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MacRumors
Dec 21, 2005, 06:29 PM
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Available in Software Update for Aperture users:
Aperture 1.0.1 Update addresses a number of issues related to reliability and performance. It also delivers improved image export quality and metadata handling. Among the key areas addressed are:

White balance adjustment accuracy and performance
Image export quality
Book and print ordering reliability
Auto-stacking performance
Custom paper size handling
This update is recommended for all Aperture users.
Alternatively, the download is available from Apple's website. (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/aperture101update.html)



me hate windows
Dec 21, 2005, 06:31 PM
hmm, I didn't see any performance problems before, but I'll update anyway. Hopefully there is a noticeable difference in speed

MacsRgr8
Dec 21, 2005, 06:32 PM
That's pretty quick.

Not large though... just 11.9 MB

~Shard~
Dec 21, 2005, 06:32 PM
Great to see an update so soon. It's nice to see Apple is taking this new offering seriously and addressing issues promptly.

camomac
Dec 21, 2005, 06:47 PM
i'm also glad to see apple on the ball.
-and i do have aperture!

tpatricks
Dec 21, 2005, 06:50 PM
i'm also glad to see apple on the ball.
-and i do have aperture!

It's good to see Apple's new strategy for software development in action. Just as with iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, and nearly everything else, Apple's moving in stages. Release a straightforward, competent, attractive application. The release a steady stream of updates, improvements, new features. Smart.

How smart? I own just about everything Apple's publishing these days.

BTW -- I'm baaaaaaack!

iGary
Dec 21, 2005, 06:52 PM
It's good to see Apple's new strategy for software development in action. Just as with iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, and nearly everything else, Apple's moving in stages. Release a straightforward, competent, attractive application. The release a steady stream of updates, improvements, new features. Smart.

How smart? I own just about everything Apple's publishing these days.

BTW -- I'm baaaaaaack!

Good to have you healthy and with us. :D

I notice a marked improvement in stacking and JPEG export after the update, personally.

dubbz
Dec 21, 2005, 06:52 PM
How many of the issues from ArsTechnica's review are fixed with this update? Any at all? (Thinking mostly the "bug" type of issues).

Fiveos22
Dec 21, 2005, 07:05 PM
How many of the issues from ArsTechnica's review are fixed with this update? Any at all? (Thinking mostly the "bug" type of issues).

Yeah, is this the BIG .0.1 that catches all the slight imperfections?

Fotek2001
Dec 21, 2005, 07:07 PM
Yeah, is this the BIG .0.1 that catches all the slight imperfections?

No. But I can export JPEG images with EXIF data now.

Photorun
Dec 21, 2005, 07:10 PM
It seems more, shall we say, snappy now?

Nah, kidding, seems like it did under 1.0 but still smooth enough though sadly my stock 9600 with 64 MB of RAM seems to choke a bit, damn the specs on this thing are steep!

PCMacUser
Dec 21, 2005, 07:24 PM
It's good to see Apple's new strategy for software development in action. Just as with iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, and nearly everything else, Apple's moving in stages. Release a straightforward, competent, attractive application. The release a steady stream of updates, improvements, new features. Smart.
Um, that's Microsoft's method. Well, I suppose if it worked for them, it can work for Apple too.

strydr
Dec 21, 2005, 07:44 PM
Release a straightforward, competent, attractive application. The release a steady stream of updates, improvements, new features. Smart.

Um, that's Microsoft's method. Well, I suppose if it worked for them, it can work for Apple too.

When has M$ released a "straightforward, competent, attractive application."?

PCMacUser
Dec 21, 2005, 07:51 PM
Release a straightforward, competent, attractive application. The release a steady stream of updates, improvements, new features. Smart.

When has M$ released a "straightforward, competent, attractive application."?
Microsoft Outlook
Microsoft Movie Maker
Microsoft Office 2004 Mac
Microsoft Messenger, PC and Mac
I could continue... but I think I've made my point.

kwajo.com
Dec 21, 2005, 08:18 PM
i'll try it , but if it doesn't fix any of the numerous issues it has with dealing with DNG files from various cameras, then I'll still be mighty pissed at Apple

AidenShaw
Dec 21, 2005, 09:14 PM
Great to see an update so soon. It's nice to see Apple is taking this new offering seriously and addressing issues promptly.
I wonder what people would be saying if Microsoft had released 12 MB of fixes and patches less than a month after shipping a (delayed) product?

