View Full Version : MacMinute claims new iMac on TIME cover
Bartman
Jan 6, 2002, 10:54 PM
www.macminute.com is claiming they have an advance issue of the Jan 7 issue of TIME, featuring the new iMac.
No picture as yet and I probably won't believe the picture if/when it goes up, but such is life in the rumor mill.
agreenster
Jan 6, 2002, 11:00 PM
Cool. Seems totally legit.
I think the new iMac will look cool, and be cool(G4 baby), but iPhoto seems kinda like a waste of time. I guess for the average consumer, it wont be....those who have never even heard of photoshop. At least iTunes is an application that all users can use, lower or higher end users.
Guest
Jan 6, 2002, 11:06 PM
read the whole article:
http://www.timecanada.com/
Beej
Jan 6, 2002, 11:06 PM
Pretty hard to argue with that...
Bartman
Jan 6, 2002, 11:07 PM
Ignore the crappy B&W photo at MacMinute, go see it at www.timecanada.com
$1,299 starting price?? Hope THATS a typo...
[Edited by Bartman on 01-06-2002 at 11:14 PM]
Beej
Jan 6, 2002, 11:09 PM
Steve is going to be rather angry, one would imagine...
Guest
Jan 6, 2002, 11:09 PM
http://www.timecanada.com/weekly/070102/gr/TopPhoto_140102.jpg
kishba
Jan 6, 2002, 11:11 PM
oh my god
it look weird
tubescan7777
Jan 6, 2002, 11:11 PM
steve is gonna be so mad at time for blowing the bubble right before the show aroung 12 hours.
Tubescan
it looks like a jetsons television . . . . .
tubescan7777
Jan 6, 2002, 11:13 PM
if apple is letting time know about the mac thay would ahev said hold off i bet this is just one more thing i bet thay will pull it down and then realse somethingentierly diffrent
Tubescan
Guest
Jan 6, 2002, 11:14 PM
I'm sure the fact that Time's Canadian web site has the entire article is probably a big time goof.
it's too bad. :( Steve/Apple have worked so hard to keep this a secret.
This may also explain why Steve moved his keynote.
fuzzhack
Jan 6, 2002, 11:16 PM
I think is just wanna .com
-patrick
voicegy
Jan 6, 2002, 11:16 PM
This info is being spread all over the place...I've already seen 3 other rumor sites with the pic and link!
TIME canada.com is being hit hard...it's becoming difficult to load the pages.
Steve's gonna FREAK. Unless he's got so much up his sleeve on Monday that he won't give a s*it about this little guy being revealed already.
(and, in my opinion, it looks sorta goofy...)
Ah, well...here's to that being just ONE of the many fun surprises at Macworld!
Scott
ROTLMAO
Jan 6, 2002, 11:18 PM
Hey Stevy babe -
I am laffin my freekin head off! That teeny weenie screen on top of a plastic dome.... hey doncha know that domes are major flops....look at the millenium dome in england :-D
If THAT is what's going to blow my socks off, well, lets say my tootsies are still cosy.
Hey, bud, best of luck tomorrow showing that thing with enthusiasm!
hehe.
really,
hehe
Bartman
Jan 6, 2002, 11:19 PM
This certainly has a feeling of being real. TIME isn't Spymac and isn't known for hoaxes... and I doubt they'd play along with a disinformation campaign.
Given that, a G4 half sphere LCD iMac hardly lives up to the hype... so I hope Steve has (a whole lot) more up his black turtle necked sleeve.
AudiA4
Jan 6, 2002, 11:20 PM
I'll take a PowerMac please.
Sayer
Jan 6, 2002, 11:21 PM
Egad! Thats HORRIBLE.
It looks like a kids toy! YUCK YUCK
BOO!!!!! BOO!!!!!!! BOOO!!!!!!! (Expo Preview)
you know what? . . . i have been wiggin' all week for tomorrow . . . and now i feel like i opened the presents the night before christmas . . . this sucks . . .
i had to log on just one more time . . . oh well, i hope there is more than this . . . . and i do think it will be very cool . . . who ever thought your mac might look like a desk lamp??
have fun. . . see ya tomorrow - i'm going to bed.
mcbane
Jan 6, 2002, 11:25 PM
I am not in the market for an imac, so imac's are not what I was looking forward to seeing tomorrow, but I think this thing looks pretty cool. What gets me really excited is that if the imac has a G4 in it, it seems like the chances of a G5 or a really boosted G4 apollo being announced tomorrow are much more likely. lets all cross our fingers.
kishba
Jan 6, 2002, 11:27 PM
what about keyboard or mouse? or other imac stuff?
there may still be other suprises
i have just enough money for that 1299 imac
i already can burn dvds with my quicksilver... this imac would be perfect in my room though
Yeah, I think it's pretty goofy looking to. Notice the date on the web article says January 14th. Whoops.
Gus
Beej
Jan 6, 2002, 11:29 PM
Now, I'm an Aussie, and have nothing against Canada or Canadians.
But it would be funny if Apple's new slogan was "Blame Canada" with the South Park tune of the same name playing in the background! :D
dizastor
Jan 6, 2002, 11:29 PM
Yeah, it is ugly, but so was the original iMac.
I'm hoping for a chrome plated powermac tomorrow.
iCinder
Jan 6, 2002, 11:32 PM
tomorrows tease on apple.com "You stupid f----s!!!! i'm gonna cut you up!"
Durandal7
Jan 6, 2002, 11:33 PM
That is damn cool in my opinion. Small screen? It looks like its 15".
[Edited by asurace on 01-06-2002 at 11:38 PM]
burger011
Jan 6, 2002, 11:33 PM
that would sit on a desk. The screen floats, G4 and iDVD. I would buy one in a heart beat.
Is this the device that goes "way beyond the rumors"....because everyone and their mother was taking about an LCD iMac. Some where even saying G4s etc....
All in all thought, its very cool.
macboy
Jan 6, 2002, 11:35 PM
THIS IS SOOOOO COOL!!!
I want one now! Where can I buy!!
So cool!
So what did you all say about my G4 iMac predictions....
Looks like we will get G5s too! G4 iMac with superdrives will kill powermac sales!
kishba
Jan 6, 2002, 11:35 PM
where is the optical drive?
udannlin
Jan 6, 2002, 11:39 PM
then again, most of us who post on this site should be looking at powermac's rather than imacs. This may appeal to the general public who currently use PC's. The fact that it looks more like and appliance then a computer which works well with their digital hub strategy. Having it be more integrated to people's daily lives and routines so this thing may have more to offer such as television and PVR capabilities the record directly to a SuperDrive. It that is the case then some people may opt for a new iMac rather then a TiVo and a PC. Will it flop like the cube? this we wont know for another month or so...
pandafactory
Jan 6, 2002, 11:40 PM
So we all know about India and Pakistan, but suppose Apple has nuclear weapons too... If so, I fear that the portion of Canada within 200 miles of Time may be in for a bad day.
albertomac
Jan 6, 2002, 11:41 PM
How many Mhz ?
Argo1000
Jan 6, 2002, 11:43 PM
If you've been stuck under a bulldozer and have NOT got to the TimeCanada.com site to see the full article and pics, get there ***NOW***
I can already hear Apple's pitbull lawyers on the phone to Time in NYC and Toronto, and I can tell you they're P*SSED! Heads will roll at Time Canada for this one.
Get there! THIS WILL BE GONE IN ONE HOUR!
GPTurismo
Jan 6, 2002, 11:46 PM
I now wonder about G5s. Would they release two such major things at the same time?
BTW - I think they look nice. I am just worried about how durable that arm is.
AudiA4
Jan 6, 2002, 11:46 PM
So...it's just a repackaged iMac? Oh well, at least it has a G4 AND superdrive. I was hoping for at least the touch screen aspect like the Sony Vaio. Of course, the article left out specifics (such as ram, speed, etc.), but you would think they would have mentioned those if they were available.
Sayer
Jan 6, 2002, 11:50 PM
Will the DVD/CD drive tray hit the keyboard like the 6100's did? Apple at least made attempts with the Quicksilver case to blend the door tray into the whole machine so there is hope.
Are the plugs on the back end or the side? Tons of cables snaking around that thing, great.
Is it modular as far as the CPU and power supply like the Cube?
Its not looking all that great as a computer unless you like in a really tiny apartment (Europe/Japan) or are absolutely into form over function.
Maybe Steve and Jonathan are laughing in the Time-Canada photo is because they know this is gonna bust Apple?
These are mostly rhetorical questions so please don't get all your panties in a twist. This could be a complete sham too. Would Time really screw up so badly just a few hours before Expo?
There had better be a new G4 of some substantial speed increase or Apple won't be getting any of my money for a long long time. Thats ultimate what its about no matter how grandiose their ideas on a digital hub are.
Bartman
Jan 6, 2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Argo1000
If you've been stuck under a bulldozer and have NOT got to the www.TimeCanada.com site to see the full article and pics, get there ***NOW***
I can already hear Apple's pitbull lawyers on the phone to Time in NYC and Toronto, and I can tell you they're P*SSED! Heads will roll at Time Canada for this one.
Get there! THIS WILL BE GONE IN ONE HOUR!
Maybe, maybe not... but it has been /.ed already.
I wonder if TimeCanada has ever seen this much traffic, then again, I wonder if they ever will again...
burger011
Jan 6, 2002, 11:51 PM
that the article didn't mention ghz. As for blowing the story, I don't think thats the case.
Everyone new there was a new iMac comming. Thats not way beyond the rumor sites. I dont think Jobs would tell TIME everything. The reason, he knows people like to talk.
I think he has another trick up his sleeve. Why else would he add an hour to his speech? he's known all along about the new iMac. The only new thing is iPhoto and how long can that take to introduce...
There is something more..
macboy
Jan 6, 2002, 11:52 PM
http://www.geocities.com/imac2k2/TopPhoto_140102.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/imac2k2/TIME_cover_140102.jpg
DVD Drive is on the front of the base... you can kinda see it,
burger011
Jan 6, 2002, 11:54 PM
On the cover picture, I dont see any wires connecting the screen to the hub.....do you?
i_did
Jan 6, 2002, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by burger011
On the cover picture, I dont see any wires connecting the screen to the hub.....do you?
No, but I do see an arm. What do you want wires for? That would make no sense.
iJason
Jan 6, 2002, 11:59 PM
SUPERDRIVE! 15" LCD and a G4! My dream just came true! (I could live without the look, but then again, look was never important to me anyway :-)
Thanks, Steve! (Of course, there is still a chance that this might not be true, but at least I do not have to skip my first lecture of the new year tomorrow :-) )
Then again, I will have to phone my local dealer to place an order... hmmmm....
Obsidian
Jan 6, 2002, 11:59 PM
incase everyone has forgotten, all of the articles, and the magazine are on TIME CANADA. the 'canadian' magazine posted the price point, so logically, the price must be $1299 canadian, right? sounds good to me
krafix
Jan 7, 2002, 12:01 AM
I am soooo saaadddd. I wich I never checked the internet one last time before bed. I would have prefered a sleepless night. I am canadian. This is soooo saaaadddd.
