iLife'06 CONFIRMED!

[rOckAPE]

Scroll to the bottom and to the right under "Additional Resources". Little slip on their part?


http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/

[Lacero]

Pretty much expected iLife would get an update. Good catch, cub reporter. <--- shamelessly taken from BV


Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[SilentPanda]

Uploaded a screenie in case they fix it. The link just goes to apple.com/ilife though...

[richard_uk]

Suspicious... the Google cache version says iLife 05, so this hasn't always been there:

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:pyT36dhl5swJ:www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/+&hl=en

Also, have a look at:

http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/recording.html

It renders strangely for me (no CSS?) and then has this text, which is different to the main iLife support pages:

iLife Community Discussions

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iWeb
iPhoto
iMovie
iDVD
GarageBand
iTunes

iWeb???

Richard

[aquajet]

I can hear the Steve rumbling down the hallway already :o

[richard_uk]

I guess they're up to some kind of maintenance or preparation because

http://discussions.apple.com/

gives 'We're sorry, Apple Discussions are temporarily unavailable. The system should be back on-line soon.'.

[liketom]

iWeb how original :D

i was hoping they would buy out realmac as well


all good though

[DavidLeblond]

"We're sorry, Apple Discussions are temporarily unavailable. We're busy firing the HELL out of someone for posting mention of iWeb before its time. Oh hell! Now I did it too! Stay tuned for a link to my resume!"

Anyway, iWeb sounds a might bit interesting. Lets hope its more than some .Mac attachment.

[brepublican]

iWeb? What the duece?? :confused:

[Lacero]

God, I hope Steve Jobs doesn't demonstrate iWeb the way he did with iTools. BORING! Perchance, what could it be? Perhaps a new Apple-designed blogging tool for .Mac users?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[virus1]

strange.. normally spottings of an ilife 06 would be a mistake, but the iweb is incredibly odd.. who knows?

God, I hope Steve Jobs doesn't demonstrate iWeb the way he did with iTools. BORING! Perchance, what could it be? Perhaps a new Apple-designed blogging tool for .Mac users?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)
or maybe a subscription service.. to something like itools.. i hope they aren't trying to compete with google..

[Zaty]

I guess no one will be surprised when SJ announces iLife 06 next Tuesday. However, it's un-Apple-like to confirm an announced product like that.:)

[SpaceMagic]

Remember HomePage in the OS X Public Beta? It was a nifty WYSIWYG app which never made it into 10.0! Who knows? An Adobe-Macromedia Dreamweaver beater!?

Here's the CSS bad page for people to see:

[liketom]

Remember HomePage in the OS X Public Beta? It was a nifty WYSIWYG app which never made it into 10.0! Who knows? An Adobe-Macromedia Dreamweaver beater!?
nahhh it will be a easy app like rapidweaver -

more templates more movie options blogs and podcasts and more group site templates

arrr i love it when apple slips up on there website :cool:

[FoxyKaye]

Somewhere, down a long corridor at 1 Infinite Loop, a head is rolling...

Interesting - if true, looks like iLife '06 is poised to offer several new features instead of feature upgrades to existing apps.

[GFLPraxis]

An Apple easy website creator, perhaps? Sweet. :)

[emutree]

Weird though - I definitely would've poised it as an iWork component. And as having a lot better of a name than iWeb (seriously - maybe the dude that used to be responsible for naming stuff quit: recently we've gotten Bonjour and iWeb??). I'm excited for it nevertheless, although I feel bad for the Karelia guys - they've been working on their Sandvox app since last summer and have kept delaying it, and now that they're bringing it out at the end of January it'll come out just in time to be trampled by Apple.

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

I have an odd feeling that iWeb is a "Front Page" type application. Nothing complicated, just simple web creation. With that being said, it wouldnt suprise me if it ONLY worked with .Mac, but I thnk that would be stupid.

[SpaceMagic]

Weird though - I definitely would've poised it as an iWork component. And as having a lot better of a name than iWeb (seriously - maybe the dude that used to be responsible for naming stuff quit: recently we've gotten Bonjour and iWeb??). I'm excited for it nevertheless, although I feel bad for the Karelia guys - they've been working on their Sandvox app since last summer and have kept delaying it, and now that they're bringing it out at the end of January it'll come out just in time to be trampled by Apple.

Yeh! Names like: Final Cut Pro were great.. Final Cut Express was ok, but now the rumoured, Final Cut Extreme! Haha! Any more adjectives?

iWeb - I'm thinking a Freeway type app. One which really allows easy easy layout. Perhaps they were perfecting iWork (as its HTML output is awful) and thought.. hey! this would make a great app. So they've rolled out an iWork for Webpages rather than documents.

[katie ta achoo]

Yeh! Names like: Final Cut Pro were great.. Final Cut Express was ok, but now the rumoured, Final Cut Extreme! Haha! Any more adjectives?

Final Cut XTREEM!!1!

Oooo.. I hope iWeb is more than a .mac attachment. I don't do .mac, but I would LOVE to upgrade to iLife '06. iPhoto is getting on my last nerve... :mad:

[SiliconAddict]

They should just call it iWant.

iWeb could be anything from a webpage designer to some cool online sharing utility. Hmmm could Apple be rolling out a P2P app?!?! Naa.

[Ashapalan]

An Apple easy website creator, perhaps? Sweet. :)

i reckon too.

Imagine a simple apple app that would enable even the most illiterate webpage creators to make their own site.

Definatly a gap in ilife for that.

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

I did a google search of Apples website, I came up with this...
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Web-dev/2004/Nov/msg00130.html

Finally, some thoughts on the future:
The next big thing for the average computer user could well be putting all his "stuff" on the web, so he can share it with friends & family-- music, pictures, video, thoughts, family trees, etc. Let's call this iWeb. Apple has a good start with this with its .Mac offering. But many users will want to go beyond the canned capabilities of .Mac -- maybe even run a small home business on the web.
What is needed is a set of programs that do the basic iWeb functions. These must be written in a language that is easy to read/learn/understand/modify by non-programmers.

[katie ta achoo]

i reckon too.

Imagine a simple apple app that would enable even the most illiterate webpage creators to make their own site.

Definatly a gap in ilife for that.

Ugh.. but do we really want them to be able to create websites? :p

(I KEED, I KEED! I'm one of them.)

[p0intblank]

And the madness begins! :D

Anyway, it has to be Apple version of a Web site creator. They already tackled this somewhat with .mac, giving users the ability to show off their photos easily from within iPhoto. I look forward to the results! :)

[Some_Big_Spoon]

If this actually build web pages (like a dumbed down dreamweaver), then wouldn't it be better part of iWork? Or just part of Pages? Pages does HTML export, which, incidently, doesn't work, but I guess that's besides the point.

In any case, I hope it does CSS and is W3C compliant, and actually does WSYSIWYG (and proper HTML export ;-)

[yoak]

They should just call it iWant.

iWeb could be anything from a webpage designer to some cool online sharing utility. Hmmm could Apple be rolling out a P2P app?!?! Naa.

lol. The new name for everything Apple
;)

[Photorun]

I smell a rat here and/or it's not what people are thinking. The web pages mentioned "with iTunes 4.9 bringing podcasting..." Ummm... 4.9? That was a year and a half ago?

This page may actually be just one giant screw up and not anything at all to get worked up about... certainly not a confirmation of anything.

[Alex Cutter]

...An Adobe-Macromedia Dreamweaver beater!?
Yes, an iLife app is going to beat Dreamweaver. :rolleyes:

[cwedl]

I wouldn't be surprised if iWeb has something to do with blogging or website creation and integrated with iPhoto and iMovie and Garageband, like a hub for all media files for website creation, lets hope they give us 5-10gb idisk allowance! that would be sooo cool!!!

[GFLPraxis]

I wonder if they're going to be sued by any of these guys.
http://iweb.ca/en/index.php
http://www.virtualpromote.com/tools/
http://www.iwebtechnology.com/

[Island Dog]

A google search of "iWeb" brought up several articles about a web authoring software. Most of these articles are from several years ago, but they all said basically the same thing.

[GFLPraxis]

I wouldn't be surprised if iWeb has something to do with blogging or website creation and integrated with iPhoto and iMovie and Garageband, like a hub for all media files for website creation, lets hope they give us 5-10gb idisk allowance! that would be sooo cool!!!


Now that's a cool thought.

[katie ta achoo]

I wouldn't be surprised if iWeb has something to do with blogging or website creation and integrated with iPhoto and iMovie and Garageband, like a hub for all media files for website creation, lets hope they give us 5-10gb idisk allowance! that would be sooo cool!!!

They did just increase .Mac bandwidth to 1 tb/month...
HMMMM!!!

I smell what cwedl said. That'd be awesome if it went down.

[SilentPanda]

Ugh.. but do we really want them to be able to create websites? :p

(I KEED, I KEED! I'm one of them.)

Only if it comes with a default "Under Construction" road block image and a flaming skull image!

