Quicktime 7.0.1 Released [Archive]

MacRumors

May 31, 2005, 03:34 PM

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Now available via Software Update for QuickTime 7.0 users:
QuickTime 7.0.1 provides several important bug fixes, a security enhancement, and improved compatibility with Final Cut Studio. This update is recommended for all QuickTime 7 users. For detailed information on the security enhancement, please visit this website:

http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798 (http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798
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Important Notice to QuickTime Pro Users
Installation of QuickTime 7 will disable the QuickTime Pro functionality in prior versions of QuickTime, such as QuickTime 5 or QuickTime 6. If you proceed with this installation, you must purchase a new QuickTime 7 Pro key to regain QuickTime Pro functionality. After installation, visit www.apple.com/quicktime to purchase a QuickTime 7 Pro key.

iMetalG5

May 31, 2005, 03:37 PM

If I have QT 7 Pro now... and download update I should still be good right? thanks for clarification.

notjustjay

May 31, 2005, 03:38 PM

varmit

May 31, 2005, 03:40 PM

Downloaded and installed, now going to ifilm.com to see if my problems have been fixed. Also, I see that when I clicked on a movie trailer in the content browser that came up when I restarted, The Davinci Code was the movie, it opened iTunes to see the trailer. Then when I clicked on Large, it took up the whole screen, with play, exit button, banner bar and the full screen qt movie. Hmmmmm. and my ifilm.com problems not solved. Still a Q with a white ? mark.

biohazard6969

May 31, 2005, 03:40 PM

it is really stupid that they would have such a policy, don't many other companies offer free updates? i know for limewire pro its like 3 free updates or something like that

millhouse

May 31, 2005, 03:46 PM

this is all nice and good, but i'd really like to see it out for windows!

Object-X

May 31, 2005, 03:49 PM

Hope it's faster.

MacsAre1

May 31, 2005, 03:50 PM

I would have had it downloaded sooner if not for Software Update's continual refusal to install software if I select "Download Only." :( Installed now, and I don't notice any problems yet. Although I didn't notice any problems before, either.

Freg3000

May 31, 2005, 03:56 PM

this is all nice and good, but i'd really like to see it out for windows!

Yes me too. I really would like it to be out as soon as possible so I can start distributing h264 content to all my friends.

Brize

May 31, 2005, 04:00 PM

What is it with the two Help menus in QT7? A minor annoyance I know, but I thought they'd have rectified that in 7.0.1. Seems not.

Windowlicker

May 31, 2005, 04:00 PM

it is really stupid that they would have such a policy, don't many other companies offer free updates? i know for limewire pro its like 3 free updates or something like that

Well, you most likely have more than three free updates on QuickTime too.
But, I still think you should get the pro license when purchasing Tiger since Panther users can have the same app too. That's a bit unfair in my point of view.

Daveway

May 31, 2005, 04:00 PM

There goes my 20 day uptime :D

I find it horrible that I'm still getting "Q"s with question marks. What's the point of having an iFilms widget if Quicktime doesn't work with it. :mad:

jsw

May 31, 2005, 04:01 PM

You know, I really find it annoying how I'm supposed to re-purchase a new QT Pro key every time they release updates.

I know, I know, you have to pay for major upgrades for any software package, but ... this really should have come with Tiger.
I think the better thing to have done would have been to enable the features which can be easily and legally hacked - like full screen mode (hackable via AppleScript) - standard and make the Pro version really just those features useful mainly to the prosumer market.

animefan_1

May 31, 2005, 04:05 PM

it is really stupid that they would have such a policy, don't many other companies offer free updates? i know for limewire pro its like 3 free updates or something like that

Of course this statement totally disregards the fact that it has been almost three years since QT 6 was released (and you didn't have to repurchase an QT Pro update between the initial 6.0 release up to the most recent 6.5.2 update).

Also, while there are a bunch of companies who do free updates, there are also a bunch that don't: Microsoft, Adobe, Avid, Symantec, Intuit and Apple (of course).

Yes, there are upgrade paths for programs like FCP, Office and Photoshop, but $29 isn't too much for an upgrade.

