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imct
Jan 5, 2002, 03:36 PM
A couple of days ago I paid a visit to Steve Wozniak's site, went to his personal webcam page http://wozcam.woz.org/ and I zoomed in on the desk. Surprise... I found what seemed to be a user manual with an Apple logo... it was a small white bookled, with a big title "GAME ROOM"... could that be the new digital lifestyle appliance??



kishba
Jan 5, 2002, 04:11 PM
i just saw it on his desk and took screen caps!

http://www.kishba.com/pic1.jpg

http://www.kishba.com/pic2.jpg

and the best

http://www.kishba.com/pic3.jpg

eyelikeart
Jan 5, 2002, 04:17 PM
quite interesting....

could it be something pertaining to Apple's Headquarters though?

kishba
Jan 5, 2002, 04:18 PM
before anyone starts saying these are fake please go to the woz cam yourself and you will see it sitting on the right of woz's g4 keyboard

iCinder
Jan 5, 2002, 04:19 PM
I sincerely hope apple is not thinking of making a game system

kishba
Jan 5, 2002, 04:21 PM
i'm pretty sure its software... there is a cd sleeve face down next to the "game room" booklet

the booklet seems a little old because of the simple black apple logo... the last few booklets i've gotten from apple have some sort of color logo or a logo with a drop shadow

iCinder
Jan 5, 2002, 04:25 PM
I can imagine Woz's giddy laugh as Job's is telling him how to have a little fun with us by planting that booklet there.

adidasx2004
Jan 5, 2002, 04:36 PM
and the fact that woz has "in" on the trash can isnt help his creadibilty (SP?) either, lol

JOHNGAETANO
Jan 5, 2002, 04:37 PM
First of all, I would love to know how you control that stupid web cam. Everytime I would get it to where I wanted it, it would move.

This guy obviosly left this book and disks out in plain site so we could see them. What could this game room be? Somekind of web site/software?????

imct
Jan 5, 2002, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by adidasx2004
and the fact that woz has "in" on the trash can isnt help his creadibilty (SP?) either, lol


:-) i get your point...
anyway, woz has always had that "in" sign on his trash, it's not new at all.

dricci
Jan 5, 2002, 04:41 PM
Are you sure that's a book? Looks more like a wall sign to me, like something he'd hang up next to the door to his game room.

adidasx2004
Jan 5, 2002, 04:43 PM
I think that where no pc has gone before is : bringing togeather thaousands of it's users to talk about their love for it, and to have them discuss it (probably not..). Someone at apple should be givin a nobel prize for best marketing on earth tho.

iCinder
Jan 5, 2002, 04:45 PM
Dricci is right, now that i look at it it doesn't look like a book but more like a plaque... weird

kishba
Jan 5, 2002, 04:48 PM
it does look like something that would be put on the door of an office... maybe when he left he got to keep it

but why is it on his desk?

XUser
Jan 5, 2002, 04:50 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that isn't a manual. Its the room tag from the wall outside of one of the conference rooms at the Apple Cupertino campus.

In Infinite Loop 2, 4th floor, there is conference room with the name "Game Room.'" That is the label tag from outside the room. I would recognize one of those things anywhere. Now, why Woz has that particular one on his desk is somewhat of a mystery (he probably just liked the name).

Yuk-Monkey
Jan 5, 2002, 04:50 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a sign you would stick on a door, not a booklet. Take a close look, do you see any pages. Normally if you had been flipping through a little booklet like that it would curl up a little on the edges after you had been reading it and not sit perfecly flat. And if it was something new and great how could you resist looking through it????? :)

adidasx2004
Jan 5, 2002, 04:50 PM
i dont no if there is a chat on this site, but if you have yahoo messenger go to chat-computers and internet (user rooms) and then macworld sf 2001 chat

Some Guy
Jan 5, 2002, 04:51 PM
Apple is using "viral marketing" to promot what is probably a much better Expo than the last one (which isn't that hard to do).

Basically Apple plants hints on its web site, but does not give any concrete details or anything.

Someone somewhere picks it up and runs with it, fueling wild speculation. SpyMac.com throws out more fake Apple product info with faked video/stills that are so obviously fake its not even funny.

