Oh man, Dell FPW2005 for 397 dollars

[Shacklebolt]

I can get a 20" Dell FPW2005 flat screen this weekend (promos on the internet) for 397 dollars shipped. The screen is the friggin' same screen as in the apple cinema display. Even with educational discount, that's a 350 dollar difference between the Apple 20" cinema display and the Dell, and it's the same screen. I'm buying this to go with my new 15" pbook. why on earth would i want to spend another 350 for the same monitor?

[jessearl]

Hey buddy,
Ya' mind sharing this information with the rest of us?

Don't hog all the deals for yourself!

:)

[macbaseball]

Here it is:

35% off code: S0BDZ6HBTFDPSL

$90 off purchases over $750: C621VV5TS$75M9

The combination totals $397

Hopefully a lot of you can take advantage of this, as the 35% off deal is limited to 2,000 uses.

One catch, you have to make another purchase to get the monitor up to $750. Just grab some CDs or something like that.

[D0ct0rteeth]

Im tryin.

I cant get it to work.

2005FPW

Add $1 for padding to $750, then apply:
S0BDZ6HBTFDPSL for 35% off.
C621VV5TS$75M9 for $90 off.

Total: $397 shipped.

what do you add for $1?

- Doc

[macbaseball]

Im tryin.

I cant get it to work.

2005FPW

Add $1 for padding to $750, then apply:
S0BDZ6HBTFDPSL for 35% off.
C621VV5TS$75M9 for $90 off.

Total: $397 shipped.

what do you add for $1?

- Doc

You don't. It ends up being about $407. You have to buy another item for $10, because I couldn't find anyhing lower. Try adding
this. (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=A0037965&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=5710&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx)

[aaandrewww]

This is the cheapest thing I could find to pad the price

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=producthighlights&sku=A0226626&spagenum=&category_id=6114&brandid=&k=&c=us&l=en&cs=19&mnf=&prst=&prEnd=&mnfsku=&orderby=&searchtype=&pageb4search=&page=productlisting.aspx&instock=&refurbished=

[macbaseball]

This is the cheapest thing I could find to pad the price

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=producthighlights&sku=A0226626&spagenum=&category_id=6114&brandid=&k=&c=us&l=en&cs=19&mnf=&prst=&prEnd=&mnfsku=&orderby=&searchtype=&pageb4search=&page=productlisting.aspx&instock=&refurbished=

The CDs are $11, and you can actually use them.

[johnbro23]

That is an awesome deal. Either Dell is losing some money on that, or Apple is making a killing. Probably a little of both.

[macbaseball]

That is an awesome deal. Either Dell is losing some money on that, or Apple is making a killing. Probably a little of both.

Dell probably just makes a little bit off of each, hoping to get a lot of people to bite. Apple on the other hand, has a large markup because their market is a lot smaller. Also people who buy them don't really care because it's an "Apple".

[digitalturtle]

I can get a 20" Dell FPW2005 flat screen this weekend (promos on the internet) for 397 dollars shipped. The screen is the friggin' same screen as in the apple cinema display.


IT IS NOT THE SAME FRIGGIN SCREEN. THE PANELS ARE DIFFERENT. Same size, yes. Same resolution, yes. Same panel, no. I have both the Dell and Apple display and find the Apple display to be the better of the two. IMHO.
The Dell is a good display I just find the Apple display to be more useful and pleasing to the eye. The Dell seems to be cranked up a bit to much.

Two cents.

[macbaseball]

IT IS NOT THE SAME FRIGGIN SCREEN. THE PANELS ARE DIFFERENT. Same size, yes. Same resolution, yes. Same panel, no. I have both the Dell and Apple display and find the Apple display to be the better of the two. IMHO.
The Dell is a good display I just find the Apple display to be more useful and pleasing to the eye. The Dell seems to be cranked up a bit to much.

Two cents.

I've never seen a Dell display, but I love the way the Apple display looks, so I'm getting one Monday. (It's my birthday). I honestly don't care what the Dell looks like, I just know I like the Apple display. Also there will be a little white Apple on it instead of the word Dell. :D

[ramuman]

IT IS NOT THE SAME FRIGGIN SCREEN. THE PANELS ARE DIFFERENT. Same size, yes. Same resolution, yes. Same panel, no. I have both the Dell and Apple display and find the Apple display to be the better of the two. IMHO.
The Dell is a good display I just find the Apple display to be more useful and pleasing to the eye. The Dell seems to be cranked up a bit to much.

Two cents.

