Security Update 2005-007 Released

[MacRumors]

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Now available via Software Update:
Security Update 2005-007 delivers a number of security enhancements and is recommended for all Macintosh users. This update includes the following components:

AppKit
BlueTooth
CoreFoundation
cups
Directory Services
HIToolBox
Kerberos
loginwindow
Mail
OpenSSL
QuartzComposerScreenSaver
Security Interface
Safari
X11
zlib

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798

[quigleybc]

Security is good

Anyone had any issues yet?

[NEENAHBOY]

Thread merge? (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=143980)

I did beat the admin, after all. :)

[camomac]

SWEET! been waiting for this, will D/L when I get home!

[rinseout]

Security is good

Anyone had any issues yet?
The only thing that scared me is that upon rebooting the progress bar seems to hang about 80% of the way through when it's "Starting Mac OS X" or whatever. But eventually the login screen appears and everything seems to be working normally.

[stridey]

The only thing that scared me is that upon rebooting the progress bar seems to hang about 80% of the way through when it's "Starting Mac OS X" or whatever. But eventually the login screen appears and everything seems to be working normally.

That's because that progress bar isn't actually a progress bar (http://daringfireball.net/misc/2005/04/tiger_details#waitingforloginwindow). It's just an animation to let you know that something is happening.

[Freg3000]

For reference, since I always seem to think Apple is fixing the same things, here are the components the previous two Security Updates fixed.

2005-005
Apache
AppKit
AppleScript
Bluetooth
Finder
Foundation
Help Viewer
lukemftpd
sudo
Terminal
VPN
X11

2005-006
AFP Server
Bluetooth
CoreGraphics
Folder Permissions
launchd
LaunchServices
NFS
PHP
VPN

And the one released today...

2005-007
AppKit
BlueTooth
CoreFoundation
cups
Directory Services
HIToolBox
Kerberos
loginwindow
Mail
OpenSSL
QuartzComposerScreenSaver
Security Interface
Safari
X11
zlib

Bluetooth seems to be the most popular. :)

[CaptainScarlet]

Wow that's a lot of stuff in there...

After install, my Sony superdrive is working again!! LOL

Lets see how long it lasts this time...HEHEH




Captain Scarlet........

[iDM]

I get so excited for updates regardless of if they have any effect on my comp that i'll notice

[GroundLoop]

Well, I don't have any problems with it on my PowerBook. All is good thus far.

Hickman

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

iBook's back up without any apparent problems... :)

Hmm... Apple seem to be one month behind schedule with this one, we're in the 8th month now... :p

[Nermal]

It's not showing up in my SU, could a "hacked" Safari cause this?

Hmm... Apple seem to be one month behind schedule with this one, we're in the 8th month now... :p

The -007 doesn't mean 7th month, just that it's the 7th update this year.

[bousozoku]

Well, I don't have any problems with it on my PowerBook. All is good thus far.

Hickman

I wish I could say that. Mine gets a kernel panic each time I re-boot. :(

[TyWahn]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?

[robbieduncan]

Just installed on my PowerBook. All seems fine.

[MacCoaster]

Bluetooth seems to be the most popular. :)
Yep, Bluetooth is extremely insecure. Just google for "bluetooth security" or "bluetooth insecurity". :(

Shame, as it's a great technology. Hats off to Apple for doing excellent security updates in a timely manner. Now only if Microsoft would do the same.

I actually got this e-mail from my University, here's a snippet:
To: All Institute Windows Computer Users
Why am I receiving this note?
Current attacks from the Internet are taking advantage of newly discovered vulnerabilities and exploits in Microsoft Windows Operating Systems. Users must patch Windows systems IMMEDIATELY to protect Institute computing resources and confidential information. NOTE! Even if you have enabled automatic updating, problems with the Auto-Update feature of Windows may cause automatic installations to fail. You must visit http://www.windowsupdate.com <http://www.windowsupdate.com/> to ensure patches are installed.

Systems which are identified as being unpatched will be removed from the network and quarantined beginning 3:30 pm, August 15, 2005.

Affected systems
All Windows systems users. Macintosh and Linux users are not affected.
Emphasis mine. :D

[wwooden]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?

I totally agree. I keep my computer very organized, photos go in iPhoto, movies go in movie section, all my apps are in applications. I don't add a lot of third party stuff so I think that helps as well. I have never had a problem with any system or security update ( except for the fact that they disabled a lot of G5's like my iMac from hosting a multi-video conference in 10.4.1 and 10.4.2).

[JupiterTwo]

Shutdown my iMac after the update was applied. Starting it up again it seemed to get stuck in a full power fan exercise. Not sure if that was related to the update, but a power cycle and everything's back tootling along fine :)

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

The -007 doesn't mean 7th month, just that it's the 7th update this year.I know it's just a number and has nothing to do with the month, but they've been very consistent so far this year...

This is also why I added the: :p

;)

Also, all the good James Bond jokes had been covered in the earlier thread ;)

The thread that e just closed, btw, instead of merging the two... :confused:

[DavidLeblond]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?


Some of us came from a Windows background where early adoption of service patches would sometimes cause lots of headache due to lack of testing.

Give us time.

[Eevee]

No "explosion" whatsoever after installing on my powerbook :D

[Dokter_Mac]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?
No man!!! I maintained all my Mac's and after the 10.4.2 update i have troubles with a Powerbook and a MDD PowerMac. And i mean real troubles , such as kernel panics and the computer that's stops responding when shutting down , my printer and scanner stops responding , etc. For now i stay with version 10.4.1 after a lot of troubleshooting.
It's the first update which i have troubles with. Before 10.4.2 came out , i always downloaded and updated all my Mac's immediately. Now i'm being carefull because a downgrade is a lot off work and backing up.
I hope 10.4.3 is out soon. It should be out yesterday ;-)
Leppe

[Stella]

Its is extremely unlikely your Mac has been hacked.

Safari has nothing to do with Software Update, either.

It's not showing up in my SU, could a "hacked" Safari cause this?



The -007 doesn't mean 7th month, just that it's the 7th update this year.

[clayj]

It's not showing up in my SU, could a "hacked" Safari cause this?Nermal, I've noticed before that new updates sometimes take a while to be available worldwide... it's like there's more than one SU server and, since you're in NZ, yours hasn't gotten the update yet.

[csubear]

There a few that a very disturbing:

AppKit: All the App kit buffer overflow issues. Just think, open an text file and BAM virus.

servermgrd: only affects OS X server, but remote exploits are very scary.

Webkit: a pdf in safari could give you a virus.

What makes them extra scary, these are in house apple components. Every one has AppKit, and WebKit. Infact the text box I am typing in right now is a text view from appkit.

[Nermal]

Its is extremely unlikely your Mac has been hacked.

Safari has nothing to do with Software Update, either.

The other sort of hacking (haxie-ing?) - I modified my Safari. But the update's showing up now so it doesn't matter :)

[tchorta]

All good on my PowerBook, didn't even cause any permissions to get outta wack.

[Stella]

You are over reacting.

What makes it significantly less scary is that it is unlikely to happen in the first place.

No software is bug free.



There a few that a very disturbing:

AppKit: All the App kit buffer overflow issues. Just think, open an text file and BAM virus.

servermgrd: only affects OS X server, but remote exploits are very scary.

Webkit: a pdf in safari could give you a virus.

What makes them extra scary, these are in house apple components. Every one has AppKit, and WebKit. Infact the text box I am typing in right now is a text view from appkit.

[quackattack]

I feel safer already! :rolleyes:
Although, I am appreciative of any improvements my system can have.

[oskar]

Did anyone else get the PowerBook G4 Graphics Update 1.0 in Software Update as well? No one seems to have mentioned it yet.

[BRLawyer]

Simply perfect, 2 minutes (plus 1 for permission repairs, one before, another after) to download, install and optimize...no problems whatsoever on my iMac G5...GO APPLE!

[bousozoku]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?

Thanks, I feel doubly bad now. :D :eek:

[ohcrap]

As we speak, rebooting the Mac after installing update. Starting Mac OS X... nothing wrong here. :)

Just a little live action for everyone, lol, I'm a dork... :rolleyes:

[iSaint]

iBook rebooted fine...dang, I'll never make it past 28 days uptime:

[Stella]

It was released last week, and mentioned on MR ( or Mac Bytes).


Did anyone else get the PowerBook G4 Graphics Update 1.0 in Software Update as well? No one seems to have mentioned it yet.

[MrPembridge]

Anyone having an issue with SAFT for 10.4.2? [Safari extender thingy]

I get the error message "SAFT DOES NOT SUPPORT SAFARI v.412.2.2. SO IT WILL NOT LOAD." Even tho' I downloaded and installed the updated SAFT version, and it has worked flawlessly.

Might just be me. Other than that, everything seems great.

[oldMac]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?

You must not have been around for that Mac OS X update a couple years ago that erased everybodys hard drives if they had spaces in the names.

You also must not have been using the built-in FTP server when that Mac OS X update came out last year that caused the FTP server to stop working.

These things are inevitable. It's smart to wait a couple days if there's not an immediately pressing issue (such as a exploit in the wild.)

[oskar]

It was released last week, and mentioned on MR ( or Mac Bytes).

:eek: Guess I have to put Check for updates to daily, then. I hadn't heard of it.

[Doctor Q]

Excluding changes that apply only to OS X Server, here are the details:

AppKit

Opening a malicious, rich text file could lead to arbitrary code execution.

A buffer overflow in the handling of maliciously crafted rich text files could lead to arbitrary code execution. This update prevents the buffer overflow from occuring.

AppKit

Opening a maliciously crafted Microsoft Word .doc file could result in arbitrary code execution.

