What's with all the trolls? [Archive]

ravenvii

Apr 20, 2005, 04:45 PM

It seems we have a troll infestation problem. It seems all I've been hearing lately is trolls that, trolls this, and trolls everywhere!

Have the trolls crawled out from under the bridge? Or poured out of the witch's house? Or flooded in from the PC forums? Or were they merely impostors who secretly wish they are real trolls? Or some figured, maybe since Mac users are so easy to troll, it'd be a great practice for the real Troll Games?

This is a medal of honor to you, honored trolls. May your pathetic, meaningless lives take a shine from the attention I have provided you with this post. Behold!

iGary

Apr 20, 2005, 04:48 PM

joetronic

Apr 20, 2005, 04:51 PM

I noticed that, too. Seems like a lot of newbies with attitudes.

"Hey I stole some software and it won't work."

"Sorry, we can't help you with illegal stuff."

"Don't preach to me and be all high and mighty blah de blah de blah." :rolleyes:

Thats funny gary. I noticed a lot too as of late, but what can you do but just ignore.

Blue Velvet

Apr 20, 2005, 04:51 PM

There's a serious buzz about Apple at the mo. Those who don't want to jump on the bandwagon are jeering impotently from the sidelines.

Losers.

Lacero

Apr 20, 2005, 04:54 PM

It seems we have a troll infestation problem.Maybe you are the problem? And don't accuse people of being trolls until you read and learn all the facts first! This sort of posts just boils my blood! http://www3.telus.net/poojja/s/evilmad.gif

daveL

Apr 20, 2005, 04:59 PM

I think it's just all the media attention Apple has gotten lately, especially Tiger and the inevitable, mostly MS negative, comparisons to Longhorn.

As much as I am a Mac fan, and a very long term MS detractor, I have never visited a PC forum to throw stones. I think a lot, but certainly not all, of the trolling comes from the younger gaming crowd.

edesignuk

Apr 20, 2005, 05:04 PM

As ever folks, report it ;)

Lacero

Apr 20, 2005, 05:11 PM

As ever folks, report it ;)
I would report, but it would be a conflict of interest. http://www3.telus.net/poojja/s/hmm.gif

mkrishnan

Apr 20, 2005, 05:16 PM

Well, if they were skinheads, I'd say we should loss.take them bowling (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=6923990&selectedItemId=6923976) , but since they're not, I'm frankly at a loss. :(

I did particularly appreciate the one where someone complained because their gold master would not install. Might as well make their sig, "Golly, I'm breaking the law! :)"

:rolleyes:

Or is the appropriate aphorism that, when you're a troll, everything looks like a drawbridge?

*hopes this thread isn't actually about him*

ravenvii

Apr 20, 2005, 05:25 PM

Lacero, you should take reading comprehension 101. This post isn't referring to anyone in particular, just the general air of the forums lately.

Lacero

Apr 20, 2005, 05:28 PM

Unbelievable. First you insinuate I am a troll, now you say I am... ah I give up.http://www3.telus.net/poojja/s/shutup2.gif

iGary

Apr 20, 2005, 05:30 PM

This place is great, and I love the way it is moderated.

I used to run a political discussion board that was "no rules," and I had my e-mail accounts hacked, my board hijacked by a disloyal moderator (locked me out) etc. etc. etc.

Rules definitely work.

SFVCyclone

Apr 20, 2005, 05:31 PM

there should be a way to check if the trolls own a mac mini, ouch ;)

edesignuk

Apr 20, 2005, 05:36 PM

Unbelievable. First you insinuate I am a troll, now you say I am... ah I give up.http://www3.telus.net/poojja/s/shutup2.gifNo he didn't, calm down :rolleyes:

mkrishnan

Apr 20, 2005, 05:41 PM

there should be a way to check if the trolls own a mac mini, ouch ;)

But those kinds of trolls are okay...because eventually, they will see the light. ;)

keysersoze

Apr 20, 2005, 05:45 PM

But those kinds of trolls are okay...because eventually, they will see the light. ;)

I love it when trolls come out to play.

because then people squash them...

i miss the macros. :(

SFVCyclone

Apr 20, 2005, 05:46 PM

But those kinds of trolls are okay...because eventually, they will see the light. ;)

VERY true. ;)

clayj

Apr 20, 2005, 05:46 PM

there should be a way to check if the trolls own a mac mini, ouch ;)Hey, *I* own a Mac mini... :)

SFVCyclone

Apr 20, 2005, 05:48 PM

Hey, *I* own a Mac mini... :)

BUT most likely it is not your first Mac, i hope ;)

clayj

Apr 20, 2005, 05:50 PM

BUT most likely it is not your first Mac, i hope ;)It's the first Mac I've personally owned, yes. Used to use one quite infrequently when I worked for Microsoft (supporting Excel on the Mac).

