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TigerPRO
Apr 7, 2005, 04:37 PM
I got this email this afternoon. It's a pretty funny cloy by some desperate virus writers. But I think they need to do some more market research; I don't user windows anymore. :)

The website that link took me too is a stunning rendition of the Windows Update site. I was truely impressed. If it wasn't for the IP address based URL, and the same ".exe" files linked too for both "Express" and "Custom" installs, they'd have a pretty convincing tactic. lol.



wwooden
Apr 7, 2005, 05:18 PM
I wonder how many people are going to fall for that. It does look REALLY good. I know none of us Mac people will ever get e-mails like that because we do all our updating through the Software update. I REALLY feel bad for the suckers that fall for that.

TigerPRO
Apr 7, 2005, 05:27 PM
I wonder how many people are going to fall for that. It does look REALLY good. I know none of us Mac people will ever get e-mails like that because we do all our updating through the Software update. I REALLY feel bad for the suckers that fall for that.

My guess would be about 90% of all internet users would fall for it. If you saw their website too, it would be even more convincing...

I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to post the link, even though this is a Mac site with mostly Mac users???? Probably not.

paulypants
Apr 7, 2005, 05:59 PM
OMG thats too funny, numbers of people are responding to that very email right now...

PlaceofDis
Apr 7, 2005, 06:01 PM
OMG thats too funny, numbers of people are responding to that very email right now...

all the more reason as to why spammers need to be shut down, tactics like this are just wrong, im glad that im a smart computer user and have a Mac

TigerPRO
Apr 7, 2005, 07:24 PM
im glad that im a smart computer user and have a Mac

Yeah, I think those two usually go hand in hand.

Timelessblur
Apr 7, 2005, 07:28 PM
well what is email address though. It woudl make since to send out a group email that covers 95% of the people and it a good safe way to get everything updated that needs to be done and to help prevent the spred of virus so I think it a good think MS is going though the trouble to email everyone.

I know my hotmail account gets emails like this from time to time.

TigerPRO
Apr 7, 2005, 07:44 PM
well what is email address though. It woudl make since to send out a group email that covers 95% of the people and it a good safe way to get everything updated that needs to be done and to help prevent the spred of virus so I think it a good think MS is going though the trouble to email everyone.

I know my hotmail account gets emails like this from time to time.

The email headers were forged, so it looked like it was coming from "update@microsoft.com", which it really wasn't. And it would not really be a good idea for Microsoft to send out updates via email. Because with these kinds of tricks, it would help spread viruses, not help prevent them. Of course, my only advice to windows users is "Get a Mac".

Mav451
Apr 7, 2005, 07:46 PM
It is true though, most JoeSchmoe/Grandma would fall for this trap.

Of course, any more technical user would already be questioning getting an email, from Microsoft at that. And secondly, to update? You tell me when in Microsoft's history they have sent out emails to their customers?

Mechcozmo
Apr 7, 2005, 07:53 PM
well what is email address though. It woudl make since to send out a group email that covers 95% of the people and it a good safe way to get everything updated that needs to be done and to help prevent the spred of virus so I think it a good think MS is going though the trouble to email everyone.


Hehehehe. It isn't Microsoft. It's a spammer sending out a virus-laden website. MS doesn't send out emails like that.

Timelessblur
Apr 7, 2005, 08:01 PM
It is true though, most JoeSchmoe/Grandma would fall for this trap.

Of course, any more technical user would already be questioning getting an email, from Microsoft at that. And secondly, to update? You tell me when in Microsoft's history they have sent out emails to their customers?


good point. The close I gotten is one reminding me to update. but it was from hotmail it self. there was a link to thier main site

Mechcozmo
Apr 7, 2005, 09:36 PM
good point. The close I gotten is one reminding me to update. but it was from hotmail it self. there was a link to thier main site

Even hotmail. SMTP headers and such can be spoofed. You can send an email that looks like it was sent from Microsoft or Hotmail (aka, MS) but it really ISN'T from them.

Essentially, you are the target of these emails. People that didn't know MS doesn't send out friendly reminders. At least now you won't be susceptible to them now-- but with ~95% marketshare, that's a lot of people that are vulnerable.......

Timelessblur
Apr 7, 2005, 11:22 PM
Even hotmail. SMTP headers and such can be spoofed. You can send an email that looks like it was sent from Microsoft or Hotmail (aka, MS) but it really ISN'T from them.

Essentially, you are the target of these emails. People that didn't know MS doesn't send out friendly reminders. At least now you won't be susceptible to them now-- but with ~95% marketshare, that's a lot of people that are vulnerable.......

I pretty much they get trashed on my computer. By closes it was part of one of hotmails starden emails from them. It had what you need to do to keep you computer safe. a artical on Microsoft site. I do keep my windows box up today and I know what I doning. THe best advice to advord crap like that is dont have one of the big free accounts from hotmail or yahoo and dont have a comon email address. For example I use Timelessblur@*******.*** and since it not a taken email address and never has numbers in it misses most of the spam like that. The random name generator dont get it. The ISP email address is ont of the safest. since they genral have a much smaller user data base so spamer dont bother with them. Hit the @hotmail.com and @yahoo.com or @aol.com since those are among the largest data bases out thier so random names you have better luck with.

woodsey
Apr 7, 2005, 11:37 PM
You know that opening the email and downloading the images you could have notified the spammer that your address is 'alive'?

Your email addres could now be added to a list of thousands of 'responsive' email addresses and sold to spammers.

To stop this happening, switch off "Display embeded images and objects in HTML messages", in Mail's Viewing Preference Pane. If an email is legit, and you want to load the images, you just click the 'load images' button above the email message

TigerPRO
Apr 8, 2005, 12:35 AM
You know that opening the email and downloading the images you could have notified the spammer that your address is 'alive'?

Your email addres could now be added to a list of thousands of 'responsive' email addresses and sold to spammers.

To stop this happening, switch off "Display embeded images and objects in HTML messages", in Mail's Viewing Preference Pane. If an email is legit, and you want to load the images, you just click the 'load images' button above the email message

Yes, I'm fully aware of that tactic as well. Which is why I first copied and pasted the URL into my browser to make sure it didn't pass any information through the URL to a script on the website. I'm entirely immune to spammers. Nothing fools me.

Mechcozmo
Apr 8, 2005, 04:39 PM
I'm entirely immune to spammers. Nothing fools me.

A bit cocky, eh?

I guess I'm the same way sometimes, purposely going to sites that friends say makes their computer slow down (malware, anyone?) and then ask them why I don't have issues.

:rolleyes:

Mostly free game sites and stuff, hehe. Sucks for them.

TrashCanDan
Apr 8, 2005, 06:10 PM
Its made the news Link (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1509&ncid=738&e=10&u=/afp/20050408/tc_afp/usinternetsecurity)

TigerPRO
Apr 8, 2005, 06:20 PM
A bit cocky, eh?

I guess I'm the same way sometimes, purposely going to sites that friends say makes their computer slow down (malware, anyone?) and then ask them why I don't have issues.

:rolleyes:

Mostly free game sites and stuff, hehe. Sucks for them.

Cocky in the sense I don't claim to be an idiot.

TigerPRO
Apr 8, 2005, 06:21 PM
Its made the news Link (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1509&ncid=738&e=10&u=/afp/20050408/tc_afp/usinternetsecurity)

That's very interesting. Thanks for posting.