I need a Job

[G5Unit]

I am 13. I need money. I am really, really good with photoshop and know how to do almost anything(I hope). I know how to do motion graphics with After Effects, even though that might not be the right program. I can tutor anyone how to do solve almost any problem.(I just ask a bunch of questions because I have been with windows soooo long and before I only knew how to do stuff on OS 9 and OS 10.2. So does anyone have suggestions on how I could make money off know how to do a crap load of stuff?

Please don't respond asking why I have acted as if I know nothing on these forums.

[Brother Michael]

Well, if you are good with the graphics programs (more than just photoshop), then you could try getting an internship/job at a small advertising company or at a photography studio that does digital retouching in house.

What are the laws as far as minor labor for your area?

Mike

[tech4all]

I am 13. I need money. I am really, really good with photoshop and know how to do almost anything(I hope). I know how to do motion graphics with After Effects, even though that might not be the right program.

You say you know how to do it - which is good! But do you know to do things effectively? I mean anybody can apply a motion blur, change curves, adjust colors, apply layer styles, etc. But question is, can you use these tools effectively rather than just clicking a few buttons?

But I do admire a 13 year old even knowing Photoshop :)

[Sun Baked]

Well, if you are good with the graphics programs (more than just photoshop), then you could try getting an internship/job at a small advertising company or at a photography studio that does digital retouching in house.

What are the laws as far as minor labor for your area?

MikeThat's probably going to be a sticky point in most areas -- except for people working in the family businesses.

Of course you'll probably need a parental permission slip. :oWhen school is not in session, minors 14 and 15 may work up to 8 hours per day and a maximum 40 hours per week. When school is in session these minors may work up to 3 hours on a school day, 8 hours on a nonschool day, up to a maximum of 18 hours weekly, but all hours must be outside school hours. The spread of hours is the same as for minors ages 12 and 13. Parent permission is not required.

[G5Unit]

Here are a couple things I have made:
http://img246.echo.cx/img246/480/cover6kj.th.jpg (http://img246.echo.cx/my.php?image=cover6kj.jpg)
http://img246.echo.cx/img246/3592/extraipod4hg.th.jpg (http://img246.echo.cx/my.php?image=extraipod4hg.jpg)
http://img246.echo.cx/img246/8144/cover14wc.th.jpg (http://img246.echo.cx/my.php?image=cover14wc.jpg)
I have also made 3 movies which pretty cool. One is History of the Newspaper, NewsCast from the Past, and Mad Mooves(First one ever)

[Balin64]

You know... I believe you must be at least 14 years old to be employed. I grew up in the same area of CA... here's an idea for you: go down to Encinitas: get your parents to drive you there. Buy some bulk flowers: roses, gypsophelia, ferns,... then get some rubber bands and a roll of cellophane wrap. Put together some bouquets, get a bucket, and find a a nice neighborhood shopping mall and set up shop! You may be surprised hou much dough you can make.

When I was your age I wanted a Wilson Pro Staff and a Mac Color Classic so bad... but my Mums had a small business and could not fork over the cash. So, she suggested I start my own little business venture selling flowers and after a few months I had the money to get the Mac, and a month later the dough to get the tennis raquet.

Anyway... just my thoughts!

[katie ta achoo]

You know... I believe you must be at least 14 years old ....


I thought the magical employment age was 16... If so, I missed out on 2 summers of cash!

[puckhead193]

Here are a couple things I have made:

I like your stuff, it seems your very talented.

[wordmunger]

I think you could swing this if you were technically working for your parents. So your customers would pay your parents, and they'd pay you. That would be legal.

I'd suggest going around to local businesses, showing them some examples of your work, then offering to do flyers, brochures, or Web pages for them.

[e²Studios]

I thought the magical employment age was 16... If so, I missed out on 2 summers of cash!

California youth labor laws are a bit confusing, but he would fall in to this category untill he turns 14

Twelve is the minimum age that minors may be:

• Issued a Permit to Work by school authorities [EC 49111].

• Employed in household occupations or as a personal attendant if issued a Permit to Work [EC 49111]. This should not be construed to apply to irregular employment as a babysitter or other personal attendant duties or to irregular yard or housework since those occupations, when pursued on a casual, irregular basis, are considered exempt from permit requirements [18 Ops. Cal. Atty. Gen. 114 (1951)]. Since most domestic service is not considered part of the child labor provisions of the FLSA, the federal minimum age of 14 for permitted occupations does not apply to domestic service [29 CFR 552.108]. (See Chapter 7 of this Digest.)

• Employed or permitted to work in or in connection with the occupation of selling or distributing newspapers, magazines, periodicals, or circulars [LC 1298]. Newscarriers are exempt from the FLSA [29 USC 213].