Sorry Steve.
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 12:01 AM
I dont want wires...
but it seems the screen and hub are seperate or am I looking at it wrong? To me it looks (and from what I understand from the article) the screen hooks onto the base. I think the article implies its separate.
if there seperate, something has to connect the screen to the hub.
Obsidian
Jan 7, 2002, 12:05 AM
incase everyone has forgotten, all of the articles, and the magazine are on TIME CANADA. the 'canadian' magazine posted the price point, so logically, the price must be $1299 canadian, right? sounds good to me
note: the story is NOT on time.com, the american site
Obsidian
Jan 7, 2002, 12:06 AM
incase everyone has forgotten, all of the articles, and the magazine are on TIME CANADA. the 'canadian' magazine posted the price point, so logically, the price must be $1299 canadian, right? sounds good to me
note: the story is NOT on time.com, the american site
and may i add that HOLY GOD DAMN THIS SERVER IS SLOW RIGHT NOW!! i had to click post like a 100 times!!!
Argo1000
Jan 7, 2002, 12:09 AM
If you've been stuck under a bulldozer and have NOT got to the TimeCanada.com site to see the full article and pics, get there ***NOW***
I can already hear Apple's pitbull lawyers on the phone to Time in NYC and Toronto, and I can tell you they're P*SSED! Heads will roll at Time Canada for this one.
Get there! THIS WILL BE GONE IN ONE HOUR!
macboy
Jan 7, 2002, 12:10 AM
if you can't get the pictures or if they load as broken images.... visit
http://www.geocities.com/imac2k2/TopPhoto_140102.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/imac2k2/TIME_cover_140102.jpg
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 12:11 AM
I dont want wires...
but it seems the screen and hub are seperate or am I looking at it wrong? To me it looks (and from what I understand from the article) the screen hooks onto the base. I think the article implies its separate.
if there seperate, something has to connect the screen to the hub.
I know that we've already decided that this is legitimate, but the site must be really new, because many of the links and services on the page are not up and running, and leave a message that says "this service will be available later."
Anyone experience this, or is it just me?
Gus
palendrome
Jan 7, 2002, 12:13 AM
Forget your first reaction to a tiny photo, wait to try it out in person before you make a judgement. If Time is running a frontpage issue with the slogan "FLAT OUT COOL!", then give it a chance. My first reaction was, "What the ****?", but I pictured it sitting in front of me and I really liked the simplicity. This is a brilliant design. Ahead of it's time as usual.
Anyone thought about the wireless keyboard/mouse possibly built into this thing?
tw9876z
Jan 7, 2002, 12:15 AM
i checked back on last time before and i couldnt resist, now im all pissed, but it is so different then what i thought it would be, i want one. i was hoping for a HUGE surprise tomarrow. This should change around apple i mean its new n cool like the first imac and if it has g4, it will be powerful, now i wish i hadnt bought my powerbook, but still 1200 in canadian isnt that bad, is it? but still thats not all thats comin, after seeing that i am almost positive about a portable tablet. If you remember, there was an article on this site about the picture of the screen with a pen by it, im sure there is a tablet, i mean there has to be, the pen sponsering, the picture in the borchure of the screen, there has to be something else. There is going to be something amazing. I think new airport, pda, and more. companies will be releasing addons to new mac stuff, and a g5 might not be far off. But the gameroom sign says to me that apple is getting many more games for us! i mean people comment on how few games they have (well people i know who use windows) but this might change that around. i think apple does have more than just this.
but, time in canada did not mess up, it is the day of the expo, so they are all right with what they did. Also they say the ipod signals apple to go into consumer electronic, even more suggesting they have more up their sleeve
[Edited by tw9876z on 01-07-2002 at 12:29 AM]
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 12:16 AM
I am in Canada and this is a $1299 iMac.
Thats a USD $799 computer!
Is this the big thing? Its OK - I sort of like it, and it would work well as a work station in our offices (we have a ***** pile of older iMacs for customer service stuff.)
OK - its probably good enough for a hit with the masses - Mr and Mrs dont-know-what-computer-to-get.
But wheres the big thing? Its likely that it wouldnt be released to Time becuase they would only be interested in the mass appeal machine.
We are still looking at 1 ghz and maybe the magical new object - PDA/thing.
iPhoto is perfect for the imac - most folks get lost in Photoshop, and anyway its too expensive (yeah, you can always do Hotline....)
Imac, iTunes, iPod, icamera (?), iPhoto, all for $799 plus the iPod. Its a good mass appeal combo, no question.
For the rest of us battle-hardened vets - maybe nada.
I hope not.
networkman
Jan 7, 2002, 12:23 AM
if apple did not want their imac on the cover, time wouldn't have done this
steve jobs probably planned this whole thing to build interest
ask yourself, now do you want to see the keynote any less now?
i thought so
SleepNow
Jan 7, 2002, 12:23 AM
I've coughed up better looking stuff than that thing.
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 12:23 AM
Help me out here please...
Is the LCD seperate from the hub or is all one piece?
From the cover picture and the article it seems as if its separate. The reason i ask, I dont see any cables between the 2.
And the photo on the cover seems a little different in that you can see the "hook" between the hub and lcd but on the big photo it looks like a pole....
no_time_to_register
Jan 7, 2002, 12:23 AM
steve jobs walks over and removes the monitor from the base and we have a tablet. perhaps that is the reason for the simple, elegant arm connecting the floating display. if this were the case, i would be soooo drooling more than i already am.
however, the more realistic side of me is saying that such a thng i unlikely,considering this paragraph from the timecanada article:
Rather than give his O.K., he went home from work early that day and summoned Ive, the amiable genius who also designed he original iMac, the other-worldly iPod music player, the lightweight but heavy-duty titanium PowerBook and the ice-cube-inspired Cube desktop, to name but a few of his greatest hits. As they walked through the 1,000-sq-m vegetable garden and apricot grove of Jobs' wife Laurene, Jobs sketched out the Platonic ideal for the new machine. "Each element has to be true to itself," Jobs told Ive. "Why have a flat display if you're going to glom all this stuff on its back? Why stand a computer on its side when it really wants to be horizontal and on the ground? Let each element be what it is, be true to itself." Instead of looking like the old iMac, the thing should look more like the flowers in the garden. Jobs said, "It should look like a sunflower."
but then right after that paragraph is the paragraph quoted below...who knows...maybe there are plans for it to fly away ;)
This might have irritated some people. But Ive synchs with Jobs, readily playing Sullivan to his Gilbert. Ive, the son of a silversmith, likes to talk about industrial design "as product narrative. My view is that surfaces and materials and finishes and product architecture are about telling a bigger story." The story the new iMac wanted to tell, he says, was about a flat display so light, fluid and free that it could almost fly away.
Bandit
Jan 7, 2002, 12:25 AM
I know apple's strategy. If this iMac is the center of the digital hub then all of its devices will hook up to it. When the iPod was released everyone wanted to know if there was a remote because it looked like it had a transmitter built in. What if that was this "gigwire" that everyone was talking about? It can connect peripherals wirelessly. You simply walk into your house with your iPod and can connect with your iMac without cables and upload songs. This would also allow for a wireless keyboard and mouse. I have also heard mention of a wireless video system being worked on. Maybe people who have already bought iPods have gigawire already and don't even know it. Just a thought.
This reminds me of the movie Deep Impact where Téa Leoni broke the story on the astroid (comet?) before the government planned on telling the public. The President had to move up the announcement and gave Téa exclusive in exchange for keeping her mouth shut. I wonder if apple moved up the announcement because Time Canada was threatening to release the article. Apple may have even asked them to wait until the night before so it wouldn't ruin the suprise as much.
just my two cents...
tw9876z
Jan 7, 2002, 12:31 AM
i checked back on last time before and i couldnt resist, now im all pissed, but it is so different then what i thought it would be, i want one. i was hoping for a HUGE surprise tomarrow. This should change around apple i mean its new n cool like the first imac and if it has g4, it will be powerful, now i wish i hadnt bought my powerbook, but still 1200 in canadian isnt that bad, is it? but still thats not all thats comin, after seeing that i am almost positive about a portable tablet. If you remember, there was an article on this site about the picture of the screen with a pen by it, im sure there is a tablet, i mean there has to be, the pen sponsering, the picture in the borchure of the screen, there has to be something else. There is going to be something amazing. I think new airport, pda, and more. companies will be releasing addons to new mac stuff, and a g5 might not be far off. But the gameroom sign says to me that apple is getting many more games for us! i mean people comment on how few games they have (well people i know who use windows) but this might change that around. i think apple does have more than just this.
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 12:31 AM
http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html
all the prices 1.2 - 1.4 ghz G4's
Yes its in French......
A new black iPod called HousePod or something
Pictures
and a mention of a Newton of some kind!!!!!!!!!
Burger,
The LCD is connected to the Base by a Chrome arm. This lets you adjust it. The "wires" presumably go down inside this arm.
arn
justguesting
Jan 7, 2002, 12:32 AM
http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/yoga/5.html
is another photo I found on Time Canada.....
Maybe it has something to do with this???
Beej
Jan 7, 2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by elgruga
http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html
all the prices 1.2 - 1.4 ghz G4's
Yes its in French......
A new black iPod called HousePod or something
Pictures
and a mention of a Newton of some kind!!!!!!!!!
Yes, but as I've pointed out elsewhere, have a look at the new iBook, and see if you believe the rest of it...
http://www.clginformatique.com/pages/newsdet.php?article=NEWSCLG_00012
:D
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 12:35 AM
http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html
black iPod - pretty cool - dont know if its got any new functions......
Mention of a return to Newton!
PDA! YES!
guest
Jan 7, 2002, 12:35 AM
I think that the article is just an article out of TIME(US) being reprinted in the Canadian edition. And as such the prices are probably US prices. :(
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 12:36 AM
Look at the cover photo....is it me or are there no cables/wires between the two. After reading the article, I got the feeling these (hub and LCD) 2 separate things.
Also, look at the bigger photo, it looks like a poll rather then a hook between the 2....
right... everything appears to be US prices
arn
robodweeb
Jan 7, 2002, 12:37 AM
maybe Steve arranged this early leak with TimeCanada to give the extreme voices in the Mac rumor community a few hours of sleep before unveiling this uninspiring iMac and giving us the chance to lambast Apple in the media ...
or else the article leaves out all the really good stuff until 10am tomorrow ...
I just hope that this form factor is not the only source of the hype .. .maybe the screen is detachable as an iPad or something ... or I'll be extremely disappointed in Apple ... maybe I should sell my AAPL stock in the morning, before the keynote drops their prices through the floor ...
iapplemac
Jan 7, 2002, 12:37 AM
I'm guessin they put at least a 733 or 800Mhz G4 in it and the lower end imacs might be 550 and 667( you wound want the lower power G4's they put in the PB G4's. So tey must have really fast Power Mac G4's coming out or G5's also they might put Super drives in the PowerMacs must all have SuperDrives also the current mouse and keyboard would not match this imac so i think we will have new keybord and mouse
the HosPod on the french website is just a leather/vinyl cover for the iPod. Still can't see the picture of the iWalk thingy, and what's up with the G5 picture? By the way, how in hell did you find this?