Remember the iPod? The invites certainly did garner a lot more press then announcing an MP3 player would otherwise get. Granted the iPod is the coolest MP3 player/FireWire hard drive ever (well okay is the ONLY one like it). At CompUSA it seemed to be the only one that was working and actually usable. All the rest look like Star Trek reject props.

The viral marketing technique was used for that movie A.I. that flopped when people found out it was really dark and depressing.

The very bottom line is EVERYONE is talking about Apple even though they have NOT announced ANY new product or change in strategy or merger or whatever else people are guessing will happen.

This performance should get some type of award in the least for being the most effective "buzz" generation by any company even outdoing Windoze XP's intro (yawn, if it could really make me fly I'd buy it).

Home_Slice
Jan 5, 2002, 04:53 PM
It does have page depth and on the left hand side of the booklet ot has a crease from where the spine of the book would be. I am also intrested about the post when tech tv said the words...."Home Entertainment appliance"

Moby 1
Jan 5, 2002, 04:54 PM
Could somebody tell me what font "Game Room" is in?

I really like it.
It looks like the font they use in The Village ; )

Why doesn't Woz just leave a booklet entitled
"Apple Stategies on Warp Propulsion Public Dispersal" or "Apple Approved Fission Materials for PPC 7700 Family" on his desk?

My guess: Maybe a seating chart for MacWorld VP's?

Moby 1

iCinder
Jan 5, 2002, 04:55 PM
From now on I am taking the stance that Apple is not introducing anything new on Monday. That way there is no way i will be dissapointed. :)

wes
Jan 5, 2002, 04:56 PM
Okay, okay...did you guys check out the rest of his site...I have not been there in a while, but from a past visit, I remember he used to have a camera that could view his own peronal arcade room...this room had a bunch of pinball machines and old video games when I last visited. Don't you think this is simply a plaque that he is going to put on the door to his own personal "game room" ala Woz-Arcade?

It could be a Woz joke...the man supposedly loves jokes. And, with all of this heated MacWorld rumor, well, if I was in his shoes with a web cam and an eager audience, I think it would be fun to mess with all of our heads.

We'll just have to wait until Monday.

--Wes

adidasx2004
Jan 5, 2002, 04:56 PM
aim:GoChat?RoomName=Macworld+SF+2002 <-new AIM chat room

johnpaul191
Jan 5, 2002, 04:57 PM
it looks like a plastic sign to me... even looks like the letters are engraved..... maybe it was left there on purpose, or just happened to be there, but either way i'm sure he'll love the speculation.

this following last weeks assumption that his gameboy is the new Apple secret product.look at it this way.... someone gives Woz a secret new Apple device to play with, one that no rumor site has really been set on, would he be playing with it in fron of the webcam? doubt it. Steve and friends have to be loving the fact that nobody is REALLY sure what to expect. i am ruling out the iWalk at this point.... but even the cube was leaked, so was the iPod..... the only safe assumption is *something* we see monday will be getting those 100,000 new flat panels.

eyelikeart
Jan 5, 2002, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Moby 1
Could somebody tell me what font "Game Room" is in?

I really like it.
It looks like the font they use in The Village ; )


maybe Geneva?

Moby 1
Jan 5, 2002, 05:35 PM
Very close to - but not Geneva...I need to get me some fonts on this thing (Ti 550)...

Moby 1

arn
Jan 5, 2002, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by adidasx2004
I think that where no pc has gone before is : bringing togeather thaousands of it's users to talk about their love for it, and to have them discuss it (probably not..). Someone at apple should be givin a nobel prize for best marketing on earth tho.

this is ironic you say that - since Apple has been notoriously bad at marketing good products

arn

Jeffsteel
Jan 5, 2002, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Moby 1
Could somebody tell me what font "Game Room" is in?

