is a powerful machine!

Expect some cool 3rd party addons i'm sure. With EyeTV gettin all famous with it's media center thang, i'm totally sure they will make a mini EyeTV mocking the same shape of the Mac Mini fitting perfectly underneath making your Mac Mini an Entertainment Center (aka... the presumed iHome). Imagine, a Mac Mini as your entertainment Center... that's insane! And a great look under your 42" LCD "silver" (must be matching), TV Screen. Bluetooh remote control... HD... It's going to be as hot as an iTrip on your iPod.

Mac Mini is going to be huge... or will be.

[tex210]

I thought some of you would appreciate these columns...

the tivo bit
http://lowendmac.com/musings/02/1010.html
and this
http://lowendmac.com/myturn/02/1230.html

[retrospek]

Its good news that the Mini's are now shipping.

I'm in the UK and I ordered on the day of the announcement, my ship date is still the 28th January. Hopefully, it will actually ship on this date.

Can't wait for people to start reviewing this thing..

[Platform]

I am grateful that the eMacs have been discontinued. They are heavy! eMacs were just leftover pieces of G4 components and old faithful CRTs Apple just had to get rid of. CRTs just has to go. I'm glad they didn't decide on a G5 eMac... cause what's the point right? the iMac does all of that.

A budget Mac computer would be.. yes... the Mac Mini's. Good idea to 1) attract switchers with keyboards, mouse, and display... 2) use all of their G4 components (1.25 G4s).... 3) Push the LCD market and stop serving CRTs.... 4) prove that PCs aren't the only one making small ass computers. Schools will be using the iMac if needed as a eMac replacement. Mini Macs will be used to help support 3rd party LCD Screen companies and also help sell Mac's own LCDs. PowerMac G5 are at a low sale compared to the iMac, PowerBook, and iBooks. Which means, even if PowerMacs are sold well, the LCDs are definitely aren't selling too well comparatively. They needed to get that LCD market going. So it was a great job making the Mac Mini in an Aluminum casing maching a possible 20" Apple display. Plus the DVI cable, which kinda suggests... hmm it's a perfect fit for an Apple display.

Mac Mini's totally serve a "cool" factor... "Really it's that small?" or "my goodness the Cube idea is coming back and i'm sure you can stick a mac mini underneath a G4 Cube (WHICH YOU CAN!!)". But the specs or an eh... but lets not be too greedy here... it's a G4 1.25!! remember when you had a G4 500 and you were like... dude only a G4 1ghz can handle my graphics and record my music and do some good video editing.... IT does just that! With the specs which lies inbetween iBook and Powerbook, this is a powerful machine!

Expect some cool 3rd party addons i'm sure. With EyeTV gettin all famous with it's media center thang, i'm totally sure they will make a mini EyeTV mocking the same shape of the Mac Mini fitting perfectly underneath making your Mac Mini an Entertainment Center (aka... the presumed iHome). Imagine, a Mac Mini as your entertainment Center... that's insane! And a great look under your 42" LCD "silver" (must be matching), TV Screen. Bluetooh remote control... HD... It's going to be as hot as an iTrip on your iPod.

Mac Mini is going to be huge... or will be.

When did the eMac get dicountinued :confused:
Love the idea of the mac mini just hope that the G4 will last for several years :o

[Eastend]

Its good news that the Mini's are now shipping.

I'm in the UK and I ordered on the day of the announcement, my ship date is still the 28th January. Hopefully, it will actually ship on this date.

Can't wait for people to start reviewing this thing..

Go to barefeats.com for some test they did of the G4 cube, tower and Mini compared, it's interesting. Keep in mind that the Mini fits underneath the Cube it's that small.

Brian

[pmd]

I'm in the UK and I ordered on the day of the announcement, my ship date is still the 28th January. Hopefully, it will actually ship on this date.


That's reassuring to hear. I ordered at about 1am UK time that night -the UK store was unusable for hours that day. Mine still says the 28th of January too.

I wonder why European orders are going out after US orders? Oh, hang on, this is Apple we're talking about...

[retrospek]

That's reassuring to hear. I ordered at about 1am UK time that night -the UK store was unusable for hours that day. Mine still says the 28th of January too.

Tell me about it. Trying to order from the Apple UK Store on the day of the announcement was a nightmare.

