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MacRumors
Dec 9, 2002, 12:18 PM
Last week we reported (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/12/20021205005734.shtml) that Neo-Modus (http://www.neo-modus.com) had posted that a Direct Connect OS X Client was in the works. Direct Connect is a P2P file trading system which claims 1 Petabyte of data shared. Their network is based on a "hub" system of individual user servers, similar to Hotline/Carracho in setup.

Jon Hess, the developer, let us know today that the Mac OS X Client has been released. Their main site (http://www.neo-modus.com) reflects this announcement, and the client may be downloaded from their download page (http://www.neo-modus.com/?page=Download).



aaronvegh
Dec 9, 2002, 12:19 PM
It's about freakin' time!

Bring it!!!

chewbaccapits
Dec 9, 2002, 12:25 PM
Wonder how popular this P2P will be.....Going to try it now... I don't like KDX as much because of the UI...Its kinda WINDOWSY...

foniks2020
Dec 9, 2002, 12:26 PM
first post!

heheh


I'm curious to find out if we (OS X users) also will have to share at least 30 GB or begin getting threats from other users that we are just 'leeching'?

What are your experiences so far?

Hemingray
Dec 9, 2002, 12:31 PM
So far, it feels like hotline minus the hunting obscure web pages for usernames and passwords. :rolleyes:

I'll stick to Acquisition and Lamewire, even if it means getting less results.

arn
Dec 9, 2002, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Hemingray
So far, it feels like hotline minus the hunting obscure web pages for usernames and passwords. :rolleyes:

I'll stick to Acquisition and Lamewire, even if it means getting less results.

Isn't the webpages/usernames/pw the worst part of hotline?

I personally file acquisition and limewire pratically useless.

arn

drastik
Dec 9, 2002, 12:38 PM
I'll certainly give this a try, I hate poking through Limewire crap. HL has been pretty crappy for over a year now. When people started asking for "donations" it got bad, and really sketchy, legaly.

macstudent
Dec 9, 2002, 12:52 PM
I have been using Direct Connect on the PC for over a year now and I love it. I was really happy to have it ported to os x. The problem is that there will be few mac files on the hubs. We will be stuck with mp3's and movies since apps and games will all be pc. Hopefully over time os x hubs will appear.

Stike
Dec 9, 2002, 01:15 PM
The whole concept sucks bigtime. I canīt connect to ANY hub, mostly because I donīt have 5 GB of minimum (!) files to share!! And btw I cannot connect to more than one hub at a time, as it seems. I get disconnected/redirected all the time.

XNap maybe slower, but it is far mor convenient than this BS system!! Sorry, but I needed that!

newmanium
Dec 9, 2002, 01:27 PM
i can log on to multiple hubs fine but is anyone else having trouble just trying to browse the users files themselves? i just get the "waiting" message no matter who i try to connect to and it stays that way the entire time. am i missing something or some kind of requirement i have to meet?

imamacguy17
Dec 9, 2002, 01:32 PM
all mine does is force quit. unexpectedly quit crap. thus far not impressed. as for limewire if i can ever down load anything its not bad but it never connects to any incomming hubs. help in either would be appreciated.

chewbaccapits
Dec 9, 2002, 01:43 PM
I thought Direct connect was only for the mac...Damn it....I guess your right movies and mp3, oh, and of course, let's not forget PORN.....Forget it.I'll stick with hotline..

gunb0y
Dec 9, 2002, 02:01 PM
OK, so lets stop complaining and make a direct connect hub for mac users. someone has to have an old server out there we can use.

bambam1648
Dec 9, 2002, 02:01 PM
I just tried the program and it seems to take quite a while for the files to become available to browse is this just the way it works?

springscansing
Dec 9, 2002, 02:21 PM
From my personal experience, Carracho rocks Hotline, and Carracho is mac only. I've found stuff on Carracho and Hotline didn't have at all. No, Carracho is not great for mp3s and movies and such... but its great for apps.

macstudent
Dec 9, 2002, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by chewbaccapits
I thought Direct connect was only for the mac...Damn it....I guess your right movies and mp3, oh, and of course, let's not forget PORN.....Forget it.I'll stick with hotline..

porn can be a movie

amnesiac1984
Dec 9, 2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by macstudent
I have been using Direct Connect on the PC for over a year now and I love it. I was really happy to have it ported to os x. The problem is that there will be few mac files on the hubs. We will be stuck with mp3's and movies since apps and games will all be pc. Hopefully over time os x hubs will appear.

My PC friend swears by DirectConnect and I'm glad its come out for the mac. Although I am experiencing similar problems to ppl here. I cannot download anything! file lists, or actually files. jsut says waiting!! please help.

lmalave
Dec 9, 2002, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by gunb0y
OK, so lets stop complaining and make a direct connect hub for mac users. someone has to have an old server out there we can use.

Hahaha! I like your sig, here are some other variations on the LOTR "wizards" line:

"Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are easy to annoy and have the root password."

"Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, they are quick to anger and have no need for subtlety"

addertheblack
Dec 9, 2002, 03:16 PM
I am in the process of writting a program in my spare time called Myster.

Imagine hotline but with an automatically managed tracker, no logins and real time searching and you get the idea of what I'm trying to do with Myster.

bascially all you need to do is type in a query and click search. The network is still small but the more people use it the bigger it will become.

anyways here's the link

http://www.mysternetworks.com/

AmbitiousLemon
Dec 9, 2002, 03:28 PM
seems a lot like IRC. lots of commands to memorize and type in and different hub/channels. the sharing limits are good i think, cuts down on leechers. if you dont have 10gb of files worth sharing then i really have to wonder — just rip some cds and you will have 10gb in no time.

the only problem i see is that i cant browse. like another user said, i just get stuck trying to download file lists. either im missing something (does the file list request get put in a queue?) or there is a rather large bug in this release.

brossow
Dec 9, 2002, 04:36 PM
Too bad this is a steaming pile and doesn't work, period. What a waste of my time. :mad:

iSmell
Dec 9, 2002, 04:48 PM
Try setting it to passive mode and reconnecting. That worked for me. I still haven't found any decently fast connections though, and a lot of the hubs seem to be in sweden.


cheese=good

Billicus
Dec 9, 2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by imamacguy17
all mine does is force quit. unexpectedly quit crap. thus far not impressed. as for limewire if i can ever down load anything its not bad but it never connects to any incomming hubs. help in either would be appreciated.

I think it's Jaguar only.

taeclee99
Dec 9, 2002, 05:04 PM
Finally, a real alternative to limewire. I have been using dc on the pc for the past year. This osx version runs great. I have had no trouble connecting to the smaller hubs. The ones with the 20+ gig sharing quota is a bit too much for me. I don't even have that much to share.

I still think Kazaalite under VPC is the best way to leech...er I mean evaluate music.

AmbitiousLemon
Dec 9, 2002, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by taeclee99
Finally, a real alternative to limewire. I have been using dc on the pc for the past year. This osx version runs great. I have had no trouble connecting to the smaller hubs. The ones with the 20+ gig sharing quota is a bit too much for me. I don't even have that much to share.

I still think Kazaalite under VPC is the best way to leech...er I mean evaluate music.

so i have a question for those you you who seem to have it working and who have experience with the pc version. when you are trying to browse other user's files do you typically have to wait a long time? is DC putting my request for a file list into some sort of queue?

i have gotten one file list so far, so i know it is not completely broken, but all the others still are listed as 'waiting' although waiting for what i have no idea.

aaronvegh
Dec 9, 2002, 05:54 PM
for those wondering why lists take forever to load. I think it has to do with the upload file limit set in the Files section of the Prefs. I upped mine to 10 and I get a lot more throughput.

Another issue is the fact that it could just be taking a while to get an unusually large listing of files from a slow-connected user.

I've had good success so far, and the key has been to connect to as many servers as you can and then do a search.

But browsing individual users' files is a lot of fun! You turn up the most amazing things. :-) One dude has every Calvin and Hobbes comic ever published!!!

d2photo
Dec 9, 2002, 06:02 PM
And this is the reason I have a hotline server with no donation/hunt for the password /banner BS

SunRiser
Dec 9, 2002, 06:02 PM
This Direct Connect really sink... be able to download a file from one ppl only gives baaaddd download speed :mad:

For me, the best peer-to-peer system is still mldonkey :cool: Nothing better than that for the mac! Period!

Give it a try ;)

LimeiBook86
Dec 9, 2002, 06:35 PM
Mine quits on me :( I guess I nee Jag

Who says u need 5gb of files being shared to download anything, thats crap!!! I only have like 5gb left and most of that is for Jaguar (when I get it)

AmbitiousLemon
Dec 9, 2002, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by LimeiBook86
Who says u need 5gb of files being shared to download anything, thats crap!!! I only have like 5gb left and most of that is for Jaguar (when I get it)

o come on. you don't have 5gb of mp3s you could share? your hard drive is so full that you only have 5gb left and yet not a single thing that is filling up your drive is worth sharing? if you are a leech, admit it but dont give lame excuses as to why you dont want to help other people.

LimeiBook86
Dec 9, 2002, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon


o come on. you don't have 5gb of mp3s you could share? your hard drive is so full that you only have 5gb left and yet not a single thing that is filling up your drive is worth sharing? if you are a leech, admit it but dont give lame excuses as to why you dont want to help other people.

LOL, Well I'm not a big music person so I don't have a ton of mp3s... I do have programs though... also I need Jagaur... Which I don't have... yet <PRAYING: please get as christmas gift... please get as christmas gift...> :rolleyes: Well I have files but I don't have any people would want, I meen all I have is a FireWire 80gb HD Filled with old versions of programs and tons of Adobe software that costs a lot of $$$.... well I have gone too far...

macstudent
Dec 9, 2002, 06:53 PM
Direct connect is kind of a crap shoot. I rarely use it to find a specific file. What i do use it for is to see what other people are sharing. When I find someone with a fast connection, I am inclined to download a lot of what they have and try it out. I use it to try new music, or things I handn't even thought of.