Balin64

Apr 20, 2005, 05:51 PM

Yes, I've noticed a couple of threads with questionable intentions. I say we just send the Knights MacRumborites after them.

Classic example was the clown that posted the PM G4 he turned into a trash bin. He was looking to get a rise out of us. Moronic Fool.

I do think that these forums are sometimes too quick to judge/accuse/chastise: especially on pirating issues. That's just my opinion.

Otherwise, great community.

Knights MacRumborites... Charge!

brap

Apr 20, 2005, 05:56 PM

Classic example was the clown that posted the PM G4 he turned into a trash bin. He was looking to get a rise out of us. Moronic Fool.But he did. *sigh*

The easiest way to control this is to just let them do what they do until they get bored.

Lacero

Apr 20, 2005, 05:57 PM

So was he banned? And I have not seen that thread. If someone could provide a link.

Mitthrawnuruodo

Apr 20, 2005, 06:00 PM

So was he banned? And I have not seen that thread. If someone could provide a link.
I thought the Macintrash (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=121289) was hillarious... :D

CanadaRAM

Apr 20, 2005, 06:00 PM

Lacero, you should take reading comprehension 101. This post isn't referring to anyone in particular, just the general air of the forums lately.
Raven, if you look up "lacero" in the dictionary, the definition is "...oblique approach, liable to be misunderstood on the surface but often carrying undercurrents of satire or irony"

The problem with satirical posts, of course, is that they can go either way - the poster can say "No I was serious" or "didn't you see I was being satirical?" depending...

Balin64

Apr 20, 2005, 06:01 PM

But he did. *sigh*

The easiest way to control this is to just let them do what they do until they get bored.

Yes, unfortunately he did. It is just difficult for the collective not to respond to malicious posts like that...

It would be great if we can all pull it off someday: just leave the thread with no responds... and then delete it!

James Philp

Apr 20, 2005, 06:06 PM

Classic example was the clown that posted the PM G4 he turned into a trash bin. He was looking to get a rise out of us. Moronic Fool.
I still maintain it looked better than most PC's I've seen!

Yes, the trolls have come out to play big time! - Anyone would think that Apple have a kick-your-development-shedule-back-a-decade-ass OS update coming out?! :p

mkrishnan

Apr 20, 2005, 06:09 PM

I thought the Macintrash (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=121289) was hillarious... :D

I thought that was cute, too. After all, he did say it was a *broken* PMG4. :rolleyes:

jared_kipe

Apr 20, 2005, 06:32 PM

I thought that was cute, too. After all, he did say it was a *broken* PMG4. :rolleyes:

Plus, he took of the sides to keep them from getting scratched, doesn't that show dedication?

mkrishnan

Apr 20, 2005, 06:43 PM

Plus, he took of the sides to keep them from getting scratched, doesn't that show dedication?

True, true. That thread wass nothing at all like the scene in Office Space with the Public Enemy and the smashing of fax machines. *gets distracted and goes off to see if that song is in iTunes*

James Philp

Apr 20, 2005, 06:55 PM

The Mac Trash thread reminded me of that fake thing that went round where a guy "installed" a PC inside a PM case.
Trolls are Funny! :D

mkrishnan

Apr 20, 2005, 07:46 PM

The Mac Trash thread reminded me of that fake thing that went round where a guy "installed" a PC inside a PM case.
Trolls are Funny! :D

Haven't any modders really done that? Not that it isn't stupid. But they've made the UI on XP look like OS X, so why not? Ahhh, this reminds me of how psychoanalysts used to have the theory that the wearing of makeup was a manifestation of the neuroticism inherent in women. :rolleyes:

Inspector Lee

Apr 20, 2005, 10:48 PM

Classic example was the clown that posted the PM G4 he turned into a trash bin. He was looking to get a rise out of us. Moronic Fool.