A buffer overflow in AppKit that is responsible for reading Word documents could allow arbitrary code execution. Only applications such as TextEdit that use AppKit to open Word documents are vulnerable. Microsoft Word for Mac OS X is not vulnerable. This update prevents the buffer overflow.

AppKit

A malicious user with physical access to a system could create additional local accounts.

A malicious user who has full physical access to a system could create additional accounts by forcing an error condition. This update prevents the error conditions from occurring at the login window.

Bluetooth

The System Profiler information about whether or not a Bluetooth device requires authentication is misleading.

Selecting "Require pairing for security" in Bluetooth preferences correctly sets the device to require authentication, but in System Profiler the device is labeled with "Requires Authentication: No." This update changes System Profiler to accurately reflect the Bluetooth security settings. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X 10.4. Credit to John M. Glenn of San Francisco for reporting this issue.

CoreFoundation

Buffer overflow via a command line argument for applications using the CoreFoundation framework.

The incorrect handling of a command line argument within the CoreFoundation framework can result in a buffer overflow that may be used to execute arbitrary code. This issue has been addressed by improved handling of command line arguments. This issue does not affect Mac OS X 10.4. Credit to David Remahl of www.remahl.se/david for reporting this issue.

CoreFoundation

Passing a malformed date to the CoreFoundation framework can cause applications to stall.

The parsing of Gregorian dates in the CoreFoundation framework is vulnerable to an algorithmic complexity attack that could result in a denial of service. This update modifies the algorithm to parse all valid dates within a fixed processing time. Credit to David Remahl of www.remahl.se/david for reporting this issue.

CUPS

The CUPS printing service will not print unless it is restarted.

When handling multiple, simultaneous, print jobs, the CUPS printing service can stop printing because it incorrectly tracks open file descriptors. In addition, if CUPS receives a partial IPP request and a client terminates the connection, the printing service will then consume all available CPUs. If the service is restarted, then printing will resume. This update corrects the handling of multiple, simultaneous print jobs and partial requests.

Directory Services

The privileged tool dsidentity has several security flaws that can result in non-administrative users adding or removing identity user accounts in Directory Services.

This update addresses this issue by removing dsidentity and its documentation. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X 10.4. Credit to kf_lists[at]digitalmunition[dot]com and Neil Archibald of Suresec LTD for reporting this issue.

HItoolbox

VoiceOver may read content from secure input fields.

Under certain circumstances, secure input fields may be read by VoiceOver services. This update stops VoiceOver from exposing the content of these fields. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X v10.4.

Kerberos

An authenticated user could execute arbitrary code on the KDC host, compromising a Kerberos realm.

A heap buffer overflow in password history handling code could be exploited to execute arbitrary code on a Key Distribution Center (KDC). This issue does not affect Mac OS X 10.4. Credit to the MIT Kerberos team for reporting this isue. Their advisory for this vulnerability is located at http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/advisories/MITKRB5-SA-2004-004-pwhist.txt

Kerberos

Multiple buffer overflow vulnerabilities could result in denial of service or remote compromise of a KDC.

This update upgrades Kerberos for Macintosh to version 5.5.1, which contains fixes for this issue. The Kerberos security advisories for these issues are located at http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/advisories/

Kerberos

Kerberos-enabled logins when using LDAP can result in root compromise.

When Kerberos authentication is enabled in addition to LDAP, it was possible to gain access to a root Terminal window. Kerberos authentication has been updated to prevent this situation. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X v10.4. Credit to Jim Foraker of Carnegie Mellon University and colleagues at MacEnterprise.Org for reporting this issue.

loginwindow

A user can gain access to other logged-in accounts if Fast User Switching is enabled.

An error in the handling of Fast User Switching can allow a local user who knows the password for two accounts to log into a third account without knowing the password. This update corrects the authentication error. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X 10.4. Credit to Sam McCandlish for reporting this issue.

Mail

Loss of privacy due to Mail loading remote images in HTML emails.

When Mail.app is used to print or forward an HTML message, it will attempt to load remote images even if a user's preferences disallow it. As this network traffic is not expected, it may be considered a privacy leak. This update addresses the issue by having Mail.app only load remote images in HTML messages when the preferences allow it. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X v10.4. Credit to Brad Miller of CynicalPeak and John Pell of Foreseeable Solutions for reporting this issue.

OpenSSL

Multiple denial of service vulnerabilities in OpenSSL.

OpenSSL is updated to version 0.9.7g to address several issues. The OpenSSL advisory for these issues is located at http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20040317.txt

ping

A buffer overflow could result in local privilege escalation and arbitrary code execution.

The ping utility is vulnerable to a buffer overflow. This update prevents the buffer overflow from occurring. This issue does not affect systems running Mac OS X v10.4. Credit to Neil Archibald of Suresec LTD for reporting this issue.

QuartzComposerScreenSaver

Users could open webpages while the RSS Visualizer screen saver is locked.

It is possible to open displayed links from the RSS Visualizer in the background when the screen saver is configured to require a password. This update prevents the RSS Visualizer screen saver from opening a URL if a password is required to exit the screen saver. Credit to Jay Craft of GrooVault Entertainment, LLC for reporting this issue.

Safari

Clicking on a link in a maliciously-crafted rich text file in Safari could lead to arbitrary command execution.

Safari renders rich text content using code that allows URLs to be called directly, which bypasses the normal browser security checks. This update addresses the issue by handling all links in rich text through Safari.

Safari

Information can be inadvertently submitted to the wrong site.

When submitting forms in Safari on an XSL formatted page, data is sent to the next page browsed. This update addresses the issue by ensuring that form contents are submitted correctly. Credit to Bill Kuker for reporting this issue.

SecurityInterface

Recently-used passwords are visible via the password assistant.

The password assistant provides an easy mechanism for selecting a good password. If an administrator uses the password assistant while adding multiple accounts, they will be able to view previously suggested passwords. This only occurs when password assistant is used more than once from the same process. This update addresses the issue by resetting the suggested password list each time the password assistant is displayed. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X v10.4. Credit to Andrew Langmead of Boston.com for reporting this issue.

traceroute

A buffer overflow could result in local privilege escalation and arbitrary code execution.

The traceroute utility is vulnerable to a buffer overflow. This update prevents the buffer overflow from occurring. This issue does not affect systems running Mac OS X v10.4. Credit to Neil Archibald of Suresec LTD for reporting this issue.

WebKit

Clicking on a link in a maliciously-crafted PDF file in Safari could lead to arbitrary command execution.

Safari renders PDF content using code that allows URLs to be called directly, which bypasses the normal browser security checks. This Safari issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X v10.4. This update addresses the issue by handling all links in PDF through Safari.

X11

A buffer overflow could result in arbitrary code execution.

An error in LibXPM may allow attackers to execute arbitrary code via a negative bitmap_unit value that leads to a buffer overflow. This issue does not affect systems prior to Mac OS X v10.4.

zlib

Applications linked against zlib are susceptible to denial of service attacks and potential execution of arbitrary code.

By carefully crafting a corrupt compressed data stream, an attacker can overwrite data structures in a zlib-using application, resulting in denial of service or possible arbitrary code execution. This update address the issue by updating zlib to version 1.2.3.

[Stridder44]

Honestly, who rates these things as a negative!?? How is this bad??

[Nermal]

Honestly, who rates these things as a negative!?? How is this bad??

Probably someone complaining that the security holes were there in the first place :rolleyes:

[treblah]

Safari has nothing to do with Software Update, either.

I was checking out some of the nightly WebKit builds using NightShift and found that SU crashes if it is running. I don't know what the deal is but I think they are somehow related. :confused:

[pubwvj]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?

Remember 10.3.8?
Remember 10.2.8?
Remember FireWire800 problems?
Remember...

There have been times when it was good not to be the first to update...
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Paranoia isn't just a way of life, it's a good idea.

[neutrino23]

Honestly, who rates these things as a negative!?? How is this bad??

Maybe trolls who would vote negative even on a 3GHz G5 PB.
:rolleyes:

[miseldine]

Another positive report here from a Powerbook G4 with 10.4.2, bought in May.

The RTF bug looks like a pretty nasty one TBH. Glad they've caught it at least.

Being a recent switcher...are hackers of Mac OS X more inclined to inform Apple of problems rather than exploit them? More a case of supporting a platform than trying to bring it down (as in Windows). Or is there no discrimination?

Wildly OT I know ;)

[csubear]

You are over reacting.

What makes it significantly less scary is that it is unlikely to happen in the first place.

No software is bug free.

I know that. I make a living as a software developer, but also being a developer I understand how scary buffer overflows can be. Its not really to hard to do it. For example the appKit opening a text file overflow, the hardest part would be figuring out what you would need to cause the overflow. Perhaps having a data after the end of file marker? That would be my guess. Then just keep shoving 00 on to the end of the buffer, wait for the program to crash, examine the core dump, get the IP, insert a jump, and some evil assembly code. Done.. virus. A virus in a text file at that.

Bugs happen, but buffer overflows should never happen. As a developer you always check the length of user exposed data. Period. Never copy something on to the heap if you do not know its size.

[Mac]

Anyone having an issue with SAFT for 10.4.2? [Safari extender thingy]

I get the error message "SAFT DOES NOT SUPPORT SAFARI v.412.2.2. SO IT WILL NOT LOAD." Even tho' I downloaded and installed the updated SAFT version, and it has worked flawlessly.

SAFT means "Cool-aid" or "Lemonade" in my language.... Man, I'm sorry. I just had to do this. So for all Scandinavians the error message said: "Cool-aid does not support Safari".

:rolleyes:

[wonderkid]

Seriously, why can't they fix Safari so it doesn't lock up. Then again, Firefox locks up too, oh, and Illustrator and Dreamweaver do too. Nothing really changes. OK, back to watching Cape Fear (1991) here in London on ITV2. DeNiro is the only credible actor, rest is pure unrealistic crap.

