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jefhatfield
Oct 13, 2002, 09:38 AM
how many here have a pc?

how many don't own a pc, but have used one in school, work, or elsewhere?

how many have never used a pc, ever?

do any of you plan on buying a pc in the future?



edesignuk
Oct 13, 2002, 09:45 AM
Yup, I own and use several peecee's, I'm quite a recent Mac convert and have had PC's for years. I use both platforms all the time.

jefhatfield
Oct 13, 2002, 09:52 AM
my first inklings with a computer was with QDOS or digital research's OS at the time before the IBM PC era...no screen, just a roll of tan paper with code being burned onto it...very boring, really ;)

the first real computer i used was the apple II+ and apple IIe a few years later

it wasn't until 1995 that i tried a 386/486 piece of crap running windows 3.1 and it turned me off to PCs until i became a PC salesman in 1999...then that turned me around...tons of really cool gear...we sold e-machines, compaq, ibm, and hp with the latter being the most expensive, but the best (at that time)

during that time three years back, i got a new compaq laptop and an ibook and i like them both, favoring the ibook most of the time;)

Over Achiever
Oct 13, 2002, 10:35 AM
Yup I got PCs. A 200 MHz NEC desktop and a 550 MHz HP laptop. Do I plan on buying a PC...maybe.

When I'm filthy rich, I'll drop $5000 and buy this PC laptop:

Xentex Flippad Voyager.



It gots a 20" screen :)
(it folds up twice for a smaller footprint...it weighs 12 pounds or 5.5 kg)

jefhatfield
Oct 13, 2002, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Over Achiever
Yup I got PCs. A 200 MHz NEC desktop and a 550 MHz HP laptop. Do I plan on buying a PC...maybe.

When I'm filthy rich, I'll drop $5000 and buy this PC laptop:

Xentex Flippad Voyager.

It gots a 20" screen :)

dual 13" inch screens, baby!!!

that is a monster...i would love to have that thing

i would hire jerome bettis or the rock(scorpion king) to carry it around for me though:p

jefhatfield
Oct 13, 2002, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Over Achiever
Yup I got PCs. A 200 MHz NEC desktop and a 550 MHz HP laptop. Do I plan on buying a PC...maybe.

When I'm filthy rich, I'll drop $5000 and buy this PC laptop:

Xentex Flippad Voyager.

It gots a 20" screen :)



i didn't know that thing folded again on itself twice making it have a very small footprint to carry around...wow!

irmongoose
Oct 13, 2002, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Over Achiever
Yup I got PCs. A 200 MHz NEC desktop and a 550 MHz HP laptop. Do I plan on buying a PC...maybe.

When I'm filthy rich, I'll drop $5000 and buy this PC laptop:

Xentex Flippad Voyager.

It gots a 20" screen :)


Damn dude, that thing is crazy (like, literally). It's friggin huge... I'm speechless... and not in the good way.




irmongoose

funkywhat2
Oct 13, 2002, 12:01 PM
right now, I have a gateway essential 500, with a 17" samsung/gateway monitor.

my first experence was with a toshiba notebook, then a midwest micro machine. i was the first person to have cable modem access on my block. it blew the machine up.

hopefuly, i'll have my mac soon enough, but i'm still going to have a pc. maybe i'll get a profile 4;)

i like that laptop. but 12 freakin' pounds? thats not worth dual screens, al least not 13" ones.

scem0
Oct 13, 2002, 01:30 PM
I used to own a dell laptop, but I sold it. I have never had more trouble with a computer before. Michael Dell's daughter used to go to my school, I should have told her to tell her dad that he needs better support on his website, and better call in support. I have to use a PC in school every day for computer science. I use macs whenever I can though.

vniow
Oct 13, 2002, 01:31 PM
Yah, a PC's all I got.
I'll prabably keep it when I get a Mac though cuz the Linux world is going to get real interesting in the near future.;)

Computer_Phreak
Oct 13, 2002, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by scem0
I used to own a dell laptop, but I sold it. I have never had more trouble with a computer before. Michael Dell's daughter used to go to my school, I should have told her ....

Fill in the ....


Lets see what the funniest thing we can come up with is. :)

SilvorX
Oct 13, 2002, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
how many here have a pc?

how many don't own a pc, but have used one in school, work, or elsewhere?

how many have never used a pc, ever?

do any of you plan on buying a pc in the future?
i have a cruddy pc
i dont know many ppl who never used a pc in their life :P
http://64.95.118.51/images/opti/2a/99/658138-elec_lg-resized200.jpg
yucky...

shadowfax
Oct 13, 2002, 02:57 PM
Yah, a PC's all I got.
I'll prabably keep it when I get a Mac though cuz the Linux world is going to get real interesting in the near future.

howso, edvniow? and which linux release do you prefer? my grandfather is an avid redhat user, always downloading the latest versions.

vniow
Oct 13, 2002, 03:05 PM
I tried out Mandrake 8.2 and had mixed feelings about it.
I liked some of the features but getting everything to work required coding skill which is alien language to me.
I'm glad I did it though, now I keep up on the latest Linux news.
I'm waiting for it to become a bit more usr friendly before I try it out again.

Does your grandfather have the latest Red Hat? I heard 8.0 is more if a desktop Linux than anything else out there.:)

SilvorX
Oct 13, 2002, 03:16 PM
i have mandrake on a small partition but i never use it anymore...i just couldnt understand it :P lol

funkywhat2
Oct 13, 2002, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Computer_Phreak


Fill in the ....


Lets see what the funniest thing we can come up with is. :)

to shove it up stevie's ass

edesignuk
Oct 13, 2002, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by edvniow
I heard 8.0 is more if a desktop Linux than anything else out there.:)
I've just been and checked out Redhat 8.0, it looks great, take a look at this demo (http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/flash/redhat6_5.html).

Edit: Just FYI, RedHat 8.0 can be downloaded here (ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/8.0/en/iso/i386/) , no good for those on dial-up though, it's 5 x 650Mb (approx) ISO images! :eek:

monkeydo_jb
Oct 13, 2002, 06:35 PM
I've always been a pc user. I have a p3 800 w/XP Pro for at home and a p4 1.6 w/98 at work.

I took a linux class a while back so at home I stay booted into that as much as possible (redhat 7.3).

As soon as the new powerbooks come out I will be switching and leaving my pc in linux all the time. I will totally phase out my home pc when the power4 is released in a desktop and I pick one up.

-jeff

MacAztec
Oct 13, 2002, 08:15 PM
I have used a few PCs. I dont think they are really THAT bad.

Infact, I am thinking about buying a gaming PC for gaming, storing files, and...movies. It will be built by me, and run W2K. It will be a Athlon 2600+, probly a radeon 9700, Soundblaster Gamers Card, DDR RAM, gigabyte mobo, wireless kb/mouse. It will cost about 800 without a monitor. So about 1 thousand for a server/nice ass gaming pc/movie machine

jefhatfield
Oct 13, 2002, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by MacAztec
I have used a few PCs. I dont think they are really THAT bad.

Infact, I am thinking about buying a gaming PC for gaming, storing files, and...movies. It will be built by me, and run W2K. It will be a Athlon 2600+, probly a radeon 9700, Soundblaster Gamers Card, DDR RAM, gigabyte mobo, wireless kb/mouse. It will cost about 800 without a monitor. So about 1 thousand for a server/nice ass gaming pc/movie machine

w2k is great for running corporate stuff and especially microsoft office

and w2k is very stable and beats windows 95, 98, 98se, NT 4.0, and ME for overall stability

but w2k is not a "gaming" operating system per se

actually, you are better off with windows xp since it is more multimedia friendly, more than w2k but game support for xp will take some time

under the surface, xp is a new and improved w2k - and w2k is windows NT 5.0 before ms changed the name to w2k...it took time for ms to make the multimedia unfriendly windows NT 4.0 into the multimedia friendly windows xp

windows xp is the product that has the best of both worlds of a good ms office operating system and a good multimedia operating system (including gaming)

-"jefhatfield" on macrumors
microsoft certified professional

bousozoku
Oct 13, 2002, 08:41 PM
I have assembled, diagnosed, and otherwise taken care of several hundred PCs since the early 1980s. I've had a few at work, none of which worked terribly well. "My" latest is a Dell PIII, 400 MHz with Win2000 Pro, Adobe Acrobat, and ScanSoft OmniPage Pro 11. It breaks daily. Sometimes, it even re-boots when it's in OmniPage Pro. Certainly sounds stable to me. :D

I do like the latest HP machines with Athlon processors and WinXP. They seem to run nicely even though I know they'll break and have trouble. The price is right too. Lots of technology for not much money.

jefhatfield
Oct 13, 2002, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by bousozoku
I have assembled, diagnosed, and otherwise taken care of several hundred PCs since the early 1980s. I've had a few at work, none of which worked terribly well. "My" latest is a Dell PIII, 400 MHz with Win2000 Pro, Adobe Acrobat, and ScanSoft OmniPage Pro 11. It breaks daily. Sometimes, it even re-boots when it's in OmniPage Pro. Certainly sounds stable to me. :D



that's great fodder for a switch commercial:p

shadowfax
Oct 13, 2002, 09:02 PM
originally posted by edvniow
does your grandfather have the latest Red Hat? I heard 8.0 is more if a desktop Linux than anything else out there.

he has 2 computrs he built from scratch, and he keeps his athlon XP 1600+ one with 3 OSes on 3 partitions--1 W2K, 1 stable redhat, and then the latest redhat beta. ever since he got DSL, he downloads every release he can get and puts it on CD. he has Yellow Dog on the off-chance that someone will show up to his linux users' group with a mac. and someone did, too, a few months ago. lol.

anyhow, to respond to this post, i am still lost in the PC world with a decent P3/933MHz/512SDRAM/GeForce3ti200/SB Live! sound card/WinXP pro. i like it with my OS X theme, but i am getting impatient for a new TiBook.

shadowfax
Oct 13, 2002, 09:14 PM
i should add that my computer is pretty much an angel about crashing. i leave it on for more than 2 week stretches, and nothing ever goes wrong, even with all the beta software i have running.

not a good switcher ad candidate!

vniow
Oct 13, 2002, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
i should add that my computer is pretty much an angel about crashing. i leave it on for more than 2 week stretches, and nothing ever goes wrong, even with all the beta software i have running.

not a good switcher ad candidate!


Yeah, me too.
People are amazed when I tell them that my PC has only crashed when I installed RealOne.
I've left it on for weeks without any problems. (gets a bit hot though ;))

SilvorX
Oct 13, 2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by edvniow



Yeah, me too.
People are amazed when I tell them that my PC has only crashed when I installed RealOne.
I've left it on for weeks without any problems. (gets a bit hot though ;))
i cant stand realone, way too slow for me, i use wmp9 for music n stuff :(, but then again back when wmp8 was out, i was only using winamp lol...

vniow
Oct 13, 2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by SilvorX

i cant stand realone, way too slow for me, i use wmp9 for music n stuff :(, but then again back when wmp8 was out, i was only using winamp lol...

You're using WMP9?:eek:
j/kng, it's actually a pretty cool program, but after I read some of the little things that MS didn't tell you about it, I refused to install it again.
RealOne was a well-designed program from a functional point of view, if it was a bit faster and crashed my PC less, I would have kept it, but the designers didn't put a whole lot of thought into making it work right. :rolleyes:

shadowfax
Oct 14, 2002, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by edvniow
People are amazed when I tell them that my PC has only crashed when I installed RealOne.
I've left it on for weeks without any problems. (gets a bit hot though )

ah, i have a dell box hidden between my bed and the wall... it runs amazingly cool, which is why i never turn it off. and the fan is quiet enough for me to sleep with it 2 feet from my head. dell makes awesome boxes, from a technical standpoint. not pretty, but i never see the box, so i don't whine. but my 17 inch trinitron monitor is a bitch. it heats my room up like nothing else, lol....

irmongoose
Oct 14, 2002, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by edvniow
I tried out Mandrake 8.2 and had mixed feelings about it.
I liked some of the features but getting everything to work required coding skill which is alien language to me.
I'm glad I did it though, now I keep up on the latest Linux news.
I'm waiting for it to become a bit more usr friendly before I try it out again.

Does your grandfather have the latest Red Hat? I heard 8.0 is more if a desktop Linux than anything else out there.:)


I suggest you try Debian. My freind, who is both a Linux and OS X freak, had Mandrake as his main OS for a while, but he said that after he discovered Debian, he realized that Mandrake was worse than crap. He also said that the major ones, like Red Hat, were just filled with a bunch of crap, and once you take it all away, it's just a barebones shi**y system.




irmongoose

irmongoose
Oct 14, 2002, 04:09 AM
Sorry, double post

losfp
Oct 14, 2002, 05:52 AM
I got a couple of PCs ;-)

1.2Ghz Athlon, 768MB RAM, 80+40GB HDDs, dual 19" monitors

http://users.bigpond.net.au/des/photos/pooter.jpg

:D Nice machine. Noisy as a sackful of harley davidsons amplified through a marshall stack. Driving me nuts. Has been a bit buggy on ocassion, but you can put it down to the slightly skittish video drivers and the buttload of betas and rubbish that I install (ie: a crash a month on average, which is not bad considering how much I push it)

Also, my faithful IBM ThinkPad 600E - 366Mhz, 290MB RAM. Solid as a rock and tres reliable. Went about 30 days of continuous uptime before I had to reboot after installing some software.

I have nothing against PCs and I like using them. Why the fascination with Macs then? (which I have gotten only in the last 6 months). Apple probably have the best designers in the universe. The OS intrigues me. I've been a mac basher in the past, but I figure I can't have a valid opinion until I use both platforms thoroughly can I?

Heck, I better buy a PowerBook then :D

Hopefully I can afford one by the next revision.

3777
Oct 14, 2002, 12:26 PM
I have an Alienware Aurora for all my gaming needs.......and I love it.........

diorio
Oct 14, 2002, 02:24 PM
I have had several PC's. A CTX, and now some computer my dad bought from his work for $50. Works pretty nice, but makes some weird noises.:D

sturm375
Oct 14, 2002, 04:03 PM
I own 2 Desktop PC which I built.

1) Dual Athlon MP 1600+ w/ win2k+SuSE Linux 8.0
(Need to play more with Linux)

2) AMD Athlon XP 2100+ w/WinXP Pro.


Both are rock solid, the only time I've ever had trouble with them, was due to some [explitive] spyware/virus.

I use my Dual for most of my work/internet play, and while I'm at work, it crunches numbers for SETI

Neither one has ever had a hard crash.

My TiPB on the otherhand has experianced more that one hard crash. And is the only computer I've ever owned that required being sent back to the manufacture for repair. The firewire decided not to work a few months back. 1 week total time was all it took, Apple replaced the logic board.

Chaszmyr
Oct 14, 2002, 04:17 PM
I own a very nice PC (Dual 1.67ghz Athlon MPs), but since i got my new PowerMac i never use it lol

solvs
Oct 14, 2002, 04:51 PM
Many computers, WinTel and Apple (notice I didn't say Mac ;)), but I built a new PC for a couple of hundred bucks to tide me over until I can afford a really nice Mac. 1.3 Duron, 120 GB HD, 256 MB Ram, 32 MB VC, Win2000 (hacked, natch :p). After having it running perfectly for awhile, it suddenly died.

I figured out that it was a bad CPU (good thing I sprang for the Retail version for an extra $6). Didn't even OC it. Sending it back to AMD, well see what happens. It was noisy and hot with the stock stuff, so I bought some extra, quieter fans. It died before I could attach the much cooler, much quieter CPU fan and heatsink (only $19).

That's the first thing I'm doing when AMD sends me a new CPU.

Luckily I had an old 400 Celeron HP laying around and hadn't yet given (well, sold) it to my friend. She hasn't paid me yet anyway. She said she can wait. She's still got an old 333 K-6 Acer (shudder), and her Uncle has an old 90 MHz Gateway. That's right, you heard correct. 90 MHz Gateway.

(Shudder).

MacBandit
Oct 14, 2002, 05:04 PM
I've never owned a PC but I have owned all sorts of computers other then Apples.

I have to use PCs daily at work. Also I help diagnose friends pcs regularly so I have a pretty good handle on how they work or don't.

King Cobra
Oct 14, 2002, 05:14 PM
There is an old PC stored away downstairs no one uses. It has to be around 7 years old I guess.

Other than that, I don't remember if there's ever been a PC in the house.

I gotta use them at class for some stuff. But I refuse to work with a Pc for more than 30 minutes. So I type/print the stuff on a PC and use a Mac to finish the project.

solvs
Oct 14, 2002, 06:39 PM
I guess the point being, most of us Mac users have also used Windows. That's probably why we like Apple so much. If only the reverse were true.

I'm meant WinTel users trying Macs, not using Windows because they don't like Apple's OS.

How many Apple-Bashers and naysayers have used a current Apple product?

Then again, how many Mac-Zealots have used a WinTel lately?

Either way, M$ sux hose water.

MacBandit
Oct 14, 2002, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by solvs
Either way, M$ sux hose water.
Hot summer septic drain hose water.:D

shadowfax
Oct 14, 2002, 08:33 PM
and they spit it out all over you with end user license agreements that let their employees rape your children, for all you know

bousozoku
Oct 14, 2002, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield


that's great fodder for a switch commercial:p

Fodder? He's at home with my mudder. What they got to do with any of this?

(Maybe it's that his iMac is dead again!)

I found it funny that they showed the PC/Networking guy in a switch ad--that was always my story. "I fix these !@#$ things all day. When I go home, I just want it to work." :D