Just because Apple (or anyone else) may be able to give software (updates) away for free doesn't mean they have to.

animefan_1

May 31, 2005, 04:07 PM

What is it with the two Help menus in QT7? A minor annoyance I know, but I thought they'd have rectified that in 7.0.1. Seems not.

Do you have DivX installed? I think that's a bug with DivX 5.2.1 and QT 7.

confirmed

May 31, 2005, 04:08 PM

What is it with the two Help menus in QT7? A minor annoyance I know, but I thought they'd have rectified that in 7.0.1. Seems not.

this is actually a bug with the Divx plug-in.. if you remove that, the second help menu goes away. there are actually a couple other bugs that Divx causes.. problems with minimizing quicktime movies, as well as the curser not hiding in some full-screen games.

currently i'm using MPlayer for Divx content until an updated Quicktime plug-in is released.

Brize

May 31, 2005, 04:09 PM

Do you have DivX installed? I think that's a bug with DivX 5.2.1 and QT 7.

Yep, I do have DivX installed. That explains things -- many thanks.

Doctor Q

May 31, 2005, 04:14 PM

If I have QT 7 Pro now... and download update I should still be good right? thanks for clarification.You know, I really find it annoying how I'm supposed to re-purchase a new QT Pro key every time they release updates.

I know, I know, you have to pay for major upgrades for any software package, but ... this really should have come with Tiger.Just to clarify, the update from QuickTime 7.0 to QuickTime 7.0.1 does not affect QuickTime Pro, but updating from QuickTime 6.0 or earlier to QuickTime 7.0 or later does disable the QuickTime Pro features until/unless you buy a new QuickTime Pro key.

Yvan256

May 31, 2005, 04:15 PM

Yes, there are upgrade paths for programs like FCP, Office and Photoshop, but $29 isn't too much for an upgrade.

Problem is, QTPro doesn't have any "upgrade" pricing. You get QTPro for 29$US, and that's it. If you want to upgrade later on, it's still 29$US. There's no "upgrade price" like 9.99$ or even 19.99$.

Sure, 29$US isn't expensive for what QTPro can do, but I still believe the regular QT should at LEAST have the "full-screen" option. It's completely stupid to make regular folks pay 29$US to play movies in full-screen.

(FYI: I paid my QTPro license for the export options, not the full-screen playback capability.)

asif786

May 31, 2005, 04:16 PM

this is all nice and good, but i'd really like to see it out for windows!

exactly, how do they expect h.264 to take off if they haven't even released quicktime for windows?

it's kinda nuts imho. i'm sure it's not that difficult to do. something tells me they're being difficult on purpose.

ebally

May 31, 2005, 04:16 PM

This is getting silly now... I was hoping the this update would fix the question mark problem I was having with IGN QuickTime movies, but no such luck. Maybe things will be better with QuickTime 7.0.2?

Apple

May 31, 2005, 04:19 PM

Very Poor Update... It did not fix any of the problems I am having, like the question marks :mad: :confused:

mileslong

May 31, 2005, 04:22 PM

guys i had quicktime pro 7 and i did the update today and it was free. i didnt have to pay anything else for the update to 7.1

javiercr

May 31, 2005, 04:23 PM

For what i read in the apple site this is only a security update, however it's 26Mb, which must pretty much replace the entire program!

also the Pro update only referst to version pre 7, you don't have to pay to update from 7 pro to 7.0.1 pro!

dstorey

May 31, 2005, 04:23 PM

exactly, how do they expect h.264 to take off if they haven't even released quicktime for windows?

it's kinda nuts imho. i'm sure it's not that difficult to do. something tells me they're being difficult on purpose.

Have you not thought of the fact that Quicktime is a big piece of software,and they can't just wave a magic wand and make a windows version appear. For QT7 on OS X they rewrote Quicktime player in cocoa, using QtKit. I believe they also rewrote the quicktime api to simplify it for developers and make it work in a more cocoa way. last time I checked cocoa doesn't exist on Windows, so the port to windows is not just a simple recompile.

min_t

May 31, 2005, 04:27 PM

I think the ? issue in quicktime is a Safari browser issue and not quicktime. QT7 in firefox works fine for embedded video.

Upgraded from QT7 to 7.0.1 does not require another payment of $29. Only if you are upgrading ver. 6x or earlier.