[SpaceMagic]

Yes, an iLife app is going to beat Dreamweaver. :rolleyes:

It was a suggestion!

I did a google search of Apples website, I came up with this...
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Web-.../msg00130.html

Quote:
Finally, some thoughts on the future:
The next big thing for the average computer user could well be putting all his "stuff" on the web, so he can share it with friends & family-- music, pictures, video, thoughts, family trees, etc. Let's call this iWeb. Apple has a good start with this with its .Mac offering. But many users will want to go beyond the canned capabilities of .Mac -- maybe even run a small home business on the web.
What is needed is a set of programs that do the basic iWeb functions. These must be written in a language that is easy to read/learn/understand/modify by non-programmers.

EXCELLENT FIND! Small business! Shopping Carts? Integration with Google Wallet/Paypal! This would be amazing!

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

If this actually build web pages (like a dumbed down dreamweaver), then wouldn't it be better part of iWork? Or just part of Pages? Pages does HTML export, which, incidently, doesn't work, but I guess that's besides the point.
In any case, I hope it does CSS and is W3C compliant, and actually does WSYSIWYG (and proper HTML export ;-)

Well, I want to propose a theory.
iLife comes standard on most Macs I believe (not sure about the PowerMac). If Apple wants to make web publishing accessable to the common man, then including it in iLife would make sense. iLife has made home movie editing nad now music editing/creation accessable to common users.
iWork is more of an upgrade over AppleWorks. Pages is more like Publisher while Keynote is more like PowerPoint. This is somethign that you would need f you were working for a buisness but isnt needed by most people. iWeb, however, is something EVERYONE could use. Hell, I've benn looking for a good cheap webpage creator since i switched to Mac. if Apple comes out with iWeb, I'll by it and stop using FrontPage at work to update my personal webpage.

[s10]

I smell a rat here and/or it's not what people are thinking. The web pages mentioned "with iTunes 4.9 bringing podcasting..." Ummm... 4.9? That was a year and a half ago?

This page may actually be just one giant screw up and not anything at all to get worked up about... certainly not a confirmation of anything.

Well, on the official Apple website it says just that iTunes 4.9..this is no fake..

It could be a .mac homepage-maker.. the online version can be slow and unpractical to use...It could also be just a internet iSync app. that does different tasks automatically..

[Island Dog]

They just fixed the page. It says iLife '05 now, and iWeb is gone.

[kretzy]

I think the title pretty obviously suggests that it'll be a basic website design program, probably with easy integration with the other iApps, Podcasts etc....

Originally Posted by Lacero
God, I hope Steve Jobs doesn't demonstrate iWeb the way he did with iTools. BORING! Perchance, what could it be? Perhaps a new Apple-designed blogging tool for .Mac users?


Do we really need yet another way for people blog? As if there isn't enough blogging going on already :rolleyes:

[arn]

Apple has fixed the page.

arn

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

They just fixed the page. It says iLife '05 now, and iWeb is gone.
Someone reads this forum. lol

[cwedl]

They just fixed the page. It says iLife '05 now, and iWeb is gone.


You beat me to it Newbie! Welldone!

[Machead III]

It's obviously going to be the any-idiots web designer, and will replace HomePage, meaning it will also be .mac only.

This doesn't excite me at all, I was only ever in the market for entry-level web designing for a few weeks, as if you actually need to create a site for anything, you advance pretty quickly.

[Island Dog]

You beat me to it Newbie! Welldone!

Just trying to help.


:)

[katie ta achoo]

iweb!

goodness gracious me my man! :eek: iwork+iweb+ipod+iluvmeat=iroast pork dudes!

i hope iweb inclues better intergration to the logic board so we can hot wire the crap out of isights so we can check out what the wind velocity is like on mars or better yet uranus.

iweb baby! hook it up stevo!
:o
:confused: :confused: wtf? I've totally lost you on that one.

[weg]

I have an odd feeling that iWeb is a "Front Page" type application. Nothing complicated, just simple web creation. With that being said, it wouldnt suprise me if it ONLY worked with .Mac, but I thnk that would be stupid.

A frontpage clone that only works with .Mac and PodCast support in Garageband... wow, I can't wait to pay 70 bucks for such great features... :eek:

[iDM]

Ahh its true its like in signs when you see the Aliens Foot for the first time.

Actually it's not but it's still cool someone noticed now I just twidle my thumbs and wonder if this is going to be the second time(after iLife '05) I am going to be coerced into paying for software(my school use to give me all Apple Software for free).

[Some_Big_Spoon]

Holy crap! I'm so glad you just did that 8 ball! I jus shot milk through my nose!

iweb!

goodness gracious me my man! :eek: iwork+iweb+ipod+iluvmeat=iroast pork dudes!

i hope iweb inclues better intergration to the logic board so we can hot wire the crap out of isights so we can check out what the wind velocity is like on mars or better yet uranus.

iweb baby! hook it up stevo!
:o

[Thataboy]

I would bet money that iWeb involves management of an online repository for media files, which could be used in conjunction with increased iDisk .mac space (a value add for .mac)

Why would it be a homepage creation tool? This would remove a "big" feature of .mac (a value subtraction for .mac).

Between .mac Homepage, rapidweaver, and freeway, there is really no need for Apple to get into the homepage creation business.

[cesar]

if this is true, I feel sorry for the karelia and realmac software guys. remember panic audion.

or maybe, the karelia guys sold out to apple... :D

[SpaceMagic]

I would bet money that iWeb involves management of an online repository for media files, which could be used in conjunction with increased iDisk .mac space (a value add for .mac)

Why would it be a homepage creation tool? This would remove a "big" feature of .mac (a value subtraction for .mac).

Between .mac Homepage, rapidweaver, and freeway, there is really no need for Apple to get into the homepage creation business.

.Mac = money. RapidWeaver = money. Freeway = lots of money. Sure iLife costs money but it's something most of us will get anyway... and its GarageBand, iMovie, iPhoto... etc aswell! Good value.

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

I would bet money that iWeb involves management of an online repository for media files, which could be used in conjunction with increased iDisk .mac space (a value add for .mac)

Good Call on that. With that being said, i think Apple would be smart to create a Webpage creator to include in iWork.

[google636]

My long time hope would be that apple comes out with a Webkit- NVU / Mozilla Composer type app. It would be flexible, allowing both rapidweaver type design, up to a CSS and HTML editor. I would love it if it used valid XHTML, but I doubt Apple would do that, because they like to work on simple ideas. Maybe it would be part of iWork. However, with the rumoured Widgetcode, they could have a could Webkit-editing framework.... It would really be stupid, in my opinion, so have people pay for .Mac. Maybe they can give it out free again!

[m-dogg]

I have an odd feeling that iWeb is a "Front Page" type application. Nothing complicated, just simple web creation. With that being said, it wouldnt suprise me if it ONLY worked with .Mac, but I thnk that would be stupid.

I thought they stopped with all the iNames...that fact makes me wonder about this a little bit...

Anyway, Front Page-type add would be great, even if it is only for .Mac (sorry, I already have .Mac)

[danielwsmithee]

"We're sorry, Apple Discussions are temporarily unavailable. We're busy firing the HELL out of someone for posting mention of iWeb before its time. Oh hell! Now I did it too! Stay tuned for a link to my resume!"

Anyway, iWeb sounds a might bit interesting. Lets hope its more than some .Mac attachment.

I personally would love it if .mac was completely done away with and replaced with iWeb in iLife. As long as it comes for the same price and does not require a new subscription every year.

Wasn't there another rumor about .mac increasing monthly bandwidth to 1TB?

[condor]

If iWeb is a web design program, of course it won't be only for .mac. Why would they sell it as part of iLife if it was? There's no way Apple would make you pay once for iLife then say, oh sorry, you have to pay another $99 to use one of the programs we included. If it was only intended for .mac, Apple would sell it through the .mac site or as a seperate stand-alone application.

Of course this is all speculation over a product that hasn't even been announced, but then that's half the fun, right?

[nagromme]

Ooops....

FrontRow could have been a logical part of iLife 06, but a consumer-oriented Web-authoring tool with Apple style and ease makes very good sense too.

Like Pages only for the Web. It could integrate really well with iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, and (hopefully NOT required!) .Mac too.

Macromedia Contribute is great for non-Web-professionals, but it's a different niche--it's for maintenance, not creation.

Look at what Apple did with iDVD to give people style AND flexibility. Amazing. They could do something great with iWeb too, if it's what it sounds like.

Does Apple NEED to do this? No. But it adds value to the iLife package, and more importantly, it adds value to NEW MACS, which come with iLife. This is something people COULD do in other, less-integrated ways, if they researched and obtained the tools on their own. Having it served up ready-to-go and pre-installed is much more useful to the average consumer. (And Apple's templates may be better than we've seen from other companies too.)

[Bear]

Ooops....

FrontRow could have been a logical part of iLife 06, but a consumer-oriented Web-authoring tool with Apple style and ease makes very good sense too.