[iBlue]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?

<pimp slap> -- for you! :D

no seriously, i was using 10.3.8 and everything was peachy farkin keen and then i went into the 10.3.9 and have had a few problems that are still not resolved really. [grrr] i was furious at first, felt like i was being forced into Tiger or something (how unApple) so these things do happen. i totally understand the apprehension now.
people are wise to check things out, and the members of this forum are pretty sensible in that regard

</end pimp slap> :D

[Gandalf!]

Hi guys. I'm relatively new to Mac, but love it so far. I have one question though. Whenever I run a software update, the software update automatically appears at the end of the update telling me about new software available that I just updated! Is this common and/or is there a fix? Thanks in advance for any help!

[manu chao]

There goes my uptime.

104 days since the last update requiring a reboot.

[hob]

I had a problem. As my G5 shut down, the finder all went away, I was left with no mouse pointed and just my wallpaper. Had to manual shut down my system (i.e. with a sledgehammer). Upon restarting, apple chime chimed, but the screen remained blank. Left it for 2 minutes, no change. Reboot - screen blank for longer than normal, although that could've been my heart-pounding perception, but then everything was happy and normal.

This has been the worst catastrophy to befall my G5. :D

[Doctor Q]

Hi guys. I'm relatively new to Mac, but love it so far. I have one question though. Whenever I run a software update, the software update automatically appears at the end of the update telling me about new software available that I just updated! Is this common and/or is there a fix? Thanks in advance for any help!Many times, installing a particular update makes you eligible for another update so you see new items in Software Update that you didn't see before. This is normal and proper and happens when the updates must be installed serially. Even though it may seem annoying to see more to install when you thought you were done, this makes it more foolproof because you can't install updates out of order.

[maya]

I had a problem. As my G5 shut down, the finder all went away, I was left with no mouse pointed and just my wallpaper. Had to manual shut down my system (i.e. with a sledgehammer). Upon restarting, apple chime chimed, but the screen remained blank. Left it for 2 minutes, no change. Reboot - screen blank for longer than normal, although that could've been my heart-pounding perception, but then everything was happy and normal.

This has been the worst catastrophy to befall my G5. :D

Run for the Hills, the G5's are under attack. :p ;) :D

[mkubal]

I had a problem. As my G5 shut down, the finder all went away, I was left with no mouse pointed and just my wallpaper. Had to manual shut down my system (i.e. with a sledgehammer). Upon restarting, apple chime chimed, but the screen remained blank. Left it for 2 minutes, no change. Reboot - screen blank for longer than normal, although that could've been my heart-pounding perception, but then everything was happy and normal.

This has been the worst catastrophy to befall my G5. :D


Oh man, I know that feeling. Absolute terror. Yikes!

Anyway, dual 533 updated perfectly. Yeah, I know, it's old. It makes me look like a Hillbilly. Now to update my TiBook 400.

Oh yeah.... feels snappier :D ;)

[usarioclave]

upgraded both an iBook G3/800 and an iMac G5/1.8 with no issues. That freaking iMac fan is as loud as ever (sigh).

[maya]

Oh man, I know that feeling. Absolute terror. Yikes!

Anyway, dual 533 updated perfectly. Yeah, I know, it's old. It makes me look like a Hillbilly. Now to update my TiBook 400.

Oh yeah.... feels snappier :D ;)

You are on the cutting edge of technology. ;) :p :eek: :D

[njmac]

12" rev b PB ==> no problem here. I can't tell if it feels quicker, but I feel safer.

[ham_man]

Remember 10.3.8?
Remember 10.2.8?
Remember FireWire800 problems?
Remember...

There have been times when it was good not to be the first to update...
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Paranoia isn't just a way of life, it's a good idea.
I had no problem with 10.3.8...

There goes my uptime.

104 days since the last update requiring a reboot.
Holy crap. I thought that my 13 day record was something to be proud of... :eek:

I haven't had any problem with this update. Glad it fixed a lot of buffer errors...

[Gandalf!]

Thanks for the help. That makes sense, however the updates that show up are always the same ones I just finished updating. :confused:

Many times, installing a particular update makes you eligible for another update so you see new items in Software Update that you didn't see before. This is normal and proper and happens when the updates must be installed serially. Even though it may seem annoying to see more to install when you thought you were done, this makes it more foolproof because you can't install updates out of order.

[cjc343]

Any update that you just successfully installed will remain in Software Update with a green check mark next to it. It's just Apple's way of confirming that everything went as planned. If an update fails to install, either because you lose your internet connection and can't finish downloading it, or something goes wrong in the install process, there will be a red exclamation mark.

I wouldd prefer, personally, if it removed successful updates, but it's not a big deal - notice, the checkboxes can no longer be checked or unchecked, and you can't try to install the same updates again.

[kalisphoenix]

Holy crap. I thought that my 13 day record was something to be proud of... :eek:

Not unless you're running OS 9.
</mild troll>

[simX]

Not unless you're running OS 9.
</mild troll>

Heh heh heh. If you're telling the truth, you're not a troll. ;)

[Mac_Freak]

It is kind of a nice that Apple test their own OS for holes, rather than waiting for hackers to find them; unlike Microsoft. :D

[autrefois]

Honestly, who rates these things as a negative!?? How is this bad??

Well, if I had kernel panics everytime I rebooted like bousozoku mentioned
here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=1666658&postcount=13) I might view this update as negative, too...

[matticus008]

QuartzComposerScreenSaver

Users could open webpages while the RSS Visualizer screen saver is locked.

It is possible to open displayed links from the RSS Visualizer in the background when the screen saver is configured to require a password. This update prevents the RSS Visualizer screen saver from opening a URL if a password is required to exit the screen saver. Credit to Jay Craft of GrooVault Entertainment, LLC for reporting this issue.


I see the inherent security flaws in this (flaws plural, yes), but does this mean that the screen saver is more or less useless now to those of us whose workstations ask for a password to exit the screen saver? I still want the article to open when I press 4, after I enter my password. Otherwise, what's the point? I might as well just read the feeds in Firefox.

[amac4me]

No issues so far ... thanks Apple for another Security Update :)

[Bibulous]

So far so good on the old 667 pbook.

Going over to my mom and pops tomorrow to help set up their new imac. Let's hope apple keeps up the good work with these security updates. Had to wipe and reinstall XP on my sisters Dell, after that it wasn’t to hard a sell on the imac.

[Tupring]

iBook's back up without any apparent problems... :)

Hmm... Apple seem to be one month behind schedule with this one, we're in the 8th month now... :p
Apple doesn't name them that way anymore. 2005-007 just simply means "the seventh update of the year"

[bousozoku]

Well, if I had kernel panics everytime I rebooted like bousozoku mentioned
here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=1666658&postcount=13) I might view this update as negative, too...

I didn't rate it as negative though. I just wasn't having any luck. Of course, the machine wouldn't even boot my Tech Tool Pro 4 CD to check any disk problems that Disk Utility wouldn't repair.

I ended up removing the extra RAM and the extra devices and the Ethernet cable and it finally finished booting. Then, I connected everything again and installed the other RAM stick. Everything is fine now. Hopefully, I won't have to re-boot any time soon...at least, until 10.4.3. :D

[StarbucksSam]

Big problems. It totally deleted Safari and Mail... it turned them in to FOLDERS that I couldn't go in to. Also, it deleted most of my icons and everything is all blank.

I'm using INTERNET EXPLORER.

[Peel]

The -007 doesn't mean 7th month, just that it's the 7th update this year.
Yes, but it's always concerned me that Apple thought it a good idea to give themselves the ability to have 999 updates in one year. 99 isn't enough? I mean, can you imaging the talk if they ever had to release SU 2005-100?

[avkills]

Big problems. It totally deleted Safari and Mail... it turned them in to FOLDERS that I couldn't go in to. Also, it deleted most of my icons and everything is all blank.

I'm using INTERNET EXPLORER.

Uh Huh.....

Things all look good here.

-mark

[~Shard~]

Haven't had one of these in a while it seems - thanks for keeping me safe Apple! ;)

[Stella]

Personally, I had no problem with:
10.3.8
10.2.8
FireWire 800

On a larger scale these problems didn't affect everyone, i.e,. not everyone had FW800. Not everyone was affected by 10.3.8.

Keep it in perspective: overall Apple software updates are pretty good and reliable.

Furthermore, you certainly do not need to be afraid. You post is nothing short of scare mongering.

On another note...
...Paranoia is also a sign of sickness too :-p


Remember 10.3.8?
Remember 10.2.8?
Remember FireWire800 problems?
Remember...

There have been times when it was good not to be the first to update...
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Paranoia isn't just a way of life, it's a good idea.

[bostonMAC]

After installing this update on my brand new iBook both Safari and Mail refuse to start, and have folders as icons. Can not connect to another Mac says it is missing a component when ever you try to mount a drive/folder. Odd thing happoned after installing this update upon restarting the progress bar froze about 80% of the way through.... Thanks for the update Apple!!!!! Good thing this is a new iBook not much on it. Now on to reinstalling :mad:

[StarbucksSam]

After installing this update on my brand new iBook both Safari and Mail refuse to start, and have folders as icons. Can not connect to another Mac says it is missing a component when ever you try to mount a drive/folder. Odd thing happoned after installing this update upon restarting the progress bar froze about 80% of the way through.... Thanks for the update Apple!!!!! Good thing this is a new iBook not much on it. Now on to reinstalling :mad:

Same thing here. I am literally erasing and reinstalling everything. It literally DECIMATED my PowerBook. DECIMATED.