The panel is the exact same LG unit (read the Anandtech review). The build quality is world's apart. Of course, if its twice the difference in price apart is up to the buyer.

[fuzzwud]

not that i prefer eBay to buy expensive electronic items, but there's so many of these LCDs being sold on eBay. If you check the completed listing price, they're only going for $400-480 on eBay, new. I suspect that Dell is trying to get rid of these monitors. And I can't say that this is a very good deal if you're trying to resell on eBay.

[digitalturtle]

The panel is the exact same LG unit (read the Anandtech review). The build quality is world's apart. Of course, if its twice the difference in price apart is up to the buyer.


If it's the same display then why are the specs different? Because it is a different display. Are they both made by LG? Yes probably. But just because Logitech OEMs the Apple Mouse/Keyboard whatever doesn't mean it's the same as the Logitech mouse.

[lazyboy922]

Just ordered mine! came to $433 with tax!

[Capt Underpants]

If it's the same display then why are the specs different? Because it is a different display. Are they both made by LG? Yes probably. But just because Logitech OEMs the Apple Mouse/Keyboard whatever doesn't mean it's the same as the Logitech mouse.

Read this. You're wrong. (http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=2400)

[supergod]

Yes, I concur. Completely wrong.

As far as which display is better, that answer would simply have to be the Dell. It has slightly better color accuracy. Which would I rather have? That would have to be the Apple... if they were both the same price. Let's see, Dell is half the price, has more inputs plus some nifty PiP and a height adjustable stand... what a competition!

Apple displays are very silly specimens...

[cmvsm]

Yes, I concur. Completely wrong.

As far as which display is better, that answer would simply have to be the Dell. It has slightly better color accuracy. Which would I rather have? That would have to be the Apple... if they were both the same price. Let's see, Dell is half the price, has more inputs plus some nifty PiP and a height adjustable stand... what a competition!

Apple displays are very silly specimens...

Displays are the same, the rest of the Dell monitor is built like a pig. If you read the same Anandtech article I did, the Dell monitor scored lower than the Apple cinema in color scales and intensity. The article also went as far as saying that Dell overexaggerated their specs in terms of image quality.

According to the article, one of the largest complaints received from consumers about the Dell 2005FPW that it had severe screen uniformity problems. Anandtech stated that it was a troublesome complaint as it points to poor construction or poor handling while being constructed.

The article also makes mention of low quality DVI video outputs and cables found in the monitor which has been causing image issues in terms of the monitor capturing and holding the DVI signal at 1680x1050 resolution.

Thanks goes to Capt. Underpants for providing that informative article.

You get what you pay for.

[Shacklebolt]

Yeah, that article was quite good.

But the article does go to rather large lengths to say that the monitors are very, very similar, and to me, a 310 dollar price difference is quite something. You can buy a photopod with that money. You can buy a 300 set of headphones with that money. You can buy a 250gig external hard drive with that money.

[edesignuk]

I really don't want to get in to this whole Apple 20 vs Dell 20 again...but...

Even with the price drop on the Apple, it is still no where near the value of the Dell. The Dell is excellent, it does look good (what the hell is so ugly about a slim black bezel???), and has a fantastic picture quality, not to mention a far better warranty (Warranty : 3 year next busness day exchange :cool: ), and multiple inputs.

There is no way that aluminum case is worth the massive premium.

...IMO...:)

[mcarnes]

You can buy a photopod with that money. You can buy a 300 set of headphones with that money. You can buy a 250gig external hard drive with that money.

You could also upgrade to a better display with that money, like, I dunno, a Apple 20" display maybe! :p

[Passante]

You could also upgrade to a better display with that money, like, I dunno, a Apple 20" display maybe! :p

Wow that changed my paradigm :eek:

[atomwork]

Hi all, may be it is me that only think so, but to keep Apple as a premium computer brand for professionals that stands for and delivers constant innovation, design and perfection I assume that prices will always be higher then the competition. It's just comes with the territory.

I know it sounds silly for the guy that ain't got the cash for apples stuff but on the other hand I enjoy having a product that is for professionals and not affordable by anyone. The others can use coupons and savings to get a cheaper deal.. Hey, that's great. But please not ask apple to lowe their customer level. Stop bitching about it. You don't get B&O products for Kenwood prices ;).. They may be sound the same but don't look alike.. you know what I mean.


Cheers,
D

[edesignuk]

You don't get B&O products for Kenwood pricesB&O and Kenwood don't use essentially the same product then charge you ~double :rolleyes:

[supergod]

Most of the uniformity problems were in the first year of monitors, the newer ones have no such problem. I compared my monitor to my friends Cinema Display, side by side mine looked a little bit better, not a huge difference, but noticable.