Gus
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by guest
I think that the article is just an article out of TIME(US) being reprinted in the Canadian edition. And as such the prices are probably US prices. :(
NO. I know we are just a bunch of "Frostbacks", but we dont use USD in our magazine articles. OK?
Its Canadian $.
And the french site is a re-seller who has posted early.
Hey - think about it its actually 5 am in France......
Yes, Virginia, there are other countries and time zones as well as the good old US........
MacGeek
Jan 7, 2002, 12:39 AM
http://www.MacAnonymous.com has them too!
macdop
Jan 7, 2002, 12:39 AM
that "new iPod" is just an iPod in a black leather case, you can see the stitching.
liebke
Jan 7, 2002, 12:44 AM
I'm still hoping for a new portable device. This quote from the article makes it seem possible.
"Are other noncomputer appliances on the horizon? "We have some ideas," says Jobs, adding that Apple would enter the marketplace "where we think we can make a contribution." For instance? Jobs sits back, smiles and declines to elaborate. Clearly, he's already working on something new. You can bet it's the best thing that Apple has ever done."
Beej
Jan 7, 2002, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by macdop
that "new iPod" is just an iPod in a black leather case, you can see the stitching.
Yes, and it even says that in the caption next to it... ;)
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 12:45 AM
It would seem that a PDA " Made in APPLE " is on the point to be born! the iWalk (its name remains to be confirmed) could be well one of the surprises announced by Steve Jobs for MacWorld Expo which begins Monday! the iWalk would use MacOS X " light ", with a brushed interface, and buttons similar to those of QuickTime 5. Moreover, the use of this apparatus seems to be done by the use of a stylet on the screen, with a recognition of the rather powerful writing. It would be equipped with an Internet navigator, several ports (entered and left audio, FireWire port, infra-red port).
This is a translation of the burble about return of the Newton.....
And yes, it is a black vinyl cover. dammit!
source was go2mac.com:
"Speaking of which, one of France's biggest resellers has posted specs for LCD iMacs and new Power Macs."
IndyGopher
Jan 7, 2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by elgruga
http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html
black iPod - pretty cool - dont know if its got any new functions......
Mention of a return to Newton!
PDA! YES!
That site lists the iMacs as having G3's, which we know now is not the case, so I suspect it's wrong on several other counts. Like, all of them.
Xapplimatic
Jan 7, 2002, 12:47 AM
OMG... it's so radically different.. it's all screen!
I like it!.. SuperDrive G4 iMac? Wow, the specs are better than the rumors.. for once!
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 12:48 AM
Wheres the proof of the G4 iMacs?
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 12:48 AM
In the top photo, I see the "pole" between the two, but in the cover it looks like a "hook" and nothing else.
The article did say it floats or appear to floats and a screen on a pole doesn't look like a floating screen to me.
And do you think there is anything to the clear covering over the LCD?
IndyGopher
Jan 7, 2002, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by elgruga
Wheres the proof of the G4 iMacs?
Read the Time Canada article.
Matt201
Jan 7, 2002, 12:53 AM
I don't think the price is in Canadian dollars. There is just NO way they can be THAT cheap! think about it, a 15" LCD is $929 Canadian dollars already! Sure, you can argue that the price might be dropping tomorrow, but would it be cheaper than the cheapest LCD in the market, which is $549 right now? More realisticly, the price should be around $729 or more. Which means that there the computer part is only $570? don't think so... Not to mention that some of you are still dreaming that it has a detachable LCD screen to be used as a Tablet. Again, ask yourself how much you are willing to pay for an iMac before you wish for something that is going to cost more than a PowerMac. Personally, I am quite happy with the fact that finally iDVD is going to the consumer-level Macs... That to me is ground-breaking. Who else does that in the Pee-Cee World? (for the same price)
P.S., yes, SONY has a screen that you can draw on, but it is NOT detachable, and it costs ALOT of dough! I don't know how much, but definately more than an $1899.
iapplemac
Jan 7, 2002, 01:01 AM
The french site is just listing rumors not real new products.
ThomasB
Jan 7, 2002, 01:03 AM
There is no black iPod. The picture on the French website shows an iPod in a leather case. And the prices are in US$. 1899 Canadian is like $1499 US.
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 01:04 AM
harping on this but there are NO wires or cables in the photos. The cover photo, shows a better picture of how the LCD and hub connect and there are no cables/ wires between the two.
Wireless is a big thing to Apple, what if the only wire needed was to plug the new iMac in.
No thats way beyond.
BurntCalc
Jan 7, 2002, 01:06 AM
That "informatique" site had something interesting at the bottom of one of their pages. Check this out...
http://www.clginformatique.com/pages/newsdet.php?article=NEWSCLG_00009
Anyone notice the logo at the bottom??
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 01:07 AM
(I know I'm posting alot so forgive me) why not include a keyboard and mouse with the picture. Maybe if they did that would give away the wirless secret.
With EVERY computer picture (i think) you always see the keyboard and mouse...yet this isn't every computer company.
I think there is a reason why we see no wires/cables.
IndyGopher
Jan 7, 2002, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by ThomasB
There is no black iPod. The picture on the French website shows an iPod in a leather case. And the prices are in US$. 1899 Canadian is like $1499 US.
You mean $1899CAD would be the same price as the high-end iMac now? Why is that so hard to believe? Apple margins have been like 22%, I think they could cut their margins to keep from upping the prices. We'll know soon enough, I suppose. If the high end machine were indeed $1499, I think sales would go through the roof. $1899, monitor-be-damned.. is still Cube territory. Steve Jobs has a lot of problems, but he does seem to learn from past mistakes.. usually.
mcbane
Jan 7, 2002, 01:09 AM
the wires are threaded through the flexible extender bar thing that works like a flexible lamp. I personally really dig the design and I think a lot of other people will too once they see em up close. I think it is an excellent design for what they are being sold for, the average Joe who doesnt really know much about computers and wants something as easy to work as a TV. the design is very simple and straight forward, the monitor is all you see and in your face as well as being easily positionable to your desire, and to people that know nothing about computers the actual hardware is nothing more than a base. it should sell well.
palendrome
Jan 7, 2002, 01:10 AM
Don't you think that's a little odd? Maybe there is some wireless networking capabilities built in? Maybe it is an Airport base station and a computer!!!
Apple was working on wirelessly "daisy-chaining" base stations together so that one base station could talk to another one within the 802.11b spec distance.
Food for thought. Think Different.
hotch
Jan 7, 2002, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by BurntCalc
That "informatique" site had something interesting at the bottom of one of their pages. Check this out...
http://www.clginformatique.com/pages/newsdet.php?article=NEWSCLG_00009
Anyone notice the logo at the bottom??
Looks like a quick photoshop job to me...
So the iBook is the only G3 left? That can't last.
holmesf
Jan 7, 2002, 01:12 AM
Well it says "G5 with velocity engine" on it. But it looks like they changed that with Photoshop or something. Doesn't look right. Anyway, the stats say G4 on that page anyway. I don't trust it.
BurntCalc
Jan 7, 2002, 01:15 AM
Okay guys. Don't get in a tiff over the information on informatique.com. Allow me to translate the french (since I speak it).
It says that the G4 1.2 and 1.4ghz will be released in April of 2002.
It also says that the "Newton" will be released in March.
Finally, and this destroys the credibility of the site for me, it says that the LCD iMacs aren't coming until April either.
You'll notice that the older dates are correct, but the rest seems like a fabrication. That is, unless this french site is posting the European release dates here.
Oh damnit! I'll just watch the gawdam keynote.
BurntCalc
Jan 7, 2002, 01:16 AM
ooops! my mistake. The dates are backward. Looks like Jan 3, and Jan 4. Hehehe...
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 01:17 AM
The low-end iMac is $799 USD. Why? Because it doesnt have an LCD.
I think the French site has it down - the low end iMac is still the old CRT screen.
Then the cheapest LCD Jetsons iMac would be about $999 USD and then say $1299 for the superdrive.
Does that work?
Hey they have to break into a recession market here - so they need some price breaks as well as some hot goods.
I apologise for all my posts about a Newton thing.
Its just that I really loved that iWalk......except for the silly name.
GeeYouEye
Jan 7, 2002, 01:17 AM
checked register.com. While most of the info is the same, on time.com, it is an AOL server, it isn't for timecanada.com. Just a thought.
medelegant
Jan 7, 2002, 01:19 AM
If you could read French, then you might understand that the houspod is infact a case for an iPod.
The price of 44 Euros would be perhaps high for my taste but so be it.
timewarner...aol...doh...
Ok guys... ignore the french site.... it's just reprinting bad rumors... it's not up to date.
TimeCanada is legit and real. I have no doubt that's the real iMac to be introduced tommorrow.
It's $1800 US Dollars for the high end. See MacMinute - they have the actual Time US article and state clearly $US 1800.
arn
elgruga
Jan 7, 2002, 01:23 AM
Just so you know, there is a Canadian law against publishing US (or any non-Canadian magazine) that has merely added "canada" to the title.
It has to be a real Canadian version, with Canadian stories etc.
Thats a fact.
So Time Canada is a separate entity in many real ways, although owned by Time US.
Scab Cake
Jan 7, 2002, 01:26 AM
If the article is legit, then this line implies that there are no new G5s...
Manipulating video-distilling those 90-min. tapes of mind-numbing music recitals and awards banquets into amusing, fast-moving 3-min. shorts-is almost as simple on the new iMac, which features a fast G4 chip, just like Apple's top-of-the-line machines
Look specifically at the last part of the quote. It looks to me like they're going to stick with the G4s.
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 01:27 AM
have a wire connection. But doen't ANYONE think its wierd that there is no keyboard and mouse pictured?
And as a previous person stated it looks like an Air Port base station. I think there is a surprise. Maybe we dont need a keyboard anymore? We can just talk to thing.
wHo_tHe
Jan 7, 2002, 01:28 AM
Everyone who said wearable computer was right. Congratulations!
The new iMac is actually a 21st century propeller cap with an adjustable monitor so you can read it while walking. Ingenious.
Good job, everybody!
Beej
Jan 7, 2002, 01:32 AM
Yes OK! There is no mouse or keyboard! But perhaps they were left out because the article is on the new iMac, not the things that plug into it.
Or perhaps they are new and wireless. Or perhaps you don't need them and can talk to it (now that would be amazing!)
Beej
Jan 7, 2002, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by wHo_tHe
Everyone who said wearable computer was right. Congratulations!
The new iMac is actually a 21st century propeller cap with an adjustable monitor so you can read it while walking. Ingenious.
Good job, everybody!
LOL. Bit expensive for a cap, though. But, add a beer dispenser, and I'd consider it :D
madmac30
Jan 7, 2002, 01:35 AM
and to all the people who think it looks ridiculous or don't like it - sounds to me like you are just a little envious that you were not the person who designed it. I am giving credit where credit is due - great Jobs
ThorPrime
Jan 7, 2002, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by Scab Cake
If the article is legit, then this line implies that there are no new G5s...
