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scem0
Oct 4, 2002, 06:50 PM
Post interesting facts. Basically anything that will make me go 'Whoa!' or 'I don't believe that' etc.

-Many scholars think that Spartan men were homosexuals. It was a very male oriented civilization. It explained it on the discovery channel's thing about the spartans.



vniow
Oct 4, 2002, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by scem0


-Many scholars think that Spartan men were homosexuals. It was a very male oriented civilization. It explained it on the discovery channel's thing about the spartans.


I read somewhere that at the end of a fatal battle between the Spartans and somebody else (I don't remember who) the Spartan warriors died in each others arms.

You want to get a bunch of people riled up for battle? Fight their lover.

Alexander the Great was also gay BTW.
I don't know where the U.S. military got this idea that homosexuals were wussies. :rolleyes:

scem0
Oct 4, 2002, 07:31 PM
Yeah I read that somewhere about Alexander the great.

P-Worm
Oct 4, 2002, 07:51 PM
Did you know that if you were locked in an air-tight room, you would die from carbon dioxide poisoning before you would die from lack of oxygen?

P-Worm

al256
Oct 4, 2002, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by scem0
-Many scholars think that Spartan men were homosexuals. It was a very male oriented civilization. It explained it on the discovery channel's thing about the spartans.

Well, that was the History Channel http://www.historychannel.com/spartans/

The Discovery Channel use to be good but it sucks now. So your interested in an interesting fact, eh? Well, whales and dolphins evolved from dogs.

scem0
Oct 4, 2002, 08:02 PM
They did? I think not, I am no scientist, but they evolved from a common ancestor. But dolphins didn't come from dogs did they?

King Cobra
Oct 4, 2002, 08:14 PM
Alexander the Great's middle name is "the". :D

But, seriously... :rolleyes:

A majority of dust is made up of human skin. (Men Of Honor)

Pigs can also get sunburn.

The world's larget prime number in 1983 had 39751 digits. (Really old pocket book)

This I find really cool:
You can suspend a magnet in air above a superconductor by freezing the superconductor to 77 kelvin using liquid nitrogen. From there you can literally take a pen, tap the suspended metal's side and spin it in air like a rubic's cube.

al256
Oct 4, 2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by scem0
They did? I think not, I am no scientist, but they evolved from a common ancestor. But dolphins didn't come from dogs did they?

http://www.intersurf.com/~chalcedony/Basilosaurus1.html Look at this. "the first of many fossil finds that show that modern whales, e.g. the humpback whales evolved from dog-like creatures known as Mesonychids"

Why is it so hard to believe? I know they talked about it in my biology class, and on the TV series "Evolution" that was shown on PBS and TechTV.

Durandal7
Oct 4, 2002, 09:02 PM
A man is raising money for suplies and a mini-helicopter to fly through a tunnel he believes goes from the north pole to the south pole in order to visit the crystal city of Sham-bala that Tibetan monks made in the center of the Earth.

King Cobra
Oct 4, 2002, 09:08 PM
>Why is it so hard to believe? I know they talked about it in my biology class, and on the TV series "Evolution" that was shown on PBS and TechTV.

Usually, the most common reasons for divergent evolution occur on one (or two) of two basis:
A: Lack of use/Extention of use of a certain body function, or
B: A genetic mutation that amplified incremently over time.

To put it in English,
A:
Many people say that giraffes came from horses. Originally, they were horses, but they had to stretch out their necks to reach higher and higher tree minerals necessary for their survival. The ones that failed to stretch out their necks enough died. As the thousands/millions of years past, the neck part of the "horses" became more and more used, and, as a result, became characteristic to this type of horse, defined as a giraffe.

B:
A genetic mutation is a change in a DNA paring/DNA codes, which alter a certain amount of body functions. In some time or another, there may have been a genetic mutation caused as a result of radioactive energy, which can easily change the DNA codes. This energy may have only affected a certain number of creatures some xxx million years ago. Eventually, as time past, the genetic mutations became more prominent on the external structure of the animal, resulting in clearly definable characteristics.

Occassionally, however, the enzymes used to duplicate DNA strands make a mistake in copying the exact same codes, also resulting in a mutation. That's why people say "Nobody's perfect." :p

al256
Oct 4, 2002, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
>Usually, the most common reasons for divergent evolution occur on one (or two) of two basis:
A: Lack of use/Extention of use of a certain body function, or
B: A genetic mutation that amplified incremently over time.

Well, it's just "B". If an animal evolves (aka mutates, that's all it is) w/o a useful "body function" then it continues to live just as an animal does with the "body function". So "A" is just part of "B". But thanks for the message; I'm sure it took awhile to type it up.

ibjoshua
Oct 4, 2002, 10:58 PM
A majority of dust is made up of human skin. (Men Of Honor)
try not to remember that the next time you're caught in a dust storm!


i think you meant 'household dust'?? ;)

yak's milk is pink - trivial pursuits (c1987)

i_b_joshua

sparkleytone
Oct 4, 2002, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
>Why is it so hard to believe? I know they talked about it in my biology class, and on the TV series "Evolution" that was shown on PBS and TechTV.

Usually, the most common reasons for divergent evolution occur on one (or two) of two basis:
A: Lack of use/Extention of use of a certain body function, or
B: A genetic mutation that amplified incremently over time.

To put it in English,
A:
Many people say that giraffes came from horses. Originally, they were horses, but they had to stretch out their necks to reach higher and higher tree minerals necessary for their survival. The ones that failed to stretch out their necks enough died. As the thousands/millions of years past, the neck part of the "horses" became more and more used, and, as a result, became characteristic to this type of horse, defined as a giraffe.

B:
A genetic mutation is a change in a DNA paring/DNA codes, which alter a certain amount of body functions. In some time or another, there may have been a genetic mutation caused as a result of radioactive energy, which can easily change the DNA codes. This energy may have only affected a certain number of creatures some xxx million years ago. Eventually, as time past, the genetic mutations became more prominent on the external structure of the animal, resulting in clearly definable characteristics.

Occassionally, however, the enzymes used to duplicate DNA strands make a mistake in copying the exact same codes, also resulting in a mutation. That's why people say "Nobody's perfect." :p

as cool and interesting as this may be, it is still completely unproven and just a theory. there has yet to be any real proof affirming the theory of evolution in the first place.

scem0
Oct 4, 2002, 11:15 PM
We learned that dolphins, humans, and dogs all came from a common ancestor, but not the dolphins came from dogs. Oh well...

Xena/Lucy Lawless is only 5'11" even though she looks 6'5". She speaks English, French, German, and some Italian.

Xena is the best show in the world. :D

MacBandit
Oct 5, 2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Durandal7
A man is raising money for suplies and a mini-helicopter to fly through a tunnel he believes goes from the north pole to the south pole in order to visit the crystal city of Sham-bala that Tibetan monks made in the center of the Earth.


Uhhhh huuuhhh. And where did he by his last hit from?

MacBandit
Oct 5, 2002, 12:46 AM
Here's one for you.

111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321

sparkleytone
Oct 5, 2002, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Here's one for you.

111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321

damn

thats pretty sweet

ibjoshua
Oct 5, 2002, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Here's one for you.

111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321

it's true.

i_b_joshua

ibjoshua
Oct 5, 2002, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by sparkleytone
as cool and interesting as this may be, it is still completely unproven and just a theory. there has yet to be any real proof affirming the theory of evolution in the first place.

i think you're in the wrong thread :)

but i'd love to know what your definition of real proof is?? if you feel like elaborating post here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11972
there are lot of people who don't feel the same way.


i_b_joshua

MacBandit
Oct 5, 2002, 01:17 AM
Many archaeologists in South America currently believe Egyptians were among the first people to discover America. The proof of this comes in this comes from tobacco and cocoa found in some tombs in Egypt. Neither of these products grew in the wild anywhere else in the world. This also helps explain the spread of the Pyramids throughout the world.


