How many iBook owners play DOOM 3 on their iBooks?

[slooksterPSV]

I was playing DOOM 3 Demo on my iBook and it ran reasonably. How many of you play DOOM 3 Demo or even the Full version on their iBooks? Does it run ok? Or what?

[DaftUnion]

The port for Doom 3 for mac wasn't good, and the framerate suffers because of the not-so-great port over. The windows version is faster...sorry to say...probably because they spent less time for the mac port...but I'm not 100% sure on that. I heard this somewhere before on here. It'll still run on mac ok, but you'll have to turn down the settings.

[Chundles]

I didn't think you could, the minimum specs are a 1.5GHz G4 and a 64MB video card. I didn't think it would even work on an iBook.

[slooksterPSV]

I didn't think you could, the minimum specs are a 1.5GHz G4 and a 64MB video card. I didn't think it would even work on an iBook.
I played all the way through the demo, yes I did have a lot of hickups when going into a high open space hall or getting too many enemies (like 3), but other than that, it played really well. I love it. But scares the heck out of me.

[Lord Blackadder]

It was reasonably playable on the G4 tower in my sig, which is pretty close to a new iBook spec other than the SATA hard drive.

[Demon Hunter]

I was playing DOOM 3 Demo on my iBook and it ran reasonably. How many of you play DOOM 3 Demo or even the Full version on their iBooks? Does it run ok? Or what?

Are you nuts??

I can't even play it on my 1.67/2GB PowerBook...

[homerjward]

it runs like ass on my amd 3500+ with x800, so personally i wouldn't try it on an ibook. but different people have different definitions of good performance, so if it's acceptable to you then i say go for it! it's a great game, and scares me more than any game or movie...

[Xeem]

it runs like AS5 on my amd 3500+ with x800, so personally i wouldn't try it on an ibook. but different people have different definitions of good performance, so if it's acceptable to you then i say go for it! it's a great game, and scares me more than any game or movie...
If that's true, you need to check your computer out. My Athlon64 3000 with a gig of RAM and a Radeon 9700 Pro ran it well enough at medium defaults; I haven't tried it out since adding another 512 MB RAM and a 6600GT, but it plays F.E.A.R. well enough, and Doom 3 is significantly easier to run.

That said, I would imagine iBooks would only barely scrape the bottom of the barrel in playable framerates, maybe enough for some but I need a consistent 40 to be happy.

[jiv3turkey748]

it runs great on my imac but i never thought it would run on an ibook

[SiliconAddict]

The port for Doom 3 for mac wasn't good

LOL. Doom 3 itself WASN'T good from a developing perspective even on the PC. Sorry when there isn't hardware on the market that can run the game with all the major settings turned onto high, or at least there wasn't when the game came out. How did they spin it? Its a game that will grow as new hardware shows up. Ah-huh. right. :rolleyes:

this just proves that one person's "reasonably" is anothers "OMG HELL NO"! :cool:

[slooksterPSV]

Oh man, you guys are scared to run advanced hardware games on older hardware?!! I've learned that some games will, it all depends on what computer you use. The iBooks pump out more power than most think. During the slow parts, I think my FPS was about (this is the lowest it would hit) 8FPS, at max though it was about 60FPS.

[slooksterPSV]

That's it I'm getting screenshots that I take!

[Demon Hunter]

Oh man, you guys are scared to run advanced hardware games on older hardware?!! I've learned that some games will, it all depends on what computer you use. The iBooks pump out more power than most think. During the slow parts, I think my FPS was about (this is the lowest it would hit) 8FPS, at max though it was about 60FPS.

Dude you're killing me, there's no way an iBook could get 60fps unless you're staring at a single polygon. :p

[slooksterPSV]

Dude you're killing me, there's no way an iBook could get 60fps unless you're staring at a single polygon. :p
If I had a camera I would show you, is there a program to rate my FPS on Doom 3?

[Lord Blackadder]

this just proves that one person's "reasonably" is anothers "OMG HELL NO"! :cool:

that's pretty much how every "How does [GAME] run on my [Mac Model]?" thread ends up here.

Personally I can usually enjoy an FPS game that averages in the mid 20's - I can tolerate a lot of choppiness. Many people require a more ideal framerate (i.e. 40-60+ FPS). So I can run Doom 3 on my 1.4GHz G4, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9600 Pro and call it "reasonable" while the FPS junkie would probably call it "unplayable".

Bottom line: if you are anything more than a casual gamer Doom 3 is a no-go on the iBook, even the new one.