The only thing that got me about that post was when his little minion through his hat in the ring about half way down.

anonymous161

Apr 21, 2005, 09:06 AM

I have found the best way to deal with trolls is to tell them "I love you" repeatedly, making sure to throw in "You're sexy" and "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" where appropriate... but alas, another story for another time.....

840quadra

Apr 21, 2005, 09:41 AM

it sucks!

When I was a Nubee this must have been getting old to lots on Macrumors. I had a good initial welcome, but after that I got a bit of cold shoulder from the Macrumor gang :(

There appears to be lots of negative vibes directed at many of the hardware related posts. I am not sure why people go out of their way to come here to start useless negative posts. Wonder if it has to do with Summer coming up, and people in High School and College taking out end of the year stress on us loyal Mac users.

I hope i don't appear to be a troll to many of the Macrumor regulars, I am just on the internet allot during work, and consider myself chatty.

iGary

Apr 21, 2005, 09:47 AM

The Macintrash was hilarious. ;)

Mitthrawnuruodo

Apr 21, 2005, 09:52 AM

The Macintrash was hilarious. ;)Yes, wasn't it... I cannot wait until the old BW G3 at my girlfriends work are busted... I want to make the world coolest umbrella rack... :D

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 09:57 AM

So can open, worms everywhere, *someone* got banned last night / this morning. Who might've been who we were talking about here, but I dunno if he really counted as a troll, per se. Oh well, *mumbles something about respecting the judgment of the mods*, hopefully he can come back later if he can behave himself.... :rolleyes:

840quadra

Apr 21, 2005, 10:26 AM

Yes, wasn't it... I cannot wait until the old BW G3 at my girlfriends work are busted... I want to make the world coolest umbrella rack... :D

Sad :(

I just got my B&W in Febuary of this year, if I hadn't been trigger happy for a new macintosh for my collection that day, I would never have built my G4, and purchased my new G5.

I fell in love with New Macintosh computers again because of someone's used G3.

oh well

< / hijack > :p

anonymous161

Apr 21, 2005, 10:58 AM

Speaking of trolls, check out this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=121433)

WinterMute

Apr 21, 2005, 11:17 AM

Speaking of trolls, check out this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=121433)

Checked it, closed it.

I think it's bad enough that they emerge from the shadows before every major update of Apple hardware or software, without Raven using it as a dating opportunity... :D ;)

hulugu

Apr 21, 2005, 11:18 AM

It's the first Mac I've personally owned, yes. Used to use one quite infrequently when I worked for Microsoft (supporting Excel on the Mac).

You worked for the Mac Business Unit? Cool

SFVCyclone

Apr 21, 2005, 11:35 AM

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 11:37 AM

Checked it, closed it.

I think it's bad enough that they emerge from the shadows before every major update of Apple hardware or software, without Raven using it as a dating opportunity... :D ;)

Excellent use of the Raven approach! :) Hmmm...now I just need a way to get hit on more that doesn't involve being a troll....

anonymous161

Apr 21, 2005, 11:52 AM

Actually I think Raven was using the anonymous161 approach, but I must say Raven has implemented much better than I ever could.

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 11:54 AM

Actually I think Raven was using the anonymous161 approach, but I must say Raven has implemented much better than I ever could.

Well, you're both sexxxy in my book. :p :eek: :D

Mitthrawnuruodo

Apr 21, 2005, 11:57 AM

so what exactly is a troll?Some examples... :D

WinterMute

Apr 21, 2005, 12:05 PM

so what exactly is a troll? i for example have about 300 posts, still a newbie to some people but i have been a loyal Mac fan for well over 8 years, still have a 6116cd performa still works too, bought it new too, so what exactly is a troll, some one who nobody cant find a reason why they spent so much of their time signing up to the forum and all just to flame? or is a troll a little creature that come out from under a bridge? :D

In my book a troll is someone who joins to post inflammatory remarks just to get the forums all riled up and start a flame war.

