WTB: G4 Powerbook

[PaRaGoNViCtiM]

I'm looking to either buy or trade my G5 iMac for a G4 Powerbook. I am in desperate need of a Powerbook. I'm looking for either a 12' or 15'. I only want 1.33GHZ or above. If anyone has anything to offer my email is PaRaGoNViCtiM@Mac.com
Please throw any and all offers at me.
What's better to have the Aluminum or the Titanium? And which models come in either?

[zach]

Titanium maxes out at 1 GHz, so I don't think you'll be interested in that.

[StarbucksSam]

The answer to your Al/Ti question:

The Titanium PowerBooks are all older... they were available only in the 15" and they go up to 1ghz I believe.

The Aluminum PowerBooks are better. They have had four revisions so far... we are currently on Rev "D".

They are all available in 12/15/17.

Your 1.33 qualification is the lower end of Rev. C. The 12" Rev. C was available in 1.33 ghz. The 15" version was either 1.33 or 1.5 and the 17" was 1.5.

In Rev. D, the current Rev there are FIVE MODELS:

12" Combo Drive @ 1.5
12" SuperDrive @ 1.5
15" Lower End @ 1.5
15" Upper End @ 1.67
17" SuperDrive @1.67

These models are 1499, 1699, 1999, 2299, 2699 respectively from Apple at http://apple.com/powerbook and they almost all have 150 dollar rebates at Amazon this week.

Hope that helps.

P.S. The 12" PowerBook is fabulous. I have one and it's just like.. wow. Amazing. It's ultra compact and it's zippy too.

[ChrisBrightwell]

The Aluminum PowerBooks are better. They have had four revisions so far... we are currently on Rev "D".
Isn't the 15" technically on Revision C? It didn't get stepped up to Al until at least one iteration of the Al Powerbook were done, did it?

[StarbucksSam]

Isn't the 15" technically on Revision C? It didn't get stepped up to Al until at least one iteration of the Al Powerbook were done, did it?

If you want to be technical... I GUESS... but they are pretty much clumped together as one line now so you can't say it's Rev. C and/or D. lol. I don't even know for a fact that Apple uses these "Rev" designations - it might just be a MacRumors thing.

[Kwyjibo]

If you want to be technical... I GUESS... but they are pretty much clumped together as one line now so you can't say it's Rev. C and/or D. lol. I don't even know for a fact that Apple uses these "Rev" designations - it might just be a MacRumors thing.


revision is just like generation ... apple doesn't have to use that same term but they certainly use the concept ... yeah the 15"'s are REV C ... they aren't clumped together as one or atleast i'm sure apple doesn't think of them that way ...

[PaRaGoNViCtiM]

Thank you StarBucks, your information was very useful. I'd love to have 1.5GHz model, but the 1.33 is acceptable. If anyone has anything, let me know. Starbucks..I'm having a hard time deciding between the 12' and the 15' any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

[StarbucksSam]

Thank you StarBucks, your information was very useful. I'd love to have 1.5GHz model, but the 1.33 is acceptable. If anyone has anything, let me know. Starbucks..I'm having a hard time deciding between the 12' and the 15' any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

The 12" vs. 15" - I am talking in terms of the current models - but I think it was pretty much the same with the 1.33.

The 12" has certain advantages including the price which is lower by $500, the compact form factor (4.6 pounds) and the zippy processor @ 1.5ghz.

The 15" has certain advantages too, including the fact that you can put in up to 2GB of RAM as opposed to 1.256 with the 12" PowerBook. Also, this has two RAM slots, as opposed to 1 removable and one-built in like the 12".

For instance, you could put in either 256, 512, 768, or 1.256 into the 12" BUT you could put in 256, 512, 768, 1 GB, 1.256, 1.512, 1.768, or 2.

That being said, 1.256 is PLENTY of RAM for almost any task.

The 15" also is the only one of the two where you can get the faster processor AND the dual VRAM... but this comes at a HIGH PRICE. To get the faster processor you must opt for the $2299 15" and then ADD MORE MONEY to get the dual video memory.

In conclusion, there is a big BIG price difference in the two models ... especially if you configure the 15" model to the point where it is advantageous to have that over the 12".

If you are doing Photoshop work, you'll probably want the $2299 15" OR a 12" with an external screen. However, if what you like to do is browse, IM, chat, e-mail, work, and shop, and maybe a bit of graphics work, you should be all set with the 12" and you'll be happy to have the extremely compact subnotebook as opposed to something much MUCH larger that you don't need.

I recommend the 12" highly if your purposes are anything like mine. I have had mine for 8 days and I very quickly adapted to the 12" screen. If you have vision problems, you probably don't want it - but you're otherwise okay.

Hope that helps.