[justinshiding]

I bought the same monitor yesterday ! :) Techbargains.com is a wonderful site , they post some really great deals there.

I ended up adding diablo 2 to my order for 20 dollars, to boost it over the 750 , which seemed like a fair price. I was going to add the cd-rs, but they seemed over priced for what they are...but either way :).

I can't wait to get it...mmmm...monitory goodness.

cheers,
justin

[Abstract]

IT IS NOT THE SAME FRIGGIN SCREEN. THE PANELS ARE DIFFERENT. Same size, yes. Same resolution, yes. Same panel, no. I have both the Dell and Apple display and find the Apple display to be the better of the two. IMHO.
The Dell is a good display I just find the Apple display to be more useful and pleasing to the eye. The Dell seems to be cranked up a bit to much.

Two cents.
In some instances, Dell gets better panels than Apple, while sometimes they get the same.

Also, about being "cranked up way too much", ALL lcd displays are cranked up too much. Its just that Dell's default calibration settings are more "off" than Apples displays (in most cases). You'd have to calibrate the colour of both the Dell and Apple displays anyway, and in many cases, Dell provides better brightness and contrast than ACDs if they're both calibrated well.

[Abstract]

^^Exactly. And even if they did use the same parts, the only people who buy the B&O are the elitest types who can't buy something thats "common." Its just like people who buy Macs only because less people use them.

But hell, if that makes some people in this world happy.....

[cmvsm]

Most of the uniformity problems were in the first year of monitors, the newer ones have no such problem. I compared my monitor to my friends Cinema Display, side by side mine looked a little bit better, not a huge difference, but noticable.

When you take something that is massed produced, such as Dell's anything, you're going to get your highs and lows on a consistent basis. Their quality control is not as stringent as Apple's, and the Anendtech article mentions this as well. A small sampling reveals this, as it is not just based off of one or two monitors. Sounds like you got lucky.

Yes, without Apple Care, (and you should have this anyway), the Dell warranty is 3 years to Apple's 1, but who wants to go around exchanging monitors all the time because you bought the coupon based, mass produced, blue light special, deal of the day?

Same goes with the PC's versus Macs. Why do we pay a premium for Macs? A PC will get you where you want to go as well, but a PC is not built as well, doesn't look as good, and is plagued with other consistent problems down the road.

An as edesignuk stated, I refuse to get myself into another one of these conversations... :D

[atomwork]

^^Exactly. And even if they did use the same parts, the only people who buy the B&O are the elitest types who can't buy something thats "common." Its just like people who buy Macs only because less people use them.

But hell, if that makes some people in this world happy.....


I use apple for more then 15 years. Fun and professional. I love my tools. they always work, never let me down. I hope they keep up the good work and don't lower their standards. I rather buy something good and expensive then buying more from a lower product over the same time due to failures. Anyway. You all know what I want to say... Everyone should be happy with what he can effort.

[jessica.]

Good deal! I just laid down $400 on a flash unit which was super necessary (need it for today where I'll earn it all back in less than a day). However, I think MacRumors is big enough where they should offer a text message to users who subscribe when deals like this break! I for one would even be willing to pay a few bucks a month for it.

[noel4r]

Somebody here once posted this about Dell:

Dell is like Walmart, sometimes you cant afford not to shop there.

[deelerious]

Good deal! I just laid down $400 on a flash unit which was super necessary (need it for today where I'll earn it all back in less than a day). However, I think MacRumors is big enough where they should offer a text message to users who subscribe when deals like this break! I for one would even be willing to pay a few bucks a month for it.

You can subscribe to deal email alerts at dealmac.com (http://dealmac.com)

[blackpeter]

This is a GREAT deal. Even with the California taxes and environmental fees, it's $450 shipped.

I've grown to trust Anandtech's reviews. They are clear that the Apple is a better product due to it's design and cable management. But for the intended purpose of a display, I can't justify spending $300+ for those small luxuries.

Dude, I can't believe I'm getting a Dell.

[blackpeter]

This is a GREAT deal. Even with the California taxes and environmental fees, it's $450 shipped.

I've grown to trust Anandtech's reviews. They are clear that the Apple is a better product due to it's design and cable management. But for the intended purpose of a display, I can't justify spending $300+ for those small luxuries.

Dude, I can't believe I'm getting a Dell.

edit: The first post on this topic is slightly inaccurate. $397 is the price BEFORE tax. Shipping is free, but you'll pay some taxes.