The activity of trolling can also be described as multiple useless and inflammatory remarks to a thread designed to derail discussion into bickering and argument.

Trolls usually hit and run, but sometimes quite senior members of a forum will do a little trolling...

The bloke in the thread listed above is a clasic troll, one post and then sits back to watch the faithfull leap to condemn him.

Hence the phrase "Please do not feed the troll".

Trolls in mythology are neither little or harmless, European ones turn to stone in sunlight (at least they do in Prof. Tolkiens books) AD&D trolls regenerate damage after you've belted them with a large weapon, so you need to set them on fire to stop them...

sorryiwasdreami

Apr 21, 2005, 12:16 PM

Plus, he took of the sides to keep them from getting scratched, doesn't that show dedication?

Yeah, but then he says this:

"Dude, I wasn't worried about fine cuts. It's a trashcan.

just like any other mac"

I can appreciate being creative with mac hardware but he proceeds to say that the reason he made it a trash can was that macs are trash. Dumb.

plinden

Apr 21, 2005, 12:19 PM

so what exactly is a troll?
You want a serious answer? It's a fishing term, definition below is from www.m-w.com:

transitive senses
1 : to cause to move round and round : ROLL
2 a : to sing the parts of (as a round or catch) in succession b : to sing loudly c : to celebrate in song
3 a : to fish for by trolling b : to fish by trolling in <troll lakes> c : to pull through the water in trolling <troll a lure>
intransitive senses
1 : to move around : RAMBLE
2 : to fish by trailing a lure or baited hook from a moving boat
3 : to sing or play in a jovial manner
4 : to speak rapidly

Used as a noun, it means someone who comes to a newsgroup/forum and posts something to get a rise out of the regulars. A good troll can be hilarious. There's nothing wrong with trolling per se, but it's hard to say what a good troll is. Used correctly it should hook people who should know better - noobies (= minnows) generally don't count but lamer trolls don't know that. Hooking a demi-god should be the goal of any troll attempt to macrumors.

It's easier to know what a bad troll is, e.g. coming to macrumors and saying "MACS sux!" or going to a PC forum and saying "Winbloze SUX!" are lame. The Macintrash one was fairly good but not the best I've seen. (Edit: and the original poster let himself down badly in his subsequent posts)

Edit: The convention in usenet land used to be that if you were trolling you had to put something in a custom header or hidden in the message itself so that if you were challenged you could confirm it was a troll, and weren't just being stupid.

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 12:21 PM

so you need to set them on fire to stop them...

Hmmm...very interesting....

I'm just glad that "multiple useless and inflammatory remarks to a thread" designed for humor purposes but not to incite bickering is still considered marginally acceptable! :D

The modus operandi of the prototypical troll is to use his or her first post to state something that they know perfectly well everyone in the forum will disagree with, usually without a lot of carefully thought arguments, but rather with emotional language. And then, like WM said, sit back and enjoy.

But saying Apple is less than perfect isn't, and shouldn't be, considered trolling, in and of itself, here. And there are plenty of people who for some reason hang out here with strong opinions about the failure of Apple. Some of them don't even own macs. Meh, I don't feel compelled to hang around in pro-life web forums, but to each her or his own, as long as they don't just try to pick a fight.

Then there're also the people who only post ads for free iPods, or warez sites, or something like that, that is against forum rules. Those people are spammers, I guess, and not trolls, but quite possibly even worse....

WinterMute

Apr 21, 2005, 12:58 PM

Hmmm...very interesting....

I'm just glad that "multiple useless and inflammatory remarks to a thread" designed for humor purposes but not to incite bickering is still considered marginally acceptable! :D

That's just polite conversation in my house....:D

I think trolling is also a context thing, Lacero, for instance, quite often posts seemingly trollish comments, but it's really his sense of humour coming over, I think the key is the intention, if the comment is supposed to start a fight then it's trolling, if it's designed to raise a smile, it's humour.

Some members don't get that division, and it does cause problems, but mostly we can spot the real thing.

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 01:08 PM

I think trolling is also a context thing, Lacero, for instance, quite often posts seemingly trollish comments, but it's really his sense of humour coming over, I think the key is the intention, if the comment is supposed to start a fight then it's trolling, if it's designed to raise a smile, it's humour.