MattG

May 31, 2005, 04:30 PM

Still no fix for the problem with Quicktime windows coming up with a white, empty space, or for Safari rendering the .PNG files that link to Quicktime videos incorrectly.

cwedl

May 31, 2005, 05:18 PM

this is actually a bug with the Divx plug-in.. if you remove that, the second help menu goes away. there are actually a couple other bugs that Divx causes.. problems with minimizing quicktime movies, as well as the curser not hiding in some full-screen games.

currently i'm using MPlayer for Divx content until an updated Quicktime plug-in is released.
It says on their website: Please note: DivX is not supported on Mac OS X 10.4. We are working to resolve the issues and appreciate your patience.

It works fine in quicktime, the two help menus don't bother me because I am always in full screen.

reckless_0001

May 31, 2005, 05:20 PM

Well ifilm.com & IGN still not working... Works in Camino though.. Probably have to wait until the 10.4.2 update for this one even though it was an issue before 10.4.1... :p

wdlove

May 31, 2005, 05:27 PM

Apple again really quick on the draw with its updates. Too bad that they haven't fixed all the bugs yet.

zv470

May 31, 2005, 05:52 PM

Why would Apple offer a free upgrade from Quicktime Pro 6 to 7? Do other companies do that? Adobe-Macromedia, Microsoft?

no.

so the people who payed for QT6 Pro... and who're whining :P please stop

I bought Pro 7... and I'm not going to whine when 8 comes out.

BUT... if Apple charged for QT 7.0.1 update... i would be really pissed off hehe :D

DPazdanISU

May 31, 2005, 06:06 PM

c'mon lets all whine about no news on WWDC. I didn't get a new PM so why should I be quiet? :rolleyes:

James Philp

May 31, 2005, 06:30 PM

I just wanted to say that this thread was started 20 minutes or so after this one (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=129552), that was quickly closed down by a MOD.
I find this very un-community like and can't understand why.
I feel sorry for Windowlicker who posted the original thread, and even took the time to post important information. :(
What was wrong with his thread, may I ask?

nagromme

May 31, 2005, 06:39 PM

exactly, how do they expect h.264 to take off if they haven't even released quicktime for windows?

I'm GLAD they didn't delay the Panther QT 7, and delay Tiger itself (which is always QT 7), just for the sake of releasing simultaneously with Windows.

Plus it's only fair since MS releases new WMP versions late for us :)

As for h.264... taking off is in no doubt: it's part of all the next-gen DVD standards,

skopcho

May 31, 2005, 06:39 PM

I wonder if they're holding out on the windows version because of how much processing power HD video requires. It sure would look bad if a windows laptop could playback HD video better than a top-of-the-line powerbook. It will also provide a direct comparison between the processor power needed to run WMV HD vs. QT HD.

aafuss1

May 31, 2005, 06:54 PM

exactly, how do they expect h.264 to take off if they haven't even released quicktime for windows?

it's kinda nuts imho. i'm sure it's not that difficult to do. something tells me they're being difficult on purpose.

I agree-perhaps they've have not released yet because iTunes for Windows also bundles QT and they would have to update the iTunes for Windows download with 7.0.

GregA

May 31, 2005, 07:08 PM

Why would Apple offer a free upgrade from Quicktime Pro 6 to 7? Do other companies do that? Adobe-Macromedia, Microsoft?

no.Actually take a look at what they DO offer. Most companies offer an upgrade for people who bought their previous product - with QT Pro, Apple does NOT.

In fact, I bought QT Pro 5 a few days before QT Pro 6 was released. To get QT Pro 6 I had to pay the full price again.

edit: And no I'm no longer complaining. But if you put up a comment that asks people not to complain, but that doesn't acknowledge the reality of the situation, you'll get a reply.

Freg3000

May 31, 2005, 07:19 PM

Perhaps Apple would distribute QuickTime 7 and iTunes 5 together to maximize distribution of both.

Sounds like a plan. :)

skopcho

May 31, 2005, 07:24 PM

Perhaps Apple would distribute QuickTime 7 and iTunes 5 together to maximize distribution of both.

