View Full Version : About the Mac OS X 10.2.1 Update
arn
Sep 16, 2002, 04:06 PM
The Applecare Knowledge Base article (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107036) details the new features of Mac OS 10.2.1... which hasn't yet been released.
Disc Burning Enhancements
Digital Hub and Peripheral Device Enhancements
Networking and Mail Enhancements
Printing Enhancements
Other Enhancements
The document provides details as to what the specific improvements are in each category.
arn
Sep 16, 2002, 04:07 PM
Disc Burning Enhancements
Improves compatibility of burned CDs with Microsoft Windows.
Addresses a situation that could result in a failure when burning a disc using iTunes 3 and a high burn speed.
Addresses an issue in which Disk Utility could inaccurately report "problems" when scanning a disc that was burned with iTunes or in the Finder.
Adds support for various third-party disc burners, including: TDK VeloCD 241032FP and 241040F, MCE Technologies Lucid-24 24x10x24x Portable FireWire CDRW Drive, LaCie PocketCDRW 24x10x24 U&I, EZQuest Boa CDR/w 48x12x48 FireWire, Formac cdrw 40x10x40 and cdrw 48x10x40.
Digital Hub and Peripheral Device Enhancements
Decreases the amount of time Final Cut Pro takes to open, and improves iMovie compatibility when a Sony DVMC-DA1 media converter is connected to the computer.
Improves iMovie compatibility with Canopus ADVC-100 media converter.
Improves compatibility with certain (SCSI-based) scanners.
Improves compatibility of Image Capture with Epson DS (TWAIN).
Improves results when scanning in grayscale or black-and-white with Image Capture and Epson UI.
Enhances reliability when hot-swapping a FireWire-based camera on certain iMacs using Final Cut Pro.
Addresses a potential issue in which a USB keyboard or mouse is not recognized or able to wake the computer after having been connected to or disconnected from an external USB hub while the computer is in sleep.
Networking and Mail Enhancements
Addresses a situation in which certain Internet service providers (ISPs) may not accept outgoing email (SMTP) from computers using NAT and a ".local" hostname (which may be assigned by Rendezvous).
Addresses a situation in which, if the connection fails when transferring email to your computer via your network or an Internet connection, all mail not transferred is lost.
Improves Mac OS X Server performance in heavy AFP client load situations.
Improves Mac OS X Server reliability when a Mac OS 9 client attempts a scheduled AFP connection.
Resolves a potential issue in which Mail could fail to import mail messages from Eudora as expected.
Printing Enhancements
Addresses a potential situation in which Print Center would unexpectedly quit when using St. Claire Software's Default Folder X.
Improves compatibility with HP LaserJet 4V and HP LaserJet 4MV printers.
Reduces occurrences of a potential "busy; source EIO (ATALK)" alert message when printing using AppleTalk via CUPS.
Addresses an issue when printing via CUPS in which the second queued print job would automatically start if the first print job was stopped.
Addresses a potential "error -1" message in Print Center when adding a third-party USB printer.
Includes various other CUPS-related printing enhancements.
Other Enhancements
Improves potential situations in which a Web page's graphics could take an unexpectedly long time to appear in a browser window.
Improves compatibility with Microsoft Entourage.
Reduces likelihood of a potential "ticking hard drive" symptom that could be caused by IOAudio errors regularly being written to the system.log file.
Addresses a potential issue in which Mac Help may not be available following an erase-installation.
Improves compatibility of the Universal Access Zoom feature with some iBook computers.
Addresses a potential situation in which no video may appear after waking certain iBook computers that are connected to an external display or presentation device.
Addresses a situation in which a Classic application may fail to produce sound after waking from sleep.
Addresses a potential situation in which AppleTalk may not be available in the Classic environment after waking from sleep.
Addresses various potential kernel panic situations
srobert
Sep 16, 2002, 04:57 PM
Hmmm... still not able to get mail off an exchange server.
I've been reading boards and surfing the net for weeks trying to find an OSX mail app that can work with windows exchange servers... no luck thus far. I'm pretty sure at this point that no apps can do this under OSX. Not even microsoft's entourage. Not good, that means that I can't install OSX on all our work stations. I managed to get my mail in classic but for a reason or another, I have to reconfigure outlook 2001 everytime. Webmail is a workaround for the moment but an unstylish one.
