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coopdog
Dec 29, 2002, 11:07 AM
"2003 Guinness Book Of World Records" Quote:

"A McLaren F1 driven by Andy Wallace (UK) at the volkswagen Proving Ground, Wolfsburg, Germany, on March 31 1998, reached 2401.1 mph, a world record for a standard production car."

Someone needs to know how to use decimals.



MrMacMan
Dec 29, 2002, 11:55 AM
I might be out of it, but I don't see anything wrong with that...
2401.1 MPH is pritty fast man... :cool:

edesignuk
Dec 29, 2002, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
I might be out of it, but I don't see anything wrong with that...
2401.1 MPH is pritty fast man... :cool:
I think the point is that a Mc F1 cannot go 2401.1mph, the decimal is in the wrong place, it should be 240.11mph (which I think is about right, it is supposed to do 240mph). :)

coopdog
Dec 29, 2002, 12:06 PM
The land speed record is held by "The Blue Flame" (631.367 mph). "The Blue Flame" is a rocket powered car. The fastest Wheel driven car speed record is (409.986 mph). The McLaren F1 is a wheel driven car so there is now way it went 2401.1 mph. It went (386.7 km/h).

MrMacMan
Dec 29, 2002, 12:30 PM
Ah...
Now i thought 2000+ MPH was feasible...
*slowly passes drugs along*
Too much for me. ;)
Edit: I don't really take drugs.

G4scott
Dec 29, 2002, 02:13 PM
I wish my Ford Escort could go that fast... Either 240.11 or 2401.1 mph. Either way, I'd be pleased... The only thing is that at either speed, I think the car would easily become airborne...

sparkleytone
Dec 29, 2002, 03:53 PM
yea!

only

648,000,000mph to go!

Roger1
Dec 29, 2002, 04:02 PM
I wish my Ford Escort could go that fast... Either 240.11 or 2401.1 mph. Either way, I'd be pleased... The only thing is that at either speed, I think the car would easily become airborne...

Heh. You could always hook up a couple of JATO's to it....Then the urban legend would be true. WHOOOOOOOOOSHHHH!!! :D :D :D

orangedv
Dec 29, 2002, 04:53 PM
The land speed record is held by "The Blue Flame" (631.367 mph). "The Blue Flame" is a rocket powered car. The fastest Wheel driven car speed record is (409.986 mph). The McLaren F1 is a wheel driven car so there is now way it went 2401.1 mph. It went (386.7 km/

Naaaaa, Thrust 2 (another British car) kicked Blue Flame's arse a few years back, broke the sound barrier and sent a sonic boom across the desert.

The Mclaren is top of the pile right now on the road, but watch out for the new Bugatti (complete with 2 colour bodywork) THAT machine is a road car with 1000 BHP.

funkywhat2
Dec 29, 2002, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Ah...
Now i thought 2000+ MPH was feasible...
*slowly passes drugs along*
Too much for me. ;)
Edit: I don't really take drugs.


Sure you don't....:D

Sun Baked
Dec 29, 2002, 05:32 PM
I'll take the Banks Project Sidewinder Dakota diesel truck that can tow most record attempt vehicles to the track, and still be quick enough to go operate as a chase vehicle at 222.139 MPH.

Knox
Dec 29, 2002, 06:28 PM
Naaaaa, Thrust 2 (another British car) kicked Blue Flame's arse a few years back, broke the sound barrier and sent a sonic boom across the desert.

That was the Thrust SSC actually, Thrust 2 was faster than The Blue Flame but only just - it got 633mph.

The Guiness World Records 2003 is a little confused when it comes to the fastest cars. It lists the Blue Flame under the "Fastest Cars" section but also lists the "Official Land-Speed Record" as a separate record, which is the Thrust SSC at 763mph.

cubist
Dec 29, 2002, 06:34 PM
... altho that production is not a very great volume, since the price is around $900,000 USD. The production volume of most "standard production cars" is a little higher, and the price is a little lower.

I think you can get a Lotus Esprit for about $90,000 (1/10 the price of the F1) and it will go about 170MPH. If you've just got to hit that magic 200MPH, though, you're going to have to pay a lot more. Also you can't drive those speeds on just any old "road". Few US highways are smooth enough for much more than 100MPH.

mcrain
Dec 29, 2002, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Knox


That was the Thrust SSC actually, Thrust 2 was faster than The Blue Flame but only just - it got 633mph.

The Guiness World Records 2003 is a little confused when it comes to the fastest cars. It lists the Blue Flame under the "Fastest Cars" section but also lists the "Official Land-Speed Record" as a separate record, which is the Thrust SSC at 763mph.

Another topic up my alley. As a former Aero Engineer...

The land speed record is different from the fastest cars section because the land speed record is held by what is essentially a supersonic aircraft with wing surfaces designed to keep the craft on the ground.

sturm375
Dec 29, 2002, 07:18 PM
Land speed record is Mach 1.02.

http://www.cybersteering.com/trimain/famous/fastest.html

Knox
Dec 29, 2002, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by mcrain
The land speed record is different from the fastest cars section because the land speed record is held by what is essentially a supersonic aircraft with wing surfaces designed to keep the craft on the ground.

Yeah, quite true... although in that case the Blue Flame shouldn't be in the fastest cars bit.

Les Kern
Dec 29, 2002, 09:37 PM
Fastest production Pinto:
My 1972 2-Door Runabout that hit 140.45 mph when the parking brake failed while parked at the Grand Canyon. It was in the papers, but Guinness took a pass.

Will Jones
Dec 30, 2002, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by orangedv
The Mclaren is top of the pile right now on the road, but watch out for the new Bugatti (complete with 2 colour bodywork) THAT machine is a road car with 1000 BHP.

http://www.csi-auto.nl/carshopping/0703/BUGATTI1.JPG
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/164veyron.html

Sends chills down my spine.

Choppaface
Dec 30, 2002, 02:14 AM
it probably weighs as much as an SUV though

3777
Dec 30, 2002, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by G4scott
I wish my Ford Escort could go that fast... Either 240.11 or 2401.1 mph. Either way, I'd be pleased... The only thing is that at either speed, I think the car would easily become airborne...


It probably wouldn't look to good if it hit anything either:(

wdlove
Dec 30, 2002, 10:52 AM
Russ Wicks carved his name into the "2003 Guinness Book Of World Records" as the driver of the fastest propeller-driven boat in history. Wicks piloted the Miss Freei unlimited hydroplane across the one-mile section of Lake Washington with an average speed of 205.494 mph. The record run ended the longest-standing major speed record in motorsports history.

http://www.russwicks.com/

jefhatfield
Jan 2, 2003, 11:20 AM
what is the fastest car off the lot that is not a special order item like a ferarri f-40 or jaguar 220?

super trivia facts calls the ferrari f-60 the fastest road car but there is no top speed listed and i don't know if it's a car that is a production car that one can buy from a dealership off the lot

would it be the acura nsx, a dodge viper, or a porsche 911 derivative, or a new camaro?

sturm375
Jan 2, 2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
what is the fastest car off the lot that is not a special order item like a ferarri f-40 or jaguar 220?

would it be the acura nsx, or a porsche 911 derivative, or a new camaro?

I am not sure the Dodge Viper is special order, but domestically this car blows away all the rest, according to the articles I've read.

jefhatfield
Jan 2, 2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by sturm375


I am not sure the Dodge Viper is special order, but domestically this car blows away all the rest, according to the articles I've read.

when i went into the ferrari dealiership some years ago, i saw an f-40 but it was one that someone had ordered and it was not a production car that would be made unless someone ordered it first...like some models of a bentley

the dealership was just showing it off until that person picked it up...but the regular for sale, already produced ferraris were there, and not nearly as fast or agile as the dealer mentioned

but a lot cheaper and more practical

the custom f-40 had no carpeting in it, no ashtray, no radio, no glove compartment...and only brake lights and turn indicators

otherwise, it looked just like some car off the racetrack

hvfsl
Jan 2, 2003, 11:55 AM
You poor Americans can't drive much above 60mph. Go to Germany where there is no speed limit on the straight bits of the autoban. I know someone who has gone 200Mph on it in a porsche.

Also because of a stupid law you Americans are passing, it means the end of the sports/super car, since the cars have to be designed in future so that people don't die if they do not wear a seat belt. Which means cars will look like vans or buses. The car makers are not going to make one car for Europe and one for the US, they use standard designs on super cars. They make cars that take into account laws from all the countires they are run in.

jefhatfield
Jan 2, 2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
You poor Americans can't drive much above 60mph. Go to Germany where there is no speed limit on the straight bits of the autoban. I know someone who has gone 200Mph on it in a porsche.

Also because of a stupid law you Americans are passing, it means the end of the sports/super car, since the cars have to be designed in future so that people don't die if they do not wear a seat belt. Which means cars will look like vans or buses. The car makers are not going to make one car for Europe and one for the US, they use standard designs on super cars. They make cars that take into account laws from all the countires they are run in.

the nsx had an upgrade aftermarket feature that was legal in holland but would not pass the emissions standards anywhere in the usa...the european legal nsx was reported to do 250-260 mph...a full 20 mph faster than i heard of any usa modified nsx that would still be legal

and going superfast in germany...wouldn't that be ridiculously expensive with the price of gasoline? i would think that any distance over 100 miles would be cheaper to fly

with the airline rates wars in the us, renting a car for long distances for a weekly rate is the only way to go...otherwise, in many situations, it's cheaper to fly

during dot.com in the bay area, otherwise ordinary middle class people were employing drivers to take them places...something only seen with the rich

akamai was letting it's techies take $200 lunch breaks on the company dime...anything to dodge taxes

at this point, that is not the case:D

hvfsl
Jan 2, 2003, 03:55 PM
You seem to think Europe is bigger than it is. It takes about 10 hours to go from one side of Germany to the other in a car. Also I am not saying driving is better than flying, just that you can drive your 200mph car at 200mph in Germany (as long as your tires are good enough or they will blow).

Also manufacturers will not change the bodywork design of the car from country to country and it is the shape of the car that the new US law is regulating, not the engine like in your example.

jefhatfield
Jan 2, 2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
You seem to think Europe is bigger than it is. It takes about 10 hours to go from one side of Germany to the other in a car. Also I am not saying driving is better than flying, just that you can drive your 200mph car at 200mph in Germany (as long as your tires are good enough or they will blow).

Also manufacturers will not change the bodywork design of the car from country to country and it is the shape of the car that the new US law is regulating, not the engine like in your example.

that still can't make speeding fast in a car a cheap endeavor;)