[Mav451]

Yes, without Apple Care, (and you should have this anyway), the Dell warranty is 3 years to Apple's 1, but who wants to go around exchanging monitors all the time because you bought the coupon based, mass produced, blue light special, deal of the day?

Its not a "blue light special". Dell consistently has these sales...so rarely does anyone EVER pay full price. For a Dell product, it would be highly naive and ignorant to even consider paying the normal price ($749). What is more ridiculous was that Apple's 20inchers used to be $999 (before the recent price drop). We're talking about supposed quality control costing (at a time) a near 100% premium.

I don't know about you, but a factor of two is stretching it.

[Deefuzz]

I just ordered this monitor to finally replace my old CRT for the PC.

Great price IMO, can't wait to clear out some desk space from that monster 19 inch CRT I've got!

[Whistleway]

I am new here. Will this work on Mac Mini?

Thanks.

[yOyOYoo]

Stupid question, but can I use this monitor as a TV?

I know I can hook it up to my 12" powerbook and use as a deskotp monitor... but about using it as a TV... is that possible?

[macbaseball]

I am new here. Will this work on Mac Mini?

Thanks.

Yeah it will work fine. Apple uses the 20 inch display in their stores for the Mini. Also there are a lot of people who have paired this monitor with their Mini. Do a search and you will fine some people with first hand experience.

[NtotheIzoo]

I just bought this...paid 403 w/ shipping and tax...what a great deal...cant wait till it gets here...dont care if its not as good as the apple...i buy one l8er...dont really have the money now, but how can one pass up this amazing deal...thanks for the coupons...

[matticus008]

Stupid question, but can I use this monitor as a TV?

I know I can hook it up to my 12" powerbook and use as a deskotp monitor... but about using it as a TV... is that possible?

Yes, but not easily. You'd need either a standalone tuner of some sort or a TV tuner card for your computer (and in all honesty, a PC in order to get a quality tuner). With your PowerBook, the answer is pretty much no. But Dell does sell some cheap LCD TVs, too, if you want it for that purpose.

[Brigrat]

What a great deal! I just did placed my order!

Ironically, I was planning on purchasing two things this weekend:

1. A spindle of CDR's
2. A flat panel monitor for my new mini, and my wife's PB

I just got both shipped, + tax for $430!

In California no less!

[imbriumink]

Same goes with the PC's versus Macs. Why do we pay a premium for Macs? A PC will get you where you want to go as well, but a PC is not built as well, doesn't look as good, and is plagued with other consistent problems down the road.

Ok. My friends iBook needed its logic board replaced. His battery failed to hold a charge at all only after a year and a half. My Powerbook needed to have almost all of its internal components replaced after some hardware got "corrupted" Applecare said. You're paying for a nicely designed product when you pay the premium from apple. Not necessarily build quality. Much like buying European luxury vehicles. A friend's $90k Mercedes SL needs constant maintenance compared to my Civic. BTW. I ordered the Dell as well.

[punkbass25]

Ok. My friends iBook needed its logic board replaced. His battery failed to hold a charge at all only after a year and a half. My Powerbook needed to have almost all of its internal components replaced after some hardware got "corrupted" Applecare said. You're paying for a nicely designed product when you pay the premium from apple. Not necessarily build quality. Much like buying European luxury vehicles. A friend's $90k Mercedes SL needs constant maintenance compared to my Civic. BTW. I ordered the Dell as well.

you cannot compare computers and cars like that... ok first off a ferrari needs more maintenance then anything is it because of poor craftsman ship? poor build quality? no its not. its because a ferrari is a highly TUNED machine, and like any other instrument that needs to be tuned, it falls out of tune. Being that the degree of tuning is much higher, it is that much easier for it to fall out of tune.

a $90,000 Mercedes needs constant maintenance, notice you didn't say repair, repair would imply there is somethign wrong with it. but maintenance is like running software update, and running the periodic scripts for your mac, not disk first aid, or tech tools.

the reason your civic doesn't need maintenance is because it isn't in tune so it cant go out of tune, also its built by a company that places emphasis on drivetrain durability. and not on performance.

thats why that analogy doesn't make any sense...

also there are plenty lemon honda's just as there are lemon mercedes

[iJaz]

Yes, but not easily. You'd need either a standalone tuner of some sort or a TV tuner card for your computer (and in all honesty, a PC in order to get a quality tuner). With your PowerBook, the answer is pretty much no. But Dell does sell some cheap LCD TVs, too, if you want it for that purpose.
A bit OT.
So the Elgato TV-tuners aren't good? I was just about to buy one.
How about the Formac?