Hopefully, we will both get the Mini shipped on the 28th...

[AidenShaw]

Doesn't a single user licence agreement, those supplied with the most basic version of OS', allow the software to be installed on as many machines as the user wishes, so long as only one version is running at anyone time?

For someone who works for a software company, I suggest you take the time to read the EULA

I suggest that you follow your own advice...

Here's the SLA for Panther:

http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosxpanther.html

2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.

A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time.

This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time.

You can find the Apple SLA's at http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/

Of particular note is the "Family Pack" license for 5 OS X installations.

http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosxfamily.html

Mac OS X Family Pack

ADDENDUM to Software License Agreement for Mac OS X

The first and second sentences of Section 2A of the Software License Agreement for Mac OS X are revised as follows:

A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-labeled computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household and used by persons who occupy that same household. By "household" we mean a person or persons who share the same housing unit such as a home, apartment, mobile home or condominium, but shall also extend to student members who are primary residents of that household but residing at a separate on-campus location. This license does not extend to business or commercial users.

The remainder of this Section 2 and all other terms and conditions of this Agreement remain in full force and effect.

It's also interesting that the above license specifically includes students while at university, but the Apple Store says that the family pack

"license does not extend to students who reside at a separate on-campus location or to business or commercial users."

(very bottom of page http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M9228LL/A)

[Firepyre]

That's reassuring to hear. I ordered at about 1am UK time that night -the UK store was unusable for hours that day. Mine still says the 28th of January too.

I wonder why European orders are going out after US orders? Oh, hang on, this is Apple we're talking about...

LOL! I'm also glad that we're getting the same quoted date, mine says the 28th as well. Hopefully that will be the Mac Mini, Shuffle and iWork suite all in one shot - hell, I would be glad to get any one of them at the moment! :D

[mimitche]

Jan 20, 2005 8:05 AM

On FedEx vehicle for delivery

ALEXANDRIA, VA


My mini-mac should be here within a few hours!!!

(Edited to add this is the first Mac I've bought in 10 years)

[griff]

Well, I'll have my Mini by the time I get home from work today.


Jan 20, 2005 7:54 AM

On FedEx vehicle for delivery



I love FedEx. UPS is the devil!

[mian]

Jan 20, 2005 8:05 AM

On FedEx vehicle for delivery

ALEXANDRIA, VA


My mini-mac should be here within a few hours!!!

(Edited to add this is the first Mac I've bought in 10 years)

Mine's out for delivery as well, but I'm not home. Might have to finish work at home today. :) I'll post photo's, xbench, etc when it arrives, if someone doesn't beat me to it.

[sneumann]

I ordered my mini with 512MB and Bluetooth as soon as I could after the Keynote, and Fedex says it's been delivered (8:58AM on 21-Jan). Too bad it'll be hours until I can get to it!

But kudos to Apple for actually getting them out on time. :)

[56nomad]

When I checked my tracking # this morning, it shows my mini in Indianapolis w/ a staus of "clearance delay". The delivery date is still 1/21. Anybody else have this or know what it means?

[jkelling]

I just got mine from Fedex now. It really is amazing how small it is. The packaging is VERY similar to that of the iPod.

Will report later to let you know how it works.

-- Jeff

[sblfilms]

I just got my mini unpacked. It's amazing how small it is!

I do wish they would use the sleek black boxes they have for my other mac stuff. The white box does look nice though.

[dicklacara]

When I checked my tracking # this morning, it shows my mini in Indianapolis w/ a staus of "clearance delay". The delivery date is still 1/21. Anybody else have this or know what it means?

You must have tracked it just after it arrived in Indianapolis.

at 7:44 Int'l Shipment release Indianapolis

This is just passing the shipment thru Customs (because it originated overseas)

[jkelling]

Alright. I have it shared on my kvm with my pc, and it works amazing well. Since my kvm was ps2, I had to purchase a belkin ps2->usb adapter, but it all works great.

This new mac is very cool. Although it is very small, the external power supply is actually about 1/4 the size of the whole computer.

Amazingly fast as well.

-- Jeff

[rogueimage]

Sorry to add a fluff post, but mine just arrived! Woohoo! Gonna videotape the opening ceremony. :D

[iKwick7]

So my fedex says estimated delivery 1-24-05 by 10:30 am.