When I am log onto direct connect, I usually just search random hubs and people to find files that seem interesting to myself.

In regards to the people having problems connecting to other users. Set yourself to passive mode in the prefrences. Also, you just need to try and connect to every user. Honestly, you usually connect to about 1 out of 25. It is pretty crappy odds, but considering the number of people and files out there, it is not that bad. Just keep hunting and you will find what you are looking for.

Malus120
Dec 9, 2002, 07:13 PM
Exuse me but for some of you who are saying "oh 5GB is not that much to share cmon" keep in mind that not all of of have humungous 40+Gig drives. Some of us are still stuck on a ****ty Blue and White G3(upraded to 500Mhz but still slow). Sorry i have a 6 gig HD i just cant have 5gigs of files to share. Hell even if i did i dont need 5gigs of media stuff on my HD thank you.

taeclee99
Dec 9, 2002, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon


so i have a question for those you you who seem to have it working and who have experience with the pc version. when you are trying to browse other user's files do you typically have to wait a long time? is DC putting my request for a file list into some sort of queue?

i have gotten one file list so far, so i know it is not completely broken, but all the others still are listed as 'waiting' although waiting for what i have no idea.

The pc version of dc does not have a long wait time to browse for files. On the other hand getting the file you want does take a while. Requests are put in a queue so you have to wait for an available slot to open up for you to download something.

MacAztec
Dec 9, 2002, 07:17 PM
This app rules. I shared my music folder (about 2GB) and my games folder (about 4GB).

I get into nice servers. Right now im in 4 hubs sharing a total of about 50 terrabytes. its pretty sweet. Im DLing 3 movies, and 5 songs!

ChoMomma
Dec 9, 2002, 11:22 PM
I've tried it on PC before... and I was able to get a few audio files... tried some larger files and it was O K at best for me.

I'll stick to Carracho for all my Mac needs : )

---> I admin a Carracho server anyways so i'm biased :D

**hint I run my webpage on the same machine as my server.... hehe

blogo
Dec 10, 2002, 07:54 AM
I hope they release DC++ soon, cause this client doesn't really work.

saabmp3
Dec 10, 2002, 09:31 AM
I think everybody here is trying to use DC in the wrong way. It is NOT like kazaa where you sign on and everything majically appears. This is why napster had trouble, it was too central. Direct Connect's method is to have alot of decentrialized servers where you meet up with lots of other users and share things. It is VERY popular on college campuses. Where I am we have 16.5TB's min on the network at all times and transfers are around 1-10MB/s usually, all because it on the local area network. People who don't come from our LAN are not allowed to join into the server. This is why DC is great, it gives a local group of people (about 15000 here) a quick way to throw around stuff.

For you people who are complaining that you can't download off of multiple users at the same time, stop b****ing. You're not supposed to be able to. DC is not a dial-up oriented service.

If you have the right connection and know the right server's, then DC is amazing. If you don't then move on cause this isn't for you.

BEN

iSmell
Dec 10, 2002, 02:22 PM
So is there any good way to find out if there's a server on your LAN? I'm at college and I'm getting pretty slow connections so far, but if there's a local server it would be much faster. We had an openNap based thing a while ago, but it got shut down. It sure was nice while it lasted though.

swahilibill
Dec 10, 2002, 03:36 PM
this is really interesting, all of u guys cant get it to work and mine works famously. I now have a p2p that is as good as kazaa in my opinon(w.o the ************ pc tho..)



Originally posted by Eple
I hope they release DC++ soon, cause this client doesn't really work.

WannabeSQ
Dec 10, 2002, 11:57 PM
works fine here, i wish there were some english hubs to connect to, i dont speak sweedish. I can find some stuff searching, but i dont think that is the best way. This reminds me of how I used to DL stuff from usenet, look to see what is there and DL what sounds interesting. Not quite as reliable, but fair. I like the interface, but a tabbed system a la limewire would reduce the clutter.

bigdog
Dec 11, 2002, 09:11 AM
I'm surprised no one mentioned the popup advertisements that it will open on your system.

http://www.neo-modus.com/MacPop.php

That's the URL that popped open in IE a couple times while I was using DC. Don't click that. Really. Don't. Don't encourage adware.

The file sharing limits and such are reasonable, after all, why be a leech when your upstream is doing nothing at all?

But at the same time, I echo the sentiments of an earlier poster: this is still lame in comparison to free Hotline servers of old, and I will continue to run a free one for as long as I can. Requiring uploads, banner clicking, and all that other stuff isn't necessary... the best HL servers came about from users' willingness to contribute on a whim, not as a requisite.

edited because the link didn't have a disclaimer. really, you shouldn't click it.

WannabeSQ
Dec 11, 2002, 03:49 PM
I've gotten that, but nothing shows up on the page, I use chimera 0.6 Is it bad? or just annoying?