Yeah, hopefully that applies to me too. ;) Totally agree about Lacero. I don't know why he thought this thread was about him. *sings, You're so vain, you probably think this thread is about you!* :D

Another strange thing, besides their inability to show empathy, is that trolls seem to have poor grammatical skills and impaired vocabulary. Hmm...mayhaps I can start a psychology thesis project out of this. :eek: :)

Sun Baked

Apr 21, 2005, 01:12 PM

so what exactly is a troll?Here...

A Psycho-Sociological Discourse on Internet Trolls (http://www.io.com/~zikzak/troll_thesis.html)

Been awhile since there has been a need to post the Troll Thesis.

anonymous161

Apr 21, 2005, 01:22 PM

Good read!
I personally get hot for the Mailicious Troll.
I have gone too far with this....
stupid!stupid!

Jaffa Cake

Apr 21, 2005, 01:30 PM

AD&D trolls regenerate damage after you've belted them with a large weapon, so you need to set them on fire to stop them...That's it settled then. From now on, we take the term 'flame war' literally and set fire to them. That'll teach the little bleeders!

Koodauw

Apr 21, 2005, 03:23 PM

wdlove

Apr 21, 2005, 05:55 PM

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 07:25 PM

The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.' -George Carlin

So whos gonna be the Official MacRumors Flame thrower?

Now the counterbalance to the adage that, when you're a troll, everything looks like a drawbridge, is that when you've a flamethrower, everything looks like a troll! :D So be careful where you point that thing! Don't singe until you see the whites of their eyes...erm...I mean the blue of their BSOD's! :eek: :D :cool:

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 08:42 PM

*giggles* And then, we have the surreal trolls... Thanks, Dr. Q! :D

*goes out for a snack, keeps giggling*

Metatron

Apr 21, 2005, 11:30 PM

At times I make remarks that I know are considered trolling. I hate that about myself. I usually don't realize that I have gone to far until I read my post a day later.

Usually I am just so passionate about my point of view that I say things I should not. I guess I will make this an apology post then. If I have ever upset ANYONE for my views as a Evangelical Christian/Compasionate Conservative, then I ask for you to forgive me.

I really have been trying to keep an open mind to other people's views. At least we all can agree on one thing. Macs over PC's anyday.

840quadra

Apr 21, 2005, 11:42 PM

I hope i don't appear to be a troll to many of the Macrumor regulars, I am just on the internet allot during work, and consider myself chatty.

Nobody replied to that, it must be true!

I am a Troll http://www.volksport.org/forums/html/emoticons/weep.gif

mkrishnan

Apr 21, 2005, 11:47 PM

I am a Troll

I don't think a troll would be using an 840 as a labour of love, darling. :)

RacerX

Apr 22, 2005, 12:16 AM

I am a Troll
Well, this is news to me. :eek: I would have never guessed.

<Racer walks off shaking his head> And you think ya know a guy... wow.

...Just kidding! ;)

PlaceofDis

Apr 22, 2005, 12:28 AM

Nobody replied to that, it must be true!

I am a Troll http://www.volksport.org/forums/html/emoticons/weep.gif

i think your safe quadra, you might post a lot, but that doesnt mean you are a troll at all, now if you posted things just to start an agrument that would be another thing

no worries

840quadra

Apr 22, 2005, 02:52 AM

Well, this is news to me. :eek: I would have never guessed.

<Racer walks off shaking his head> And you think ya know a guy... wow.

...Just kidding! ;)

Ha ha!

Thanks..
If you see a guy standing in the dark corners during the OS X SIG that will be me ;)

Also others, thanks for the kind words.. I feel more welcome alredy :D
Now back to hidden negative posts in regards to the G5 architecture..

oops I wasn't supposed to type that here :eek:
:p

MacNut

Apr 22, 2005, 03:37 AM

How bout we get a big cage and throw the trolls in and watch them fight each other. :p :D

munkle

Apr 22, 2005, 04:32 AM

How bout we get a big cage and throw the trolls in and watch them fight each other. :p :D