Here's another one from the bowels of my head.

The Conquistadors were losing there fight with the Aztecs in and around the valley in which Mexico City resides today. The problem came in the form of the greatest Aztec warriors known as the Jaguar and Eagle Warriors very much the equivalent to our modern day Navy Seals. These were the elite of the elite for the Aztecs and did most of there damage at night. What finally brought the Aztecs down was not disease or the like but that the Conquistadors were able to raise a rebellion force with the surrounding farmers/slaves. By doing this they not only had a much larger force but had effecively cut off all food to the city.


Interesting note the Sun pyramid in Teotihuacan and the Great pyramid of Giza are similar in that there height to base ratios are both based on a mathmatical ratio of PI. The Sun pyramid's base is 4pi times it's height and the Great Pyramid in Giza is 2Pi times it's height.

Durandal7
Oct 5, 2002, 01:55 AM
Dapper Dan Pomade and Red Apple Cigarettes are not real products.

King Cobra
Oct 5, 2002, 06:53 AM
Coke was originally green. Pepsi blue is blue. :D

>(Bandit) survival of the fitest.

I'll give you that. Based on Darwin's theory of "survival of the fittest", nature plays a huge role in determining who survives in the world. Nature is a competition in this regard, by which those who survive set the makeup for the following generation of the species. The ones who don't survive die, as I explained for the giraffe in A.

And, true. It's theory. But I interpreted what my biology teacher said as fact. :rolleyes:

Now I'm reminded of those Mad River Juice Drinks I hear on the radio sometimes.
"Nature's a mother. [Drink to it.]" :D

irmongoose
Oct 5, 2002, 08:19 AM
Here's a whole list... and yes I admit I didn't get these off my head, but they're still quite interesting... Enjoy.
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A snail can sleep for three years.

Americans on average eat 18 acres of pizza every day.

Butterflies taste with their feet.

Dueling is legal in Paraguay as long as both parties are registered blood donors.

Elephants are the only animals that can't jump.

"Go." is the shortest complete sentence in the English language.

If Barbie were life-size, her measurements would be 39-23-33. She would stand seven feet, two inches tall.

If the population of China walked past you in single file, the line would never end because of the rate of reproduction.

If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days, you will have produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee.

In ancient Egypt, priests plucked EVERY hair from their bodies, including their eyebrows and eyelashes.

No word in the English language rhymes with "month".

On average, people fear spiders more than they do death.

Our eyes are always the same size from birth, but our nose and ears
never stop growing.

The electric chair was invented by a dentist.

An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain.

All polar bears are left handed.

The name Wendy was made up for the book 'Peter Pan'.

Women blink nearly twice as much as men.

You are more likely to be killed by a Champagne cork than by a poisonous spider.
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irmongoose

xelterran
Oct 5, 2002, 08:59 AM
some snakes can live for up to 3 years without eating :eek: (i saw it on a nature program a while ago)

eyelikeart
Oct 5, 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by irmongoose
On average, people fear spiders more than they do death.

speaking of spiders...did u guys know that on average...we humans accidentally eat 11 spiders in our lives while asleep! :eek:

sparkleytone
Oct 5, 2002, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Durandal7
Dapper Dan Pomade and Red Apple Cigarettes are not real products.

i don't want no Fop. I'm a Dapper Dan Man.

This place must be a geographical oddity...two weeks from everywhere.

P-Worm
Oct 5, 2002, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by sparkleytone


i don't want no Fop. I'm a Dapper Dan Man.

This place must be a geographical oddity...two weeks from everywhere.

Ahh yeah, Oh Brother Where Art Thou...

By the way, did you know that the record for prjectile vomiting is 17 feet? That;s a lot of puke! :eek:

Also, you are more likely to be killed by a cow than a shark. And you thought that they were stupid, gentle creatures...

P-Worm

MacBandit
Oct 5, 2002, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by King Cobra
Coke was originally green. Pepsi blue is blue. :D

>(Bandit) survival of the fitest.

I'll give you that. Based on Darwin's theory of "survival of the fittest", nature plays a huge role in determining who survives in the world. Nature is a competition in this regard, by which those who survive set the makeup for the following generation of the species. The ones who don't survive die, as I explained for the giraffe in A.

And, true. It's theory. But I interpreted what my biology teacher said as fact. :rolleyes:

Now I'm reminded of those Mad River Juice Drinks I hear on the radio sometimes.
"Nature's a mother. [Drink to it.]" :D

Yes it's theory but you would have to be an idiot to not see evolution in the making in animals and plants all around you every day. I know by reading books and watching film and comparing the two to current plants and animals and you can see how they have developed different genetic traits in as little as a hundred or two years.

scem0
Oct 5, 2002, 11:29 AM
God I hate spiders... They are so disguisting. I am a big arachnophobist (Did I spell that correctly?). Ummm let me look up another interesting fact.

Active Languages
According to recent estimates, the number of actively spoken languages in the world today is around 6,000. More than 1,400 of those languages belong to the Niger-Congo family from Africa, and about 1,200 are in the Austronesian family from Madagascar, Indonesia, Australia, the Pacific Islands, and New Zealand.
Most of today's active languages are spoken by very few people, and many of them are losing speakers rapidly as the world becomes more and more connected. Half of today's languages have fewer than 10,000 speakers, and a quarter have fewer than 1,000.
Thousands of years ago, there may have been as many as 10,000 active languages in the world. Within the next century, thousands of languages may be lost.

Closest Orbiting Moon
Of all the moons in the solar system, the one with the closest orbit is Phobos, the larger of the two satellites of Mars. The orbit of Phobos is less than 6000 kilometers above the surface of the planet (3700 miles).
Phobos is an irregularly shaped chunk of rock and ice about 27 kilometers long (17 miles). Because its orbit is so low, it can only be seen from a limited strip of the planet near its orbital path. Seen from that strip, it crosses the sky quickly from west to east, twice a day.
Phobos' orbit is so low that tidal forces are pulling it closer and closer to Mars. Scientists expect that in about 50 million years it will either crash into the planet or break up into a thin ring of orbiting debris.

Fastest Waves
The fastest ocean waves are also the rarest and the most dangerous. They are tsunamis, very long waves that move across the open sea at speeds approaching 500 miles per hour (800 kph).

Footbag Origins
The sport of footbag has been played for centuries by Asians and Native Americans, who used small, soft bags filled with nuts or pebbles. But it did not take off in the modern world until 1972, when a football player named John Stallberger made it into a popular hit.
Stallberger was recovering from a knee injury. His friend Mike Marshall suggested that he keep his legs flexible during his recovery by kicking around a small bag. They called it "hacking the sack."
Stallberger and Marshall began marketing their "hacky sacks" and were immediately successful. Today, footbag is an international sport with champions and competitive rules.
Note: Hacky Sack is a trademark of Wham-O, Inc.

I made it small so it wouldn't take up too much space :D.

King Cobra
Oct 5, 2002, 03:39 PM
>(eye) did u guys know that on average...we humans accidentally eat 11 spiders in our lives while asleep! :eek:

I thought it was an average of eight each year.

That rounds off to an average of about 600 a lifetime! :eek:

scem0
Oct 5, 2002, 04:31 PM
I would doubt it would be that high.... 8 spiders a year! That is gross.

King Cobra
Oct 5, 2002, 05:05 PM
My World His. teacher had "little known facts" on the board almost every class day when I was a freshmen, and one of them was "We swallow on average about 8 spiders a year." I'll check with her again to confirm this, so I can officially gross you out, Scem. :eek:


Some more facts, not as gross :rolleyes:

The universe will die before today's technology surpasses 128-bit encryption. (This was discussed a little a while back; I changed the sun to universe.)

You are the tallest in the morning because your spine stretches out over night, unless you got drunk the night before. :D

Plecos are one breed of catfish that can walk on land for several feet.

