Powerbook This Week [Archive]

impierced

Oct 21, 2002, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Jeffx342
Just doesn't seem to be a big update, c'mon 32mgs THATS A JOKE

even the Compaq Latop has a readeon mobility 9000 w/64mgs!!

Have to agree, I've been waiting for a new PowerBook G4 to replace my older PowerBook, but even the last update wasn't worth my money. If this is true then I'll be waiting another 6 months...

yellowcab

Oct 21, 2002, 04:13 PM

it's stil a dream, a PB 1GHz.

It won't be next week

but will the busspeed 166?

i believe that it will be 01-2003

vollspacken

Oct 21, 2002, 04:22 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Megaquad
[B]>Specs include Radeon 9000 with 32MB of Video RAM. 933-1GHz

...if they only put 32MB video Ram in, they will lose all credibility that is left.

PUT IN 64 MB VIDEO RAM
HIGHER BUS SPEED

I won't waste my hard earned money on one of those, I rather wait for a speed-bumped 13" WS iBook

Stelliform

Oct 21, 2002, 04:38 PM

Just to add fuel to the fire...

Small Dog is down to 2 new Powerbooks in stock... all of the other powerbook models are marked with a status of 7 to 10 days.

http://www.smalldog.com/category/X/X/Powerbooks+Ibooks/G3+Powerbook/G4+Powerbook/Powerbook+Acc/wag102/wag10002/

JSRockit

Oct 21, 2002, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Megaquad
>Specs include Radeon 9000 with 32MB of Video RAM. 933-1GHz

Damn..if this is true oh pleaasee god dont let this be true i want 64 mb vram in my next mac for few years

I thought the Radeon 9000 is only 64mb of VRAM. Coupled with that 7.4" laptop speculation...I would think this info is false.

JSRockit

Oct 21, 2002, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by impierced

Have to agree, I've been waiting for a new PowerBook G4 to replace my older PowerBook, but even the last update wasn't worth my money. If this is true then I'll be waiting another 6 months...

I can't see Apple using anything but the new Radeon 9000 in there next Powerbook revision. It is the only laptop card that should be used at this point. Compaq was one of the first...if not the first. It will be in all other high end PC laptops soon... Apple doesn't have a choice really.

Over Achiever

Oct 21, 2002, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by JSRockit

I thought the Radeon 9000 is only 64mb of VRAM. Coupled with that 7.4" laptop speculation...I would think this info is false.

Um, Radeon 9000 comes in 32 MB and 64 MB. And you posted the 7.4" stuff on the wrong thread :rolleyes: :p

MrMacMan

Oct 21, 2002, 08:34 PM

Um... again it would be a Huge supprise if they released a upgraded powerbook.

jefhatfield

Oct 21, 2002, 08:51 PM

cool looking, but looks more like a new design ibook

powerbook will have the superdrive, right? :)

Durandal7

Oct 21, 2002, 08:55 PM

I will be surprised of new PBs come before MWSF. The Apple Store shows 3-5 day shipping and has this promo going:
Power Couple Promo: From October 11, 2002, through December 31, 2002, get up to $400 back via mail-in rebate when you purchase a qualifying PowerBook computer along with a 17-inch, 22-inch, or 23-inch Apple flat-panel display.

jefhatfield

Oct 21, 2002, 08:56 PM

macworld sf seems to be good platorm for new powerbook, which will be upped stats and maybe cheaper $

Spock

Oct 21, 2002, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by jefhatfield
will be upped stats and maybe cheaper $

Hahahahahahaha RiGhT!!! and I'm Steve Job's.

redAPPLE

Oct 22, 2002, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Spock

Hahahahahahaha RiGhT!!! and I'm Steve Job's.

hi STEVE!

i am redAPPLE :)

yellowcab

Oct 22, 2002, 12:03 PM

so the dream will last one knight and tomorow you'll awake like.......

UnixMac

Oct 22, 2002, 02:33 PM

So help me, if I don't get ATI 9000 with 64MB DDR, I'm gonna go buy a PC! (ok, maybe nothing quite that extreme).