I loooooove OSX but it I need it to be able to get my mail in order to use it on my workputer. Anyone had better luck than me?
This message was only 46% topic complient. Please accept my most humble excuses. :p
Seb
Scab Cake
Sep 16, 2002, 05:08 PM
Last year, I was forced to use an exchange server extensively, and I never had a problem getting or sending mail via the exchange server. For instance, at ASU, the exchange server I had an account on was:
mainex1.asu.edu (or something like that.)
So, I created an IMAP account in Apple's Mail.app with that as the incoming mail server, and as the outgoing mail, I used
smtp.asu.edu
Login and password, as far as I remember, were standard and I didn't have to do anything special. See if that works.
HyperliteG4
Sep 16, 2002, 05:34 PM
as far as the exchange subject goes....i read this on ThinkSecret (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/outlookx3.html):
September 16, 2002 - Microsoft is not currently developing a Mac OS X-compatible version of its Outlook Exchange client, sources said.
Last year, Microsoft released Outlook 2001 for Mac, a milestone release which brought the Mac version of the popular corporate messaging/PIM client up to par with the Windows clients. It also helped to improve Apple's push in business environments using Exchange servers.
At the beginning of 2002, Think Secret reported that a release of Mac Outlook for OS X was unlikely, largely because of the time and resources it would require. In the ensuing months the issue became more cloudy. Microsoft, amid requests and a push from users, began considering a release and posted a survey pertaining to Mac Outlook and OS X.
In recent weeks, however, insiders speaking to Think Secret were quite clear. "There is no development on Outlook X," said one source. "Zero."
Instead, Microsoft reportedly wants to roll the Exchange compatibility into Entourage, the communications component of its four-application Office suite, which is already OS X compatible. While sources speculated that the integration of this functionality wouldn't be too difficult, security issues could be a roadblock.
This news confirms another article Think Secret posted in July, where we reported that Microsoft is toying with a new pricing scheme for Mac Office. In a survey commissioned by Microsoft's Macintosh Business Unit, the company sought opinions on three possible editions of Office: a Home Edition, Standard Edition, and Professional Version. The latter, according to the survey, would include "Exchange server compatibility." Pricing possibilities for the Professional Version, as suggested by the survey, ranged from $449 to $599.
"Microsoft is in the early stages of developing an Exchange-based solution," said a spokesperson for the company, who declined to provide further details.
Billicus
Sep 16, 2002, 05:57 PM
I find it hilarious that Apple posted the document, but the download is not yet avaliable. Hey, now we know what's going to be in 10.2.1. :D
scem0
Sep 16, 2002, 06:00 PM
Does this mean that it will be available within the next couple of hours, or just that they did this unawares.
GeeYouEye
Sep 16, 2002, 06:04 PM
Addresses a potential "error -1" message in Print Center when adding a third-party USB printer.
Am I paranoid, or does Apple not make USB printers? Could this (the third-party part, not the rest) be an indication that Apple is going to make printers again? Or have they always included the third party thing? Sorry if I'm being annoying, just trying to look at possibilities.
holmesf
Sep 16, 2002, 06:36 PM
Yay! They gave my CD burner compatibility!
Actually they put compatibility BACK. It worked fine with 10.1. Lousy bums...
srobert
Sep 16, 2002, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Scab Cake
Last year, I was forced to use an exchange server extensively, and I never had a problem getting or sending mail via the exchange server. For instance, at ASU, the exchange server I had an account on was:
mainex1.asu.edu (or something like that.)
So, I created an IMAP account in Apple's Mail.app with that as the incoming mail server...
This only work if the exchange server is configured for POP3 or IMAP, ours isn't. Also, POP3 or IMAP would't allow our mail client to use all the options like scheduling meetings and accessing co-workers agendas.
Well, seems that they might support exchange in the next entourage release but I don't expect an office x revision before next year.
Seb
Hemingray
Sep 16, 2002, 06:38 PM
Ahh, Apple, you guys are such a tease! I sure hope their "Addresses various potential kernel panic situations" includes my Sonnet Tempo ATA/100 card... please oh please...
jettredmont
Sep 16, 2002, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by srobert
Hmmm... still not able to get mail off an exchange server.
I don't have to live with an Exchange server these days, but it seems odd that you wouldn't be able to get mail off it. All Exchange servers I've worked with used the POP3 and/or IMAP protocols for mail, which Jaguar's built-in Mail app does with no problem. I do know that every Windows mail client I used (Eudora and Pegasys included) worked just fine with the Exchange POP3 service.