I just woke up, went online to see where it was, and its IN FRONT OF MY DOOR.
I love you fedex!!! Too bad I have to go to class until 6 tonight, but I am so friggin happy right now. :)

[Gerg]

I just got in to work, and there's my box waiting for me (I had it shipped to me at work)! Guess I have something to do tonight! :D :D

[iJWC]

Alright. I have it shared on my kvm with my pc, and it works amazing well. Since my kvm was ps2, I had to purchase a belkin ps2->usb adapter, but it all works great.

This new mac is very cool. Although it is very small, the external power supply is actually about 1/4 the size of the whole computer.

Amazingly fast as well.

-- Jeff

Jeff,

Congrats, which configuration did you purchase? Mine is still a ways off.

[dicklacara]

Jan 20, 2005 8:17 AM On FedEX vehicle for delivery

Should be here in about 1/2 hoiur!

[kazmiekr]

I'm jealous, I ordered mine Jan 16th and have no idea when it is gonna come.

Where are the pics!!!

[JMT529]

Woohoo. I finally got my shipped confirmation from Apple this morning saying that it was shipped yesterday. I picked the free ground shipping, but Apple upgraded it to Overnight Priority for free, so it's gonna be there in 1.5 hours. Odd thing is that mine shipped from Ontario, California!!! I guess they have a stash of stock machines(I ordered the $599 model) being shipped from local locations?

[Hoffer]

I'm upset I didn't order mine right away. I was worried about being able to add ram myself. So, I waited until Monday(01/17) to order. That was when I finally decided I'd be able to get into it. The next day, of course, I see the video of the guy opening it. So, I was right the whole time that I could get into it.

Why didn't I order it right away?!?! I was configuring it as soon as the Apple Store came back online after the keynote, but was worried about the ram. :(

One thing I did get yesterday is the 1 gig ram from Crucial. I probably would have waited to order it if I knew the estimated ship date was in February. :( :( :( :(

[pmd]

A question for those lucky people who have a Mac mini already:

Does iLife 05 come on a seperate DVD in the box, or is it preinstalled and hidden away on the Software Restore disk (I assume there is one of those in the box)?

Just wondering about how easy it will be to install iLife 05 on my main Mac - I'm not likely to use it on the mini because it'll be acting as a server, and will only have a TV for output.

[0s and 1s]

Woohoo. I finally got my shipped confirmation from Apple this morning saying that it was shipped yesterday. I picked the free ground shipping, but Apple upgraded it to Overnight Priority for free, so it's gonna be there in 1.5 hours. Odd thing is that mine shipped from Ontario, California!!! I guess they have a stash of stock machines(I ordered the $599 model) being shipped from local locations?

Apple shipments have confused me before. When I ordered a Powerbook last year, it was shipped from China to Ontario, CA to the midwest and back to me in Los Angeles! I live 40min. away from Ontario, why ship it elsewhere? Heck, I would have driven there to pick it up!

[Hoffer]

Does iLife 05 come on a seperate DVD in the box, or is it preinstalled and hidden away on the Software Restore disk (I assume there is one of those in the box)?

Someone posted pictures of them opening their mini box above. 2 of the pictures had an iLife '05 CD sitting on the top. I'm assuming that CD came with the box and the guy hadn't bought it seperately.

[griff]

http://homepage.mac.com/cgriffiths76/macmini/PhotoAlbum23.html

It's up on Ebay right now :) I'm curious how desparate people are.

[iKwick7]

A question for those lucky people who have a Mac mini already:

Does iLife 05 come on a seperate DVD in the box, or is it preinstalled and hidden away on the Software Restore disk (I assume there is one of those in the box)?

Just wondering about how easy it will be to install iLife 05 on my main Mac - I'm not likely to use it on the mini because it'll be acting as a server, and will only have a TV for output.

It is on a separate dvd. :)

[iJWC]

Here are some photos of someone unpacking their Mini.

http://www.uneasysilence.com/mini/

[JMT529]

Here are some photos of someone unpacking their Mini.

http://www.uneasysilence.com/mini/

Thanks.

[iJWC]

I just called the Apple store in Legacy Village (Ohio). They said the Mini will be on sale at 9AM on Saturday. He wouldn't say on how many they had (company policy).

[clayj]

Just checked the Apple order status site, and my Mac mini has shipped! To be delivered tomorrow morning by 10:30 AM.