I would hope the next up update also has faster bus.

TheFink

Oct 22, 2002, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by WanaPBnow
So help me, if I don't get ATI 9000 with 64MB DDR, I'm gonna go buy a PC! (ok, maybe nothing quite that extreme).

I would hope the next up update also has faster bus.

If you get a PC, go the Radeon 9700 route. :)

tjwett

Oct 22, 2002, 03:27 PM

if that mini powerbook thing were real the pics would have been yanked long ago. kewl looking though.

UnixMac

Oct 22, 2002, 03:39 PM

some guy on the MacNN site is saying tomorrow..........hope he's right, he sure stuck his neck out though.

technocoy

Oct 22, 2002, 05:19 PM

but if you read all the post he is retarded, he keeps quoting these unlimited sources, and yet he seems to be a college student or something, how could he have 4 or five dependable apple sources?? He also said that they are releasing G4 iBooks along with the powerbooks... c'mon, dude is on crack. no way in hell there will be a g4 iBook AND powerbook unless the powerbook was dual (and we know that aint happening)

technocoy

technocoy

Oct 22, 2002, 05:22 PM

if he's right i'll offer my deepest apologies for calling him a bloody CRACK HEAD,
and i'll send him fifty bucks as well..... I'm waiting.....

JSRockit

Oct 22, 2002, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by WanaPBnow
So help me, if I don't get ATI 9000 with 64MB DDR, I'm gonna go buy a PC!

There are only a few PC Notebooks with 64MB VRAM...and even fewer with the new mobility radeon 9000...and they are tanks. So have fun. I am waiting for a PC the size of an iBook to have the Radeon 9000 before I buy.

impierced

Oct 22, 2002, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by technocoy
but if you read all the post he is retarded, he keeps quoting these unlimited sources, and yet he seems to be a college student or something, how could he have 4 or five dependable apple sources?? He also said that they are releasing G4 iBooks along with the powerbooks... c'mon, dude is on crack. no way in hell there will be a g4 iBook AND powerbook unless the powerbook was dual (and we know that aint happening)

technocoy

Let me clarify a few things regarding seanyepez at MacNN forums:

1. He initially quoted two independent sources and said he wouldn't have come forward unless they both provided him with the same information, which they apparently did. Then said a third backed up the previous two. Not 4 or 5.
2. He is actually 14 or 15 years old and not in college.
3. He has his email address in his sig file so he's really going to take a beating if he isn't correct at least on an announcement.

For the record I'm extremely skeptical, but until tomorrow rolls around nobody knows what's going to be announced, if anything.

Contradicting sean, someone else in the forum is saying an announcement will be comming the first week of November and the iBook will remain with a G3 processor and the PowerBook G4 will in have a Superdrive but none will have Bluetooth on the motherboard.

soilchmst

Oct 23, 2002, 12:39 AM

I heard Ingram Micro is down to less than 800 (667mhz) and 300 (800mhz) powerbooks. If this is correct, then maybe new models are in route (since Ingram is a major Apple vendor) :D

Unfortunately, there was a whole port strike crisis on the west coast, and maybe these low inventories are due to backups and not due a pending End of Life change :rolleyes:

anthonymoody

Oct 23, 2002, 08:46 AM

And here, wednesday morning on the east coast, most of the mac rumor type sites are pretty quiet...maybe before the storm?
TM

UnixMac

Oct 23, 2002, 09:10 AM

7 AM Pacific, and still no change.... When do they normally effect these changes?

TopGear

Oct 23, 2002, 09:57 AM

Depends on what they're timing it for -- 10 or 11 a.m. Pacific Time is a good guess. Press releases for earnings are different: they're usually announced after the markets close. But if they *do* make an announcement, they'll want to get some bang out of it -- more press, more coverage.

Kid Red

Oct 23, 2002, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by arn
http://www.yourdailymac.com

Powerbooks this week? And some specs....

there are a lot of powerbooks still in the channel... so this week seems unlikely.

arn
arn- yourdailymac.com got their info and specs off a thread at macnn by seanyepez. He believes today they will be released if not then real soon. Another poster swore on the first week of Nov.