Might be an option for the Exchange admin to use POP3 instead of something proprietary. I've worked in two Exchange offices, though, and they both had POP3 enabled (I'm not sure if the first had IMAP as well, but the second did).
On the other hand, getting calendaring etc working with the Exchange server is nigh impossible in OS X, I am afraid.
ryan
Sep 16, 2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by srobert
This only work if the exchange server is configured for POP3 or IMAP, ours isn't. Also, POP3 or IMAP would't allow our mail client to use all the options like scheduling meetings and accessing co-workers agendas.
Well, seems that they might support exchange in the next entourage release but I don't expect an office x revision before next year.
Seb
Why don't you have them use Exchange Web mail?
That aside it is irritating that MS or somebody else hasn't developed a way to access Exchange through a Mac client.
ryan
Sep 16, 2002, 06:55 PM
Looks like the Apple article has been pulled.
meddle
Sep 16, 2002, 07:22 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by srobert
This only work if the exchange server is configured for POP3 or IMAP, ours isn't. Also, POP3 or IMAP would't allow our mail client to use all the options like scheduling meetings and accessing co-workers agendas.
Well, seems that they might support exchange in the next entourage release but I don't expect an office x revision before next year.
Seb
Why don't you have them use Exchange Web mail?
That aside it is irritating that MS or somebody else hasn't developed a way to access Exchange through a Mac client.
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Seb, Ryan's right that the way I have to use exchange. I use Entourage for OS X and if I want the other stuff I go to the web. I ********** hate exchange but our company got conned it to it. Also you it not likely it will really come to the Mac. The OS 9 exchange client was a program to wrap up the web interface any how.
AngusB
Sep 16, 2002, 07:28 PM
Does anybody know if the distortion problems with the ISub have been cleared up in 10.2.1...I am tired of my Subwoofer sounding like crap!
Angus
voicegy
Sep 16, 2002, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by ryan
Looks like the Apple article has been pulled.
Fascinating. Yes, it's been pulled. And after I told 3 co-workers about it. :confused:
Choppaface
Sep 16, 2002, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by arn
[b]
Improves compatibility with certain (SCSI-based) scanners.
mmkay let's pretend that this includes my very very old HP scanjet. what app could I use to bring pix in then?
also, is there any support for the 48x burners that don't cost an arm and a leg? (like I've seen some PC firewire ones for like ~$100)
Hemingray
Sep 16, 2002, 08:17 PM
Figures... what the heck are they doing over there anyway? Isn't this the second time they've posted this and pulled it?
Billicus
Sep 16, 2002, 08:19 PM
Wow! Something that I saw, before it was pulled. I must be lucky! :D
Rower_CPU
Sep 16, 2002, 08:27 PM
There's one definite solution to accessing an exchange server via an OS X machine:
VPC
Not the greatest performance, but hey, it's just email and calendaring...;)
oeyvind
Sep 16, 2002, 08:51 PM
Chinese encoding problem (http://www.oeyvind.org/journal/archives/000007.html) in 10.1.x & 10.2 has also been resolved mainly.
lsochrin
Sep 16, 2002, 11:27 PM
With all the comments on Apple discussion boards about the problem that people are having getting Windows users to consistently read attachments in Mail.app, I'm hoping that they pulled back 10.2.1 in order to add a fix for that. The typical poster to that topic says that they are going to have to use Entourage, because this isn't a problem using Entourage. Both are supposedly using AppleDouble, but Entourage's Windows recipients can open the attachments, whereas Mail's Windows recipients often cannot. Seems like a critical problem to me, since what good is a mail program if you can't consistently trust the program to send documents that can be read? :confused:
scem0
Sep 17, 2002, 12:24 AM
I just hope it is out soon. I have one of those TDK CD burners, and having support in iTunes would be really nice.
holmesf
Sep 17, 2002, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by scem0
I just hope it is out soon. I have one of those TDK CD burners, and having support in iTunes would be really nice.
Yup, same here. Firewire TDK VeloCD 24x16x32. Man that thing burns like a bat out of hell...Full CD in 2 minutes.
MacBandit
Sep 17, 2002, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Choppaface
mmkay let's pretend that this includes my very very old HP scanjet. what app could I use to bring pix in then?
also, is there any support for the 48x burners that don't cost an arm and a leg? (like I've seen some PC firewire ones for like ~$100)
You could use VueScan (http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=7610&db=mac). It has worked well for me and they update it very frequently.
Wardofsky
Sep 17, 2002, 03:07 AM
I believe that 10.2.1 has been released for developers, why?
Read the first line of "What's New?"
We wanted to drop you a quick note and let you know that CandyBar 1.0.1 is now available for download!
++ What's new?
- Support for Mac OS X 10.2.1
- New Icons (for 10.2 users): Finder (yay!), private folder, drop box folder, and servers!
- New icon category for Network-related icons
- Progress bar is now shown on first-launch while backing icons up
- Many internal and somewhat-boring improvements
++ Download link
http://www.iconfactory.com/software/CandyBar_1.0.1.dmg.bin
(Section from an e-mail sent for a CandyBar mailing list.)
RogueLdr
Sep 17, 2002, 03:28 AM
It seems to be a pattern with Apple (and numerous other developers) to have a much more finished package with a x.x.1 release. I am curious how many people would be happy with these features if they came direct with the initial release, but with the initial release coming in mid-Spetember?
I guess what I'm asking is whether a quick roll-out of the initial product is preferable to waiting a few more weeks for a more robust feature set?
Any thoughts?
RL
macduf
Sep 17, 2002, 06:04 AM
is there any chance that i could use my SCSI Agfa scanner(s) on my powerboork G3 (internal scsi)?
It never worked on OSX
xylpho
Sep 17, 2002, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by srobert
Hmmm... still not able to get mail off an exchange server.
I've been reading boards and surfing the net for weeks trying to find an OSX mail app that can work with windows exchange servers... […] Anyone had better luck than me?
Seb
Bad luck heh? I've the same problem in my office. No OSX native client for Exchange. Entourage isn't, read the doc (i made it my God) and they say "Entourage isn't an Exchange client but you connect an Exchange Server WITHOUT the feats. of Exchange, here's the hack…" and so on. Give me a gun, pleeeeease
Mulberry, Mailsmith, Mail, and the others aren't Exchange compliant
What about Ical in the future?
Codemonkey
Sep 17, 2002, 08:45 AM
I totally suck - I can't back up this at all (can't remember where I heard or read it), but from what I understood, the next iteration of Entourage is supposed to have Exchange funt. - hence them scrapping Outlook (which blew).
Anyway. I have a few colleagues who's companies bought into Exchange (with half the _company_ on Macs no less!), so it certainly would help to not abandon Mac/Exchange users.
So. That's what I heard. Entourage = Exchange compatibility.
Toodles.
xylpho
Sep 17, 2002, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Codemonkey
So. That's what I heard. Entourage = Exchange compatibility.
Toodles.
and it's totally false... no use of plannings, calendars, meetings, no email addresses completion (on this point, it's maybe a misconfiguration of our system administrators). Completely useless. I can only see the normal content of an IMAP box (at least, i can see it). We have 15 powermac, only one (mine) under Jaguar, and at least 150 PC (Dell, Compaq, Sun and so on). Addicted to .net, then the Exchange problem is annoying but not primordial _sigh_
Codemonkey
Sep 17, 2002, 10:21 AM
the _next_ iteration. Not this one. Sorry for the confusion!
Toodles.
vixapphire
Sep 17, 2002, 11:04 AM
Any word on whether the audio capabilities of OSX will be brought fully up to par? I've been holding off updating to osx (even though Emagic Logic is now available for it) because of what I've read elsewhere on this site regarding teething problems with audio implementation. Any thoughts?
Regards,
vixapphire
Pale Rider
Sep 17, 2002, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by lsochrin
With all the comments on Apple discussion boards about the problem that people are having getting Windows users to consistently read attachments in Mail.app, I'm hoping that they pulled back 10.2.1 in order to add a fix for that. The typical poster to that topic says that they are going to have to use Entourage, because this isn't a problem using Entourage. Both are supposedly using AppleDouble, but Entourage's Windows recipients can open the attachments, whereas Mail's Windows recipients often cannot. Seems like a critical problem to me, since what good is a mail program if you can't consistently trust the program to send documents that can be read? :confused:
Agreed. This is frustrating in a big way. But what I have seen of D44, 46, 50 & 51 does not look like this problem is fixed.
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