[erchino]

My safari wont open it says that current version of safari (v412.2.2) is not supported??? what is this mean???
anyone help...
thanks

[Doctor Q]

After installing this update on my brand new iBook both Safari and Mail refuse to start, and have folders as icons.StarbucksSam and bostonMAC: Applications are folders, but are normally treated otherwise to give a pleasant appearance. That's why you can control-click on an application and select "Show Package Contents", which really means "'fess up and show me the folder I know is there." So your applications may not have been trashed, and the Finder was merely confused about the fact that they were applications.

However, as long as your personal settings, bookmarks, e-mail, etc. are intact (safely inside your home folder), reinstalling the applications will probably be just as effective as figuring out steps to unconfuse the Finder.

[VanNess]

Big problems. It totally deleted Safari and Mail... it turned them in to FOLDERS that I couldn't go in to. Also, it deleted most of my icons and everything is all blank.

I'm using INTERNET EXPLORER.

Applications that turn into blank folders or icons are usually symptomatic of moving Apple applications (in this case Safari and Mail) out of the Applications folder and into some other location. Apple's installers expect Apple applications and utilities (and their support files, if any) to be located in their original default installation location. If they are not, bad bad things can occur in software updates, like that which you describe.

If that is the case, move Safari and Mail back into the Applications folder (hopefully, you didn't move or fool with any other webkit files they may rely on), download the security update and reapply it. All should be well again.

In any event, for what it's worth to anyone reading this, never move Apple applications. Use aliases instead if you want them in another folder.

[ewetho]

Kind of weird here lately that Shelock would not log in and would keep cycling languages sometime in Kanji (Japanes or Chnese or Korean) Spanish what ever and would not show any info. Then started loosing channels. Was going to take it in to the 'ol Appel store but no worries now all is fine. Repopulated channels and everything now works again.

GO APPLE!!!

Beat the heck out of my old PC!!!

Love my Mac mini

[StarbucksSam]

My Apple apps were all in the right places. That wasn't the only thing that was wrong, though - it deleted a lot of icons and mixed things up. The trash can literally looked like automator. It was very VERY disconcerting. And then there were folders that would not respond and all of these different kinds of folders that were like... not normal... like you couldn't move anything in our out of them.

I am wiping my hard drive right now and installing 10.3 again. Then I have to find my Tiger disks. Oy vey.

[bostonMAC]

StarbucksSam and bostonMAC: Applications are folders, but are normally treated otherwise to give a pleasant appearance. That's why you can control-click on an application and select "Show Package Contents", which really means "'fess up and show me the folder I know is there." So your applications may not have been trashed, and the Finder was merely confused about the fact that they were applications.

However, as long as your personal settings, bookmarks, e-mail, etc. are intact (safely inside your home folder), reinstalling the applications will probably be just as effective as figuring out steps to unconfuse the Finder.

I realize that applications are just folders but after the update Safari and Mail refused to start, their icons where just folders. Their where a few other applications with corrupted or generic icons (they would launch though). Also I could not browse to any other computer on my network and when I manually typed in the computer address (afp://192.168.100.1) I received an error stating that I was missing some components. So this update did more than just mess up application icons.

On a good note I just reinstalled Mac OS X 10.4, and applied all the updated (including bravely / stupidly the new security update) and everything is fine. :) Now on to reinstalling all my applications and transferring 12GB of data back over. :(

Also both Safari and Mail where in the Applications folder...

[neutrino23]

Installed the update and everything works fine. No consolation I'm sure to those who have seen problems.

Before any update I always log out and back in, repair permissions and then restart. It may not all be necessary but if there is any problem with the system I feel it should show up/be corrected by this procedure. I used to also fsck the HD but nothing ever shows up so I got bored of that.

[JW8725]

Woah I got too much to loose. Im not updating just yet! :confused:

[lizard79]

After installing this update on my brand new iBook both Safari and Mail refuse to start, and have folders as icons.

thanx for the warning! seems like my iBook got to wait for the update..

[DrK]

I just installed the security update and Safari no longer launches. I just get a dialog saying "The application Safari quit unexpectedly."

I set up another user to see if it was my settings. Same problem.

What can I do?? I don't want to reinstall Tiger and all my apps - it's too much hassle!

[Abstract]

12" rev b PB ==> no problem here. I can't tell if it feels quicker, but I feel safer.

I hate when people say they "think" their system is quicker after an OSX update. I can never tell. It's all in people's heads or something. And then they change their reply from "Opening apps is faster," or "My system boots a bit faster," or "Safari is definitely faster," to something a bit less exciting, like "My system feels zippier," which we all know is bulls***. :o

Am I right?

[munkle]

I just installed the security update and Safari no longer launches. I just get a dialog saying "The application Safari quit unexpectedly."

I set up another user to see if it was my settings. Same problem.

What can I do?? I don't want to reinstall Tiger and all my apps - it's too much hassle!

Have you got any third party apps installed?

[neutrino23]

I just installed the security update and Safari no longer launches. I just get a dialog saying "The application Safari quit unexpectedly."

I set up another user to see if it was my settings. Same problem.

What can I do?? I don't want to reinstall Tiger and all my apps - it's too much hassle!

Suggestions:
repair permissions
check the hard drive (either boot the install CD and use the disk utility or boot and hold down command S and use fsck)
Sometimes just restarting helps.
Download the update and rerun it.

If you do an archive and install you don't have to reinstall your apps. It is pretty painless.

[Phat_Pat]

hmmm.... my update seems to be working great :)

[rawlangs]

This update pissed me off badly enough to register with the forums.
I logged onto my computer (eMac, 1.25ghz, 512mb). Logged on, booted Safari, Mail, iTunes, Adium. All fine. When I installed the security update, Safari, Mail and Software update no longer started. Adium no longer loads plugins. Upon reinstall, Safari still does not start. Upon reinstall of updater, everything is still broken. Upon repairing permissions, everything still remains broken.
I run 10.3.9, completely up to date. The system is pretty much unmodified, except I have it running Growl, but it's also broken.
I'm going to run the 10.3.9 updater again and update to Security Update 006. Hopefully this will fix my problem. I have no idea what exactly has gone wrong, but it looks like the Security Update from my standpoint.

[Applespider]

It literally DECIMATED my PowerBook. DECIMATED.

It literally didn't decimate your Powerbook - you didn't lose every tenth app after all.

Sorry to hear that you had problems for no apparent reason if your apps were all where they should be. Had you been using Tinkertool or any of the other OS X modding apps?

[Abstract]

Why did we get 3 pages of very few complaints, and then we get a barrage of errors happening on Page 4 of this thread? :confused:

Anyway, I'm now going to wait. I have a backup HD, but even if I don't lose my data, I'm not going to reinstall all my software and play with all the settings again. I'm not going to spend any time doing all the necessary things to get this system running the way it is right now if waiting another few days means that I get a properly fixed security update.

[Darwin]

iBook rebooted fine...dang, I'll never make it past 28 days uptime:

I was on a roll with 31 days, but I guess its back to zero now :p :(

[greatdevourer]

I had to spend an entire 15min trying to get my Aqua skins back up!

[Dagless]

I had a problem. As my G5 shut down, the finder all went away, I was left with no mouse pointed and just my wallpaper. Had to manual shut down my system (i.e. with a sledgehammer). Upon restarting, apple chime chimed, but the screen remained blank. Left it for 2 minutes, no change. Reboot - screen blank for longer than normal, although that could've been my heart-pounding perception, but then everything was happy and normal.

This has been the worst catastrophy to befall my G5. :D

melon monkey! thats been happening to, and i haven't installed this update yet! the PC guy in me wants to say this could be a virus. but hmmm?

i click shutdown, wait a while. everything fades out to blue. no mouse or dock or anything. wait... nothing happens. fan goes quiet. ive waited about 10 minutes and it wasn't working. had to bring out my sledgehammer here.

then the boot up! it just paused on a blank screen. fans screaming away... had to sledgehammer it again and it came on fine then.

HMM!

[dukeblue91]

Installed on 3 systems without a hiccup :D
Thank you Apple.

[devman]

FWIW.

Applied on 2 iBooks, 1 PB, 1 PowerMac and to Tiger Server on a Mac Mini - all with no problems at all. 1 more iBook to go...

[munkle]

FWIW.

Applied on 2 iBooks, 1 PB, 1 PowerMac and to Tiger Server on a Mac Mini - all with no problems at all. 1 more iBook to go...

You're just showing off! :p

[Mac_Freak]

Everything is working for me. Except that I had to restart my router for some reason becouse it wouldn't connect to the internet, but now its all fine.

[JW Pepper]

Some people have problems, well I am not interested in those who are having problems if they have installed hacks. What I would like to know is what versions of Panther or Tiger are affected.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Apple doesn't name them that way anymore. 2005-007 just simply means "the seventh update of the year"I know, and that's why I put the :p in the post in the first place, and specified it a bit later in my next post... :rolleyes:

Go back and look... ;)

[peterj1967]

It always amazes me to read about people who update their systems, have issues and then need to rebuild from zero.

It's always good to have a solid working backup plan, it's cheap and it saves you loads of time.

This is mine.

- One External Firewire Hard Drive (in my case a LaCie 80 gig)
- Before updating, repair permissions and then use Carbon Copy Cloner or another shareware application which will make a bootable copy of your system files and everything else.
- Update your system

Now you have an updated system and you have a copy of what your system was. If the update craps out (which I have never had happen) you can boot from the bootable copy of your system restore back to what you had and you're back in business.

Spend a little time and money have a solid backup plan and stick by it. It makes your life much much much much more simple.

And…

Test your back up plan on occasion to make sure it is doing what you think it is. A little prevention saves you volumes of work down the road.

