Apple 15" LCD No Longer Available

[MacRumors]

Apple's 15" LCD Screen is no longer available from Apple's online store (http://store.apple.com).

We reported last week (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/10/20021013221828.shtml) that the 15" LCD Screen and the 15" LCD iMac were close to being discontinued. It appears that at least the 15" LCD Screen is no longer available directly from Apple. And the 15" LCD iMac has seen a recent $100 price drop to a price of $1199 at the Apple Store. This likely reflects clearance of current stock as new models are readied.

Previous rumors of upcoming LCD screens are summarized here (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020929234735.shtml).

[rice_web]

first post

Anyway...

Perfect timing. I just got $1200 in the mail, and I'll be able to make an iMac purchase in the coming weeks (though I'll hold out until the iMac situation plays itself out)

[e-coli]

bring on the 19 incher!

now, if only i could get my monitor to go bad, too.

;)

[e-coli]

Originally posted by rice_web
first post

i think that's the most shameless self promotion i've ever seen on this board.

i like your style.

:p

[MacAztec]

Drop the 17in to 799 or 749, bring a 19in to 999, the 22in to 1799 ir 1999, and the 23in to 2999!

[edenwaith]

Well, good morning, Sunshine! I noticed the disappearance of the 15" display about a week ago. If the 17" gets reduced down to the same price as the old 15", then I'm definitely going to get one. I didn't think that the 17" would actually offer that much greater space, especially with the odd, dimensions, but after comparing it to a 15" iMac, I did see that it is very much larger in width. Sweet. :) However, if the 17" only goes down by a few hundred dollars, and not below the sub-600 range, then I just might have to seek out a 15" somewhere before they go extinct.

[G4scott]

I'd say expect something on Thursday... It's the 24th, and we all know that special things sometimes happen on the the 24th...

Now I can get a 17" studio display to match my 'windtunnel' :D

[Spock]

Did I miss somthing?? the 15in. is on the Applestore website right now.

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by Spock
Did I miss somthing?? the 15in. is on the Applestore website right now.

Yeah, I think you might have missed the context. We're talking about the 15" LCD Studio Display, not the 15" LCD iMac... and the 15" LCD Studio Display is most definitely not on the Apple Store web site anymore (and hasn't been for several days, I'm surprised it wasn't noted here before now).

MacAztec, your predicted price difference between the 17" and the 19" would be too close. For an extra $200 you'd get a 19"? I predict the 17" will drop maybe to $799-899 and the 19" will debut at $1099-1199.

[voyagerd]

I think that he means the 15in display in the Hardware info section. It is still there, but you can no longer buy one at the store. Yay, we still have info on a discontinued item. I guess they will update their displays page when they intoduce the new one(s). :D

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by voyagerd
I think that he means the 15in display in the Hardware info section. It is still there, but you can no longer buy one at the store.

He said he saw it in the Apple Store. And as the article clearly says it's no longer available in the Apple Store, that's the only option I could think of...

[Kid Red]

Wondering about them introing a 19" and dropping the 22". Why have a 22" and a 23" display? it will probably be 17", 19" and 23" pretty soon.

[encro]

If the 15" LCD is ditched then can the 17" fit in a U-rack? Would you have to hack the plastic off the case to squeeze it in???

Despite it being too small as a desktop monitor it was still ideal for use with a server. Or maybe I am missing the point and I should just use a green screen CRT
:(

[scem0]

I would rather apple just keep the sizes they have now, and just drop prices. That is one of the worst things about apple, actually - it is the worst, their overpricing... :mad: :mad: :mad:

:rolleyes: :D

[Telomar]

LCD prices are about to take a serious nose-dive as more and more companies bring on their new plants and the market waits for demand to catch back up.

More interesting in my eyes is the quality of the new LCDs due to make a show. They are really great quality and a lot of the old excuses for CRTs will disappear.

Originally posted by encro
If the 15" LCD is ditched then can the 17" fit in a U-rack? Would you have to hack the plastic off the case to squeeze it in???

Despite it being too small as a desktop monitor it was still ideal for use with a server. Or maybe I am missing the point and I should just use a green screen CRT
:( Just control the server remotely. Unless you actually need to physically adjust something on the server you rarely need to even look at it. If you absolutely must an old dying CRT will generally do the job. Servers don't need nice screens :p

[j763]

Originally posted by MacAztec
Drop the 17in to 799 or 749

...or just sell everything for free :rolleyes: :p

[richard5mith]

I'm really tempted by the low prices of the iMac right now, it's so cheap. But I'm also interested to see what they do with the prices once the 15" disappears.