Only if we can poke them with sticks at the same time :p

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 07:41 AM

Only if we can poke them with sticks at the same time :p

I'm a little shocked and dismayed that you'd think that any scheme we'd come up with that involved caged deathmatches wouldn't also involve poking with sticks. :rolleyes:

munkle

Apr 22, 2005, 07:49 AM

I'm a little shocked and dismayed that you'd think that any scheme we'd come up with that involved caged deathmatches wouldn't also involve poking with sticks. :rolleyes:

There it is, I've revealed myself to be a n00b when it comes to caged deathmatches...I apologise mkrishnan, please don't feed me to the trolls! :eek: :p

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 07:52 AM

There it is, I've revealed myself to be a n00b when it comes to caged deathmatches...I apologise mkrishnan, please don't feed me to the trolls! :eek: :p

No worries! *passes stick* Hmmm...pointed sticks or dull ones? I can see advantages either way. :D

anonymous161

Apr 22, 2005, 09:01 AM

It seems that we all have over-active imaginations *as he sharpens his troll poking stick*
I'm glad to see that I am not the only one that was lonely as a child...

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 10:53 AM

It seems that we all have over-active imaginations *as he sharpens his troll poking stick*
I'm glad to see that I am not the only one that was lonely as a child...

Yes, now that I'm not around engineers all the time anymore, I need someone to trade D&D and Hitchhikers' references with! :)

LOL, that reminded me of my favorite of all time...when the movie version of D&D came out about five years ago, or whatever, some review ran with the headline: "D&D Movie Fails Its Saving Throw Against Sucking." :eek: :cool: :D

Hopefully, when HHGTG drops next week, it will rather be the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything! :)

Blue Velvet

Apr 22, 2005, 11:05 AM

...when the movie version of D&D came out about five years ago, or whatever, some review ran with the headline: "D&D Movie Fails Its Saving Throw Against Sucking." :eek: :cool: :D

d20!

:D

WinterMute

Apr 22, 2005, 11:09 AM

d20!

:D

I found all my dice in a box in the loft a few months ago, along with a disturbingly large collection of intricately painted metal figures of all the usual AD&D creatures, I even have a Black Dragon in 4 parts....

I have 48 6-sided dice and a very snazzy set of metal multi-faceted ones. :rolleyes:

I have a troll too, in case you think this is to OT... :D

Can't find my pointy stick just now though.

Savage Henry

Apr 22, 2005, 11:40 AM

I think that we should welcome new members. The influx is mainly due to the announcement of Tiger, NAB, and the upcoming WWDC. New members keep the forum lively. The moderators can't be everywhere. So if we see a problem it's our duty to bring it to their attention.When I joined it was an already thriving forum with well established protocols, rules, guidelines, regulars, long dignified discussions, good-humoured banters and a real strong community feel. I still believe that this is case 14 months after I joined when the membership number was 29.7k and the forums were already matured. Within that relatively short space of time the membership numbers have shot up to over 20k more ... that seems an incredibly big jump.

Fortunately I think the mods are doing well to keep the forum-felons under wraps. Strong bold opinion is good, very good in fact. It's good to read, digest and consider. But garbage is just, well, garbage.

I spect we may see another influx a few weeks into Tiger and over the WWDC, but I think the ship will hold.

fistful

Apr 22, 2005, 11:55 AM

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 12:51 PM

Personally I find those who snitch on others then proceed to post in the thread telling them they snitched infinitely more annoying than those that troll. I can ignore a troll but there is just something I find smug and arrogant with people who do this.

Ouch! :eek:

But...hmmm...not that I really want to have this argument with you, but trolling is not like asking stupid questions. Few people who ask stupid questions are labeled trolls purely by virtue of their ignorance. You kinda have to choose to be a troll. So I'm not sure about the arrogance thing. I'm *not* better than people who ask stupid questions, because I ask them too (maybe on different topics). I hmmm...to the extent I am an ass, it is controlled enough that people generally don't complain about it. :D

fistful

Apr 22, 2005, 01:05 PM

Ouch! :eek:

But...hmmm...not that I really want to have this argument with you, but trolling is not like asking stupid questions. Few people who ask stupid questions are labeled trolls purely by virtue of their ignorance. You kinda have to choose to be a troll. So I'm not sure about the arrogance thing. I'm *not* better than people who ask stupid questions, because I ask them too (maybe on different topics). I hmmm...to the extent I am an ass, it is controlled enough that people generally don't complain about it. :D

sorry, should have been a little bit clearer. I meant more along the lines of responding to someone trolling or say asking advice on pirating software/music and the like. I don't mind them telling the person that possibly what they are doing is not appropriate for this site and reporting them in the process. I just find it annoying when they rub it in their face that they snitched, either way I don't see the point in rubbing it in.