I really like it.
It looks like the font they use in The Village ; )



It's probably ITC Gorilla :)
(steves favourite)

GeneralAntilles
Jan 5, 2002, 05:45 PM
The font is Skia, love that font. This anticipation is bugging the hell out of me... Kinda' like when my Quicksilver 867 was in the mail for 2 weeks due to a credit card screw-up...

arn
Jan 5, 2002, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by GeneralAntilles
The font is Skia, love that font. This anticipation is bugging the hell out of me... Kinda' like when my Quicksilver 867 was in the mail for 2 weeks due to a credit card screw-up...

you should have built a cardbooard representation of the quicksilver. while waiting for it... :)

arn

mpmchugh
Jan 5, 2002, 05:55 PM
It looks like "Gil Sans" to me...

TenashusD
Jan 5, 2002, 06:09 PM
It's definitely Gil Sans.

kirknord
Jan 5, 2002, 06:32 PM
The font would be garamond book if it were a truly apple branded sign or booklet.

kiwi_the_iwik
Jan 5, 2002, 06:43 PM
Fascinating, isn't it - how this link has deteriorated into a banal discussion about the FONT of a PLAQUE.


Baaaahhhh!

kiwi_the_iwik
Jan 5, 2002, 06:45 PM
Come to think of it - why don't you build a cardboard replica of the sign for your door, too? ;)

Ninjamac
Jan 5, 2002, 06:54 PM
You know, it could be a key. To a gameroom at Apple.

macfreek57
Jan 5, 2002, 07:21 PM
adidasx2004

how do i join a chat?

marco114
Jan 5, 2002, 07:22 PM
Well at first I suspected it was Apple Garamond, but it is in fact Gil Sans. Nearly everything Apple's titles are are Apple Garamond. It would make me now think it is for sure a plaque and not a book.

Apple uses Apple Garamond on just about everything, including the titles on the website. The font was specifically designed for Apple and is a slightly modified version of Adobe's Garamond.

The nice thing about Apple's Font, is that it has probably close to a thousand more kerning pairs than the average font so when you bring the letters really close together, they look really nice.

I've had the font for nearly 8 years now when an advertising agency brought the font over to me for doing some print work at a print shop I worked at. the funny thing is, is that the piece was on Apple security talking about how to make sure that people don't get ahold of Apple's proprietary stuff, and I have had the font ever since.

Now the font is burried somewhere on Apple's FTP server, can't remember where.

-m



[Edited by marco114 on 01-05-2002 at 08:26 PM]

mpmchugh
Jan 5, 2002, 07:29 PM
The font being discussed is the one in the sign at the top of this thread, which is indeed Gil Sans.

Apple Garamond Book is Apple's official font, but it's not what's used in the sign on Woz's desk...

... which is what was being discussed.

-mpm

p.s. ...and for the person who said it couldn't be something official because it wasn't in Apple Garamond Book, that's not true. Though Apple is pretty strict about using Apple Garamond Book in marketing and product stuff, they, like many organizations, use other fonts for other purposes.

kirknord
Jan 5, 2002, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by marco114
Well at first I suspected it was Apple Garamond, but it is in fact Gil Sans. Nearly everything Apple's titles are are Apple Garamond. It would make me now think it is for sure a plaque and not a book.

Not to be snide or anything, but if you're going to confuse Gil Sans and any variation of garamond, you really don't know fonts all that well.

adfasdfdf
Jan 5, 2002, 08:41 PM
its a keycard, you retards

Gelfin
Jan 5, 2002, 08:59 PM
Heh. So apparently out of sheer frustration we've resorted to discussing an issue we actually have a slight chance to figure out (it is Gill Sans). :)

Personally if I were Woz I would be putting all sorts of weird things out on my desk right about now, like a toy Star Trek Tricorder, or a space flight training manual. I might put a single red wool mitten on my desk, with a cable coming out of it and running down to the floor behind the desk. I would take out a sheet of copier paper and write in orange magic marker, "Say Hello to iMarker," then leave the paper AND the marker out for all to see.

We'll know in about 40 hours now. :)

udannlin
Jan 5, 2002, 09:18 PM
maybe Geneva?

That font in GillSans. If you guys have ever been to the Apple headquarters, thats a wall sign for the Apple Game Room.

woodsey
Jan 5, 2002, 10:48 PM
HELP

Dose anyone know why i cant get the woz cam to work in either internet explorer, omni web, opera? All i get is a small black screen where the web cam should be with the time and date above it!