I do agree with the other poster here that I would like to see the prices just drop, instead of models just disappearing. £999 is a nice entry point price for the iMac in the UK, dropping the model completely and making people pay the extra £200 or £300 (whatever it is) for the 17" isn't the thing to do.

Maybe I'll look at the reconditioned prices tomorrow.

[drone139]

Originally posted by Kid Red
Wondering about them introing a 19" and dropping the 22". Why have a 22" and a 23" display? it will probably be 17", 19" and 23" pretty soon.


Not so sure...The big difference between the 22" and 23" is that the 23" is HiDef. That's why there is 1000 dollar difference. They will probably all drop in price....then I can get the 22'' ...yeah!

[GPTurismo]

I hate that apple is dropping the 15 inch completely. If they had one decent person in their marketting and pricing departments and really wanted pc users to buy their stuff... they would dropp the 15 to 299, the 17 599, the 19 999, the 22 1499 and the 23 to 2499.

But they have never been good on price points. They seem to forget $.99 is way more appealing to the america public than $1.00

*sighs*

I love apples products, I hate their business practices at times ;)

Maybe we are all over reacting and they are going to release a new form factor 15 inch? like wide screen instead of standard 4:3 :B

[blogo]

Where does it say that the 15" is discontinued?

[pgwalsh]

Originally posted by GPTurismo
I hate that apple is dropping the 15 inch completely. If they had one decent person in their marketting and pricing departments and really wanted pc users to buy their stuff... they would dropp the 15 to 299, the 17 599, the 19 999, the 22 1499 and the 23 to 2499.

But they have never been good on price points. They seem to forget $.99 is way more appealing to the america public than $1.00

*sighs*

I love apples products, I hate their business practices at times ;)

Maybe we are all over reacting and they are going to release a new form factor 15 inch? like wide screen instead of standard 4:3 :B I see your point. Two reasons for the discontinued model.

1. These are usually sold with the professional line.

2. They want to keep a smaller product line for cost. Larger products lines require more inventory space etc.

Three monitor sizes are what Apple tends to offer.

[imamacguy17]

if we're lucky we will see a new crop of displays and it will be

15 inch wide screen 399
17 inch 599
17 inch wide screen 799
19 inch 999
22 inch 1699
23 inch hi def 2699


this would give them a nice nice line up and give people the price points they want until they dump the 15 incher after the IBM G5's are introduced in July 03 (second half is volume production and doesnt mean apple wont be able to have 25,000 in machines before that time) which is about an 1/8 of the volume they generally have in a quarter. i dont think the 15 inch has gone the way of the 15 inch crt yet. it has the viewable of a 17 inch crt in which is the smallest crt but isnt out the door yet. while i dont think there will be two 17 inchers i cant place my bets on either of the two options. we will just have to wait.

[steveh]

Originally posted by GPTurismo
I hate that apple is dropping the 15 inch completely. If they had one decent person in their marketting and pricing departments and really wanted pc users to buy their stuff... they would dropp the 15 to 299, the 17 599, the 19 999, the 22 1499 and the 23 to 2499.

"We lose a little on each sale, but we'll make it up on volume!!"

The prices you quote for the last two are less than what Apple pays for the monitors, and probably less than they would pay for a new 19".

But they have never been good on price points. They seem to forget $.99 is way more appealing to the america public than $1.00

At the same time, you really shouldn't expect them to sell at a loss.
:rolleyes:

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by Eple
Where does it say that the 15" is discontinued?

Well, I'd say that the fact that it's been removed from the Apple Store is a pretty good sign... :rolleyes:

[StuPid QPid]

Originally posted by imamacguy17
if we're lucky we will see a new crop of displays and it will be

22 inch 1699
23 inch hi def 2699

Wow, a $1000 for an extra inch :eek:
That sounds like the pricing policy of a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. :D

[ibookin']

Originally posted by StuPid QPid


Wow, a $1000 for an extra inch :eek:
That sounds like the pricing policy of a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. :D

As some have said before:

You're also getting way more pixels for your $1000.

[edenwaith]

Originally posted by imamacguy17
if we're lucky we will see a new crop of displays and it will be

15 inch wide screen 399
17 inch 599



That sounds somewhat reasonable. If those prices did appear, it would be a tough decision whether to go for the 15" screen, or to go for the 17" screen. Either way, I love the look of the display. Okay, it's just the throbbing light button which gets me. :)

I've been stuck using 15" (or smaller) displays my entire computing life, perhaps it is time for me to go larger and get the 17". The 22" Cinema Display would be very sweet, but I don't have that type of money. That display alone is what I make in 2 or 3 months. It's cool, but it doesn't help to pay the rent or buy food.