My update ran fine, the weather is nicer, I feel healthier, luckier and I am sure Safari will be ass loads faster when I get home from work today! :-)

[~Shard~]

I hate when people say they "think" their system is quicker after an OSX update. I can never tell. It's all in people's heads or something. And then they change their reply from "Opening apps is faster," or "My system boots a bit faster," or "Safari is definitely faster," to something a bit less exciting, like "My system feels zippier," which we all know is bulls***. :o

Am I right?

I think there's an aspect of truth to what you are saying. I rationalize it by saying that when many people do these updates, they Repair Permissions first, then reboot, install, and then possibly Repair Permissions and reboot again - so of course your system is going to appear faster after a cleaning like that, especially if you've been running it for a few days/weeks/months solid!

[za9ra22]

Installed the security update on my 1999-vintage G4 sawtooth - which runs 10.4.2 and has been 'upgraded' with additional ATI 7000 64Mb PCI video card, Pioneer 104 superdrive and Mercury 1GHz G4 upgrade. Prompt shutdown and reboot after install and all is well.

I can't say I expected any different since I have never really had any issues after an update. But given this system is a bit non-standard, I couldn't help but cross my fingers!

[ijimk]

Security is a good thing. Glad to see apple is still keeping up to date.

[Xenious]

Dual 2.5 G5 running Tiger 10.4.2, good to go. No applications issues so far. Permissions repair after the install only fixed up something in the Widget library folder.

[DrK]

Suggestions:
repair permissions
check the hard drive (either boot the install CD and use the disk utility or boot and hold down command S and use fsck)
Sometimes just restarting helps.
Download the update and rerun it.

If you do an archive and install you don't have to reinstall your apps. It is pretty painless.

Thanks for the advice. I'm trying it now.

[DrK]

Thanks for the advice. I'm trying it now.

After an "install and archive" it's working!! Thanks neutrino23!!

[EGT]

Update seems OKAY here. Airport signal seems much better, which is strange ...

:D

[FFTT]

No problem here at all even with Unsanity Clear Dock and APE installed.

[whawho]

I've ever had a problem with an update (I don't have any hacks installed) on my powerbook. I installed the update, rebooted, and now Aqua won't load. It boots up and I get a termial window. That's it. I can log in, but no GUI. It's weird, I've tried a few things, repaired permissions, etc., without success. I will try a few more things tonight, but I may have to re-install the OS, bummer.

[wdlove]

Always happy to see Apple keeping our security in the forefront. Thank you Apple.

[fanbrain]

I installed the update and my G5 wouldn't shut down. I had to push and hold the power button to shut it down. Hmmm... An ideas?

[~Shard~]

I did the update and now my t-shirts come out cleaner in the wash. Thanks Apple! :p

[achmafooma]

No problems on my Power Mac G4 (733mhz). After installing on my iBook G3 (500mhz), it wouldn't start back up. I got a blank gray screen (with no Apple on it).

I just started with 'Option' held down, reiterated what I wanted for my boot drive, and then things went back to normal (even after further reboots).

A little weird, but nothing too major. Everything else seems fine.

[dernhelm]

All is happy on my PB!

[morespce54]

SWEET! been waiting for this, will D/L when I get home!

hopfully, this will fix the iPhoto issue... :confused: kidding! :D :D

[hob]

I've ever had a problem with an update (I don't have any hacks installed) on my powerbook. I installed the update, rebooted, and now Aqua won't load. It boots up and I get a termial window. That's it. I can log in, but no GUI. It's weird, I've tried a few things, repaired permissions, etc., without success. I will try a few more things tonight, but I may have to re-install the OS, bummer.
Actually, this happened to me a few days ago. No matter what I tried I couldn't get aqua up. My hard disk was in a bad way, couldn't repair so had to re-format and reinstall. (Could still pull on the necessary files off though :confused: )

[Arnaud]

Went all fine with my iMac G5 1.8GHz, nothing weird after restarting.

I'd say it's wizzier, but it might be just an impression, and nobody likes this kind of comments here :p
Anyway, I reformatted/reinstalled everything last week-end, and everything is faster...

The backup comments are not useless.
I've dedicated a 80Gb hard drive for that (which is most of the time at my work, so that the computer AND the backup cannot be stolen together ! Or really unlucky day...)
I'll fix up a copy of the system, because resetting everything step by step is kinda boring...

A.

(PS: The backup-paranoia appeared with the digital camera; I don't mind (too much) losing my iTunes library, but I can't think about losing my photos...)

[Doctor Q]

Why did we get 3 pages of very few complaints, and then we get a barrage of errors happening on Page 4 of this thread? :confused:If everyone installs starting when the update is released, you'd naturally expect people who sail through it to finish, and post, before the people who run into roadblocks.

We don't know for certain that the users having problems after this update wouldn't have had the same problems if they had done a shutdown and restart, even if they had not installed the Security Update. I'm not saying that's the case, just that we don't know. Sometimes latent problems that occur while the system is running show up only when you restart. I wonder if it would be a good habit in general to restart a Mac and make sure things look fine (your regular applications are there and work fine) before installing a Mac OS X update, to separate the two types of problems.

[njmac]

I hate when people say they "think" their system is quicker after an OSX update. I can never tell. It's all in people's heads or something. And then they change their reply from "Opening apps is faster," or "My system boots a bit faster," or "Safari is definitely faster," to something a bit less exciting, like "My system feels zippier," which we all know is bulls***. :o

Am I right?

I think so. I could never tell either. I think I would only notice if an update gave a considerable slow down to my computer. All good here:)

[whawho]

Actually, this happened to me a few days ago. No matter what I tried I couldn't get aqua up. My hard disk was in a bad way, couldn't repair so had to re-format and reinstall. (Could still pull on the necessary files off though :confused: )

If I can't get it fixed, I'll boot into FireWire Target Disk Mode (hopefully) and pull all the files off that way.

[SiliconAddict]

I totally agree. I keep my computer very organized, photos go in iPhoto, movies go in movie section, all my apps are in applications. I don't add a lot of third party stuff so I think that helps as well. I have never had a problem with any system or security update ( except for the fact that they disabled a lot of G5's like my iMac from hosting a multi-video conference in 10.4.1 and 10.4.2).


*shrugs* I've come to the conclusion that its pure chance. Everyone keeps bitching about Windows when in fact I have 5 windows XP/2000/Server 2003 systems in my home and I NEVER get any problems. Yet just yesterday a friend found that Windows isn't holding reg values anymore and some of the changes he makes to his system doesn't stick on reboot.

I think its all about the user and how they manage their system. *shrugs* Whatever.

[artifex]

It's not showing up in my SU, could a "hacked" Safari cause this?



The -007 doesn't mean 7th month, just that it's the 7th update this year.

Actually, it denotes the spyware edition :)

(cue "Secret Agent Man")

[artifex]

I was on a roll with 31 days, but I guess its back to zero now :p :(

We have too many thunderstorms here in Dallas for me to get uptimes that long, so far. Maybe I'll dig out my old UPS.

Also, my mac mini seems to be fine after the update. I don't move my apps (they're in the app folder already, come on) and I prefer FireFox and Thunderbird to Safari and Mail, anyway. And many of the updates don't apply anyway unless you're running Server or some other version I'm not running, which is 10.4.2...

[artifex]

*shrugs* I've come to the conclusion that its pure chance. Everyone keeps bitching about Windows when in fact I have 5 windows XP/2000/Server 2003 systems in my home and I NEVER get any problems. Yet just yesterday a friend found that Windows isn't holding reg values anymore and some of the changes he makes to his system doesn't stick on reboot.

I think its all about the user and how they manage their system. *shrugs* Whatever.

Your friend may want to check his hard drive for errors...

[rawlangs]

In the end I tried installing the 10.3.9 updater again, nothing happeded. My final solution was to reinstall from my 10.3.2 DVDs. I spent most of the morning updating everything.
That backup strategy with the 80 gig external is sounding better and better...

[jcrowe]

I had no problem with 10.3.8...


Holy crap. I thought that my 13 day record was something to be proud of... :eek:

I haven't had any problem with this update. Glad it fixed a lot of buffer errors...
My company in one of its former incantations provided a fault tolerant UNIX platform used in the telephony area. The uptime counter was a 32 bit unsigned integer that measured the number of "ticks" (1/100th of a second) since the last reboot. The problem is that the systems were up continuously so long (for years actually) that it caused the uptime counter to roll over. Not a bad reliability problem to have, eh? What a hoot....

[ohcrap]

My company in one of its former incantations provided a fault tolerant UNIX platform used in the telephony area. The uptime counter was a 32 bit unsigned integer that measured the number of "ticks" (1/100th of a second) since the last reboot. The problem is that the systems were up continuously so long (for years actually) that it caused the uptime counter to roll over. Not a bad reliability problem to have, eh? What a hoot....
So, wait. One "tick" equals one millisecond?

[Muzukun]

ummm I'm having problems with this, it's stuck on optimizing system performance, I can't back up any files (Even though all the files I care about are on the external anyways) I can't access the external drive, and I can't quit the program... Should I restart and pray?

[SiliconAddict]

Your friend may want to check his hard drive for errors...


Been there did that read the book. :) I think a windows update FUBARed the thing. He's getting a new puter in about 3 months anyways. Holding out until then. The current system is kinda sketchy to begin with. Kinda a home brewed hacked together job.

[StarbucksSam]

It literally didn't decimate your Powerbook - you didn't lose every tenth app after all.

Sorry to hear that you had problems for no apparent reason if your apps were all where they should be. Had you been using Tinkertool or any of the other OS X modding apps?

I stopped experimenting and playing around after I almost killed my Performa 6400 when I was seven years old. I haven't done anything that would cause this - it was totally not good. I'm about to install that SAME update again. Wish me better luck.