Even for a Windows guru, I'm pretty psyched.

[BowaSpam]

I just ordered:

Mac mini 1.25GHz,512MB DDR333 SDRAM, 40GB Ultra ATA drive,
SuperDrive, AirPort Extreme and BlueTooth Card.

This is just after getting a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop computer last summer.

I'm impressed with their hardware and operating system. I used to be a mac hater until I accidentily walked into an Apple store 3 years ago , and after I realzed where I was, started walking out until I saw the ibook and OS X.

It was love at first site. Haven't looked back since though I still love Dell too. But I think this mini model will put me there now. It will replace my desktop PC at home and I plan on using 100% Macintosh now!

Can't wait!

Pat

[jaw04005]

It has been two days since I recevied a tracking number, and FedEx has still not scanned my package...

No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet. Please try again later or contact Customer Service.

[0s and 1s]

I just received my Mac mini. Unfortunately, they sent me a ComboDrive 1.42, BT/AE when I asked and paid for a SuperDrive model! Oh well, this is going back on eBay since I'm saving for the iMac G5! Looks nice, though. Box is somewhat heavy. I'm tempted to open it but I can't!!!! :mad:

[scarr]

I ordered a 1.42/512 on the 11th, and my order is still open. I'm pretty sure the "delivery by the 22nd" thing is out the window. I'm a quasi-switcher as I'm reMacing (I've been using Macs since I was a wee one in the 80s, but stopped having access to one when I graduated and moved a few years ago), and I must say I'm not feeling the surfeit of warm fuzzies I was hoping for. :rolleyes:

Well, hopefully the jubilation when it arrives will make up for this. :)

Scarr

P.S. hello ;)

[jaw04005]

Well, Apple & FedEx have lost my Mac mini. Just got off the phone with the Apple Store, and the tracking number on my Apple Invoice and Shipping E-Mail do not match. The Apple Store is not sure as to which tracking number is legit, the one on my invoice actually does work with FedEx's website and shows a package coming from China to IN. However, they are cautious as to if that is actually my package or not. Go figure, the Apple Store is going to contact FedEx, and see whats going on.

No Mac mini for me tommorow that is for sure.

[josr]

Hello guys, please post reviews asap.... How is performance? How is the 2.5" disc performing?

Thanks!

[jkelling]

Jeff,

Congrats, which configuration did you purchase? Mine is still a ways off.

I got the 1.4GHZ and added a SuperDrive. Kinda wish now I had gotten the wireless networking/bluetooth option. At least I should still be able to add them on. Going to Fry's now to get 1GB of memory for it and upgrade it
:D

-- Jeff

[mian]

Hello guys, please post reviews asap.... How is performance? How is the 2.5" disc performing?

Thanks!

Here are my xbench scores

Results 105.34
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.7 (7T21)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model PowerMac10,1
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.25 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.25 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV280
Drive Type ST940110A
CPU Test 152.63
GCD Loop 147.64 5.77 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 155.15 561.07 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 152.01 4.42 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 156.72 2.43 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 151.95 6.08 Mops/sec
Thread Test 110.90
Computation 79.94 1.08 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 181.03 2.27 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 137.04
System 155.78
Allocate 808.63 527.47 Kalloc/sec
Fill 169.67 1350.56 MB/sec
Copy 82.46 412.30 MB/sec
Stream 122.33
Copy 121.34 886.99 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 123.18 909.04 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 124.90 799.38 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 120.00 733.17 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 164.27
Line 126.98 3.23 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 148.81 10.47 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 154.71 3.57 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 160.82 1.75 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 316.46 5.16 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 112.37
Spinning Squares 112.37 78.64 frames/sec
User Interface Test 219.55
Elements 219.55 70.62 refresh/sec
Disk Test 41.59
Sequential 30.46
Uncached Write 15.38 6.41 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 73.68 30.17 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 25.48 4.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 74.08 29.93 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 65.55
Uncached Write 57.24 0.86 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 65.91 14.87 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 67.40 0.44 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 73.82 15.19 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[blackomega]

Just got a shipping notice for my mini around noon. Stock 1.42/80/Combo configuration.

Origin is Middletown PA. I guess Apple has been stockpiling off-the-shelf models for a while now.