Manipulating video-distilling those 90-min. tapes of mind-numbing music recitals and awards banquets into amusing, fast-moving 3-min. shorts-is almost as simple on the new iMac, which features a fast G4 chip, just like Apple's top-of-the-line machines
Look specifically at the last part of the quote. It looks to me like they're going to stick with the G4s.
They’re not talking about the Towers. The article is only on the iMac(which has the G4). That does not mean there will be no G5 Tower.
palendrome
Jan 7, 2002, 01:37 AM
Why else would the base of the iMac look so similar to another apple product. I think tomorrow is going to be the day of "the wireless digital hub".
paulwhannel
Jan 7, 2002, 01:37 AM
Okay, my two cents... First, I fully expect it's $1299 US, because I will NOT get my hopes up for an $800 computer this cool... 'course, i can't afford it either way... Secondly, to all those people wondering if the screen will detach... NO. The article clearly states that the ****ing PROCESSOR IS IN THE BASE. It cannot operate sans-processor, and the idea that it has another processor IN the screen is rediculous. Plus, if it's detachable, it must have a hard drive and RAM built in, which would mean the base could be considerably smaller without those things. And again, it won't have secondary memory in the screen. that's wasteful and expensive.
You've all gotten too sucked into the idea of an iPad. Unless it's another announcement tomorrow morning (which I hope), there is no such device. Live with it.
Now as for my take on the design... I'll assume you all care deeply as to what i think... ;) It's a good melding of form and function, i think when you SEE the thing in person you'll like it much more. it's geometrically well designed and well proportioned. And the fact that the screen (obviously) swivels and adjusts side to side, up and down, forward and backward, will be very nice. I hate having to slide a huge CRT monitor around on it's base, without tipping it over...
hotch
Jan 7, 2002, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by arn
Ok guys... ignore the french site.... it's just reprinting bad rumors... it's not up to date.
TimeCanada is legit and real. I have no doubt that's the real iMac to be introduced tommorrow.
It's $1800 US Dollars for the high end. See MacMinute - they have the actual Time US article and state clearly $US 1800.
arn
Bringing them back into the price point previously occupied by the Cube
Originally posted by hotch
Bringing them back into the price point previously occupied by the Cube [/B]
True... but now with a Superdrive and 15" LCD.
Supposedly you can get one (without the Superdrive) for $1200-99 (forget which)
arn
voicegy
Jan 7, 2002, 01:48 AM
1. The French site is tripe. Rehash. I wilst ignore it.
2. The iLamp, iCap, iBeannie, iJetson thing isn't shown with a keyboard and mouse because it would be considered "clutter" for the photo, and probably will have a different anyway.
3. From number 2 above, you can tell what my opinion is on the design. : )
4. I hated the iMac when it first came out, from a design standpoint. (they got better, IMHO, though) I thought they looked like something a dinosaur would "leave behind." Thank goodness no one cares about my opinion...it appealed to the masses, and that's what mattered at the time.
5. This will, in all likelyhood, do the same thing. But, NOT for me. : ) (but so what...see 4 above)
2 points:
1. When Steve rolls out this machine (among others', I'm sure this isn't the only thing we'll be seeing/hearing about tomorrow) do you think the majority of the audience will have already seen it on timecanada and sort of, well, tepidly respond to it? Or do you think only a handful of people (maybe only, perhaps, several thousand of us) stay up nites trolling for info? : )
2. What if the biggest hoax of all time were to happen....what if Apple and Steve have the last laugh and tomorrow the REAL flat panel iMac gets rolled out? Have enough people already seen/will see pics from the timecanada article to merit the joke-is-on-us of all time?
Speculation is fun, idn't it? : )
Scott
venom72
Jan 7, 2002, 01:49 AM
Maybe I'm the only one noticing this, but there are a couple of issues at hand with this "early release":
1. All of the other issues (i.e. Asia, pacific, europe) have a web address of http://www.time.com/time/asia , etc
there is no such cananda address.
instead we get timecanada. There may be a law, but laws can be broken.
2. Looks like either it is a cut and paste job, or time canada needs to hire a new web designer, as there are obvious aliasing issues around "TIME" on the timecanada's homepage. Also, the time sites have "time" and then a large ASIA, etc, by it. different designer JUST for Canada's site?
3. Many links on the site return you to time US or are "coming soon". Pretty unprofessional for time-warner, right?
4. OK, I realize that I am probably an idiot conspiracy theory sort of guy, but I wouldn't expect any less from some of the people out there with too much time on their hands, or even a mac publicist having fun with a discarded prototype. With all the recent hype, iwalk drove me nutz, and if this is a fake, its an even better one, but don't rule out the possibilty.
Just food for thought.
I doubt Apple really cares enough about the rumor-mongers to play a trick on them...
Besides... it's a good design... so I don't see how they would waste it on a trick.
Personally, I think it looks a lot better than the mockups people have been distributing around
arn
Xapplimatic
Jan 7, 2002, 01:53 AM
This is the computer so many people have been wanting.. an all in one, don't need extra peripherals does all for <$2000... SuperDrive, G4, iDVD, iMovie, studio for $1800.. amazing in short.. now can someone tell me where they're hiding all the goodies? G4, motherboard, harddrive, power supply, DVD drive.. hard to believe it all fits in that relatively small "half-cantaloup sized" base... They've really pulled a rabbit out of the hat.. almost NOBODY predicted a G4 iMac, not to mention SuperDrive... Now the question is, what else lurks in the digital dungeon for tomorrow? PowerMac Apollo Dual 1200 Mhz? Details! DETAILS!
venom72
Jan 7, 2002, 01:54 AM
Obviously apple cares about the rumors, hence the slogans and hype.
matt201
Jan 7, 2002, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by arn
Personally, I think it looks a lot better than the mockups people have been distributing around
arn
I agree 100%! Especially the Cat one... :-)
sunwukong
Jan 7, 2002, 01:58 AM
I feel like one of those proto-humaniod-ape-like-creatures in the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey when they see The Monolith. Sort of. I just keep starin' at it... They (Apple:Ives:Jobs) are certainly envisioning things further down the road than I can see. I think maybe a number of people might not be ready for a computer that doesn't 'look' like a 'computer'. (but of course it -looks- like one, it -is- one, just beyond anything we've really seen yet). But then others are.
ThorPrime
Jan 7, 2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
Okay, my two cents... First, I fully expect it's $1299 US, because I will NOT get my hopes up for an $800 computer this cool... 'course, i can't afford it either way... Secondly, to all those people wondering if the screen will detach... NO. The article clearly states that the ****ing PROCESSOR IS IN THE BASE. It cannot operate sans-processor, and the idea that it has another processor IN the screen is rediculous. Plus, if it's detachable, it must have a hard drive and RAM built in, which would mean the base could be considerably smaller without those things. And again, it won't have secondary memory in the screen. that's wasteful and expensive.
I'm not saying the screen is detachable but it DOES NOT need a hard drive/Ram/Processor. Just an airport connection to drive the monitor remotely.
mac fanatic
Jan 7, 2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Bandit
I know apple's strategy. If this iMac is the center of the digital hub then all of its devices will hook up to it. When the iPod was released everyone wanted to know if there was a remote because it looked like it had a transmitter built in. What if that was this "gigwire" that everyone was talking about? It can connect peripherals wirelessly. You simply walk into your house with your iPod and can connect with your iMac without cables and upload songs. This would also allow for a wireless keyboard and mouse. I have also heard mention of a wireless video system being worked on. Maybe people who have already bought iPods have gigawire already and don't even know it. Just a thought.
Apart from the people who have all ready pulled apart the iPods. I think that they would have noticed this if it was true.
GeeYouEye
Jan 7, 2002, 02:06 AM
Judging from the photos, there are two possibilities
1. There will be slower, small size processors, ie those in the PBG4
2. The pictures and article are FAKE and disinformation.
There is no way in hell, Earth, or heaven or beyond (OK maybe heaven :)) that everything else can fit in there, along with the G4 and, more to the point, the heatsink. It just isn't possible.
palendrome
Jan 7, 2002, 02:08 AM
Registrant:
Time Inc. New Media (TIMECANADA-DOM)
1271 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
US
Domain Name: timecanada.com
I think the webmaster should be fired though. All the link under the "Community" section lead to "Coming Soon" pages.
My $.02
iCinder
Jan 7, 2002, 02:10 AM
i just cruised through timecanada's source code and came up with nil. if Jobs was going to make a fake site or plant a fake article i think he would make some way to figure it out. He seems to like mind games.
tadpole
Jan 7, 2002, 02:13 AM
hey guys when you run whois for both Time.com and Timecanada.com, you get two different host servers, not even remotely related. If it is truly the same corporation they would usually outsource their stuff to the same serving entity. http://www.TIMECANADA.COM is served by AOL. This reeks of a hoax.
madmac30
Jan 7, 2002, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by GeeYouEye
There is no way in hell, Earth, or heaven or beyond (OK maybe heaven :)) that everything else can fit in there, along with the G4 and, more to the point, the heatsink. It just isn't possible.
Look at the diameter at the base and compare to the size of the cube - there is plenty of room in there
misterMike
Jan 7, 2002, 02:15 AM
I kept seeing this mention of a hook… finally I had to take another look at the pic's.
Look at both photos again (Jobs and Ivey and Time's cover) The monitor arm is chrome. Chrome reflects light in interesting ways, the center of the arm is dark in this particular photo. There is no hook and the monitor cableing runs through this arm. Simple.
palendrome
Jan 7, 2002, 02:15 AM
Of course there's two different host servers, they are different domains and one server could be in Thailand for all we know.
madmac30
Jan 7, 2002, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by tadpole
hey guys when you run whois for both Time.com and Timecanada.com, you get two different host servers, not even remotely related. If it is truly the same corporation they would usually outsource their stuff to the same serving entity. http://www.TIMECANADA.COM is served by AOL. This reeks of a hoax.
timewarner is aol - they are one in the same
mac fanatic
Jan 7, 2002, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by burger011
harping on this but there are NO wires or cables in the photos. The cover photo, shows a better picture of how the LCD and hub connect and there are no cables/ wires between the two.
Wireless is a big thing to Apple, what if the only wire needed was to plug the new iMac in.
No thats way beyond.
How do you have wireless power for the monitor. Hmmmm.........
palendrome
Jan 7, 2002, 02:20 AM
SOLAR POWER?
iCinder
Jan 7, 2002, 02:20 AM
how many ppl are staying up to see the banner on apple.com change?
starrman
Jan 7, 2002, 02:23 AM
damn right im staying up...and scouring apple's servers for the picture early so i can go to bed
Wow...
you guys just don't want to believe anything do you?
1) MacMinute has the paper copy of Time in their hands.... as does CNet.
2) http://www.time.com/time/asia <- Go to the bottom "Time Editions" - Link to Time Canada from there.
arn
smoot
Jan 7, 2002, 02:24 AM
me btw looks like a hoax to me . . .
