Apple Releases iTunes 5.0.1 [Archive]

thomasp

Sep 20, 2005, 03:26 PM

12.6Mb update for iTunes, available from software update

iTunes 5 features a new even more powerful instant search, including the new Search Bar which helps you find exactly what you are looking for in iTunes or from among 2 million songs on the Music Store, folders for organizing playlists, and new Parental Controls for music, music sharing and podcasts. iTunes 5.0.1 features several stability improvements over iTunes 5.

Good news is: no restart required :D

Bad news is: still no brushed metal :(

dubbz

Sep 20, 2005, 03:36 PM

Good news is: no restart required :D

Bad news is: still no brushed metal :(

So no bad news then ;)

PlaceofDis

Sep 20, 2005, 03:38 PM

So no bad news then ;)

agreed

although iTunes 5 didnt break anything for me in the first place.

runplaysleeprun

Sep 20, 2005, 04:02 PM

God, i know its always a bad idea to be one of the first to download updates, especially with apples track record (hey, what happend to my external HD? oh, it got erased) but, i can't help myself. Here's hoping for the best.

MacRumors

Sep 20, 2005, 04:06 PM

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Apple released a small update to iTunes 5.0 today:

iTunes 5 features a new even more powerful instant search, including the new Search Bar which helps you find exactly what you are looking for in iTunes or from among 2 million songs on the Music Store, folders for organizing playlists, and new Parental Controls for music, music sharing and podcasts. iTunes 5.0.1 features several stability improvements over iTunes 5.

The 5.0 upgrade introduced a number (http://news.com.com/iTunes+upgrade+has+users+griping/2100-1046_3-5863637.html) of issues including crahes, difficulties transferring purchased music, playlist problems and other issues.

This bug-fix update has been expected.

tekmoe

Sep 20, 2005, 04:08 PM

nice. figured it would happen today.

Riot_Mac

Sep 20, 2005, 04:08 PM

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

Apple released a small update to iTunes 5.0 today:

The 5.0 upgrade introduced a number (http://news.com.com/iTunes+upgrade+has+users+griping/2100-1046_3-5863637.html) of issues including crahes, difficulties transferring purchased music, playlist problems and other issues.

This bug-fix update has been expected.
dling it now... man i was really hoping for a Pbook update today. Oh well maybe next week.

wrxguy

Sep 20, 2005, 04:09 PM

can anyone recomend a mini itunes player that i can use so that i dont have to keep maximizing and minimizing my itunes...i would like to have the art work and all that but its not a must

swissmann

Sep 20, 2005, 04:11 PM

Great. Now where is 10.4.3?

Heart Break Kid

Sep 20, 2005, 04:12 PM

Great. Now where is 10.4.3?

HBK is waiting for it too!

paperinacup

Sep 20, 2005, 04:14 PM

FINALLY an update.

VanMac

Sep 20, 2005, 04:15 PM

dling it now... man i was really hoping for a Pbook update today. Oh well maybe next week.
Ya, well I was kinda hoping for a huge PM update.... Maybe tomorrow :rolleyes:

Xenious

Sep 20, 2005, 04:16 PM

Dual 2.5 G5, no issues with the update. (No previous issues with 5.0 either)

barbee

Sep 20, 2005, 04:17 PM

Does anyone know if this solves anything for Windows platforms? From my experience, the performance is HORRIBLE and there's no way of downgrading to 4.x.

thomasp

Sep 20, 2005, 04:17 PM

Well, it seems to play songs fine from my Party Shuffle, and access the music store OK. I'm using OSX 10.4.2 on a 15" 1.5GHz PB.

I don't know about iPod problems, as I don't have one :eek:

Nice of Apple to fix the bugs quickly :)

Mike Teezie

Sep 20, 2005, 04:19 PM

Here's to hoping 5.0.1 fixes my iPod issues.

Downloading now....

DaftUnion

Sep 20, 2005, 04:20 PM

Everything works fine with the update for both iTunes on the mac and pc.

AppleMatt

Sep 20, 2005, 04:25 PM

Bah. It's not showing up for me yet.

Does 5.0.1 still include podcasts in the music library?

AppleMatt

runplaysleeprun

Sep 20, 2005, 04:32 PM

The installer has been hanging about half way done for about 20 minutes on my pbook with it saying
Installing: Installing iTunes.
doesnt seem to be making any progress.
Isolated case?

Ashapalan

Sep 20, 2005, 04:35 PM

ive had no issues, but rather than touching wood, i think i'll click update
Nothing like being at the top of the game eh
/

wrxguy

Sep 20, 2005, 04:35 PM

it worked like a dream for me!

abrooks

Sep 20, 2005, 04:45 PM

Does 5.0.1 still include podcasts in the music library?

AppleMatt

Yup :mad:

Steamboatwillie

Sep 20, 2005, 04:48 PM

Bah. It's not showing up for me yet.

Does 5.0.1 still include podcasts in the music library?

AppleMatt

I hope so, and I hope that smartplaylists, that sync to my iPod, start behaving like they do with music!

Nermal

Sep 20, 2005, 04:51 PM

WHY did the forum search not find this thread when I typed "itunes 5.0.1"? :confused:

Same thing happened for the Java update.

Mike Teezie

Sep 20, 2005, 04:51 PM

Grrr, didn't fix my problem.

I'm backing up data now, to do a clean install of the OS.

:mad:

~Shard~

Sep 20, 2005, 04:57 PM

I never experienced any probelms myself with 5.0 , but nice to see this update anyway - I'll be installing it tonight. :cool:

Jetson

Sep 20, 2005, 05:22 PM

I reported to Apple that with iTunes 5.0, it now updates every recently played song to my iPod. This is annoying and time wasting. It's also fragments my iPod's hard drive.

I can see no reason for updating songs to the iPod that I've simply listened to in iTunes. I hope they fixed that.

I also had a problem with one playlist being appended to other playlists.

I love the changes they made to iTunes. I just hope the bugs get worked out soon.

Lacero

Sep 20, 2005, 05:26 PM

This should silence all the critics...

*hears crickets*

runplaysleeprun

Sep 20, 2005, 05:32 PM

WHY did the forum search not find this thread when I typed "itunes 5.0.1"? :confused:

Same thing happened for the Java update.

I was wondering the same thing. A search 5.0.1 works, though.

cheekyspanky

Sep 20, 2005, 05:33 PM

Hasn't appeared in software update for me yet, can't say I've really noticed any issues with my current version.

The recently played songs being updated to the iPod issue I have noticed, but it doesn't bother me too much. Has that been addressed in this update though?

Lacero

Sep 20, 2005, 05:35 PM

Does the update overwrite my custom iTunes.rsrc?

aegisdesign

Sep 20, 2005, 06:15 PM

This should silence all the critics...

*hears crickets*

They've fixed the search bar bug where it wasn't showing the selection in the bar correctly, but that's it. It's still the bastard son of Metal and Unified with all the half implemented features from before.

aegisdesign

Sep 20, 2005, 06:16 PM

Does the update overwrite my custom iTunes.rsrc?

Yes. I've not been brave enough to try out Iridium on it yet to fix the interface again.

treblah

Sep 20, 2005, 06:20 PM

No problems for me on 10.4.2 and a G3 iPod.
Also happy about no restart. :)

wwooden

Sep 20, 2005, 06:23 PM

puckhead193

Sep 20, 2005, 06:33 PM

yay, maybe this will solve my frozen itunes....
i tryed to force quite nothing...

Nermal

Sep 20, 2005, 06:54 PM

Thanks so much for the quick reply!!! I'll back it up then. :D

Multiple personalities?