Eitherway, FedEx says delivery tomorrow by 4:30 [standard remarks for me, they usually come mid-day] ('paid' for Free Shipping, shows as Express Overnite. Thanks Apple!).

Can't wait.

FYI, I'm using a Belkin USB KVM. Get decent results switching between my PC and my Tablet, we'll see how it handles the lil' Mac.

[takao]

boy i was already happy when i saw my order going from "under review" to "open" a whole week after i put my order up ..those banks deserve a serious kick for thsoe slow wire transfers

still 3-4 weeks remaining untill it ships...i hope that stays this way

[0s and 1s]

Can anyone confirm that I can actually use this with a TV as my monitor? I spoke with the genius here at the Apple Store and he told me I could. I know you COULD use it to view photos and video, but I want it to use as my only "everyday" monitor. Some have said that the text is blurry, if that's the case, then it's pointless to use. I'm ready for the iMac G5. I'll keep this if I could use my TV. For reference, it's Sony 34XBR910.

Thanks!

[josr]

Here are my xbench scores

Results 105.34

....cut....


Benchmarks doesn't say much. How does it feel??? Is it pretty fast or is it responding slow.???

Is it BETTER than expected, or worse?

What's your first opinion?

[BowaSpam]

It has been two days since I recevied a tracking number, and FedEx has still not scanned my package...

No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet. Please try again later or contact Customer Service.


Give it a couple days, that kind of thing happens all the time at Dell. I'm guessing they are back logged at the warehouse.

[azentropy]

I received mine this morning, well at least one of mine. Funny thing was - was the FedEX gal was looking through here stuff for a good couple of minutes. When she came to the door she asked if there was supposed to be another package? I said I ordered two but according to Apple only one shipped. The package said 1 of 1, but she said it had a master invoice or something like that that led her to believe there should be another package. She said she had another one in the truck, but that it was for someone else around the corner! Guess I'll see if my other one ships here in the next day or so...

Some observations...

- Unit is really tiny, but power brick is kinda big.
- Very quiet in normal use, but got quite a bit louder when running Handbrake ;-)
- Seems quite snappy performance wise. My numbers were almost exactly what barefeats.com posted except my video scores were all about 10% higher.
- This is still with 256MB... going to try to open it up here in a bit to put in a bigger stick.
- not specific to the Mac mini, but VGA sucks on my Dell 20" LCD. MUCH MUCH better in DVI... guess I'll have to get a DVI switchbox rather than an VGA one (I was then just going to manually switch the inputs on the Display but use the switchbox to switch my keyboard mouse).

[mian]

Benchmarks doesn't say much. How does it feel??? Is it pretty fast or is it responding slow.???

Is it BETTER than expected, or worse?

What's your first opinion?

I have a 1GHz 12" powerbook (Rev. b) and a 700 MHz iMac. The new Mac mini is very similar to my powerbook. It doesn't seem sluggish and it is what I was expecting. I'll know more when I run some more apps. iLife 4 is preloaded and I haven't had a chance to load version 5.

[legacyb4]

Amazing how many people have ordered them despite all the ruckus about the latest line of laptops "still" being G4, etc.

I guess for that price, you really can't beat that deal!

[dicklacara]

I have a 1GHz 12" powerbook (Rev. b) and a 700 MHz iMac. The new Mac mini is very similar to my powerbook. It doesn't seem sluggish and it is what I was expecting. I'll know more when I run some more apps. iLife 4 is preloaded and I haven't had a chance to load version 5.

I have:

1 GHz 1 GB RAM 60 GB HDD PB 17",

1.42 GHz 1 GB RAM 80 GB HDD Mini 23" Studio Display

1.8 GHz 2 GB RAM 250 GB HDD iMac G5 20 "

The Mini performs somewhere between the PB and the iMac-- as one would expect

[azentropy]

Opening the case was just as described/shown in the video. It is a little tricky the first time, makes a disconcerting sound, and leaves some scrap plastic - but works.

Replacing the memory was very easy, although the one side of the DIMM clip is blocked from going completely down (to pop out the DIMM) by the shied in the back. It still came out ok.

The hardest part I found was putting the case back together... The first dozen or so tries I kept getting the back not lined up properly. The shielding was not slipping behind the case easily. This might have been made worse by the Airport Antenna hookup. I found that putting it back together all sides at a time worked much better rather than trying to do the front or back first...