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 01:07 PM

sorry, should have been a little bit clearer. I meant more along the lines of responding to someone trolling or say asking advice on pirating software/music and the like. I don't mind them telling the person that possibly what they are doing is not appropriate for this site and reporting them in the process. I just find it annoying when they rub it in their face that they snitched, either way I don't see the point in rubbing it in.

You mean like posting a reply saying, "I reported you" or something like that, in the thread?

fistful

Apr 22, 2005, 01:12 PM

You mean like posting a reply saying, "I reported you" or something like that, in the thread?

pretty much, although those who do this usually add in a little quip with their comment.

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 01:23 PM

pretty much, although those who do this usually add in a little quip with their comment.

Ahhh, gotcha.... I have been guilty of putting comments like, "Someone needs a visit from the ban hamster" in my posts. :o

Blue Velvet -- I thought it was 2d10 that were rolled for a saving throw, and used as a percent? Or maybe that was D&D and AD&D used d20s? God, we're such geeks! :D

Blue Velvet

Apr 22, 2005, 01:27 PM

Blue Velvet -- I thought it was 2d10 that were rolled for a saving throw, and used as a percent? Or maybe that was D&D and AD&D used d20s? God, we're such geeks! :D

Whoops... make a saving throw against your Wisdom! :D

MacNut

Apr 22, 2005, 01:37 PM

I'm a little shocked and dismayed that you'd think that any scheme we'd come up with that involved caged deathmatches wouldn't also involve poking with sticks. :rolleyes:I saw we use sticks and stones to break their bones. :p :rolleyes:

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 01:52 PM

I saw we use sticks and stones to break their bones. :p :rolleyes:

Yeah, you're right. I doubt names will ever hurt them. :eek: ;) :D

*makes saving throw against Wisdom...fails miserable*

How come I always roll a 1? :rolleyes:

anonymous161

Apr 22, 2005, 02:25 PM

Maybe trolls should get a special status, like instead of "601", "Demi-God" or "680000" they could get 386, Pentium Pro, or Celeron or even Millenium Edition
I just had to interject something else because all this D&D stuff is creeping me out. :)

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 03:46 PM

...they could get 386...

Or 386SX/16...mmm...that was a good one. Especially running OS/2. Oh, yes. :(

I just had to interject something else because all this D&D stuff is creeping me out.

You're so sexy. I want to show you mine. Will you show me yours? :p ;) :D

anonymous161

Apr 22, 2005, 04:18 PM

You're so sexy. I want to show you mine. Will you show me yours? :p ;) :D

Alright, I earned that one :)

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 04:36 PM

Alright, I earned that one :)

Love ya, babe! ;)

Balin64

Apr 22, 2005, 05:32 PM

Balin64

Apr 22, 2005, 05:36 PM

It has taken me three years (11k member) to get to 400 posts. I am a true slacker. But, do not understimate! I have read MacRumors every day since joining (well, except when I traveled to Dublan that one time) and I have forged the Great Order of the Knights Macrumborites.

Okay. I have been at work way too long. I need a double Jack & Diet Coke right about now...

mkrishnan

Apr 22, 2005, 05:40 PM

Much love to all, have a great weekend!

You too, Balin! :) Have fun with your new toy (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=121164), you lucky troll! :D

I'm waiting on a late FedEx man, otherwise I would be out drinking margaritas (or at least diet coke), with you in spirit.

MongoTheGeek

Apr 22, 2005, 06:28 PM

We're a bunch of Geeks! :o

I think the Conservative Christians on these forums are pseudo-trolls... but effecvtive and persistent ones! They have endless energy and tag-team well. Kind of like in real life.

Bleh. Much love to all, have a great weekend!

I think I take offense at that.

Trolls have been showing up other places too. MACSCRPT seems be in the middle of a troll fest. Maybe its the weather.