The scientists who discovered the hard center of an atom and the charge of an electron died from exposing themselves to too much radiation in their experiments. Some way to die, get famous, get mutated. :eek: :p

jefhatfield
Oct 6, 2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by irmongoose


A snail can sleep for three years.




so can my two employees who are two thirty-something brothers who share a room and still live at home:eek: :confused: :p

jefhatfield
Oct 6, 2002, 10:41 AM
cat....the other white meat:p

i am not the oldest poster on here anymore

alaska has tried to seceed from the union

texas almost fought on the side of the north in the civil war

clint eastwood legalized ice cream in the city of carmel, ca...when he became mayor in that small town

alaska is the biggest state more than twice the size of texas

george w bush, head of the usa, was once considering being head of major league baseball

King Cobra
Oct 6, 2002, 10:43 AM
>so can my two employees who are two thirty-something brothers who share a room and still live at home:eek: :confused: :p

How is that considered interesting? :D


Weather trivia:

The 1992 hurricane has been upgraded from being thought as a Cat. 4 to hit land to a Cat. 5, because there have been so few Cat. 5 hurricanes on record.

The world's most violent recorded wind speed not from a tornado came in New Hampshire. The wind came in at 231 mph (about 370 kph) as a combination of various fronts moved towards the area. It feels as if you were being hit by a 900 horsepower indy car at around 200 mph.

A tornado has picked up a carton of eggs and set it down unharmed.

The world's most unlucky ranger got struck by lightning at least 7 times, mostly, outside the eye or on the toenail.

Lightning is roughly four and a half times as hot as the surface of the sun.

Fezwick
Oct 6, 2002, 11:11 AM
Did you know, in a lifetime you shed on average about 84 pounds of skin? Now there's a way to lose weight!

eyelikeart
Oct 6, 2002, 11:38 AM
hmm...I'm not so sure now...I had read 11 spiders...maybe I misread the time frame...

still...it's pretty freaky to think about...

sorta like the things the govt. will allow to get into processed foods... :eek:

I'll have to find a list of it...pretty gross when u think about it...

MacBandit
Oct 6, 2002, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
cat....the other white meat:p

i am not the oldest poster on here anymore

alaska has tried to seceed from the union

texas almost fought on the side of the north in the civil war

clint eastwood legalized ice cream in the city of carmel, ca...when he became mayor in that small town

alaska is the biggest state more than twice the size of texas

george w bush, head of the usa, was once considering being head of major league baseball


Oregon was a member of the south durring the Civil War.

Durandal7
Oct 6, 2002, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield

i am not the oldest poster on here anymore


Whaaattt??? :eek: :confused:

King Cobra
Oct 6, 2002, 01:52 PM
>sorta like the things the govt. will allow to get into processed foods... :eek:

>I'll have to find a list of it...pretty gross when u think about it...

Let me freak you out on food/drinks for you. :eek:

For the diet beverage fans: Some of the ingredients in Diet Pepsi are the same as the cleaning ingredients in toilet cleaner.

For the smokers: Cig's have over 4000 chemicals inside each tube. The ammonia is the same as in dog poop. Imagine where the rest came from.

As for the skin one, that means that by the time Hailey's commet comes back, there will be (guessing) 100 to 1000 million tons of skin (ie: mud without liquid) shed from people!



BTW: Happy BDay, again, eye! :really big wink: :p

Durandal7
Oct 6, 2002, 02:05 PM
The MR search engine returns 2782 seperate threads with an instance of the word "mac", 94 threads with "sex" and 168 with "bitch."

King Cobra
Oct 6, 2002, 02:11 PM
Why would you use those three posts in the same search? :D :rolleyes: :eek:

sic :p

scem0
Oct 6, 2002, 02:16 PM
I have sex with my mac. It is my bitch.

Is that good enough for you :D :D :D?

Durandal7
Oct 6, 2002, 02:19 PM
So true, so true.
Don't we all? ;)

King Cobra
Oct 6, 2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by scem0
I have sex with my mac. It is my bitch.

Is that good enough for you :D :D :D?

>Don't we all? ;)

Some people just don't learn from ********* their CPUs. :rolleyes: :eek: :p

scem0
Oct 6, 2002, 02:31 PM
So true, so true.
Don't we all?

No, I was just kidding.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

King Cobra
Oct 6, 2002, 02:33 PM
Interesting thought:

A decent sense of humor may get you past some problems in life, however, mostly in retrospect. :rolleyes:^2

Durandal7
Oct 6, 2002, 02:36 PM
Many people don't know who Steve Jobs is.

scem0
Oct 6, 2002, 02:43 PM
Oh god, I know. It is so sad when I mention SJ and people don't know who I am talking about. Oh well :o ......

Stike
Oct 6, 2002, 03:18 PM
Did you know that
Dustin Hoffman was originally cast for the role of "Rambo", but rejected, so Sly had a chance?

MacBandit
Oct 7, 2002, 01:14 AM
Even fewer people know who Steve Wozniak is.

Vector
Oct 7, 2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by edvniow



I read somewhere that at the end of a fatal battle between the Spartans and somebody else (I don't remember who) the Spartan warriors died in each others arms.

You want to get a bunch of people riled up for battle? Fight their lover.

Alexander the Great was also gay BTW.
I don't know where the U.S. military got this idea that homosexuals were wussies. :rolleyes:

They were homosexual as were the greeks. They were actually bisexual as were the early romans before christianity took hold. Greeks believed that a person went through cycles of homosexual tendencies throughout their life. It is not that they went around having sex with those of their same gender, but rather that they would often have male companions who they lived with. In the times before christ, it was a common occurrence for men to have these companions especially in greece and in rome to some extent.

scem0
Oct 7, 2002, 04:42 PM
now what would the world be like if it were still like that today???

vniow
Oct 7, 2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by scem0
now what would the world be like if it were still like that today???


Well first we'd have to get over this stupid fear that homosexuality is bad.:rolleyes:
then we could find out.:)

mischief
Oct 7, 2002, 05:24 PM
You're not clinically Projectile Vomiting unless you have recently suffered severe head trauma.

Most damage to the vagina incurred during childbirth is due to a woman being too tense.

Barbituates are used to induce a coma when a patient is endangered by their own metabolic functions (IE bleeding out or severe lung-reaction to water or particulates)

Drowning is most often due to water in the trachea..... not the lungs.

Only a small amount of salt or fresh water in the lungs will cause aspiration pneumonia and death because the lungs will try to dilute it with water from the body, filling the lungs with fluid.

diorio
Oct 8, 2002, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by edvniow



Well first we'd have to get over this stupid fear that homosexuality is bad.:rolleyes:
then we could find out.:)

It's not necessarily a stupid fear. People fear things they don't understand. It's basic human nature. It's also human nature to fear certain things like death, public speaking and such. Whether homosexuality is on the list, I don't know. I just know that while many people don't like homosexuals, their opinion might change if they understood the person better.

scem0
Oct 8, 2002, 06:24 PM
Homophobia is dumb. If you don't like their sexual preference then deal... Don't worry about a homosexual. If you are a straight guy, and a gay guy hits on you, tell them that you're not gay, and they will go away. If they don't then that is a different story. But being afraid of someone just because of their sexual preference is just plain rude.

King Cobra
Oct 8, 2002, 06:37 PM
>(facetar:D)now what would the world be like if it were still like that today???

Jerry Springer would be a billionaire. :eek: :D http://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon4.gif

Records:
The world's longest official Chess move took over 2 hours.

The world's longest milk squirt through an air pocket in the eye was about 6 feet.

(I think) The world's highest rooftop to rooftop motorcycle jump was 14 stories by Super Joe Reed.

The world's largest and most expensive motorcycle was $80000 and about 10 feet high (according to about 3 years ago).

The highest kick was 8 feet 9 inches.