Also remember to blow out any of the scrap plastic that is formed when opening the case...

[Lacero]

Why doesnt Apple provide screws for their minis instead of having to use a broad knife and the possibilities of scratching the plastic. They carried this same design strategy from their iPod and Ipod minis.

[azentropy]

Opening the case was just as described/shown in the video. It is a little tricky the first time, makes a disconcerting sound, and leaves some scrap plastic - but works.

Replacing the memory was very easy, although the one side of the DIMM clip is blocked from going completely down (to pop out the DIMM) by the shied in the back. It still came out ok.

The hardest part I found was putting the case back together... The first dozen or so tries I kept getting the back not lined up properly. The shielding was not slipping behind the case easily. This might have been made worse by the Airport Antenna hookup. I found that putting it back together all sides at a time worked much better rather than trying to do the front or back first...

Also remember to blow out any of the scrap plastic that is formed when opening the case...

Forgot to mention - the 256MB DIMM that came with it IS a PC3200.

[iKwick7]

Can anyone confirm that I can actually use this with a TV as my monitor? I spoke with the genius here at the Apple Store and he told me I could. I know you COULD use it to view photos and video, but I want it to use as my only "everyday" monitor. Some have said that the text is blurry, if that's the case, then it's pointless to use. I'm ready for the iMac G5. I'll keep this if I could use my TV. For reference, it's Sony 34XBR910.

Thanks!

no reason you shouldn't be able to, in fact, thats what I am doing. I purchased the DVI to video converter and am hooking her up via S-video to me tv right now. Will let you know how it goes.

[tubedogg]

Forgot to mention - the 256MB DIMM that came with it IS a PC3200.Why would they use PC3200 if it only runs at PC2700? Surely it would increase their margin to not use more expensive RAM?

[cygni]

Opening the case was just as described/shown in the video.
Hi, what video is this? could you post a link please? :)

[tubedogg]

Hi, what video is this? could you post a link please? :)
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=105812&highlight=quicktime+mini

[cygni]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=105812&highlight=quicktime+mini
cool. thank you. :)

[micvog]

Why would they use PC3200 if it only runs at PC2700? Surely it would increase their margin to not use more expensive RAM?

According to AI, it is just a supply issue and Apple will be using a combination of both PC2700 and PC3200.

[baummer]

http://www.macworld.com/2005/01/news/macminihandson/

[tubedogg]

Speaking of AI, should this bit in their report today trouble me?
...the first batch of minis to leave Foxconn's manufacturing facilities in Asia are reportedly running a custom build of Mac OS X 10.3.7 (build 7T21).
This is the first I've heard of this...does it mean anything in regards to upgrading to 10.3.8 or Tiger when the time comes? Or is this standard for new models introduced between OS releases?

[dicklacara]

Speaking of AI, should this bit in their report today trouble me?

This is the first I've heard of this...does it mean anything in regards to upgrading to 10.3.8 or Tiger when the time comes? Or is this standard for new models introduced between OS releases?



Not to worry. when they package any new machine, they have to cutoff the software at some point-- so this is just necessary for any given production run.

The first thing that happens when you boot your mini is it checks software update for all the latest fixes/versions-- apply these and you are running the current level of Apple software,

As others have said-- Tiger runs just fine (I would expect it to)

[rogueimage]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.

Edit: Realized the text on the software CD packet isn't quite legible. It reads, "Designed by Apple in California." I didn't show it in the video, but the picture on the front of the box has a caption which reads, "Actual Size." :D

[tubedogg]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.
Very nice :D

[gotmac1]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.

Very cool and great music too!

[iKwick7]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.

very nice....

and now I just bought that song on iTunes. :)

[aswitcher]

Very good.

Wow that power brick aint small. How does it compare to the Mac Mini is size...and how long is the cable between them?

[MmmPancakes]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.

What a great movie. Thanks for sharing! Can't believe how big the power pack is.

[amberashby]

no reason you shouldn't be able to, in fact, thats what I am doing. I purchased the DVI to video converter and am hooking her up via S-video to me tv right now. Will let you know how it goes.

You will go blind. Text will be way too blurry. Only good for pictures and movies.

[iKwick7]

You will go blind. Text will be way too blurry. Only good for pictures and movies.

I'd have to disagree..... especially since I am typing this on my mini that is hooked up to me tv. I, personally, have no problems with it at all. Looks fine to me.

