Die Another Day

[Durandal7]

I just got back from Die Another Day. I thought it was a pretty good Bond movie. My biggest problem with the movie was that the cloaking device on his car seemed a little far out even for a Bond movie.

I did like the nostalgia when they went into the room that had the Gator sub from Octopussy and the rocket pack from Thunderdrome in the background.

edit- Something odd, in the middle of all the movie trailers there was a trailer for Warcraft III of all things. Did anyone else see that?

[edesignuk]

Actually I saw a making of Die Another Day, that paint used on the aston in the film is actually (apparently) in development for use initially on tanks.

[diorio]

Die Another Day was an excellent movie. The invisible car did seem a little far out, but it worked quite well with the movie plot. The problem I had was how many times james bond's car could get shot with bullets or rockets, and not even dent. He could also drive through walls and not dent his car. Other than that, it was an awesome movie. Halle Berry performed quite admirably as did judi dench and pierce broson.

[Mr. Anderson]

I had planned on going to see the movie on Sunday night late, but at my local theater it was all sold out, very much 'the' movie right now. One thing that I find lately is that I really don't want to go see a movie when it is that crowded, it just doesn't make it that enjoyable, even with the new theaters with the stadium seating (the new AMC Hoffman Center 22 by me has all stadium theaters).

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[jefhatfield]

i would like to se the halle berry spinoffs which are rumored

she is gorgeous, but not a spring chicken...esp ten years from now...so if they do a few spinoffs and they do really, really well...who will take halle's spot if need be...due to old age

granted, halle is the best looking thirty something actor out there

i saw a site that said she was actually born in '67...35?

[Mr. Anderson]

Went and saw the movie tonight - quite a nice ride, lots of fun. And I'm wondering if the writers didn't do a little spoofing of Austin Powers in this one - there were quite a lot of 'Lasers', mentioning lasers, buttons in the car labled laser, etc. and the car chase on the ice had the bad guy in a Shaguar, in which he died of course.

Also the comment Bond gives to Q (John Cleese) 'Its only a flesh wound' is Cleese as the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I'm sure that there are plenty more, but that will have to wait for the reviewing on DVD.

Over all a good movie, worth seeing in the theater.

D :D

[scem0]

I haven't seen it. It looks kinda stupid to me. One of my friends
said it was good, but that Bond was in bed with girls half the
movie which got annoying. I personally don't like movies that
involve gun because, to me, they don't show much skill. It is just
who can pull the trigger faster in the person's general direction.
Kung Fu movies are quite different, and that is why I like them so
much. But that is off topic;). I plan on renting Die Another Day
as soon as it is available to rent on VHS.

How about that die another day madonna music video though...
I think it is awesome.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by scem0
I personally don't like movies that
involve gun because, to me, they don't show much skill. It is just
who can pull the trigger faster in the person's general direction.
Kung Fu movies are quite different, and that is why I like them so
much. But that is off topic;).

There quite a bit more than just guns - and the one sword fights are good too. And if you've ever shot a gun, you would know that there is quite a lot of skill involved to 'hit' your target - but that doesn't apply to Hollywood. ;)

D

[scem0]

lol, very true.... Well, I can understand it involving skill, but I think
that if a gun-person (<--- what word should replace that?) spent
all the time he practiced shooting targets practicing kung fu, and
then fought Jet Li then he would get his arse kicked. Well, who
knows how well Jet Li can fight (I bet extremely well), but I think
that the 'gun-person', as I say, would take a pretty good beating.

And just to add this - I used to not like Jet Li too much, but that
was before I had seen many of his asian movies (which are very
good) and before I figured out that he is very knolegable in
martial arts, and he does 98% of his stunts. He can do all these
wushu move that I thought only stunt doubles were capable of
doing (and me of course ;) - not really, but I am teaching myself).

[iJon]

I thought this bond movie was terrible. i thought it had a terrible polt. i mean come on, invisible cars, diamonds in a guys face, evil satelite that can destroy the world. these are my own opinions though. Oh yeah, whats up with bond surfing and wind surfing now. im gonna have to go watch goldeneye now to make up for this. now i am in now way making fun of the people who liked it, its just my opinion and i like the other pierce bond movies. best part was the beginning, long hair, bond, jesus bond. haha. i hope there is someone else who hated this movie on this forum.

iJon

[scem0]

wait. Pierce Brosnan had long white hair in the beginning? I
might have to make an exception on waiting to rent this...
That sounds too funny to pass up ;) . :D :D :D

[iJon]

Originally posted by scem0
wait. Pierce Brosnan had long white hair in the beginning? I
might have to make an exception on waiting to rent this...
That sounds too funny to pass up ;) . :D :D :D
actually he doest get a haircut and has really long hair and a beard. although we dont really know what jesus looks like, but he looks like the jesus you would see in the bible. shoulder length dark hair and beard. it really is funny. other than that the movie was very predictable and dull. i was very dissapointed.

iJon

[scem0]

predictable. That is exactly what I thought it would be from the
previews/trailers/wateva ya wanna call 'ems. Oh, and the whole
missle flipping over car thing looked way stupid to me. I
just hate those mega-impossible things.