Crotalus
Jan 7, 2002, 02:25 AM
I've got Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin to keep me company. Wow, if I could've seen myself listening to the Rat Pack 5 years ago I'd have laughed my ass off. I guess my grandpa was right, that music has a certain something. Anyway Organic Chemistry doesent come until 1:30 tomorrow, so I'm in it for the duration.
iCinder
Jan 7, 2002, 02:25 AM
like a highschool chearleader, this article is just a tease. i need specs!!
paulwhannel
Jan 7, 2002, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by ThorPrime
I'm not saying the screen is detachable but it DOES NOT need a hard drive/Ram/Processor. Just an airport connection to drive the monitor remotely. [/B]
*laughs and laughs and laughs*
You go right ahead with that idea... Just think about how damn ZIPPY a computer would be with an Airport system bus! Okay starting from the beginning:
-A processor is needed to *drive* the Airport card in the iPad
-Airport isn't fast enough to handle the processor, let alone the processor, hard drive, RAM, etc, blah
-Technology to *make* Airport fast enough to do these things would REVOLUTIONIZE the wireless world... It's the IEEE 802.11b Wireless standard, understand, and there has been no signifigant speed increase in that standard since it was created
-such a device, if it *was* physically possible, would cost many many thousands of dollars... Forget breaking the Cube cost, it would break the original TAM cost!
Sorry if this sounds snippy, I dont mean it to be, but I'm watching Duckman and inhaling caffeine to stay awake till the keynote... no way in hell i'm waking up that early ;)
And I feel a little screwed, I guess, by the fact that I have a spoiler of the announcement... I've been trying to figure this out for weeks, but i guess i didnt really want to know! Jobs always does such a good job dazzling people, it's nice to be under his power when seeing a new product ;) I hope there'll be many many more surprises tomorrow (and if it's an iWalk i'm slitting my wrists), cause as much as I love the new iMac, it doesn't live up to the hype so far...
hotch
Jan 7, 2002, 02:26 AM
i agree! with the exception of the pics of steve with it...
a couple oddities...
1) timecanada has no meta tags... what professional web site has no meta tags?
2) Time seems to use a piece of software called "Vignette StoryServer 5.0" on time.com, timeasia.com, timepacific.com, and timeeurope.com. timecanada seems to have no database tied in... you simply can't run a site of that magnitude without database sw...
3) time.com, timeasia.com, timepacific.com, and timeeurope.com all have ip's in the 205.188.238.* block, while timecanada is at 64.12.182.246
4) speaking of IPs... if you go to 64.12.182.245, you're at AOL Brazil... seems kind of odd
5) as far as whois records go... timecanada is the only time site using AOL nameservers
whoorwhatinthehell
Jan 7, 2002, 02:27 AM
I still don't believe it. Elvis must have hacked into the site and changed something. Everybody knows that there is no such thing as Asia anyway.
webmasterkai
Jan 7, 2002, 02:30 AM
http://www.timecanada.com is fixed
but for those of us who still look at the new imac:
http://www-stg.timecanada.com/
smoot
Jan 7, 2002, 02:33 AM
They pulled it!!!!!
I bet apple is pissed
reyesg4
Jan 7, 2002, 02:34 AM
With technology the way it is, eventually all the electronics will be so small that a computer(mac) wont need much of a case to hold all the inside parts. This is were apple is heading with the consumer line. I think the next overhaul of the iMac will look completely like a consumer product and nothing like a computer. The price unfortunatly is right for all the stuff it has inside. Apple did all it could to keep costs down, I mean, all the work put into this kind of technology which PC companies do not even try is not cheap. You will never be able to build your own egg timer iMac. I think that after 2 speedbumps, if there is no big thing is software that will require supercomputer chips, the speeds of the iMac will be fast enough to handle any kind of work for many years to come. When all PC's get to that point, people will want smarter, easier, and cooler computers and Apple is waaaaaay ahead of everyone else on that front. Once speed is no longer an issue, I think Apple will grow marketshare.
The only problem I see with the design is that it does not look like it has speaker on the base, so it better come with some bose speakers or something and a wireless keyboard. Even at that price, I think anyone that has never bought a PCI card can upgrade their system and be happy with what they get. All I know for sure is that I wont overlook an iMac when I go to buy my new Mac. With the tower prices raising like they are, there is no need for me to buy another tower.
If Apple were smart, they should sell the iMac with no monitor after a while, forget that whole make the computer part of you lifestyle nonsense and give the average joe what he wants, a cheap PC. Even with all that said, I think I am looking at my next Mac, I know my desk will be much happier.
venom72
Jan 7, 2002, 02:34 AM
How boring.
"The show starts at 9am pacific."
Watch the live webcast in quicktime.
Letdown, where's the snappy stuff?
iCinder
Jan 7, 2002, 02:35 AM
i think that capture of the OS X desktop is photoshopped. there are no icons on the desktop and the icon in the dock where the trash is supposed to be looks nothing like the X trash icon
palendrome
Jan 7, 2002, 02:36 AM
Go to http://www.apple.com/home/
Hint: If the current cover page appears at first just refresh the page.
menoinjun
Jan 7, 2002, 02:39 AM
This doesn't add up to me, and yet inside I know that this is real. I betcha time canada didn't expect us to be out here scouring the web on sunday night looking for clues. This seems fake because of the site, the lack of a working link from time.com, and the ip addresses, and yet it looked real enough. The .jpg did have some errors surrounding the people and iMac in the article, but that could be just ****** compression. I'm not gonna be able to sleep!!
-Pete
Soupisgoodfood
Jan 7, 2002, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by burger011
harping on this but there are NO wires or cables in the photos. The cover photo, shows a better picture of how the LCD and hub connect and there are no cables/ wires between the two.
Wireless is a big thing to Apple, what if the only wire needed was to plug the new iMac in.
No thats way beyond.
That would just be dumb. Why would Apple waste a wireless connection, when the screen is only about 1' away from the base?
I think you are missing something very obvious... The wire is there, it just runs down the chrome pipe the holds up the LCD.
I like it. If deffinitly differernt. And I think it will grow on people once they get over the innial 'WTF is that?!' shock.
From the look of it. It would probably take up even less space on you desk than an ordinary LCD, let alone a big CRT. Since the screen floats infront of the computer, you can push the base right to the back, and move the LCD out of the way easly when needed to aswell.
You know you've designed something good when half the people say it's the ugliest thing they've ever seen, and half say it absolutly brilliant. Good/new designs are always contrivercial.
Still. I was hoping for a newton the size of a Vx. Maybe there are still a few more suppises to come.
Hell, the might have even let Times run the artical. So everyone thinks that the cat is out of the bag, when really, the big thing is still to come... Well.. maybe anyway.
Crotalus
Jan 7, 2002, 02:40 AM
The pics of the text are broken for me though.........
menoinjun
Jan 7, 2002, 02:41 AM
-Checked it. I hope that they have enough bandwidth for me to tap into the broadcast tomorrow at noon.
100 posts. And what a day to do it on.
-Pete
iCinder
Jan 7, 2002, 02:43 AM
ok... i am gonna attempt to get some sleep. I will see you all tomorrow where we can here about the G7 8ghz, airport with 6 mile range, new "add inches naturally" mac, and what not
buffsldr
Jan 7, 2002, 02:45 AM
http://www.timecanada.com now points to time.com/time.
This is a hoax. Somebody ripped their dns info.
how many times do I have to say it...
MacMinute has a physical copy of the magazine in their hands.
arn
hotch
Jan 7, 2002, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by palendrome
Go to http://www.apple.com/home/
Hint: If the current cover page appears at first just refresh the page.
did you get anything other than the "the show starts at 9" blah blah blah?
menoinjun
Jan 7, 2002, 02:49 AM
how can you know arn, and if so how did they get it, and I would like some more proof. Everything you say is always legit, but I would like to know how they got the mag.
No offense, but I'm just a little wary
-Pete
smoot
Jan 7, 2002, 02:50 AM
it is still up check here :
http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp
venom72
Jan 7, 2002, 02:51 AM
TImecanada is back up sans pictures....hmmmm?
Originally posted by hotch
Originally posted by arn
how many times do I have to say it...
MacMinute has a physical copy of the magazine in their hands.
arn
how can we be sure?
Well,
1) Leap of faith...
2) They had a poor quality scan of the cover posted on their website but pulled it when the TimeCanada link was found.
3) If you still aren't convinved - I guess just wait until tommorrow... (but it's real. :) )
On News.com
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-8388611.html?tag=tp_pr
But Apple apparently gave the story to Time, which put the new iMac on its cover. MacMinute broke the story after obtaining a copy of the Time article. The issue went on sale at New York newsstands late Sunday
arn
Macsin
Jan 7, 2002, 02:54 AM
I do think Steve Jobs posed for that picture, that is the real new iMac and probably there will be no other big new release in the MWSF.
I think that someone inside TimeCanada is really in BIG trouble for releasing a history that was supposed to be issued on Jan14 (as the top of the site said).
Lets wait and see tomorrow. Jobs will be very Mad, that's for sure. Apple and Time probably had an agreement to not release the history before the MWSF and Apple will sue TimeCanada for not respecting that.
I guess I will have to buy a Palm Vx or something. No PDA will come. Not that I believed in that iWalk stuff.
Macsin
smoot
Jan 7, 2002, 02:55 AM
AND CHECK MY LINK !!!!!!!!
http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp
timetogotobednow
Jan 7, 2002, 02:56 AM
http://www-stg.timecanada.com/
also works
macplus
Jan 7, 2002, 02:58 AM
Some reason I'm not getting the new teaser, just the same old "1 day...". Anyone else having trouble? I did see some broken picts of the new slogan though, then it changed back.
dongmin
Jan 7, 2002, 03:00 AM
News magazines go to press Saturday night, get shipped sometime Sunday, and hit major airports by Sunday night in time for the Monday morning business travelers. I'm pretty sure they also get distributed in NY sometime late Sunday.
Lightningwolf
Jan 7, 2002, 03:00 AM
IMHO, it look as though the timecanada.com article getting yanked is more proof of the new iMac, especially since the site now points back to time.com. Also, on the $1800 price for the new iMac, I don't see why Apple would set a price point for it that high, it would cannibalize sales of the low end Power Macs, unless they dropped the $1699 price point for the low end Towers and started them out at $2199. Just a thought.
wildgift
Jan 7, 2002, 03:02 AM
I really like it. If I had only one computer, I guess I'd want something expandable and huge, but I own three (one in parts) and have another lent out. It's not a great "only" computer, but it looks like a nice addition to the network. You could own two of these, and it wouldn't feel like "oh, I own two computers, this desk is too crowded."
It certainly beats your standard tower case in appearance. It looks like a "modern" television. If there were TVs that looked like that, I'd want one. I'm sure this will do double-duty as a tv, for some people.
I hope it's quiet, and lacks a fan. I hate my computers that have noisy fans. Ugh. That whirring noise makes me yearn for an old 16 bit computer without a fan. I've only owned two computers with fans, and have tried hard to silence them :-)
I'm glad it wasn't a PDA. That's not very interesting. I'm kind of bummed it wasn't a wireless screen/tablet thing. That would be pretty cool, despite the fact it would be pretty useless for most people.