[Azadre]

This breaks Mathematica 5.2 on G5s...

[bronkowitz]

After installing 2005-007, the following Java problem turned up:

> java -version
HotSpot not at correct virtual address. Sharing disabled.
java version "1.5.0_02"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-56)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_02-36, mixed mode)

I use java every day and this was definitely not happening before. It doesn't actually break Java, since class sharing is just an optimisation, but it is annoying.

An inspection of the JavaVM.framework directory seems to indicate there was a Java modification in the security update:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 38K Aug 16 09:57 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/JavaVM*

Aug 16 09:57 is of course the exact time at which I installed the update.

BTW, no, I do not have any third-party OS X mods.

Anyone else get this behaviour?

[matticus008]

So, wait. One "tick" equals one millisecond?

10 milliseconds...

[zflauaus]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?
Well, the only reason I wait is because.... I'm on a dial-up connection. Oh well. You know what the sad thing is? My grandma has DSL. But then again, she lives in town. To grandmas house!

[galfenol]

I just received a helpful email from the tech support people at Wolfram Research advising me not to install 2005-007 on my G5, because it prevents 64-bit-native apps like Mathematica 5.2 from running. They had a work around script developed which could rescue someone who had already done the deed. The script temporarily disables the 64 bit capability of Mathematica.
This was good timing for me, as I was just about to update my G5, which is only used for Mathematica. The update works fine on my Powerbook G4, except for Sherlock, which lost my stocks and switched to German.

[arrowoods]

Just downloaded the update on my 1.5 powerbook 17" and all seems perfect. I always repair permissions twice and then restart and do it again. Then update. Call me crazy but I have never had any problems with updates so I will stick with my routine. :) Hope all is as smooth for everyone else.

[toph1285]

i don't know if this is related to the update but here's what happened: i went to software update, selected download only for the update, opened it in the packages folder, installed it, restarted and here's where things started to suck. when i restarted i got to the grey screen with the apple and the spinning start up thing. and then it just sat there, and sat there, and sat there. i tried waiting an hour, but to no avail. i finally had to reinstall mac os x from the tiger cd. (archive and install of course) and then i got my computer back and running. i still haven't installed the update since, and i'm not sure i'm ready. hope this doesn't happen to you but just be warned

[MegaSignal]

Sounds like 2005-008 will be on its way shortly...

[kalisphoenix]

*shrugs* I've come to the conclusion that its pure chance. Everyone keeps bitching about Windows when in fact I have 5 windows XP/2000/Server 2003 systems in my home and I NEVER get any problems. Yet just yesterday a friend found that Windows isn't holding reg values anymore and some of the changes he makes to his system doesn't stick on reboot.

I think its all about the user and how they manage their system. *shrugs* Whatever.

I do too -- except I think the odds are against you with Windows. For instance: the other day, WindowsXP (fiancee's machine) auto-updated itself into a non-bootable state. Fine... so I took the spare HD out of my B&W, switched cables, installed Windows XP on the G3's drive. I then copied all of the files from her account over to the spare hard drive, took the original hard drive out and stuck it in the G3.

So, just to clarify, this is exactly what occured:
1. Switched current hard drive to slave, installed new hard drive as master.
2. Installed Windows XP. With attendant reboots, as necessary.
3. Copied files.
4. Powered down computer, removed slave drive, moved it to G3.
5. Booted PC.

So what greets me upon startup? XP no longer has icons in Explorer when in the double-pane mode (ie, when I right-click "Start" and press "Explore"). No icons anywhere in explorer. Even the titlebar doesn't have them. However, it behaves normally if I right-click "Start" and press "Open." (Note that Windows doesn't have native drivers for her wireless lan card, so it wasn't on the 'net yet)

Windows still operated fine, so I transferred the drivers over, installed them, rebooted (problem persisted). Only after installing SP2 did the problem resolve itself.

Weird.

[ajampam]

Sounds like 2005-008 will be on its way shortly...
Ha ha...well said....I installed the update and have not had any issues YET....but lets see....if it is having so many issues the next update should well be on its way! :o

[After G]

For those who get terminal prompts .... have you tried typing "exit" at the prompt? It sounds fairly obvious, but I remember being surprised at this when I got dropped off at a black and white screen once.

[aegisdesign]

Remember 10.3.8?
Remember 10.2.8?
Remember FireWire800 problems?
Remember...

There have been times when it was good not to be the first to update...
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Paranoia isn't just a way of life, it's a good idea.


I never had any problems with those and I imagine most people didn't either. IME it's the people that hack about with their system or are running cruddy 3rd party hardware that have problems. Stick to quality kit from the major companies like Apple, Lacie, HP etc and you rarely get any problems.

[jicon]

It is kind of a nice that Apple test their own OS for holes, rather than waiting for hackers to find them; unlike Microsoft. :D

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302163

From what I've read from Apple's description of what was fixed, and what I read on TechNet, I'd say both companies rely just as much on third parties to make the company aware of holes in its OS.

These particular security updates have had many in academic circles and elsewhere point out flaws in the Mac OS.

[Apple Corps]

This^%#@#@()*&&^ security has completely shut down my dual 1.8 G5 - what a mess - this is my main computer for the business. It will not wake up from sleep - I powered it off - then on - cursor shows up but nothing on the desk top - not even my standard Apple screen - no icons. WTF have you done Apple????????????

[Loge]

I just received a helpful email from the tech support people at Wolfram Research advising me not to install 2005-007 on my G5, because it prevents 64-bit-native apps like Mathematica 5.2 from running. They had a work around script developed which could rescue someone who had already done the deed. The script temporarily disables the 64 bit capability of Mathematica.

I had the same e-mail, my system is a G4 though. I'll not be installing it though as it seems that Apple will need to issue a revised update very soon.

[serralves]

This security update was brilliant for me! Ever since I've upgraded to tiger, using ssh on terminal to access my uni files has taken ages to connect... now it's super speedy!

[CUBUFF]

This update is not flawed!!!!!! Now my dual G4 will not wake after sleep. Additionally, my mouse/keyboard will stop working unexpectedly. What's up with Apple software? :mad:

[broken_keyboard]

I just received a helpful email from the tech support people at Wolfram Research advising me not to install 2005-007 on my G5, because it prevents 64-bit-native apps like Mathematica 5.2 from running.

Wow. That's a pretty embarrasing stuff up...

[danvdr]

Installed the update yesterday. System seems to be stable, but Safari seems to have slowed down quite a bit.

[JonMaker]

It's all good here on my new iBook G4. :cool:

[mkrishnan]

Installed the update yesterday. System seems to be stable, but Safari seems to have slowed down quite a bit.

Try resetting Safari from the Safari menu. You will have to re-log into sites that use cookies, etc, but it often fixes this kind of thing.

[mkrishnan]

Wow. That's a pretty embarrasing stuff up...

*giggles* I thought they can just check a box and they would be good all the way till Mactels? Whoulda thunk? :eek: :( :D

[zwida]

I never had any problems with those and I imagine most people didn't either. IME it's the people that hack about with their system or are running cruddy 3rd party hardware that have problems. Stick to quality kit from the major companies like Apple, Lacie, HP etc and you rarely get any problems.

While I understand what you'r saying and mostly agree, that Firewire 800 issue was totally screwed up. Everyone admitted that Apple's update was cooking external HDs, even those of quality manufacture.

But, yeah, in general, quality peripherals should make updates easier to digest.

[Whyren]

Latest Mac OS X Security Update breaks 64-bit application support. (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1236)

[sososowhat]

I installed the update on my powerbook & imac yesterday. My Powermac was booted into 10.3.9 so I could connect to work using Cisco VPN.

This morning, the network's down. From the desktops, nothing. From the Powerbook I get this message saying I've got a "Blaster Type Virus" (see below). I have no Windows machines on the network (though a friend did connect wirelessly yesterday). I didn't think Mac's got Viruses!

Also: rebooting the Powermac into 10.4 didn't help anything.


Excessive Sessions Warning
Error

Your OfficePortal 1800HG has intercepted your web page request to provide you with this important message. The following devices on your network are using a large number of simultaneous Internet sessions:

Downstairs-G5

The most likely cause of this issue is a “blaster” type virus which has infected the device. It is strongly recommended that the devices above be scanned for potential viruses.

Note that a large number of sessions may occasionally be the result of application software or gaming software installed on the device. If you believe this is the case, click the “Do not show me excessive session warnings in the future” to disable this feature.

To access the requested Web page that was intercepted, please close all browser windows and then restart your Web browser software.

If you continue to see this page after closing all open Web browser windows, restart your computer.

Do not show me excessive session warnings in the future

[feyd_ehway]

jayson is my hero ... no reloading software ... no lost info ... jayson is my hero

[shumster]

Just installed it on my Powerbook - things are running really slow.

After the restart, loaded up Mail, Safari and iPhoto, all apps stopped responding and had a system hang. Waited, and my screen saver kicked in, but when I pressed a key to log back in, no response.

Tried a powercycle, and after logging in, by the time I'd flossed and brushed (electric toothbrush with a 2 minute timer, which I see through to the end), my desktop had still to appear.

And my hard drive is spinning like crazy.

Aah, it seems to be have calmed down a little bit...

[sososowhat]

This continues to be weird:
a) I get the same message with both desktops powered off. ie, it says that one of them has too many open sessions.

b) I only get this message on the powerbook when it's connected wirelessly. If I plug an ethernet cable into the DSL modem things work fine.

c) re-booting the DSL modem doesn't help

I don't know that this is at all related to yesterday's security update, but any suggestions would be welcome.

[MacinDoc]

I installed the update on my powerbook & imac yesterday. My Powermac was booted into 10.3.9 so I could connect to work using Cisco VPN.