Suggestions?

iFlower
Jan 5, 2002, 11:02 PM
This particular item shown on Mr. Woz's desk appears to be either a door or a window sign that belongs to a public suite or conference room located at 1 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA 95014.

Perhaps this room/window sign may have fallen off and someone will eventually be reattaching this sign to it's appropriate location.

It does not appear to be any particular book, manual or guide. The font on the surface of the item in question appears to be either Geneva or Charcoal. Usually when Apple publishes an instruction manual or guide, it has a font using Apple's corporate typeface, called "Apple Garamond."

rickycourtney
Jan 5, 2002, 11:48 PM
Come on people this is cleary a piece of paper adheared to a piece of foam core board

its probaly one of woz's jokes an he will put it on his door to his game room but hasent gotten a chance....

an give it a rest WOZ IS NOT GONNA FLASH AROUND A NEW APPLE PRODUCT IN FRONT OF THE WORLD A WEEK BEFORE MWSF

Myself
Jan 6, 2002, 03:31 AM
DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT? IT IS A SIGN FOR A CONFERENCE ROOM AT APPLE HQ. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID SO HERE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TO THE APPLE CAMPUS AND SEEN IT, JUST LIKE MYSELF. WHY DO YOU KEEP DISCUSSING IT? DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?

gestalter
Jan 6, 2002, 05:20 AM
maybe ist the gill sans used with the newton ci...

frogmella
Jan 6, 2002, 06:29 AM
Steve: Hey, Woz, check out all the buzz I'm creating putting teasers on my web site!

Woz (laughing): That's cool, Steve. Do they mean anything?

Steve: Hell, no, but it's driving my customers crazy. Hey, why don't you put some sort of sign on your site to make them even more crazy?

Woz: Some sort of sign, eh.....?

Chun
Jan 6, 2002, 12:31 PM
Here's how you know that it isn't a manual for a new Apple product: the font is NOT Apple Garamond. As you know, that is the company's official font for their published materials like manuals. It's just Woz messin' wit' yo' head.

JaredEarle
Jan 6, 2002, 12:48 PM
If anyone is in doubt about the fonts, I've done a mockup of the "Game Room" sign:

http://23x.net/mockup.jpg

Hopefully, that should knock that one on the head...


[Edited by JaredEarle on 01-06-2002 at 01:57 PM]

Durandal7
Jan 6, 2002, 06:08 PM
What is with you people saying that it's a keycard? The thing is clearly twice the size of the CD sleeve sitting next to it.

tmac
Jan 6, 2002, 06:24 PM
I think all the Star Trek-like phrases are definitely related to IT ---- Here's why - I'm sure a bunch of you watch the show. You know how they always talk to the computer and it wirelessly controls their environment?

They tell the computer to turn on, dim, turn off the lights, prepare food, get into their quarters keylessly, make the room warmer or colder. And of course, the computer controls all their access to information and modes of entertainment.

So - basically, I'm for the digital hub theory. Apple is going to deliver a popular vision of the future that everyone will want.

Remember that super expensive, totally bloated Microsoft house of the future? Well I think apple's new innovation will enable the consumer to do something like that - but affordably, efficiently, and in style.

Durandal7
Jan 6, 2002, 06:43 PM
Just out of curiosity, what is that metal computer woz has on his desk? I didn't think the 20th Mac had that base on it.

MacAztec
Jan 6, 2002, 06:44 PM
No Game Room. That would be the dumbest thing Mac would have ever done. I think it would be even dumber than Gateways warrenties.

hotch
Jan 6, 2002, 11:41 PM
At 9:12 PM -0700 2002.01.06, Samuel W. Hotchkiss wrote:

>There's been some argumentation on http://macrumors.com/ about a plaque (or
>something) on your desk with "Game Room" on it... Would you mind clarifying?

Ha! Sorry that I don't have time for the rumor sites. A friend did drop it off and I'm trying to find the right place for it in my office.
--

Steve Wozniak (OK, a new size TV)

email <StevePGPkey@woz.org> for my public PGP encryption key