So predictable...and so sad. I guess that software bugs are better with Koolaid.

psycho bob
Dec 21, 2005, 09:22 PM
Anybody else experiencing install bugs related to the serial number with either this or the Soundtrack Pro 1.0.2 update? After installing the updates and trying to launch the app you get an dialogue box prompting for a serial numbr but nothing you enter works. Only fix is to dump the receipt files in the library and reinstall.

There is a thread on the Soundtrack Pro section of Apple's discussion boards but nothing in the Aperture section.

This is really annoying, somebody here must have experienced it. No work around as of yet.

JDOG_
Dec 21, 2005, 09:32 PM
Yes finally!!!

Oh wait, I need $500 and a dual-processor/core mac first...:rolleyes:

How did this thread become a MS Office argument?

neutrino23
Dec 21, 2005, 10:11 PM
I see that Aperture has an option for producing a high quality book. Has anyone seen one of these? Is it different from the books available via iPhoto? Higher resolution? (iPhoto offers 300dpi) Different papers? Other formats? I have found that I can create any format I like by creating the pages in InDesign, rastering them in PhotoShop and making the book with iPhoto.

BlueRevolution
Dec 21, 2005, 11:57 PM
I'm going to venture a guess that this update doesn't do anything about Aperture's inability to fill iPhoto's shoes in terms of integration. I replaced my iPhoto library with one in Aperture, only to find that I can no longer make photo screensavers, drag into iMovie/iDVD, import directly from Mail and the many other handy little bells and whistles iPhoto has developed over the versions. sure Aperture is a Pro app, but sometimes it's nice to be able to fill both roles. hopefully we'll see this improved with future updates to Aperture or to the other apps involved.

Lacero
Dec 22, 2005, 12:02 AM
Everytime around Christmas, Apple unleashes a whole bunch of updates. It was the same thing last year.



Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

AidenShaw
Dec 22, 2005, 12:28 AM
Everytime around Christmas, Apple unleashes a whole bunch of updates. It was the same thing last year.
Does the corollary hold?

"Everytime around Thanksgiving, Apple unleashes a whole bunch of crappy products. It was the same thing last year."

bretm
Dec 22, 2005, 12:37 AM
I see that Aperture has an option for producing a high quality book. Has anyone seen one of these? Is it different from the books available via iPhoto? Higher resolution? (iPhoto offers 300dpi) Different papers? Other formats? I have found that I can create any format I like by creating the pages in InDesign, rastering them in PhotoShop and making the book with iPhoto.

Actually iPhoto is 150 dpi for the medium and large size books. The small books are 300dpi. But there is a hack out there to change it. I did, and it made a world of difference.

My guess is that everything would be 300dpi or greater and the jpeg quality would be maximum.

bretm
Dec 22, 2005, 12:39 AM
I see that Aperture has an option for producing a high quality book. Has anyone seen one of these? Is it different from the books available via iPhoto? Higher resolution? (iPhoto offers 300dpi) Different papers? Other formats? I have found that I can create any format I like by creating the pages in InDesign, rastering them in PhotoShop and making the book with iPhoto.

If you're going to go to that extreme, you could also just use yahoo, kodak, or any of the other online book makers, and have a larger variety of choices.

CTYankee
Dec 22, 2005, 12:43 AM
Still not ready for the Pro world IMO. The RAW converter is lacking some basic functions (curves!) and the quality is less than desired, even unusable in some cases (underexposure).

Some good features and nice UI. But the core of it is not there yet.

dongmin
Dec 22, 2005, 02:00 AM
Does the corollary hold?

"Everytime around Thanksgiving, Apple unleashes a whole bunch of crappy products. It was the same thing last year."Sounds like someone's got an axe to grind.

While Apple is far far from perfect, they do get things more right, more often than Microsoft.