Spike Spiegel
Oct 15, 2002, 05:23 PM
this is just random info ive picked up and not known what to do with over the years

black holes are not holes at all, but super dense balls of matter

the holy roman empire was neither holy, nor roman, nor an empire

the human eye can see more shades of blue than of any other color

lacie hard drives come in a pin configuration that as labeled on the box will not work with most computers(its a pain in the a@# to change the config without hurting the pins too)

the current map projection used by most people is actually wrong, the continents are actually not the familiar shapes we know and love.

video games do NOT cause violence, in fact the families themselves are more likely to provoke violence in children.

In starcraft the average life span of a terran marine is 11 seconds

president bush said that there is no word in the french language for entrepreneur

"stewardess" is the longest english word that, using "proper" hand positions, can be typed with only the left hand

if i killed everyone that said 'momento' instead of 'memento', i would be the most prolific killer in the history of time.:rolleyes:

the average person farts fifteen times everyday

coma patients must be exercised manually so they dont retreat into a fetal position as their muscles atrophy

for a long time, lefthanded people were considered evil

in my home town, it is cool to call someone a diddler and to tell them that they are not even tough, and that you will SO bang them out!(variations allowed)

in dragonball Z, one million is a unit of measurement applied to amazing power levels signified by intense glowing and going rrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaahhhhhhh!!!!

:confused: :confused:

the knights of ni! no longer say ni!:D

accoring to video games, during world war II, a typical machine gun shot to the head from point blank range will not kill, also, that blood used to dissolve into thin air

the "axis of evil" is not actually evil in the real world

i have way to much free time

in early renaissance paintings, christ was portrayed as a little man instead of a baby(he looks really freaky in some paintings!)

and finally, ending much debate: a dead baby can be distinguished from a live baby by using a pitchfork:eek: :)

oh, and..Ronald McDonald, with the help of cheese soup, controls america from a secret volkswagen idden in the past

scem0
Oct 15, 2002, 05:32 PM
In starcraft the average life span of a terran marine is 11 seconds


I have got to see proof of that.... 40 life isn't much but hey medics do their jobs quite well. Well I guess you did say SC and not BW, but still... 11 sec....... :confused:

Spike Spiegel
Oct 15, 2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by scem0



I have got to see proof of that.... 40 life isn't much but hey medics do their jobs quite well. Well I guess you did say SC and not BW, but still... 11 sec....... :confused:

amazing huh? not even enough time for them to finish their cigarettes and stop complaining, let alone fight the incalculable moisture of the zerg!

also, the expression 'vice versa', is incorrect, it is actually 'vica versa'

scem0
Oct 15, 2002, 10:03 PM
no, I am pretty sure it isn't vica versa. It is as is stated (vice versa) - meaning 'in reverse'. I think they are conjugated forms of the words and 'vicis' (alternating) 'verto' (I change)

Spike Spiegel
Oct 15, 2002, 11:11 PM
my mistake, on looking into it, i guess i was wrong. damn you, english teacher, youve poisoned my mind with corroded information! what other elusive webs of lies did you weave during our one year tenure as teacher and student?! AARRRHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Durandal7
Oct 15, 2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by scem0



I have got to see proof of that.... 40 life isn't much but hey medics do their jobs quite well. Well I guess you did say SC and not BW, but still... 11 sec....... :confused:
I can back him on that. I think that I read it on a Blizzard site before Brood War came out, they were saying that the new medic unit could add a few seconds to that.

springscansing
Oct 16, 2002, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by King Cobra


The ones who don't survive die...

Good call! :-) j/k

springscansing
Oct 16, 2002, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by diorio


It's not necessarily a stupid fear. People fear things they don't understand. It's basic human nature. It's also human nature to fear certain things like death, public speaking and such. Whether homosexuality is on the list, I don't know. I just know that while many people don't like homosexuals, their opinion might change if they understood the person better.

Nah.. sorry.. it's pretty stupid. :-) Like my fear of spiders... eww!!

Hemingray
Oct 16, 2002, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by King Cobra
The world's most unlucky ranger got struck by lightning at least 7 times, mostly, outside the eye or on the toenail.

Yes, I heard that one, it was in the Guinness Book of World Records... but you left out the part about him surviving all of those lightning strikes, only to commit suicide later on! :eek:

beez7777
Oct 16, 2002, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Spike Spiegel
[Band finally, ending much debate: a dead baby can be distinguished from a live baby by using a pitchfork:eek: :)[/B]

um. wow.

Spike Spiegel
Oct 16, 2002, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by beez7777


um. wow.

this was one of the many dead baby jokes that are insanely prolific right now, maybe it's just a massachusetts thing though...

dabirdwell
Oct 16, 2002, 09:49 PM
The Spartans were actually not homosexual as we would characterize it today. They lived in a rigid military society, but one based on absolute equality among citizens, and the founder of Sparta, a politically savvy guy named Lycurgus, sought to create a society where every citizen (women too, to some extent) would be trained from birth to strive for great deeds of military honor and distinction. Responsibility to Sparta superceded all for these people, and the role of sexuality is actually something that was downplayed in the Spartan polis. Women actually would parade nude in front of the male soldiers in rituals that were strangely asexual, or asensual. All soldiers had wives (virtually) as the purpose was to procreate and maintain as stable and controlled a society as could have been. The relationships to which people here are referring are curious soldier/apprentice relationships which are established as a new soldier is taken on by a veteran in the course of training. Sparta wanted its soldiers to have the closest bonds that could possibly be, and as such, certain intimate homosexual behaviors were allowed. On the battlefield, these guys were not only badasses physically and in terms of skills, no Spartan soldier would want the dishonor that would come from not giving your last breath to save these men with whom you have this intimate relationship.

Hell, these guys see their families almost never, they eat at a common mess every day with the other men and on a schedule, they might be out on a campaign for years...

I would never characterize the Spartan form of polis life as homosexual in nature, it was anything but. However, we can see that the bonds formed by intimate association with other citizens forged one of the most cohesive and disciplined societies in the history of man. They just didn't know how to handle peace when it came to them, corruption decayed Sparta from the inside.

$2c

Dave

vniow
Oct 16, 2002, 09:59 PM
Thanx for the info dabirdwell. I never have read deeply into Spartan culture, just pieces of articles and things I learned in school.
I had no idea it was so complex.

Nice to see another Okie on the boards.:D

dabirdwell
Oct 16, 2002, 10:15 PM
My anecdote is still a gross oversimplification of Spartan life, it just hits the points I thought were relevant to this forum.


Oh, and I've had the dentist find one of those edible spiders before, teeny tiny, fortunately for me...

Spock
Oct 16, 2002, 10:55 PM
Microsoft sucks, and I like Pie.

MacBandit
Oct 16, 2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by dabirdwell
My anecdote is still a gross oversimplification of Spartan life, it just hits the points I thought were relevant to this forum.


Oh, and I've had the dentist find one of those edible spiders before, teeny tiny, fortunately for me...


Why do you say fortunate?

dabirdwell
Oct 17, 2002, 12:34 AM
Fortunate that it was so tiny I didn't notice

mischief
Oct 17, 2002, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by scem0



I have got to see proof of that.... 40 life isn't much but hey medics do their jobs quite well. Well I guess you did say SC and not BW, but still... 11 sec....... :confused:

It takes a Marine about 11 seconds to walk from one corner of an average map to the other, IE: they survive as long as it takes to get where they're going. This proves how useless Marines are outside of Bunkers. This, boys and girls is why Air Power rocks and the most powerful Unit in all of SC is the Dark Archon......:D ;)

jefhatfield
Oct 17, 2002, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by mischief


It takes a Marine about 11 seconds to walk from one corner of an average map to the other, IE: they survive as long as it takes to get where they're going. This proves how useless Marines are outside of Bunkers. This, boys and girls is why Air Power rocks and the most powerful Unit in all of SC is the Dark Archon......:D ;)

in world war II, the average life expectancy of a tail gunner in combat in an army bomber was less than one minute

that was what a german fighter pilot took out first which would render the bomber defenseless from the rear

air power has come really far and one day the planes doing most of the work will not have pilots

mischief
Oct 17, 2002, 11:39 AM
In the spirit of the thread:

Senator Joe McCarthy ran successfully for congress by lying about having been a tail gunner. He then used anti-Communist hysteria to distract from the fact that he was a clueless, drunken redneck.