Once he turns 14 this applies

Fourteen is the minimum age that minors may be:

• Employed in occupations permitted in Subpart C of Title 29 of the Code of Federal Regulation and adopted by inclusion by the state of California in Labor Code Section 1294.1(a)(2). These occupations are listed in Chapter 7 of this digest. No minor under 14 may be employed in firms subject to the federal Fair Labor Standards Act unless the employment is exempt as specified in Chapter 12 of this digest.
• Employed during the regular school year, but only before or after school [EC 49112] (For exceptions see Chapter 5 of this digest.)
• Enrolled in a Work Experience Education program [EC 49113].

All this was taken from here
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/ChildLaborPamphlet2000.html#27

Looks like you would need your school to sign off that you could work, and the hours you could work would be limited. Looks like 14 is the magic number in California, but even then the hours are regulated and there are still restrictions on where and what you can do until you turn 18.

Good Luck to ya!

Ed

[killuminati]

I'm 14 and this is what I did too make some extra money. I started doing it when I was about 12. I made slideshows for peoples events. For example I did them for weddings, birthdays, anniversaries, company gathering thing, bar/bat mitzvahs. It's pretty good money for that age, you get about $350 per slideshow.

So it may not be the most creative thing, to utilize your talents, but it is good money.

[iSaint]

babysitting - I did that at a young age and did very well with it. Never babies though. Use your talents to make brochures or flyers.

You could advertise in the paper for computer help. Private classes for older users, or families. Help set up new computers for families. Think along those lines. Use your talents to make brochures or flyers.

Make yourself a brochure of your work and get out and walk through the doors of potential employers! I always thought of places I thought would be cool to work, and then dressed myself appropriately and walked in the door and asked if they were hiring. You'd be surprised what a little initiative and politeness will get you.

[tech4all]

http://img246.echo.cx/img246/3592/extraipod4hg.th.jpg

Is that a photo of an iPod photo or did you go into Photoshop and make it yourself?

I'm 14 and this is what I did too make some extra money. I started doing it when I was about 12. I made slideshows for peoples events. For example I did them for weddings, birthdays, anniversaries, company gathering thing, bar/bat mitzvahs. It's pretty good money for that age, you get about $350 per slideshow.

So it may not be the most creative thing, to utilize your talents, but it is good money.

That sounds pretty cool! :cool: Did you include music with the slideshow?

[G5Unit]

I sort of took the iPod from a tutorial. But that was just for the dimensions and stuff. $350! Wow that's a lot for me. I caould do anything with that kind of money. Anyone know how I could get started?

[killuminati]

Is that a photo of an iPod photo or did you go into Photoshop and make it yourself?



That sounds pretty cool! :cool: Did you include music with the slideshow?

Yea, they would often give me some music requests that I would put it, or if not I would browse through some iMixs to find stuff.

[Abstract]

Hmmm.....I don't think I could ever pay someone $350 to make a slideshow. :o

mean anybody can apply a motion blur, change curves, adjust colors, apply layer styles, etc.


Um....... :(

[killuminati]

Hmmm.....I don't think I could ever pay someone $350 to make a slideshow. :o


Actually I found out that 350 is a fairly reasonable price. Some of the other people who do slideshows charge upwards of 500 for one, and theirs are no better than mine. That person who charges 500 does very well and I'm sure I could easily charge that much and get away with it, but I would feel like I'm ripping people off. I think the reason people are willing to pay so much is that they don't realize how easy it is to make.

[tech4all]

Yea, they would often give me some music requests that I would put it, or if not I would browse through some iMixs to find stuff.

How would you produce the slideshows? PowerPoint? Keynote? And have the music on a speaker system?

[killuminati]

How would you produce the slideshows? PowerPoint? Keynote? And have the music on a speaker system?

I did the slideshows in iMovie, and then I would burn them onto a DVD and just hook a DVD player up to a projector and up to speakers. It was actually very easy.

[eva01]

if you need a job badly you could always work at a restaurant.

but what 13 year old needs money o_O.

[killuminati]

but what 13 year old needs money

HAHA!

Right.

[tech4all]

I did the slideshows in iMovie, and then I would burn them onto a DVD and just hook a DVD player up to a projector and up to speakers. It was actually very easy.

Cool, sounds fun!

You can import photos into iMovie (not too familiar with iMovie and iDVD)? Then use iDVD to make the DVD? Is there a reason why you didn't embed the sound into iMovie?

[eva01]

what? I didn't need money at 13, i had my nintendo, i had my TV and football. I didn't even have a need for a computer when i was 13.

But damn once i turned 14 i was working two jobs a summer.

[G5Unit]

I can make slideshows. My dad owns a company called APEX(Not the TV company) and he is paying me $45 to make a letterhead for him. Maybe I could make powerpoints because he create a lot of those. I have a work permit from him and everything is filled out. Besides my dad, any buiness I could target?

[killuminati]

I didn't really do it by making slideshows.

I made it all in iMovie then I just exported it as an MPEG 2 so that it plays like a video. I also did all of my DVDs in DSP instead of iDVD.