What I'd really dig is if Apple would make a hardware "quicktime player". It'd be a little like the teensy vaio with the camera, but without the annoyance of an OS to manage. It would just play DVDs, record video and audio, and let you do some basic photoshopping and editing.
Originally posted by Lightningwolf
IMHO, it look as though the timecanada.com article getting yanked is more proof of the new iMac, especially since the site now points back to time.com. Also, on the $1800 price for the new iMac, I don't see why Apple would set a price point for it that high, it would cannibalize sales of the low end Power Macs, unless they dropped the $1699 price point for the low end Towers and started them out at $2199. Just a thought.
Agreed... they're going to have to bump the Pro macs... to sell this at $1799
arn
F/reW/re
Jan 7, 2002, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by webmasterkai
http://www.timecanada.com is fixed
but for those of us who still look at the new imac:
http://www-stg.timecanada.com/
Why are we beeing redirected to http://www.times.com/time ?
dongmin
Jan 7, 2002, 03:04 AM
Also, the story is dated Jan. 14th because it's in the Jan. 14th issue which hits the stands tonite (always one week ahead of the date). Jobs must have known in advance that the story would break tonite so I don't think he'll be too surprised or pissed. So I'm hopeful that this isn't the big "one more thing" announcement Jobs is springing on us.
sparky
Jan 7, 2002, 03:11 AM
hmmmm.
http://www.cannonball.com.au/imac.html
webmasterkai
Jan 7, 2002, 03:14 AM
talk about one cool looking lamp. a lamp with a dvd burner. dang!
dongmin
Jan 7, 2002, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by sparky
hmmmm.
http://www.cannonball.com.au/imac.html
sad but true. This is the first line in Cnet's article on the new imac: The new iMac looks like a desk lamp. I'm afraid that's the way a lot of people will perceive the iMac. But maybe that's not the worst thing, for people to perceive this not as a computer but more as an appliance, as something to have around the house and do 'fun' things with. Could work. Or not.
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 03:20 AM
Skycorp(on apple's website) sent up a satellite to test the wireless web capabilities. In short they think with 500 plus satellites anyone in the world in anyplace will have wireless access.
Enter Earthlink(ELNK featured on apple's website as well). Go to YAHOO, finance and enter ELNK. Look up the article that mentions 750 "hotspots". ELNK is testing wireless access in specific "hot spots". The access is 200 times faster then 56k.
Enter Apple. Digital hub with wireless internet access provide by ELNK. You pull the thing out of the box, plug it in and your done.
anyone with me on this idea?
What do ya say ARN! Can it happen? If so buy as much ELNK and APPL call options you can.
sparky
Jan 7, 2002, 03:23 AM
I would like a wireless clothes iron that doubles as a printer. print on anything, no more problems with damp or crinkled paper.
F/reW/re
Jan 7, 2002, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by sparky
hmmmm.
http://www.cannonball.com.au/imac.html
Fake all the way :)
Mausabiest
Jan 7, 2002, 03:29 AM
I just can say, well done, really cool stuff. If thats the new i-Mac, I´m going to buy it.
Smelt
Jan 7, 2002, 03:30 AM
Welcome to Spacely Sprockets.
Give me a reasonably priced Cinema Display, I've got everything else that's fast and cool. 800 2x, TiBook, iPod...
I think my Apple stock is going to take a hit.
dongmin
Jan 7, 2002, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by Smelt
I think my Apple stock is going to take a hit.
It always does...
buffsldr
Jan 7, 2002, 03:35 AM
I still say it is a hoax. None of the other links on the site even work. And.... Time's naming scheme for time.europe and time.asia differs (eg. http://www.time.com/time/asia not http://www.timeasia.com)
Originally posted by buffsldr
I still say it is a hoax. None of the other links on the site even work. And.... Time's naming scheme for time.europe and time.asia differs (eg. http://www.time.com/time/asia not http://www.timeasia.com)
but http://www.time.com/time/asia links to http://www.timecanada.com
arn
Smelt
Jan 7, 2002, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by buffsldr
I still say it is a hoax. None of the other links on the site even work. And.... Time's naming scheme for time.europe and time.asia differs (eg. http://www.time.com/time/asia not http://www.timeasia.com)
I hate to be a nay sayer and I hope I'm wrong, but I really think it's legit..Go to TimeCanada.
mikelrv
Jan 7, 2002, 03:45 AM
timecanada.com is linked from http://www.time.com.
Looks like it's the real thing
Timothy
Jan 7, 2002, 03:50 AM
I think this new iMac is the ONLY big announcement for tomorrow. Why all the pre-show hype? To get the Media excited about the show, to give the new iMac a lot of exposure. The success of the iMac is critical to Apple...and they needed to make sure the world was paying attention.
I think the rest of us are in for a lot of dissapointment. Apple knows that we'll stick around and buy their stuff...I mean look at us...we're glued to every word they say. Apple's real focus is getting the attention of everyone else. And, that's what they were attempting to do with the hype.
Forget that WE all knew some new iMac was coming...they wanted the rest of the world, who don't pay attention, to know.
I am betting against any more rabbits out of the hat. And...another MacWorld comes and goes without Apple releasing a PDA. Steve is plain wrong on this front. I respect him and what he has done for Apple, but on this one issue, he is wrong.
groov'
Jan 7, 2002, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by no_time_to_register
steve jobs walks over and removes the monitor from the base and we have a tablet.
.... unlikely,considering this paragraph from the timecanada article:
"Instead of looking like the old iMac, the thing should look more like the flowers in the garden. Jobs said, "It should look like a sunflower."
What can you do with a flower?
Pick it, iGuess...
So, there's our rumored tablet.
F/reW/re
Jan 7, 2002, 03:52 AM
Maybe Steve is playing another BIG joke on us all. What if this iMac is just 1 among many prototypes for the new iMac?
razoné
Jan 7, 2002, 04:00 AM
Don't like the design, the foot is way to big and looks stupid...no harmony! no balance feels like a prototype...
Above 1000$ will be a cube mistake...we know what computers are and we don'tbuy imacs, consumers do....consumers are simple, they only care about looks and price!!! If they soled the cube under a 1000$, it was a bomb...
Apple & time are professionals, can't believe mistakes are made here...
But what bothers me is that the hype was probably all about this imac, and that would be a major dissapointment!!!!
I can't imagine that time puts apple 2 times in row on the cover! So this was it!
****** that, i've been played as a consumer...not as a mac-lover...
Moby 1
Jan 7, 2002, 04:04 AM
...somebody has spent too much money collecting Eames era interior furnishings - I'm talk'n to YOU Mr. Ives!
tré tré Artemide
macplus
Jan 7, 2002, 04:05 AM
I'm hoping that there'll be more than just the new iMac and some software..Don't forget that there's double sided tape under every tenth chair at the keynote. Fingers crossed!
traffic
Jan 7, 2002, 04:05 AM
this new imac will be the real deal.
g4, superdrive,15"lcd, all for $1800.
sounds like a great deal to me.
maybe its not the starship enterprise, but for 99% of the general population the new imac will be the closest thing to startrek that they can imagaine.
can't wait to see the specs on the new powermacs...
Smelt
Jan 7, 2002, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by buffsldr
I still say it is a hoax. None of the other links on the site even work. And.... Time's naming scheme for time.europe and time.asia differs (eg. http://www.time.com/time/asia not http://www.timeasia.com)
I hate to be a nay sayer and I hope I'm wrong, but I really think it's legit..Go to TimeCanada.
iwantanewmac
Jan 7, 2002, 04:09 AM
IS IT GONE?
F/reW/re
Jan 7, 2002, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by razoné
Don't like the design, the foot is way to big and looks stupid...no harmony! no balance feels like a prototype...
Above 1000$ will be a cube mistake...we know what computers are and we don'tbuy imacs, consumers do....consumers are simple, they only care about looks and price!!! If they soled the cube under a 1000$, it was a bomb...
Apple & time are professionals, can't believe mistakes are made here...
But what bothers me is that the hype was probably all about this imac, and that would be a major dissapointment!!!!
I can't imagine that time puts apple 2 times in row on the cover! So this was it!
****** that, i've been played as a consumer...not as a mac-lover...
Perhaps there`s more ;)
I agree. I think Apple is thinking to much consumer and so little Powerusers :(
But maybe they will BLOW US AWAY, let`s wait and se :)
burger011
Jan 7, 2002, 04:11 AM
I'm going to bed, but hopefully you'll answer my previous post as to what you think about the ELNK/SKyCorp/Apple relationship and how I think thats the big announcement on Monday.
Dont forget....alot of space references from apple lately. And is 200 times faster then a 56k modem "full speed ahead". Call me crazy but I think I've come up with something.
One last thing, I think its interesting that the article, if I remember correctly, made NO mention of internet hardware (ethernet card etc..) because maybe they didnt know.
here is my email address....I would like to hear thoughts on this (in the morning!)
burger011@hotmail.com
altivec
Jan 7, 2002, 04:14 AM
check this out
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,1101020114,00.html
The article's removed but the headline is clear.
F/reW/re
Jan 7, 2002, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by iwantanewmac
IS IT GONE?
To late mate :) --> http://www.macminute.com/
Matt201
Jan 7, 2002, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by razoné
consumers are simple, they only care about looks and price!!! If they soled the cube under a 1000$, it was a bomb...
I LOVE the new iMac! I think it is really cool. The price tag is resonable, too. Were you hoping for a PDA? I wasn't. Not that I don't want one, but I really do not see PDAs in the market at this point. You or some of the Newton lovers might want one.. but would you still pay $1200 for a PDA? If the iMac is already too expensive, what would you complain about the PDA?
I hate to say this, but I am 100% satisfied. I was waiting for an iMac with SuperDrive, and I got one. So... I am sorry that you didn't get what you were hoping for, but the thing was, as I have said before, that we need to put our perspective here. Don't expect anything too "gound breaking" when this "ground breaking" turns into "wallet breaking" as well. I really don't think that Newton will be back. I might be new to the Mac scene, (got my first B&W G3 a couple of years ago, but I got addicted right away), but a friend of mine told me that Newton was Scully's (?) idea, and he fired Steve. The bad blood is still there, so there is no way Steve is going to give credit to Newton ever...
P.S. I hope that Newton comes back someday. I have seen one, and I was really amazed. But I don't think that this is the right time. Thaks you for listening.
Moby 1
Jan 7, 2002, 04:28 AM
and this isn't one of them.
This is a major retailer?!
What happened to the beautiful French sense of color and composition? This site looks wretched.
M1
razoné
Jan 7, 2002, 04:31 AM
i think the impact and commercial value of time is to important to play with...if you have time cover...you say what you have to say...i realy can't imagine that steve goes tomorrow to time and saiz: euuh put me back on the cover for next week....we have something revolutionary!! That sounds bs...
i'll be still hoping....
Smelt
Jan 7, 2002, 04:33 AM
http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html
Check out the new G4s and...a Newton!
i_did
Jan 7, 2002, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by burger011
Look at the cover photo....is it me or are there no cables/wires between the two. After reading the article, I got the feeling these (hub and LCD) 2 separate things.
