How often do you eat fast food?

[EJBasile]

I was driving home from work and I was like "i don't want to cook or go somewhere that will take a long time". So I went to McDonalds and I feel so sick. All I had was 6 chicken nougets and a small thing of fries.

How often do you eat fast food?

Edit: Forgot to say, the last time I had fast food must have been 3-4 months ago.

[njmac]

Very rarely. Maybe 5 or more years ago I had Burger King and it just felt like I had a lump in my stomach for the rest of the night.

If I want something quick, I'll get Chinese or Pizza. Or if I'm home and I don't want to cook, I'll just have cereal.

[devilot]

How often do you eat fast food?Too often. Realistically though, maybe two or three times a week. Wait... does pizza count?

[EJBasile]

Too often. Realistically though, maybe two or three times a week. Wait... does pizza count?
I know a good cardiactric surgeon- let me know if you need his number.

No. (well maybe Dominos- that pizza is discusting)
Subway and Dunkin' Donuts like resturants don't count either.

Fast food like McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Wendy's, Taco Bell, etc

[Lacero]

Never. All the trans-fat, heavily-processed meat and refined sugar will cause diabetes and cancer.

[MacHarne]

Haven't been to a fast food restaurant in many, many moons. I read "Fast Food Nation" within the year and saw "Super Size Me" a few weeks ago; those only further supplanted my anti-conglomerate food feelings. All organic, free-range, no-additives, natural stuff for me. Even if it means I'm not getting all of the recommended vitamin doses.

[njmac]

Haven't been to a fast food restaurant in many, many moons. I read "Fast Food Nation" within the year and saw "Super Size Me" a few weeks ago; those only further supplanted my anti-conglomerate food feelings. All organic, free-range, no-additives, natural stuff for me. Even if it means I'm not getting all of the recommended vitamin doses.

I tried to go all natural but I just couldn't afford it. I do try to buy natural/organic when I can. I buy my kids organic milk and yogurt and all natural hotdogs. But with most things I have to just go with what I can afford.

[Lacero]

Too often. Realistically though, maybe two or three times a week. Wait... does pizza count?You'd be considered a heavy user according to McDonalds. Nutritionists recommend 1-2 fast food servings a month, or none at all.

[Lacero]

I tried to go all natural but I just couldn't afford it. I do try to buy natural/organic when I can. I buy my kids organic milk and yogurt and all natural hotdogs. But with most things I have to just go with what I can afford.Speaking of which, have you decided on an avatar?

[iSaint]

Too often...3 or more times a week. All I can do is Wendy's, but that's not saying much. We try to do Subway for a somewhat healthy attempt at eating out.

[iBlue]

a lot. i'm a disgusting individual who craves this junk, and i'm perpetually lazy.
well, i eat it a lot less now but i still go for it at least once a week :p
long live the "steak" chalupa of toxic hell, errr... taco bell. :D

mmmmmmmm! </end homer simpson voice>

[njmac]

Speaking of which, have you decided on an avatar?

Well you took quite a while to pick out an avatar IIRC, so I may take my time too..... although I've had more time to think about it since I didn't join last week ;)

[Inspector Lee]

Haven't had fast food since December of '01. Does Jimmy John's count?

long live the "steak" chalupa of toxic hell, errr... taco bell

I've said it once and I'll say it again. If my streak ever collapses, I'm heading right to Bell and I'll drop $20 on a mix n match sack and eat myself sick.

[ham_man]

Whenever my Dad is doing something and can't cook. So maybe once a week or so...

[Mord]

never, would rather starve.

[EJBasile]

Some of you people should strongly consider choosing a more healthy diet.

I am seriously feeling NASTY. My body cannot handle the grease and fat and sodium and all the chemicals injected into the food there. I won't go into any more detail.

[devilot]

You'd be considered a heavy user according to McDonalds. Nutritionists recommend 1-2 fast food servings a month, or none at all.I don't get McDonald's. Examples of the fast food I hit up: I'll go to Chipotle, a plain baked potato from Wendy's, and depending on the rest of the people in my household, we might order a pizza one day. I go to Carl's Jr. maybe once a month (western bacon cheeseburger, mmm). Maybe about once a month I'll go to In-n-Out. Does Le boulanger and Togo's count?

I don't know... I don't consistently get fast food EVERY week. I do eat out everyday though, but that would be pho (Vietnamese noodles) or le boulanger. Mm.

[ravenvii]

Umm... Once every... two or three months, maybe. And only when I'm with friends, and they all wanted McD's or something. Never on my own initiative.

(No, I don't think Wendy's DELICIOUS Chicken B.L.T. salad counts... Hmmmm delicious!)

[Nanda Devi]

Haven't had any fast food in close to 5 years. I'm pretty sure if I were to eat it now it would probably make me violently ill...

I do eat Subway once in a while (usually on road trips). I suppose you could consider that fast food, but I think the presence of a deep fryer is the main thing that singles a joint out as "true" fast food... although I guess Bell doesn't have a deep fryer, and they're definitely FF (and a place I'll not set foot in again).

[iBlue]

what a buncha prisses... i understand on principle but my goodness, listen to yourselves. are you serious?
i wonder how many people here have actually almost starved and would still rather turn down a friggin BigMac :rolleyes:
go get lost in a forest (blair witch style) and you'll be praying for a mcdonalds ;)
just my $.02

[devilot]

what a buncha prisses... i understand on principle but my goodness, listen to yourselves. are you serious?
i wonder how many people here have actually almost starved and would still rather turn down a friggin BigMac :rolleyes:
go get lost in a forest (blair witch style) and you'll be praying for a mcdonalds ;)
just my $.02haha always good for a smile, that you are, iBlue. :D

[iBlue]

haha always good for a smile, that you are, iBlue. :D

i aim to please.
(i was expecting a nice saturated fat filled flame for that too, i was ever pleased to see your reply ;))

[EJBasile]

what a buncha prisses... i understand on principle but my goodness, listen to yourselves. are you serious?
i wonder how many people here have actually almost starved and would still rather turn down a friggin BigMac :rolleyes:
go get lost in a forest (blair witch style) and you'll be praying for a mcdonalds ;)
just my $.02

I would rather skip a meal than eat at McDonalds. The last time I ate there was seriously 3-4 monthes ago.

[MacAztec]

The healthiest fast food thing (i think) is:

Carl's Jr. Charbroiled BBQ Chicken Sandwich

6g fat, 40g protein, yeaaa, i eat 2.

[njmac]

It's not principle that keeps me away, its the way the food sits in my stomach and makes me feel like I'm gonna throw up.

Come to think of it, I never felt like that as a teenager eating fast food. Maybe I'm just getting old.

[devilot]

I would rather skip a meal than eat at McDonalds. The last time I ate there was seriously 3-4 monthes ago.Yes, but I think iBlue's point was in response to using the strong language of "I would rather starve than..." because chances are, everyone posting thus far, has never been in a situation of actual starvation vs eating a burger. Hunger? Yes... skipping a meal? Believable... I'd skip meals instead of having McDonald's. I'd pay a good chunk of money to not eat anything at Jack in the Box. But most of us here haven't been in a position of burger or death.

[Lacero]

I'd take McChicken nuggets over starvation any day.

[yellow]

Too damn often, because I'm lazy, and now I'm fat.

There's a McDonald's near me that has a sanitaion rating of 84.5!! That's akin to storing a dead body out near the meat, in the sun! UGH!

[njmac]

I'm pretty lucky that I live in NJ. The best Pizza in the world is here. It's quick, it's hot, it's cheap, and it could be make with vegetable or meat toppings. I bet I couldn't go a mile without finding a Pizza place if I were hungry and looking.

[killuminati]

I'v been on vacation for the past month so I'v eaten a lot more than usual. I never eat burger fast food though (mc-e-dees, b-king) I eat more pizza fast food.

[CubaTBird]

mcdonalds is freakin' disgusting.. at least for me.. same with burger king.. i just can't stand fast food

[barneygumble]

is anyone else getting hungry......




for lentils, i sure am feeling sick reading of all this fat :rolleyes:

[TheMonarch]

The healthiest fast food thing (i think) is:

Carl's Jr. Charbroiled BBQ Chicken Sandwich

6g fat, 40g protein, yeaaa, i eat 2.



OMG... I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit... UGH... EEEWWW.


Yeah, I think I eat too much fast foot. About 4-6 times a week. I can't help it though. I go to school from 8am-5pm, so many times it is necessary. But I'm the type of person who's weight won't change for anything (I'm 6'2" and ~175lb). Not it means its healthy.

I now hate most fast food places except for Tacobell, and Jack in the Box... and Starbucks :D

[keithpetey]

i eat fast food at least once a day. not by choice though. im a college student and i work alot. i never have time to cook because that takes alot of time and dishes. i hate dishes. oh yeah and i suck at cooking too. i burn everything. it hasnt really affected me physically either. im 5' 7" 135 pounds, but i do ALOT of physical activity.

[TheMonarch]

i eat fast food at least once a day. not by choice though. im a college student and i work alot. i never have time to cook because that takes alot of time and dishes. i hate dishes. oh yeah and i suck at cooking too. i burn everything. it hasnt really affected me physically either. im 5' 7" 135 pounds, but i do ALOT of physical activity.


You're like my shorter mirror image :p . No, but really, thats how it is for me.

[yellow]

But I'm the type of person who's weight won't change for anything (I'm 6'2" and ~175lb). Not it means its healthy.

It will change.. take it from a former 6'6" 172lbser who now weighs nearly 100lbs more. Age, marriage, lack of exercise, and poor eating habits WILL catch up with you.

[njmac]

Speaking of which, have you decided on an avatar?

Well, since you brought it up......... no. But I will be now :D

[ham_man]

Umm... Once every... two or three months, maybe. And only when I'm with friends, and they all wanted McD's or something. Never on my own initiative.

(No, I don't think Wendy's DELICIOUS Chicken B.L.T. salad counts... Hmmmm delicious!)
Even thought that probably has just as much sugar and fat as a Royale with Cheese...

[EJBasile]

I never so many people ate fast food so much!

Think about how much grease and crap goes into making there food. The only benefit of eating all the junk are more angioplasties and more Bio-Diesel stuff.

I think it is a complete joke that McDonalds is trying to push a healthy lifestyle.

[yellow]

I blame partially hydrogenated oils. Delicious stuff.

[dotdotdot]

Ewww...

I gave up fast food when I was 11.

However, last week I had Burger King - my camp made us either eat there, or nowhere. It honestly wasn't as horrible as I thought it would be. But I'd never eat it again anyway.

Subway is amazing though - Footlong Italian B.M.T. or Meatball Marinara without Cheese and with onions and sweet peppers is great.

[fistful]

A few times a month. I have a thing for BigMacs but I try to limit that to once a month. The rest of the time it's pizza or hot wings.

I used to eat taco bell all the time but the last time I had it about two years ago it made me ill, haven't touched it since. Recently I've been craving it again enough that I think I might give it another chance, someone please talk me out of it? :o

[mad jew]

I love it. I do enough exercise to burn it off anyway. :D

[jlewis2k1]

heh, considering i work at DQ Grill & chill and McDonalds ... I rarely eat fast food. however, if I do i REFUSE to eat mcdonalds. OMG that place makes me wanna ... not eat for like days. its just disgusting. DQ on the other hand I love their food but no thanks. Why get sick of something when you are potentially gonna be there for a long time? Anyhoo, I guess my answer is I rarely eat fast food and much rather to eat pure homemade food :-).

[~Shard~]

How often do I eat poison? Hmm... Well, I figure I eat fast food maybe twice a year, on the rare occasions when there is absolutely no other option. I care about my health and well-being, so I make a conscious effort to keep as much garbage out of my body as possible. I just don't get people who willingly treat their body like crap and could care less. After all, if you don't have your health, what do you have? :cool:

[~Shard~]

I love it. I do enough exercise to burn it off anyway. :D

Exercise doesn't really address the cholesterol building up in your heart's arteries, the trauma to your liver, pancreas and kidneys though... :eek: ;)

[barneygumble]

Ewww...

I gave up fast food when I was 11.

However, last week I had Burger King - my camp made us either eat there, or nowhere. It honestly wasn't as horrible as I thought it would be. But I'd never eat it again anyway.

Subway is amazing though - Footlong Italian B.M.T. or Meatball Marinara without Cheese and with onions and sweet peppers is great.

do you have any idea of the fat content of those sandwiches? let me tell you they are huge (http://www.subway.com/applications/NutritionInfo/nutritionlist.aspx?id=sandwich) at least 50 grams (and 1120 calorie) of fat per footlong stay away from that stuff like the plague! the only healthy thing on the menu involves the brown bread and salad. Stay away from the cookies too! Trust me i know i used to have it everyday for lunch it catches up with you.

[mad jew]

Exercise doesn't really address the cholesterol building up in your heart's arteries, the trauma to your liver, pancreas and kidneys though... :eek: ;)


What you can't see, can't hurt you. :p


Yeah, I know. But I'm a bit of an exercise junkie and fast food is sometimes the quickest (obviously) and easiest way to get my kilo-joule count back up after a fast run/long bike ride etc. True though, it still doesn't make it "okay" or justify it in the least. :(

[~Shard~]

do you have any idea of the fat content of those sandwiches? let me tell you they are huge (http://www.subway.com/applications/NutritionInfo/nutritionlist.aspx?id=sandwich) at least 50 grams of fat per footlong stay away from that stuff like the plague! the only healthy thing on the menu involves the brown bread and salad. Stay away from the cookies to0!

Yes, lots of people think some of the alternatives out there are much more healthy, when in fact, they are not. You have to be careful in what you choose, as some are indeed healthy, some are not. It's like what I call "the salad principle" - some people think salad is healthy for you no matter what. Well it is, if you don't drown it in high fat and high sugar salad dressing! Many Subway sandwiches are better than the McDonald's etc. alternatives, don't get me wrong, but if you're loading it up with mayo, other fattening ingredients, getting a Coke with it (pure sugar and chemicals), eating large portions of it (serving sixes are far too large nowadays) and having it on white bread (horrible!), you're not doing yourself much of a favor. :cool:

[EJBasile]

I should have checked my blood pressure after eating that McDonalds. I have sphygmomanometer (doesn't that sound like a made up word) right next to me.

Maybe I'll take an asprin hahah. My arteries are clogged.

[~Shard~]

What you can't see, can't hurt you. :p


Yeah, I know. But I'm a bit of an exercise junkie and fast food is sometimes the quickest (obviously) and easiest way to get my kilo-joule count back up after a fast run/long bike ride etc. True though, it still doesn't make it "okay" or justify it in the least. :(

I know what you mean - it's unfortunate when the easiest option is an unhealthy one, but sometimes that's the way it works out - regardless, I'm definitely not trying to bash you or anything, just wanted to make the comment. ;) You are far better than a large majority of the population who thinks nothing of eating fast food and doesn't exercise in the least. So in that respect, I think you're definitely ahead of many people since you realize the nature of the situation and are "aware". :cool:

[~Shard~]

I should have checked my blood pressure after eating that McDonalds. I have sphygmomanometer (doesn't that sound like a made up word) right next to me.

Maybe I'll take an asprin hahah. My arteries are clogged.

Let us know the results! ;)

[jessica.]

Every single day twice a day and then for dinner I eat mexican food.

[barneygumble]

Yes, lots of people think some of the alternatives out there are much more healthy, when in fact, they are not. You have to be careful in what you choose, as some are indeed healthy, some are not. It's like what I call "the salad principle" - some people think salad is healthy for you no matter what. Well it is, if you don't drown it in high fat and high sugar salad dressing! Many Subway sandwiches are better than the McDonald's etc. alternatives, don't get me wrong, but if you're loading it up with mayo, other fattening ingredients, getting a Coke with it (pure sugar and chemicals), eating large portions of it (serving sixes are far too large nowadays) and having it on white bread (horrible!), you're not doing yourself much of a favor. :cool:

yeah a lot of people have the perception that anything on the subway menu is healthy (i know i used to work at one) and then would promply order a footlong BMT i started to get really worried about this trend towards the end of my employment their. I could not understand how people thought it was healthy :confused: even with pepporoni and salami on it. What particularly saddened me was a guy who wa probably pushing 200kg used to come in and order the footlong BMT whilst trying to lose weight because he thoughtit was healthy, incidently i did tell him that the BMT was worse for him than anything on the McDonalds menu, he then started eating the Veggie Delite!

[mad jew]

So in that respect, I think you're definitely ahead of many people since you realize the nature of the situation and are "aware". :cool:


Hmm... Maybe that puts me behind the multitudes of other people since I'm not acting on my knowledge of the harms... Nevertheless, I'm young and can probably afford to eat crap more so than many others.

I work on the premise that so long as I get all the nutrients/vitamins etc. that I need, it's all cool. At my age, it's more important to get all the goodness possible rather than to try to keep back on the unhealthy stuff. Does that make sense? Still, I probably should cut back. :p

Simplification attempt: I eat a lot of good stuff, I eat a lot of bad stuff, I do a lot of exercise and it all seems to balance out. I'd consider myself among the upper echelons of healthy people I know (not trying to be arrogant, but really it's not something to boast about anyway since it's relatively easy to accomplish). :D

[TheMonarch]

Every single day twice a day and then for dinner I eat mexican food.


Unless you can't help it, its not very smart

[bousozoku]

Regularly, I don't eat it often enough. Even once a week is rare. However, I had been on a couple of road trips recently, so everything was fast food, save one meal. I don't eat much so the fat just went away. :D

It was actually good to sample different area's fast food places and then, go back to my normal routine. I can't remember if I ever super-sized anything but that would be unusual.

[mad jew]

It was actually good to sample different area's fast food places and then, go back to my normal routine.


You can tell the difference? Apart from the naming, I reckon it all tastes the same. That's what's so great about it, the uniformity.


In Paris... ...they call it a Royale with cheese.

[EJBasile]

Let us know the results! ;)

I checked, it's normal (it was sort of a joke), but I feel sick to my stomach.

But you people who eat that greasy, fatty food with really high calories, sodium, and cholesteral three or four or five times a week are going to get sick. f you eat that much discusting food a day heres what is likely to happen:

- You'll eventually get high blood pressure from the high sodium and cholesteral leading to a heart attack, etc

- You'll gain more easier because your consuming so many calories that you body says "I have enough calories, let me just store the other ones as
fat. All the fat and sugar your taking in too won't help you either with your wieght.

- Increase of insulin resistance = risk of diabetes

There are people like me who can eat and eat (never go on cruises) and never gain a pound. But just because you look healthy on the outside does not mean you are internally heathly.

As Shard said eating all this junk will turn your hurt you:
-Liver -cleans blood for cells

-Kidnets -clean blood, regulate blood acid//base levels, controls water levels, etc

-Pancreas -it prevents your stomach acid from eating away your digestive system and it breaks down nutrients -proteins, fats and starch- to be absorbed in your intestines

So worst case senario your blood is contaminated thus hurting your cells and your intestines are not absorbing nutrients (killing your cells) , they are just getting eaten away buy your stomach acid (-that would be a painful death). -Thats exteme, you'd probably die of a heart attack first.

~EJBasile

Exercising burns calories, it does not burn sodium and cholesteral!

[EJBasile]

Hmm... Maybe that puts me behind the multitudes of other people since I'm not acting on my knowledge of the harms... Nevertheless, I'm young and can probably afford to eat crap more so than many others.

I work on the premise that so long as I get all the nutrients/vitamins etc. that I need, it's all cool. At my age, it's more important to get all the goodness possible rather than to try to keep back on the unhealthy stuff. Does that make sense? Still, I probably should cut back. :p

Simplification attempt: I eat a lot of good stuff, I eat a lot of bad stuff, I do a lot of exercise and it all seems to balance out. I'd consider myself among the upper echelons of healthy people I know (not trying to be arrogant, but really it's not something to boast about anyway since it's relatively easy to accomplish). :D

Ignorance is not a virtue. :)

You can still put yourself at risk for diabetes, which I'm possitive you don't want and as you get older, increase the risk of high blood pressure. Just because your young doesn't mean when you become "old" you'll be perfectly healthy.

You have stop at some point. The crap in that food that gets in your blood stream just doesn't go out when you go to bathroom. It sticks around for a while and it you keep on eating more crap, it will just accumulate. Your exercise probably keeps the weight off but internally, you may not be as healthy as you think.

I'm not trying to act like a parent or Dr. Phil, but I am a doctor and I am just looking out for your health.

(this goes for everyone who is young and thinks they are invinsible to regular diets of unhealthy fast food)

[mad jew]

Hmm... Thanks for the expert advice EJBasile. :)

This thread has made me think of my diet more and I'll probably try to eat more healthily, but all the same, I still only have fast food about once a week which is bad, but not horrible. All the same, when I'm manipulating my diet, I'll probably continue to focus more on putting good stuff in rather than cutting bad things out.

[bartelby]

The only time I've eaten fast food in the last 2 years is when my band's had a gig an I haven't had time to get something proper to eat.

[EJBasile]

Hmm... Thanks for the expert advice EJBasile. :)

This thread has made me think of my diet more and I'll probably try to eat more healthily, but all the same, I still only have fast food about once a week which is bad, but not horrible. All the same, when I'm manipulating my diet, I'll probably continue to focus more on putting good stuff in rather than cutting bad things out.

Think as that hamburger as a cow put throw a wood chipper and blown out into a machine that turns the meat/bones/organs into one big roll of meat, and then they pour preservatives, articial colors & flavorss, grease and tons of salt on top of it, then press it into a circle and put it in a freezer truck. Then they ship it to a McDonalds, where they put it in the freezer for a week and then they put it in a deep fryer and the worker puts the hamdburger together using his/her's dirty hands. Then they wrap it up and give it you.

Once a week is not great, but at least your not one of those people that eats f.f. 3-4 times a week.

I hope I enlightened you.

[mad jew]

Way to ruin fast food for me EJBasile. :rolleyes:

And it was so quick and easy... :(


Nah, but thanks, that's actually helping quite a bit. I haven't seen Supersize Me either, so maybe I'll rent that soon too.

[bousozoku]

You can tell the difference? Apart from the naming, I reckon it all tastes the same. That's what's so great about it, the uniformity.

Thank goodness, it doesn't taste all the same. There are various levels, even in fast food. A lot of times, it's the awful-looking hole-in-the-wall place that has the best stuff. Still, in 4800 km each way, I got to try a few things. Then, I had another trip of about 1600 km so, I tried a few other things. However, fried food is like glue. When they say it sticks to your ribs, they're not far from the truth.

[EJBasile]

Way to ruin fast food for me EJBasile. :rolleyes:

And it was so quick and easy... :(


Nah, but thanks, that's actually helping quite a bit. I haven't seen Supersize Me either, so maybe I'll rent that soon too.

Well that movie will want you to not eat fast food. It will be even more encouraging than my little Doctor to Patient "conversation" for you to stop eating that Fast Food.

[mad jew]

Well that movie will want you to not eat fast food. It will be even more encouraging than my little Doctor to Patient "conversation" for you to stop eating that Fast Food.


That's the idea. :D

[Abstract]

Yes, lots of people think some of the alternatives out there are much more healthy, when in fact, they are not. You have to be careful in what you choose, as some are indeed healthy, some are not. It's like what I call "the salad principle" - some people think salad is healthy for you no matter what. Well it is, if you don't drown it in high fat and high sugar salad dressing! Many Subway sandwiches are better than the McDonald's etc. alternatives, don't get me wrong, but if you're loading it up with mayo, other fattening ingredients, getting a Coke with it (pure sugar and chemicals), eating large portions of it (serving sixes are far too large nowadays) and having it on white bread (horrible!), you're not doing yourself much of a favor. :cool:

But by weight, you're getting much more food from it and around the same amount of fat, no?

If not, then this thread has been informative......Subway can be bad. I always thought that Subway was the full-proof place to go for a healthy or semi-healthy meal. Maybe I was wrong, but even so it still seems better than the grease that stains the burger wrapping paper at Burger King.

Subway.....get a roast beef sub, and it's still better than the super-processed burgers at BK, I'll say, even if the roast beef is a bit processed.

[Abstract]

Oh yes, and is vinegar dressing on salad bad for you? I always thought it was better than using Italian or any of the others, but if some of these other oil-based dressings use olive oil, does it make them better than using vinegar?

[Nermal]

I have a bad habit of eating a lot of McD's, KFC etc (couple of times a week). I try to remember to go to Subway instead, but for some reason that doesn't happen much, despite it being cheaper there.

The worst thing is that I lie in bed and think "I ate junk food AGAIN today!" and then go and do it again a couple of days later :mad:

[caveman_uk]

I eat 'fast food' practically never. OK I had some fries when I went to Belgium a while back. Does that count?

On the other hand, I occasionally have a Indian restaurant curry which probably isn't that good for you either.

[Lyle]

I'm not sure where you draw the line at "fast food" (e.g. I was amused to see that McDonald's is the Great Satan but Subway is apparently A-OK).

I will occasionally pick up some breakfast (e.g. an Egg McMuffin) at the McDonald's drive-through on the way to work in the morning, but that's the only time I go there anymore. For lunch it's usually a sandwich place, like Subway or Chick-Fil-A.

[yellow]

I just ate an Egg McMuffin.. ok, 2 Egg McMuffins. I'm weak.. <sob>

[mad jew]

...And I just got back from KFC. :o

Hey, it's about 11:00PM and I haven't eaten all day, give me a break. I'll try harder to abstain tomorrow.

[~Shard~]

yeah a lot of people have the perception that anything on the subway menu is healthy (i know i used to work at one) and then would promply order a footlong BMT i started to get really worried about this trend towards the end of my employment their. I could not understand how people thought it was healthy :confused: even with pepporoni and salami on it.

Yep, it’s just like anything else – you have to be careful and you can’t just assume. I, too, shake my head at anyone who can eat something with pepperoni in it and assume it is healthy – yeah, a meat which has no expiry date has to be healthy for you, right? :rolleyes: :p

Hmm... Maybe that puts me behind the multitudes of other people since I'm not acting on my knowledge of the harms...

I don’t see it necessary to re-hash anything you’ve already discussed with EJBasile, as he made some excellent points which I appreciate you recognize, but just to add in my thoughts…

Nevertheless, I'm young and can probably afford to eat crap more so than many others.

Probably not the best approach. What you do now affects your body later and will eventually catch up with you. Don’t be fooled just because the signs aren’t there yet. I’m sure many smokers say the same thing too: “I’m young, so my body can take it”. Then, after 30 years of smoking, they develop lung cancer or emphysema after years of abusing their bodies. :(

I work on the premise that so long as I get all the nutrients/vitamins etc. that I need, it's all cool. At my age, it's more important to get all the goodness possible rather than to try to keep back on the unhealthy stuff. Does that make sense? Still, I probably should cut back

I think you’re partly right, however ultimately, it’s “garbage in, garbage out”. If you’re feeding your body vitamins, etc., great, but regardless, your body can’t work to its optimum level if you feed it crap as well - in some respects, taking the vitamins is getting negated. Sure, it's better than taking none at all, but still. I would draw the analogy of someone who justifies sitting on the couch all night with a bag of chips by going to the gym for half an hour and hardly breaking a sweat. He is only fooling himself, as the math simply doesn’t add up.

Of course, don’t get me wrong, the fact that you do take vitamins and are active is great – again, you’re farther ahead than many people, so I commend you for that! :)

[XIII]

I havn't eaten fast food in months/years. Not since I saw "Supersize me" actually. :p

[~Shard~]

If not, then this thread has been informative......Subway can be bad. I always thought that Subway was the full-proof place to go for a healthy or semi-healthy meal. Maybe I was wrong, but even so it still seems better than the grease that stains the burger wrapping paper at Burger King.

Better only in some cases – and still it’s all relative. Subway has some very healthy choices, but as barneygumble said, some of their selections are worse than McD’s, etc. if you look at the fats, sodium, etc. included in their sandwiches. Not to mention that they are carb-fests! And throw some white bread in there, and... ;)

Oh yes, and is vinegar dressing on salad bad for you? I always thought it was better than using Italian or any of the others, but if some of these other oil-based dressings use olive oil, does it make them better than using vinegar?

No, vinegar dressing isn’t bad for you – it’s only the thick, creamy, sugar and fat-laden ones you have to worry about. But yes, the olive oil ones are better. I cook with pure virgin olive oil every chance I get, it’s actually good for your heart.

[~Shard~]

I'm not sure where you draw the line at "fast food" (e.g. I was amused to see that McDonald's is the Great Satan but Subway is apparently A-OK).

As many of us have said, Subway is definitely not “A-OK”. ;)

I will occasionally pick up some breakfast (e.g. an Egg McMuffin) at the McDonald's drive-through on the way to work in the morning, but that's the only time I go there anymore.

Unfortunately, that may be the worst possible time to eat fast food. Your body is craving nutrients and all the good stuff that will help you get through your day at breakfast (it is the most important meal of the day!) and one of the worst things you can do is feed it a ton of sodium, fat and sugar (Egg McMuffins are horrible when it comes to this!) first thing in the morning. It will grind your metabolism down to a crawl and that garbage will stay with you all day.

And for the record, although I’m not a doctor like EJBasile, I still am speaking to all these things from experience, and for educational purposes and to help people, not to condemn, so I hope I don’t come across the wrong way. :cool:

I changed my lifestyle about 3 years ago as it pertains to all this material and am in the best shape of my life and feel a million times better for doing it. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, without your health, what do you have? Perhaps I just don’t understand people who don’t even care about their own body, well-being and future – I just can’t fathom that. Yet so many of my friends just keep getitng fatter and aftter and lazier and lazier. It's a shame they won't live past 40 in many cases, and if they do, they'll have serious complications like diabetes, etc. :(

But, to clarify that, I always say "everything in moderation as well" - I am by no means a "health nut", and of course I treat myself every once and a while, but when it comes to fast food, I never touch that poison. :cool:

[yellow]

Are you saying Jared is a liar!?!

http://www.qwe.com/scott/secretowl/jared_subway2.jpg

[Koodauw]

I eat out every day.

I tend to stay away from Mcdonalds, KFC, Burgering, etc, as most of their food tastes like garbage.

I eat the local fast food places, pizza shops, cart vendors, etc. Much beter food.

[EJBasile]

Are you saying Jared is a liar!?!

http://www.qwe.com/scott/secretowl/jared_subway2.jpg


Yes in a way.

There are healthy options at subway, but there are also not so healthy choices as discussed above. The commercails make it sound like you can eat what ever you want there and you'll be healthy.

I went to go to my car this morning and it still smelled like McDonalds (making me want to hurl after last night- oh wait, I almost did). So I rolled down its windows a bit and took a different car to work.

[~Shard~]

Yes in a way.

There are healthy options at subway, but there are also not so healthy choices as discussed above. The commercails make it sound like you can eat what ever you want there and you'll be healthy.

Precisely - it's the power of advertising. As with anything, all consumers (especially of food! ;)) need to be informed and not just blindly go along with what the good old "idiot box" tells them.

Oh, and did you have to post that pic again in your quote EJBasile, once was enough for me! :eek: ;)

[Tahko]

Every time I yell my girlfriend to bring me a sandwich. Now that is fast!

[jiv3turkey748]

i used to never eat fast food but then they built a mcdonalds within walking distance of my house now i eat it at least once a week

[oldschool]

- You'll eventually get high blood pressure from the high sodium and cholesteral leading to a heart attack, etc

Exercising burns calories, it does not burn sodium and cholesteral!


it's cholesterol Dr. Basile

[oldschool]

I know a good cardiactric surgeon- let me know if you need his number.



what's a cardiactric surgeon

[ohcrap]

How often do you eat fast food?
Almost everyday.

[barneygumble]

it's cholesterol Dr. Basile

swish!!!

[iBlue]

it's cholesterol Dr. Basile



what's a cardiactric surgeon?



indeed ;) ;) ;)

[~Shard~]

it's cholesterol Dr. Basile

what's a cardiactric surgeon

So, do you have anything to actually contribute to the discussion, or are you just content in picking apart other people's posts? :p ;)

[~Shard~]

i used to never eat fast food but then they built a mcdonalds within walking distance of my house now i eat it at least once a week

That's how they get you - convenience. Don't take the easy, lazy way out, remain strong! ;) :cool:

[EJBasile]

So, do you have anything to actually contribute to the discussion, or are you just content in picking apart other people's posts? :p ;)

Thanky you Shard.


Its what happens when you type on using graffiti on a Sony Clie.

Cardiothoracic Surgeon, Cardiothoracic Surgeon, Cardiothoracic Surgeon
(a person some of you people might want to look into finding)

Cholesterol, Cholesterol, Cholesterol, Cholesterol, Cholesterol, Cholesterol, (haha thats what a lot of you people are ingesting)

necessary necessary necessary necessary necessary necessary necessary
(I feel like I'm back in elementary school or a language class)

[Fredstar]

Very rarely, trying to get slim and healthy :rolleyes:
But i do have Burger King whenever i travel to London through Waterloo (perhaps once every month), Dominoes like twice a year, a few Dona Kebab's after a night out clubbing or something :rolleyes:
On the whole, most nights i have nice home cooked and healthy food.

[emmawu]

I only eat the cones at MacDonald's when it's over 90 degrees, otherwise, I don't eat fast food; it's indigestible.

[taeclee99]

After reading fast food nation, i try to avoid fast food if possible.

Notable exceptiions include chik-fil-a, in-n-out and chipotle.

[MattG]

Once at week at most, and I try to avoid McDonalds as it's just so greasy. Burger King at least *seems* healthier, although none of them are good for you.

[mad jew]

Dunno about elsewhere, but over here Burger King has twice as much fat as McDonalds almost entirely across the line. I agre that it seems healthier but I don't think it actually is. Well, it certainly isn't here in Australia. :)

[iBlue]

After reading fast food nation, i try to avoid fast food if possible.

Notable exceptiions include chik-fil-a, in-n-out and chipotle.

in-n-out ... this leads me to believe you are actually a southern californian then? (i could be wrong but i thought that was a so cal thing... something i miss very much, along with Baja Fresh ;))

Baja Fresh is the perfect alternative between "real" food and fast food; it is excellent! it is fairly quick to come to you (can be take out or eat in) and isn't junk. i bet most of you southern california residents can concur :)

[yellow]

Those of you in SoCal, how is Fat Burger?

[EJBasile]

I don't eat at McDonalds because it is nasty, but I can't imagine how clean the kitchens ae in those places.

The McDonalds got the lowest rating on the sanitation scale (without having to be closed) by the farmington Valley Health District.

[~Shard~]

Dunno about elsewhere, but over here Burger King has twice as much fat as McDonalds almost entirely across the line. I agre that it seems healthier but I don't think it actually is. Well, it certainly isn't here in Australia. :)

And I expect the Hungry Jack's wouldn't be much better. ;)

[taeclee99]

in-n-out ... this leads me to believe you are actually a southern californian then? (i could be wrong but i thought that was a so cal thing... something i miss very much, along with Baja Fresh ;))

Baja Fresh is the perfect alternative between "real" food and fast food; it is excellent! it is fairly quick to come to you (can be take out or eat in) and isn't junk. i bet most of you southern california residents can concur :)


Yes, socal nearly all my life. In-N-Out has the best burgers ever. I think I am craving it at this moment.

So you miss baja fresh huh? Where are you located now?

The only thing about baja fresh is that the natives (latinos) think it is not authentic mexican food....they refer to the food as "tacos for gringos." I for one love Baja Fresh, especially the burrito ultimo w/ steak and their steak taquitos.

[mad jew]

And I expect the Hungry Jack's wouldn't be much better. ;)


Not just a pretty face. :D

[highres]

I just moved to the Santa Cruz or Central Cal from Southern Cal and I miss the following "fast food":

La Salsa (Baja Shrimp Tacos)
Baja Fresh (the Ultimo Chicken Burrito)
In-N-Out (the Double-Double Animal Style w/ no pickles)...

I rarely eat fast food though, and now live in Santa Cruz, CA. the health food capital of the world, where there are many healthy alternatives to fast food...

[~Shard~]

Not just a pretty face. :D

Backpacked throughout Oz 2.5 years ago, absolutely LOVED it - have many fond memories of all different sorts - Hungry Jack's being one of them (although I never ate there). ;) :cool:

[DeSnousa]

Dunno about elsewhere, but over here Burger King has twice as much fat as McDonalds almost entirely across the line. I agre that it seems healthier but I don't think it actually is. Well, it certainly isn't here in Australia. :)

:eek: :eek: what there is burger king in Australia, i have never seen it unless it is not in Queensland.

I used to have fast food 1-2 a week now i have it like 1-2 a week only on the school holidays when i go with my mates to watch films. I love my mums food for one reason and the other is wastage of money.

However with that said i buy food a tuckshop on a regular basis, and since the government has been pushing on healthy foods in our schools, there is nothing good to eat :( Lucky there is till the good old meat pie though :) Sometimes they prepare stir fry and pasta which is also good.

[mad jew]

:eek: :eek: what there is burger king in Australia, i have never seen it unless it is not in Queensland.


As Shard knows, it's Hungry Jacks here. I just didn't want to confuse everyone. Sorry, I think I failed. :(

[applecrag]

taco bell must be my favorite fast food restaraunt. i try to stay away from the ground "beef." i get steak but i dont think its much better :( a couple years ago i was behind a taco bell in our town. i watched a truck bring in some boxes. on the side of the box it read "Grade D Meat- Still Edible." that just really grossed me out and ive only recently eaten taco bell since that. one of my friends dad is a lawyer and i heard him saying that someone found a condom in an order from taco bell. im not sure whether or not he defended taco bell in that case. it made me think twice about eating there...but crunchwrap supremes are hard to pass up!

[taeclee99]

taco bell must be my favorite fast food restaraunt. i try to stay away from the ground "beef." i get steak but i dont think its much better :( a couple years ago i was behind a taco bell in our town. i watched a truck bring in some boxes. on the side of the box it read "Grade D Meat- Still Edible." that just really grossed me out and ive only recently eaten taco bell since that. one of my friends dad is a lawyer and i heard him saying that someone found a condom in an order from taco bell. im not sure whether or not he defended taco bell in that case. it made me think twice about eating there...but crunchwrap supremes are hard to pass up!

It is believed that taco bell uses grade d beef in their menu. Might be a myth. For the uninformed grade d grade beef is only right above dog food grade meat.
No wonder taco bell uses that dog in their ads.

[~Shard~]

As Shard knows, it's Hungry Jacks here. I just didn't want to confuse everyone. Sorry, I think I failed. :(

No worries mad jew, it's all good. :)

[~Shard~]

It is believed that taco bell uses grade d beef in their menu. Might be a myth. For the uninformed grade d grade beef is only right above dog food grade meat.
No wonder taco bell uses that dog in their ads.

And it's things like this that makes me ask, again, why do people fill their bodies with crap like that?!?? I guess they just must be ignorant - hopefully threads like this, books like Fast Food Nation, and movies like Supersize Me will better educate the public towards the toxins they are ingesting.

[DeSnousa]

As Shard knows, it's Hungry Jacks here. I just didn't want to confuse everyone. Sorry, I think I failed. :(

Okay, i always thought Hungry Jacks (Burger King ;)) was less fattening than the rest of the fast food companies. Like the bread they use when squished behaves like normal bread, if that makes sense.

[iBlue]

Yes, socal nearly all my life. In-N-Out has the best burgers ever. I think I am craving it at this moment.

So you miss baja fresh huh? Where are you located now?

The only thing about baja fresh is that the natives (latinos) think it is not authentic mexican food....they refer to the food as "tacos for gringos." I for one love Baja Fresh, especially the burrito ultimo w/ steak and their steak taquitos.

i always loved the chicken ultimo ;) Mmmmmmm! and yes, in-N-out has some awesome burgers. oh how i miss LA :(
i live in washinton state now, and genuinely hate it.

[~Shard~]

Okay, i always thought Hungry Jacks (Burger King ;)) was less fattening than the rest of the fast food companies. Like the bread they use when squished behaves like normal bread, if that makes sense.

At fast food places, I think you have a lot more to worry about than just the bread. ;) Further to that, whether it's BK, McD's, Wendy's or whomever, all the bread is white bread, which is bad for you regardless of its "consistency". If one had whole grain for instance, that would be better, but still, wrapping processed gunk in a whole grain bun versus a white bun doesn't result in much difference at the end of the day. :cool:

[mad jew]

Okay, i always thought Hungry Jacks (Burger King ;)) was less fattening than the rest of the fast food companies. Like the bread they use when squished behaves like normal bread, if that makes sense.


Yeah, I know Hungry Jacks feels less processed than the alternatives but I can safely tell you that it's not healthier in terms of fat per burger. For a Big Mac (http://mcdonalds.com.au/homeASP/) versus a Whopper (http://www.hungryjacks.com.au/guide/ngWhopper.htm) it's 24.9g of fat versus 39.3g of fat. Sure, I know fat isn't the only bad thing about fast food, but still, that's quite a difference.

[puckhead193]

about once a week or so. I have it on the weekend cause lunch is provided by the camp...no more chicken nuggets and pizza :eek:

[EJBasile]

In CT we only have McDonalds, Wendies, KFC, Taco Bell (yo no quiero :))and Burger King for the most part. I've never been to a Chick-fil-A, Hungry Jacks, in-N-out, etc.

[mad jew]

Hungry Jacks is Burger King. They couldn't use the name because some small company in Adelaide, South Australia already had it taken.

[yellow]

Yes in a way.

There are healthy options at subway, but there are also not so healthy choices as discussed above. The commercails make it sound like you can eat what ever you want there and you'll be healthy.

I was being facetious, Doc. ;)

[~Shard~]

Yeah, I know Hungry Jacks feels less processed than the alternatives but I can safely tell you that it's not healthier in terms of fat per burger. For a Big Mac (http://mcdonalds.com.au/homeASP/) versus a Whopper (http://www.hungryjacks.com.au/guide/ngWhopper.htm) it's 24.9g of fat versus 39.3g of fat. Sure, I know fat isn't the only bad thing about fast food, but still, that's quite a difference.

Absolutely right mad jew - that's a very significant difference, and not one to overlook.

For instance, "The Ultimate Whopper meal", king-sized with a Coke, contains 2,230 calories, 111 grams of fat and 233 grams of carbohydrates. :eek: What do you even say about that?

And how about this for a great way to start your day:

McDonald's - Sausage, Egg and Cheese McGriddle - 560 calories, 32 g fat, 48 g carbs
but wait, it gets worse!
Burger King - Double Sausage Croissanwich - 750 calories, 60 g fat, 26 g carbs

Oh, and for Abstract, who inquired about salad dressings, and was right to say the vinegar dressings were better:

- Newman’s Own Low Fat Raspberry Vinaigrette - 40 calories, 4 g fat, 4 g carbs
- Newman’s Own Creamy Caesar Dressing 190 calories, 18 g fat, 4 g carbs

[iBlue]

<snip>

say it isn't so! i am so seriously losing my appetite for fast food as this thread progresses :eek: i was the most mortified about the grade d meat at taco bell, now this 2K plus calorie 233 carb news?! that's just not right, UGH! can they not make their food so horrific? cheap lazy bastards.

i initially thought several of you were being anal retentive hunds but as i read more i am a bit put off by the whole thing too.
Jack n the crack, McBowels, Burger Thing, Taco Smell, Endy's, etc a little less business from me i think <gags a little>

[EJBasile]

Absolutely right mad jew - that's a very significant difference, and not one to overlook.

For instance, "The Ultimate Whopper meal", king-sized with a Coke, contains 2,230 calories, 111 grams of fat and 233 grams of carbohydrates. :eek: What do you even say about that?

And how about this for a great way to start your day:

McDonald's - Sausage, Egg and Cheese McGriddle - 560 calories, 32 g fat, 48 g carbs
but wait, it gets worse!
Burger King - Double Sausage Croissanwich - 750 calories, 60 g fat, 26 g carbs

Oh, and for Abstract, who inquired about salad dressings, and was right to say the vinegar dressings were better:

- Newman’s Own Low Fat Raspberry Vinaigrette - 40 calories, 4 g fat, 4 g carbs
- Newman’s Own Creamy Caesar Dressing 190 calories, 18 g fat, 4 g carbs

I'll take 2 ultimate whoppers!

Holly Crap 2,230 calories, 111 grams of fat!

The Ultimate Whopper "A Heart Attack On A Plate" and "A Future Gastric Bypass Canidate Creater"

You could eat one, but nothing else that day and nothing with fat in it for the next 4 days.

[puckhead193]

For instance, "The Ultimate Whopper meal", king-sized with a Coke, contains [b]2,230 calories, 111 grams of fat and 233 grams of carbohydrates[/


what about if you instead of a coke get a diet coke;)

[iBlue]

what about if you instead of a coke get a diet coke;)

then you can get cancer from the artificial sweetners. everything causes cancer you know. :p

one could easily starve if too much thought was put into the food we eat.

[EJBasile]

Seriously now:

Most people are supposed to eat 2,000 calories a day with 65g of fat and >20g of sat. fat.

If your reccomended diet per day is around 2,200 calories, your also to eat around 70 grams of fat and something like 25 grams or less of saturated fat.

So you can eat a whopper, but you'll be eating 40 GRAMS more fat than you should be. Thats more than a 1/3 MORE fat than you should be eating.

EDIT: ^^^^thats asuming your eating a 2,000 calorie diet

[sambo.]

Hungry Jacks is Burger King. They couldn't use the name because some small company in Adelaide, South Australia already had it taken.

umm, The Burger King was a small greasy-wogshop in Melbourne (St Kilda believe, but i could be wrong and it is/was Adelaide) and old Con (prolly a Con, but maybe a Dimitrios) refused to sell the name to Burger King of the USA, so they called their initial Aussie restaurants Hungry Jacks.

Dimitrios (or is it Jimmy) finally sold out for uber-squillions and more power too him.

cheers
sambo. :eek:

[sambo.]

but to answer the question....
i am three hours from the nearest Micky D's or KFC...

thank <iDocH>

[~Shard~]

say it isn't so! i am so seriously losing my appetite for fast food as this thread progresses :eek: i was the most mortified about the grade d meat at taco bell, now this 2K plus calorie 233 carb news?! that's just not right, UGH! can they not make their food so horrific? cheap lazy bastards.

Oh, they can and they do!

i initially thought several of you were being anal retentive hunds but as i read more i am a bit put off by the whole thing too.

Oh no, I wasn't trying to be a prick at all, just stating the facts, really - and now you have a better idea why I've been talking the way I have been! ;)

Holly Crap 2,230 calories, 111 grams of fat!
You could eat one, but nothing else that day and nothing with fat in it for the next 4 days.

Yep, that would be about right. Oh, and don't forget to supersize the fries.... those are the healthiest, best part of the meal.... ;)

[~Shard~]

then you can get cancer from the artificial sweetners. everything causes cancer you know. :p

one could easily starve if too much thought was put into the food we eat.

Exactly. That's why I say everything in moderation, and that balance is the key. I treat myself from time to time (ice cream, cake, cookies, etc.) but fast food is just one of those things that regardless, I completely stay away from, no exceptions. And now you know why. ;)

But yes, everything, in some way or form can be a poison to the human body. Too much water can be bad for you (even purified), and even the air we breathe is poisonous, whether it's smog-filled city oxygen or pure, natural oxygen - it makes no difference. :cool:

[Lacero]

Fast food is for people who don't have a lot of time to cook, or just plain fat and lazy.

[~Shard~]

umm, The Burger King was a small greasy-wogshop in Melbourne (St Kilda believe, but i could be wrong and it is/was Adelaide) and old Con (prolly a Con, but maybe a Dimitrios) refused to sell the name to Burger King of the USA, so they called their initial Aussie restaurants Hungry Jacks.

Dimitrios (or is it Jimmy) finally sold out for uber-squillions and more power too him.

That was the story I heard as well, didn't know if it was fact or fiction though. Basically, I heard that when Burger King moved into Australia, those businessmen were trying to be clever and get millions of dollars out of BK for the name. BK basically said "screw you, we'll just call them Hungry Jack's instead". ;)

[iBlue]

Fast food is for people who don't have a lot of time to cook, or just plain fat and lazy.

but tell us how you REALLY feel! :D


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~Shard~ yeah my tendency to shrug everything off without much care seems to diminish more and more as times goes on. this thread has been eerily enlightening in ways i didn't really expect; while i seldom take anything too seriously (i am a prick that way) i will be thinking twice before taking a bite into another "steak" chalupa or sourdough jack <insert gagging sounds here>
i guess i'll be a part of the prissy food club with you all, i think it's a bit justified in this instance. :p

[EJBasile]

Exactly. That's why I say everything in moderation, and that balance is the key. I treat myself from time to time (ice cream, cake, cookies, etc.) but fast food is just one of those things that regardless, I completely stay away from, no exceptions. And now you know why. ;)

But yes, everything, in some way or form can be a poison to the human body. Too much water can be bad for you (even purified), and even the air we breathe is poisonous, whether it's smog-filled city oxygen or pure, natural oxygen - it makes no difference. :cool:

Fun Fact:
A study shows that people who eat processed meat frequently have a greater risk of getting pancreatic cancer (67%). This means eating a lot of hot dogs, sausage, lunch meats, bacon, canned soup, etc. I'm guessing that could also include McDonalds hambergers. They contain sodium nitrate which when it gets into your body can create carcinogenic nitrosamines which cause cancer and help it grow.

McDonald's meats are definatly processed......hmm....

[EJBasile]

but tell us how you REALLY feel! :D


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~Shard~ yeah my tendency to shrug everything off without much care seems to diminish more and more as times goes on. this thread has been eerily enlightening in ways i didn't really expect; while i seldom take anything too seriously (i am a prick that way) i will be thinking twice before taking a bite into another "steak" chalupa or sourdough jack <insert gagging sounds here>
i guess i'll be a part of the prissy food club with you all, i think it's a bit justified in this instance. :p

Way to go iBlue!

People are learning and taking this information away from the classroom- I mean thread and using it the real world. Or at least it is making people realize what they are ingesting.
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(yet another Great thread by EJBasile hahahahaha)

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[EJBasile]

Fast food is for people who don't have a lot of time to cook, or just plain fat and lazy.

You don't have to be fat to be lazy. And I guess if your lazy then you would get fast food, so then you'll become lazy and fat.


I think McDonalds did a clever thing. Remember how they use to have the play places in the McDonalds are there were tubes, slides, ball pit, etc. They attracted that generation of little kids with the cool "play place" and got them used to the food, so as they grow older, they would just keep on going back. I don't think there are many McDonalds with play places left around here. There is one that I know of near Bradley Internation Airport (CT) that looks like a spaceship from the outside.

[~Shard~]

while i seldom take anything too seriously (i am a prick that way)

Ah, nothing wrong with that - I'm a prick too! ;) It's on my nature as well to never take things too seriously, but there are certain things which I make exceptions for, like this. Otherwise, yeah, I'm a pretty easy-going guy, as you may have figured out from other threads... ;)

i guess i'll be a part of the prissy food club with you all, i think it's a bit justified in this instance. :p

I wouldn't call it prissy. I love a good quality steak, a hearty chicken dish (preferably organic/grain-fed, but whatever), a big bowl of pasta and many other "heavy duty" dishes - it's not like I just eat celery stalks or something! ;) But, I try and eat organic ingredients when I can, or even make simple choices like multi-grain bread over white bread (which has zero nutritional benefit), I make homemade soup (not that canned MSG-loaded preserved crap), make homemade sandwiches and burgers from fresh produce (i.e. NOT McDonald's quality), snack on fruit during the day instead of chips or chocolate, drink water or smoothies instead of pop, simple things really. :)

[~Shard~]

Way to go iBlue!

People are learning and taking this information away from the classroom- I mean thread and using it the real world. Or at least it is making people realize what they are ingesting.

I agree, I think it's great that people can be provided with this kind of information and be given some things to think about. Especially when it comes to your health, topics like this are very important and can be life-changing. I know it was for me a few years ago when I pulled a 180-degree turn with my life.

(yet another Great thread by EJBasile hahahahaha)

Doctor, you are far too modest... ;)

I think McDonalds did a clever thing. Remember how they use to have the play places in the McDonalds are there were tubes, slides, ball pit, etc. They attracted that generation of little kids with the cool "play place" and got them used to the food, so as they grow older, they would just keep on going back. I don't think there are many McDonalds with play places left around here. There is one that I know of near Bradley Internation Airport (CT) that looks like a spaceship from the outside.

Yep - this point was made in "Supersize Me" I believe - hook 'em young! Kids associate McDonald's with fun and good times due to the play areas, "Happy Meals", toys, etc., and a subconscious association is made. Throw in the addictive qualities of some of the ingredients (including sugar and caffeine), hunger-inducing ingredients (like sodium) to make them want more, and you've got yourself quite a successful business!

[AliensAreFuzzy]

Haven't gone to McDonald's or Burger King in many MANY months. I do go to Culver's pretty often (1-2 times a week). We get pizza once or twice every 2 weeks. Other than that my dad cooks, or we "eat leftovers".

[pinto32]

With the exception of Wendy's chili and baked potatoes, I haven't touched the stuff since February.

The last night I ate it, me and my girlfriend went to Burger King and rented a movie....Supersize Me. Between the documentary and the food poisoning we both got, that night was the lump of LDL that broke the camel's back

[Lacero]

With the exception of Wendy's chili and baked potatoes, I haven't touched the stuff since February.I don't want to finger Wendy's chili specifically, but I won't eat it. You never know what you're going to get.

[EJBasile]

I wouldn't call it prissy. I love a good quality steak, a hearty chicken dish (preferably organic/grain-fed, but whatever), a big bowl of pasta and many other "heavy duty" dishes - it's not like I just eat celery stalks or something! ;) But, I try and eat organic ingredients when I can, or even make simple choices like multi-grain bread over white bread (which has zero nutritional benefit), I make homemade soup (not that canned MSG-loaded preserved crap), make homemade sandwiches and burgers from fresh produce (i.e. NOT McDonald's quality), snack on fruit during the day instead of chips or chocolate, drink water or smoothies instead of pop, simple things really. :)

STEAK....mmmmmmm..... Prime Rib or Filet Mignon (resturants always taste better :() Usually I just cook rib eye at home.
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You make a good point that you don't have to eat celery sticks to be healthy. Foods like celery, lettuce, broccoli are negative calorie foods. So if you decide to eat salad all the time to try to eat healthy, that isn't exactly great for you because your not gaining calories or protein. So make sure you balance your diet. When you eat meat don't get some boxed, factory produced, preserved, water injected, meat, get meat from a butcher. Human's have lived for ever eating natural foods (plants & animals), that is the way we were made. We were not designed to eat processed chemical injected foods.

If you get want to get hamburgers, get ground hamburger (w/ the lowest fat content), press it into a circle, and grill it up. Buying those premade ones out a box contain fat to make them taste better. Anyways, they always start grill fires too. I bought them once for a party and I had a massive grill fire.

[EJBasile]

I don't want to finger Wendy's chili specifically, but I won't eat it. You never know what you're going to get.

A finger nail perhaps?

And processed meat, tomatoes that they give fertilizers to make them grow the size of pumpkins chopped up, and beans that they mfg to make them the size of apples.

[~Shard~]

You make a good point that you don't have to eat celery sticks to be healthy. Foods like celery, lettuce, broccoli are negative calorie foods. So if you decide to eat salad all the time to try to eat healthy, that isn't exactly great for you because your not gaining calories or protein. So make sure you balance your diet. When you eat meat don't get some boxed, factory produced, preserved, water injected, meat, get meat from a butcher. Human's have lived for ever eating natural foods (plants & animals), that is the way we were made. We were not designed to eat processed chemical injected foods.

Thanks, and good follow-up as well. As you say, choose healthy, natural "versions" of foods, not preserved, artificially grown, chemically altered/injected imitations. It's not that hard. I love going to my local bakery for fresh-baked multi-grained breads and the local butcher shop for a nice cut of real meat. Does it cost me any extra? No, less in fact in most cases. I love making homemade soup, and enjoy it knowing it contains no preservatives, MSG or other chemicals found in most off-the-shelf soups. Visiting the organic grocery store is simple too, and costs are the same - as are the tastes, so what's the difference? When it comes to chicken, I look for free-range grain-fed chicken, and for salmon, as another example, it has to be fresh, wild and not farmed - the steriods, chemicals and other stuff they feed those poor fish in fish farms in atrocious. As I said, it's not that hard to eat healthy. Maybe this gets back to the fact that a lot of people are lazy when it comes to their health, hence why establishments like McDonald's do so well...

[iBlue]

it seems only recently that people have started questioning their foods. this is wise considering what is, in fact, in our foods. however i swear i would starve if i thought too much about it. (stinkin thinkin)
i wondered one day what "natural flavoring" "natural flavors" "all natural" "artificial flavoring" etc etc was actually trying to indicate. i mean, natural... as opposed to what, supernatural? anything from cockroach legs to turds can be "natural" what in the world are they trying to tell us. when i read more and starting reading labels i ended up with the most empty shopping cart one could imagine. i had like a gallon of $7 organic milk, some granola (haha) a bag of baby carrots (how do they do that?) and Ben & Jerry's ice cream. i was even upset at the cup o noodles ingredients and it stayed on the shelf. damn information! :D
is there really anything safe to eat anymore? crickey!

really, what twisted wankers are at the wheel at the food industries now days? these people scare me.

[EJBasile]

Thanks, and good follow-up as well. As you say, choose healthy, natural "versions" of foods, not preserved, artificially grown, chemically altered/injected imitations. It's not that hard. I love going to my local bakery for fresh-baked multi-grained breads and the local butcher shop for a nice cut of real meat. Does it cost me any extra? No, less in fact in most cases. I love making homemade soup, and enjoy it knowing it contains no preservatives, MSG or other chemicals found in most off-the-shelf soups. Visiting the organic grocery store is simple too, and costs are the same - as are the tastes, so what's the difference? When it comes to chicken, I look for free-range grain-fed chicken, and for salmon, as another example, it has to be fresh, wild and not farmed - the steriods, chemicals and other stuff they feed those poor fish in fish farms in atrocious. As I said, it's not that hard to eat healthy. Maybe this gets back to the fact that a lot of people are lazy when it comes to their health, hence why establishments like McDonald's do so well...

I agreee, I do think people are too lazy to cook food and care about their health. They just grab what they're selling or if it taste good.

If I was to go get a hamburger, instead of going to McDonalds and spending $6.00 or w/e on a big mac, I would rather go to a upscale causal restuant (not like a diner, something nicer) and pay $8.00 hamburger, and $1.50 for a drink. Its only a few dollars more and you don't have eat in a dirty smelly McDonalds. In addition, the hamburger will me much better quality and won't taste like salt when you bite into it. It's still not as healthy as a home made hamburger, but its better than that deep dired fast food. So if you have time, and don't want to cook, go to a resturant.

I go to this one resturant often. It's called the Maple Tree Cafe. They serve excellent food (including hamburgers), and they're only $8.00 or so. They'll probably fill you up better because they aren't filled with sodium. The atmosphere is nice. You can eat outside on this nice area- let the picture show you: (much nicer than Burger King)

http://www.mapletreecafe.com/img/bar/patio0122.jpg

[EJBasile]

http://www.mapletreecafe.com/img/bar/patio0120.jpg

[EJBasile]

it seems only recently that people have started questioning their foods. this is wise considering what is, in fact, in our foods. however i swear i would starve if i thought too much about it. (stinkin thinkin)
i wondered one day what "natural flavoring" "natural flavors" "all natural" "artificial flavoring" etc etc was actually trying to indicate. i mean, natural... as opposed to what, supernatural? anything from cockroach legs to turds can be "natural" what in the world are they trying to tell us. when i read more and starting reading labels i ended up with the most empty shopping cart one could imagine. i had like a gallon of $7 organic milk, some granola (haha) a bag of baby carrots (how do they do that?) and Ben & Jerry's ice cream. i was even upset at the cup o noodles ingredients and it stayed on the shelf. damn information! :D
is there really anything safe to eat anymore? crickey!

really, what twisted wankers are at the wheel at the food industries now days? these people scare me.

Hahah. IF something is artifcally flavored it uses flavors made out of chemicals. But it still amazes me what they can do.

Safe things to eat- anything natural that isn't poisonous. Its not bad to eat a little artificial food. But I don't think eating it as the only thing you eat is not healthy.

A friend of mine actually invents different food items for food companies. He invented was the Nutri-Grain Twist and something for Taco-Bell. And it appears to pay pretty well. He drives an H2 (not discussion :)).


Adiition: SOME Red dyes in food (and other items) are actually come from a bugs eggs

Read about here (http://www.red40.org/pages/editor/index.html)

[iBlue]

Hahah. IF something is artifcally flavored it uses flavors made out of chemicals.

Safe things to eat- anything natural that isn't poisonous. Its not bad to eat a little artificial food. But I don't think eating it as the only thing you eat is not healthy.

A friend of mine actually invents different food items for food companies. He invented was the Nutri-Grain Twist and something for Taco-Bell. And it appears to pay pretty well. He drives an H2 (not discussion :)).

oh i learned what it all meant. ;)
actually in blind taste tests people preferred the taste of artificial vanilla to that of natural/real vanilla, and i am sure it is easier to produce. i understand the concept and benefit in some manner, i just don't like some of the processes used (in various things we consume).

this was an old thought of mine by the way, since then i have managed into a bachelor's degree in chemistry actually, and worked in the field (albeit nothing to do with food) for 2 years, but you learn something every day.

funny enough and to my surprise i found a link where someone said the exact same thing i did about "supernatural" educate yourselves here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17036-2004May11.html) well written and complete info re: "natural" and "artificial"

[EJBasile]

oh i learned what it all meant. ;)
actually in blind taste tests people preferred the taste of artificial vanilla to that of natural/real vanilla, and i am sure it is easier to produce. i understand the concept and benefit in some manner, i just don't like some of the processes used (in various things we consume).

this was an old thought of mine by the way, since then i have managed into a bachelor's degree in chemistry actually, and worked in the field (albeit nothing to do with food) for 2 years, but you learn something every day.

funny enough and to my surprise i found a link where someone said the exact same thing i did about "supernatural" educate yourselves here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17036-2004May11.html) well written and complete info re: "natural" and "artificial"

Read
http://www.red40.org/pages/editor/index.html iBlue!

I actually know someone who won't eat foods that are red (exception of nautally red foods) because it may contain carmine. Carmineaphobe?

[iBlue]

NOOOO... that is just not info i wanted to know. {{shudders}}

http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/bugjuice.htm

i even tried to check to see if it wasn't true, damnitalltohell, it's true. gross.

if i had any self control i'd be anorexic. :p

[EJBasile]

NOOOO... that is just not info i wanted to know. {{shudders}}

http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/bugjuice.htm

i even tried to check to see if it wasn't true, damnitalltohell, it's true. gross.

if i had any self control i'd be anorexic. :p

Hahahah. Want any red jelly beans, red lipstick, red juice, red sprinkles, red frosting, red skittles, or red M&Ms. I wonder if those tomatoes in Fast Food burgers are dyed? My guess- probably.

Yea that red lipsitck your wearing is like having beetle juice on your lips. :eek:

Ohh yea- even better- Cherry Jello: Ground up bones + Beetles.

[iBlue]

Hahahah. Want any red jelly beans, red lipstick, red juice, red sprinkles, red frosting, red skittles, or red M&Ms. I wonder if those tomatoes in Fast Food burgers are dyed? My guess- probably.

Yea that red lipsitck your wearing is like having beetle juice on your lips. :eek:

Ohh yea- even better- Cherry Jello: Ground up bones + Beetles.


YOU PENIS! <evil frown and rude gesture>

i don't wear make-up though, so that is no biggy but the M&M's (and probably "hot tamales") /jelly beans that i cherrish are crushing...
:mad: <- he's dye-free

[EJBasile]

YOU PENIS! <evil frown and rude gesture>

i don't wear make-up though, so that is no biggy but the M&M's (and probably "hot tamales") /jelly beans that i cherrish are crushing...
:mad: <- he's dye-free

Is that "cyber harrasment" or what ever crap they always talk about on the news?

I know it makes you think twice about what your eating.

[emw]

Considering how many bugs I've swallowed riding my bike and running, I don't think a little bug juice will kill me.

However, I don't eat a lot of fast food - when I do it's Quiznos or Subway salads or subs. Not that they're the healthiest, but they're better than the Big Macs of the world. I try to bring my lunch when I can, but it's not always easy to do with my schedule and traveling, etc. Dinner is almost never fast food, since we're not counting pizza ;)

That being said, my BMI is 23, and I'm off to get a physical next week, so I'll have a better idea where I am there. Don't remember the numbers from last year, but the doctor seemed to think they were fine.

I probably should worry more about what goes into the food I eat, but I try to stay with non-processed meats (except in my subs, I suppose), fruits, vegetables, etc. Plus, even the stuff that's labeled "organic" can be misleading.

[jelloshotsrule]

it should be made clear that most meats that one finds and eats is just as gross as fast food. talk about toxins. let's discuss the fact that chickens, cattle, etc eat 1. feces. and 2. each other (after they are dead and ground up. bones and all).

not to mention all the chemicals they pump in them

same comes out in the milk


so as shard (and i think ej) said, if you are going to eat meat, go free range, non bgh, etc..

not to mention the cruelty aspect. ;)

as for the question at hand. i occasionally eat taco bell. it's not good for me, but i enjoy the taste. not eating the meat is a bit of a plus, and i generally steer clear of the cheese and sour cream. i'll have the occasional bk veggie burger simply because that's the only food on certain highways, etc.

[Lacero]

let's discuss the fact that chickens, cattle, etc eat 1. feces. and 2. each other (after they are dead and ground up. bones and all).This is the main cause for bovine spongiform encephalitis and all sorts of other brain diseases. The profit motive and man's mucking with nature means of sorts of this unnatural and cruel acts.

Cows were never meant to be omnivores let alone cannibals, so the build-up of prions and other toxic substances we simply have not yet discovered.

This ********* of our food source is the main reason why cancer and brain diseases like Alzheimer's is prevalent among the rich nations.

[EJBasile]

it should be made clear that most meats that one finds and eats is just as gross as fast food. talk about toxins. let's discuss the fact that chickens, cattle, etc eat 1. feces. and 2. each other (after they are dead and ground up. bones and all).

not to mention all the chemicals they pump in them

same comes out in the milk


so as shard (and i think ej) said, if you are going to eat meat, go free range, non bgh, etc..
nnn
not to mention the cruelty aspect. ;)

as for the question at hand. i occasionally eat taco bell. it's not good for me, but i enjoy the taste. not eating the meat is a bit of a plus, and i generally steer clear of the cheese and sour cream. i'll have the occasional bk veggie burger simply because that's the only food on certain highways, etc.


Well keep in mind when you cook food it kills the bacteria in the food.

I generally buy my meat from a butcher where you can actually see them doing to stuff with the meat- cutting and such. I only buy free range. For fruits I go to a market and for vegetables go to a local farmstand. I do have to go to a Stop & Shop or other large chain to get fuits and veges that are not native to where I live.

I have tried that perdue or something I think (not sure) but it seriosuly tasted like they stuck a syringe in the chicken injected salt water into it to plump it up. All I did was grill it and it tasted like crap, I litterally threw it away.

Fast Food is not deadly if you eat it every so offen. But if your eating a couple times or more a week. thats when you really need to either find a away to get healthier food if your schedule is busy, or if you just eat fast food because you like it, realize all the bad stuff your eating and cut down.

Like I said before, humans were not made to ingest large amounts of sodium and everything else manufacted in those fast food meat products. Humans have lived for thousands of years eating naturally grown food. The only way that we will be able to ingest such high amounts of crap is if we adapt- which of course will take a LONG time.

[quackattack]

Wow, fast food is really gross. I try and claim that I never eat it. To be honest, I probably eat it once a month...

[Lacero]

Well keep in mind when you cook food it kills the bacteria in the food.This doesn't apply to meat from cows inflicted with mad cow disease. Even if you cook it, microwave it or dry it, eating tainted meat will greatly increase your chances of getting CJD.

[~Shard~]

This doesn't apply to meat from cows inflicted with mad cow disease. Even if you cook it, microwave it or dry it, eating tainted meat will greatly increase your chances of getting CJD.

Correct. Further to that, cooking food does not get rid of the steroids the animal was pumped with which is now resident in the meat.

[EJBasile]

This doesn't apply to meat from cows inflicted with mad cow disease. Even if you cook it, microwave it or dry it, eating tainted meat will greatly increase your chances of getting CJD.

Yes but the chances if CJD are very slim. Your chance of getting is 1/1,000,000,000 servings.

CJD and BSE can not be cooked out of foods because the meat contains prions, mutated protiens that lack nucleic acid making them immune to heat and chemicals. Prions cuase BSE and CJD in humans and other diseases in other animals.

[Eevee]

Is Spam & Rice consider fast food?

How about Ramen?

If yes to both, then the answer is too often

[~Shard~]

Is Spam & Rice consider fast food?

If yes to both, then the answer is too often

What type of rice? Natural whole-grain / brown rice, or bleached white rice? Guess which one is better for you? ;)

As for Spam, here are the nutritional facts (or lack thereof) - it's pretty simple to determine how healthy this stuff is for you...

Oh, and that's assuming a 56g serving size. A more realistic serving size, which most people probably consume, is 100g. If so, you'd be looking at roughly 310 calories, 27g of fat, 10g of saturated fat, 70mg of cholesterol and 1370mg of sodium. :eek:

I've never eaten Spam in my life and based on this information, now I never will! :cool:

[Lacero]

Eating animal fat is not deleterious to your health, especially in correct amounts. I would even go as far to say eating the right amount of animal fat is actually healthy for you. Just don't eat pig fat, that will cause cancer.

[Eevee]

What type of rice? Natural whole-grain / brown rice, or bleached white rice? Guess which one is better for you? ;)

White rice since SPAM is already salty! Mmmm...


As for Spam, here are the nutritional facts (or lack thereof) - it's pretty simple to determine how healthy this stuff is for you...

Please don't inform me of the ingredients ( I don't wanna know).

I've never eaten Spam in my life and based on this information, now I never will! :cool:

But it's SPAM and rice!! Had a lot when I was in college since I was poor then. Can't...resist...it...Ahh.....

[Eevee]

Eating animal fat is not deleterious to your health, especially in correct amounts. I would even go as far to say eating the right amount of animal fat is actually healthy for you. Just don't eat pig fat, that will cause cancer.


Mmm...lard. That's what makes hamburgers, fries, and almost everything else in American food taste great.

[EJBasile]

Ooops double post. Except this one was only part of it. :confused:

[Lacero]

I knew someone who lived on instant noodles.

[EJBasile]

I just grabbed a Ramen Packet from the kitchen.

This is Nissan Ramen Chicken Flavor:

Serving Size: 1/2 dry noodle block (lol)
Calories per serving: 190

Per Serving:
Calories from fat: 60
Total Fat: 7g 11%
Sat. Fat: 3.5g 18%
Cholesterol: 0mg 0%
Sodium: 910mg
.....

That means if you eat an entire package of ramen, you have just injested 1820mg of sodium

I occasionally eat roman, like if I have nothing else to eat in my house, but I don't pour in the whole packet of flavoring. Thats where all of the sodium comes from. It also tastes really strong when you do that. I have seen ramen packets with over 1,000mg of sodium per serving in the store!

[Eevee]

I just grabbed a Ramen Packet from the kitchen.

This is Nissan Ramen Chicken Flavor


EJBasile, I like the shirmp flavor better. Oh great...now you're making me hungry for a Ramen!!!

[EJBasile]

EJBasile, I like the shirmp flavor better. Oh great...now you're making me hungry for a Ramen!!!

Well now you've got me looking through my cabnets comparing foods!

Instead of eating that ramen, you could eat 1 serving of pasta and 1 serving of canned sauce. The pasta meal would have less carbs and less sodium than the raman and it will probably fill you up more. If you get rid of the sauce from a jar and you make your own like me, it will be even more healthy. Add in a small salad and two meatball (turkey) and you have yourself a nice little lunch. Better than just a bowl of ramen.

You might say, ohh it takes so much longer to make spaghetti, but one night just make some pasta, and put the leftovers in the fridge. Same with the salad. Just reheat the pasta in the microwave and turkey meatballs don't take very long to cook either in the microwave.

[~Shard~]

Please don't inform me of the ingredients ( I don't wanna know).

You asked... ;)

[oldschool]

Fun Fact:
They contain sodium nitrate which when it gets into your body can create carcinogenic nitrosamines which cause cancer and help it grow.

McDonald's meats are definatly processed......hmm....


sorry doc, you should read up on your nitrate/nitrosamine research. The amounts of nitrates we ingest from processed meats are negligible compared to those we ingest from VEGETABLES. The nitrate scare was a popular tactic in the eighties, but it's unfounded.