[rogueimage]

Very good.

Wow that power brick aint small. How does it compare to the Mac Mini is size...and how long is the cable between them?

Thanks! The power brick is the same length, a bit over a third the width, and a bit shorter than the Mini. The cable between the Mini and the brick is about 6 feet (2m), and the cable between the brick and the wall plug is about the same length.

[0s and 1s]

I'd have to disagree..... especially since I am typing this on my mini that is hooked up to me tv. I, personally, have no problems with it at all. Looks fine to me.
Hmmm....at what resolution do you have it? What kind of TV? I am using my sony 34xbr910 with a dvi cable. I'll give s-video a chance tomorrow. how much was the connector?

[retrospek]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.



Thanks for sharing. I can't wait until mine arrives....

[FYA]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.
:D

Nice work man, nice tune as-well.

[amberashby]

I'd have to disagree..... especially since I am typing this on my mini that is hooked up to me tv. I, personally, have no problems with it at all. Looks fine to me.

Now I have used my Mac hooked up to a 50 inch Samsung DLP with DVI input. That was awesome. What kind of TV do you have?

[iKwick7]

Hmmm....at what resolution do you have it? What kind of TV? I am using my sony 34xbr910 with a dvi cable. I'll give s-video a chance tomorrow. how much was the connector?

I kept the res. at 800 x 600 to keep the text a good sze. The video connector was 19.99, they sell it at the apple store (I bought it from CompUsa).

[iKwick7]

Now I have used my Mac hooked up to a 50 inch Samsung DLP with DVI input. That was awesome. What kind of TV do you have?

Not quite sure on the size, I'd say its around a 32 inch. My brother sold it to me for an insanely good deal when he bought his 42 inch HD widescreen. :)
My tv isn't high def, but its resolution is definately better than any tv I have looked at. It's a Panasonic. I'll have to find some more info on it. I'd say it's probably about 2 years old.

[jaw04005]

Three days since Mac mini was shipped, Apple has no idea where it shipped from nor where the package actually is. FedEx has yet to locate it either. Starting to get a little annoyed...

Maybe it will just show up today, despite not being "found" in their system.

:(

[jaw04005]

FedEx just called! They found it! On route for delivery today!

[RealDeal]

guess not quick enough- mid feb delivery- anyone yet making cool backpacks for a mini with Apple keyboard and a bunch of books/papers?

[ender78]

guess not quick enough- mid feb delivery- anyone yet making cool backpacks for a mini with Apple keyboard and a bunch of books/papers?


I saw a note, cant remember where for just a bag for the Mini. Wont work for me as like you state, I need something that will hold the keyboard.

[geeyesgee]

anyone yet making cool backpacks for a mini with Apple keyboard and a bunch of books/papers?

I wonder how they would handle this in an airport where they ask you to turn on your laptop. If there is no screen, how can they tell it's a functioning computer?

[wdlove]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.

Edit: Realized the text on the software CD packet isn't quite legible. It reads, "Designed by Apple in California." I didn't show it in the video, but the picture on the front of the box has a caption which reads, "Actual Size." :D

Nice job with the QuickTime Movie. Thank you for sharing Tim. ;)

[clayj]

GOT MINE!

Setup was quite simple, and I'm playing with it now. One (positive) error: It appears that the maximum resolution when using VGA is 1920 x 1200, not 1920 x 1080 as originally claimed. And it flawlessly picked up my Microsoft USB wireless keyboard and mouse, which was nice.

More news to follow as I continue investigating...

[Scarpad]

GOT MINE!

Setup was quite simple, and I'm playing with it now. One (positive) error: It appears that the maximum resolution when using VGA is 1920 x 1200, not 1920 x 1080 as originally claimed. And it flawlessly picked up my Microsoft USB wireless keyboard and mouse, which was nice.

More news to follow as I continue investigating...

Have Fun. THe more of these reports I hear the more I bum mine still says 2-14 on or before.

[jkelling]

Upgrading the memory.

Got the MacMini yesterday, and successfully upgraded my memory to 1GB. Went to Fry's and got a PC2700 1GB module. The brand is Patriot Memory, and the price was 169.99 (sku 4083642 for those that care).

Getting the case open was tricky. I gave up 3 times before I got the courage to do it. You do use a putty knife as in the video, but your really need a couple of butter knives to hold open the areas you have already pry'd up.