But if the 17" comes down to $599 and there is no new 15", then I'll probably still get the 17" display. However, if it costs more than that, I probably won't budge for awhile. I think it is more important for Apple to still offer cheaper items so "Average Joe" can have them too. That is one of the reasons I think the original iMac did so well. Because it was at a reasonable price. Back in 1996, the Mac generally cost a few hundred dollars more than an equivalent PC, and back then, the Macs looked like PCs, too. Nothing to be overly cheerful about. But at least they now have style. If I ever had to get a PC for non-Mac programming work, I'd probably have to look around for a decent looking case. Either that, or cover it with a table cloth and put a vase on it.

[springscansing]

Originally posted by StuPid QPid


Wow, a $1000 for an extra inch :eek:
That sounds like the pricing policy of a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. :D

The 23" is a Hi-Def screen. :D

[springscansing]

Originally posted by steveh


At the same time, you really shouldn't expect them to sell at a loss.
:rolleyes:

Exactly. I donno how all these people know what Apple should sell their products for. :-\

I mean, how many of you all are in charge of major computer companies?

[synergy]

Originally posted by Hemingray


Well, I'd say that the fact that it's been removed from the Apple Store is a pretty good sign... :rolleyes:

Previous G4 towers have been removed from the apple store no longer to be sold but it does not mean no more G4 towers were sold.
I think they are coming out with a new form factor for the LCD line. Current Form factor is pretty weak in terms of flexibility. Compare to the iMac swing arm and you should get the drift.

[scem0]

if we're lucky we will see a new crop of displays and it will be

15 inch wide screen 399
17 inch 599

Since when has apple even considered decent pricing?

[backspinner]

Originally posted by edenwaith
I'd probably have to look around for a decent looking case. Either that, or cover it with a table cloth and put a vase on it. :D

[MrMacMan]

Aw Crap, I was gonna get that display too with a new powermac, but since the 17" gets effected by the promo it now costs less for the 17" one... bah...
I still want to pay less for a computer that should cost Much less. :rolleyes:

[Nebrie]

Originally posted by GPTurismo
I hate that apple is dropping the 15 inch completely. If they had one decent person in their marketting and pricing departments and really wanted pc users to buy their stuff... they would dropp the 15 to 299, the 17 599, the 19 999, the 22 1499 and the 23 to 2499.

But they have never been good on price points. They seem to forget $.99 is way more appealing to the america public than $1.00

*sighs*

I love apples products, I hate their business practices at times ;)

Maybe we are all over reacting and they are going to release a new form factor 15 inch? like wide screen instead of standard 4:3 :B

Your prices aren't logical. If you've ever seen an Apple LCD, you'll know that they are very high quality LCDs. For $299, you are getting the crap of crap and only at a discount store.

[Hawthorne]

Originally posted by G4scott
I'd say expect something on Thursday... It's the 24th, and we all know that special things sometimes happen on the the 24th...


Is it usual for Apple to announce new products on the 24th of the month?

If so, the ol' Visa card is in for a little workout soon...;)

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by scem0


Since when has apple even considered decent pricing?
I consider their pricing to be quite reasonable considering what you get.

[blogo]

Originally posted by Hemingray


Well, I'd say that the fact that it's been removed from the Apple Store is a pretty good sign... :rolleyes:

What Apple store are you looking at?
It's still there

[GPTurismo]

Originally posted by steveh
At the same time, you really shouldn't expect them to sell at a loss.
:rolleyes:

Well, then why buy their screens when you buy a DVI monitor with better color and contrast etc. for a few hundred dollars less? It's a strong arguement that their systems are better due to os x etc. etc., but the screens? the only benefit is ADC and the form factor.

but... oh yeah.. the form factor ;)

And where did apple tell us how much those monitors cost, as in exact numbers from purcahsing components, to assembly, to office costs?

[elensil]

How about Formac 1740?
It available in both DVI and ADC.

[edenwaith]

Originally posted by springscansing


Exactly. I donno how all these people know what Apple should sell their products for. :-\


Well, I think some people would like to see Apple's prices go down in some areas. Not too much, of course, or Apple will be losing money and then end up facing the same problems that most PC manufacturers are having.