I find that you have much greater flexibility having the slideshow as a video then done as a slideshow. The only downside is that in iMovie you have to drag a transition between each picture.

[G5Unit]

but what 13 year old needs money o_O.
I need money because I haave a plan on what I need to buy in order to make money of the things I buy and so on. I can't make any money of my After Effects because it is the educational version. Same with photoshop, and all the other programs I have.

[tech4all]

I didn't really do it by making slideshows.

I made it all in iMovie then I just exported it as an MPEG 2 so that it plays like a video. I also did all of my DVDs in DSP instead of iDVD.

I find that you have much greater flexibility having the slideshow as a video then done as a slideshow. The only downside is that in iMovie you have to drag a transition between each picture.

I'll have to experiment with that. I'm doing something like that now and want to find the most effective way to do it.

Thanks!

[G5Unit]

I did make a slideshow for my school and I didn't get paid, although I don't think they are allowed to. Also made the cover for an 8th grade awards assembly and a winter band performence. That movie that I made, the history movie, I submitted it to a history day contest which some of you may know about. Anyways I made it through the 1st and 2nd round, but then they said there wasn't enough information in my movie and I could not go on. So it kinda sucks and if people didn't like my movie, maybe people wont like my slideshows or flyers.

[tech4all]

I did make a slideshow for my school and I didn't get paid, although I don't think they are allowed to. Also made the cover for an 8th grade awards assembly and a winter band performence. That movie that I made, the history movie, I submitted it to a history day contest which some of you may know about. Anyways I made it through the 1st and 2nd round, but then they said there wasn't enough information in my movie and I could not go on. So it kinda sucks and if people didn't like my movie, maybe people wont like my slideshows or flyers.

You won't know till you try! :) If you know where your weakness are, improve on them. It's like the old saying goes, you learn by your mistakes.

You said you made some sort of cover for an 8th grade awards assembly and a winter band performance? What was about? Sounds like it a movie according to your post, but I'm not sure.

Just try your best each time and be open to suggestions and different perspectives from other people on your work.

:)

[G5Unit]

Sorry they were the programs for them both.

[tech4all]

I didn't really do it by making slideshows.

I made it all in iMovie then I just exported it as an MPEG 2 so that it plays like a video. I also did all of my DVDs in DSP instead of iDVD.

I find that you have much greater flexibility having the slideshow as a video then done as a slideshow. The only downside is that in iMovie you have to drag a transition between each picture.

killuminati (or anyone else),

I have two questions for you regarding slideshows and iMovie:

1) Do you export for MPEG 2 via File > Share, then select QuickTime? (Or appropriate format)

2) How do you increase/decrease the number of frames/time a photo is on the screen? I'm not sure if you're familiar with Flash, but there you can just click and drag the item on the timeline to the appropriate number of frames. Is there anyway to do that in iMovie?

[killuminati]

Well,

1) You go to File>Export>Expert Settings>Mpeg 2

In that menu you can select if you want to export the audio as well or you can export the audio separately.

2) The easiest thing to do is to put all of you photos into an iPhoto album. Then in iMovie choose photos and navigate to that album. The just select all of the pictures choose the appropriate amount of time that you want them on the screen then just drag them over.

I don't think that you can work well with frames in iMovie. The timeline just uses seconds.


PS: G5Unit, Sorry for hijacking your thread about your job.

[G5Unit]

It's ok. I am Learning HAHAHA! I think I will try and ask a few chaps if I can do some nice little things for them.

[tech4all]

Alright thanks for the info killuminati! :)

G5Unit, yea sorry this is your thread. If I have any more questions about this, I'll probably just make my own thread ;)

[tdbaws]

That movie that I made, the history movie, I submitted it to a history day contest which some of you may know about. Anyways I made it through the 1st and 2nd round, but then they said there wasn't enough information in my movie and I could not go on.

yes, i just got done working this competition today for the History Channel. I wouldn't get discouraged about it, you are in fact only 13, there's so many years left to win the $5,000 college thing. get in contact with some people that could give u some advice for years to come. research and imformation is a big deal, so you can't blow it off. How good is your schools communication/video dept? Not good at all? If not, well why don't you help improve that. Focus more on improving your knowledge on the industry and having fun with your friends. There's still years to come where you can actually get fully paid for your knowledge. You can do free-lance work easily.

[G5Unit]

yes, i just got done working this competition today for the History Channel. I wouldn't get discouraged about it, you are in fact only 13, there's so many years left to win the $5,000 college thing. get in contact with some people that could give u some advice for years to come. research and imformation is a big deal, so you can't blow it off. How good is your schools communication/video dept? Not good at all? If not, well why don't you help improve that. Focus more on improving your knowledge on the industry and having fun with your friends. There's still years to come where you can actually get fully paid for your knowledge. You can do free-lance work easily.
You won 5,000 dollars!?!

[tdbaws]

You won 5,000 dollars!?!

no i was working the competition(tv crew), but the winners did.