View Full Version : Any way to get a Sawtooth to recognize 2 Gb RAM?
leekohler
Sep 11, 2005, 03:03 AM
OK, I did a search of the forums and didn't find anything on this. But I swear I've heard of people who've done DP upgrades on their Sawtooths getting 2 Gb RAM in their computers. Is this true?
zen.state
Sep 11, 2005, 03:15 AM
yes. there are 4 ram slots that take a max of 512mb each.
leekohler
Sep 11, 2005, 03:23 AM
yes. there are 4 ram slots that take a max of 512mb each.
That's great! Mine has four slots that I filled with 2 512s and 2 256s, because I thought that was all it could take. My only question- why did Apple state it would only take 1.5 Gigs?
zen.state
Sep 11, 2005, 02:49 PM
That's great! Mine has four slots that I filled with 2 512s and 2 256s, because I thought that was all it could take. My only question- why did Apple state it would only take 1.5 Gigs?
the 1.5GB limit is only for os9 and older. any version of osx will see up to 2gb in a sawtooth.
check it out:
http://eshop.macsales.com/Descriptions/specs/Framework.cfm?page=g4agp.html&title=Power%20Macintosh%20G4%20AGP
superfula
Sep 11, 2005, 03:55 PM
I don't think I knew that. I suppose it's the same for other G4 Powermac models
Lopez.T.H.
Sep 11, 2005, 04:01 PM
Sorry to ask but what is a sawtooth?
dsharits
Sep 11, 2005, 04:05 PM
Sorry to ask but what is a sawtooth?
A Sawtooth would be technically the second version of the first generation Power Mac G4, otherwise known as the AGP Graphics G4 (http://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/stats/powermac_g4_400.html).
dubbz
Sep 11, 2005, 04:07 PM
Sorry to ask but what is a sawtooth?
Just the codename for an old PowerMac G4 model. More info here (http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=g4agp).
Mechcozmo
Sep 11, 2005, 05:07 PM
Oft times Apple's limit is the physical limit on RAM they could get at the time and then they don't go back to re-test when bigger RAM is out. eMac support up to 4GB, (2x2GB DIMMs) but Apple isn't going to bother testing that.
leekohler
Sep 11, 2005, 09:38 PM
You guys are great! Thanks again.
Lopez.T.H.
Sep 11, 2005, 09:42 PM
Thanks. Those look nice. Wouldnt mind picking up one of those for myself. :)
leekohler
Sep 11, 2005, 10:03 PM
Thanks. Those look nice. Wouldnt mind picking up one of those for myself. :)
I would highly recommend it. I've had mine for over 5 years and it's one hell of a workhorse. The upgradeability is amazing. I've put a 1 Ghz processor in mine, but I know it can go a lot higher than that. My next upgrade will be a video card to make it CoreImage compatible.
doucy2
Sep 11, 2005, 10:05 PM
wow thats cool
mine has a 1ghz processor now and 1.5gb
how much much performance do you think i would get with the 2gb
leekohler
Sep 11, 2005, 10:07 PM
wow thats cool
mine has a 1ghz processor now and 1.5gb
how much much performance do you think i would get with the 2gb
That's what I have too! I can only imagine more RAM will make it even faster. Can't hurt, right?
CanadaRAM
Sep 11, 2005, 10:23 PM
That's what I have too! I can only imagine more RAM will make it even faster.
Actually, not really. It will only make the machine faster if you regularly exceed your existing 1.5 Gb in total application OS and data load. Once you have enough RAM, then the marginal benefit of more is small. Until you raise the bar on "enough" of course.
So the extreme example of someone with a 1.5 Gb machine doing only Safari, upping it to 4 Gb would make little or no noticeable difference.
CanadaRAM
Sep 11, 2005, 10:24 PM
Oft times Apple's limit is the physical limit on RAM they could get at the time and then they don't go back to re-test when bigger RAM is out. eMac support up to 4GB, (2x2GB DIMMs) but Apple isn't going to bother testing that.
Documentation?
And where have you found non-ECC, non-Registered, non-Stacked DDR PC2700 DIMMs?
Curious to see proof that the eMac memory controller can address 1024 MBit density devices... ;)
doucy2
Sep 11, 2005, 10:29 PM
Actually, not really. It will only make the machine faster if you regularly exceed your existing 1.5 Gb in total application OS and data load. Once you have enough RAM, then the marginal benefit of more is small. Until you raise the bar on "enough" of course.
So the extreme example of someone with a 1.5 Gb machine doing only Safari, upping it to 4 Gb would make little or no noticeable difference.
i would use it because i run a lot of games
and sometime play my itunes music in the backround while i play for ex return to castle wolfenstein
i also at some time have many 10 apps and close to 20 different windows running
this should increase spped shouldnt it
Mechcozmo
Sep 11, 2005, 10:44 PM
Documentation?
And where have you found non-ECC, non-Registered, non-Stacked DDR PC2700 DIMMs?
Curious to see proof that the eMac memory controller can address 1024 MBit density devices... ;)
Because the G4s now can handle it for quite some time now, only makes sense. OK fine, it was an exaggeration-- but once we get those 2GB DIMMs, I wouldn't be surprised if they would. :p
Damn you CanadaRAM and your wanting to obey the laws of matter, gravity, and such! ;)
leekohler
Sep 12, 2005, 12:30 PM
Actually, not really. It will only make the machine faster if you regularly exceed your existing 1.5 Gb in total application OS and data load. Once you have enough RAM, then the marginal benefit of more is small. Until you raise the bar on "enough" of course.
So the extreme example of someone with a 1.5 Gb machine doing only Safari, upping it to 4 Gb would make little or no noticeable difference.
Well, of course not- but I do push mine to the limit quite a bit. That's why I asked in the first place.
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