After G
Dec 22, 2005, 03:06 AM
When has M$ released a "straightforward, competent, attractive application."?Microsoft Office for Mac ... well ... it's not straightforward or competent. But it is attractive ... oh wait, Aqua is all Apple. Forget I said anything ...
Microsoft Outlook
Microsoft Movie Maker
Microsoft Office 2004 Mac
Microsoft Messenger, PC and Mac
I could continue... but I think I've made my point.Did you really think about competence? Messenger doesn't have feature parity across OSes. Outlook (Express or otherwise) is one of the top virus propagation tools around. Movie Maker doesn't hold a candle to iMovie in terms of usability.

The Black Rock
Dec 22, 2005, 03:29 AM
The quality of Aperture's RAW conversions have little to do with the app, and almost everything to do with the OS itself. Mac OS X isn't the best at it. Adobe, Phase, and other companies that have been doing these things for years are still better than Apple at dealing with RAW conversion techniques. Perhaps some things may change with the release of 10.4.4 but maybe it won't.

PCMacUser
Dec 22, 2005, 08:09 AM
Microsoft Office for Mac ... well ... it's not straightforward or competent. But it is attractive ... oh wait, Aqua is all Apple. Forget I said anything ...
Did you really think about competence? Messenger doesn't have feature parity across OSes. Outlook (Express or otherwise) is one of the top virus propagation tools around. Movie Maker doesn't hold a candle to iMovie in terms of usability.
Feature parity doesn't really matter for something like Messenger IMHO. It's just a chat program. I live in Paris and my family lives in New Zealand, I don't need to 'wobble' their screens or whatever it is that is the latest thing in the PC version. As for Movie Maker - if my computer illiterate friend can sit down at my PC and make a 20 minute movie with soundtracks, cuts and titles, without any help from me whatsoever, then it's a success! I've never really gotten into iMovie on my iBook because it seems harder to use compared with MM2.

joeboy_45101
Dec 22, 2005, 09:47 AM
Where is the Mac OS 10.4.4 update? I don't think we will see another update for the rest of the year. Although, I am less anxious to get 10.4.4 than I was to get 10.4.3. 10.4.2 had so many bugs that I started to become a little skeptical of Apple.

electronboy
Dec 22, 2005, 11:39 AM
It's good to see Apple's new strategy for software development in action. ... Release a straightforward, competent, attractive application. The release a steady stream of updates, improvements, new features. Smart.

No it is poor design and a lack of testing. Why do we all seem to think its so great to get an 11MB patch no sooner than 1 month after the application ships? This is ridiculous! How smart is it to ship incomplete products such as 10.4 and Aperture?

No one tests software any more they just start selling the stuff knowing that even more patches are in the works. Create good software, test it, resolve the issues and then release it. Perhaps if Apple weren't so 1983 about keeping everything a secret then the applications could be beta tested by someone outside Cuppertino.

iGary
Dec 22, 2005, 11:42 AM
No it is poor design and a lack of testing. Why do we all seem to think its so great to get an 11MB patch no sooner than 1 month after the application ships? This is ridiculous! How smart is it to ship incomplete products such as 10.4 and Aperture?

No one tests software any more they just start selling the stuff knowing that even more patches are in the works. Create good software, test it, resolve the issues and then release it. Perhaps if Apple weren't so 1983 about keeping everything a secret then the applications could be beta tested by someone outside Cuppertino.

You obviously never used the original version of Final Cut. Look what it is today. Aperture will eventually give Adobe a hammering.

The Black Rock
Dec 22, 2005, 12:19 PM
Anybody else experiencing install bugs related to the serial number with either this or the Soundtrack Pro 1.0.2 update? After installing the updates and trying to launch the app you get an dialogue box prompting for a serial numbr but nothing you enter works. Only fix is to dump the receipt files in the library and reinstall.

There is a thread on the Soundtrack Pro section of Apple's discussion boards but nothing in the Aperture section.

This is really annoying, somebody here must have experienced it. No work around as of yet.

The version that I torrented is acting that way, I'm pretty sure it's Apple's attempt to curb piracy early on. This is going to force me to open the box of the legit one.

seashellz
Dec 22, 2005, 01:57 PM
Consensus is that we will see 10.4.4 within the week-or at least by 12/31.


As for Aperture-boy, some of the reviews from pro photographers, and web sites are scathing.

I wish for once APPLE would release an app when it was ready, and not send it out early, making us *unpaid* beta-testers....

The whole point of Apples limited Hardware is that they should be able to get it right the first time: THEY control the horizontal...they contr-ooops...they control both the Hardware and the software, unlike MS, which has a million different brands of machines and BIOS to have to tame-with its crappy architecture... now THAT I can understand.
Id rather have Apple do it right the FIRST time, rather than to pat them on the back with a "Wow! what a quick update/fix!-they sure are on the ball!" hmmmm.... I think not.

psycho bob
Dec 22, 2005, 02:08 PM
The version that I torrented is acting that way, I'm pretty sure it's Apple's attempt to curb piracy early on. This is going to force me to open the box of the legit one.

This is annoying because mine is a legit copy. There is no way Software Update can tell either way it should just install and run. A few people are also having issues with the recent Soundtrack Pro update which does the exact same thing.

I have no problems with the odd bug in software but to release an update that screws the app completely for some users is just adding insult to injury.

iGary
Dec 22, 2005, 02:12 PM
Consensus is that we will see 10.4.4 within the week-or at least by 12/31.


As for Aperture-boy, some of the reviews from pro photographers, and web sites are scathing.

I wish for once APPLE would release an app when it was ready, and not send it out early, making us *unpaid* beta-testers....

The whole point of Apples limited Hardware is that they should be able to get it right the first time: THEY control the horizontal...they contr-ooops...they control both the Hardware and the software, unlike MS, which has a million different brands of machines and BIOS to have to tame-with its crappy architecture... now THAT I can understand.
Id rather have Apple do it right the FIRST time, rather than to pat them on the back with a "Wow! what a quick update/fix!-they sure are on the ball!" hmmmm.... I think not.


So who's Aperture-Boy, then? :D

I'd hate to think you've come in here trolling for trouble.

gugy
Dec 22, 2005, 02:40 PM
This is annoying because mine is a legit copy. There is no way Software Update can tell either way it should just install and run. A few people are also having issues with the recent Soundtrack Pro update which does the exact same thing.

I have no problems with the odd bug in software but to release an update that screws the app completely for some users is just adding insult to injury.


I am having the same problem. I put my SN and it doesn't work. I think I'll reinstall Aperture and hold on the update until Apple fix that. Too bad. maybe version 1.02 will do it.

BlueRevolution
Dec 22, 2005, 02:46 PM
Feature parity doesn't really matter for something like Messenger IMHO. It's just a chat program. I live in Paris and my family lives in New Zealand, I don't need to 'wobble' their screens or whatever it is that is the latest thing in the PC version. As for Movie Maker - if my computer illiterate friend can sit down at my PC and make a 20 minute movie with soundtracks, cuts and titles, without any help from me whatsoever, then it's a success! I've never really gotten into iMovie on my iBook because it seems harder to use compared with MM2.

I think the lack of "winks" and "nudges" should be billed as a feature, not a lack of parity. but I will have no respect (or use) for MSN Messenger until they provide cross-platform videoconferencing with iSight support.

edit: sorry, this is getting rather off topic. I suppose I should boot Aperture and see what the updates broke this time.

CTYankee
Dec 22, 2005, 07:13 PM
The quality of Aperture's RAW conversions have little to do with the app, and almost everything to do with the OS itself. Mac OS X isn't the best at it. Adobe, Phase, and other companies that have been doing these things for years are still better than Apple at dealing with RAW conversion techniques. Perhaps some things may change with the release of 10.4.4 but maybe it won't.

Then how does Adobe do it on OSX?

All I know is I've only hear from one other photographer that likes Aperture. THe only reason he likes it is because he gets a big WOW factor from clients. Otherwise its a waste of $500. Nice eye candy, but not a pro tool

psycho bob
Dec 22, 2005, 07:39 PM
I am having the same problem. I put my SN and it doesn't work. I think I'll reinstall Aperture and hold on the update until Apple fix that. Too bad. maybe version 1.02 will do it.

Well after some fiddling I found a work around which appears to work for both Soundtrack Pro and Aperture. Before installing the update make a copy of the Unix executable file found in the (for example) Aperture/Contents/MacOS/Aperture and then run Software Update. After the update try and run the app then quit at the prompt to input serial. Substitute the old executable with the one found in the same location and restart. All should work fine. I've tested and all executes fine, worst comes to the first this will be patched in any future updates.

gralem
Dec 22, 2005, 09:11 PM
I wonder what people would be saying if Microsoft had released 12 MB of fixes and patches less than a month after shipping a (delayed) product?

So predictable...and so sad. I guess that software bugs are better with Koolaid.

People would be saying, "Wow, Microsoft actually supports their product finally!"

OK, it's getting a little deep in here... First, Aperture shipped on time--well before the end of November. Second, name a major Microsoft product that shipped on time. Third, name a major Microsoft product that was usable on version 1.0 (not simply buggy).

The koolaid sucks in Redmond.


---gralem

The Black Rock
Dec 22, 2005, 09:42 PM
This is annoying because mine is a legit copy. There is no way Software Update can tell either way it should just install and run. A few people are also having issues with the recent Soundtrack Pro update which does the exact same thing.

I have no problems with the odd bug in software but to release an update that screws the app completely for some users is just adding insult to injury.

I understand the annoyance. Apparently this isn't just a software thief's issue. On one of the pirating forums I visit, I've been directed to the official Apple Discussion Forums to view several legit users complaining of just this issue with the 1.0.1 update.

I believe that this will be solved either next week or a bit after New Year's Day.

The Black Rock
Dec 22, 2005, 09:52 PM
Then how does Adobe do it on OSX?

All I know is I've only hear from one other photographer that likes Aperture. THe only reason he likes it is because he gets a big WOW factor from clients. Otherwise its a waste of $500. Nice eye candy, but not a pro tool

I'm pretty sure that it's because neither Adobe nor Phase rely on the OS for it's conversion algorithms. The very apps that they develop include in them highly tuned, privately tried and tested algorithms.

Apple has included it's own basic RAW conversion processes, probably developed in-house. Apple is still in it's beginning stages of digital image manipulation. With the 10.4.4 update most of us are expecting an improved RAW control to be built in to the OS.

Apple will continue improving it's RAW abilities as time goes by. I'm pretty sure the idea behind what they're doing is to lay the foundation for the future. The will soon have a competitive OS wide RAW converter. 3rd parties would love to be able to take advantage of something like that.

iMeowbot
Dec 22, 2005, 10:12 PM
Then how does Adobe do it on OSX?
They provide their own converters.

Blaming Aperture problems on OS X is a cop out. It doesn't matter how Apple decide to distribute the software, it's their own software and their responsibility to get it right.

BlueRevolution
Dec 22, 2005, 11:30 PM
it broke my Aperture serial too. well it would have been interesting to see what fixes were made by the update...

gugy
Dec 23, 2005, 01:32 AM
Well after some fiddling I found a work around which appears to work for both Soundtrack Pro and Aperture. Before installing the update make a copy of the Unix executable file found in the (for example) Aperture/Contents/MacOS/Aperture and then run Software Update. After the update try and run the app then quit at the prompt to input serial. Substitute the old executable with the one found in the same location and restart. All should work fine. I've tested and all executes fine, worst comes to the first this will be patched in any future updates.

I appreciate your reply. but sorry you are speaking japanese to me. Where is this Aperture/contents/macOS/aperture? :eek:

BlueRevolution
Dec 23, 2005, 03:54 AM
I appreciate your reply. but sorry you are speaking japanese to me. Where is this Aperture/contents/macOS/aperture? :eek:

right-click on Aperture.app and go to Show Package Contents.

thanks, I'll be sure to give that a try. though I'm not entirely sure that your method doesn't essentially cause Aperture to revert back to v1.0...

TheMasin9
Dec 23, 2005, 08:56 AM
i liked it before, i hope its beter with the update, i didnt notice any problems with it myself, but i did read the ars review and they soundedl like there were some pretty substantial bugs with the software. hopefully this wipes a few of em.

wheezy
Dec 23, 2005, 12:40 PM
I appreciate your reply. but sorry you are speaking japanese to me. Where is this Aperture/contents/macOS/aperture? :eek:

That's not japanese, Japanese would look like this silly:

??????????????

I hope that displays right.....

EDIT: Nope, Japanese doesn't look like ????????, no fun!

gugy
Dec 23, 2005, 01:13 PM
right-click on Aperture.app and go to Show Package Contents.

thanks, I'll be sure to give that a try. though I'm not entirely sure that your method doesn't essentially cause Aperture to revert back to v1.0...

Thanks, Now I see it.
Did anybody had sucess doing that?
I hope Apple fix that ASAP. what a drag to reinstall the whole App. I have 10 gig of photos and take a pretty good time to import everything from iphoto into Aperture. :(

psycho bob
Dec 23, 2005, 01:57 PM
Thanks, Now I see it.
Did anybody had sucess doing that?
I hope Apple fix that ASAP. what a drag to reinstall the whole App. I have 10 gig of photos and take a pretty good time to import everything from iphoto into Aperture. :(

You don't need to reimport as I understand it as long as you don't delete the Aperture library it will automatically open with all your pics in place.

As for the question of whether my method works or not I welcome feedback, there seem to be speed improvements there and everything is reported as being version 1.0.1.

danm
Dec 23, 2005, 02:00 PM
Thanks, Now I see it.
Did anybody had sucess doing that?
I hope Apple fix that ASAP. what a drag to reinstall the whole App. I have 10 gig of photos and take a pretty good time to import everything from iphoto into Aperture. :(

Don't delete your Aperture library.pkg, it should be just fine. I have issues with replacing the unix executable 'aperture' though. It completely breaks preferences and image export prefs, and yes I trashed my com.apple.aperture.plist, any ideas beside going back to 1.0 (which is what I did)?

danm
Dec 23, 2005, 02:49 PM
You don't need to reimport as I understand it as long as you don't delete the Aperture library it will automatically open with all your pics in place.

As for the question of whether my method works or not I welcome feedback, there seem to be speed improvements there and everything is reported as being version 1.0.1.

So do you still have the prefernces pane and export prefs when you replace the executable?

psycho bob
Dec 23, 2005, 02:49 PM
Don't delete your Aperture library.pkg, it should be just fine. I have issues with replacing the unix executable 'aperture' though. It completely breaks preferences and image export prefs, and yes I trashed my com.apple.aperture.plist, any ideas beside going back to 1.0 (which is what I did)?

Looks like reverting back to version 1 is the only way out I'm afraid. I don't export except in master form so didn't notice the export issue and as I kept my preferences file had no reason to try and enter preferences in the app. Sorry guys, this one remains unfixed.

psycho bob
Dec 23, 2005, 02:52 PM
Anybody know of a way to edit Unix Executable files? Xcode won't open them in a way that makes sense, is there a utility?

psycho bob
Dec 23, 2005, 02:58 PM
One interesting thing of note if that if you use Pacifist to open the 1.0.1 .pkg the app contained within appears to be a full working version of Aperture and will even launch as such bringing up the same box to enter serial number as it does if you run it as an updater. It would seem that for some users the update procedure either destroys the previously serialised version or simply doesn't realise it is updating and puts in place a completely new version rendering version 1.0 srial numbers invalid. I don't know where the serial number and registration for Aperture is stored however on the system.

danm
Dec 23, 2005, 03:18 PM
One interesting thing of note if that if you use Pacifist to open the 1.0.1 .pkg the app contained within appears to be a full working version of Aperture and will even launch as such bringing up the same box to enter serial number as it does if you run it as an updater. It would seem that for some users the update procedure either destroys the previously serialised version or simply doesn't realise it is updating and puts in place a completely new version rendering version 1.0 srial numbers invalid. I don't know where the serial number and registration for Aperture is stored however on the system.

That is interesting. I'm guessing that whoever wrote the 'aperture' exec file that allows iBook and 12" Powerbook users to run Aperture might come up with something that works for 1.01.

The Black Rock
Dec 24, 2005, 01:48 PM
Anybody know of a way to edit Unix Executable files? Xcode won't open them in a way that makes sense, is there a utility?

Sure, I use HexEditor (www.ex-cinder.com), and HexEdit (http://www.ifd.com/hexedit). You can also try Resorcerer (http://www.mathemaesthetics.com/ResorcererIndex.html) which is payware.

The Black Rock
Dec 24, 2005, 02:04 PM
They provide their own converters.

Blaming Aperture problems on OS X is a cop out. It doesn't matter how Apple decide to distribute the software, it's their own software and their responsibility to get it right.

Perhaps blaming OS X (at least up to 10.4.3) is a copout, but then again maybe it isn't. A fair majority of the complaints that I've heard from photographers have been in regards to Aperture's poor RAW handling. Apple relies on the OS to communicate with the GPU to make these conversions. Aperture had from the beginning been advertised as an app designed from the ground up with RAW in mind; to actually receive the $500 software and discover that not only does it have speed troubles on lesser machines than the Quad, but it also is far inferior to either Adobe or Phase in it's RAW conversions, might've been a little too much.

Apple needs to take it's time with this app, think about the needs of the lesser mortals without a 4-core G5 Power Mac, and the limitations of most of the GPUs in their machines. This debacle with the s/n and 1.0.1 hasn't helped at all.

CompUSAMacNerd
Dec 25, 2005, 12:06 AM
Kinda off topic, but I've been meaning to pick up a copy of Aperture for awhile, but I've been worried about one thing.

Tech specs call for a single 1.8 or higher.

I have..

G5 1.6 Processor
2Gigs of Ram
250GB Sata HD
Radeon 9600 256MB Video Card

What do you think? Even with the minor tweak on the processor, any chance that the computer will still run the program? I have Photoshop CS2 on my computer and it runs just fine.

CTYankee
Dec 25, 2005, 12:14 AM
Kinda off topic, but I've been meaning to pick up a copy of Aperture for awhile, but I've been worried about one thing.

Tech specs call for a single 1.8 or higher.

I have..

G5 1.6 Processor
2Gigs of Ram
250GB Sata HD
Radeon 9600 256MB Video Card

What do you think? Even with the minor tweak on the processor, any chance that the computer will still run the program? I have Photoshop CS2 on my computer and it runs just fine.

I hear its more video card driven than processor. That card should be OK.

CTYankee
Dec 25, 2005, 12:16 AM
Perhaps blaming OS X (at least up to 10.4.3) is a copout, but then again maybe it isn't. A fair majority of the complaints that I've heard from photographers have been in regards to Aperture's poor RAW handling. Apple relies on the OS to communicate with the GPU to make these conversions. Aperture had from the beginning been advertised as an app designed from the ground up with RAW in mind; to actually receive the $500 software and discover that not only does it have speed troubles on lesser machines than the Quad, but it also is far inferior to either Adobe or Phase in it's RAW conversions, might've been a little too much.

Apple needs to take it's time with this app, think about the needs of the lesser mortals without a 4-core G5 Power Mac, and the limitations of most of the GPUs in their machines. This debacle with the s/n and 1.0.1 hasn't helped at all.

Photographers don't know/care what the difference is in the conversion engines. All they care about is how the photos look when converted. Adobe and company does it very well. Apple does not. End of story. For many it will take a lot of new features and improvements (even cost cutting) to get them to consider Aperture.

Bottom line is Apple shot themselve in the foot with this one.

jplx
Jan 3, 2006, 08:44 PM
Well after some fiddling I found a work around which appears to work for both Soundtrack Pro and Aperture. Before installing the update make a copy of the Unix executable file found in the (for example) Aperture/Contents/MacOS/Aperture and then run Software Update. After the update try and run the app then quit at the prompt to input serial. Substitute the old executable with the one found in the same location and restart. All should work fine. I've tested and all executes fine, worst comes to the first this will be patched in any future updates.

I tried your suggestion but I'm having the following problems with 1.0.1:
1) can't access the preferences in Aperture
2) error "The application Aperture quit unexpectedly" when quitting

Is this appenning to you?
Do you know any workaround?

Thanks,
jplx

daveye
Jan 4, 2006, 11:58 PM
jpix,

I am having the same issue as you with 1.01 prefs dont open and I get the same message on closing aperature. No workaround that i have found yet??? Anyone?

David