MontyZ

Sep 20, 2005, 06:58 PM

Whyren

Sep 20, 2005, 07:07 PM

An interesting thing I realized when I updated to iTunes 5 that I forget to ask or mention. i noticed that iTunes 5 does not have a new color icon. All the previous iTunes major updates changed the iTunes icon color or design. The first was 3 music notes, then it went to purple and then blue or some order like that. But i noticed it didn't change this time, anyone have an idea why not?

As some others have mentioned before, it's likely because the green iTunes icon has become so well known and more connected to the iPod as 4 has been the version with Windows support, the version under which the iPod has become extremely popular (iPod did lull for a while) and the version with the extremely popular iTunes music store. For these reasons, changing the icon simply for a version change might take away from the branding.

Nermal

Sep 20, 2005, 07:36 PM

We've had blue and purple, but I don't think people would want a pink icon :p

WeBleed4Real

Sep 20, 2005, 07:41 PM

It looks like it fixed an issue I had with "Shared Music". iTunes 5.0 didn't show shared music in the playlists, but since I updated, they're back.

The search engine for the music store seems improved. Before the update, it intermittently failed to find my podcast. So far it finds it pretty consistently.

My only problem is that it still seems like iTunes is filtering some of my keywords that I put in my Feedburner Smartcast to help people find the podcast. I bet it's not a bug. Just curious who's doing this so I can kick the crap out of them.

hob

Sep 20, 2005, 07:44 PM

I noticed something new - if you pick up more than 1 track, for example to move them to an ipod etc., a star appears telling you the number of tracks, as with iPhoto...

LGRW3919

Sep 20, 2005, 07:50 PM

I noticed something new - if you pick up more than 1 track, for example to move them to an ipod etc., a star appears telling you the number of tracks, as with iPhoto...

its been like that since itunes 5.0, 5.0.1 didn't introduce that.

iPost

Sep 20, 2005, 07:50 PM

kasei

Sep 20, 2005, 07:55 PM

I did not experience any problem with the last update, but I did notice iTunes was slower than hell. Now it appears they have worked the bugs out and accessing the music store is a snap.

Mac_Freak

Sep 20, 2005, 08:34 PM

That was quick. Apple must have been bombarded with complaints. :cool: But fix is always good.

Whyren

Sep 20, 2005, 09:33 PM

Is anybody happy with upgrading from an iTunes 4.x version to 5?

I have 4.8 and I've been avoiding an upgrade as the 4.8 version does everything I need. I get the feeling that iTunes is becoming more bloated over time.

From everything I read, it looks like it's a good idea to stay with 4.8. I have the 4.8 installer saved too... too bad I can't post it for those who want to go back.

I'm stayin' with 4.9 'till required to upgrade (which probably won't be too much longer with the iTMS). No major complaints against 5...I'd get used to the new appearance I guess. I'm not a fan of the Podcasts in the Library, but neither am I a fan of the videos or even streams being in there...I use the Library as my music-file-only library, meaning it's the "playlist" I listen too the most. Perhaps they could add a preference to select what you'd like in the library, and what you'd like in a separate listing.

But, the only reason I have to upgrade right now is to stop the annoying Software Update messages...and those could be disabled if I wanted.

DIXIE

Sep 20, 2005, 09:45 PM

Is anybody happy with upgrading from an iTunes 4.x version to 5?

I have 4.8 and I've been avoiding an upgrade as the 4.8 version does everything I need. I get the feeling that iTunes is becoming more bloated over time.

From everything I read, it looks like it's a good idea to stay with 4.8. I have the 4.8 installer saved too... too bad I can't post it for those who want to go back.

Right On!!

I never went past iTunes 4.8, since 4.9, 5.0, and now 5.01, all deal with the iPod and Podcasting, which is meaningless for me. I use my computer or discs in a CD player when listening to my very selective old time real music. I'm not about to walk around with earbuds destroying the ear follicles in my auditory canal!

The iPod itself does have some alternative features that are very useful such as backup storage for photos, data, and music. I believe the black nano is a killer. If only the Pods could be a booting device ......hm, hm, hm,

I usually upgrade my 3 Apple computers after the "improvements" become stable and the complaints drop to the level of poor computer maintenance. That's why I'm still in iPhoto 4.03 and waiting for OS 10.4.3 (500+ bug corrections) or 10.4.4

Hopefully, Apple remembers it was Apple COMPUTER, not Apple iPod that took them to the dance!!!

neonart

Sep 20, 2005, 10:28 PM

This is good. I did notice some issues with 5.0. It just felt slower less responsive to switching between playlists, etc.

Very good update.

SeaFox

Sep 20, 2005, 11:14 PM

can anyone recomend a mini itunes player that i can use so that i dont have to keep maximizing and minimizing my itunes...i would like to have the art work and all that but its not a must

1. Advanced menu --> Switch to Mini Player
2. Use the iTunes controller Widget
3. I have the FoxyTunes extension for Firefox, which gives me simple controls for iTunes in the status bar of browser windows.

Phat_Pat

Sep 20, 2005, 11:38 PM

1. Advanced menu --> Switch to Mini Player
2. Use the iTunes controller Widget
3. I have the FoxyTunes extension for Firefox, which gives me simple controls for iTunes in the status bar of browser windows.
1. You can just hit the green button over the play/pause buttons

rdas7

Sep 21, 2005, 03:03 AM

1. You can just hit the green button over the play/pause buttons

For even more transparent control over iTunes, check out Synergy (http://www.macupdate.com/synergy%202.1) which gives you key command shortcuts to all the good stuff in iTunes (Play/Pause/Rwd/FFw) as well as control over star ratings (via key shortcuts) and other cool stuff.

It's even growl-aware so you have trigger transluscent overlays (like the volume/brightness controls). I've got mine configured so that every time a new track comes on, a transluscent black bar pops up at the bottom of my screen with album art, artist and track info (like MTV, sorta). Or a key shortcut pops up info about the currently playing track (in case I'm curious!)

This is a sample screenshot (http://growl.info/img/musicVideoLarge.png) of growl - imagine that black bar at the bottom sliding up for a few seconds then sliding back down with all the track info...

Once it's all configured the way you want it, you won't even really need to go to iTunes to control your music - and best of all, this solution uses no screen space at all, so you've got more room to focus on what you're doing.

iMeowbot

Sep 21, 2005, 03:03 AM

I can see no reason for updating songs to the iPod that I've simply listened to in iTunes. I hope they fixed that.
Possibly they're working on something like smart on-the-go playlists. They'd need to bump the play counts and dates for that.

It would be nice if they would fix the iPod recognition problems that turned up in 5.0, the current business with having to plug in and unplug some iPods is a little bit mysterious and inconsistent.

mrkgoo

Sep 21, 2005, 03:24 AM

I got iTunes 5.0.1 two weeks ago!! Check it out (see attachment).

Strange thing. I was trying to update iTunes 5.0.0 to 5.0.1 via Software Update. I had a network issue, and it disconnected, but I don't think that was an issue. I tried again and it was fine...except I had an error trying to verify:

Software Update could not expand Package correctly.

After repairing permissions, I tried again, but the same thing. After googling for a bit, I came up with a number of possibilities, including a missing tar file, false receipts, or a missing link to my tmp folder.

What it actually was, I discovered, in my console log, was that I already had it! i checked in my packages folder, since I normally keep them. In there was an iTunesX.pkg which I used to update from 4.9 to 5.0.0. I remember it saying "version 5.0.1" and it being strange. I removed it from the packages, and tried Software Update again - sure enough, it downloaded and expanded fine.

you can see the info from each of the packages I have that they are both version 5.0.1, but one is from two weeks ago, approximately the time of 5.0.0, and the other one from yesterday (real 5.0.1). Having said that, though, both files are identtical in size, so maybe they're actually the same file, and I somehow broke it during my disconnection, making it have a version and file size of the new one, but keeping the creation and modification date of the old one. I dunno - does anyone have the original 5.0.0 package they can verify with?

I hope this helps anyone else having problems.

Marlon_JBT

Sep 21, 2005, 07:16 AM

I never had a problem with iTunes 5. Am I in the minority here?

SiliconAddict

Sep 21, 2005, 07:31 AM

Does anyone know if this solves anything for Windows platforms? From my experience, the performance is HORRIBLE and there's no way of downgrading to 4.x.

I've had no problems with iTunes 5 on my XP system. performance is fine. Of course I uninstalled iTunes and quicktime, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted. Maybe a bit overkill but it takes 20 seconds to boot so *shrugs*.

Don't think I will upgrade. The issues this resolves I haven't had in the first place. *knock on wood*

SiliconAddict

Sep 21, 2005, 07:36 AM

I reported to Apple that with iTunes 5.0, it now updates every recently played song to my iPod. This is annoying and time wasting. It's also fragments my iPod's hard drive.

Playcounts have changed so "technically" it is a change that is being applied to your iPod. I noticed this as well. iTunes as good as it is has one crappy way of handling files. I wish the software was smart enough to simply modify the file headers and tags instead of just dumping the file over to the iPod. Seems like a waste of time. :(

Yvan256

Sep 21, 2005, 10:12 AM

Ya, well I was kinda hoping for a huge PM update.... Maybe tomorrow :rolleyes:

And I was waiting for my sub-notebook/palmtop that runs OS X... Maybe next month. ;)

Yvan256

Sep 21, 2005, 10:19 AM

I noticed something new - if you pick up more than 1 track, for example to move them to an ipod etc., a star appears telling you the number of tracks, as with iPhoto...

That's a nice touch, but I'd also like to see the bottom status bar change, to reflect the total time + size of the selected files.

Yvan256

Sep 21, 2005, 10:23 AM

I never had a problem with iTunes 5. Am I in the minority here?

Didn't have any problems with iTunes 5.0 either (at least on the Mac mini).

wdlove

Sep 21, 2005, 10:29 AM

No problems with iTunes 5.0 either. Just happy that Apple continues to work for us.

Lacero

Sep 21, 2005, 10:31 AM

Agreed. iTunes has become essential in my video production workflow. It's what I like to call, an "essential app".

TML

Sep 21, 2005, 10:55 AM

Yvan256

Sep 21, 2005, 11:06 AM

I'm actually really disappointed with these two new latest iTunes versions. Neither 5 or 5.1 actually runs on my windows xp!

I keep getting this message after I accept the liscence agreement...

http://www.laduk.co.uk/message.JPG

How annoying! I've already lost my very scattered iTunes library and my playlists have all disappeared!

Any ideas?

I did read about someone on XP (in this forum) who un-installed both iTunes and Quicktime before upgrading. Maybe you could try that? :confused:

Lacero

Sep 21, 2005, 11:08 AM

How annoying! I've already lost my very scattered iTunes library and my playlists have all disappeared!Let iTunes manage your music library. You'll be glad you did. Trust us!

VanMac

Sep 21, 2005, 02:18 PM

I'm actually really disappointed with these two new latest iTunes versions. Neither 5 or 5.1 actually runs on my windows xp!

I keep getting this message after I accept the liscence agreement...

http://www.laduk.co.uk/message.JPG

How annoying! I've already lost my very scattered iTunes library and my playlists have all disappeared!

Any ideas?
Odd. Worked OK for me on my XP machine. No problemo of course on the iBook.

Try un-installing QTime and iTUnes as suggested, and reinstall from scratch. It is Windows after all. Reboot 3 or 4 times, wait on hold for 6hrs with Tech Support, then throw it out the window.... ;)

shamino

Sep 21, 2005, 02:28 PM

The Windows version downloaded and installed fine for me (one on Win2K, one on XP). Everything seems to work OK, including streaming from the Win2K box to the XP box, and streaming from radio stations.

One interesting thing that I noticed is that the installer is a bit more pedantic - in a good way. While running, it popped up a box telling me that it needs to replace files that are in-use, naming the applications using the file. I quit from those specific apps and clicked "retry" to continue. The installation then completed normally. (Requiring a reboot on Win2K, but not on XP.)

This is a lot nicer than the more traditional "you must quit all apps" behavior that I've seen.

ErikGrim

Sep 21, 2005, 06:53 PM

I'm not a fan of the Podcasts in the Library, but neither am I a fan of the videos or even streams being in there...I use the Library as my music-file-only library, meaning it's the "playlist" I listen too the most. Perhaps they could add a preference to select what you'd like in the library, and what you'd like in a separate listing..I used to think this way too, but the library is really a place holder for ALL your files, which promted me to create this smart playlist for music only:
Genre does not contain: Spoken Word
Genre does not contain: Comedy
Genre does not contain: Podcast
Genre does not contain: Book
Type does not contain: Quick
Type does not contain: stream

That should take care of most of your non-music files and give you a nice playlist of music only.

scottlinux

Sep 21, 2005, 10:14 PM

Let iTunes manage your music library. You'll be glad you did. Trust us!

*Shudders* Ick! I hope you are joking.

Lacero

Sep 21, 2005, 10:48 PM

*Shudders* Ick! I hope you are joking.No. I am not joking. :rolleyes: Or am I? :D

mad jew

Sep 22, 2005, 07:43 AM

*Shudders* Ick! I hope you are joking.

So, what's wrong with letting iTunes looks after things?

potuncle

Sep 22, 2005, 06:06 PM

scottlinux

Sep 22, 2005, 09:37 PM

There's nothing wrong with iTunes organizing your music- that is if you never use any other computers/Operating systems to browse your music, or want to share your music with others easily on a disc, let's say. To NON-iTunes users.

Same with iPhoto. It's a nightmare looking in the folders of iPhoto where your photos are held. Pretty scary.

mad jew

Sep 22, 2005, 09:42 PM

There's nothing wrong with iTunes organizing your music- that is if you never use any other computers/Operating systems to browse your music, or want to share your music with others easily on a disc, let's say. To NON-iTunes users.

Hahaha! You jest, surely. You mean people use alternatives! :eek:
In all seriousness, I see where you're coming from but it's all fine if you do everything through iTunes - including the burning of MP3 disks for friends. I transfer a lot of music between my PC (XP) and my Macs trouble free. Of course, they both have iTunes though.

Same with iPhoto. It's a nightmare looking in the folders of iPhoto where your photos are held. Pretty scary.

Very true. Once again though, the best option is to Export your photos from the Share menu. :)

iPhoto is much worse than iTunes in this respect IMO.

Lacero

Sep 22, 2005, 11:29 PM

With the next upgrade of iTunes, I'd like to see a feature where the battery charging status of iPods connected are displayed in the iTunes window. That would be cool.

Tupring

Sep 25, 2005, 07:22 AM

So no bad news then ;)agreedSame here. I've never liked Brushed Metal.

ErikGrim

Sep 29, 2005, 02:24 AM

With the next upgrade of iTunes, I'd like to see a feature where the battery charging status of iPods connected are displayed in the iTunes window. That would be cool.
Definitely, post your idea here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html

Edit: That page is now for requesting MUSIC on the store???

me_94501

Sep 30, 2005, 01:42 AM

I've been getting a -48 error in iTunes when I try adding a song from my iTunes Library to my iPod (I manage my iPod manually). I'm running iTunes 5.0.1; iPod Software 3.1, 4G iPod (black and white screen).

Any ideas?

EDIT: It lets me copy over a few songs before it throws up its hands and gives me the type -48 error, in which case I need to (properly!) disconnect the iPod and reconnect it to get it to work again.

EDIT #2: I meant to post this as a separate thread, not respond to this thread. Oops! :o