Once open, the memory came out easy, and it was easy to put in the replacement one.

Getting the case closed, was just as tricky as opening it. There are metal fingers all along the back side where the accessories plug in, and they are very hard to line up. It took me about 15 minutes to close it, but once I finally got it. I was set.

Fired it up, and it now shows 1GB in the system information - and by the way, it is MUCH faster.

-- jeff

[Deefuzz]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:

It's on my .Mac site here: http://homepage.mac.com/timnolte/iMovieTheater23.html.

Edit: Realized the text on the software CD packet isn't quite legible. It reads, "Designed by Apple in California." I didn't show it in the video, but the picture on the front of the box has a caption which reads, "Actual Size." :D

Very cool vid man! Great tune also!

Thanks!

[MacNeXT]

Just finished an iMovie of unpacking my Mac Mini... using the Mini, of course! :cool:


Thanks, cool video! Reminds me of unpacking my iBook... Walking to the front door everytime I thought the delivery van stopped at the front of my house... Saying "Thanks!" to the delivery guy, who replied "Have fun with it"... Feeling butterflies in my stomach while opening the box... Aaah...

I think I'll buy a Mini at the end of this year, when I return from my internship abroad. I've already pictured myself walking into an Apple store, asking "I would like to buy a Mini Mac please", paying out in cash, putting it in my backpack, taking it home, opening box....

What a geek I am...

[iPost]

I'd have to disagree..... especially since I am typing this on my mini that is hooked up to me tv. I, personally, have no problems with it at all. Looks fine to me.

The reason text is not as sharp on regular TVs is because regular TVs use an "interlaced scan" to render the display. Each frame is actually split into two parts that requires two cycles to display. All odd numbered horizontal lines are drawn to the screen first, then on the next pass, the even numbered horizontal lines are drawn. This two-pass, line fill-in approach is what makes text look blurry.

On computer monitors and HDTV (with progressive scan), the lines on the screen are all drawn continuously (from top to bottom) in one pass. This "progressive scan" is what makes text and video look sharp.

The Mac Mini provides two video connections: S-video and composite. These are both interlaced scan technologies. S-video provides a better picture than the composite connector (due to better color separation), but neither come close to the computer/HDTV displays we are accustomed to with progressive scan. In other words, expect blurry text.

It would be great if Apple offered a progressive scan component video cable (like progressive scan DVD players do). If they did, you'd be able to hook your Mac Mini up to an HDTV and get a display comparable to a computer monitor.

For info on interlaced vs. progressive scan: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-5020359-1.html

For info on TV connection cables: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6463_7-5020551-1.html

[dejo]

The Mac Mini provides two video connections: S-video and composite.

I think you forgot the two video connections that come out of the box: DVI and VGA.

[JoeMocha]

This is my first brand new Mac, after years of buying used. I ordered it on Friday night with Apple Credit and I am down right giddy. I do not know what to expect. They are saying 3-4 weeks with a five day ship; which I hope will be shorter.

[fsck3r]

Anyone with an open shipdate of 2/15/05 recieve any shipping notices?

[BowaSpam]

I'd like to see a thread where people could list the day they ordered and the day they received their Mac Mini. This way we could tell where Mac stood on shipments.

[rdowns]

I'd like to see a thread where people could list the day they ordered and the day they received their Mac Mini. This way we could tell where Mac stood on shipments.

Search forum for the older iMac G5 Now Shipping thread. Might want to have some antacids on hand.

[robbieduncan]

Anyone with an open shipdate of 2/15/05 recieve any shipping notices?

I have a shipping date of 11 Feb and no shipping notice yet (and none expected till at least the 4th Feb). You'll just have to be patient and wait!

[robbieduncan]

I saw a note, cant remember where for just a bag for the Mini. Wont work for me as like you state, I need something that will hold the keyboard.

I think you are referring to this (http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/_all/TB0351).

[ender78]

I ordered on the eve of Jan 12 and like all non US apple store customers, have a Jan 28th ship date. Anyone in Europe or Canada receive their shipping notice yet ?

Now my Bluetooth keyboard apparently already shipped on the 12th although I have yet to see it. It shipped via "Same Day Right Away". I cant find this company anywhere on the web to take a look at what is up with my package.