[umgolfer]

I had a 1.5 Rev. D 15" model until earlier this week when I got a Rev. D 12" 1.5 (thru a trade with another Macrumors member). I strongly believe that 15" is too big to be considered an easy laptop to travel with. I loved the extra screen space the 15" had, but the battery life was a lot less, it was heavier, and actually a pain to travel around with. I very much like the 12" size factor as it is much lighter and easier to bring with me to work/home/etc... I really wanted a 15" model, sold my 12" iBook G4 and bought a 15", and about a week later I regretted it. That's just my 2 cents...

Jason

[buryyourbrideau]

haha for one time i believe you can say smaller is better

i got a BTO ibook 14in and i regret it a LOT

i wish i wouldve opted for either a 12 or a 12 PB

life goes on, whenever the G5 comes out then one will be in my hands :)

[California]

Yes, but for a writer the ibook 14" is better than every other PB because you can see the WHOLE page in one shot -- less scroll time. This is the only thing I hate about my 15" PB -- it slows down the actually writing time.

[Koodauw]

Yes, but for a writer the ibook 14" is better than every other PB because you can see the WHOLE page in one shot -- less scroll time. This is the only thing I hate about my 15" PB -- it slows down the actually writing time.

How does that work? I thought the 14'' iBook has the same resolution as the 12''.

Are any offers under 1.33 GHz unwelcome?

[buryyourbrideau]

How does that work? I thought the 14'' iBook has the same resolution as the 12''.


it most certainly does have te same res as the 12

however that dosnt mean that you can see as much, might be the same quality, but not the same size

i.e. take a 14 in piece of paper and then rip the bottom 2 in off and say read the bottom of that paper.

point = you CANT
;)

[StarbucksSam]

it most certainly does have te same res as the 12

however that dosnt mean that you can see as much, might be the same quality, but not the same size

i.e. take a 14 in piece of paper and then rip the bottom 2 in off and say read the bottom of that paper.

point = you CANT
;)

Screens are measured diagonally. If you want to challenge that as a fact I'll cut you off right there:

There is no way my 12" screen on my Powerbook is 12" across. The PowerBook is only 10.9" wide.

Therefore that bottom thing was just... wrong. Essentially, things are added proportionally.

[buryyourbrideau]

Screens are measured diagonally. If you want to challenge that as a fact I'll cut you off right there:

There is no way my 12" screen on my Powerbook is 12" across. The PowerBook is only 10.9" wide.

Therefore that bottom thing was just... wrong. Essentially, things are added proportionally.


my apologies sam

my point was that you can see the whole page on a 14 and not a 12

sorry for making my point unclear

[StarbucksSam]

my apologies sam

my point was that you can see the whole page on a 14 and not a 12

sorry for making my point unclear

No problemo. I make mistakes ALL the time and I'm always VERY embarrassed when it happens. Don't feel bad... I didn't mean to like.. make you feel bad.

[umgolfer]

haha for one time i believe you can say smaller is better

i got a BTO ibook 14in and i regret it a LOT

i wish i wouldve opted for either a 12 or a 12 PB

life goes on, whenever the G5 comes out then one will be in my hands :)

hehe...this may be the only time smaller is better.... :p

[debroglie]

my apologies sam

my point was that you can see the whole page on a 14 and not a 12

sorry for making my point unclear


umm.... since the 12 and 14 inch ibooks have the same resolution, they display the same number of pixels, hence they display the same amount of a page. albiet the page will look small on the 12 inch, but at the same zoom settings, they will display the same amount of the page.

are you talking about having different zoom settings on each notebook?

[buryyourbrideau]

umm.... since the 12 and 14 inch ibooks have the same resolution, they display the same number of pixels, hence they display the same amount of a page. albiet the page will look small on the 12 inch, but at the same zoom settings, they will display the same amount of the page.

are you talking about having different zoom settings on each notebook?

yea kind of, i guess my point was kinda wrong, yea you can see the whole page but it is pretty small and kind of difficult to read, so on the 14 you can see it as it will look when it prints, not on the 12, as you said you have to zoom

[ChrisBrightwell]

Yes, but for a writer the ibook 14" is better than every other PB because you can see the WHOLE page in one shot -- less scroll time. This is the only thing I hate about my 15" PB -- it slows down the actually writing time.
Well I use Word @ 100% on my 15" PB w/ no problem, but my eyes are young.

I can't imagine looking at the 14" iBook screen for several hours at a time, though. My eyes would jump out of my skull and roll out into the street so someone would put them out of their misery.

:D

[JMT529]

I have a RevC 1.33ghz 12" Powerbook that I may sell. It's less than 2 months old and still in perfect condition. Make an offer if you are interested. Thanks.

[PaRaGoNViCtiM]

What are the specs on your Rev C Powerbook? Would you be willing to trade it for a G5 iMac?