In BW: With appropriate Dark Archon usage one player can controll close to a thousand man-units worth of war machine. But it gets a bit boring after 600 because your computer oponents are so overmatched U have to be careful not to kill them off by accident before U can steal their units......

:D

jefhatfield
Oct 17, 2002, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by mischief
In the spirit of the thread:

Senator Joe McCarthy ran successfully for congress by lying about having been a tail gunner. He then used anti-Communist hysteria to distract from the fact that he was a clueless, drunken redneck.

In BW: With appropriate Dark Archon usage one player can controll close to a thousand man-units worth of war machine. But it gets a bit boring after 600 because your computer oponents are so overmatched U have to be careful not to kill them off by accident before U can steal their units......

:D

hey, you know how some macs came with nanosaur?

how do you steal those eggs for points?

:p

mischief
Oct 17, 2002, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield


hey, you know how some macs came with nanosaur?

how do you steal those eggs for points?

:p

As I recall there was an "action" key..... The funkiest thing about the game was the key layout... it wasn't precisely intuitive.

jefhatfield
Oct 17, 2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by mischief


As I recall there was an "action" key..... The funkiest thing about the game was the key layout... it wasn't precisely intuitive.

thanks, i will try that

the other game i got on the mac was bugdom and the other day i saw a pc version of that game at staples

maybe i will put that on my pc so my wife can stay addicted to computers:p

mischief
Oct 17, 2002, 01:25 PM
When ambulances respond to 911 "Marijuana overdose" calls at UCSC it's always some out-of towner freshman who made the mistake of smoking with a local in the dorms..... everybody else goes to class and the poor guy gets paranoid, freaks out and calls 911. The jibbering frosh is then talked down enough by paramedics to be transported and is taken to the Hospital to sleep it off. So essentially a "Pot overdose" is smoking too much to handle mentally the 1st time U smoke and freaking out. :D



Elvis Presley drank himself to death. The whole pill-popping thing was a PR cover story because it was more PC to OD than die of liver failure.
:rolleyes: :eek: :confused:

Durandal7
Oct 17, 2002, 05:19 PM
The top 10 posters here have made 35484 posts which make up 20.8% of all posts on the site.

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 06:09 PM
A big deal was made about the top 10 posters at 1000 posts. Now, the race is on for 3000.

Someone [else] has too much time on their hands. :D http://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon3.gif :p

vniow
Oct 17, 2002, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
A big deal was made about the top 10 posters at 1000 posts. Now, the race is on for 3000.

Someone [else] has too much time on their hands. :D http://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon3.gif :p

W00t!
I'm #25! :D

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by edvniow
W00t!
I'm #25! :D

And you only did it in less than three months. I'm sure the piewar with Ms. Moxxxie will boost ratings for the both of you! (:eek: http://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon4.gif)^3 + :D :p

job
Oct 17, 2002, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by edvniow
W00t!
I'm #25! :D

Mr. Spam's got you beat.. ;) :D

I'm 19th...

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by hitman
Mr. Spam's got you beat.. ;)

Hah. Beat you to it, with dial-up.
It took me about four or five months, I guess.

You cable freaks can't win 'em all. :D

vniow
Oct 17, 2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by hitman


Mr. Spam's got you beat.. ;) :D

I'm 19th...


Sexist. ;) :p

Your counterpart will no doubt catch up to you soon.:D

vniow
Oct 17, 2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra


Hah. Beat you to it, with dial-up.
It took me about four or five months, I guess.

You cable freaks can't win 'em all. :D


Don't forget I'm #25 with dial-up also.;)

scem0
Oct 17, 2002, 06:37 PM
I think that I am 47th. Not the greatest accomplishment but it is still good :D.

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 06:51 PM
Fact: You can't say "Apple" without sticking your tongue out of your mouth.


scem, every time I see your spinning face, I'm LMGDAO!! I think your avatars are becoming as bizzare as Ms. V's, except without the tadpole or rabbits. :p

vniow
Oct 17, 2002, 06:55 PM
I'd luv to see you try to top my tadpole or my rabbits.:D

vniow
Oct 17, 2002, 07:07 PM
delete me

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 07:08 PM
In about 10 minutes I created this:

vniow
Oct 17, 2002, 07:10 PM
Not bad, although it's not as disturbing as my tadole.;)

Which reminds me, I've got to get 'tarring again.:D

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 07:13 PM
Let's bring back the avatar thread, so the interesting facts thread can get back on track.

Durandal7
Oct 17, 2002, 07:23 PM
Obi-wan Kenobi is not a real person.

job
Oct 17, 2002, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Durandal7
Obi-wan Kenobi is not a real person.

Noooooo....

Apparently Durandal isn't real either... ;)

Durandal7
Oct 17, 2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by hitman


Noooooo....

Apparently Durandal isn't real either... ;)
No! :eek: Does this mean that Tycho and Leela aren't real either? ;)

job
Oct 17, 2002, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Durandal7

No! :eek: Does this mean that Tycho and Leela aren't real either? ;)

I think the real question is:

Is Soleon real? ;)

Durandal7
Oct 17, 2002, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by hitman


I think the real question is:

Is Soleon real? ;)
Only time will tell...

job
Oct 17, 2002, 07:35 PM
Can time exist without us...?

I think so...

scem0
Oct 17, 2002, 07:49 PM
Can we exist without time?

job
Oct 17, 2002, 07:50 PM
yea, we could exist without time, except it would be chaos.. :p

scem0
Oct 17, 2002, 07:53 PM
Me think that we could not exist w/o time, but time could exist w/o us. Me is right.

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 07:56 PM
Many scientists theorized that at absolute zero all particles would not move at all and have ZERO energy altogether. Theoretically, there would be no time passing until the temperature rose above absolute zero.

Now some scientists are saying that particals discontinue all motion at a temperature below the current standard of absolute zero.

Imagine going back in time with a temperature below absolute zero. :p

job
Oct 17, 2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by scem0
Me think that we could not exist w/o time, but time could exist w/o us. Me is right.

Like I said, it would be chaos...and we'd all self-destruct... ;) :D

scem0
Oct 17, 2002, 08:05 PM
Here is an interesting fact:

This is my 700th post, and I am the 46th highest poster at macrumors.

King Cobra
Oct 17, 2002, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by scem0
Here is an interesting fact:

This is my 700th post, and I am the 46th highest poster at macrumors.

I'm not sure if Prefessor Drop Drawers has any more left in him! :eek:

job
Oct 17, 2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
I'm not sure if Prefessor Drop Drawers has any more left in him! :eek:

Does not look like it... ;)

Durandal7
Oct 17, 2002, 09:09 PM
I have a red itchy rash on my right leg that I think is a bacterial infection.

I am going to put neosporin on it.

job
Oct 17, 2002, 09:15 PM
I pulled a muscle in my hip the other day running a 400 meter for time..

Has this become the random fact of the moment thread? ;) :D

MacBandit
Oct 17, 2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
Many scientists theorized that at absolute zero all particles would not move at all and have ZERO energy altogether. Theoretically, there would be no time passing until the temperature rose above absolute zero.

Now some scientists are saying that particals discontinue all motion at a temperature below the current standard of absolute zero.

Imagine going back in time with a temperature below absolute zero. :p

Actually they were able to achieve 0 Degrees Kelvin here about 5 years ago using lasers. When they did they think they created a new state of matter. What happened was not what they were expecting as usual.