And nobody mention flying in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon b/c
that is different. I can't really explain why, but it is. :rolleyes: :D

[topicolo]

Originally posted by scem0
predictable. That is exactly what I thought it would be from the
previews/trailers/wateva ya wanna call 'ems. Oh, and the whole
missle flipping over car thing looked way stupid to me. I
just hate those mega-impossible things.

And nobody mention flying in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon b/c
that is different. I can't really explain why, but it is. :rolleyes: :D

I hated Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. It was so drab and uninspired. I guess that's what watching lots of hong-kong action flicks does to you. Although some of those films are so bad it's sad, CTHD is mediocre at best. Also, if you can understand mandarin, you'll notice that Michelle Yeoh and Chow Yun Fat are unintelligible.

I guess that ruined it for me.

[MacBandit]

I loved the new bond movie and would put it in the top 5 of 20 bond movies of all time. It just felt more like a traditional bond film from the Roger Moore era. I miss those films. Bond, Bond Girls, Bond get's Bond Girls, Bond uses gadgets and cool cars....

As to the invisible car. Get use to it people this isn't really sci-fi. The government has been testing this for at least 3 years on things as big as tanks and things as small as people. The current method uses fiber optics. The first time I heard of it was in a Popular Science three years ago and it was talking about government tests of early prototypes for people. The last I saw of it was on the Discovery channel this spring and they were talking about tanks.

As to Bond getting all the women. Hey it's bond and this is what he's all about. I think in this way the movie was really more set in it's roots when Bond DID get all the women.

[scem0]

Originally posted by topicolo


I hated Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. It was so drab and uninspired. I guess that's what watching lots of hong-kong action flicks does to you. Although some of those films are so bad it's sad, CTHD is mediocre at best. Also, if you can understand mandarin, you'll notice that Michelle Yeoh and Chow Yun Fat are unintelligible.

I guess that ruined it for me.

Probably because they are so used to speaking English, and so
their minds are in English mode. I know that it happens to me
after Latin class (when I listen :rolleyes:). I can't believe that you
would call crouching tiger, hidden dragon drab and uninspired. I
think of them as the exact opossite. Well, it is all opinion, so I
don't really care what you thing ;), it will be my favorite movie
until I manage to find something better then it (:eek:).

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by iJon
I thought this bond movie was terrible. i thought it had a terrible polt. i mean come on, invisible cars, diamonds in a guys face, evil satelite that can destroy the world. these are my own opinions though.

Oh, and you were expecting to be enlightened after watching this movie? Its all a bit much, the whole lot of the movies. Its entertainment and thats it. I went to see a fun action film and wasn't dissapointed.

As for the gagets, most of its fiction half the time anyway. I'm going to have to go to the Spy Museum here in DC soon and check out the real gagets and then get back to you on some of this stuff.

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[iJon]

Originally posted by dukestreet


Oh, and you were expecting to be enlightened after watching this movie? Its all a bit much, the whole lot of the movies. Its entertainment and thats it. I went to see a fun action film and wasn't dissapointed.

As for the gagets, most of its fiction half the time anyway. I'm going to have to go to the Spy Museum here in DC soon and check out the real gagets and then get back to you on some of this stuff.

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I love the bond movies, i would have to say Goldeney is my favorite one, but i just didnt seem to like this one. i dont know. ths one just seemed a little bit cheesy. can anyone tell me if the same director directed all the pierce bond movies. i would be curious to know.

iJon

[scem0]

Originally posted by dukestreet


Oh, and you were expecting to be enlightened after watching this movie? Its all a bit much, the whole lot of the movies. Its entertainment and thats it. I went to see a fun action film and wasn't dissapointed.

As for the gagets, most of its fiction half the time anyway. I'm going to have to go to the Spy Museum here in DC soon and check out the real gagets and then get back to you on some of this stuff.

D

Well sometimes movies really can touch you,
I know crouching tiger hidden dragon did,
and I know other people have been
'enlightened' by movies. But for most
peeps, they aren't Kung Fu movies :D.

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by scem0
I personally don't like movies that involve gun because, to me, they don't show much skill.

Try firing at a moving object from a distance before you talk. Much less a moving object that is shooting back at you. It's just a bit different then Unreal Tournament when you are shooting a gun in real life.

[scem0]

Im not saying it isn't hard, but I just think....
god, just look at my above posts. I think it
requires much skill, I just think being good at kung fu is a bit more 'skillful'. Others may
disagree, but it is just opinion, so lets not start
flames... ;)

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by dukestreet
Also the comment Bond gives to Q (John Cleese) 'Its only a flesh wound' is Cleese as the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

I wondered if I was the only one in the theater who got that, 'cause I was certainly the only one who laughed!

John Cleese and Judi Dench alone make the movie worthwhile. :cool:

Oh yeah, and the action was pretty good too, but a couple things were just a bit over the top for me... oh, and my ever-not-so-humble-opinion: no one can top Sean Connery! :D

[diorio]

Originally posted by scem0
Im not saying it isn't hard, but I just think....
god, just look at my above posts. I think it
requires much skill, I just think being good at kung fu is a bit more 'skillful'. Others may
disagree, but it is just opinion, so lets not start
flames... ;)

He didn't flame you, he's subtely telling you that real life isn't a video game. I personally don't like kung fu movies because they are even cheesier than some of the bond scenes. They did quite a good job in making the bond movie, and it took a long time, so before you go saying more about DAD, go see it.l

[Gus]

The reason that the whole "Bond Girl" thing got going was because of the Bond movies' roots. Hugh Heffner and Playboy helped bankroll the first 3 Bond movies. The trade-off? Playboy got to use their girls in the movies, and Playboy got to have this hip, new mystique to it.

As to the far-out stuff, this is to be expected in a Bond movie, and frankly, it's makes them fun. You think this stuff was far-out, but you believe that a Russian gangster can take control of a satellite system that can emit an EMP from space? It's supposed to be far out. Go watch Moonraker, then we'll talk. About the guy with diamonds in his face-it was cool to see them try to create a villian like Jaws. Jaws was one of the greatest bad guy henchmen.

If nothing else, go see the movie for its one-liners. The exchanges between Q and then with M are hilarious, and back to the wit of older Bond flicks. Da duhn DA DAAA-Da du da. (Sing the rhythm)

Gus

[iJon]

I don't know if any of you guys knew this. Q is dead. Q isnt in this movie. The new guy is R. I think in the last movie the makers knew it was nearing end time for Q. thats why they brought in R in the last movie. kind of confusing because i dont recall them ever saying his name was R in this movie. They said he was R in The World Is Not Enough.

iJon

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by iJon
I don't know if any of you guys knew this. Q is dead. Q isnt in this movie. The new guy is R. I think in the last movie the makers knew it was nearing end time for Q. thats why they brought in R in the last movie. kind of confusing because i dont recall them ever saying his name was R in this movie. They said he was R in The World Is Not Enough.

iJon


Yes Q is dead, but they didn't plan on him dieing so soon. They planned on him participating in at least one if not two more movies. They were in fact bringing Clease in to take over but there was supposed to be at least one more episode in which Q was supposed to be educating R about Bond.

You can get more info on Desmond Llewelyn, "Q" here (http://www.ianfleming.org/007news/articles2/desmondmemories3.shtml).

It was cetainly sad when he died and we will all remember him. For more Bond news and info you can always check out Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (http://www.ianfleming.org/mkkbb/).

[Durandal7]

If I remember correctly he died during the filming of The World is not Enough, which is why only John Cleese appeared in the final scene of the movie.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Durandal7
If I remember correctly he died during the filming of The World is not Enough, which is why only John Cleese appeared in the final scene of the movie.

He did not die durring the making. Here is a page explaining what happened.

http://www.ianfleming.org/007news/articles2/desmond2.shtml

[Durandal7]

I see, I'm going to miss good old Q.

By the way, did anyone else think that Die Another Day had a really bad theme song?

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Durandal7
I see, I'm going to miss good old Q.

By the way, did anyone else think that Die Another Day had a really bad theme song?

YES!!! Madonna needs put out of her misery.

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by iJon
I don't know if any of you guys knew this. Q is dead. Q isnt in this movie. The new guy is R.

John Cleese is billed as Q in this movie, so that's what I'm calling him... :rolleyes:

And yes, we all miss Llewelyn.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Hemingray


John Cleese is billed as Q in this movie, so that's what I'm calling him... :rolleyes:

And yes, we all miss Llewelyn.

You are correct. To prevent confussion I would use his designation as a trainee which is "R". When a replacement is being trained to take over they use the next letter in the alphabet. I think this is how it goes from there. If the previous person retires and the trainee takes over they will use the next letter in the Alphabet. Therefore is Q hadn't died and had simply retired he would have stayed with R. Now if the previous person dies and the trainee takes over in that instance I think they use the previous letter. Therefore out of reverence R is using Q's designation.

[iJon]

thanks for the correction. that is kind of strange. i didnt pay much attention to whether or not his name in this one was q or r. doesnt really matter i guess.

iJon

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Originally posted by scem0
Well sometimes movies really can touch you,
I know crouching tiger hidden dragon did,
and I know other people have been
'enlightened' by movies. But for most
peeps, they aren't Kung Fu movies :D.

Get real. This is a BOND film. You're not supposed to be enlightened - just entertained. So, leave your sense of realism at the door...

I saw it yesterday, and thought that it was one of the best Bonds I've seen in ages. And. definitely the best of the Pierce Brosnan flicks.

This comes from a true Bond officionado - I must've seen all of the Bond movies literally dozens of times, and never feel that I can do any of the stunts, or live the life that Bond does. I just go for the entertainment factor - just to lose myself in a bit of "jellybeans and *************e" for a couple of hours.

[edesignuk]

I just went to see the film last night....and I thought it was GREAT!
Sure there are things that would just never happen, but this is a Bond film, it's what it's all about.
Just watch and be entertained. :)

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik


Get real. This is a BOND film. You're not supposed to be enlightened - just entertained. So, leave your sense of realism at the door...

I saw it yesterday, and thought that it was one of the best Bonds I've seen in ages. And. definitely the best of the Pierce Brosnan flicks.

This comes from a true Bond officionado - I must've seen all of the Bond movies literally dozens of times, and never feel that I can do any of the stunts, or live the life that Bond does. I just go for the entertainment factor - just to lose myself in a bit of "jellybeans and *************e" for a couple of hours.


I agree this IS one of the best Bond films in a while. Thoug I wouldn't call it the best Pierce Brosnon film. Goldeneye would have to take the cake. Not only is it the best Brosnan film but is quite possibly the best Bond film period.

I also consider myself quite the officionado. I own nearly every Bond movie and no quite a bit about the characters and the movies. For what I don't know I can open up my James Bond bedside companion that sits on my nightstand.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by MacBandit

I own nearly every Bond movie...

hehehe, I got the Bond DVD box set for my birthday; all 19 films! Still getting through them...:)

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by edesignuk

hehehe, I got the Bond DVD box set for my birthday; all 19 films! Still getting through them...:)

I started buying them on VHS before DVDs were even available. I have like 12 on VHS and 15 on DVD. Too late to buy a box set.

[demonx]

I just saw this movie last night, I thought it was a good movie, of course I was not expecting to come out of it with the meaning of life or anything.
The first scene where they were surfing in was pretty cool in my opinion, also the sword fight scene:D

[szark]

Originally posted by MacBandit


You are correct. To prevent confussion I would use his designation as a trainee which is "R". When a replacement is being trained to take over they use the next letter in the alphabet. I think this is how it goes from there. If the previous person retires and the trainee takes over they will use the next letter in the Alphabet. Therefore is Q hadn't died and had simply retired he would have stayed with R. Now if the previous person dies and the trainee takes over in that instance I think they use the previous letter. Therefore out of reverence R is using Q's designation.

I guess I'm in a nitpicking mood today...

The letter designations apply to the rank in the organizations, not any particular person. The person in charge of the "special toys" division is always labelled 'Q', just like Bond's boss is always 'M' -- even though he has had several different bosses over the course of the series.

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by edesignuk

hehehe, I got the Bond DVD box set for my birthday; all 19 films! Still getting through them...:)

I dig the 007 avatars edesignuk.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by Durandal7

I dig the 007 avatars edesignuk.
THANKS! I just couldn't resist haveing some 007 'tars with the release of the new film, I'll get back to my spinning G4 some day. But I rather like this one at the moment ;)

[topicolo]

Originally posted by scem0


Probably because they are so used to speaking English, and so
their minds are in English mode. I know that it happens to me
after Latin class (when I listen :rolleyes:). I can't believe that you
would call crouching tiger, hidden dragon drab and uninspired. I
think of them as the exact opossite. Well, it is all opinion, so I
don't really care what you thing ;), it will be my favorite movie
until I manage to find something better then it (:eek:).

Actually, Michelle Yeoh and Chow Yun Fat don't speak english very well--they speak cantonese, which is a dialect of Chinese that is almost unintelligible to most "mainlanders," who speak Mandarin. Anyway, they just mumbled their lines for two hours.

CTHD is uninspired. Films like that and every possible permutation have been played all over asia so many times it's hard to keep track of it all. The flying scenes and all that junk is old hat.
It's kinda like the state of horror movies today--group of people approach haunted house/ship/spaceship/other vehicle/building, main source of escape is destroyed, people start realizing that the place is out to kill them, people start dying, they hatch a plan to escape, everybody except 1 or 2 people get out, blowing up the monster/house/whatever in the process with a massive fireball, etc.