Also, look at the bigger photo, it looks like a poll rather then a hook between the 2....
From the article:
"But instead of taking up precious desk space like a typical flat monitor, the iMac's screen floats in the air, attached to a jointed, chrome-pipe neck. ... The chrome neck is articulated and bends while maintaining the angle of the screen; it connects to the computer, an improbably small hemisphere at 26.4 cm in diameter-somewhat bigger than a halved cantaloupe."
As I said it is connected by the arm.
iapple
Jan 7, 2002, 04:45 AM
I'm real sorry that it's kind of off the topic, but I live in Japan, and they are saying the Keynote starts at 9AM..
how many more hours is that?
I'd REALLY appreciate, because I have to get my puny dial up 56k modem running steady with my ibook...
Thanks sooooo much.
yours truly iapple (a teenager in Japan)
NOW about the deal..iMac...
GREAT! That's my reaction. yes it did look wierd and terrible at the beginning I agree.. but after looking closely at it (not just that crappy 1inch time cover thumbnail!), I agree with apple. The design is new, and don't mind if i say revolutionary. I mean, where have you seen a computer that has a "arm" that conects the moniter to the computer??? Like a spaceshuttle???
I'm sure he has some clever way of handling the wires, and the superdrive tray.
As the digital hub, the iMac needs to be simple, small, so that there is room for the other devices to connect to it!
I think one of the best newses is that the consumers finally have the power of the G4, hinting the presense of a VERY fast G4 or even a G5 shortly..
I can't imagine Apple having the pro line almost the same speed as the consumer imac. I think we ca expect SPEED from the powermac, maybe not this mwsf, but certainly soon.
matt201
Jan 7, 2002, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by iapple
I'm real sorry that it's kind of off the topic, but I live in Japan, and they are saying the Keynote starts at 9AM..
how many more hours is that?
I'd REALLY appreciate, because I have to get my puny dial up 56k modem running steady with my ibook...
Thanks sooooo much.
yours truly iapple (a teenager in Japan)
Well, it is 1:51AM here in Vancouver, Canada. And the keynote is at 9AM, so about 7 hours.
Hope this helps.
iapple
Jan 7, 2002, 05:00 AM
[/B][/QUOTE]
Well, it is 1:51AM here in Vancouver, Canada. And the keynote is at 9AM, so about 7 hours.
Hope this helps. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thanks so much!
i_did
Jan 7, 2002, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
Originally posted by ThorPrime
I'm not saying the screen is detachable but it DOES NOT need a hard drive/Ram/Processor. Just an airport connection to drive the monitor remotely.
*laughs and laughs and laughs*
You go right ahead with that idea... Just think about how damn ZIPPY a computer would be with an Airport system bus! Okay starting from the beginning:
-A processor is needed to *drive* the Airport card in the iPad
-Airport isn't fast enough to handle the processor, let alone the processor, hard drive, RAM, etc, blah
-Technology to *make* Airport fast enough to do these things would REVOLUTIONIZE the wireless world... It's the IEEE 802.11b Wireless standard, understand, and there has been no signifigant speed increase in that standard since it was created
-such a device, if it *was* physically possible, would cost many many thousands of dollars... Forget breaking the Cube cost, it would break the original TAM cost!
[/B]
I don't think it's detachable, but your reasoning is flawed. AirPort is more than fast enough for a VNC client. It's just the DISPLAY that would be necessary, and the display under OS X is PDF. Since the graphics are all vector based and there ARE hooks in the OS for remote display (see mac vnc client) it COULD be done. Not that it makes any sense to waste an AirPort connection on a display. If they would make a removeable display, it would probably use something simpler than tcp/ip over 802.11. tcp/ip is too heavy a protocol. Sure they could use udp or a proprietary protocol over 802.11, but wouldn't it be simpler to use a scaled down wireless connection designed for detachable displays?
guest
Jan 7, 2002, 05:06 AM
The design is nice, clean and in line with the rest of the snow white product line. And if they could make everything fit into a cube, why shouldn't it fit into this? If it could be picked, wouldn't they say it in the article then? I think the different models are more or less the same except for the optical drive, as with the ibook. I still think we'll see dodecahedron metal case Apollos (or MAYBE G5's but i doubt it) though. A High-End line in titanium all over and the rest in white, does that make sense?
AsiaWrite
Jan 7, 2002, 05:31 AM
The margins of market share are won and lost on the battlefields of "mindshare"...
Now is the time to take the battle to MS and show them that Windows is garbage for people who want to be creative, productive, energetic, youthful or inspired!
In the same way that O-B-L should be locked up and the key should be thrown away, all the product keys for Windows should be thrown away with all the clunky PCs they come on, never to be seen in the light of day again.
I challenge all Mac users to prove just how inadequate Windows is compared to the Mac. For those who complain about Aqua, then your memories of Windows' history is short, or you've forgotten how long it took to get a threaded UI on top of NT 3.1 (9 years - aka XP), or how long it took to get rid of DOS (16 years) or how long it took to get new icons for FreeCell, MS Paint and all those other lovely staples of the "Windows Experience" (9 years).
The Mozilla/Netscape 6.x project is going into its sixth year, but Mac users fret about where the Dock resides and what it interferes with. This is short-sighted and a waste of time.
... and that is the point every Mac user should be pounding their Windows counterparts with every chance they get! Windows anything will cost them time (as in days and weeks out of their lives, wasted on nothing more than endless reboots, service pack installs, virus definition updates, printer driver problems and last but not least, endless talk of the newest P4 that will make their current P4/AMD system obsolete 3 months after they bought it. Oh... and did I forget the idiots in tech support at PC manufacturers who ASSUME everyone is as dumb and blind as they are, willing to pay $$$ and hours trying to figure out why Windows XP won't rip CBR MP3 files?
... Think Different
... Be Different
... Pound Windows Now!!!
telecine
Jan 7, 2002, 06:50 AM
Oh dear!
The iMac2 design looks horrible. A wireless keyboard and mouse must be part of the package.
I hope Time get sued though.. . Apple forgot the golden rule... 'Never trust a journalist'.
iwantanewmac
Jan 7, 2002, 06:52 AM
I say it's a fake
paulwhannel
Jan 7, 2002, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by i_did
I don't think it's detachable, but your reasoning is flawed. AirPort is more than fast enough for a VNC client. It's just the DISPLAY that would be necessary, and the display under OS X is PDF. Since the graphics are all vector based and there ARE hooks in the OS for remote display (see mac vnc client) it COULD be done. Not that it makes any sense to waste an AirPort connection on a display. If they would make a removeable display, it would probably use something simpler than tcp/ip over 802.11. tcp/ip is too heavy a protocol. Sure they could use udp or a proprietary protocol over 802.11, but wouldn't it be simpler to use a scaled down wireless connection designed for detachable displays? [/B]
I see your point, and yes my reasoning was in fact flawed, in as much as all of the system bus would be housed in the base. Don't quite know what i was thinking, i stand corrected. Although the subject is dead, i do point out that FCC regulations require that Airport be a minimum of 20 inches from all other antennas (and people), so when the display was on the unit, the Airport connections would be too close together for FCC compliance. Just a technicality. But theoretically a scaled down version of Airport might work around this (another possible intention of AirSurf, i might add).. There would still have to be some sort of processor controlling input/output - video and pen/keyboard in the pad, correct? I'm just plain curious now.... Okay maybe I should just drop it ;)
Apologies all around for my misguided snap :)
And yeah, I'll register... later ;)
http://www.forked.net/www.timecanada.com/index2.html
Enjoy.
b8rtm8nn
Jan 7, 2002, 07:01 AM
I liked one of Gateway's all-in-ones that is similar to this, but used really crappy parts. I'm glad they didn't use the modified Apple Display mock-up versions people thought they would, since those displays are ugly.
This will sell like crazy, and I still hope for G5s....
bongfish
Jan 7, 2002, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by venom72
Maybe I'm the only one noticing this, but there are a couple of issues at hand with this "early release":
1. All of the other issues (i.e. Asia, pacific, europe) have a web address of http://www.time.com/time/asia , etc
there is no such cananda address.
instead we get timecanada. There may be a law, but laws can be broken.
2. Looks like either it is a cut and paste job, or time canada needs to hire a new web designer, as there are obvious aliasing issues around "TIME" on the timecanada's homepage. Also, the time sites have "time" and then a large ASIA, etc, by it. different designer JUST for Canada's site?
3. Many links on the site return you to time US or are "coming soon". Pretty unprofessional for time-warner, right?
4. OK, I realize that I am probably an idiot conspiracy theory sort of guy, but I wouldn't expect any less from some of the people out there with too much time on their hands, or even a mac publicist having fun with a discarded prototype. With all the recent hype, iwalk drove me nutz, and if this is a fake, its an even better one, but don't rule out the possibilty.
Just food for thought.
NOW!? What about this?
Registrant:
Time Inc. New Media (TIMECANADA-DOM)
1271 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
US
Domain Name: TIMECANADA.COM
Administrative Contact:
Domain Administration (PD288-ORG) domain_admin@TIMEINC.NET
Time Inc. Internet Technologies
212-522-9565
Fax- 212-522-9514
Technical Contact:
Domain Operations (PD287-ORG) domain_tech@TIMEINC.NET
Time Inc. Internet Technologies
212-522-9565
Fax- 212-522-9514
Billing Contact:
idNames, Accounting (IA90-ORG) accounting@IDNAMES.COM
idNames from Network Solutions, Inc
440 Benmar
Suite #3325
Houston, TX 77060
US
703-742-4777
Fax- - 281-447-1160
Record last updated on 20-Sep-2001.
Record expires on 15-Dec-2002.
Record created on 15-Dec-1998.
Database last updated on 6-Jan-2002 20:46:00 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS-03.NS.AOL.COM 152.163.159.238
DNS-04.NS.AOL.COM 205.188.157.238
Geez!
bongfish
Jan 7, 2002, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by tadpole
hey guys when you run whois for both Time.com and Timecanada.com, you get two different host servers, not even remotely related. If it is truly the same corporation they would usually outsource their stuff to the same serving entity. http://www.TIMECANADA.COM is served by AOL. This reeks of a hoax.
THIS IS TIME.com
Registrant:
Time Inc. Magazine (TIME-DOM)
Time + Life Building
1271 Ave of the Americas
Rockefeller Center
New York, NY 10020
Domain Name: TIME.COM
Administrative Contact:
Domain Administration (PD288-ORG) domain_admin@TIMEINC.NET
Time Inc. Internet Technologies
212-522-9565
Fax- 212-522-9514
Technical Contact:
Domain Operations (PD287-ORG) domain_tech@TIMEINC.NET
Time Inc. Internet Technologies
212-522-9565
Fax- 212-522-9514
Billing Contact:
idNames, Accounting (IA90-ORG) accounting@IDNAMES.COM
idNames from Network Solutions, Inc
440 Benmar
Suite #3325
Houston, TX 77060
US
703-742-4777
Fax- - 281-447-1160
Record last updated on 21-Nov-2001.
Record expires on 20-Nov-2003.
Record created on 19-Nov-1993.