Mr. Anderson
Oct 17, 2002, 09:31 PM
If something doesn't happen, the thread will be shut down......

How can absolute zero and time have effect on each other? KC, you got a link on this or are you practicing Physics without a license again?

D

scem0
Oct 17, 2002, 09:34 PM
Professor drop drawers huh? Here are some interesting facts for you:



Interesting Facts About The Lone Star State (Texas :D). . . . . . .

The population of Texas is 20 million, not including the 16 million cattle.

70% of the population of Texas lives within 200 miles of Austin.

Texas possesses three of the Top Ten most populous cities in the U.S. - Houston, Dallas and San Antonio.

Texas has 215 cities with a population of 10,000 or more.

The Dallas-Fort Worth area has more residents, 5,221,801, than 31 U.S. states. Arizona, for instance, has about 5.1 million residents.

Texas includes 267,339 square miles, or 7.4% of the nation's total area.

El Paso, Texas is closer to Needles, California (516 miles) than it is to Dallas, Texas (571 miles)

Texas' largest county is Brewster with 6,208 square miles. Connecticut (5,544 Sq Mi), Delaware (2,489 Sq Mi) and Rhode Island (1,545 Sq Mi) can fit inside this county.

The King Ranch itself near Corpus Christi is larger than the state of Rhode Island and includes 50,000 head of cattle.

Texas possesses 23,292 farms with 1,000 acres or more with a total of 132 million acres, or 80% of the state land area,

Texas has 90 mountains a mile or more high, with Guadalupe Peak in West Texas at 8,751 feet being the tallest.

Almost 10% of Texas is covered by forest which includes four national and five state forests.

Average yearly rainfall totals in West Texas are less than 8 inches while in East Texas totals exceed 56 inches. Texas climate statistics and weather extremes

The average January temperature for Amarillo is 36.7 degrees while in Brownsville the average is 61.4. On March 27, 1984, the temperature in Brownsville was 106 degrees while Amarillo reported snow and 35 degrees.

job
Oct 17, 2002, 09:41 PM
Dumb laws in Texas..

When two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other has gone.
* It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.
* Up to a felony charge can be levied for promoting the use of, or owning more than six [edit].
* It is illegal for one to shoot a buffalo from the second story of a hotel.
* It is illegal to milk another person's cow.
* A recently passed anticrime law requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.
* Homosexual behavior is a misdemeanor offense.
* The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.

Abilene

* It is illegal to idle or loiter anyplace within the corporate limits of the city for the purpose of flirting or mashing.

Austin

* Wire cutters can not be carried in your pocket.

Beaumont

* Collegiate football is banned at Lamar University.

Borger

* It is against the law to throw confetti, rubber balls, feather dusters, whips or quirts (riding crop), and explosive firecrackers of any kind.

Clarendon

* It is illegal to dust any public building with a feather duster.

Dallas

* It's illegal to possess realistic [edit].

El Paso

* Urinating on the streets is illegal.
* Appearing in public places wearing a "lewd dress" is prohibited.
* Churches, hotels, halls of assembly, stores, markets, banking rooms, railroad depots, and saloons are required to provide spittoons "of a kind and number to efficiently contain expectorations into them."

Galveston

* Landing an airplane on the beach is illegal.
* No person shall inhale fumes from model glue.
* Any person who sits on a sidewalk may be fined up to $500.
* It is illegal to drive a motor car down Broadway before noon on Sundays.

Harker Heights

* No person may disturb a church service by swearing.
* Drivers of city vehicles must respect all traffic rules just like the rest of us.

Houston

* It is illegal to sell Limburger cheese on Sunday.
* Beer may not be purchased after midnight on a Sunday, but it may be purchased on Monday.

Jasper

* Dogs must be on a leash at ALL times. Fine of 100 dollars.

LeFors

* It is illegal to take more than three swallows of beer while standing.

Lubbock County

* It is illegal to drive within an arm's length of alcohol - including alcohol in someone else's blood stream.

Mesquite

* It is illegal for children to have unusual haircuts.

Port Arthur

* Obnoxious odors may not be emitted while in an elevator.

Richardson

* It is illegal to do "U Turns".
* It is now illegal to place a "for sale" sign on a car if it visible from the street.

San Antonio

* It is illegal to urinate on the Alamo.
* It is illegal for both sexes to flirt or respond to flirtation using the eyes and/or hands.

Temple

* Cattle thieves may be hanged on the spot.
* You can ride your horse in the saloon.
* No one may ride a horse and buggy through the town square.

Texarkana

* Owners of horses may not ride them at night without tail lights.

Hemingray
Oct 17, 2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
Fact: You can't say "Apple" without sticking your tongue out of your mouth.

I dunno how YOU say "Apple" but my tongue comes no where near leaving my mouth... :p (oops!)

MacBandit
Oct 17, 2002, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
If something doesn't happen, the thread will be shut down......

How can absolute zero and time have effect on each other? KC, you got a link on this or are you practicing Physics without a license again?

D


Time is based on actions. It is used to determine the time taken of said actions. If there is no actions anywhere in the universe what good is the measurement of time?

King Cobra
Oct 18, 2002, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet
How can absolute zero and time have effect on each other? KC, you got a link on this or are you practicing Physics without a license again?

Not Physics, Chemistry and theory.

At absolute zero, theoretically, all motion/energy of particles would cease to exist, because the temperature at zero Kelvin provides no energy for the particles to move about, again theoretically.

I'm trying to make the association from a previous discussion, that if nothing changed (meaning no evolution) from time A to time B, the difference in time would be zero. Evolution of anything cannot occur without change, which cannot occur without motion, which cannot occur without some source of energy, which cannot occur at absolute zero. Thus, the same theory may apply for time A to time B.

The only assumption to be made here is ALL matter and energy in this universe (and in all other sources of matter and energy beyond this universe) reach absolute zero.

job
Oct 18, 2002, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Time is based on actions. It is used to determine the time taken of said actions. If there is no actions anywhere in the universe what good is the measurement of time?

But actions/events would still happen even without time.

jefhatfield
Oct 18, 2002, 07:13 AM
i live in california, and to many, texas, of all states, is the most popular target of all

when many of us californians think of texas, we think dumb...ie) dubya bush

however, the most educated city in america percentage wise, in terms of college degrees, is austin, texas *national geographic magazine

:)

scem0
Oct 18, 2002, 08:35 AM
Austin rocks. That is where I live :D. Yeah, we are smart here. Hehe. We have UT, and a bunch of other colleges. And the best semiconductor school in the Unites States too. That is where I plan to go :D.

job
Oct 18, 2002, 08:39 AM
I'm in the Woodlands...

jefhatfield
Oct 18, 2002, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by scem0
Austin rocks. That is where I live :D. Yeah, we are smart here. Hehe. We have UT, and a bunch of other colleges. And the best semiconductor school in the Unites States too. That is where I plan to go :D.

besides being the smartest city in america according to national geographic,

many guitar players consider austin the guitar capital of the united states

people/bands like stevie ray vaughn, zz top, fabulous thunderbirds, and eric johnson have frequented the austin music scene

besides standard rock and roll and blues, austin is a major scene for heavy metal music

job
Oct 18, 2002, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
austin is a major scence for heavy metal music

Yeah...some of those stores on 6th street...damn... :eek: :D

jefhatfield
Oct 18, 2002, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by hitman


Yeah...some of those stores on 6th street...damn... :eek: :D

i have read so much about austin in guitar magazines over the years, but i have never been to texas or the south

ok, i visited dc and saw some areas near the capital in virginia...hardly the "south"...froze our butts off:p

Mr. Anderson
Oct 18, 2002, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by King Cobra

I'm trying to make the association from a previous discussion, that if nothing changed (meaning no evolution) from time A to time B, the difference in time would be zero. Evolution of anything cannot occur without change, which cannot occur without motion, which cannot occur without some source of energy, which cannot occur at absolute zero. Thus, the same theory may apply for time A to time B.

The only assumption to be made here is ALL matter and energy in this universe (and in all other sources of matter and energy beyond this universe) reach absolute zero.

It will be a long time till the universe reaches absolute zero - trillions of years, so I'm thinking that it really won't matter whether time stops or not. But you were saved by your last statement, because, if you had something reach absolute zero, you'd have to be there to measure it, so time could not have stopped.

jefhatfield
Oct 18, 2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet


It will be a long time till the universe reaches absolute zero - trillions of years, so I'm thinking that it really won't matter whether time stops or not. But you were saved by your last statement, because, if you had something reach absolute zero, you'd have to be there to measure it, so time could not have stopped.

we all know time is altered in a fast space craft as well as its occupants...but only very, very slightly

but i didn't know it being super cold would affect time...wouldn't time tick away, but just in a cold, dark, boring place?

MacBandit
Oct 18, 2002, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by hitman


But actions/events would still happen even without time.


True. Time is a man made device. Events, actions, change will still continue without time but time can not exist with them.

MacBandit
Oct 18, 2002, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by scem0
Austin rocks. That is where I live :D. Yeah, we are smart here. Hehe. We have UT, and a bunch of other colleges. And the best semiconductor school in the Unites States too. That is where I plan to go :D.

Only Steers and Qu**rs come from Texas and you don't look like a Steer!!!:p ;) :D

MacBandit
Oct 18, 2002, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by jefhatfield


we all know time is altered in a fast space craft as well as its occupants...but only very, very slightly

but i didn't know it being super cold would affect time...wouldn't time tick away, but just in a cold, dark, boring place?

How could time tick away? We bas time on movement either on the hands of a clock driven by a spring or the vibration of a quartz crystal or by that of an atom. In any of those cases if all things have come to rest because of lack of energy then there is no way to measure time let alone some one conscious to measure it.

Mr. Anderson
Oct 18, 2002, 10:15 AM
If you travel at fractions of the speed of light up to the speed of light itself, you will observe that time for you stays the same but that time back on Earth speeds up. From Earth it will look like time on the spacecraft slows down. If you went the speed of light, you could effectively time travel to the future.

dabirdwell
Oct 18, 2002, 10:16 AM
I think the issue that we are all kind of skirting around here is that time does not exist, it is a means of measurement that allows humans to bring organization and synchronization to events in society, but has no substance outside of the boxes around our own heads.

The idea of time is every bit as much of a human creation as is the idea of morality.

MacBandit
Oct 18, 2002, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by dabirdwell
I think the issue that we are all kind of skirting around here is that time does not exist, it is a means of measurement that allows humans to bring organization and synchronization to events in society, but has no substance outside of the boxes around our own heads.

The idea of time is every bit as much of a human creation as is the idea of morality.

Exactly and this is the first thing that people need to know when talking about it.

Mr. Anderson
Oct 18, 2002, 11:10 AM
I disagree, its much more than a 'man made' thing. What you're describing is simillar to the old quote 'If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a sound.'

If humans weren't around, time would still exist.

job
Oct 18, 2002, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
True. Time is a man made device. Events, actions, change will still continue without time but time can not exist with them.

I'm not so sure about that..

I think time would still exist even if events did not. Time would no longer be defined or restricted as minutes, hours, etc. (i.e. humanity's vision of time) but time as an essence, a period, an undetermined, yet infinite, length...

Here's another question...what's the true definition of time? ;)

sspitsbergen
Oct 18, 2002, 03:01 PM
quote

<black holes are not holes at all, but super dense balls of matter

"stewardess" is the longest english word that, using "proper" hand positions, can be typed with only the left hand>

Actually, black holes are not black, but are slowly dissolving by releasing anti-particles (if I remember Hawking right)

"stewardesses" is actually the longest word with left hand.

And my own

Michigan Stadium (Ann Abor) becomes the 8th largest city in the state of Michigan on football saturdays.

Mr. Anderson
Oct 18, 2002, 06:11 PM
Nice first post, and I love the name - what's the extra 's' for?

and black holes are black because they trap light - the only way we can figure out they exist is by infering their position by other objects that surround/orbit them and gamma rays.

Its just been announced about the black hole at the center of our galaxy, several million times the mass of our sun and 3 times the size of our solar system (that's pretty damn huge).

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/10/16/black.hole/index.html

D

King Cobra
Oct 18, 2002, 06:25 PM
About 10 years ago, I remember reading a children's book, explaining the basics of our universe and black holes. If I remember correctly, it had in it black holes were 4 miles long. Something much bigger than our solar system seems considerably large compared to 4 miles. I also remember a while back seeing a theoretical black hole, absorbing the surface of a blue star, so close to the star that you could see a blue spiral of lightning-hot color being absorbed into a very small "hole" in space.

This much larger black hole could have been from a huge cluster of stars, collapsing into a single, large black hole, some time ago.

Mr. Anderson
Oct 18, 2002, 06:34 PM
There is no one size for black holes, just like there is no one size for stars. And the large 'jets' of matter that can be seen from the hubble are because of matter getting eaten by a black hole can be so energetic that it can force things away from its center.

King Cobra
Oct 18, 2002, 06:41 PM
>And the large 'jets' of matter that can be seen from the hubble are because of matter getting eaten by a black hole can be so energetic that it can force things away from its center.

Oh, yeah. I knew about that, duke. I was just curious as to why black holes varied in size. And I figure that it would take a Hubble of a Space Telescope to take a picture of it from outside our atmosphere. :)


Facts in Literature on J.D. Salinger, author of Catcher In The Rye:

His IQ was 111.

His driveway was carefully guarded by two hound dogs. (I'm going based on an article I read about two years ago.)

Catcher In The Rye is his most successful and only successful book he ever wrote, but it was banned in some states.

MacBandit
Oct 19, 2002, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by hitman


I'm not so sure about that..

I think time would still exist even if events did not. Time would no longer be defined or restricted as minutes, hours, etc. (i.e. humanity's vision of time) but time as an essence, a period, an undetermined, yet infinite, length...

Here's another question...what's the true definition of time? ;)

Time is based on the passage of events. Without events there is nothing. If there is nothing why would there be time?

Man did create the measurement of time. Though if there was no living life anywhere in the universe what good would the existence of time be? Time doesn't exist without measurement either. It's a non existing thing it's a way for our simple minds to comprehend events around us, to put them in order and to give us a way of being certain places after a certain pasage of events for example when the sun comes up or it sets or is in the middle of the sky. The sun not being a very exact method without some sort of measurement thus time.

MacBandit
Oct 19, 2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by King Cobra
>And the large 'jets' of matter that can be seen from the hubble are because of matter getting eaten by a black hole can be so energetic that it can force things away from its center.

Oh, yeah. I knew about that, duke. I was just curious as to why black holes varied in size. And I figure that it would take a Hubble of a Space Telescope to take a picture of it from outside our atmosphere. :)


Facts in Literature on J.D. Salinger, author of Catcher In The Rye:

His IQ was 111.

His driveway was carefully guarded by two hound dogs. (I'm going based on an article I read about two years ago.)

Catcher In The Rye is his most successful and only successful book he ever wrote, but it was banned in some states.

Here's an interesting thing to wrap your mind around. As Black Holes get bigger they actually get smaller. This is as the mass of a Black Hole gets larger the increase of gravity makes the physical size of it shrink smaller and smaller though it's gravitaional influence gets greater and greater.

This is all theory of course since we know very little about Black Holes. Some believe they get bigger as they consume matter and sometimes black holes combine.

Also Black Holes don't usually spit matter out as we know it more as energy often in the form of X-Rays. I don't believe this process has ever been seen with an optical telescope.

scem0
Oct 19, 2002, 12:58 AM
Well if they are shrinking then what will happen when they shrink so small that they are only the size of an atom/smaller?