[G5Unit]

I have a disease where everything has to be all or nothing for me. That's why if I am playing doom 3, I want to get the full expierience. So I turn EVERYTHING on and it runs good for me. I would say a casual, maybe a little more intense player, would like fps around the 24(for the movie look) to 40fps. I mean, once you go past around maybe 30-40fps, your eys cant tell the difference anymore. So why bother playing a game at 120fps lie the new PS3? Example:

Myst 5: Playable at 20fps.
Halo: Playable at 25fps
Doom 3: 25fps
Call of Duty: 30fps
BF 1942: 40fps
Total Immersion Racing: 40-50fps

Thats how I put it.

[homerjward]

If that's true, you need to check your computer out. My Athlon64 3000 with a gig of RAM and a Radeon 9700 Pro ran it well enough at medium defaults; I haven't tried it out since adding another 512 MB RAM and a 6600GT, but it plays F.E.A.R. well enough, and Doom 3 is significantly easier to run.

That said, I would imagine iBooks would only barely scrape the bottom of the barrel in playable framerates, maybe enough for some but I need a consistent 40 to be happy.
i suppose i should make these disclaimers: i run it at high settings, 1280x1024 if that makes any difference. i dont know how to count framerate but it gets really laggy a lot of the time...

[ReanimationLP]

i suppose i should make these disclaimers: i run it at high settings, 1280x1024 if that makes any difference. i dont know how to count framerate but it gets really laggy a lot of the time...

Heh. I run it on my Radeon 9600 at the same settings. Never gets too slow at all really. Quite smooth. Of course, the core is clocked to 475 up from 325, but maybe thats just me. o.o

[carpe diem]

Would it be good on a PB

[steelfist]

Myst 5: Playable at 20fps.
Halo: Playable at 25fps
Doom 3: 25fps
Call of Duty: 30fps
BF 1942: 40fps
Total Immersion Racing: 40-50fps

Thats how I put it.

and to add with that, neverwinter nights is playable from 15 fps and up.

[maddav]

just played the Doom 3 demo on my iBook (1GHz, 512MB RAM) after reading this thread, well it played, and it was actually alright for the most part, but when those weird monstery things that use fireballs started attcking me, the slowdown really became cumbersome.

Quite frankly, I'm amazed it played at all!

[slooksterPSV]

Remember, what statistics/requirements they say may not always be true. Each hardware is different in its own way. Personally, I'm wondering if the iB's are more powerful then the PB's in some aspects?

[Demon Hunter]

Remember, what statistics/requirements they say may not always be true. Each hardware is different in its own way. Personally, I'm wondering if the iB's are more powerful then the PB's in some aspects?

If you go by stats... there's absolutely no way... unless it's some freak engineering accident. Are you running the game full screen?

[slooksterPSV]

If you go by stats... there's absolutely no way... unless it's some freak engineering accident. Are you running the game full screen?
Yeah, how do you take it out of full screen?

[Demon Hunter]

Yeah, how do you take it out of full screen?

:eek:

It should be a checkbox in the System pane.

[Dagless]

hehe i love it when people say "eet runs liek crpa on mi 3000gHz Quadra 4500 vedio card wiv 234gb RAM!!"

It runs on my P4 2ghz, Radeon 9600 pro, 512mb DDR ram machine perfectly. thats in 800x600 ultra graphics. no slowdown. no jumping. there was a level that ran slow, think it was the Hell levels when I 'teleported' there. lots of texture loading but after the 20 jumpy seconds it was fine.
Plays OK on my powerbook but the graphics have to be really turned down. but its playable. aka; you can play it. I can imagine the iBook have a hard time with it but it will boot up and play.

[generik]

How many FPS have you been getting?

I always get this impression that macs are totally teh sux0rs when it comes to gaming.

[Soulstorm]

The port for Doom 3 for mac wasn't good, and the framerate suffers because of the not-so-great port over. The windows version is faster...sorry to say...probably because they spent less time for the mac port...but I'm not 100% sure on that. I heard this somewhere before on here. It'll still run on mac ok, but you'll have to turn down the settings.
Actually, Aspyr did the best they could. It's the doom 3's engine that doesn't allow portability over other platforms.

and the port is solid. It doesn't crash and it uses every available resources in the system.

And have you ever seen doom 3 running on 1GHz mac with GeForce 4 MX? I have in my house. and I will never believe someone if he tells me that he ran doom 3 in 1Ghz PC. So i think that indicates that doom 3 is a good port.

