iTunes Motorola Phone Manual and Photo

[MacRumors]

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MacnCell reports (http://www.macncell.com/index_html/archive/2005/08/22/itunes-phone-approved-at-fcc) that Motorola has submitted documents to the FCC which includes photos and the owners manual for the upcoming Motorola E790 -- which offers users iTunes Song compatibility, which has been long anticipated.

The site provides a image gallery (http://www.macncell.com/images/e790) of photos of the upcoming phone as well as images from the instruction manual. Instructions provided for the iTunes interface include:

Download music files: On your computer, open iTunes, connect your phone to your computer, and drag and drog music files to your phone.

Play music: iTunes > Songs > song name > Play

Create playlist: On your computer, open iTunes, click the Add (+) button, and type a name for your playlist. Then drag songs from your music library to your playlist. Connect your phone to you computer and drag and drop the playlist onto your phone.


A photo of the front of the phone is provided here (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/e790.png).

[Phat_Pat]

nice.

But how much will it cost?

[camomac]

GREAT NEWS! i have been holding off buying a new phone. i wasn't sure if i wanted the razor, or wait until this came out.

but yeah, how much is a good question, the razor is at $99.00 now, so i guess it depends...

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Not quite as nice as Sony Ericsson's phones, and I'm a bit skeptical about the user interface...
But how much will it cost?I'm really wondering about that, too... if it's cheap enough it might be my next phone... but then it would have to be much cheaper than SE 750i...

[1macker1]

Damn that's a sweet looking phone. And how much memory can it hold.

[Detlev]

Well, that's a boring look. I was hoping for something more Apple.

[camomac]

be warned... the site is SLOoow...

[puckhead193]

the site has a lot of traffic but what companies will this work on/will it be CDMA or GSM :confused:

[Capt Underpants]

It looks pretty Apple to me. If it's for cingular, it will be my next phone.

[Chaszmyr]

Well, that's a boring look. I was hoping for something more Apple.

Apple didn't design it, Motorola did.

[nagromme]

Doesn't seem too exciting--just what was announced all along: iPod-like software on a phone.

Which is fine: it's small news in a sense, since music on phones is unlikely to be ideal for most people--but it's a strategic "just in case" move for Apple in the long run.

I'm not sure why this minor partnership has always gotten so much attention--maybe because the schedule kept slipping?

I never expected Apple-designed hardware, personally, though it would have been cool.

And you never know, there could be more to the partnership than we know.

[narco]

I believe this is old news? I remember seeing this a while back but a lot of people were saying that it wasn't the iTunes phone. I guess I was kind of hoping it wasn't since I think it's pretty damn ugly. It doesn't matter much anyway, I couldn't wait any longer so I just bought a Treo 650 instead and love it to death. Plus with iTunes/Quicktime/VLC/Address book/DVD Player/iPhoto integration, it's more of a iPhone than anything.

Fishes,
narco.

[iGary]

*snore*

Sorry, just doesn't do it for me. :o

[w_parietti22]

Well, that's a boring look. I was hoping for something more Apple.

Its not from Apple! its from motorola! :mad: god damn it. I've been saying that all along!!!

:D (I dont want to come across mad... I'm just a little... annoyed... thats all)

[w_parietti22]

I believe this is old news? I remember seeing this a while back but a lot of people were saying that it wasn't the iTunes phone. I guess I was kind of hoping it wasn't since I think it's pretty damn ugly. It doesn't matter much anyway, I couldn't wait any longer so I just bought a Treo 650 instead and love it to death. Plus with iTunes/Quicktime/VLC/Address book/DVD Player/iPhoto integration, it's more of a iPhone than anything.

Fishes,
narco.

NOOO!!! you have to wait for he 670... oh wait it has Windows Xp... never mind! ;)

[1macker1]

After looking at the pics at another site (the one posted is too slow) i'd have to agree. I'd rather get a Sony Ericsson.
Well, that's a boring look. I was hoping for something more Apple.

[Sun Baked]

This keeps Motorola in the loop, but I seriously doubt this is what people were thinking of when they asked for iTunes to be opened up (because they kept asking for the iPod pop-topped instead.)

[nsjoker]

wtf, it has the same interface as the ipod.. except for once the song is playing and minus scroll wheel.

[aswitcher]

This is a bandaid to get Apple/Moto in the market.

I think the real Apple iPhone is in design now...think 1-2 gig shuffle like, wheel interface etc

[Bibulous]

Wow, that look pretty bad. Seems more like just a phone that supports DMR AAC files then a iTunes phone. Drag and drop?

[puckhead193]

This is a bandaid to get Apple/Moto in the market.

I think the real Apple iPhone is in design now...think 1-2 gig shuffle like, wheel interface etc

Yea i think this will "test" to see if people will buy it and then apple/mot will proceed from their on a design...

[solvs]

Looks like the site has been Slashdotted. And don't worry folks. This is only v. 1.0. I'm sure the next couple of versions will be much better (especially if Apple co-opts their own phone).

[makkystyle]

I submitted this story over a month ago (july 4th) when it first appeared on Endgadget.... with photos of the phone and interface!!! Why no love on the submission?

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000887049175/

edit: and the old photos are much better

[cbr600rr]

GREAT NEWS! i have been holding off buying a new phone. i wasn't sure if i wanted the razor, or wait until this came out.

but yeah, how much is a good question, the razor is at $99.00 now, so i guess it depends...
razr for $99? where?

[hob]

I really really don't like motorola's menu system. I bought RAZR expecting it to be like apple - beautiful to look at and great to use. Turns out Apple truly are unique! Why would they "test the water" with such a fugly phone? Why not just launch the main product? How is this anything like an iPod mini-phone? It's not, it's more like a phone with support for certain file types... It doesn't make sense.

[hob]

razr for $99? where?
I got mine for £50 = $100ish... from Orange (http://www.orange.co.uk) - but i'd really really recommend getting a Sony Ericsson instead, or a Nokia if you're my mum :p

[cbr600rr]

razr for $99? where?

nevermind... $69.99 w/ 2 yr plan from cingular thru http://www.bestbuy.com/

[hyperpasta]

Wow, that look pretty bad. Seems more like just a phone that supports DMR AAC files then a iTunes phone. Drag and drop?

Noooooooo, you think? That's all this was supposed to be! Altohugh I did expect a better design. Now we need to see pricing and networks supported.

[quigleybc]

I want it....Give it to me immediately..

[Sirus The Virus]

I wish Apple would have designed it.

[arn]

I submitted this story over a month ago (july 4th) when it first appeared on Endgadget.... with photos of the phone and interface!!! Why no love on the submission?

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000887049175/

edit: and the old photos are much better

Posted on July 3rd: http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/07/20050703222549.shtml

These are different photos. The instruction manual is also new.

arn

[sinisterdesign]

now i can take music w/ me on a small portable device wherever i go???

...zzzzzzzzzzzz....

i don't know, maybe it's b/c i don't use my phone that much or maybe it's b/c i'm over tired candybar style phones, but this just doesn't excite me. hopefully it excites somebody...

[pammyspyce]

I guess this is cool if you hate carrying your iPod and your cell phone. But it's really not *that* impressive. :confused:

[Dagless]

Id get this if Siemens weren't so perfect, and if I didn't already have an iPod.

looks good though. my cousin has the black version of this and its a very nice phone indeed.

[angelneo]

Frankly speaking, I find Motorola new mobile phones interface very clunky, unappealing and slow comparing to sony ericsson phones. Hence, I don't really have high hopes for this new iTunes phone. Dragging and dropping music files? seems like this is what I have been doing with my xphoneII/i-mate SP3 all along. Nothing really new.

[BornAgainMac]

No thanks. I'll just get some scotch tape and stick my Shuffle onto my existing phone. Too bad Apple doesn't create phones.

[AoWolf]

Ugly I wonder how many songs it will hold (considering they have said it won't dl them).

[noel4r]

Hmmm, how will SJ sell this ugly phone next month at the Paris Expo?

[Bibulous]

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[Lollypop]

I know moto designed the phone, but couldnt they at least have tried something else than making their boring bla bricks white? Lets hope moto updated the other internal features as well, or Apple might just regret this little partnership.

[oskar]

Hmm, I think the phone looks only OK. They could have made it look better for it to be the first iTunes compatible phone.
I don't see what the big deal is about the phone if you can't download songs from the iTMS. I don't think the phone could replace even an iPod Shuffle anyway. They should have let the phone be the Shuffle's screen. That would be a handy feature.

I don't think Apple will make too much of a buzz with this. Maybe only a small mention in the upcoming Apple Expo.

[Benner]

I think it's crap -- the manual says "American Online" -- What's that... Seems a little fishy to me!

[zissou]

and so apple has to love this ugly little bastard of a phone. but isn´t it time to stop hiding behind motorola and get a proper job done? the sony walkman phone is way ahead of this junk.
don´t loose your leadership.

[yankeedoodle]

What an ugly little bugger! Motorolas look and feel of their devices is about as Un-Apple as it can get, anyway! Tried to switch from my SonyEricsson with a cool slick interface (closest to what we love on our Mac, IMHO) to a Moto phone a few months ago. Had to switch back to SonyEricsson again because I coun't stand the messed-up Moto list-type interface with the ugliest icons ever created on this planet.

Can't believe that Apple did infact choose such an ugly interface for its first step in the cell phone market! Let me make this one clear here: Cell phones are parts of fashion -- not of pure technology anymore! You cannot sell a phone just by telling pleople how many features it has -- you have to sell them a phone they actually want to carry around with them all day.

Remains to be seen how far that iPod halo can actually glow! :)

[FunkSpaceMonkey]

That's a really ugly phone!

[JoeG4]

I don't think you guys are being fair at all here.

The difference between the iTunes phone and the Sony Walkman phone is this:

The Sony Walkman phone, as it is now, is a >$700 phone that probably won't be released in the US anytime soon. Look, you all know Sony as well as I do, and they don't like us out here in the US, so yeah.. forget it. That phone has yuppie written all over it, right down to the price tag.

Motorola's phones are made as phones first and toys second. If you don't really believe that, maybe you're not all that familiar with them, honestly I've used a bunch of different brands of phones and although Motorola certainly doesn't necessarily have the prettiest phones, they are quite functional, here's some things I can never find *right* on other manufactuers' phones:

*Customizable main screen
*changing the ring volume/tone by the buttons on the side
*"back" "menu" "action" -- if you've ever used a samsung after using a motorola you'd pull your hair about this one not existing.
*the UI stays uniform for the most part...

which it does. Admittedly this isn't the nicest looking phone in the world, but when I look at it with its all silver design, it actually does look pretty decent, probably the nicest candybar I've seen that'll be for sale in the US in a while.

That said, the ROKR/iTunes phone will have two qualities you'll NEVER see in the Sony phone I'm positive:

1. You'll either be able to get it for cheap, or for free
2. It'll do what it does good :)

I dunno, feel free to flame me. I'm not a "blind apple supporter here", I just think the iTunes phone is going to be a good product.

Not to mention unlike the lousy two-tone scheme of the walkman phone, this can actually match your powerbook if you have one :D

[tsaxer]

Ugly I wonder how many songs it will hold (considering they have said it won't dl them).
Yeah, that's the real sticking point for me. I've almost bought a razr, but I can never find specs (or a stupid salesperson) that would give me a hint of capacity. Add to that Moto/Cingular's current weirdness about transfering files to your phone, and I decided to wait.
Basically, I'm just looking for a flash based player functionality for when I work out so that I wont have to carry 2 devices with me, but if the capacity is miniscule, I might just get the sony/ericson swivel thing, a\t least it has a slot for more memory.
If anyone knows about the razr, tho, let me know...

[Xephian]

Looks a little ugly.

[AmigoMac]

Siemens and Perfect in the same sentence... :eek:
Let's see what the future brings for BenQ after all.
But Siemens... :rolleyes: .
Moto's GUI sucks (IMO). Nokia and SE have a big advantage already.

[Demon Hunter]

Why are cell phone makers so thick in the head? And why are U.S carriers even more thick in the head? Seems like only Asia knows how to do it right.

I am with you guys, I'm on the fence with iTunes phone/V3/??. Apple has spoiled us. Buying a cell phone is like falling into the abyss.

[Gee]

I really really don't like motorola's menu system. I bought RAZR expecting it to be like apple - beautiful to look at and great to use. Turns out Apple truly are unique! Why would they "test the water" with such a fugly phone? Why not just launch the main product? How is this anything like an iPod mini-phone? It's not, it's more like a phone with support for certain file types... It doesn't make sense.

Yeh, I'm about to take my RAZR back today - woeful user interface! Sooooo slow. And soooo kinda wrong. I mean, my first ever mobile managed to have a recurrent alarm on it back in the mid 90s; with the V3, it seems you have to enable it every day. And who wants their sent texts listed by content rather than who they were to? And how do you know whether bluetooth is switched on if there's no icon on the main screen? And...well, I could go on and on. Total POS, and if Motorola's iTunes phone has the same functionality, I'd steer well clear. Sony Ericsson anyday.

[MacRy]

Someone please put a call in to Mr Ive and get him on the case.

[AlBDamned]

I honestly feel this phone is going to be a huge disappointment, visually and in the case of the UI. It's been so long coming and for it to look as dull as it does.... For me, yeah, the iTunes compatibility will be cool, but no, that's not enough to make that particular phone worthwhile.

[Applespider]

Motorola's phones are made as phones first and toys second.

*Customizable main screen
*changing the ring volume/tone by the buttons on the side
*"back" "menu" "action" -- if you've ever used a samsung after using a motorola you'd pull your hair about this one not existing.
*the UI stays uniform for the most part...


Hmm... I'm another non-fan of Motorola's UI and a bigger fan of SE's (not the w800 Walkman phone in particular which functionality wise has a normal headphone jack, different media player and a bigger Memory Stick difference from the k750). My sister had a Motorola (which I used occasionally) and the only easy thing about it was dialling a number. I found the address book on the Motorola particularly bad since I had to have multiple entries for each person rather than my single entry with multiple details associated with it.

The SE's that I've used lately (t68i, k700, k750) have all had those 4 facilities or something similar. The main screen can't be customised by feature although design can be but you can add shortcuts to the joystick/menu button to access your most frequently used ones. However, each of us will probably always prefer the phone manufacturer that we've got most used to and could probably argue our points for hours so back to the iTunes phone...

I think the phone as pictured looks dreadful and is already out of date in terms of its functionality (camera quality). The only thing going for it is the ability to play purchased iTunes songs - the SE's already play normal AAC iTunes files quite easily.

[ajbaker]

The phone looks bland, the interface is as bad as all other Motorola phones (not only does it look awful but it is bad to use). I wont be buying one, but more importantly I am concerned Apple will loose the credibility they so richly deserve as being easy to use and beautiful devices.

Why oh why?

I hope I am wrong, and I hope people disagree with me.

[AlBDamned]

Hmm... I'm another non-fan of Motorola's UI and a bigger fan of SE's...

My sister had a Motorola (which I used occasionally) and the only easy thing about it was dialling a number. I found the address book on the Motorola particularly bad since I had to have multiple entries for each person rather than my single entry with multiple details associated with it.

The SE's that I've used lately (t68i, k700, k750) have all had those 4 facilities or something similar. The main screen can't be customised by feature although design can be but you can add shortcuts to the joystick/menu button to access your most frequently used ones. However, each of us will probably always prefer the phone manufacturer that we've got most used to and could probably argue our points for hours so back to the iTunes phone...

I think the phone as pictured looks dreadful and is already out of date in terms of its functionality (camera quality). The only thing going for it is the ability to play purchased iTunes songs - the SE's already play normal AAC iTunes files quite easily.


Agreed, Motorola really cannot hold a candle to SE phones and have not done for a while IMO. The Razor looks cool but it's spec and functionality, even call quality, is poor in my own experience.

As a direct competitor (even down to the white casing) and now having used one for a couple of weeks, the W800i eats it for breakfast. Once you adapt to the slightly elongated process of mp3 transfers from Mac to phone, it's superb. An iTunes interface would be great and would be slightly better, but side by side to the Moto iPhone, it still wins on practically everything else.

Applespider: I see you're really going places with your 'tar!

[ajbaker]

The spec of the RAZR is adequate for a fashion phone, and it looks damn good, even compared to SE, but the interface lands it smack on its face.

Everytime I see someone parading around with a RAZR I dont feel admiration for someone with a fantastic phone, I feel sorry (and lose respect) for them choosing form over function.

I know nothing about its call quality.

[AlBDamned]

The spec of the RAZR is adequate for a fashion phone

I don't agree. When it came out the V3 cost a fortune but you were paying all that money for the slinky design. Other phones in that price range at that time were far better equipped. It's 5MB memory is outdone by a toaster these days.

The iTunes phone will suffer similarly as it's already woefully equipped (and outdated tech-wise, as noted before). It's also reasonably likely to have a price premium attached to it that is unjustifiable. Unless Apple has redesigned the entire UI to stop itself being associated with a ham-fisted OS, this phone will suck.


I know nothing about its call quality.

Raspy and metallic sounding. But this could well be the particular phone.

[hob]

Yeh, I'm about to take my RAZR back today - woeful user interface! Sooooo slow. And soooo kinda wrong. I mean, my first ever mobile managed to have a recurrent alarm on it back in the mid 90s; with the V3, it seems you have to enable it every day. And who wants their sent texts listed by content rather than who they were to? And how do you know whether bluetooth is switched on if there's no icon on the main screen? And...well, I could go on and on. Total POS, and if Motorola's iTunes phone has the same functionality, I'd steer well clear. Sony Ericsson anyday.
Umm, I'm not backtracking - I still don't love it, but this weekend I pulled out my olllld PC and hooked it up to all my lovely apple hardware, plugged in my RAZR downloaded a huge amount of surprisingly available software for modding my RAZR, and updated the firmware on it. It added the following notable features:
*Ability to search multiple letters in the address book
*Faster text messaging
*Video recording

Still, the bluetooth icon only appears when it's in use, the address book has an entry for each number over each name, and now i've flashed my phone I can't work out how to get my Orange GPRS working again! I've got the settings I just can't figure out where to put them :p

[Platform]

Well maybe we will see it when the first Intel boxes will be introduced.........hehehe

[d.perel]

sony already has a pretty cool walkman phone out anyway. This one better have some sort of awesome camera or call quality or something to kick it along the sales track

[SiliconAddict]

Has anyone else stopped giving a crap a few months back? The drama that is the iTunes phone has really irked me. Someday we will learn what the heck happened behind the scenes and its probably going to be some corp political BS or something. :(

[AlBDamned]

Has anyone else stopped giving a crap a few months back? The drama that is the iTunes phone has really irked me. Someday we will learn what the heck happened behind the scenes and its probably going to be some corp political BS or something. :(

True. It wouldn't surprise me if it was canned to be honest. I know it's unlikely, but it's a turkey. Why they didn't choose Nokia I will never know (Sony Ericsson obviously not a possibility).

[JulesTM]

Im just waiting for apple to update iTunes so my E790 fricken works already.

http://www.spymac.com/gallery/show_memberpics.php?memberid=1048&ppp=12&ppp=7&typ=

It works fine with itunes (but slow) on my PC, but my itunes on my mac doesn't see the phone! Apple isn't putting much attention to the Motorola deal, its just another business deal like the hp ipods. iTunes isn't even built in, its a java app.

Its nothing to get really excited over, and the phone is really cheap anyway, will go for £99 with no contract. Steve will probably talk longer about ipods in cars, than this phone.

[Piarco]

Looks fair to say that the majority of us are disappointed. I know its a Moto design, but considering what they're trying to appeal to - folks who love the design of an iPod - they've done a woeful job. It really does look like a bog standard candy bar Moto in white. A shame.

As may have already pointed out Moto's have arguably the worst operating system out of the 5 major players - something that stopped me from getting a razr when I had the chance. The strange thing is they have proven (a lot) recently that they can design good phones: RAZR, SLVR and PEBL - all look great at the least.

I got a Nokia 3230 instead and I love it. Does everything I need it to do, with additional fun like the full version of Doom and Worms Golf. Give it a 2MP camera and flash, stereo MP3 (only mono annoyingly despite having a stereo radio) a better MP3 player (the bundled Realplayer is pants - need to download a 3rd party app) and some comfortable headphones and it would be perfect for me. As it is, I'll be upgrading to the Nokia N70 when its released as it addresses those problems.....

As AlBDamned says, I've no idea why they didn't go with Nokia....

[freddiecable]

I agree with most of u guys.

The phone looks mediocre and the menu's looks poor and non-apple.

[kirk26]

Posted on July 3rd: http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/07/20050703222549.shtml

These are different photos. The instruction manual is also new.

arn

LoL! You didn't even read what makkystyle wrote. The Engadget posting is his.

[AlBDamned]

I don't think you guys are being fair at all here.

The difference between the iTunes phone and the Sony Walkman phone is this:

The Sony Walkman phone, as it is now, is a >$700 phone that probably won't be released in the US anytime soon. Look, you all know Sony as well as I do, and they don't like us out here in the US, so yeah.. forget it. That phone has yuppie written all over it, right down to the price tag.



I think you may be surprised when you read this: (www.infosync.net)


Following hot on the heels of European availability, Sony Ericsson today confirmed that its W800 walkman phone will make its debut in the US on August 26, only two weeks after its introduction in Europe. The handset will be a carbon copy of its European counterpart apart from its adaptation for US GSM bands with 850/1800/1900 MHz connectivity, and features 38 MB of internal memory along with the ability to accept Memory Stick Duo PRO cards for expansion. Other features of the W800 include a 2 Megapixel camera, as well as an integrated stereo FM radio and a 262K colour screen with a resolution of 176 x 220 pixels. To sell for $499 USD, the handset will soon see a companion in the recently announced W600, Sony Ericsson's other Walkman branded handset for the US market.

Plus - on a good contract you can get it for free. I did.

[mproud]

I love the “DSIPLAY”

[AlBDamned]

I love the “DSIPLAY”


the waht?

[doucy2]

i think its alight the design could have been better
ill still buy it cause i take my mini and cell everywhere i go so why not have it all in one
hope it comes out in black

[AlBDamned]

i think its alight the design could have been better
ill still buy it cause i take my mini and cell everywhere i go so why not have it all in one
hope it comes out in black

This is what I've found great with the w800, but you'll need to stump up for a hefty memory card to get it even close to a shuffle (which was due to be my next purchase before I got the sony but that's over now).

How big do transflash cards go?

[jared_kipe]

You guys realize all phones are close to free if you shop for plans online. Letstalk.com and amazon.com both give away great rebates.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/301185/ref=two_tab_w/103-9137929-7871822

EDIT: And the Nokia 6230 plays non protected AAC's too.

[VanMac]

Boring......

Too bad....I'm in the market for a new phone.

[AlBDamned]

You guys realize all phones are close to free if you shop for plans online. Letstalk.com and amazon.com both give away great rebates.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/301185/ref=two_tab_w/103-9137929-7871822

EDIT: And the Nokia 6230 plays non protected AAC's too.

Just had a look at that site - you guys got a star wars SE S710!

Edit: Not that clever really, just a load of pics and software. Ah well.

[jared_kipe]

Boring......

Too bad....I'm in the market for a new phone.

Go to a Cingular store and look at the Audiovox SMT5600. Gotta be the best phone ever. But I think they are gonna replace it with something better pretty soon.

[jared_kipe]

Just had a look at that site - you guys got a star wars SE S710!

Edit: Not that clever really, just a load of pics and software. Ah well.

I believe it only has a starwars background and 2 ring tones.

[AlBDamned]

I believe it only has a starwars background and 2 ring tones.


Not worth the extra $ but still....

I had an S700i for about a month last year, free on upgrade, but it was too big and the slide got on my nerves. Sold it for £285 on ebay. Great capabilities though and the screen was a great resolution – better than the new W800i, for sure (screen - not phone!).

[addiecool]

The phone sucks period. I am so tired of the e398 design that I would not buy the phone for $10. Wehn you bring out something revolutionary make a better design. I am better off buying a iPod.

[iDrinkKoolAid]

I for one, am excited about this phone. As someone who has never owned a mobile telephone, an iTunes phone is reason enough. The Kool-Aid is getting to my head! :) My girlfriend has been bugging me to get a mobile telephone and I am just waiting for the big announcement...

[conditionals]

It's funny because a lot of us were expecting something totally AWESOME and SURPRISING on release, but assuming we would never know until it is actually in stores because, you know, why would a company show pictures of the product before it is released?

And then... oh wait, this isn't apple. Looks like it was just this boring old speculated phone after all. Next thing there will even be a RELEASE DATE OMG OMG OMG OMG.

[toughboy]

There is no way that this ugly thing will compete SonyEricsson's W800.

After the release of W800, I was expecting something better from Motorola/Apple, but i guess I'll be buying a K750i and installing 512mb memory or just buy a W800...

This is so ugly that it can't be Jon Ive's work..

[toughboy]

Someone please put a call in to Mr Ive and get him on the case.

I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!

HEY JON, GET YOUR GRAPHIC TABLET AND DESIGN A PHONE FOR US MAN.. PLEASE!

[iMeowbot]

the site has a lot of traffic but what companies will this work on/will it be CDMA or GSM :confused:
The FCC application lists the unit as a "Portable Cellular/PCS GSM transceiver with embedded Bluetooth transceiver".

[AlBDamned]

iTunes isn't even built in, its a java app.
.


Does anyone know if that's right? If so, iTunes could run on most of the top end phones?

[iomar]

Again.... We keep hearing about this rumor. But it is never coming.

[iMeowbot]

Does anyone know if that's right? If so, iTunes could run on most of the top end phones?
Moto have already demonstrated iTunes running on other phones, so it shouldn't be a surprise if it appears on more of the product line.

[AlBDamned]

Moto have already demonstrated iTunes running on other phones, so it shouldn't be a surprise if it appears on more of the product line.

Then this 'iTunes Phone' is completely and utterly pointless. Apple would have been far better off making it a downloadable program (a la the full size iTunes), for mobiles rather than faff about with the world's biggest producer of cr*p phones.

A poor collaboration, there is no doubt about it.

[xy14]

With the speediness and convenience of the FCC, we might even get to use this phone in the US in late 2007! My guess is that it will be around $100-$200 with some kind of two-year agreement.

[iMeowbot]

Then this 'iTunes Phone' is completely and utterly pointless. Apple would have been far better off making it a downloadable program (a la the full size iTunes), for mobiles rather than faff about with the world's biggest producer of cr*p phones.

A poor collaboration, there is no doubt about it.
I wouldn't be so quick to judge that. The other models were fancier than this one, this may be the entry level iTunes phone.

[AlBDamned]

I wouldn't be so quick to judge that. The other models were fancier than this one, this may be the entry level iTunes phone.


Entry level is one way to describe it.

You're right, it is too soon to really judge it as a system. However, there is no changing my view that, generally, Moto phones are lacking in desirability, quality, features and aesthetics (bar the Razr which is love it or loathe it).

There is obviously a reason Apple did not choose Nokia, but iTunes on a Nokia, using the Symbian OS, would appear to be a fair bit better than the E790 we are currently looking at which is, in no uncertain words, crap.

[VicMacs]

I think that theyre late with this... too much hype for something thats not going to be so big. EVERYBODY has a cool cell phone that will last them at least 2 more years... and an ipod as well... late on that motorola... late as always...

[BRLawyer]

All I can say about Moto's new phone is...YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN..!

[ijimk]

i plan on geting one, as i dont currently have a cell phone anymore i have been holding out for an apple cell :)

[brians.account]

but...but what about ical...address book? </3 :(

[MSkrin99]

There is a brief podcast on the new iTunes phone offered by a news radio outfit in Philadelphia:

iTunes Phone Podcast (http://podcast.medianext.com/clicktrack/?media=%2Fstations%2Fkyw%2Fmedia%2Fmpeg%2FApple_and_Cingular_in_iPod_Cell_Deal_.mp3&inf_user_session=5ddca60dd86c88bbdf406c00cdbb7c00&inf_user_session=5ddca60dd86c88bbdf406c00cdbb7c00)

or... http://podcast.medianext.com/clicktrack/?media=%2Fstations%2Fkyw%2Fmedia%2Fmpeg%2FApple_and_Cingular_in_iPod_Cell_Deal_.mp3&inf_user_session=5ddca60dd86c88bbdf406c00cdbb7c00&inf_user_session=5ddca60dd86c88bbdf406c00cdbb7c00

[javiercr]

It looks pretty Apple to me. .

????? :confused: ?????

[javiercr]

Ugly.
Dull.
Boring.
Uninspiring.

Should look more like a Razor V3 which is the only good looking thing motorota has even made (imho)

[mashinhead]

does anyone really want an iTunes phone. I sure as hell don't. But what i do want is an apple smartphone, why don't they do that.

oh and the phone really isn't new. its a previous motorola design. I used to have one. it just has iTunes on it.

[dejo]

Looks like they ripped of the UI from the Creative Zen. ;)

[AlBDamned]

does anyone really want an iTunes phone. I sure as hell don't. But what i do want is an apple smartphone, why don't they do that.

oh and the phone really isn't new. its a previous motorola design. I used to have one. it just has iTunes on it.


A real Apple (Ive) designed phone would be awesome. They are in consumer elctronics, it should be done. My guess is that's a tricky road due to the demands of the service providers. Apple maybe does not want to be at their mercy.