Database last updated on 6-Jan-2002 20:46:00 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.PATHFINDER.COM 209.251.208.19
NS2.PATHFINDER.COM 209.251.208.20
AND CANADA FINALY:
Registrant:
Time Inc. New Media (TIMECANADA-DOM)
1271 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
US
Domain Name: TIMECANADA.COM
Administrative Contact:
Domain Administration (PD288-ORG) domain_admin@TIMEINC.NET
Time Inc. Internet Technologies
212-522-9565
Fax- 212-522-9514
Technical Contact:
Domain Operations (PD287-ORG) domain_tech@TIMEINC.NET
Time Inc. Internet Technologies
212-522-9565
Fax- 212-522-9514
Billing Contact:
idNames, Accounting (IA90-ORG) accounting@IDNAMES.COM
idNames from Network Solutions, Inc
440 Benmar
Suite #3325
Houston, TX 77060
US
703-742-4777
Fax- - 281-447-1160
Record last updated on 20-Sep-2001.
Record expires on 15-Dec-2002.
Record created on 15-Dec-1998.
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gandalf55
Jan 7, 2002, 07:45 AM
#1. Design looks terrible.
#2. Apple def. should sue Time
#3. Perhaps the suit will = $$$ cause these iMacs2 look bad
#4. Lets hope Apple rolls out A LOT more than this today
mymemory
Jan 7, 2002, 07:56 AM
I'm back, this forum is not complete without my comments.
The iMac looks fine, lets see the show first.
For all of you that want to buy one right now, I recomend you to wait at list 3 more monts.
The first production always comes with defects, specially with that arm holding the LCD, whait for others to test the unit first and whait for the revisions.
Argo1000
Jan 7, 2002, 08:04 AM
Hi group;
Two TV-related notes here ...
1. Lou Dobbs MoneyLine on CNN has Steve Jobs as a guest tonight at 6PM EST. They're running spots for it now, showing Jobs with the new iMac.
2. Hmmm... maybe Jobs' new friendship with Dean Kamen (the guy who invented the Segway HT uberscooter AND also the guy behind the popular Robot Wars TV series with all the little R/C killer robots fighting) has had more of an effect than anyone thought.
The new CyberiMac probably has a remote-control / wireless keyboard (?), so stick some skateboard wheels, a battering ram and DVD-slot flame thrower on that baby and you are ready to
*** KICK SOME PC ROBOT ASS!!!!!!!! ***
:-)
detroitsuperfly
Jan 7, 2002, 08:37 AM
That is ugly as F%&#
iapple
Jan 7, 2002, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by mymemory
I'm back, this forum is not complete without my comments.
The iMac looks fine, lets see the show first.
For all of you that want to buy one right now, I recomend you to wait at list 3 more monts.
The first production always comes with defects, specially with that arm holding the LCD, whait for others to test the unit first and whait for the revisions.
Good point. that arm does look a little frimzy... if you know what I mean. And honestly, i think the thing looks better than it seems from those TIME photos. Let JOBS introduce it. Don't let some crummy TIME journalist introduce the new iMac with orrible photos!
Give Steve a chance
By the way, how much longer do we have to wait? (remember? I'm the Japan guy that's too stupid to work out time differences!) Is it about 2-3 hours to go?
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Steve, every time, I forgive you!
gandalf55
Jan 7, 2002, 08:46 AM
surely doesn't look very elegant... i mean a cantaloupe cut in half is fine for a cantaloupe. personally i would have thought that building the compoenents into the back of the display would have been the better route... just about all of it would have been hidden. and you won't be able to repurpose that lcd anyway right? how cool would it be to have 2 flatpanels next to one another... and have people wonder where the computer was ;)
perhaps this is a scam... but it's looking to be real.
"way beyond the rumor sites" ?
i think we have been discussing flat panel iMac for a very long time... so what could Apple be talking about? it sure isn't iPhoto.... it isn't this iMac everyone knew was coming out (lcd orders), it isn't even Winblows usage of the iPod (we knew about that already by visiting iPodhack.com)...
if its not the iWalk, and it's not G4s at around 1.6Ghz, and it's not g5s... did Apple set itself up for another letdown? i mean, we have been talking about a set-top Apple dvd player too...
who knows... i hope that my eyes tear up with lust today and Apple really suprises us all with some kick-ass stuff. i know the economy isn't great... but Apple has hyped the hell out of this one themselves. bring it on Apple!!! ;)
detroitsuperfly
Jan 7, 2002, 08:49 AM
That ugly monstrosity has got to be a decoy. Apple/Jobs have gone out of their way in the past to distract us MacGeeks from the real products. They've been taunting us all last week, this is no different.
Captain Easychord
Jan 7, 2002, 08:49 AM
I live in Toronto, Canada and I actually saw the cover of Time with the new iMac this morning. IT IS TRUE!!! I didn't have the opportunity to read the entire article so I can't confirm any specs or prices, but I must say that it looks far better in the print photos than on the web... the crome arm is actually really cool. You'll all see very, very soon.
BTW, it is being promoted as the "digital hub" so many of you have been talking about.
gandalf55
Jan 7, 2002, 08:53 AM
UGH...
the $1,200 G4 LCD desk lamp...
I wonder if it comes with a nightlight attachment?
detroitsuperfly
Jan 7, 2002, 08:56 AM
This has GOT to be a decoy....PLEEEEASE!!!!!
Maxx
Jan 7, 2002, 09:09 AM
Does anyone have the actual link to the time canada article on the new imac? timecanada.com now redirects people to time.com :(
iThink therefore iAm
Jan 7, 2002, 09:17 AM
K, get this,
you put your hands around the base station, like you do with those plasma balls, concentrate a little, and when the pulses a white light all over you've established a connection.
Then all you do is THINK commands and words, and they appear on the screen.
Now THAT would blow my socks off!
zekemon
Jan 7, 2002, 09:17 AM
Read the article - http://unixgen.muohio.edu/~runyonr/communist_squirrel/misc/timecanadaimac.txt
It says that the G4 Cube was $1800, and the low-end iMac will be $1300.
hotch
Jan 7, 2002, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by wildgift
I hope it's quiet, and lacks a fan. I hate my computers that have noisy fans. Ugh. That whirring noise makes me yearn for an old 16 bit computer without a fan. I've only owned two computers with fans, and have tried hard to silence them :-)
I doubt they could build a G4 sans fan
Cisco
Jan 7, 2002, 09:26 AM
Thanks BZ for letting me get a look at the article. The text certainly implies that this is the "big thing". All I can do is hope that the Time banner statement "There's alswys more to the story" applies here.
evanmarx
Jan 7, 2002, 09:26 AM
also the main time site has this already up ...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,1101020114,00.html
silencedwm
Jan 7, 2002, 09:32 AM
This is gonna be the big announcement. Like a few people have mentioned (maybe not on this forum; I'm cycling between 3 or 4 different forums and lost track of what I read where several hours ago), Time is the big gun. You don't squander an opportunity to get a 7 page, full color advertisement into the hands of millions upon millions of people all over the globe. If Apple had something more seductive for the masses, that's what would have been highlighted in the interview with Time.
Now, that's not to say that there won't be news that is more important to real Mac freaks. Separate the audiences; Time is read by your average consumer all over the world. They have different interests than those of us that haven't slept the last week to make sure we catch the latest slogan on apple.com. There could be some news that is bland for anybody not accustomed to the wonderful Apple experience (read; 95 out of every 100 people reading Time) that is going to make the rest of us (the 5 out of that 100 that that has some idea of what computers are capable of being) collectively wet ourselves. Could be just about anything; wireless devices or improved wireless internet, USB 2.0, the G5 (doubtful, in my mind, but within the realm of possibility), a digital camera from the iPod school of thought.
It's been a week. The next 3 1/2 hours are going to kill me. Christmas was never this good.
cplmd
Jan 7, 2002, 09:39 AM
Another type of computer? that's it? photo software?
Sorry this thing doesn't exactly make we want to go out and get one - this will bomb like the cube.
When the iPod was introduced, how long before the announcement was the online Apple Store closed?
Also, what were the satellite coordinates that Apple released earlier for?
[Edited by Max on 01-07-2002 at 09:51 AM]
Originally posted by iThink therefore iAm
K, get this,
you put your hands around the base station, like you do with those plasma balls, concentrate a little, and when the pulses a white light all over you've established a connection.
Then all you do is THINK commands and words, and they appear on the screen.
Now THAT would blow my socks off!
Even that wouldn't live up to the hype Apple has been giving it! ;)
guest
Jan 7, 2002, 10:28 AM
Dear Hotch:
Of course they can build G4's without a fan! Ever listened to a Cube???
evanmarx
Jan 7, 2002, 10:28 AM
now the only thing that is missing:
"on the cover of the Rolling Stone!"
[Dr. Hook .. i think]
evanmarx
Jan 7, 2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by guest
Dear Hotch:
Of course they can build G4's without a fan! Ever listened to a Cube???
hmpff ... mate .. ever listened to an imac????
the "old" imac has no fan either ....!
so...figure ...
Paul777
Jan 7, 2002, 10:30 AM
Don't forget to ask Sylvia's mother!!
evanmarx
Jan 7, 2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Paul777
Don't forget to ask Sylvia's mother!!
http://www.sylviasmother.com/
Paul777
Jan 7, 2002, 10:49 AM
I really hope this is worth the wait. I sold my G4 450 Cube & 17" CRT Studio Display last week, in anticipation of the new "Desktop".
A G4 with a Superdrive would make my day!
[Edited by Paul777 on 01-07-2002 at 10:52 AM]
webmasterkai
Jan 7, 2002, 10:51 AM
view the original at
http://www-stg.timecanada.com/
Paul777
Jan 7, 2002, 10:54 AM
That link requires a login
webmasterkai
Jan 7, 2002, 10:55 AM
sorry, they fixed it! Also fixed http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp
I'm not sure I understand why. TIME is already out in the big airports!
evanmarx
Jan 7, 2002, 10:55 AM
check http://www.apple.com/home
it's up ... it says
SPOILER!!!!!
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1.new imac
2.time magazine
3. 14' ibook!
iPhoto
evanmarx
Jan 7, 2002, 10:57 AM
SPOILER!!!!!.
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15' lcd
800 Mhz G4 (Velocity Engine)
Geforce2 mX
Superdrive
Firewire (no Gigawire here)
Apple Pro Speakers
Airport
and software
[Edited by evanmarx on 01-07-2002 at 10:59 AM]
Paul777
Jan 7, 2002, 10:59 AM
Check further down on that link.
14" iBook !!!!!!!!!!!!
iwantanewmac
Jan 7, 2002, 11:00 AM
erm a G4 with a superdrive has been around for sometime. In fact I'm looking at 1 right now.
Paul777
Jan 7, 2002, 11:02 AM
Only for you rich guys.
evanmarx
Jan 7, 2002, 11:07 AM
damn ...
i feel like a freaking paparazzi ...
i will stop posting now for the next 5 hours ...over
Paul777
Jan 7, 2002, 11:12 AM
Is the 14" iBook the long lost Son of Pismo?
This was rumored 6 months ago.......
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