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geniusrock2002
Sep 21, 2002, 06:21 PM
Does anyone Knows what NT as in windows NT really means ?
edesignuk
Sep 21, 2002, 06:24 PM
You know this is a Mac forum right? :confused:
It's a little odd for only your second EVER post to be on winblows. :)
exbox
Sep 21, 2002, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by geniusrock2002
Does anyone Knows what NT as in windows NT really means ? I think it stands for "new technology"
shadowfax0
Sep 21, 2002, 06:38 PM
probably means NeTwork, maybe NoTwork...
mac15
Sep 21, 2002, 06:42 PM
Isn't it just 'Net'
mac15
Sep 21, 2002, 06:47 PM
I just found out it stand for
Northern Telecom, don't ask how or why it is, I found out a PC friend
gbojim
Sep 21, 2002, 07:00 PM
exbox is right.
It is New Technology
oldMac
Sep 21, 2002, 07:52 PM
If I recall correctly, it stands for "New Technology".
It started out as a joint project between Microsoft and IBM. The codename was "NT". Later, IBM and Microsoft couldn't agree on things and split the project in two.
Microsoft's half became "Windows NT" and IBM's half became "OS/2".
SilvorX
Sep 21, 2002, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by mac15
I just found out it stand for
Northern Telecom, don't ask how or why it is, I found out a PC friend
lol ya it was known as Windows Northern Telecom and New Technology, Northern Telecom (aka nortel) cuz nortel helped develop NT i believe (thats wha i heard from a person who knows alot about puters)
awrc
Sep 21, 2002, 09:05 PM
New Technology - I'd take the Nortel thing with a large pinch of salt.
mac15
Sep 21, 2002, 11:34 PM
thats strange, most Windows OSs are named after Canadian Places, and Apples are named after Animals
MacCoaster
Sep 22, 2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by mac15
thats strange, most Windows OSs are named after Canadian Places, and Apples are named after Animals
Huh? So 1.0, 2.0, 3.x, 95, 98, Millennium Edition, NT, 2000, and eXPerience are all Canadian places? Clarify please.
SilvorX
Sep 22, 2002, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by awrc
New Technology - I'd take the Nortel thing with a large pinch of salt.
lol well it was ppl who knew alot about windows who told me northern telecom since NT was originally for server/networking/etc and nortel was a huge networking company n such till 2 years ago when they almost went bankrupt and when i used to be a windows fan i remember seeing lots of news headlines on the ms site about ms and nortel partnerships....
well windows codenames arent named after canadian cities, just the current ver of windows n the next couple versions of windows...
win 95: chicago
win nt: cairo
windows me: millennium
detroit: cancelled win 95 successor
Windows 6.0 (within the next 5 years): blackcomb
Windows XP: whistler
next version of windows: longhorn...longhorn whistler and blackcomb are all located a few hr drive from redmond, which are in the rocky mountains up in canada....
n theres dozens more, including one called bobcat...and tonnes that are names of planets n such
SilvorX
Sep 22, 2002, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Huh? So 1.0, 2.0, 3.x, 95, 98, Millennium Edition, NT, 2000, and eXPerience are all Canadian places? Clarify please.
no, mac15 was just confused lol, whistler (aka hexpee) is the famous mountains and town up in canada...how dare they tarnish the famous skiing resort and town...the upcoming winblowz os in a few years longhorn is named after a cafe in whistler, and blackcomb is the name of the town right beside whistler....
jefhatfield
Sep 22, 2002, 02:11 AM
i am certified in windows nt 4.0
while it stands for new technology, a lot of people associate nt with networking as in nt server, nt workstation, etc
windows 2000 and the windows xp family are based on windows nt
but that is all fine and dandy, mac os 9 and os x rule:p
TEG
Sep 22, 2002, 04:14 AM
Here's the Gospel Truth
(Note: I have family that works for Nortel, and several friends at Microsoft)
The "NT" in Windows NT stands for New Technology. Many of the new technologies developed that it supported were in the area of processors and networking. Untill Win 98, NT was the only version of Windows to be able to use Pentium Pro Processors, and NT 4 was the only Windows version for Solaris, PPC, Alpha and other high-end processors, not just the crappy x86 processors.
The reason that "NT" is connected to Nortel, is that NT is the ticker symbol of Nortel, and at one time NT was the logo for Nortel. Because of this, Nortel had copyrighted the "NT" so when Microsoft wanted to use it, they has to put a disclamer on the box saying that "NT" is a registed trademark of Northern Telecom.
Thats the truth.... and I'm stickin' to it.
TEG
(Former PC only user)
Jays
Sep 22, 2002, 06:08 AM
NT = Neanderthal Technology
Wes
Sep 22, 2002, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by Jays
NT = Neanderthal Technology
Aahah I thought it was for Network, or as somebody already said, Notwork. Neanderthal was pretty good though.
bwatson
Sep 22, 2002, 06:50 AM
Interesting fact, Win NT was written by the same developers who wrote VMS (an old non-MS operating system from way back).
If you add one letter to "VMS", you get "WNT".
V -> W
M -> N
S -> T
I think "New Technology" just conveniently fitted the letters.
MacCoaster
Sep 22, 2002, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by SilvorX
no, mac15 was just confused lol, whistler (aka hexpee) is the famous mountains and town up in canada...how dare they tarnish the famous skiing resort and town...the upcoming winblowz os in a few years longhorn is named after a cafe in whistler, and blackcomb is the name of the town right beside whistler....
Hah, seriously? Interesting...
MacCoaster
Sep 22, 2002, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by SilvorX
[snip]...and tonnes that are names of planets n such [/B]
I remember some Windows project was codenamed "Saturn." Not sure what happened to it. I think it "evolved" into "Whistler," which in turn became Windows XP.
nixd2001
Sep 22, 2002, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by bwatson
Interesting fact, Win NT was written by the same developers who wrote VMS (an old non-MS operating system from way back).
If you add one letter to "VMS", you get "WNT".
V -> W
M -> N
S -> T
I think "New Technology" just conveniently fitted the letters.
I think it was Dave Cutler that MS hired in particular - he'd been responsible for the design of VMS as well, so I hear.
Bobd
Sep 22, 2002, 09:04 AM
When it was first announced, "NT" was being bashed and called "Nice try", "No, Thanks", and "Not Today"...
MisterMe
Sep 22, 2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by oldMac
If I recall correctly, it stands for "New Technology".
It started out as a joint project between Microsoft and IBM. The codename was "NT". Later, IBM and Microsoft couldn't agree on things and split the project in two.
Microsoft's half became "Windows NT" and IBM's half became "OS/2".
You are sort of correct, but you imply a timeline that is not correct. This stuff goes back a number of years, so my memory fades. At any rate, M$ and IBM codeveloped OS/2. It started out as MS-DOS 5 and IBM-DOS 5. (A few years later, both IBM and M$ shipped versions of DOS 5 and DOS 6 based on the old DOS codebase.) OS/2 was not ready when the IBM PS/2 line shipped. When OS/2 shipped, Presentation Manager, its GUI, was not ready.
In the meantime time, M$ had continued to work on Windows. IIRC M$ released Windows 3.0. OS/2 was not exactly blowing the market away. M$ announced that it would release a new version of Windows called Windows NT for "New Technology" with the Windows 3.0 GUI. It is my understanding that Win NT is OS/2 with an incompatible set of APIs. I have recently been informed that the APIs for text-based OS/2 applications remain a part of NT.
At any rate, after the announcement of NT, the relationship between IBM and M$ soured dramatically. M$ abandoned OS/2 with IBM becoming the sole developer of the OS. As part of the severance agreement, IBM was allowed use of the original Win NT APIs in OS/2. That is how IBM was able to develop in OS/2 a "better Windows than Windows."
Anyone is welcome to make corrections or additions what I have written--or, we can get back to talking about Macs;)
jaykk
Sep 22, 2002, 12:30 PM
I got the following news item by a quick search in Google.
"Although Microsoft presents NT as a homegrown OS, NT is actually much older than its official 1993 birthdate. NT contains architectural and design influences from another company's flagship OS. Interestingly, throughout the 1990s, Digital introduced many NT features to VMS, and Microsoft has added VMS developments to NT. For example, VMS featured native clustering support in 1984, and 64-bit memory and system APIs in 1996. Microsoft did not introduce clustering support to NT until late last year_and only on a limited scale_and several years might pass before Microsoft releases 64-bit NT."
Interesting..
Windows NT and VMS : The Rest of the story (http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4494&pg=3)
SilvorX
Sep 22, 2002, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Hah, seriously? Interesting...
mhmm, probably trying to give whistler-blackcomb the attention for the 2010 winter games i guess...
I remember some Windows project was codenamed "Saturn." Not sure what happened to it. I think it "evolved" into "Whistler," which in turn became Windows XP.
saturn is win2k
i know a guy who beta tested xp in its first stages at the place he works at, he was calling it windows 2001 back then (cuz it was back in 2000) and had the same ui as win 2k (n still said win2k back then)...
and neptune (thought it was saturn i was thinking of) which was the supposedly successor of win 2k (win 2001 back then) then evolved into whistler back in '01..
bah too much m$ talk for a m$ haters board lol lol
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