Stelliform

Oct 23, 2002, 12:36 PM

Well Here we are on Wednesday. No update. No new powerbooks in the channels though. (ala. Clubmac, Smalldog, and Comp USA) But Perhaps that is just Apple making good on reducing inventories.

I read another post somewhere that said Nov. 5th, but I have a feeling we will be seeing those about every 2 weeks until MWSF.

....

vollspacken

Oct 23, 2002, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Stelliform

I read another post somewhere that said Nov. 5th, but I have a feeling we will be seeing those about every 2 weeks until MWSF.

(...) I have to call my Mac buddy almost every day to talk me out of buying one right now. He says wait until mid november. (But then I am only a month and a half from MWSF)

...I hate to say that, but i feel tempted to buy an ThinkPad CTO 2658 R, 'cause I feel played for a sucker by Apple! If they don't want my money, fine...:mad:

I don't think that I'll wait till MWSF, that's rediculous!!!

...getting really angry!!!

SilvorX

Oct 23, 2002, 01:43 PM

if its going to be that 7.4" inch one, it seriously wouldnt be worth $5000 CDN to get...but if its still the widescreen powerbook than it'dd probably be worth it...but hopefully the price drops...but it wont :(

roy_g_biv

Oct 23, 2002, 03:26 PM

everyone keeps saying "mwsf, mwsf, i'm waiting for mwsf," but hasn't just about every source said repeatedly that apple no longer plans to use macworld as a forum for introducing new macs? if apple were smart, they would get new tibooks out for the holiday shopping season. i'm crossing my fingers for nov.

bh192012

Oct 23, 2002, 03:59 PM

I'm waiting for what's next for the iBook. Whatever it is I'm probably going to buy it. I'm not going to buy one of their current iBooks. The sooner Apple releases something, the sooner they'll get their money.

Jeffx342

Oct 23, 2002, 04:42 PM

Damn, wtf is apple taking so long to release the tibook

and it better be WORTH THE WAIT

vixapphire

Oct 23, 2002, 04:43 PM

the more i wait around for these jokers in cupertino to get off their asses and service their market with some woody product, the better a nice, used 7 or 800 meg powermac looks as a one or two year holdover until they've settled on a new line of products with more than a ridiculously minimalist incremental speed bump every half-year or so.

i admit that, while i even enjoy the speed and slickness of my old 450 blue and white g3 (although i really need G4 speed for music production anymore), part of the frustration is the comparatively exuberant clock speeds on the intel cpu's. all benefits of the altivec instruction set aside, what objective reasons remain for the clock-speed gaps? i'm not being an ass, i actually would like an informed, non-opinion-laden, non-flaming answer if anyone cares to enlighten.

additional frustration results from the fact that nowadays, even the intro of a new line of powermacs doesn't result in a huge drop in the old line's pricing, like it did when i bought my g3 (a couple weeks after the g4's hit the streets), so the used market is pretty inflated/resilient/whatever. so i'm a cheap bastard looking for a great deal on a powerful computer - don't hate me for that!

faster, please. bring the freakin' 1 gig powerbook already, dammit.

by the way, i know this is a powerbook thread - my point is that before i spend 3-plus large on one, i'll wait a little longer with a holdover desktop if i have to. ;-)

UnixMac

Oct 23, 2002, 04:57 PM

vix....... I hear ya man. These dudes need to get with it, The PC world is leaps and bounds ahead with their laptops and their $3000 machines smoke the $3200 PB800. I am ready to give Apple as much as $4110 for a laptop with options/more RAM etc... But they just aren't giving me a reason to do so yet! I too may just go and get a second hand Duel 800 or something and a nice 22" used monitor of ebay.

cb911

Oct 23, 2002, 06:23 PM

the new TiBooks will have to be soon, definitely before MWSF.

oh well, the later release of new TiBooks = more time for me to save money = i'll be able to get a better TiBook when they are released!:D

at least i'm not too desprate for new TiBooks.

vollspacken

Oct 23, 2002, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Jeffx342
Damn, wtf is apple taking so long to release the tibook

and it better be WORTH THE WAIT

...EXACTLY!!!
What's the problem Apple??? What are they waiting for??? No one will buy one of their current models (especially not me!)
Get the update out and *zapp* here's my cash!!!