[slooksterPSV]

Actually, Aspyr did the best they could. It's the doom 3's engine that doesn't allow portability over other platforms.

and the port is solid. It doesn't crash and it uses every available resources in the system.

And have you ever seen doom 3 running on 1GHz mac with GeForce 4 MX? I have in my house. and I will never believe someone if he tells me that he ran doom 3 in 1Ghz PC. So i think that indicates that doom 3 is a good port.
I played doom 3 on my old PC here are its specs:
AMD Duron 1.10 GHz
384MB RAM
64MB ATI Radeon 9000 Video Card
30GB HDD
Windows XP SP1

Didn't run as well as it runs on my iBook though.

[maddav]

Now I am truly amazed, I decided to hook my iBook up to my LCD TV, therefore splitting the available VRAM in half, I started up Doom 3, changed 1 setting, and it played AS well as it did on the iBook, only I got further, because I was using a mouse & keyboard, as opposed to the iBook trackpad & reduced keyboard.

There we have it, 1 GHz iBook with 512MB RAM & 16MB VRAM plays Doom 3!!

:)

[slooksterPSV]

Now I am truly amazed, I decided to hook my iBook up to my LCD TV, therefore splitting the available VRAM in half, I started up Doom 3, changed 1 setting, and it played AS well as it did on the iBook, only I got further, because I was using a mouse & keyboard, as opposed to the iBook trackpad & reduced keyboard.

There we have it, 1 GHz iBook with 512MB RAM & 16MB VRAM plays Doom 3!!

:)
=D, but I think it allocates the more VRAM to what needs it - via where Doom 3 is running otherwise it mirrors it in which no extra/splitting VRAM is needed.

[maddav]

=D, but I think it allocates the more VRAM to what needs it - via where Doom 3 is running otherwise it mirrors it in which no extra/splitting VRAM is needed.

Well I just tested it, and it still indicated in system profiler, (while I had the game running at 800x600 in a separate window) that 16MB of VRAM was in use (after refreshing system profiler a number of times).

btw. I have mirroring 'enabled' on my iBook, if that makes any difference. :p

[slooksterPSV]

Well I just tested it, and it still indicated in system profiler, (while I had the game running at 800x600 in a separate window) that 16MB of VRAM was in use (after refreshing system profiler a number of times).

btw. I have mirroring 'enabled' on my iBook, if that makes any difference. :p
Ok now I'm not sure. Mirroring I know makes it to where the contents on one screen are on another one. So you ran Doom 3 with 16MB of VRAM, but I'm sure there is an allocation in there somewhere.

[Demon Hunter]

hehe i love it when people say "eet runs liek crpa on mi 3000gHz Quadra 4500 vedio card wiv 234gb RAM!!"

It runs on my P4 2ghz, Radeon 9600 pro, 512mb DDR ram machine perfectly. thats in 800x600 ultra graphics. no slowdown. no jumping. there was a level that ran slow, think it was the Hell levels when I 'teleported' there. lots of texture loading but after the 20 jumpy seconds it was fine.
Plays OK on my powerbook but the graphics have to be really turned down. but its playable. aka; you can play it. I can imagine the iBook have a hard time with it but it will boot up and play.

Unfortunately you weren't actually playing in Ultra quality, because that requires 512MB of VRAM. It will revert if you try.

No offense guys but I bet you 99% of gamers would be laughing out of their chairs at this thread. I recommend playing the game on a system that's actually capable before making comparisons or "omgg!1!1 it runz on 16vrammm!!!22"

[slooksterPSV]

Unfortunately you weren't actually playing in Ultra quality, because that requires 512MB of VRAM. It will revert if you try.

No offense guys but I bet you 99% of gamers would be laughing out of their chairs at this thread. I recommend playing the game on a system that's actually capable before making comparisons or "omgg!1!1 it runz on 16vrammm!!!22"
Well its true that most software will run on a lower spec systems depending on who makes what - Windows wise. But on OS X I think the specs they may set higher so people go out and purchase higher spec systems to run those pieces of software - like Aperature, it says it requires 64MB VRAM and 1GB of RAM, but I bet I could run it on my iBook with what specs I have now.

[maddav]

Unfortunately you weren't actually playing in Ultra quality, because that requires 512MB of VRAM. It will revert if you try.

No offense guys but I bet you 99% of gamers would be laughing out of their chairs at this thread. I recommend playing the game on a system that's actually capable before making comparisons or "omgg!1!1 it runz on 16vrammm!!!22"

I'm not a gamer, I'm just a curious iBook owner. :p

ZOMG!!1! tEH VRaM iZ teH haXoR!!!1!!!!1!111

(sorry, always wanted to try that)

[slooksterPSV]

No brawls now ok? I want to download the DOOM revision for Mac.

[maddav]

No brawls now ok?

Yes sir :)

[Demon Hunter]

No brawls now ok? I want to download the DOOM revision for Mac.

I wish there was a revised Demo! I even tricked the updater by renaming the program "Doom 3" but then it asked for a CD. :o

I bet it has a lot of optimizations...

[slooksterPSV]

I wish there was a revised Demo! I even tricked the updater by renaming the program "Doom 3" but then it asked for a CD. :o

I bet it has a lot of optimizations...
Never know. I hope it does, maybe it runs faster now. It's just like HALO Demo, I bumped everything up to the best. 9x Sampling, Vertext Blending, etc. and it runs very well. No hiccups really.

[ReanimationLP]

Unfortunately you weren't actually playing in Ultra quality, because that requires 512MB of VRAM. It will revert if you try.

No offense guys but I bet you 99% of gamers would be laughing out of their chairs at this thread. I recommend playing the game on a system that's actually capable before making comparisons or "omgg!1!1 it runz on 16vrammm!!!22"

Ultra Quality will run on any amount of VRAM. Its recommended that you have 512 MB of VRAM, but if you dont then you'll see a lot of slowdowns depending on how much RAM you have as the machine dumps the next items for the video card to process from the RAM to the VRAM and back again.

[Dagless]

is that 512mb VRAM for any system? Me and my mate both have 128mb cards (mine is a Radeon 9600pro, his a 9800) and we can both run Doom 3 in ultra quality with no slowdown or hiccups.

[slooksterPSV]

You know what, I think that at highest, the card should be 128MB or 256MB if it was optimized properly. This just sounds like it was ported.

[Demon Hunter]

is that 512mb VRAM for any system? Me and my mate both have 128mb cards (mine is a Radeon 9600pro, his a 9800) and we can both run Doom 3 in ultra quality with no slowdown or hiccups.

From the designers:

In Ultra quality, we load each texture; diffuse, specular, normal map at full resolution with no compression. In a typical DOOM 3 level, this can hover around a whopping 500MB of texture data...due to the hitching that can occur we chose to require a 512MB Video card before setting [Ultra Quality] automatically.

Ultra quality also turns on anisotropic filtering automatically. If you turn off that and FSAA, lower the resolution... not very "ultra" is it? So while it can be enabled, there's really no point.

[slooksterPSV]

SCREENSHOTS!!!!
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1875799&posted=1#post1875799

There ya go!

[tom.96]

Do I take it you use the 9550 instead of the 9200? Is there much of a boost between the two cards?

I have run games on my machine even though my hardware was under the specs, sometimes significantly so. Even so - I doubt Doom 3 will run on a G3 400 with 8 meg Rage card ;)

[maddav]

Do I take it you use the 9550 instead of the 9200? Is there much of a boost between the two cards?

I have run games on my machine even though my hardware was under the specs, sometimes significantly so. Even so - I doubt Doom 3 will run on a G3 400 with 8 meg Rage card ;)

Worth a try :p

[biohazard6969]

ummm is it bad that the demo lags a lot on the default settings on my new imac 20"???

[slooksterPSV]

Do I take it you use the 9550 instead of the 9200? Is there much of a boost between the two cards?

I have run games on my machine even though my hardware was under the specs, sometimes significantly so. Even so - I doubt Doom 3 will run on a G3 400 with 8 meg Rage card ;)
Yessir mine is 9550, it has a speed boost compared to 9200

[Melkor]

Are you nuts??

I can't even play it on my 1.67/2GB PowerBook...

Are you serious? I'm getting a 1.67/2GB/7200rpm PowerBook on monday (it was supposed to be here yesterday though) and I thought it would run Doom3 no bother.

Please tell me you're joking.

Is there anyway i can update the video ram from 128 to 256mb or even 512? (if not now will it be possible in the future?)

[steelfist]

the demo ran quite fine on on my ibook g4 on 640 resolution with shadows turned off(1.33 1 G RAM12 inch latest ibook)
however, i can run it at maximum resolution of 1024 with high settings on my PC desktop at home, and i have the full game, so why play on my ibook? :rolleyes: