Top $$ movies of all time, Finding Nemo!

[mcarnes]

I found the list interesting:

http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide

Finding Nemo is #9! How much of that does Steve get? Anyone know? What percent of Pixar does he own?

[emw]

Interesting - here (http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-highest-grossing-films) is a site that includes a list adjusted for inflation. Of course, I don't know if ticket prices keep up with or exceed inflation, so it may not be the best indicator, but it's probably a little better.

On the adjusted list, Star Wars is #2 after Gone With the Wind. Finding Nemo is #61.

As for how much Steve gets, I have no idea. But I'm sure he's not hurting...

[iGary]

Titanic: $1,845,034,188

Almost two billion?

With a freaking "b?

[tech4all]

Interesting list there. Thanks for posting that.

[Mr. Anderson]

Titanic: $1,845,034,188

Almost two billion?

With a freaking "b?

Everytime I see a list like that and see Titanic at the top I just cringe and try and figure out why.....

but there is no logical explanation....

D

[mcarnes]

Everytime I see a list like that and see Titanic at the top I just cringe and try and figure out why.....

but there is no logical explanation....

D

I was a projectionist when that movie came out. I've done that job off and on for fun since I was 18. Let me tell you, from about the third month to the eighth month it was 95% teen age girls lined up to see that movie. They saw it over and over and over. The print was a wreck by the time it finally left our theater (not to mention it was interlocked for the first couple month).

That movie tapped into the "Mary-Kate and Ashley" crowd as we came to call them. Leonardo is who they came to see...

[superbovine]

Titanic: $1,845,034,188

Almost two billion?

With a freaking "b?

No kidding, I was forced to watch that movie and thinking "would you sink already." Gives new meaning to "I'm king of the world."

[mad jew]

Titanic was amazing!




On second thought, that was Spiderman... Meh...

It's hard to see what movie is the highest grossing of all time because of the inflation factor and the fact that there's no single good way of measuring this. As time goes by, movies get cheaper relative to other forms of entertainment such as theatre because of the competition and advances in technology. More people are likely to see movies on a regular basis if they are cheaper. Also, the higher population of today generally makes for fuller cinemas and higher earnings.

In other words, it's too difficult to compare old with new when it comes to movie earnings.

[emw]

Titanic: $1,845,034,188

Almost two billion?

With a freaking "b?Yeah, turns out the US theater gross was just the tip of the iceberg.

[Xtremehkr]

Steve bought Pixar from George Lucas. Pixar is now the most successful movie studio of all time, a perfect 5 for 5 record. Steve and George are similar in ways.

[Abstract]

Some parts of that inflation list don't make sense. How did ROTK (edit: Sorry non-nerds, I meant Lord of the Rings: Return of the King :o ) make less money than Shrek 2 on that list? Was inflation THAT high in 2004 compared to 2003? :confused:

[Artful Dodger]

It's really hard to say what movie(s) make the most since when I went to see The Matrix Reloaded the ticket price was $7.00 at the top theater in the area. Now when I went to see Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last week that same theater price was $8.50 but is that price diff. really inflation? I think they should just go by the #'s and not $$'s since big cities charge way more than your average towns, cities in the same states. But that said all that money is really just a part of a larger picture---DVD rentals and so on...

[AliensAreFuzzy]

Some parts of that inflation list don't make sense. How did ROTK (edit: Sorry non-nerds, I meant Lord of the Rings: Return of the King :o ) make less money than Shrek 2 on that list? Was inflation THAT high in 2004 compared to 2003? :confused:
Didn't you know?! There was a 26% inflation from 2003 to 2004.

[Lacero]

If you adjust for inflation, GWTW would take top spot as the biggest money maker of all time. Titanic has the most of any modern day movie, but I think ROTS has a chance to come close, but it'll definitely surpass TPM.

[Lacero]

Didn't you know?! There was a 26% inflation from 2003 to 2004.Inflation doubles every ten years. On average at least. What causes inflation? I know, but does anyone else know?

[mcarnes]

Inflation doubles every ten years. On average at least. What causes inflation? I know, but does anyone else know?


Hot air?

[virividox]

i hate titanic...not that it was a bad movie (it was), but because i had to watch like so many times...ugh THE HORROR

[Abstract]

Instead of adjusting for inflation, can they adjust for average movie ticket prices?

Or better yet, just use the number of people who bought a ticket.

[mad jew]

Instead of adjusting for inflation, can they adjust for average movie ticket prices?

Or better yet, just use the number of people who bought a ticket.


But you've still got issues with population size and the relative expense of a ticket. Fifty years ago, a movie was much more of a luxury so of course not nearly as many people went.

[mcarnes]

But you've still got issues with population size and the relative expense of a ticket. Fifty years ago, a movie was much more of a luxury so of course not nearly as many people went.


But also fewer people are going to cinema now then they did 15-20 years ago because of DVD. Unless it is something they really want to see, they just wait for the DVD.

Too many factors, so it just goes back to gross earnings.

[mad jew]

Too many factors, so it just goes back to gross earnings.


Exactly, but then we're back to where we started - an unfair tool for measurement. :(

[iGary]

I found the list interesting:

http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide

Finding Nemo is #9! How much of that does Steve get? Anyone know? What percent of Pixar does he own?

Steve bought Pixar from Lucas for $10 million dollars after an original asking price of $30 million. The hitch is, Jobs has to share any software developments and technology with Lucas for life.

I believe he owns 60%, although I'll have to check into iCon, the book I have been recommending, to be sure.

[MongoTheGeek]

Steve bought Pixar from Lucas for $10 million dollars after an original asking price of $30 million. The hitch is, Jobs has to share any software developments and technology with Lucas for life.

I believe he owns 60%, although I'll have to check into iCon, the book I have been recommending, to be sure.

Figure of the 800M half went to the theaters. Of that half, half went to Disney for promotion and distribution. Of Pixar's 200 Million they probably spent 50 making the think. Leaving Steve getting 60% of 150M or about 90M. Most of that money is just increased value of Pixar since I don't believe it currently has a dividend.

[SiliconAddict]

Everytime I see a list like that and see Titanic at the top I just cringe and try and figure out why.....

but there is no logical explanation....

D


I still think it’s ridiculous that Titanic is still #1. Actually as much as it pains me to say this I don’t expect to ever see anything take it down as #1. Why? Simple.
The studios rush to get a movie out on video ASAP as soon as sales fall. So take Revenge of the Sith? There is talk of a 11/05 release for the movie on DVD. Anyone who doesn’t want to see it in the theatre simply has to wait 6 months. Titanic was still in the VHS tape era. I think it was close to a YEAR before Titanic came out on VHS. DVD’s hadn’t taken off.
They had the perfect storm for taking the #1 spot. The advertised the crap out of it, they had a movie that catered to adults, and love struck teenaged girls who got hot thinking about Leeeeeeo, they had a big name behind the lens, they released it right where there wasn’t anything major coming out, and then they rerelease it again in the winter when NOTHING was out, oh and did I mention they had an insanely large marketing blitz?
It was an OK movie but it sure as HELL didn't deserve the #1 spot.

[Lacero]

Titanic spent 13 weeks at number 1 at the box office. That's pretty unreal. A lot of it was repeat business. There was a news report one old lady attending the screening every day for like 3 months. You may not like it, but the story does touch a woman's heart in a way we'll never fully understand. I think it found the formula to make $600 million in North America alone.

[SiliconAddict]

but the story does touch a woman's heart in a way we'll never fully understand.

Dude I have more then my fair share of friends who are women and speaking as a man who is perfectly comfortable in my masculinity (Yah a like girls.) and I can tell you that most of what appealed to women was Leo. Yes. There is something romantic about a doomed love. Yes there is something noble about upper class falling in love with lower class in a forbidden love. (That all sounds familiar doesn’t it?) Yes there is something cool about having that story weaved into a disaster flick that really happened, but in NO way should it have amounted to more then a #10 in the grand scheme of things. Talk to the average person that went to see the movie over and over and over and over. It wasn’t a mature adult. It was your teenage girl that thought it was dreamy see Leo on the big screen dieing for his love. Bet money most of them were fantasizing that they were Kate Winslet through that entire movie esp a certain scene in the backseat of a car.

[kiwi-in-uk]

Interesting - here (http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-highest-grossing-films) is a site that includes a list adjusted for inflation. ...

Had a look through that inflation-adjusted list. I've seen all but three (The Bells of St Mary's; The Passion of the Christ; The Best Years of Our Lives). Are those three worth seeing?

Interesting that only one silent movie made it to the top 100 - The Four Horsemen of The Apocolypse - it was a ripper but I thought some others might have got in there as well.

[Lacero]

And as adjusted for inflation.