Sounds like a plan. :)

Which would play into the whole 'year of HD', iTunes Movie Store deal. But surely they'd want to test the windows version out in the wild before they opened their movie download app, no?

Applespider

May 31, 2005, 07:28 PM

In fact, I bought QT Pro 5 a few days before QT Pro 6 was released. To get QT Pro 6 I had to pay the full price again.

Now that I can understand being annoyed about. I do think that if you upgraded within the last 3 months, then you should get a discount off the next Quicktime. If you bought QT6 3 years ago, then it's probably fair enough that you fork out again.

I considered upgrading to QTPro in Jan this year but knew the likely situation with QT7 so waited for Tiger.

SPUY767

May 31, 2005, 07:55 PM

Problem is, QTPro doesn't have any "upgrade" pricing. You get QTPro for 29$US, and that's it. If you want to upgrade later on, it's still 29$US. There's no "upgrade price" like 9.99$ or even 19.99$.

Sure, 29$US isn't expensive for what QTPro can do, but I still believe the regular QT should at LEAST have the "full-screen" option. It's completely stupid to make regular folks pay 29$US to play movies in full-screen.

(FYI: I paid my QTPro license for the export options, not the full-screen playback capability.)

:Cough: iTunes 4.8 :Cough:

asif786

May 31, 2005, 07:55 PM

Have you not thought of the fact that Quicktime is a big piece of software,and they can't just wave a magic wand and make a windows version appear. For QT7 on OS X they rewrote Quicktime player in cocoa, using QtKit. I believe they also rewrote the quicktime api to simplify it for developers and make it work in a more cocoa way. last time I checked cocoa doesn't exist on Windows, so the port to windows is not just a simple recompile.

uhm, well apple's a major corporation, so i have no sympathy with them. it's not like we're talking about a poor student here who can't port their software over to another platform. they have billions of dollars at their disposal. they can snatch the best programmers from anywhere they want. they just couldn't be bothered - and that's not good enough for apple.

let's not compare apple to ms/wmp. we all know that's a lost cause. they dont need to worry about getting wmp onto the mac/linux because it's a small percentage.

what i dont understand is how apple can be shouting from the rooftops about this new h.264 tech when it's only applicable for 2% of the worlds computers..i run a streaming server - how about i use h.264 and save on bandwidth? uh..wait..i cant - because apple says qt7 windows is 'coming soon'.

for gods sake apple, if you're going to compete in a cross-platform market, at least make sure you have concurrent releases.

aafuss1, there's been an itunes update after the qt7 release, so i dont think it's a distribution issue.

James Philp

May 31, 2005, 08:02 PM

t300

May 31, 2005, 08:27 PM

Still doesn't fix my problem of bringing back up a suspended movie window. Have to bring it up from the window, still.

phawksworth

May 31, 2005, 09:16 PM

Why would Apple offer a free upgrade from Quicktime Pro 6 to 7? Do other companies do that? Adobe-Macromedia, Microsoft?

no.

so the people who payed for QT6 Pro... and who're whining :P please stop

I bought Pro 7... and I'm not going to whine when 8 comes out.

That's a fair comment, and we do always see similar gripes about paying for upgrades, but I didn't choose to upgrade QT. I bought a new operating system. If I had then lost functionality in other apps that I had purchased for use on Panther I would not have been impressed. Photoshop, Dreamweaver and FCExpr2 still work. (Thank goodness!)

(Granted, I was excited to get h.264 abilities, but I feel I have lost something that I had before upgrading the OS)

James Philp

May 31, 2005, 09:26 PM

(Granted, I was excited to get h.264 abilities, but I feel I have lost something that I had before upgrading the OS)
I had moved QT to a folder within the Applications folder, and it was still there after the upgrade. Unfortunately, the 6.5.2 player still uses the QT 7 stuff.

deebster

May 31, 2005, 10:12 PM

I would have had it downloaded sooner if not for Software Update's continual refusal to install software if I select "Download Only." :(

'Download only' vs 'Download and install'. what do you think the difference might be? ;)

gorkonapple

May 31, 2005, 10:22 PM

I downloaded a MPEG clip in the browser and no matter if my sound is MUTED or jacked all the way up, the video ALWAYS is LOUD. I have to change it real qiuick before my eardrums get blasted and then I load another clip and it's LOUD again. Did NOT notice this in QT 7 only in 7.0.1. Quicktime is IGNORING my mixer settings.

azhelkov

May 31, 2005, 10:57 PM

Update fixed "Show movie properties" crash in my case. I don't know was it isolated problem or common case. I reported it back to Aplle couple weeks ago.
Alexander

reorx

Jun 1, 2005, 12:14 AM

what i dont understand is how apple can be shouting from the rooftops about this new h.264 tech when it's only applicable for 2% of the worlds computers..i run a streaming server - how about i use h.264 and save on bandwidth? uh..wait..i cant - because apple says qt7 windows is 'coming soon'.

As far as I know, h.264 is just a pre-ratified standard from the same people who brought you MPEG 1 2 and 4, and thus William H. Gates III can implement the codec for Windows if he cared to. Of course, he's shooting for a new Windows Mediocre Player format for HD content. Of course, that will work on the 40-50% of the windows computers in the world capable for actually keeping up with full-frame HD content. Market share is a piss-poor indicator of anything useful: I have 1 mac and 4 fully-legit XP machines at home right now. Of those 4 machines, only one is > 1GHz P4. Tell me that my 433 Celeron laptop is "legitimately counted" of market share - it won't even stream web content over wireless because its too cpu intensive.

Sorry for the rant... I'm tired of hearing about the "market-share" silliness.

BobVB

Jun 1, 2005, 01:06 AM

Actually take a look at what they DO offer. Most companies offer an upgrade for people who bought their previous product - with QT Pro, Apple does NOT.

In fact, I bought QT Pro 5 a few days before QT Pro 6 was released. To get QT Pro 6 I had to pay the full price again.

edit: And no I'm no longer complaining. But if you put up a comment that asks people not to complain, but that doesn't acknowledge the reality of the situation, you'll get a reply.

Now wasn't part of the original 'licensing' fee because they have to pay the MPEG Consortium on every copy that can encode their codecs? If they gave out fully encoding capable software in every OS it would amount to a huge chunk of change in licensing fees? By making people buy a medium priced license they not only get revenue but can report a much lower number of encoders and pay a much smaller amount. At least that was a reasonable speculation at the initial charging - don't know if its still a reasonable excuse or is it they just figure we are used to the fee by now?

MontyZ

Jun 1, 2005, 03:29 AM

It's an awfully large file for a security update, and for an update that doesn't even fix any of the problems we're having with QT. I installed it, rebooted, and have noticed nothing different. I guess that's a good thing.

wrldwzrd89

Jun 1, 2005, 06:20 AM

Something locked up good when I tried to restart after installing QT 7.01. Held down the power button and did a manual restart - after that, all was normal again.

Mac_Freak

Jun 1, 2005, 06:59 AM

After the update to 7.0.1, iTunes now playes videos a lot smoother, almost instantly. Also the full screen mode is more responsive :)
I haven't got a chance to test it out more but so far it is a nice update.

jdechko

Jun 1, 2005, 08:33 AM

Now wasn't part of the original 'licensing' fee because they have to pay the MPEG Consortium on every copy that can encode their codecs? If they gave out fully encoding capable software in every OS it would amount to a huge chunk of change in licensing fees? By making people buy a medium priced license they not only get revenue but can report a much lower number of encoders and pay a much smaller amount. At least that was a reasonable speculation at the initial charging - don't know if its still a reasonable excuse or is it they just figure we are used to the fee by now?

This is probably true, but the Pro Version of QT7 only does MPEG-4 Video. There is actually a separate plug-in/upgrade for MPEG-2 Content listed on the Apple Store page, which is $19.99 USD.

MattG

Jun 1, 2005, 08:49 AM

I installed this update on my PowerMac, restarted, and now I can't log in.

When the login screen used to come up, it used to show the pictures. You'd click on the picture for the person you wanted to log in as, then it would ask for a password. Now, it's just a blank space for user name and blank space for password. It does not accept my logon credentials. I even booted up with the Mac OS X Install disc and changed the password, and I still can't log in.

:mad:

Gasu E.