MacBandit
Oct 19, 2002, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by scem0
Well if they are shrinking then what will happen when they shrink so small that they are only the size of an atom/smaller?

They evaporate into nothingness is the current theory. Obviously at least to me there must be a huge release of energy (explosion). The law of conservation rules over this saying that the matter has to go somewhere.

Doctor Q
Oct 19, 2002, 01:20 AM
If the Sun became a black hole (don't worry - it won't really, at least not while I'm in charge), it would be very small, with an event horizon of about 3 kilometers. The Earth would get a little chilly, but would stay in its present orbit. Aren't you glad?

MacBandit
Oct 19, 2002, 01:20 AM
Here's recent news on a black hole.

http://SkyandTelescope.com/news/current/article_766_1.asp

To wrap up the story they feel they have inconclusive evidence of a supermassive blackhole at the center of our galaxy with the mass of 2.6Million Solar Masses. After 10years of study they finally detected it by spotting a star circaling it. When the star come it's closest to the black hole back in march it was only 17Light Hours from the hole. That's only 3 times the average distance of Pluto to our sun. The star takes 15years to orbit at a rate of get this 5,000KM/Second or 11,185,002Miles/Hour. Yes that's correct. That would be 447.4 trips around the earth at the equator in 1 Hour. That star must be on the verge of being ripped to shreds.

MacBandit
Oct 19, 2002, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
If the Sun became a black hole (don't worry - it won't really, at least not while I'm in charge), it would be very small, with an event horizon of about 3 kilometers. The Earth would get a little chilly, but would stay in its present orbit. Aren't you glad?

Of course it would stay in the same orbit. Maybe this isn't obvious to some but just because a star collapses in on itself and becomes a black hole doesn't mean that it's gravitational strength goes up. The mass of an object more then anything rules how much gravitational force it will have therefore if the star doesn't gain any matter some how durring it's collapse it has the same amount of mass and therefore no greater gravitational force.

Doctor Q
Oct 19, 2002, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
They evaporate into nothingness is the current theory. Obviously at least to me there must be a huge release of energy (explosion). The law of conservation rules over this saying that the matter has to go somewhere.

I disagree. If the theories of evaporation are correct as I understand them, the process works as follows:

A pair consisting of a particle and a corresponding anti-particle can form spontaneously and then instantly destroy each other. But when such a pair forms at exactly the event horizon of a black hole, one particle can escape from the black hole while the other remains inside. This release of energy/mass slowly saps the energy/mass from the black hole. One day, you'll wake up, look out the window, and find that your black hole is all gone, without even a press release!

MacBandit
Oct 19, 2002, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q


I disagree. If the theories of evaporation are correct as I understand them, the process works as follows:

A pair consisting of a particle and a corresponding anti-particle can form spontaneously and then instantly destroy each other. But when such a pair forms at exactly the event horizon of a black hole, one particle can escape from the black hole while the other remains inside. This release of energy/mass slowly saps the energy/mass from the black hole. One day, you'll wake up, look out the window, and find that your black hole is all gone, without even a press release!

So no big explosion or anything but still the law of conservation rules. In that the matter still exists in energy or in some other form. Instead of an explosion it truly evaporates and apparently probably takes a long time.

dabirdwell
Oct 19, 2002, 01:24 PM
I think some supermassive black holes can accrete matter and energy fast enough to maintain their integrity long enough to form a singularity, an ultracompressed point with gravity so great that no matter or energy ever leaves, and in the singuarity these phases (matter and energy) cease to be distinguishable.

Incidentally, the disk that forms around a black hole as it absorbs a star or nebula is called an accretion disk.

scem0
Oct 19, 2002, 01:32 PM
Black holes seem to become the topic of every thread now days... Remember: THis is a trivia thread, not a black hole thread.

King Cobra
Oct 19, 2002, 05:37 PM
How about fortunes?

"A complaint about a black hole discussion will be made by a spinning face avatar."

I guess that worked. :D http://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon2.gif :D

Fact: Your stomach is not located where your gut sticks out the farthest, but rather protected around the bottom of the rib cage.

In Wells, Maine, around mid summer, when sharks were sighted, the #1 selling items became something related to sharks, such as a shark key chain.

The only [singluar] word in the English language with 3 double letters in a row is bookkeeper.

Black holes suck. :p

vniow
Oct 19, 2002, 05:38 PM
Interesting pointless obvious fact:

This structure cannot exist in reality:

King Cobra
Oct 19, 2002, 05:55 PM
V, what is the image with the three pronged fork illusion? Where can I see it?

Fact: The eye sees everything upside down, but the brain switches the image to what you are used to. :D

Mr. Anderson
Oct 19, 2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by edvniow
Interesting pointless obvious fact:

This structure cannot exist in reality:

that almost works, its better done as an illustration than a 3d rendering - but even so, its a good job.

I'm talking about the part of the ladder thats split by one of the columns - in the illustration versions there wouldn't be a break.

D

vniow
Oct 19, 2002, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
V, what is the image with the three pronged fork illusion? Where can I see it?




Found it while looking for this Linux animation app called Blender. That was one of the sample pics.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/smiley.gif

Doctor Q
Oct 19, 2002, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by scem0
Black holes seem to become the topic of every thread now days.
The reason that black holes become the topic of every thread has to do with electromagnetism, particle physics, general relativity, and string theory. I don't understand it all myself, except for the obvious connection between string theory and threads! :)

scem0
Oct 19, 2002, 09:52 PM
How many faces can you find?

http://www.optillusions.com/illusions/11.jpg

How many colors do you see?
http://www.optillusions.com/illusions2/08.gif
Answer: There are only 3 colors, even though it looks as if there are 2 shades of pink in addition to the white and green.

Is the left middle circle larger?
http://www.optillusions.com/illusions2/03.gif
No, they are the same size.

Is it a duck or a bunny?
http://www.optillusions.com/illusions4/04.gif

Who is that?
http://www.optillusions.com/illusions2/01.jpg
Looks like Ex-President Bill Clinton
and his Vice President Al Gore, right?
Wrong... It's Clinton's face twice, with two different haircuts.

If I was to say this was only a picture of a face, I would be a liar :D:
http://www.optillusions.com/illusions2/02.gif

scem0
Oct 19, 2002, 09:56 PM
I wasn't going to post any more, but this one is way to cool to pass up:

Stare at the gray dot in the center
and move your head forward and backward.
As your head moves closer to your monitor
and then back away from your monitor, the circles
will appear to be spinning.

http://www.optillusions.com/illusions3/03.gif

Cool huh?

vniow
Oct 19, 2002, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by scem0


If I was to say this was only a picture of a face, I would be a liar :D:
http://www.optillusions.com/illusions2/02.gif


Ok that's the only one I can't figure out.
Call me stupid.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/rolleyes.gif

scem0
Oct 20, 2002, 12:14 AM
Try looking at it sideways :D.........

vniow
Oct 20, 2002, 12:20 AM
Nope.
Still don't see it.
I'm probably going to feel incredibly stupid once I find out what it is right?

Spike Spiegel
Oct 20, 2002, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by edvniow
Nope.
Still don't see it.
I'm probably going to feel incredibly stupid once I find out what it is right?
think about what he said he would be had he said it was only a face...

scem0
Oct 20, 2002, 01:35 AM
I know for a fact that you are gunna feel stupid when you figure out. Look at my wording when I first posted it :rolleyes: ...

scem0
Oct 20, 2002, 10:07 AM
Okay, Ill tell y'all. If youlook at it sideways it spells 'liar' but it is hard to see that until you know about it. :D:D:D:D:D:D

vniow
Oct 20, 2002, 12:37 PM
Okay, I see it now
Somehow I was thinking it was some sort of sexual reference.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/rolleyes.gifhttp://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/ppphhht.gif

scem0
Oct 20, 2002, 02:49 PM
Everthing seems to have a sexual reference nowadays.