This morning, the network's down. From the desktops, nothing. From the Powerbook I get this message saying I've got a "Blaster Type Virus" (see below). I have no Windows machines on the network (though a friend did connect wirelessly yesterday). I didn't think Mac's got Viruses!

Also: rebooting the Powermac into 10.4 didn't help anything.


Excessive Sessions Warning
Error

Your OfficePortal 1800HG has intercepted your web page request to provide you with this important message. The following devices on your network are using a large number of simultaneous Internet sessions:

Downstairs-G5

The most likely cause of this issue is a “blaster” type virus which has infected the device. It is strongly recommended that the devices above be scanned for potential viruses.

Note that a large number of sessions may occasionally be the result of application software or gaming software installed on the device. If you believe this is the case, click the “Do not show me excessive session warnings in the future” to disable this feature.

To access the requested Web page that was intercepted, please close all browser windows and then restart your Web browser software.

If you continue to see this page after closing all open Web browser windows, restart your computer.

Do not show me excessive session warnings in the future
Sounds like a message I sometimes get on my Windows servers at work. I know that many major Windows servers were down yesterday as a result of a very nasty virus with multiple variants. Are you running Windows or Virtual PC anywhere on your network?

[guez]

I find it funny that people think they need to wait and see if anybody's machine explodes, or dies or whatever.. I have never had a single issue with a security update, or OS update for that matter. If you have a reasonably well maintained machine, you should have nothing to worry about. Don't you think?

I have a new term that I would like to introduce: "meism". "Meism" is defined as "denying problems encountered by others on the premise that they have not affected oneself."

Examples:

1) "I don't care how much Macs cost. Daddy buys them for me."

2) "I don't care whether Apple drops support for G3/non-USB Macs/OS 9. I don't use them."

3) "I don't care how unintuitive <insert interface issue here> is. I'm a superuser who uses the Unix shell."

And so on...

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

...
Also: rebooting the Powermac into 10.4 didn't help anything.


Excessive Sessions Warning
Error

Your OfficePortal 1800HG has intercepted your web page request to provide you with this important message. The following devices on your network are using a large number of simultaneous Internet sessions:

Downstairs-G5
...

Note that a large number of sessions may occasionally be the result of application software or gaming software installed on the device. If you believe this is the case, click the “Do not show me excessive session warnings in the future” to disable this feature. ...Just a thought. Do you have several Dashboard Widgets (that might connect to the internet upon start) and maybe some other apps like Meteorologist which depends on internet access, and maybe even a couple of applications checking for updates on startup...? In other words just a normal Tiger startup... that a Windows server thinks is just too much...

[mkrishnan]

Just a thought. Do you have several Dashboard Widgets (that might connect to the internet upon start) and maybe some other apps like Meteorologist which depends on internet access, and maybe even a couple of applications checking for updates on startup...? In other words just a normal Tiger startup... that a Windows server thinks is just too much...

Also, did you ever do the hack that boosted the number of sessions that Safari used when loading a page, to speed it up?

I wonder... I actually don't know exactly how DB works. Do DB apps pipe requests for the net through a central DB app (so that it only uses one session or a pre-allotted number), or does each widget have its own session?

[asmith]

Java doesnt work at all for me after the security update...

% java
Error: no known VMs. (check for corrupt jvm.cfg file)

The permissions are wrong on jvm.cfg. Here's what you need to do to fix it.

cd /Library/Java/Home/lib
su root
chmod o+r jvm.cfg

[sososowhat]

Just a thought. Do you have several Dashboard Widgets (that might connect to the internet upon start) and maybe some other apps like Meteorologist which depends on internet access, and maybe even a couple of applications checking for updates on startup...? In other words just a normal Tiger startup... that a Windows server thinks is just too much...

Really not running much of anything, and there is no Windows server (just the 2Wire DSL Gateway). I'm thinking now it's a problem with the 2Wire, not the macs. With both desktops powered down, the router still says there are too many connections to one of the powered-down machines. I can only connect using the powerbook using an ethernet cable. Using Airport I get the error message & no net connection. Rebooting the router doesn't clear the "open connections" to the powered-down Mac. Any idea how to do that?

[autrefois]

I have a new term that I would like to introduce: "meism". "Meism" is defined as "denying problems encountered by others on the premise that they have not affected oneself."

Examples:

1) "I don't care how much Macs cost. Daddy buys them for me."

2) "I don't care whether Apple drops support for G3/non-USB Macs/OS 9. I don't use them."

3) "I don't care how unintuitive <insert interface issue here> is. I'm a superuser who uses the Unix shell."

And so on...

Sounds like a good -ism to me. There are always people who say they've never had problems with Mac OS X updates, so it must be something the user did that caused the problem. This happens for every update.

I suppose this update breaking 64-bit application support is somehow the fault of those who have G5s. "If you had a G4 or ran only 32-bit apps, you wouldn't have this problem, you silly G5 user!"

[Fredo Viola]

Is this why Logic keeps crashing on me since doing the update? Does that make sense? It really never crashed before. Now multiple times a day. And my mouse has been acting funny. :(

[Don.Key]

Now I am completely pissed.

I purchased a Mini + tigre as a replacement for my dell machine to run applications in 64 bit speed, and what happens? Apple falls back to 32bit.

Thanks, so now I have a box which runs at 1/2 speed.

I will demand a refund. Never again apple, not with me!

[Fredo Viola]

take it easy, dude.

[Doctor Q]

Now I am completely pissed.

I purchased a Mini + tigre as a replacement for my dell machine to run applications in 64 bit speed, and what happens? Apple falls back to 32bit.

Thanks, so now I have a box which runs at 1/2 speed.

I will demand a refund. Never again apple, not with me!Assuming the reports are correct that Apple broke 64-bit apps, Apple will soon issue an update-update to fix it.

[RJBStudio]

I installed the latest Security Update 2005-007 this morning on my Mac G4 running OSX 10.3.9 and now iTunes will not launch. I pitched the preferences, repaired disk permissions and restarted but no luck. When the system asks if I want to send an error report to Apple, it returns the following info to be sent:

Date/Time: 2005-08-17 17:33:48 -0400
OS Version: 10.3.9 (Build 7W98)
Report Version: 2

Command: iTunes
Path: /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunes
Version: 4.9 (4.9)
PID: 437
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x054b9000

thread info, etc, etc....


Does anyone have any suggestions how I can fix it?

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Now I am completely pissed.

I purchased a Mini + tigre as a replacement for my dell machine to run applications in 64 bit speed, and what happens? Apple falls back to 32bit.

Thanks, so now I have a box which runs at 1/2 speed.

I will demand a refund. Never again apple, not with me!64 bit is not twice as fast as 32 bit... :rolleyes:

It's just the size of the registers, making it possible to address more RAM and add bigger numbers in fewer operations (and, on Macs, faster bus). In everyday use, with average applications you will NOT get any (noticeable) difference in speed on a G4 (32 bit) and a G5 (64 bit) processor running at similar clock frequencies...

Edit: And the Mini (just as the portables and the eMac) has never been 64 bit...

[Voiteur]

I had a problem. As my G5 shut down, the finder all went away, I was left with no mouse pointed and just my wallpaper. Had to manual shut down my system (i.e. with a sledgehammer). Upon restarting, apple chime chimed, but the screen remained blank. Left it for 2 minutes, no change. Reboot - screen blank for longer than normal, although that could've been my heart-pounding perception, but then everything was happy and normal.

This has been the worst catastrophy to befall my G5. :D

LOOK OUT!!!!


I have an iMac G5 rev A 1.8Ghz-
updated security update/ sleeplight and itunes together... and within a few hours I lost my finder completely with a blank desktop. Had to hard shutdown/restart- several times but never got finder back. During these restarts I noticed a long pause as it loaded Shake Qmaster--- Hardware test revealed a harddrive error code.
Reinstalled the OS w/ disc and got the finder back... Safari and Firefox had to be reinstalled in order to work properly.
Everything seems okay now but i am staying away from that update- I wasted an entire day on it and almost lost my harddrive.

[Apple Corps]

DITTO DITTO DITTO - what a mess. A call to Apple tech support yielded the usual "we have not heard of any problem" response :mad:

This is a serious screw up on Apple's part - more and more starting to feel like Windows - where is the QC BEFORE this type of cr@p is released? Like you, a day of wasted time - my rev.B dual 1.8 now runs slow with various force quits now being required on various applications.

Plss poor performance Apple - the geniuses that unleashed this one should be promoted to Redmond - get them the hell out of Cupertino :eek:

[billyboy]

I noticed how long it takes my Powerbook to restart after it has been up for a couple of weeks. Amazing that it puts everything in its place but I wish the thing would go through to the end UNLESS the user abandons the restart process. After a couple of useful prompts to force quit apps, IE surprise surprise, it just gives up and you have to do all that hard work of hitting Restart buttons!!

[Noiseboy]

Just as a note, my system is running as well as it ever did after installing the security update. It seems, as ever, some people have grief but the majority are OK.

[mkrishnan]

64 bit is not twice as fast as 32 bit... :rolleyes:

Oh, how hard did I bite my tongue on that one. :D

[illustratorDavi]

I've just installed the latest update - the fixer update version 1.1

My cpu temperature has jumped from 28c to 45c

A bit worrying but should be ok - it a hot day

Thanks
David

[Savage Henry]

My ISP has nuked my broadband for the last week, which has meant I have not been able to get this update.

The kind of problems I've been reading about are easily the sort I could quite possible have suffered from.

[Le Big Mac]

Or so says apple:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mc/20050818/tc_mc/securityupdate200500711fixes64bitsupport

(Security Update 2005-7 1.1)

[Fredo Viola]

This is just for Tiger users!