Jun 1, 2005, 10:40 AM

As far as I know, h.264 is just a pre-ratified standard from the same people who brought you MPEG 1 2 and 4, and thus William H. Gates III can implement the codec for Windows if he cared to. Of course, he's shooting for a new Windows Mediocre Player format for HD content. Of course, that will work on the 40-50% of the windows computers in the world capable for actually keeping up with full-frame HD content. Market share is a piss-poor indicator of anything useful: I have 1 mac and 4 fully-legit XP machines at home right now. Of those 4 machines, only one is > 1GHz P4. Tell me that my 433 Celeron laptop is "legitimately counted" of market share - it won't even stream web content over wireless because its too cpu intensive.

Sorry for the rant... I'm tired of hearing about the "market-share" silliness.

"Market share" counts new sales over a recent period, not installed base of systems actually being used.

BobVB

Jun 1, 2005, 02:07 PM

This is probably true, but the Pro Version of QT7 only does MPEG-4 Video. There is actually a separate plug-in/upgrade for MPEG-2 Content listed on the Apple Store page, which is $19.99 USD.

And if there are seperate licensing fees for both that reduces their amount paid the consortium even more.

I'm sure we both agree there is a 'desire for increase revenues' by Apple in the equation but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an even greater calculation for 'decreased expenditures' too. I mean its not like they make any effort at all to make sure each encoding license is only used on one machine...

LenVegas

Jun 1, 2005, 11:37 PM

FIX FOR ANYONE HAVING SAFARI "?" BUG:

Hi, I registered just to help out anyone else having this problem. I was having the "question mark bug" until Googling turned this up:

FROM: http://acm.cwru.edu/pipermail/sigmac-talk/2005-May/001634.html

"The solution, however, is pretty simple...
(Credit to: http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?14@755.zRgUaIiDRmC.
10 at .68a45f50.68ad2224.68adc062)

1. Exit Safari

2. Navigate to the [Hard Drive Name]\Library\Internet Plug-Ins folder

3. Remove the "QuickTime Plugin.webplugin" file

4. Restart Safari

Everything seems to work without that file... Not sure why, but if
you're having the problem, this ought to take care of it."

AND - Yes the 2 'Help' menus go away if you un-install the DivX Quicktime plug-in. So, these two bugs, at least, have simple fixes.

cheers

zv470

Jun 2, 2005, 03:24 AM

Actually take a look at what they DO offer. Most companies offer an upgrade for people who bought their previous product - with QT Pro, Apple does NOT.

In fact, I bought QT Pro 5 a few days before QT Pro 6 was released. To get QT Pro 6 I had to pay the full price again.

edit: And no I'm no longer complaining. But if you put up a comment that asks people not to complain, but that doesn't acknowledge the reality of the situation, you'll get a reply.

Hmm... true, I guess they could offer an upgrade at cheaper cost... but I think its fair that they charge something. I could afford it eventhough I'm on a low income. :o

Anyway... QT Pro... is dirt cheap, and if someone is too scroogie... they can always find a reg code for free somewhere... for those who want to steal from Apple. :rolleyes:

swheeler

Jun 2, 2005, 03:46 AM

Anyway... QT Pro... is dirt cheap, and if someone is too scroogie... they can always find a reg code for free somewhere... for those who want to steal from Apple. :rolleyes:
I, umm, know someone who didn't really mind stealing QTPro after giving Apple very large amounts of money for his second high end powermac.

byokitis

Jun 2, 2005, 09:55 AM

What is it with the two Help menus in QT7? A minor annoyance I know, but I thought they'd have rectified that in 7.0.1. Seems not.

I have no idea what your talking about.

MacTruck

Jun 2, 2005, 10:04 AM

wrldwzrd89

Jun 2, 2005, 12:43 PM

I have no idea what your talking about.
It's a DivX plugin bug. If you don't have the DivX plugin for QuickTime, you'll never see it (I don't have the plugin).

swissmann

Jun 2, 2005, 01:31 PM

Hope it's faster.

Especially on the H.264 front.

asterizk

Jun 2, 2005, 02:19 PM

Of course this statement totally disregards the fact that it has been almost three years since QT 6 was released (and you didn't have to repurchase an QT Pro update between the initial 6.0 release up to the most recent 6.5.2 update).

The new codecs are of course nice-to-have. The main problem I have is when I have to re-pay for functionality I already had. The reason I paid for Quicktime 4, and 5, and 6, was that I wanted to be able to play movies in full screen. Now I have to pay for that same functionality again. Really, the full-screen functionality should be part of the free player -- it is with the free versions of the other Mac media players (Real, WMP).

asterizk

Jun 2, 2005, 02:58 PM

The new codecs are of course nice-to-have. The main problem I have is when I have to re-pay for functionality I already had. The reason I paid for Quicktime 4, and 5, and 6, was that I wanted to be able to play movies in full screen. Now I have to pay for that same functionality again. Really, the full-screen functionality should be part of the free player -- it is with the free versions of the other Mac media players (Real, WMP).

Oooh... well, I take that back. Guess I haven't been paying attention -- just discovered you can play videos in fullscreen via iTunes (though you have to clutter your iTunes library with video if you want to do it)...

SiliconAddict

Jun 2, 2005, 05:17 PM

Which would play into the whole 'year of HD', iTunes Movie Store deal. But surely they'd want to test the windows version out in the wild before they opened their movie download app, no?

Hmmm Jobs did say at "D: All Things Digital" conference that a new iTunes would be out "within about 60 days". Maybe this is a bigger release of iTunes then anyone expected? All the other iApps got a major update at MW in January. God knows a number of us were bumbed out that all we got was a sad little update. Could we see iTunes 5.0 at WWDC? :eek:

VanNess

Jun 2, 2005, 08:11 PM

FIX FOR ANYONE HAVING SAFARI "?" BUG:

Everything seems to work without that file... Not sure why, but if
you're having the problem, this ought to take care of it."

AND - Yes the 2 'Help' menus go away if you un-install the DivX Quicktime plug-in. So, these two bugs, at least, have simple fixes.

cheers

Thanks for the fix. I always wondered why the Quicktime plugin info was duplicated twice when viewing the "Installed Plug-ins" window (from the help menu). Removing that plugin resolved that and quicktime plugin failures with Safari on some sites.

I've been less than thrilled with the QT 7 update so far. I like alot of the new features and layout, but unfortunately, once again there is a little "gotcha" for QT 7 Pro users. The video adjustment controls (tint, sharpness, brightness, etc) which were always a feature of previous versions of QT Pro have been quietly removed for QT 7 Pro users who don't have core graphics capable GPU's. Not a word about it on the minimum system requirements for QT Pro on Apple's Quicktime Pro download pages. You find out about it after you purchase and go digging into Apple's tech notes for an answer. I can understand that with H264, you would probably need some significant horsepower to render such controls in HD, but this is the throw-the-baby out-with-the-bathwater solution. How hard could it have been to engineer a fallback path for non-HD content on machines that previously supported those controls on QT 6? Or, if they don't want to do the fallback option, how about at least a little footnote on the QT web page that identifies the graphics card requirement for those controls? Finding out about this stuff the hard way - after the fact - isn't going to endear Apple to it's customers, especially upgraders.

I have to admit that I always trusted Apple when updating/upgrading my stuff, and any surprises along the way have almost always been good ones. But with Tiger and QT 7, there seems to be a almost wholesale shift towards core image technologies. That would be fine if some kind of fallback path existed for Macs that don't have the latest high end video cards (Macs that are less than 2 years old fall into this category) so entire sets of previous features don't go missing. And Apple originally sounded as if Tiger core image would optimize itself on the fly for the hardware present on Tiger compatible machines, but its looking more and more like that "optimization" really means: check to see of core image capable card exists - if yes :) , proceed, if no :mad: , stop and remove feature/effect. I don't think anyone is going to buy a new GPU or Mac just to see the dashboard ripple effect or color adjustment controls in QT Pro, but i do think this kind of stuff will piss people off, especially when Apple makes no effort to clearly identify the hardware requirements for specific features that have been anchored to core image/graphics card technologies.

Nice effects, really nice effects. But don't forget your customers.

Sorry if I got a little off topic for this thread.

Mac_Freak

Jun 2, 2005, 08:43 PM