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mac15
Sep 6, 2002, 12:23 AM
I was browsing throught the discussions at apple.com and it also on resexellence.com

http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?50@248.cjj8aT0bd26.1@.3bb9d658


after doing that my system has jumped to normall pass, now I feel the real jaguar speed



mac15
Sep 6, 2002, 01:00 AM
all I have to say is wow, the speed pickup is insane, its a must for everybody

SilvorX
Sep 6, 2002, 01:15 AM
tsk tsk tsk, n u usually tell me the stuff u find out (tidbits) bout mac os :P
u were saying that jaguar felt faster already anyways :S lol

mac15
Sep 6, 2002, 01:18 AM
it did, yet I also told you it was sluggish on occassions

krossfyter
Sep 6, 2002, 01:23 AM
so even if one has done a clean install and follows the instruction that would work right?

8thDegreeSavage
Sep 6, 2002, 02:12 AM
I did a clean originally and just did this...it cut my boot time (from dead mind you) from about 3 minutes total...to one minte...and my apps are flying open!...amazing!


Jag 6D44
867 QS
768 ram



Great advice!

ShaolinMiddleFinger
Sep 6, 2002, 02:56 AM
Well, I ran it, I only gave me about 10 seconds quicker for startup time. Roughly 1 minute 37 seconds on a iBook 500 with 384 ram....

Nipsy
Sep 6, 2002, 03:37 AM
That's a damn fine tip!

TheCat
Sep 6, 2002, 03:54 AM
i'm amazed!! But how can something like this get by Apple? No one and i mean no one would ever stumble across this 'fix'.
Do the new dual machines suffer with this? esp as they come with Jaguar pre-installed (so i'm told)

Thanks 4the tip! :)

ShaolinMiddleFinger
Sep 6, 2002, 04:04 AM
Alright....for the next group of people that try this.... why don't you time your boot up time before you try the fix then do the fix and then time it again....see exactly how much more time you gain..... Mine was just 10 seconds. Also state what kind of Mac you have and how much Ram you installed.

mac15
Sep 6, 2002, 04:34 AM
I shaved 8 secs of mine

before it , it was 48secs
now 40secs

I'm amazed

and most apps launch 2 bounces less that before

Nipsy
Sep 6, 2002, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by ShaolinMiddleFinger
Alright....for the next group of people that try this.... why don't you time your boot up time before you try the fix then do the fix and then time it again....see exactly how much more time you gain..... Mine was just 10 seconds. Also state what kind of Mac you have and how much Ram you installed.

I don't care about boot time, as I only do it once a month or so, but I do like the increased Finder response when dealing with 2000+ file folders, the massive load time reductions in iTunes (54 seconds to 18 seconds with 34,000 songs), and the better responsiveness in the Terminal.

Gelfin
Sep 6, 2002, 05:03 AM
Only about 10s improvement for me as well on my PB667, but the improvement you see is obviously going to be dependent on how horked your permissions are to start with. The guy who was seeing three minute startup times on his QS867 was obviously having more problems than most. My PB took about a minute (from chime to login screen) before the permission fixes. Jaguar startup times were already pretty screamy for me.

Beej
Sep 6, 2002, 05:25 AM
Sensational!
My boot time went from a mediocre 1:13 to a blazingly fast 1:11!
My shut down time went from a whopping 41s to an amazing 39s!
My overall system snappiness has increased a phenomenal 0%!

Whoopee!

My machine is a 933 w/ 1 GB RAM.



OK, so this little tip was useless to me, but hey, keep 'em coming. I'm willing to give anything a shot.

Plus, I enjoyed reading my Australian MacWorld for 10 minutes while my permissions were being repaired. :)

If I restart 150 times I might even make that 10 minutes of my life back! :D

mac15
Sep 6, 2002, 06:04 AM
well sorry beej :D

the finder is alot faster, I got a folder with 1500 files and it moves very smooth, and like I said also app launch has massively improved

Mr. Anderson
Sep 6, 2002, 08:10 AM
and how exactly are you measuring the non boot related performance increase?

F/reW/re
Sep 6, 2002, 09:31 AM
Same as before, 1,25 on my iBook 500MHz w/384 MB RAM.

sphereboy
Sep 6, 2002, 10:18 AM
..much faster start up time for sure.

Thanks for the tip.

MacBandit
Sep 6, 2002, 10:26 AM
Anything that will knock 3 seconds off the startup time of my new Dual/DDR is a serious improvement. From hitting the power button to login screen is now less then 30secs.

macstudent
Sep 6, 2002, 10:44 AM
on my ibook700 640MB RAM the startup used to be 1 min 30sec, now it is just under one minute.

This is quite an amazing trick!!

sparkleytone
Sep 6, 2002, 11:31 AM
boot time has got the be the most idiotic "benchmark" i have ever heard of. who gives a ****ing **** how fast it boots?? i don't. my computer is on all the time anyways. i expect it to be fast when its FINISHED booting, i could care less if it took 5 minutes to boot. this is UNIX people, get over it.

SilvorX
Sep 6, 2002, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by sparkleytone
boot time has got the be the most idiotic "benchmark" i have ever heard of. who gives a ****ing **** how fast it boots?? i don't. my computer is on all the time anyways. i expect it to be fast when its FINISHED booting, i could care less if it took 5 minutes to boot. this is UNIX people, get over it.
ok, i'll have fun waiting 10 min for the puter booting up/shutting down :P jk

some ppl like fast bootups n then theres ppl who dont give a damn if their boot up is 20 seconds or 20 min...

sphereboy
Sep 6, 2002, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by sparkleytone
boot time has got the be the most idiotic "benchmark" i have ever heard of. who gives a ****ing **** how fast it boots?? i don't. my computer is on all the time anyways. i expect it to be fast when its FINISHED booting, i could care less if it took 5 minutes to boot. this is UNIX people, get over it.

I love fast boot ups.. while your still waiting im finished.

MacBandit
Sep 6, 2002, 09:39 PM
I refuse to leave my computer on unless I'm using it. It's noisy (I can't sleep with constant hum and whirs) and draws power. I shut my computer down if I'm not going to be using it for an hour. That's why I like fast startup. My B/W G3 400 took about a minute and a half to startup with any system. My new Dual Ghz/DDR can be at the finder in 30secs. That's awesome.