Sherman

Oct 24, 2002, 12:14 AM

Okay, I am sick and tired of these crappy ass laptop specs apple has been throwing at us.

they need a GF4 'Go' 64 and a 166 bus at LEAST.

1Ghz G4. It's possible. ****.

Why doesn't apple just visit all these forums and see what the **** we want? We're the consumers. We're the ones buying this stuff..

shadowfax

Oct 24, 2002, 12:40 AM

what? no gf4. ati's radeon mobility 9000 blows it out of the water. it's the best out there now. i can assure you apple will put that in the powebook if they change it at all.

Chaszmyr

Oct 24, 2002, 02:22 AM

I think Apple had planned on releasing a new powerbook by now, but they saw that Sony got a DVD-R in a laptop, and they are waiting until they can do the same with the powerbook.

cb911

Oct 24, 2002, 03:10 AM

do you mean DVD-RW? because i can read DVD's on my TiBook now...

but lets say it was a DVD-RW Sony got in a laptop? when did they do this? new TiBooks were expected by this week, so if Apple is trying to squeeze a DVD-RW in the TiBooks then i guess that would be an alright excuse for the late release.:)

who thinks they'll do it? personally, i think that Apple will just get the new models out there in November, and the DVD-RW wil come later.:(

hippy

Oct 24, 2002, 06:59 AM

Has anyone else notice the ' character at the top of the powerbook page www.apple.com/powerbook

sure it wasnt there yesterday !

Source

Oct 24, 2002, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by hippy
Has anyone else notice the ' character at the top of the powerbook page www.apple.com/powerbook

sure it wasnt there yesterday !

What is that?

TopGear

Oct 24, 2002, 08:11 AM

According to my cut & paste, it's a

'

which is commonly called an apostrophe. Why is it there? What does it mean? Is it part of some kind of international PowerBook conspiracy? Somebody, call Fox Mulder!:D

gopher

Oct 24, 2002, 08:14 AM

Looks like a minor goof to me. In the source it is before the
DOCTYPE statement and HTML statement. Maybe they were going to change the site, but at the last moment were told not to.
Only Steve knows!

Over Achiever

Oct 24, 2002, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by cb911
do you mean DVD-RW? because i can read DVD's on my TiBook now...

You know, DVD-R doesn't mean that you can read DVDs.:rolleyes:
It means you can burn DVD-Rs....

Anyway, that guy probably did mean DVD-RW anyway. :)

gopher

Oct 24, 2002, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Sherman
Okay, I am sick and tired of these crappy ass laptop specs apple has been throwing at us.

they need a GF4 'Go' 64 and a 166 bus at LEAST.

1Ghz G4. It's possible. ****.

Why doesn't apple just visit all these forums and see what the **** we want? We're the consumers. We're the ones buying this stuff..

Sherman, specs aren't everything. We just want a machine that is able to do lots of good video editing and MPEG3 creation. The Powerbook is quite capable of it. Naturally we'll get tweaks every 6 months to a year, and that's appreciated...it brings down the price of the older machines and gives those who desire a little more speed the ability to get it. If you need it today, go get it, if you can wait a bit, wait a bit. Note of course that beginning January 2003, new machines made then will no longer be able to boot into Mac OS 9, though will have Classic. So if you need 9, get a machine today, and hope for upgrades later. And start saving for Mac OS X application updates.

Over Achiever

Oct 24, 2002, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by gopher
Looks like a minor goof to me. In the source it is before the
DOCTYPE statement and HTML statement. Maybe they were going to change the site, but at the last moment were told not to.
Only Steve knows!

Uh...lemme just say...

OMG!!!