[~Shard~]

Or so says apple:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mc/20050818/tc_mc/securityupdate200500711fixes64bitsupport

(Security Update 2005-7 1.1)

Hopefully this will address all the issues Tiger users have been having with this update. Being on Panther, I guess this is a non-issue for me.

[Fredo Viola]

I am on Panther and have been having these issues.

[Arnaud]

This is just for Tiger users!

I'm not so sure :

- Security Update 2005-007 v1.1 replaces Security Update 2005-007 v1.0 for Mac OS X v10.4.2.
- Users who have already installed v1.0 on Tiger systems should install v1.1, according to notes accompanying the update.

Couldn't that mean that
- 1) the security updates are ok for OSX 10.4.2,
- 2) if you did install the fix 1.0 on your Tiger system, then you should install Update 1.1 in a special way described in the notes (like erasing youself half your HD) ?

Isn't the Fix 1.1 available from SU by now, for OSX 10.4.2 users ?
(I'll check that home later).

[devman]

After installing 2005-007, the following Java problem turned up:

> java -version
HotSpot not at correct virtual address. Sharing disabled.
java version "1.5.0_02"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-56)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_02-36, mixed mode)

I use java every day and this was definitely not happening before. It doesn't actually break Java, since class sharing is just an optimisation, but it is annoying.

An inspection of the JavaVM.framework directory seems to indicate there was a Java modification in the security update:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 38K Aug 16 09:57 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/JavaVM*

Aug 16 09:57 is of course the exact time at which I installed the update.

BTW, no, I do not have any third-party OS X mods.

Anyone else get this behaviour?

No, but I hadn't installed the 1.5 version...

$ java -version
java version "1.4.2_07"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_07-215)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-50, mixed mode)

[~Shard~]

I am on Panther and have been having these issues.

Ah, I see - I thought it might be only Tiger. I'll pay close attention to things then when I install...

[Quartz Extreme]

the geniuses that unleashed this one should be promoted to Redmond

I think you mean demoted!

[Arnaud]

Installed the Security Update 1.0 a couple of days ago, and the Security Update 1.1 yesterday evening.

So far, all fine on the iMac G5 - but I haven't tried any 64-bits application. :o

A.

[wdlove]

I just finished installing the Security Update 1.0. My software updater said the I'm now up to date. Also finished with Run Repair Permissions. All is well. :)

[~Shard~]

I just finished installing the Security Update 1.0. My software updater said the I'm now up to date. Also finished with Run Repair Permissions. All is well. :)

You will still need to run 1.1 though, no?

[wdlove]

You will still need to run 1.1 though, no?

When I clicked on the software update again after a restart, message said "You are up to date.

[mkrishnan]

When I clicked on the software update again after a restart, message said "You are up to date.

Are you sure you didn't get 1.1? I thought they pulled 1.0 when 1.1 was released, so that you would not have been able to get it this weekend via software update, wdlove....

[~Shard~]

When I clicked on the software update again after a restart, message said "You are up to date.

Interesting. Well, if the Software Update says so, I guess you're good to go then. :)

[ohcrap]

OK, I installed this a week or so ago and now it's back in the Software Update. Can someone tell me why? Should I install it again? Perhaps I installed 1.0 the first time? Is there a way to check? Thanks!

[~Shard~]

OK, I installed this a week or so ago and now it's back in the Software Update. Can someone tell me why? Should I install it again? Perhaps I installed 1.0 the first time? Is there a way to check? Thanks!

If it was the 1.1 version it would say so, so I'm not sure why it would appear again. The initial install went fine, no issues, and you rebooted and everything afterwards like you were supposed to? If so, I'm not sure why it would reappear, I've never had that happen before...

[ohcrap]

If it was the 1.1 version it would say so, so I'm not sure why it would appear again. The initial install went fine, no issues, and you rebooted and everything afterwards like you were supposed to? If so, I'm not sure why it would reappear, I've never had that happen before...
Yes, everything went fine the first time around, per Post #33 of this thread. I never look at the version numbers really, so I don't know if it was 1.0 the first time or not. :confused:

So, should I install it again, do you think?

[ohcrap]

I checked my Software Update log and it turns out that I had installed 1.0 the first time, so I installed 1.1 and all has been well so far. Hope I don't experience any of the problems some of you have. :)

[Idus]

(..)After install, my Sony superdrive is working again!!(..)

Eh, for me the effect was quite the opposite... The Mac´s that we have updated with the 2005-007 v.1.1 cannot burn any DVD or CD on their superdrive any longer. They burn... but the data is unreadable on all our macs (and PC´s)!

Tried several softwares and made sure that the firmware on the drive is updated. The discs are high-quality and from the same batch as before the upgrade...

Why... WHY!!! We need to make backups now...

Anyone else who have had this experience and know how to fix it?? :(

...and it is pouring down outside as well... *sigh*

Anyway, keep up the good work all!!

[DJ Diktator]

Eh, for me the effect was quite the opposite... The Mac´s that we have updated with the 2005-007 v.1.1 cannot burn any DVD or CD on their superdrive any longer. They burn... but the data is unreadable on all our macs (and PC´s)!

Tried several softwares and made sure that the firmware on the drive is updated. The discs are high-quality and from the same batch as before the upgrade...

Why... WHY!!! We need to make backups now...

Anyone else who have had this experience and know how to fix it?? :(

...and it is pouring down outside as well... *sigh*

Anyway, keep up the good work all!!


I have a similar problem that (I think) occured after i installed the 1.1 update. My 1 month old iBook 12" Combodrive will NOT recognise any DVD or CD inserted! Finder won't detect it, it will not appear as an icon on the desktop and the iBook behaves like there were no CD or DVD there at all!
So... I had to restart the computer, shut it down several times and still the combo drive couldn't detect it...Finally I got it out just by using the eject button directly after the computer starts after a reboot.

I firstly detected the Combo Drive problem when i tried to burn a CD using Finder. After the finished burning Finder said the burning was unsuccessful but the CD never came out, and my iBook couldn't recognise the CD at all. Has anyone else had this problem? Do you think it is a hardware probem with my Combo Drive? I never have had any problems with it until now, I've had it for a few weeks and only third party programs i've installed are VLC, Stuffit and Mac The Ripper. Please everyone who can, help me solving this problem! Thanks ahead, Martin.

[Arnaud]

Eh, for me the effect was quite the opposite... The Mac´s that we have updated with the 2005-007 v.1.1 cannot burn any DVD or CD on their superdrive any longer. They burn... but the data is unreadable on all our macs (and PC´s)!

Tried several softwares and made sure that the firmware on the drive is updated. The discs are high-quality and from the same batch as before the upgrade...

Why... WHY!!! We need to make backups now...

Anyone else who have had this experience and know how to fix it?? :(

...and it is pouring down outside as well... *sigh*

Anyway, keep up the good work all!!

Have you (and DJDiktator) cleaned up your DVD units recently ? Maybe you should consider that.

I had some issues with my G5 (by then 6 months old), and one of the salesmen at the Apple shop advised me to do so, with regular DVD-cleaning DVDs.
WARNING: that's what he said, and it worked with my machine, but I don't know if it's supported by Apple and your possible warranty; maybe there's something about that in the books and/or help available, "how to clean your DVD unit".

[enginerd2]

I installed the update on my powerbook & imac yesterday. My Powermac was booted into 10.3.9 so I could connect to work using Cisco VPN.

This morning, the network's down. From the desktops, nothing. From the Powerbook I get this message saying I've got a "Blaster Type Virus" (see below). I have no Windows machines on the network (though a friend did connect wirelessly yesterday). I didn't think Mac's got Viruses!

Also: rebooting the Powermac into 10.4 didn't help anything.


Excessive Sessions Warning
Error

Your OfficePortal 1800HG has intercepted your web page request to provide you with this important message. The following devices on your network are using a large number of simultaneous Internet sessions:

Downstairs-G5

The most likely cause of this issue is a “blaster” type virus which has infected the device. It is strongly recommended that the devices above be scanned for potential viruses.

Note that a large number of sessions may occasionally be the result of application software or gaming software installed on the device. If you believe this is the case, click the “Do not show me excessive session warnings in the future” to disable this feature.

To access the requested Web page that was intercepted, please close all browser windows and then restart your Web browser software.

If you continue to see this page after closing all open Web browser windows, restart your computer.

Do not show me excessive session warnings in the future

****

I had the same exact warning message and I could not get to any internet site... I called apple tech support and they guided me to archive and reinstall my OS to get rid of all the security updates that were installed since i got the machine a few months ago. After an hour of that, i still could not get anything online. Decided to call up SBC DSL, which is my internet provider. The tech support guided me through their some update process, and voila! The problem is gone... I suggest you contact your internet provider directly for this problem... maybe something in the latest Security Update interfered with the software for your DSL or something... Good luck!


:)

[Idus]

(..) Have you (and DJDiktator) cleaned up your DVD units recently ? Maybe you should consider that. (..)

Well, the thing is that I am supervising a number of less-than-6-months-old-G5´s in a professional environment. And the problem consequently occurs directly after the update has done it´s job on a specific G5. It would be odd that it would "clog up" the second I apply the patch and a cleaning of the drive would fix the problem. Although if i could "clean out" the patch, I would be one happy geezer!

My summery: Apply patch 2005-007 v.1.1 = superdrive problems...

PS ...and we do have regular "cleaning" of the drive and G5 as well DS

[cal6n]

Well, I managed to get past the problem of getting stuck at the blue screen prior to login.

Initially, even with a vanilla install of Tiger and iLife 05 and then only running software update (twice) the problem recurred but, on the next erase and install, I disabled the automatic login and that seems to have sorted it, for my 17" PB.

It might also work on an archive and install, certainly worth a try if you're having this issue.

*EDIT* It's back :mad: