Ellen Feiss Interviewed

[MacRumors]

Brown Daily Herald (http://www.browndailyherald.com/post/stories.asp?ID=269) publishes a first-ever interiew of Ellen Feiss from Apple's Switch Ad:

Key notes:

- The story was true.
- Her paper was on Chinatown
- She's in talks with MTV

[Hemingray]

Ah, but the REAL question remains: Was she STONED? :p

[Edit: Hm, she was on Benedryl, huh? How anti-climatic... ;) of course, I doubt she'd actually admit to being on any illegal substances anyway... If that's what she says, though, I believe her.]

[dricci]

Let's just hope she remembers what made her famous (Apple) if she gets an MTV show.

Now it's time to start the count down of how long it'll take for that site to get slash dotted and crash and burn (.asp? it looks like it's on NT! watch out!)

[Megaquad]

I knew she was on drugs :D

[Mr. Anderson]

Oh, this is fantastic - I really wanted to see someone interview her -

We didn’t think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. Can be taken as the munchies?

Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
Oh, whatever, I think it’s kind of funny. These people don’t have lives.

I got a lot of crazy offers. I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on “Regis and Kelly,” and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically. MTV’s a little cooler.
She's also pretty smart and seems rather well grounded.

Has Apple tried to contact you since all this happened?
They contacted me to supposedly advise me. They were like, “We don’t really want you to take this anywhere,” but I decided to get an agent anyway. I went to Macworld in July. It seems like the kind of thing where if you’re not in the biz …. I thought it was the most boring thing. I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, “Wow, I’m at the Oscars or something,” but then I was like, “No, I’m at Macworld.” I met Steve Jobs. He called me by my first name — clever, huh? It was brief.

Hmm, wonder why Apple is against the fame aspect - makes her no longer part of the regular people? Strange.

Very cool - I'm sure the fan sites are eating this up.

D

[irmongoose]

Hahahahaahhaha.. she WAS on drugs!!

Anyways, this pretty much cleared up what she really is like.. she's just a normal, average American girl...

shucks.




irmongoose

[Billy_ca]

Funniest part of the interview:

they wanted me to be in one of their movies, but since they found out how old I was they don’t think I can be in one

Second funniest part of the interview:

and I was like, “Wow, I’m at the Oscars or something,” but then I was like, “No, I’m at Macworld.”

[unclepain]

"Hmm, wonder why Apple is against the fame aspect - makes her no longer part of the regular people? Strange."

Well, the reason Apple doesn't want her to draw too much attention is because of why she is famous. I mean, let's face it- if she didn't look stoned in the ads, people would never be talking about Ellen Feiss. I doubt Apple really wants that kind of PR.

MTV watching teenager- "Wow, Ellen is cool cause everyone tells me she smokes pot. Sweet! I'm gonna buy a Mac cause they're good computers for stoners."

[robguz]

Well the Benadryl part is totally believable. I've had terrible allergies all my life and even a couple years ago my boss said I looked stoned cuz my eyes were so glazed over too. I also remember being a teen, before they had the non-drowsy meds like Allegra and I spent 3 months every spring in a half asleep daze when taking allergy meds. I still won't even take older allergy meds as an adult unless I am trying to fall asleep. It's funny, because in the interview, she talks exactly like you'd expect her too--doesn't sound scripted at all which is refreshing.

[merkn]

Originally posted by unclepain
MTV watching teenager- "Wow, Ellen is cool cause everyone tells me she smokes pot. Sweet! I'm gonna buy a Mac cause they're good computers for stoners."
well, they are, aren't they?

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by merkn

well, they are, aren't they?

Here here!

its troooooo

[eyelikeart]

Duh!!! :eek:

we knew it had to be something...u know...

since we don't have lives or anything...

he he...poor ellen..."here's a tissue for your runny nose" :D

[lmalave]

As long as we're on the subject of Switch ads, here's a hilarious, dead-on parody. I'm sure on a site like this everybody's seen this by now, but it's worth reposting in case there's anybody that hasn't:

http://www.fandango.net/switched.mov

[Thirteenva]

A lot of people, (the media included) have an unnatural obsession with this girl. T shirts?? cofee mugs???

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Thirteenva
A lot of people, (the media included) have an unnatural obsession with this girl. T shirts?? cofee mugs???

The only Ellen Feiss printed item I've seen is the one in the Apple Store along with all the other switch ad people. I don't think I'd ever want to have an Ellen Feiss shirt or mug - I'd not want to be seen in public with the things.

Like she said, people need to get a life. And the look alike contest was pretty damn funny, though.

D

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by dukestreet


The only Ellen Feiss printed item I've seen is the one in the Apple Store along with all the other switch ad people. I don't think I'd ever want to have an Ellen Feiss shirt or mug - I'd not want to be seen in public with the things.

Like she said, people need to get a life. And the look alike contest was pretty damn funny, though.

D

There's a site... ellenfeiss.net i believe... they have frisbees, mugs, t-shirts, mouse pads, the whole deal. More stuff than the MR store. ;)

Anyone surprised she's only 15? looked older to me. still does. although it seems like 15 year olds all look about 20 these days. All the additives in just about any food... it seems.

[AmigaMac]

Originally posted by dukestreet


And the look alike contest was pretty damn funny, though.

D

Well the Dutch have a weird sense of humor :D

[nickmcghie]

hahahhaa!... look whats happening to the website:

HTTP Error 403

403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected

This error can be caused if the Web server is busy and cannot process your request due to heavy traffic. Please try to connect again later.

Please contact the Web server's administrator if the problem persists.

looks like the doing of all those people at slashdot.org.. hehe =)

[vniow]

Originally posted by Moxiemike

Anyone surprised she's only 15? looked older to me. still does. although it seems like 15 year olds all look about 20 these days. All the additives in just about any food... it seems.


Wha huh?!

I could swear she's about my age. There's just no way she can be 15, I don't think I know any other 15 years olds that look that 18 like that.

[agreenster]

Dell has Steve

Apple has Ellen

Both kinda quirky, both irresistable.

Maybe they should get together. :rolleyes:

[dricci]

Originally posted by agreenster
Dell has Steve

Apple has Ellen

Both kinda quirky, both irresistable.

Maybe they should get together. :rolleyes:

Dude, did you read the interview? :p

[Thirteenva]

Originally posted by Moxiemike


There's a site... ellenfeiss.net i believe... they have frisbees, mugs, t-shirts, mouse pads, the whole deal. More stuff than the MR store. ;)

Anyone surprised she's only 15? looked older to me. still does. although it seems like 15 year olds all look about 20 these days. All the additives in just about any food... it seems.

I actually figured she was 13 or 14. I don't think she looks older. I'm only 24 but for some reason, anything under 20 seems like "just a kid".

*****, i'm getting old, ahhhhhhh :(

[agreenster]

Originally posted by dricci


Dude, did you read the interview? :p

Why did I miss something? The server is rejecting every attempt to load the page.

[MacBandit]

Only 15!! Damn guess we'll have to wait 3 years for her to make the jump into porn. :D

[dricci]

Ah, I knew the server would probably get overloaded (that's why I made a PDF of the page early this morning :D)

Here's what you missed

Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?
No, none whatsoever. That guy’s a doofus. I
get a lot of, “What if you guys had kids?” And
I’m like “What if we had kids?” Why would
you ask that? What a weird question. They’d
probably be blond.

[AaronAdams]

I'm so fscking sick of hearing about this girl. Really, she's nobody. She's very plain and boring and it's just sad that socially retarded, internet-obsessed shut-ins and horny teenage boys have clung to her for reasons intelligent people can't lower themselves to understand.

Fame is fleeting, everyone.

[agreenster]

What is UP with people nowadays on MacRumors???

I quit posting for a few weeks, and when I come back its nothing but a bunch of angry jerk-offs who insist on saying they are sick oh hearing this and that.

Its a FORUM. You are going to hear nothing BUT 'this and that.'

If you are tired of Ellen Feiss, then dont click the post that says "Ellen Feiss Interviewed"

Are you a dumb-ass or WHAT? Jesus!

----------

Anyway, I got to read the article, and maybe ellen does have half a brain. It was late, after schol, no makeup, and on benadryl. Excuses enough for me.

[MacBandit]

Besides most of us agree that we couldn't care less about her. Though if someone is going to joke about here I have no problems throwing in a few.:)

[evilpenguin21]

Man, that chick rules. I've seen that commercial like 20 times and everytime she's says, "And I was like... buh..." I still laugh. She deserves all the fame she gets!!

[Mr. Anderson]

I'm less interested in Ellen and more interested (morbidly so, I think) in all the crap that has generated from the ad. Its pretty sad, actually - but it was good reading about the interview, especially her comment about all the idiots who need to get a life.

Like Aaron says - Fame is fleeting. This will all pass away and we'll have something else to talk about in a year or so.

Silliness, all of it.

D

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by AaronAdams
I'm so fscking sick of hearing about this girl. Really, she's nobody. She's very plain and boring and it's just sad that socially retarded, internet-obsessed shut-ins and horny teenage boys have clung to her for reasons intelligent people can't lower themselves to understand.

Fame is fleeting, everyone.

Hm....doesn't take a psychologist to notice that Aaron seems to maybe have a teensy-weensy bit of jealousy in this post? Maybe because his commercial isn't airing anymore? Or maybe because the macrumors welcome wagon when he came aboard has dwindled and begun posting in the official poop thread or this one?

Could he be projecting a lil' bit? I don't mean to be rude to the switch star... but man is that a caustic post. "really, she's nobody." is a little harsh. She's captured some folks' imagination, whether they're internet shut ins or not, and what's so wrong with that?

She's a dorky girl who's getting some attention. better her than, say Christina Aquilera or Britney or some other manufactured pop-star.

And Aaron, let me say from experience-- I think we're ALL a bit socially retarded, and it seems to me that your post exhibits that, yes, you're "socially retarded" as well.

Sheesh.

[Hmm]

Originally posted by Moxiemike


Hm....doesn't take a psychologist to notice that Aaron seems to maybe have a teensy-weensy bit of jealousy in this post? Maybe because his commercial isn't airing anymore?
Maybe he just wants some socially retarded, internet-obsessed shut-ins and horny teenage girls to create a website dedicated to him.

Ellen's okay, but I like Janie Porsche better.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by Hmm

Maybe he just wants some socially retarded, internet-obsessed shut-ins and horny teenage girls to create a website dedicated to him.

Ellen's okay, but I like Janie Porsche better.

I agree. Janie has some joie de vivre. Very light-hearted and bright. Very cool. Something about that mega-watt smile.... :)

There was one ad... what was his name? Adam Aarons? I don't remember much. It was very dull and boring. Flat as a pre-teen girl. Just lacked any charisma and personality. He was plain and boring. I think it's more likely that the teenage girls might be more inclined to do as the boys do--make sites about Ellen Feiss. But i digress.

[Mr. Anderson]

Lets not make these personal, ok? Play nice!

D

[Padrote]

If the Dell Dude and Ellen Feiss ended up sleeping together, I wonder what their kid would look like?

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by dukestreet
Lets not make these personal, ok? Play nice!

D

Ok. ok, duke. I just feel like it's pretty lame when someone attacks people who don't have the voice to speak up for themselves. I mean, i know it's a public forum. but still. The only line is the post that made sense was the whole fame is fleeting bit.

And, unfortunately, I'm brutally honest....

m

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by Moxiemike

Hm....doesn't take a psychologist to notice that Aaron seems to maybe have a teensy-weensy bit of jealousy in this post?

I knew someone would say this. It's simply not the case. I have no desire to be on MTV. I don't like Farelli Brotehrs movies. I have nothing to say to any late night talk show host.

I care about Apple. I want them to be successful. I want this ad campaign to do good things for a company I believe makes great computers. I don't want this entire campaign to be characterized by an underage girl doped up on Benadryl when so many other switchers have substanitive things to say.

Maybe because his commercial isn't airing anymore? Or maybe because the macrumors welcome wagon when he came aboard has dwindled and begun posting in the official poop thread or this one?

I got my 13 weeks of commercial time just like anyone else. And believe me, the welcome wagon is still out in full force.

Could he be projecting a lil' bit? I don't mean to be rude to the switch star... but man is that a caustic post. "really, she's nobody." is a little harsh. She's captured some folks' imagination, whether they're internet shut ins or not, and what's so wrong with that?

Yes, its caustic because of the reasons I explained above.

And Aaron, let me say from experience-- I think we're ALL a bit socially retarded, and it seems to me that your post exhibits that, yes, you're "socially retarded" as well.

Sheesh.

I disagree.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
Ok. ok, duke. I just feel like it's pretty lame when someone attacks people who don't have the voice to speak up for themselves. I mean, i know it's a public forum. but still. The only line is the post that made sense was the whole fame is fleeting bit.

And, unfortunately, I'm brutally honest....

m

agreed. considering ellen didn't bring the fame upon herself really. and yet she's being attacked and called a "nobody"...

sure, she doesnt' "deserve" a web page (or several) dedicated to her. but who does?

no need to go on a rant about how worthless she is... if anything. talk about how worthless the web site makers are.

but yeah, her ad is probably the most memorable, and that can create some jealousy i'm sure...

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by AaronAdams
I knew someone would say this. It's simply not the case. I have no desire to be on MTV. I don't like Farelli Brotehrs movies. I have nothing to say to any late night talk show host.

I care about Apple. I want them to be successful. I want this ad campaign to do good things for a company I believe makes great computers. I don't want this entire campaign to be characterized by an underage girl doped up on Benadryl when so many other switchers have substanitive things to say.

not sure what point the first paragraph had other than that she has talked to mtv. so? she's 15. you're how old? not exactly a direct comparison to be made there. as for caring about apple... all publicity is good for them. and clearly she's bringing about the most of any of the switch ads... sure, the network and unix guys are better to actually listen to their reasons. but there have to be some more consumer level commercials too. and this one clearly grabs attention...

I got my 13 weeks of commercial time just like anyone else. And believe me, the welcome wagon is still out in full force.


welcome! you rule! i'm going to make a t shirt with you on it.


don't want to get too big for your britches.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by Padrote
If the Dell Dude and Ellen Feiss ended up sleeping together, I wonder what their kid would look like?

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
There was one ad... what was his name? Adam Aarons? I don't remember much. It was very dull and boring. Flat as a pre-teen girl. Just lacked any charisma and personality. He was plain and boring. I think it's more likely that the teenage girls might be more inclined to do as the boys do--make sites about Ellen Feiss. But i digress.

You're right, I'm not a star, nor do I pretend to be. I don't have an agent. I'm not in talks with MTV.

Some people disagree with your assesment of my performance, however.

http://www.adweek.com/adweek/creative/best_spots/020715_02.jsp

[solvs]

Originally posted by Thirteenva


I actually figured she was 13 or 14. I don't think she looks older. I'm only 24 but for some reason, anything under 20 seems like "just a kid".

*****, i'm getting old, ahhhhhhh :(

I know how you feel, I just turned 25 a few months ago.

I know some "kids" her age, and she seems a lot like them. Of course, most of them ARE stoners. That's one of the things people like about her (not the stoner thing, the realism. Not that the Pot rumors didn't have something do with her popularity). Unlike Britney or Christina (have you seen them lately!?! Don't they realize people like my little 8 year old niece are watching them?) she seems like a real person. And unlike some people, seems kinda nice to boot (sure she insulted the Dell guy, but he deserves it. Plus it's probably in her contract to put him down publicly).

She's cute, but a little too young for me.

Like any of us ever had a chance (haven't built a web site to her, but I don't have a life). Hamilton you luck SOB. ;)

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by AaronAdams


I knew someone would say this. It's simply not the case. I have no desire to be on MTV. I don't like Farelli Brotehrs movies. I have nothing to say to any late night talk show host.

I care about Apple. I want them to be successful. I want this ad campaign to do good things for a company I believe makes great computers. I don't want this entire campaign to be characterized by an underage girl doped up on Benadryl when so many other switchers have substanitive things to say.


but see, you're not the only person in the demographic. Apple wants those underage teenage boys and girls to buy macs too. they either have the disposable income or the chutzpah to get mom and dad to buy them Macs. They're just as important as those with "substanitive" things to say.

And, from the sounds of it, the girl had no clue she'd be on TV. Maybe if she did, she wouldn't have planned to be doped on benadryl. And maybe she would have had a spot earlier in the day. There's too much we don't know to make assumptions about her being "doped" up and "how she has nothing substanitive" to say. This interview might be fake too. I mean, this is the internet.

Originally posted by AaronAdams
I got my 13 weeks of commercial time just like anyone else. And believe me, the welcome wagon is still out in full force.



Good for you. Let Ellen have her thirteen weeks of fame too. And if her's is more public than yours, realize that, in the end, y'all are just cogs in the Apple marketing machine's wheel. You served a purpose. Just as much as Ellen did and Janie did.

Originally posted by AaronAdams
Yes, its caustic because of the reasons I explaied above.



I disagree. [/B]

And I think you're reasons are a tad bit elitist and a tad bit shortsighted. Believe me, I'm a marketing guy. I know what demographics and cross-sections are. We need the ellen's of the world as much as the aaron's. Remember? We have 5% , now we're going after the other 95% thing? Come on aaron.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by AaronAdams


You're right, I'm not a star, nor do I pretend to be. I don't have an agent. I'm not in talks with MTV.

Some people disagree with your assesment of my performance, however.

http://www.adweek.com/adweek/creative/best_spots/020715_02.jsp

hey aaron, come down to pittsburgh, i'll buy you a beer and loosen you up a bit. Couldn't you see the sarcasm dripping from my jowls? :)

m

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule


not sure what point the first paragraph


The point is, I'm not jealous because she doesn't have anything I want, and I have no desire to be in her position.

welcome! you rule! i'm going to make a t shirt with you on it.

don't want to get too big for your britches.

I can do without the sarcasm.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by AaronAdams
The point is, I'm not jealous because she doesn't have anything I want, and I have no desire to be in her position.

I can do without the sarcasm.

ok. yet you point out a webpage to show how great you are too.... thus only furthering the comparison of you to her....

sarcasm's fun... though it does seem you should take mike up on his offer for the brew...

girls tend to get more attention, that's how marketing goes. no need to take it so personally.

not worth the time brah

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule


ok. yet you point out a webpage to show how great you are too.... thus only furthering the comparison of you to her....

sarcasm's fun... though it does seem you should take mike up on his offer for the brew...

girls tend to get more attention, that's how marketing goes. no need to take it so personally.

not worth the time brah

Amen brudda jello. ;)

Do you like dark brews or pale brews aaron? I know some great alehouses down here in the burgh....

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by Moxiemike


hey aaron, come down to pittsburgh, i'll buy you a beer and loosen you up a bit. Couldn't you see the sarcasm dripping from my jowls? :)

m

My fault, I didn't catch it :) Really, I'm a pretty loose guy.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by AaronAdams


My fault, I didn't catch it :) Really, I'm a pretty loose guy.

Cool. Though I still think you came down a bit too hard on poor ol' Ellen. It's not like she did this to herself.... You know?

[AaronAdams]

Whiskey sour is my drink of choice :)

[Thirteenva]

Originally posted by agreenster
What is UP with people nowadays on MacRumors???

I quit posting for a few weeks, and when I come back its nothing but a bunch of angry jerk-offs who insist on saying they are sick oh hearing this and that.


Obviously your still mad about your OS X on x86 post....

Think about your statement. You haven't posted for a few weeks. Well in that few weeks we've heard so much about OS X on x86 that people are sick of it, that is why i replied to you that way. It was at least the third thread on that topic started that day. It gets a little tedious to push through them all to some real discussions and everyone keeps posting the same "proof" on the subject.

As far as this post goes, people are complaining because the whole ellen thing is a little over blown. I hardly think doing a apple commercial(stoned or not) makes you a celebrity. There were some way more charismatic people in those commercials that would have made better "celebreties" than ellen.

So don't come back after a few weeks and start the 50th thread on x86 hardware and expect people not to say they've heard enough...

Next time read a few posts before posting and you wont get a "not this again" response..


Its a FORUM. You are going to hear nothing BUT 'this and that.'

If you are tired of Ellen Feiss, then dont click the post that says "Ellen Feiss Interviewed"

Are you a dumb-ass or WHAT? Jesus!



Exactly, its a forum, where people are expressing there opinions whether it be for or against the topic at hand. Being sick of something is a valid opinion on a topic.

I'd rather not argue any further on the topic, as i can tell by your post with words like "jerk-off" and "dumb asses" I can only imagine the type of conversation that would ensue. I'm not a disagreable person, but you talk about it being a forum, and as such all opinions are welcome...

[agreenster]

:rolleyes:

I have to get back to work. No more wasting time here arguing nonsense with silly people.

[Nebrie]

Originally posted by agreenster
:rolleyes:

I have to get back to work. No more wasting time here arguing nonsense with silly people.

What, you want a lollypop?

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by AaronAdams
Whiskey sour is my drink of choice :)

That's not a bad one. I'm more into gin drinks myself. and Vodka.

but yea... whiskey sour it is.

;)

[cyclist]

She was stoned.:o

[MisterBlack]

I think that more people on this forum need to be stoned.

:cool:

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by MisterBlack
I think that more people on this forum need to be stoned.

:cool:

You would be surprised by how many of them are. On the other hand you wouldn't be surprised by how many people who have no knowledge of marijuana but hate those who use it for no reason.

[Future Man]

WOW...

She's so hot! That is what this EF phenom is.

"I watched the ad online and thought it was brilliant and that Ellen was totally charming and funny."

Wired.com
Apple 'Switch' Star Flies High_ By Leander Kahney
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,54333,00.html

This girl is beautiful and charming. Sure that Janie girl is hot, and so was the DJ, but EF has got it going on. More power to her! I hope she takes her show on the road and becomes mtv's youngest VJ ever. Go GIRL!

Aaron props on the spot man, but I wouldn't post that link:

"Of all the "switchers," Best Spots likes Adams best."

The "internet journalist" who wrote it has some issues with our beloved language.

FM -- out

[crazyastro]

My first post... I have to catch up on a few things:

(a) Macs are *great* computers for stoners... play with the magnification on the dock under the inflluence. Its facinating. Good for people who thought she was stoned. Great that they are interested in buying a Mac because of that. So the ad was somewhat minsinterpreted - all the better I say, reached more people.

(b) The 'Dell Dude' is ridiculous. I've never been impressed by *any* commercial of theirs, and including him in their campaign overtly illustrates their desperation in trying to reach my 'millenial' age group.

"Dude, you're gettin' a Dell!"
<sarcasm>Yippee. I think I just wet my pants.</sarcasm>

(c) Whoever posted that morph pic of Ellen and the Dell Dude - thanks. Thanks a lot. I'll be having nightmares for the rest of my natural life.

(d) Aaron. I can't help but feel that your reaction to Ellen's fame is in part guided by jealousy, part misunderstanding. Your first post was mean, and others reacted the same way. Why? Shouldn't Apple be trying to reach every single possible person on the planet and convince them that their product is the way to go? (aside: has anyone seen 'Moonlight Mile' with Dustin Hoffman, Susan Sarandon, and Jake Gyllenhaal? Susan Sarandon's character, speaking to her daughter's fiance (Gyllenhaal) says "Ain't it the tits you and I have the same name?" ...that's the funniest damn thing. Has anyone actually ever heard that reference before? I hadn't. Maybe that's why its soooo funny. Anyway...) So, the point of that was to say instead that Apple's product is the tits. Ha!

Ellen is a teenage high school kid. Do you *know* how much high school kids spend on crap?! Someone else pointed this out earlier. On average, high school kids are going to school, and working. Not much else. Most live at home. What do they spend money on? Everything. Watch TV. Go to the movies. Notice anything? Marketing is directed toward younger and younger age groups. Why? They're in the money. Its not exactly complicated.

Celebrity. Is also ridiculous. Why are the people who are famous so infamous? I don't know. Does anyone? We are a funny group... society. All different... you know, individuals. Weird. Weird how everyone has different tastes and not everyone likes the same things. Man! I wish everything was mundane and boring. Then, maybe I could get excited about getting a Dell. Ellen excited a group of people. That's all. You are angry because of it. Why? You seemingly excited a group of people as well. Excellent. Apple is *reaching* people. Isn't that a good thing? Why be upset? So Ellen's image doesn't appeal to you, no big deal. But you are attacking others for being interested in that image, and that just isn't cool.

(e) Janie Porche is cool. By far the most fun ad yet. Where are the other celebrity ads? Does anyone remember the one with Will Ferrell (of Saturday Night Live fame)? *Funny.* The Japanese ads are cool too.

... ciao.

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by crazyastro
(d) Aaron. I can't help but feel that your reaction to Ellen's fame is in part guided by jealousy, part misunderstanding.

Nope. I have never questioned Apple's decision to use her, and I understand why they do. As I stated before, she has nothing I want, and being in her shoes doesn't appeal to me at all. Every time this girl sneezes it shows up on the front of 14 different websites and people talk about how great her snot is. I think its ridiculous.

[Dignan]

Then stop talking about her.

If you really didnt care about her position, why did you post a website saying your commercial was great?

Just chill.

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by Dignan
Then stop talking about her.

If you really didnt care about her position, why did you post a website saying your commercial was great?

Just chill.

Go back and re-read. I posted that site in reponse to someone's criticism of my commercial, not as a comparison to anyone else's commercial. And it turned out that their criticism was sarcasm that I didn't pick up, and we made nice.

As for just chiling, I'm entitled to my opinion like anyone else and I expressed it here. I don't keep writing about her, I keep defending myself against people who assume I'm jealous because I'm tired of hearing about a given topic.

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by Future Man

Aaron props on the spot man, but I wouldn't post that link:

"Of all the "switchers," Best Spots likes Adams best."

The "internet journalist" who wrote it has some issues with our beloved language.

FM -- out

Ad Week isn't really internet journalism - it's a respected trade magazine that happens to have a web edition. And if grammar was any kind of measure of credibility, the entire Internet would be shot to hell.

[Omen88]

Why is everyone is uptight on what Aaron said? Who cares if he thinks she's some dumb teenager? I don't sense any jealousy in his words. It was not that much intended to offend Ellen, but more to those people who idolise anyone who seems even only remotely stoned. Frankly that's something which bothers me too, but I guess that's life.

[Dignan]

My reaction came from this...he could have said

I really dont understand the interest in Ellen. She seems to me to be a normal teenager who just happened to do a short commercial for Apple. I think its really strange that she has gained such a following when she has not done that much.

Compared too...

I'm so fscking sick of hearing about this girl. Really, she's nobody. She's very plain and boring and it's just sad that socially retarded, internet-obsessed shut-ins and horny teenage boys have clung to her for reasons intelligent people can't lower themselves to understand.


The latter of the two seems to be a bit harsh, no?
And the harshness is towards a fellow switch person. You would think they would all be glad for each other that they are helping out apple and got a few seconds of fame. But the jealousy comparison is the easiest thing to come to, when you fly off the handle about a girl who is getting attention for her short and funny ad. See what I mean?

[Omen88]

Yeah I see what you mean. But c'mon sometimes people don't always watch their words and especially not on a forum. Anyway, I'm not gonna pick sides and I get your point.

[springscansing]

Originally posted by AaronAdams


Nope. I have never questioned Apple's decision to use her, and I understand why they do. As I stated before, she has nothing I want, and being in her shoes doesn't appeal to me at all. Every time this girl sneezes it shows up on the front of 14 different websites and people talk about how great her snot is. I think its ridiculous.

Man, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you attacking a 15 year old girl? What if it gets out that you think Ellen Feiss is craptastic? What you are saying could easily be misinterpreted as that. Now how would THAT look for Apple? About as bad as her being on MTV.

[crazyastro]

Originally posted by crazyastro
Celebrity. Is also ridiculous. Why are the people who are famous so infamous? I don't know. Does anyone? We are a funny group... society. All different... you know, individuals. Weird. Weird how everyone has different tastes and not everyone likes the same things. Man! I wish everything was mundane and boring. Then, maybe I could get excited about getting a Dell. Ellen excited a group of people. That's all. You are angry because of it. Why? You seemingly excited a group of people as well. Excellent. Apple is *reaching* people. Isn't that a good thing? Why be upset? So Ellen's image doesn't appeal to you, no big deal. But you are attacking others for being interested in that image, and that just isn't cool.


Did we miss this? I said it for a reason. This discussion revolves around what *some* people are interested in, and what others are not. It is horribly offensive to assume that the people that "cling" to her are unintelligent, obsessed freaks. I appreciated the ad for valid reasons, the same as I appreciated yours. So you are disappointed in actions that you take as distasteful. Fine. We are all inclined to have our own opinions, and *noone* has the right to say that your opinion isn't valid. But the initial comment was harsh and mean, and seemed like a personal attack on a girl that has no input in this conversation.

... ciao

[AaronAdams]

If only I had a nickel for every personal attack on every switcher that they weren't there to witness... Each switcher has taken his or her personal share of sht since this campaign began. I think I've heard or read every nasty, degrading, untrue, maddening, and insulting thing people could possibly say about me. A lot of it shows up in my personal inbox! Much of it is on Mac-related forums. Generally I have not responded, except in a couple of cases. But that's all part of being in the public eye. Ms. Feiss is in the public eye like the rest of us, and apparently she seeks to be even more public. What happens when those American Idol judges get a hold of her? ;) There are much harsher critics out there besides me.

[Dignan]

well, it seems to me you dont like people talkin trash about you...

so why turn around and talk trash about another switcher?

[AaronAdams]

Originally posted by Dignan
well, it seems to me you dont like people talkin trash about you...

so why turn around and talk trash about another switcher?

My point was that it comes with the territory whether I, or anyone else, like it or not.

[Dignan]

It does come with the territory, but i dont think thats good enough excuse for someone like you to chip in.

Ok, so recently, there was "the game"...football between harvard and yale. It comes with the territory as a harvard student that yale people are gonna talk smack to you, and try and put you down. I can say "yeah, well, guys, thats what you get for going to harvard and being around yale people" but im not gonna say "yeah, thats what you get for going to harvard and being around yale people...and by the way, you DO suck, harvard isnt nearly as good as yale! stupid sons of biznatches!"

Dont fuel the fire.

[jelloshotsrule]

harvard and yale both suck. go (insert other ivy league school name here)!!!!

i agree. could have certainly taken the high road.

[Dignan]

Go NYU!!!!

That is all.

[MisterBlack]

Originally posted by Omen88
...those people who idolise anyone who seems even only remotely stoned.

I'm stoned in public, and I look it, ALL THE TIME. Where are my legions of supporters/fans/whatever with websites about ME?

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Dignan
Go NYU!!!!

That is all.

dumbass film freaks there trying to be all "artsy"

[Omen88]

Originally posted by MisterBlack


I'm stoned in public, and I look it, ALL THE TIME. Where are my legions of supporters/fans/whatever with websites about ME?

Were you on TV?

[nixd2001]

Originally posted by AaronAdams


And if grammar was any kind of measure of credibility, the entire Internet would be shot to hell.

S******. Chortle. The keyboard eliminates a basic hand writing capability. The Internet eliminates grammar. And SMS eliminates spelling. Oh well, roll on an official pictogram language (a la Greg Bear I think it was).

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:mad: I wanted to use the word formed by concatenating "snigg" and "er", but it seems this gets edited. When ecommerce first hit the UK, the residents of the town of "Scun" + "thorpe" had no end of trouble registering their perfectly valid address. There's nothing as smart as something really dumb... Or is it the other way around???
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[King Cobra]

>(nixd) There's nothing as smart as something really dumb... Or is it the other way around???

Being great at being stupid doesn't count.

I agree that publicity can be one's worst enemy, once anyone become famous. There are two ways to get around such a situation. Aaron displayed one of them, by simple and calm defense. The second is ignoring. From what I have seen, here, and elsewhere, the public may not be stupid, but they do quite well in trying to twist the arms of someone famous for more information.

>(jello) harvard and yale both suck.

I agree. Self-righteous morons think they can get perfect grades at a high level college to impress others. :rolleyes:

[Dignan]

Whoah whoah...watch out for those ivy league comments buddy...

Even though I am here illegitimately....

[shadowfax]

I guess this will make me a latecomer to the post.

I don't know what the deal is, myself. i mean, i've watched the ellen feiss ad, exchanged a few jokes about it with my friends, and read a few of those articles about her fame and the funny fan sites.

sure, i guess that's a pretty pathetic thing to dote and obsess over, in my opinion. but i haven't gone to these sites, which no one has forced me or anyone else to go to, and then said i am "fscking" sick of them. to me, that seems a bit like eating chocolate cake till you barf and then complaining about how there's too much chocolate cake in the world.

i think we all need to visit maddox.xmission.com. mindless criticism definitely has it's place. people dedicate their sites to all sorts of things, and you've no place calling them mindeless jerk-offs and assuming they live and breath whatever the heck they have sites about. some people spend their free time building kites, or collecting altoids boxes. is that any better than spending yorur free time online? if you answered that question, then who made you god?

whatever though. we're all entitled to our opinions of course. but you forgot one thing. in america, not to mention all the other free nations, we're allowed to voice our opinions at will; the less obvious catch there is that you are also RESPONSIBLE for your opinions. just a thought.

not to suggest i'm attacking anyone, but that's my 2 cents. later, guys

[King Cobra]

>(Dignan) Whoah whoah...watch out for those ivy league comments buddy...

If you aren't self-righteous and a moron, don't worry about it. It's just some people never learn...

>whatever though. we're all entitled to our opinions of course. but you forgot one thing. in america, not to mention all the other free nations, we're allowed to voice our opinions at will; the less obvious catch there is that you are also RESPONSIBLE for your opinions. just a thought.

Very true. You may not even be forced to read certain opinions. You have the right not to read them. The most obvious example would be people refusing to read opinions supporting the PC on MacRumors. http://www.thetechpub.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif

[Dignan]

Just because I am smarter than everyone else so I got in the best university in the land, combined with my adonis-like physical features and that most people worship me as a god creating websites about me and puting me on t-shirts and mugs....that doesnt mean I am self-rightious, right?

It just means I know myself well enough to agree with all of the above. ;)