It seems that the key to selling well is to have decent low and high end line-ups. If all you sell is high priced hardware, you'll make a lot on each sale, but those sales won't happen nearly as often as the low-end ones. Especially since today's low-end machines are pretty powerful and well featured. I've seen some sub-$600 systems, and they just aren't that wonderful, but for some people they will work just great. If you look back several years ago, Next was making some interesting machines with features that were pretty much unheard of on any normal home computer. However, the Next computers were not really intended for mass consumption, but originally geared more towards higher education and scientific markets. Or, at least, the people with thousands of dollars to spend on a powerful computer.

All and all, though, at least we don't have to pay a million dollars per computer, or pay $300 just to upgrade from 256 to 640 Kb (that is Kilobytes, NOT Megabytes) of memory. I can pretty easily get 256 MB RAM chip for around $50, whereas even a few years ago just 64 would range from $50-$100. Oh, how things can change for the better overtime. But the software makers still manage to hog all of these resources! How come a 500 MHz machine just doesn't seem fast enough at times? Kind of sad. Perhaps these new Bloat OS's like W2k/XP/or OS X need a special department just to try and optimize the OS and speed it up. Yes, I've seen some speed improvements in OS X, especially from 10.0 to 10.1, and a small change in 10.2, but not much. Perhaps I still yearn for the day when the computer will start up in 15 seconds (hey my Mac Classic does, and so does my Tandy...okay, so it only runs DOS).

[Mirage_]

Originally posted by MacAztec
Drop the 17in to 799 or 749, bring a 19in to 999, the 22in to 1799 ir 1999, and the 23in to 2999!

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[Mirage_]

Originally posted by edenwaith


Well, I think some people would like to see Apple's prices go down in some areas. Not too much, of course, or Apple will be losing money and then end up facing the same problems that most PC manufacturers are having.

It seems that the key to selling well is to have decent low and high end line-ups. If all you sell is high priced hardware, you'll make a lot on each sale, but those sales won't happen nearly as often as the low-end ones. Especially since today's low-end machines are pretty powerful and well featured. I've seen some sub-$600 systems, and they just aren't that wonderful, but for some people they will work just great. If you look back several years ago, Next was making some interesting machines with features that were pretty much unheard of on any normal home computer. However, the Next computers were not really intended for mass consumption, but originally geared more towards higher education and scientific markets. Or, at least, the people with thousands of dollars to spend on a powerful computer.

All and all, though, at least we don't have to pay a million dollars per computer, or pay $300 just to upgrade from 256 to 640 Kb (that is Kilobytes, NOT Megabytes) of memory. I can pretty easily get 256 MB RAM chip for around $50, whereas even a few years ago just 64 would range from $50-$100. Oh, how things can change for the better overtime. But the software makers still manage to hog all of these resources! How come a 500 MHz machine just doesn't seem fast enough at times? Kind of sad. Perhaps these new Bloat OS's like W2k/XP/or OS X need a special department just to try and optimize the OS and speed it up. Yes, I've seen some speed improvements in OS X, especially from 10.0 to 10.1, and a small change in 10.2, but not much. Perhaps I still yearn for the day when the computer will start up in 15 seconds (hey my Mac Classic does, and so does my Tandy...okay, so it only runs DOS).

I rarely need to restart my computer, because its so stable. But when I do its quick as hell, next time I restart maybe i'll time it. Its probably around like 15 - 20 seconds. Maybe you should upgrade the 128 megs of ram in your 500mhz g4. that might have something to do with OS X running slow for *you* my Dual 1 Ghz G4 / 768 MB DDR / Radeon 9000 runs very very very FAST. Owned.

[Mirage_]

It makes me laugh that you all sit here and bitch about Apples LCD prices. I guess it isn't obvious to you that Apple doesn't MAKE LCD's. They buy LCD's in bulk from an LCD manufacturer, and put a nice case around them, and their nice ADC cable. Until the price of LCD's comes down in general, you're not going to see much of a price drop in Apple LCD's. As for the 15" LCD being taken off the shelf... logically, one would come to the conclusion that *the 15" LCD's were not selling* as a result, Apple is spending money to buy these 15" LCD's and then can't get rid of them. So they cut that product out of the line because it is losing them money. Business sense is really very simple. You want to make money. Anything which causes you to LOSE money, directly or indirectly, is BAD. Apple could care less if you think it would be *nice* if they kept that 15" LCD, they only care if you are going to BUY the damn LCD. :)

[Mirage_]

Originally posted by StuPid QPid


Wow, a $1000 for an extra inch :eek:
That sounds like the pricing policy of a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. :D

yeah, but girls dig guys with 23" ers. SIZE DOES MATTER.