new iMac video card

[slipper]

how much better is the X600 XT than the X600 Pro?

[robbieduncan]

how much better is the X600 XT than the X600 Pro?

A tiny amount. The difference is really not that much.

You can see some benchmarks here (http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050524/vga_charts-02.html).

[VanMac]

A tiny amount. The difference is really not that much.

You can see some benchmarks here (http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050524/vga_charts-02.html).
By looking at numbers, it looks to be at least 15% better performance. Not exactly tiny......

[robbieduncan]

By looking at numbers, it looks to be at least 15% better performance. Not exactly tiny......

I suppose it depends on how you look at it! Compared to the total variance on those charts it's not much!

[Lord Blackadder]

Wow, the Radeon X300 clobbers the GeForce 5950. I remember when the 5950 was bleeding edge...

There isn't a whole lot of performance difference between the two cards. Get the faster one if you can, if not it won't make any differerence unless you are a gaming freak. In which case why would you buy an iMac anyway? ;)

[Demon Hunter]

I thought the X600 is roughly equivalent to 9600, only PCI-E?

[MacsRgr8]

Waiting for the ultimate test:

Doom 3 on these new iMacs.

[fklehman]

Waiting for the ultimate test:

Doom 3 on these new iMacs.

Yeah you aren't kidding...it runs terribly on my Performa! :D

[GroundLoop]

Yeah you aren't kidding...it runs terribly on my Performa! :D

You think that is bad...you should see it on my modded Newton. ;)

Hickman

[CanadaRAM]

I thought the X600 is roughly equivalent to 9600, only PCI-E?
Well it depends which 9600 you are talking about, 9600, 9600 Pro 9600 XT. They all have different core speeds.

[yoda13]

I assume that even though its pci-express that it is still permanently attached to the midplane assembly and cannot be upgraded later...does anyone know if I am correct in assuming this?

[fklehman]

You think that is bad...you should see it on my modded Newton. ;)

Hickman

Well at least your Newton was modded...my Performa was stock! ROTFL

Intel Newtons on October 19!

[robbieduncan]

I assume that even though its pci-express that it is still permanently attached to the midplane assembly and cannot be upgraded later...does anyone know if I am correct in assuming this?

Until someone gets a new iMac or Apple release the normal developer note we can't be sure. It's a fair assumption that it's not a 16x PCIe slot! PCIe is a bit like AGP: it's an interconnect technology, you can have it slotted or soldered to the motherboard.

[Dont Hurt Me]

And Apple will have it soldered on that motherboard because one its cheaper then using a Video card something that has allways kept imac Down and two if you cant replace that card it forces you into a new machine sooner. Shame on Apple Greedy Corporate Pigs.

This New Mac isnt going to show much over last months iMac in Doom3 scores. Its why they threw in all the otherstuff. They needed to show a "newer iMac". My guess is a few more frames if that.

[SteveC]

How do the 128MB ATI Radeon X600 Pro & XT graphics cards in the 3rd Generation (current) iMac G5s compare to the 128MB ATI Radeon 9600 in the 2nd Generation iMac?

I have a 1.8GHz iMac with the 9600... how much difference is there between the systems?

[Applespider]

And Apple will have it soldered on that motherboard because one its cheaper then using a Video card something that has allways kept imac Down and two if you cant replace that card it forces you into a new machine sooner. Shame on Apple Greedy Corporate Pigs.

And because 95% of the people buying an iMac have never heard of the concept of upgrading a graphics card or never intend to upgrade the graphics card and would much rather have the money off the purchase price instead...