Top grossing films (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm)

Of note: Gone With the Wind made about $200 million in 1939's currency!

[Applespider]

You may not like it, but the story does touch a woman's heart in a way we'll never fully understand.

Please don't tar all women's hearts with the same brush. My girlfriends and I all thought it was the biggest pile of horse manure out. I recall us seeing it on one friend's birthday who liked Leo :rolleyes: before retiring to a restaurant for a boozy dinner where we all (including the Leo fan) ripped it to shreds...

I think tickets sold rather than revenue would be a better indication of a film's success in the cinema. That's how we treat music albums/sports events/TV ratings after all. Count DVDs/videos as copies too rather than cash. You'll end up with two figures (cinema views/home copies) for a movie but at least, they don't have to be altered for inflation.

[Lacero]

My girlfriends and I all thought it was the biggest pile of horse manure out.I bet you're all single too.

[Applespider]

I bet you're all single too.

Nope :eek:

[Mr. Anderson]

I think tickets sold rather than revenue would be a better indication of a film's success in the cinema. That's how we treat music albums/sports events/TV ratings after all. Count DVDs/videos as copies too rather than cash. You'll end up with two figures (cinema views/home copies) for a movie but at least, they don't have to be altered for inflation.


Ooh, that would be such a good way to rate the movies... its really too bad the data isn't available on that, yet if they can come up with the gross, its got to be hidden in there somewhere...

D

[topgunn]

Every feature length movie by Pixar is in the non-adjusted top 100.

Toy Story (1995) : 84
A Bug's Life (1998) : 86
Toy Story 2 (1999) : 39
Monsters, Inc. (2001) : 32
Finding Nemo (2003) : 9
The Incredibles (2004) : 23

Not bad. And this doesn't even factor in DVD sales and rentals which Disney and Pixar always do well in.

Compare this with Shark Tale at 124 and ANTZ which isn't on the list at all.

Here is a quote I read in Forbes:
DreamWorks Animation's financial performance has been erratic. In 2003, the company lost $187.2 million on revenue of $301 million; in 2002, it lost $25.1 million on revenue of $434.3 million; and in 2001, the company earned $2.3 million on revenue of $661.1 million. The accumulated deficit is about $200.7 million.

[topgunn]

As an aside, A Bug's Life is still my favorite Pixar movie. It had a great cast and the animation was spectacular, even seven years later. That and I am a big Dave Foley fan from his Kids in the Hall days as well as News Radio.

[mcarnes]

I admit that I liked Titanic when I first saw it. But that was about a week before it opened, doing a test screen by myself at 2:30 AM. I had no idea how big it would be at the time, and didn't see much advertising for it other than a few trailers here and there (I didn't have a TV at the time). To me it was just another movie I had to watch and remember thinking it was pretty good.

After it became so big I started to dislike it. It's strange how that happens. The same thing happened with the iPod. I thought it was so cool about 3 years ago and would not shut up about it. Now I see the damn thing everywhere, in the hands of people who don't even know Apple makes computers. Little kids love the thing, which is an entirely different crowd from 3 years ago. It was moslty adult mac heads that had them back then.

[Lloyd1994]

Whoa! Waterworld is on the list at 179. It made 255 mil. I bet it still didn't make a profit, though. I bet number 189 has made more off of DVD sales than it got in the theaters.

"Yeah! What if he shot me in the head?"

Wow, I can't believe its been 11 years since that came out.

[aloofman]

Whoa! Waterworld is on the list at 179. It made 255 mil. I bet it still didn't make a profit, though. I bet number 189 has made more off of DVD sales than it got in the theaters.

"Yeah! What if he shot me in the head?"

Wow, I can't believe its been 11 years since that came out.

Waterworld didn't lose money. It only seemed like a bomb because it cost an insane amount to make. Thanks to the non-U.S. box office, it barely broke even by the end of its theatrical release. Add in TV, cable, and video sales, and it turned a profit. People remember Waterworld as a bomb, but it really wasn't. It was just a movie that had to be a blockbuster to not totally fail. For that reason, it's a milestone in movie history.

Incidentally, Titanic had similarly ridiculous cost overruns and many people in the industry thought it might be the next Waterworld; that it would need to make huge amounts of money just to break even. But since it took in crazy-huge revenue, it's now forgotten what a boondoggle it seemed on the eve of its release. Jaws had studio execs concerned too, before it became a box-office phenomenon.