You guys notice the littlest things, huh?:rolleyes:

TopGear

Oct 24, 2002, 09:00 AM

Hey Goph,

Fox Mulder or no, I think you're right. There's no way an apostrophe (or anything else) can get in there unless someone got into the code. WHAT it was going to be changed to is pure speculation. A weather report? An announcement of a 1-GHZ PowerBook? You tell me. My Web pages used to get little Xs and Vs in them, from when I was trying to use a keyboard command to cut or paste. Looks like somebody had a little accident... ;)

UnixMac

Oct 24, 2002, 09:09 AM

Or it cold be Apple messing with all of us, cause they know how attentive we can be to such small modifications????

Anyway, I say don't hold up the show for a DVD-RW, I'll take an improved SuperDrive (faster), and you can add DVD-RW as an option later...

I want the Radeon 9000 64M, and the Faster Bus/Processor. I want DDR for faster Data speeds between my Drive (which btw should be a 5400RPM 60 Gig for the top end machine!)

That's what I want, and I want it NOW!

hippy

Oct 24, 2002, 09:29 AM

Also if you order a PB through the store the 'step 2' page has a space character in the wrong place causeing the nav bar to drop......!

JSRockit

Oct 24, 2002, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by cb911
do you mean DVD-RW? because i can read DVD's on my TiBook now...

but lets say it was a DVD-RW Sony got in a laptop? when did they do this?

You can burn DVDs on Sonys latest Tank laptops...it happened last month.

King Cobra

Oct 24, 2002, 06:34 PM

WanaPBnow, I think gopher is a bigger priority!

>(gopher) We just want a machine that is able to do lots of good video editing and MPEG3 creation. The Powerbook is quite capable of it.

Here's one satire of jumping to conclusions... :rolleyes:

I would expect new Powerbooks between now and late November, but not at or after the Expo. I would also expect GHz speeds, as rumored.

Oh, wait. Now Apple Legal reads and changes their plans. Now who's messing with who? :p :rolleyes:

Disclaimer: This font is supposed to be very small so everyone can read it. I would also encourage those, who have a lot of time to spend, be very careful not to hurt his eyes when staring at this sentence, as there seems to be no end to the rumors on PowerBooks, or this sentence for the matter, at least for a long, long, long,...
:rolleyes:

UnixMac

Oct 24, 2002, 09:04 PM

Where is Montvale NJ? I'm gonna be in Saddle River for a week starting Saturday.... Are there any good Mac stores in that area?

gopher

Oct 24, 2002, 10:23 PM

Saddle River and Montvale NJ are within 2 miles of the Apple retail store at Tice's Corner.

TICE'S CORNER
WOODCLIFF LAKE, NJ 07677
(201) 782-1750

Grokgod

Oct 25, 2002, 12:11 AM

Ok, all of the people that are pissed at Apple's method and speed of delivery.

With new models and CPU speed. I would think that it is evident by now that Apple is having a very serious problem with either...

A: CPU manufacturers
B: Building OSX to work at a decent speed with the current crop of cpu's
C: Still manage to maintain profits with large margins and inflated prices

I din't think that Apple wants to do all these things that irritate and frustrate consumers, its just that they have done SO many stupid things in the past that its hard to straighten out all the mistakes and gets things moving right.

So, prepare yourself for more frustration and bewildering events as Apple continues to catapult themselves into oblivion!

gopher

Oct 25, 2002, 07:22 AM

Egad...another PC troll, what should I do with them?

Apple is not going to oblivion...people have been predicting its demise since the year they began, and Apple has always surprised people. With the numerous Linux users coming over to the Mac, Apple is having a resurgence in software developers for
its platform like it never has seen before. And that's a Good Thing! Because with developers comes new software, and with new software the reasons for leaving the Mac platform become fewer and far between, and with Microsoft's abhorrant licensing schemes, and God awful security, anyone who is mindful of their digital rights is going to come to either Linux or the Mac. With Linux users shifting to the Mac in droves, it is only a matter of time before those who chose Linux first become Mac users.

"The power of unix, the simplicity of the Macintosh."