...What if Front Row gets released as a free download or bundled with a remote kit for other Macs? And thereafter ships as part of the operating system? iTunes, DVD Player & QuickTime ship with the OS, that's enough to start with Front Row.

[atari1356]

I can hear the Steve rumbling down the hallway already :o

Either that, or it's all part of the Steve's plan to create some pre-buzz for iWeb/iLife '06.

[Steamboatwillie]

iWeb how original :D

i was hoping they would buy out realmac as well


all good though

Interestingly these guys http://iweb.ca/en/index.php have "iWeb" trade marked. :rolleyes:

[thequicksilver]

Ooops....

FrontRow could have been a logical part of iLife 06, but a consumer-oriented Web-authoring tool with Apple style and ease makes very good sense too.

Like Pages only for the Web. It could integrate really well with iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, and (hopefully NOT required!) .Mac too.

Macromedia Contribute is great for non-Web-professionals, but it's a different niche--it's for maintenance, not creation.

Look at what Apple did with iDVD to give people style AND flexibility. Amazing. They could do something great with iWeb too, if it's what it sounds like.

Does Apple NEED to do this? No. But it adds value to the iLife package, and more importantly, it adds value to NEW MACS, which come with iLife. This is something people COULD do in other, less-integrated ways, if they researched and obtained the tools on their own. Having it served up ready-to-go and pre-installed is much more useful to the average consumer. (And Apple's templates may be better than we've seen from other companies too.)

My heart thinks about iWeb being an iDVD for websites - nirvana.

My head thinks about iWeb being a Pages for websites - disaster…

[Bear]

I personally would love it if .mac was completely done away with and replaced with iWeb in iLife. As long as it comes for the same price and does not require a new subscription every year.
...I believe you mean iWeb replacing the homepage creator part of .mac?

Anyway, I could see people using iWeb to create web pages for any webserver, but if they have .mac, it works with the .mac homepage features.

This way everybody can use iWeb, and .mac subscribers get more.

[Bear]

Interestingly these guys http://iweb.ca/en/index.php have "iWeb" trade marked. :rolleyes:Trademarked in which countries?

[emutree]

My head thinks about iWeb being a Pages for websites - disaster…

Speak for yourself - some of us [me] love Pages. I'd love to see a Pages for websites much more than an iDVD for websites. iDVD makes great looking stuff, yeah, but it's impossible to easily modify any of the stuff to reflect your own creativity - you can't make your own templates. In Pages you have a lot more freedom, which I hope an iWeb would allow as well.

[jihad the movie]

I was really excited about Karelia's Sandvox being released soon... I truly hope Apple just took these guys on as part of their development staff instead of trampling all over them. It seems like as soon as some independent mac developer comes up with great software, Apple has to create their own version. Konfabulator, Audion, Watson, the list goes on. It was great when Apple took on the Cassidy and Greene guys for iTunes, and yeah the Audion people had their chance, but I feel that Apple should set an example and rather than make their own software similar to these smaller third parties, Apple should at least collaborate, hire, or do more to promote those who like to independently develop for Mac. I just feel that Apple is taking too much control instead of promoting what being a mac user really is, thinking different and producing work that is both innovative and unique.

[johnnyjibbs]

So Garageband 3 will have a one-step podcast-making feature.

And could iWeb be that killer consumer-orientated webpage-making app I have been wanting for years now?!!!! It's my first day at work next Monday but I should return home in time for Steve's annoucnements (I'm 8 hours ahead of California!) I'll have itchy trigger fingers on that Apple online store!! (Or do you think I should drop by Regent Street?)

[nagromme]

What Apple REALLY needs to release is not iWeb, but Final Web Pro Extreme Advance. (That's right, not "Advanced." Grammar is dead.)

It would be a $10,000-a-seat tool for big companies with big sites, and it would do just ONE job, but do it well: it would keep track of what pages are CURRENT on the site, vs. what pages are being worked on for the FUTURE.

This would revolutionize Apple's current method (Sharpie pen on the forearm) for keeping track of what info should go up on Apple.com and when.

[JW Pepper]

Apple has a track record of re-inventing applications made by small companies. onfabulator became Dashboard, whatwasit became Sherlock and now RapidWeaver will become iWeb.

I can't help but believe that attacking small software houses is counter productive to support for the platform, but I guess that all software compoanies are at war with each other.

[Diatribe]

if this is true, I feel sorry for the karelia and realmac software guys. remember panic audion.

or maybe, the karelia guys sold out to apple... :D

I was thinking the same thing. They'd be out of business in a second.

Audion was bought out though wasn't it?


This looks like the best MWSF ever. :D

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

Apple has a track record of re-inventing applications made by small companies. onfabulator became Dashboard, whatwasit became Sherlock and now RapidWeaver will become iWeb.

I was just looking at Sandvox, it almost looks like something that already is an iWork / iLife app. Very interesting.

[lord patton]

some of us [me] love Pages.

I don't know if I love it, but I think it's a really good program. I'm one who used to use Word, and I much prefer Pages' approach to layout. I have not used the high-end layout apps, so can't compare. Maybe Pages is crap compared to InDesign (or whatever), but it's helped me a bunch.

I haven't used it's HTML export, but the consensus seems it is between poor and useless. I wonder why? So many of Pages' layout properties are similar to CSS—fixed and floating objects, borders, margins, etc.

If Apple has had time to fix Pages 1.0 in respect to outputing web pages, then they might be wise to rebrand it and move it to the consumer apps. After all, why does Pages allow you to embed sound and movies, anyway? Has this always been their plan?

[Hawthorne]

Does Apple NEED to do this? No. But it adds value to the iLife package, and more importantly, it adds value to NEW MACS, which come with iLife.

More importantly, it adds value (LOTS of value) to .Mac, something that's not exactly been lighting up Apple's sales carts as of late.

Let's say it's an integrated vodcast/podcast/web publishing tool that integrates not only with iLife, but an improved Pages product that exports decent HTML/CSS. Now you're looking to boost sales of not one but three products.

Genius.

I left .Mac after they started charging, but this would be enough to bring me back in a flash.

[muya]

the blurb that reads "cant open movie error when adding video to garageband"?

hmmm

[nagromme]

whatwasit became Sherlock
I hope you don't mean Watson :) which of course came after Sherlock and was inspired by Sherlock, not the other way around.

There are two extremes Apple could take: wipe out every small software company (luckily they don't) on the one hand, or on the other hand, refuse to add ANY value to Macs if there is any small company already offering it. That extreme would be very bad too.

So Apple's in the middle--sometimes they add value to Macs by adding features that you COULD get on your own with shareware. But now you don't have to, and it can be more integrated with other apps. Those are good things. Unfortunately the shareware developer then can only sell to users who do NOT own the Apple product. Their market shrinks. Sad, but there's no avoiding it. Apple does not do this to compete with small one-person companies. They do this to compete with Microsoft.

And when several companies all solve the same problem, it's not necessarily "copying." The problems/needs exist, and so companies step up to meet them.

[Diatribe]

the blurb that reads "cant open movie error when adding video to garageband"?

hmmm

Nice catch. Produce your own music videos, your own web pages and have a media center. All in iLife... pretty sweet and almost too good to be true.

[cubist]

Uh, am I the only person in the world who remembers Claris Homepage? I probably still have the CD around here somewhere. Certainly, with a facelift, it could be iWeb.

[jaxzin]

Looks like Google grabbed a copy before Apple fixed it: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:pyT36dhl5swJ:www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/+iweb+apple&hl=en

[bdkennedy1]

I don't think this is a slip up. This happens EVERY year around this time.

[Piarco]

I hope to smeg its a web authoring program - anything that allows me to ditch FrontPage is great - but if its made with Apple intuitiveness I'm in!! I want a basic web program (hence FrontPage) and as I already use iPhoto to export my pics as a webpage it'll be brilliant to have a suite of programs that work well together...

Oh, and no more having to use VPC :)

[peharri]

iWeb - an HTML editor. Wow. I hear this "World Wide Web" thingie is really taking off, they reckon that by the end of the 1990s, almost everyone will have their own website.

More seriously, I'm having trouble with the idea. I tried to think of scenarios where it might work:

- What iDVD is to DVD authoring for the WWW, eg choose from prepicked themes, styles, and clip-art, and add your own text. Nice. Except those aren't the kinds of websites people seem to want to make.
- Blogging tools - yeah, but the name iWeb suggests something a little more generic than that.
- Website management tools - well, yeah, I guess, but it'd have to be tied to something like .Mac as anything less trivial than a bunch of HTML pages that refer to one another is generally "managed" by a variety of different means.

If I had to put money on it, the first seems likely, given the package name, maybe with a bit of the last mixed in (eg mirror your .Mac homepage, make edits, automatically update) but I can't figure out why this wouldn't be a part of .Mac rather than iLife.

I have a feeling the "Web" part is being misinterpreted, and they may mean a more general definition of Web rather than the World-Wide variety.

[Super Dave]

It's obviously going to be the any-idiots web designer, and will replace HomePage, meaning it will also be .mac only.

This doesn't excite me at all, I was only ever in the market for entry-level web designing for a few weeks, as if you actually need to create a site for anything, you advance pretty quickly.

If it were .Mac only then it wouldn't really be an iLife product would it? They can't bundle an app and charge $99/year to use it.

David :cool:

[alfismoney]

I sense an in house, apple version of the Rails engine here. A very simple, elegant, AJAX enabled, .mac only (it would need to run on Apple's servers if it were to be web based, the setup/support is WAY too complicated otherwise) website creator for people to publish their movies, photos, music, and everyting else online. It would probably offer very similar functionality to iDVD, with some nice templates and moderate customization that confines itself to the consumer, home user market.

Apple has a good chance to get in on this market as Microsoft and Google are currently focusing on feature wars rather than integration and user-experience. Of course some punk kid from MIT will proceed to reverse engineer Apple's product and start distributing a better version for free through Google who will promply buy him out for $57 million, but who's counting?

[Bregalad]

Apple already has an application that should be their website development tool: Pages. It only needs a few small additions and fixes to become what its name has always suggested, a tool for producing pages, both printed and electronic.

[whooleytoo]

It would be a $10,000-a-seat tool for big companies with big sites, and it would do just ONE job, but do it well: it would keep track of what pages are CURRENT on the site, vs. what pages are being worked on for the FUTURE.

This would revolutionize Apple's current method (Sharpie pen on the forearm) for keeping track of what info should go up on Apple.com and when.

:D :D Very good!

Yeah, I've no doubt many of these leaks are deliberate, either to test the water using us lemmings as guinea pigs (mixed metaphors?) or to drum up hype.

[crudsponge]

I found this article from macosxrumors.com, 2002 archive.... interesting.

June the 5th 2002
iWeb: new hope for an Apple branded web browser?
Today, a french site (macosxtech.com) posted a really surprising article that talks about "iWeb", which could be an Apple branded web browser currently in development for Jaguar!?

I'm quite confused at the moment because, as I said in the last article posted on June the 1rst, all my sources tell me they had never heard about any project like this. So what does this mean? Was this a well kept secret by Apple, until today? Is Apple messing aroung with rumor sites again ? Before giving my opinion on this, I'm going to check one more time with my sources to see if they can comfirm the iWeb rumor, though this can take
some time.

Anyway, a new version of Internet Explorer is still expected to be released soon. It should be loaded with a lot of new features, big improvements on performance and better compatibility. The question now is: which browser will we use as standard one in Jaguar?

I'll post more info about iWeb soon if sources verify that this rumor is true. The more sources I have, the more certain I can be that my postings are valid, so if you have anything you would like to share with me, and macosXrumors.com visitors, please drop me a mail here.


http://www.macosxrumors.com/archives/2002-06.php

[woolfgang]

Well, on the official Apple website it says just that iTunes 4.9..this is no fake..

It could be a .mac homepage-maker.. the online version can be slow and unpractical to use...It could also be just a internet iSync app. that does different tasks automatically..

It would be great if it were a stand alone application from .mac, but if they combine it with .mac, then people have to pay twice.

[atari1356]

Apple already has an application that should be their website development tool: Pages. It only needs a few small additions and fixes to become what its name has always suggested, a tool for producing pages, both printed and electronic.

Creating web pages and creating print documents are two VERY different things...

Perhaps they could use some of the tools/interface elements from Pages in a web design app - but trying to make Pages do both tasks doesn't seem like a good idea.

Have you seen the HTML code that MS Word produces? Icky icky :(

[applemax]

I bet Apple are laughing their heads off at the moment that we've all fallen for this stuff. (This is probably just to lure us off)

[bowzer]

iLife '06 with new iBooks on Tuesday?
Yes I think so. :)

[TMA]

I bet Apple are laughing their heads off at the moment that we've all fallen for this stuff. (This is probably just to lure us off)

That's not really Apple's style. There have been several leaks on their web site before which have usually (always?) turned out to be true.

[kenaustus]

If it's a slip up there is someone slowly walking to the unemployment office in California - still trying to figure out what happened. It might also be a little rocket fired by Apple to take away a bit from Gates speech at CES.

I tend to think it's the latter, especially since Front Row is missing.

[atari1356]

I hope you don't mean Watson :) which of course came after Sherlock and was inspired by Sherlock, not the other way around.

I think you have that backwards... Watson was made by a 3rd party developer and was out probably a year or two before Apple released Sherlock.

[applemax]

Well i've updated the wikipedia page for ilife now. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/iLife

[applemax]

That's not really Apple's style. There have been several leaks on their web site before which have usually (always?) turned out to be true. Sorry for being a bit dim, but I didn't actually know that. What other products were leaked like that? Seriously, I'm not joking! I thought this was a first!

[B. Hunter]

SpaceMagic said:
"iWeb - I'm thinking a Freeway type app. One which really allows easy easy layout. Perhaps they were perfecting iWork (as its HTML output is awful) and thought.. hey! this would make a great app. So they've rolled out an iWork for Webpages rather than documents."

Interesting thought. But I just don't see Apple abandoning iWork like that. Pages has kind of taken a back seat to everything else that has been going on. I expect them to make substantial improvements in the next version, including improved HTML support.

B. Hunter
12" Powerbook DVI

[FoxyKaye]

iWeb - an HTML editor. Wow. I hear this "World Wide Web" thingie is really taking off, they reckon that by the end of the 1990s, almost everyone will have their own website...
I have a feeling the "Web" part is being misinterpreted, and they may mean a more general definition of Web rather than the World-Wide variety.
I tend to agree with you - HTML authoring tools are a crowded market already. If Apple were to go in this direction, it would have to come up with something really different and/or simple for folks to use. Also, the number of folks wanting to create their own Web site seems like a smaller market than an application called "iWeb" with a broader purpose.

That being said, I suppose we'll find out Tuesday for sure.

Also, to the person above running FrontPage on VPC: why? Is your site using FrontPage extensions (bad idea)? DreamWeaver (my favorite) and GoLive (which IMHO creates garbage code, but still works) are both available and better to use on Macs. OK, they do cost money, but IIRC, there's got to be at lease one shareware/freeware app for the Mac that will get you off of FrontPage.

[johnnyjibbs]

I think iWeb can be an application that creates web pages for beginners that ties in with all the iLife stuff. It won't directly replace .Mac's HomePage application, but it could be used instead of, if the user wants to. I don't see the problem with the .Mac connection. If a program allows the consumer to create web pages as part of iLife, they could put it on the web using Yahoo geocities if they wanted to or any other free (or non-free) provider. And you bet it would easily integrate with .Mac also (and lure people into that too). But in this scenario there wouble be no need for iLife to get the most out of .Mac. And there would be no need to get .Mac to get the most out of iLife. Therefore I don't see why there is any conflict.

Of course, iWeb could actually be something different entirely - maybe it refers to this whole video subscription thing... but I still think it's a web-making app. Lets face it: .Mac's HomePage sucks big time.

[Marx55]

It was great when Apple took on the Cassidy and Greene guys for iTunes.

Not really. SoundJam had features iTunes does not have (eg., resume playing on a long playlist sorted by names).

[Doctor Q]

If we are going to see a demo of iWeb next Tuesday, let's hope Steve doesn't overdemonstrate it as he did for that weather widget, where he couldn't resist showing us every single cool graphic it had to offer.

If iWeb is a a web design application, I don't want to see every last template it offers. Pretty please. I'll know if I want it or not from a quick demo of the main features.

[applemax]

Or, and I hope this is true, this may be a new name for .Mac, and it comes with iLife. Seeing as most people buy iLife every year, it is like a subscription. I've started up an iChat chat called macrumors

lets have a live chat!

[nutmac]

I don't think iWeb is a web site publisher like Microsoft's FrontPage and Adobe's DreamWeaver. I could be wrong, of course, but the functionality should be included with iWork (perhaps integrated into Pages). I think iWeb will be geared toward publishing works from GarageBand, iMovie, and iPhoto (and possibly Keynotes and Pages) on websites.

[Yvan256]

God, I hope Steve Jobs doesn't demonstrate iWeb the way he did with iTools. BORING! Perchance, what could it be? Perhaps a new Apple-designed blogging tool for .Mac users?

I can't see something from iLife being tied to a .Mac account... Unless iLife now includes a one-year .Mac account too without making iLife more expensive.

We're starting to have too many monthly fees if you ask me.

[FoxyKaye]

If we are going to see a demo of iWeb next Tuesday, let's hope Steve doesn't overdemonstrate it as he did for that weather widget, where he couldn't resist showing us every single cool graphic it had to offer.
Well, Steve has done a lot of LSD, which gives you greater leeway to obsess on really small details and find them fascinating, awe-inspiring and universally revealing. But, yes, that was a number of minutes in my life I want back.:D

[Yvan256]

Ugh.. but do we really want them to be able to create websites? :p

As long as the output is standards-compliant, I don't mind. :cool:

[applemax]

So it's iPhoto 6, iMovie 6, iDVD 6, iWeb, iTunes 6 and GarageBand 3. I can imagine it now. "GarageBand 3, and yes it does video!" :p

[javiercr]

iWeb is not very original, other 'i' apps have more original names

iTunes not iMusic
iLife no iApps
iWork not iOffice
iPod not iPortable

iWeb is too obvious

[CANEHDN]

Who's to say this was even a slip up. Steve may have had this done on purpose. He could be just sitting there watching all the rumor sites go nuts over this.

[spine]

Any thoughts as to what iPhoto 6 may include???

[FreeState]

If you go here:

http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/recording.html

Look at the source code and it says:

meta name="Generator" content="Cocoa HTML Writer"
meta name="CocoaVersion" content="824.23"

This is not on any other apple.com page I can find... and I have never heard of a Cocoa HTML Writer....

EDIT: a search on Google for Cocoa HTML Writer brings up nothing in that word order (7 pages but none of them have the words together...)

[iGary]

I'm putting my vote down that this means absolutely squat, aside from iLife 06, which is a given.

[applemax]

iWeb should be called iLinks or something not so obvious.

[boombashi]

Well, Steve has done a lot of LSD, which gives you greater leeway to obsess on really small details and find them fascinating, awe-inspiring and universally revealing. But, yes, that was a number of minutes in my life I want back.:D


LOL - I'm suprized he didn't trademark iTrip before Griffin.

[spine]

Who's to say this was even a slip up. Steve may have had this done on purpose. He could be just sitting there watching all the rumor sites go nuts over this.

According to Mike Evangelist's article - Jobs doesn't have any free time in the weeks leading up to the keynote. Perhaps a disgruntled employee? Are there such things as disgruntled Apple employees?

[crudsponge]

here's food for thought..... iTunes has more then just Music (or tunes) Video, Podcasts, TV, etc.

Is it just me, or does iTunes seem like a improper name now?

[MhzDoesMatter]

I think you have that backwards... Watson was made by a 3rd party developer and was out probably a year or two before Apple released Sherlock.

No, think about it. Who would name a product "Watson" as opposed to Sherlock if it came out first. Sherlock was originally a search app that used multiple search engines and other resources and was extendable through new plugins. Watson was created by a third party developer to be a compliment and sidekick to Sherlock. It mainly focused on more personal, non-research tasks like telephone searching, movie tickets, flights and telephone numbers, etc. Apple then seemingly reinvented Sherlock in a manner that resembled Watson as much visually as functionally, saying it was always the intended purpose of Sherlock to be the end-all of every web searching task.

[richdun]

here's food for thought..... iTunes has more then just Music (or tunes) Video, Podcasts, TV, etc.

Is it just me, or does iTunes seem like a improper name now?

It does seem like it needs a name that's more inclusive of the new all-encompassing media functionality, but I think iOmega is sorta already taken.

[smqt]

I don't think anyone will be getting fired, lots of Mac Fans will get fired up is all.
Bits of info show up "accidentally" on Apple's site every time an anouncement will be made; these "teasers" seem to have become part of their marketing...
:p

[crudsponge]

If apple plans on REALLY pushing Podcasting with GarageBand... I think NOW would be a time to release Asteroid.

Now is perfect timing. Let's face it, anyone here try to record with a bulit in mic jack... it sucks. The quality really isn't that good for recording.

So, let's say apple pushes Pod Recording... allot of people have better mics
(with XLR) or would like higher quality recording, instead of a 1/8 Jack.

Food for thought.

Asteroid
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/11/20041123012226.shtml

[rock711]

Maybe this wouldn't be so hard to believe if they made .mac free again. They certainly can afford it now, and it would make the idea of rumored .mac movie/media streaming more feasible. Maybe a free .mac express account with stripped down features and a lower bandwidth (no Backup, etc.). They have .mac so integrated into Tiger that it would make sense to let everyone at least try out those syncing features for free and be able to use iWebs' site creation and blogging tools with it. Then they could get rid of the flimsy web-based homepage and iPhoto upload .mac stuff. Just a guess.

[Belly-laughs]

iWeb is coming, but this slip-up is designed to make us look the other way or create a bit of buzz about Apple while their competitors get all the attention at CES.

[PBUser167]

This old mailing lists post suggest to Apple what was missing from it's current offering. The author suggested the title "iWeb". Maybe Apple took the request seriously.

http://lists.apple.com/archives/Web-dev/2004/Nov/msg00130.html

PBUser167

[johnpaul191]

iPhoto can publish to .Mac with a few clicks, or generate all the code and put it, for example, in a folder on the desktop.

*if* Apple was going to make a web authoring app i would assume it would pull output from different iApps.... like iPhoto, i movie, garage band? remember for 10.2 .Mac people got a free download of iBlog. maybe a lot of .Mac people want something like that back? it would be easy to take current Apple apps and gather output for a web page and dump it in a "sites" directory, or build in a FTP app..... or the even easier .Mac publishing if you subscribe.

wasn't there supposed to be a lot of .Mac upgrades in the 10.4 era? and by that i meant features or enhanced options in iApps and not just more storage or free downloads. i would not be surprised if the iWhatever just worked easier with .Mac.

it's pretty reasonable to expect iLife06 in a week or soon after. there has to be some additions or improvements to make people want to upgrade.

[g3jedi]

I've noticed in other forums on the web that many .Mac users are not happy with the lack of updates to features. Apple seems to have been ignoring the service for awhile now. We are probably going to see a big revamp of .Mac next Tuesday. iWeb would indicate that this is true as well as the apparent ability to add video to the next version of Garageband. I'm thinking that iWeb will include tools for Podcasting and .Mac will be updated with more storage to handle all of the people who will rush out to buy the new software.

[cbigfoot1987]

Where they are thinking about the possibility if keeping all music and Video on the web Hence iWeb

[MarcelV]

I can't see something from iLife being tied to a .Mac account...

Uhh, at least iPhoto has ties into .mac. And I believe, just out of my head (because I am at work), iMovies does too. So, why wouldn't it be.
Building a homepage thru .mac is not really flexible. A more flexible tool that publishes your blog, iPhoto lib and iMovie folder onto .mac would be great for a bunch of us. And if we even can put our podcast on there, with a tie into iTMS so others can easily link to it (remeber the 1TB download capacity that leaked earlier this week?) that would be great for a lot of people. And I am sure not everyone that bought iLife05 uses Garageband either. Same for iWeb.

[TMA]

Sorry for being a bit dim, but I didn't actually know that. What other products were leaked like that? Seriously, I'm not joking! I thought this was a first!

Well they leaked the specs for the first PowerMac G5 for one. You might enjoy some of the other leaks that have occurred over the years: http://guides.macrumors.com/Gallery_of_Apple_Leaks_and_Prototypes

[Stella]

Well they leaked the specs for the first PowerMac G5 for one. You might enjoy some of the other leaks that have occurred over the years: http://guides.macrumors.com/Gallery_of_Apple_Leaks_and_Prototypes

I suspect that was more of a f?c?up than a leak.

[Lepton]

Wouldn't it be cool if Pages export to HTML worked better? Wouldn't it be cooler if Apple, the home of WYSIWYG made Pages export to HTML perfectly? And import prefectly, exactly, WYSIWYG (in Safari at least), orthogonally? And if it coulf FTP that to sync between your working copy and the copy on a .mac website?

[SiliconAddict]

I can't take it anymore... *has a mental meltdown waiting for MWSF*. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/images/smiles/new_Eyecrazy.gif

[dejo]

And import prefectly, exactly, WYSIWYG (in Safari at least), orthogonally?

Orthogonally? :confused:

[Disturbed]

Ever think that iWeb is a new name for .Mac? Perhaps they are opening up the platform for Windows users in another attempt to woo them to the Mac platform.

Just a thought...

[manu chao]

I suspect that was more of a f?c?up than a leak.

In this context, by definition, every f?c?up is a leak. Not every leak, however, is a f?c?p.

[jihad the movie]

Not really. SoundJam had features iTunes does not have (eg., resume playing on a long playlist sorted by names).


This is true, but Apple hired all three programmers for iTunes, which is what I was getting at.

Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundJam_MP)

[Lepton]

If you go here:

http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/recording.html

Look at the source code and it says:

meta name="Generator" content="Cocoa HTML Writer"
meta name="CocoaVersion" content="824.23"

This is not on any other apple.com page I can find... and I have never heard of a Cocoa HTML Writer....
That's a good one. You know, the WebKit in OSX lets you edit the pages as well as render them, what we need is a nice app that takes advantage of this, and that might be what we are seeing.

[TMA]

I suspect that was more of a f?c?up than a leak.

Doesn't matter if it was intentional or not - It's still a leak. It's still exactly the same kind of mistake Apple have made today.

If you go here:

http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/recording.html

Look at the source code and it says:

meta name="Generator" content="Cocoa HTML Writer"
meta name="CocoaVersion" content="824.23"

This is not on any other apple.com page I can find... and I have never heard of a Cocoa HTML Writer....

EDIT: a search on Google for Cocoa HTML Writer brings up nothing in that word order (7 pages but none of them have the words together...)



If you open a document in Text Edit, choose save as and export to HTML format the source code contains:

meta name="Generator" content="Cocoa HTML Writer"
meta name="CocoaVersion" content="824.23"

I got that tip from a quick search in google, and I can see plenty of other pages containing Cocoa HTML Writer.

[Lepton]

Orthogonally? :confused:Hey, I was on a roll!:D

[autrefois]

Why would it say iTunes 4.9? Is it possible Apple's server was hacked and some idiot (either internal or external to Apple) put this up as some kind of joke?

I guess another possibility is that iWeb was planned for release earlier (back when iTunes 4.9 was still current), shelved (along with this web page), and they were in the process of updating the old page for the imminent release of iWeb. Would that make sense?

In any case, I agree with a couple others that iWeb is uninspired as a name, but it will (assuming it is actually coming) be easier to remember. I'm interested to see what it will be exactly.

Since Apple's apparently still in i-app mode, I'd like to propose a simple new application called "ii". ii automatically creates names for new i-apps. Type in a description and ii will come up with no fewer than 10 propositions, with rankings in terms of memorability, appropriateness, coolness factor, etc.

Type in wysiwyg editor, html, webpage, internet and ii will give you results like these:

iWeb
iPage
iHTML
iWYSIWYG
iNet
iWWW

etc.

[dejo]

Hey, I was on a roll!:D

Alright. I'll let it slide... this time. ;)

[cycocelica]

Could iWeb be Apple's answer to RapidWeaver?

iLife '06 was expected though

[puckhead193]

i hope this iweb thing is way to make more advance versions of web pages through .mac. Like placing a text box here..... and making it more personal with fonts and colors.....

[dernhelm]

I'm that iWeb is something more 'dynamic' capable than Pages. Most AJAX tools have a long way to go before being really usable. An Apple written AJAX front-end would really kick! But I'm sure this is all just wishful thinking.

[joemama]

Ugh.. but do we really want them to be able to create websites? :p

(I KEED, I KEED! I'm one of them.)


I've said it for years while my students used AppleWorks. There needs to be an EASY way for kids to learn HTML - and I am not talkign about saving out as HTML. Even something like an advanced FrontPage.

Schools would EAT THIS UP!!!!!!

[GregA2]

i hope iweb inclues better intergration to the logic board so we can hot wire the crap out of isights so we can check out what the wind velocity is like on mars or better yet uranus.

I'm not sure about that one... The wind from Uranus smells really bad. :eek: ;)

[Fukui]

I'm that iWeb is something more 'dynamic' capable than Pages. Most AJAX tools have a long way to go before being really usable. An Apple written AJAX front-end would really kick!
WebObjects 6 Pleeeeeeze Pleeeeeeeeeze!:confused: :confused: :confused:

[MattQiu]

Appleinsider just posted this news :rolleyes:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1440

[TMA]

Appleinsider just posted this news :rolleyes:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1440

Appleinsider or Macrumors? :o

[aswitcher]

I can't take it anymore... *has a mental meltdown waiting for MWSF*. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/images/smiles/new_Eyecrazy.gif


Yeah, its getting a bit that way...

[Laser47]

iWeb? Maybe apples version of frontpage? But then wouldint it be coupled with iwork? Maybe iWeb is apples now ISP?
Man, I cant wait until MWSF

Everyone get your countdown widgets ready!

[peharri]

Appleinsider just posted this news :rolleyes:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1440

Well, assuming the WebPages thing they describe is from good sources, I guess that pretty much confirms we're looking at a web page builder based upon/inspired by/etc Pages.

That's interesting. Ok, until I see it I'll hold off on the jokes about the 1990s... ;-) A good webside editor/manager might be a useful thing, assuming it doesn't generate HTML that looks like crap and renders with less grace than Slashdot.

[DakotaGuy]

I hope iLife '06 will be good because I would not doubt it will be the last version to run on PPC processors. Apple will force us to upgrade hardware by quickly cancelling PPC versions of both iLife and MacOSX. I would not doubt that by 10.6 MacOSX will be Intel only. They will just say...well we needed more power to make it run.

[PBUser167]

Why would it say iTunes 4.9? Is it possible Apple's server was hacked and some idiot (either internal or external to Apple) put this up as some kind of joke?

It still says 4.9 on their production server. Don't forget how quickly iTunes went from 5 to 6.

http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/

PBUser167

[MacsRgr8]

Best time of the year....

The final week before a MWSF, or WWDC.

Especially if some of these "leaks", "f-ups", "typos" etc. start circling around!

The HUGE G5 spec-leak on the G4 page is my all-time favourite. What discussions that generated!
MacRumors.com must have gained many, many more members then!

:cool:

(I love this place)

[soosy]

Anyone remember that 10.4 betas showed a feature (in Network Sys Prefs, I believe) to map your machine to a username.mac.com style domain name? So you could run a web server on your machine and expose it through .mac.

The Appleinsider article mentions something similar.

[autrefois]

It still says 4.9 on their production server. Don't forget how quickly iTunes went from 5 to 6.

http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/

PBUser167

Thank you, I see you're right. There go all my theories... :o It is surprising though since Apple seems to be pretty good at keeping their site updated. Hopefully they'll (finally) update the iTunes version number on this page once iLife '06 is released! :D

So to me it seems more likely then that this iWeb thing is coming. iLife '06 was pretty much expected, but it doesn't sound like people knew about iWeb apart from old rumblings here and there.

[Stella]

Apple insider are reporting about .Mac upgrades - i.e., mysql, php and a drop in price - to combat web hosting companies.

Sorry if some one has said this before.

[bigandy]

they do this just to taunt is, i rekon. they put something like this up and wait, refreshing the macrumors homepage feverently until the first mention occurs, then pulls the page again, just to keep everyone psyched about the keynote, AS IF WE WEREN'T ALREADY!

:rolleyes:

[Diatribe]

Apple insider are reporting about .Mac upgrades - i.e., mysql, php and a drop in price - to combat web hosting companies.

Sorry if some one has said this before.

No it hasn't, thanks for the hint.


Edit: Wow if that is true... $69 and PHP and SQL... they gain a huge amount of new subscriptions if this is true.

[markiv810]

An Apple easy website creator, perhaps? Sweet. :)


My thoughts exactly, easy website creator would be a step in the right direction.

[iGary]

MWSF:

Steve comes out, the word "Transitions" come up on the screen, he tells everyone that he has been keynoting on a G6 PowerPC all morning, then, he leaves.

[maya]

Finally, my dream has been answered. Now I have to wait till MWSF to make sure it is indeed true. :)

iWeb = Web page creator. ;)

[SilvorX]

I remember Claris Homepage, it was very similar to Frontpage Express, I was forced to use it for a year.. :(

[amateurmacfreak]

"We're sorry, Apple Discussions are temporarily unavailable. We're busy firing the HELL out of someone for posting mention of iWeb before its time. Oh hell! Now I did it too! Stay tuned for a link to my resume!"

Anyway, iWeb sounds a might bit interesting. Lets hope its more than some .Mac attachment.
XDDDDDDDD This is the best slip-up I've ever seen....well, I haven't seen many!!:rolleyes:

[DavidLeblond]

MWSF:

Steve comes out, the word "Transitions" come up on the screen, he tells everyone that he has been keynoting on a G6 PowerPC all morning, then, he leaves.

Actually I'm guessing the word "iPod" will come up and he'll say that he's been wearing an iPod inviso on his head all day. Then he'll show us what the video looks like on the big screen and talk about how awesome the resolution is. Then "one more thing: that iNviso also runs OS X Leopard running on a Pentium 5 and is available in the stores right now."

End of show.

EDIT: I'd buy one.

[amateurmacfreak]

or maybe a subscription service.. to something like itools.. i hope they aren't trying to compete with google..
ick. competition with Google would stink. I like Google.:( ;) :rolleyes: :cool:

[EGT]

Everyone get your countdown widgets ready!

!!!!

[DavidLeblond]

ick. competition with Google would stink. I like Google.:( ;) :rolleyes: :cool:

Yeah tell me about it. Apple: "We're competing with Google." Google: "Oh that Google Earth for the Mac we were working on? Yeah, sorry we lost that. Oh and google.com is no longer compatible with Safari... yeah sorry about that."

[amateurmacfreak]

An Apple easy website creator, perhaps? Sweet. :)
That would be sweet. How much? Come w/ iLife?

[amateurmacfreak]

Yeah tell me about it. Apple: "We're competing with Google." Google: "Oh that Google Earth for the Mac we were working on? Yeah, sorry we lost that. Oh and google.com is no longer compatible with Safari... yeah sorry about that."
Hahaha, Yeah. Google is my life. Well, not quite. :o :) But if that amazingly unlikely scenario happened at any point in the future (assuming, of course, Firefox, my main browser of choice, was not still working for Google on Mac) I might just have to get a new PC for Google. :D Nah.:cool:

[Peace]

Dont know if it's been said since I went to the last "page" but iWeb will be part of iLife and interweaved with the new .Mac..

[Porchland]

I guess no one will be surprised when SJ announces iLife 06 next Tuesday. However, it's un-Apple-like to confirm an announced product like that.:)

If it was anyone BUT Apple I would say it was a planned leak. Then again, this did happen when Garage Band came out, according to Apple Insider.

At any rate, it's good publicity for something that's not really much of a surprise.

[ColoJohnBoy]

If you couple this with the 1 TB of badnwidth on .Mac accounts, I would think it's another way of distributing your content - upload all your home movies, slideshows, iTunes playlists, etc. to .Mac and all your friends and family can access them. Or store videos and television shows purchased from iTMS online and stream them to any authorized computer... just a thought.

[Porchland]

Uhh, at least iPhoto has ties into .mac. And I believe, just out of my head (because I am at work), iMovies does too. So, why wouldn't it be.
Building a homepage thru .mac is not really flexible. A more flexible tool that publishes your blog, iPhoto lib and iMovie folder onto .mac would be great for a bunch of us. And if we even can put our podcast on there, with a tie into iTMS so others can easily link to it (remeber the 1TB download capacity that leaked earlier this week?) that would be great for a lot of people. And I am sure not everyone that bought iLife05 uses Garageband either. Same for iWeb.

Plus, if .mac is going to integrate purchase of domain names, I would be more likely to use it to brand my own web site than have a .mac/whatever domain. Basically, it would be true web hosting but better because it's got iLife under the hood.

[jmark]

Was anyone else suprised/amused to see a screenshot from a Windows machine here?

[chubad]

Yes it is the time honored tradition of figuring out everything that will be in next Tuesdays Keynote, It's just starting to reach a boil. By the end of the weekend it will be at a fever pitch.

By Monday night insanity will rule. On Tuesday, nothing could ever live up to the hysterical predictions and the bitching will begin. Thus starting the eternal Macworld cycle anew.

:D

[amateurmacfreak]

iWeb? Maybe apples version of frontpage? But then wouldint it be coupled with iwork? Maybe iWeb is apples now ISP?
Man, I cant wait until MWSF

Everyone get your countdown widgets ready!
Oh, I have a countdown widget but not that one... and I want both. :D What's the url to download that please? Or the name of the widgets?
I'm not having to good of luck finding it myself.:o:(

Was anyone else suprised/amused to see a screenshot from a Windows machine here?
Lol. Just noticed that. XD

[BlizzardBomb]

Hmm... The funny thing is, when you consider that the "i" in the original iMac stood for Internet, iWeb = InternetWeb :D :p

[strack]

Was anyone else suprised/amused to see a screenshot from a Windows machine here?

That and the fact that you can't see the URL. Of all things web pages would be the easiest to fake and really get those macheads buzzing.:rolleyes: I don't know, just something that crossed my mind.

[Gasu E.]

iWeb! Yes! YES!!!!!!! It's just the thing I've been waiting for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[tmornini]

I'm excited for it nevertheless, although I feel bad for the Karelia guys - they've been working on their Sandvox app since last summer

OH...MY...GOD!

I didn't share many people's sympathy the first time around with Watson, as I considered it a random lightning strike, and life is full of examples of bad things that (randomly) happen to good people.

But...if it happens again...either:

1) Apple hates these guys
2) I don't want to live next door to these guys (bad luck!)

and in either case (which we'll probably never know which is true), my sympathy will follow.

Can you imagine, from their perspective, having stuck around after the bitterness of the Watson affair, to have it happen again?

RAGE!

edit: These are the Watson (not Konfabulator) guys.

[xsnightclub]

If iWeb is true web hosting, that would ge breat.

If it is some .mac add on , it is pretty lame.

[amateurmacfreak]

If iWeb is true web hosting, that would ge breat.

If it is some .mac add on , it is pretty lame.
Yeah... um, hahaha. I'm dumb. :( Umm... is there a program like Apache for Mac? Or can Apache be for Mac? Wow. I'm so stupid. I'll go sit blushing in my little loser corner.:( But seriously, can someone answer my question please? :o

[Phat_Pat]

maybe apple is teaming up with Sony and promoting the new Spiderman

[mdavey]

or maybe a subscription service.. to something like itools.. i hope they aren't trying to compete with google..

maybe they will outsource .mac to Google and are working with Google on a media device & service based on a fusion of the Mac mini, .mac and various Google services such as Gmail, Picasa, Talk and Blogger. Apple for the client side, Google for the server-side.

[amateurmacfreak]

maybe apple is teaming up with Sony and promoting the new Spiderman
Um. Excuse me? XD

[DavidLeblond]

Yeah... um, hahaha. I'm dumb. :( Umm... is there a program like Apache for Mac? Or can Apache be for Mac? Wow. I'm so stupid. I'll go sit blushing in my little loser corner.:( But seriously, can someone answer my question please? :o

Erm Apache COMES WITH OS X so.... yes. :)

[MacsRgr8]

Yeah... um, hahaha. I'm dumb. :( Umm... is there a program like Apache for Mac? Or can Apache be for Mac? Wow. I'm so stupid. I'll go sit blushing in my little loser corner.:( But seriously, can someone answer my question please? :o

Start your "Perosnal Web Sharing" in your Sys Prefs.

Then type in your brower:
127.0.0.1

What do you see? ;)

[Phat_Pat]

Um. Excuse me? XD

the web in iWeb reminded me of Spiderman. in a pervious keynote stev-o had the ceo of sony onstage and they were discussing how they were going to pair up in the future doing "who knows what"

Sony is obsessed with spiderman (hell even the PS3 logo has the same font as the spiderman logo). i can see it happening

Spiderman 3 is going to rocccckckk!!!111111

[amateurmacfreak]

Erm Apache COMES WITH OS X so.... yes. :)
Thanks. Wow. Can't believe I didn't know that. :o :rolleyes:
Thank you! :)

Start your "Perosnal Web Sharing" in your Sys Prefs.

Then type in your brower:
127.0.0.1

What do you see? ;)
Wow. Thank you!! So much!! Yay!!:D
Thanks. And the whole time... it was just sitting there.... Personal Web Sharing unchecked. :o

the web in iWeb reminded me of Spiderman. in a pervious keynote stev-o had the ceo of sony onstage and they were discussing how they were going to pair up in the future doing "who knows what"

Sony is obsessed with spiderman (hell even the PS3 logo has the same font as the spiderman logo). i can see it happening

Spiderman 3 is going to rocccckckk!!!111111
Oh, haha. Get it. :)

[Platform]

iLife 06 was given....iWork, I think that too....but details :p

10.4.4 could be good too...just speeeed :D

[dicklacara]

I wrote the [old] Apple mailing list post that has been linked by several others.

http://lists.apple.com/archives/Web-dev/2004/Nov/msg00130.html

It was part of a comparison of web programming languages-- specifically, ColdFusion MX (CF/CFMX/CFML) vs more granular languages like PHP, ASP, Java, etc.

I believe it is much easier to create and maintain web sites using CF.

To support this belief, I suggested that a package (iWeb) could be created that allowed beginners to create an instant web site. While easy to learn/use, iWeb would allow users to create more robust sites if they had the need/desire.

It could be done with wizards and templates as well as open source web applications for shopping carts, drill-down database, blogging, etc.

The theory, being, that the provided apps would illustrate good program design and implementation-- so that a user could start quickly/easily and stop whenever he wanted, with a well-documented, well-designed, maintainable web site.

The site could be hosted on the user's computer, or a web hosting service-- or even tied in with a service like .Mac

At the time, I even created a simple web page explaining the concept (attached).

As you can see, the i in iWeb stands for instantaneous! (seemed like a pretty good name at the time).

A basic site could be hosted on the user's computer or something like .Mac.

To host more than a basic web site would have required ColdFusion MX and a DB Server. Likely, these sites would be hosted on a hosting service.

If .Mac were expanded to offer the necessary programming and db services at a competitive price it would be a reasonable option.

Dick Applebaum


38084

[GregA]

It is surprising though since Apple seems to be pretty good at keeping their site updated. Hopefully they'll (finally) update the iTunes version number on this page once iLife '06 is released! :DI think the http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/ site should say "As of iTunes 4.9", instead of "With iTunes 4.9".

[Laser47]

Oh, I have a countdown widget but not that one... and I want both. :D What's the url to download that please? Or the name of the widgets?
I'm not having to good of luck finding it myself.:o:(
Here you go :)
http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/business/countdowncalendar.html

[amateurmacfreak]

Here you go :)
http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/business/countdowncalendar.html
Oh, cool, thanks! :)

[hyperpasta]

Wow.

I'd say 80% that this will actually happen. It'll probably be marketed as a way to "bring your digital media together and share it on the intenet". We'll probably see HTML exporting, but it WILL be integrated with .Mac, which will probably see an update or price reduction.

As for GarageBand, it seems like the headline feature will be that you can make music videos and video podcasts without involving iMovie.

EDIT: 80% because it may be a fake planted by Apple.

[corywoolf]

I wrote the [old] Apple mailing list post that has been linked by several others.

http://lists.apple.com/archives/Web-dev/2004/Nov/msg00130.html

It was part of a comparison of web programming languages-- specifically, ColdFusion MX (CF/CFMX/CFML) vs more granular languages like PHP, ASP, Java, etc.

I believe it is much easier to create and maintain web sites using CF.

To support this belief, I suggested that a package (iWeb) could be created that allowed beginners to create an instant web site. While easy to learn/use, iWeb would allow users to create more robust sites if they had the need/desire.

It could be done with wizards and templates as well as open source web applications for shopping carts, drill-down database, blogging, etc.

The theory, being, that the provided apps would illustrate good program design and implementation-- so that a user could start quickly/easily and stop whenever he wanted, with a well-documented, well-designed, maintainable web site.

The site could be hosted on the user's computer, or a web hosting service-- or even tied in with a service like .Mac

At the time, I even created a simple web page explaining the concept (attached).

As you can see, the i in iWeb stands for instantaneous! (seemed like a pretty good name at the time).

A basic site could be hosted on the user's computer or something like .Mac.

To host more than a basic web site would have required ColdFusion MX and a DB Server. Likely, these sites would be hosted on a hosting service.

If .Mac were expanded to offer the necessary programming and db services at a competitive price it would be a reasonable option.

Dick Applebaum


38084

Looks like you like to illegally copy dvds?

:p

[Mac_Freak]

Now even a CNet has an article on this, they basically tell that Macrumors.com has posted screenshots. Why are those news sites referring to rumor pages, can you call that journalism?

Link news.com (http://news.com.com/Apple+may+be+readying+iLife+update/2100-1046_3-6019908.html?part=rss&tag=6019908&subj=news)

[windowuser82]

Now even a CNet has an article on this, they basically tell that Macrumors.com has posted screenshots. Why are those news sites referring to rumor pages, can you call that journalism?

Link news.com (http://news.com.com/Apple+may+be+readying+iLife+update/2100-1046_3-6019908.html?part=rss&tag=6019908&subj=news)


Screen shots are posted on this site.

or am I missing the joke?

[Bubbasteve]

I hope iWeb is an easy to use website designer...this would be great timing because I just got the urge to learn basic HTML and website design and with iWeb my dreams can come true... oh boy :p

[InsiderTravels]

If you go here:

http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/recording.html

Look at the source code and it says:

meta name="Generator" content="Cocoa HTML Writer"
meta name="CocoaVersion" content="824.23"

This is not on any other apple.com page I can find... and I have never heard of a Cocoa HTML Writer....

EDIT: a search on Google for Cocoa HTML Writer brings up nothing in that word order (7 pages but none of them have the words together...)


A while back, I thought that as well. But if you create an html page using TextEdit (which, if you'll remember, will save html now), you'll see that the source code says something about Cocoa HTML Writer (or at least it used to the last time I checked, which admittedly was several months ago).

Perhaps they are working on an HTML editor that will be incorporated at system level just like Safari Webkit. Then the framework could be used by TextEdit, Pages, and whatever else Apple decides to create. The trend at Apple over the past few years seems to have been geared toward including frameworks in the operating system that can be utilized by any application, like it's currently sub-par RAW converter.

I have no problem with Apple creating an html editor, as long as it creates standards-compliant, table-free, XHTML/CSS markup. Simple, Clean, Semantic.

[Doctor Q]

I have no problem with Apple creating an html editor, as long as it creates standards-compliant, table-free, XHTML/CSS markup. Simple, Clean, Semantic.Why table-free?

[Mac_Freak]

Screen shots are posted on this site.

or am I missing the joke?
What I am trying to say that stuff like a leak of iLife '06 is usually discussed in rumors/discussion sites but not posted on News sites.

[MarcelV]

I am a little surprised with some thinking this will be a dreamweaver or even a Frontpage replacement. If iWeb will be the web editor it will be Apple style. Anyone that is here concerned about clean HTML or expect very flexible HTML editing is probably missing the point. That would not be part of iLife. Apple would put an extension into XCode for this. iLife is for simple people like me, that (burned out after 15 year of coding and IT, now just a simple being in this universe) don't care too much about those things anymore. The target group will be the iPhoto, iMovie and Garageband users. Just people who like to play in a creative way with those apps and want to share their result with their family and the rest of the world. That's what iLife is, and when iWeb is an iLife app, it will probably not be different. I am sure for most users, not the techies under us, it will suffice and fun as it will give instant results without a need for the technical understanding.

[gorkonapple]

Scroll to the bottom and to the right under "Additional Resources". Little slip on their part?


http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/


I would NOT follow Apple's recommendation to use AAC. MP3 is more universal. I don't want to make my listeners have to play games to listen to the show.

[Norse Son]

I guess no one will be surprised when SJ announces iLife 06 next Tuesday. However, it's un-Apple-like to confirm an announced product like that.:)
Then, again, maybe not... What's happening right now, this week, while Steve Jobs is polishing his Keynote presentation for the keynote on the 10th? CES... CES... CES...

Apple isn't there, but they can sure command media attention & speculation about what they might reveal next week at MWSF... It doesn't matter if it's Intel laptops, iPods, iLife '06, more networks & studios on iTMS, a DVR Mac, whatever - people are more interested in what Apple "might" do, than in what others "do" do (or is that "doodoo"?).

Almost makes you feel sorry for Bill Gates' pathetic efforts to make Vista sound groundbreaking and revolutionary... Almost... Dress a pig up in a ball gown all you want, but you'll never get it to tango... On the other hand; dress a pig up in a clown suit and they'll ham it up (sorry, couldn't resist that last one).

[InsiderTravels]

Why table-free?


Umm...because using tables for layout is simply bad web design practice. It's completely unnecessary in modern CSS design. You should use tables ONLY for tabular data, the way they were originally intended to be used.

When I say "table-free", I don't mean absolutely NO table in the entire website. I only mean NO nested tables for layout purposes.

If you have truly tabular data to display, then by all means, use a table to do it. But if you are trying to make a three-column layout with a header and footer, using tables is the last thing you want to do.

Web pages load exponentially faster when you use semantic markup, including DIV tags to separate major sections of the page. Plus, they're much more search-engine friendly when coded correctly.

I've outlined the main reasons. Of course, I could get much more detailed than this, but I already wrote several essays and papers on this subject when I was in graduate school, so I don't have the energy to elaborate further. ;)

[applekid]

If iWeb is a web development app, wouldn't you expect it in iWork? I suppose a webpage building programming would be able to connect .Mac to the rest of your iLife creations.

[windowuser82]

What I am trying to say that stuff like a leak of iLife '06 is usually discussed in rumors/discussion sites but not posted on News sites.


Gotcha

but

I really don't think it was an accidental leak in the first place.

[InsiderTravels]

I am a little surprised with some thinking this will be a dreamweaver or even a Frontpage replacement. If iWeb will be the web editor it will be Apple style. Anyone that is here concerned about clean HTML or expect very flexible HTML editing is probably missing the point. That would not be part of iLife. Apple would put an extension into XCode for this. iLife is for simple people like me, that (burned out after 15 year of coding and IT, now just a simple being in this universe) don't care too much about those things anymore. The target group will be the iPhoto, iMovie and Garageband users. Just people who like to play in a creative way with those apps and want to share their result with their family and the rest of the world. That's what iLife is, and when iWeb is an iLife app, it will probably not be different. I am sure for most users, not the techies under us, it will suffice and fun as it will give instant results without a need for the technical understanding.


Unfortunately, I think you're probably right. I've never expected Apple to release anything in the iLife suite (or anything else, for that matter) that would appeal to those with advanced technical and/or creative training.

But at the same time, they need to follow the standards I've mentioned even if they plan to make it transparent to the consumer users they target when they develop their software. The last thing anyone needs is a million more ridiculously bloated websites that make browser programmers' jobs more complicated.

Actually, if someone (perhaps Apple) would develop a website creation application that alleviated the need for all but the most professional users to fiddle with markup code, it would be beneficial to the Internet as a whole because it would mean fewer badly coded, non-compliant sites online -- and eventually browser programmers could stop trying to accommodate them with lousy quirks modes and such.

So I guess what I'm saying is that we NEED an application that simplifies things for the consumers by hiding all the programming stuff from them so they don't have to deal with it anymore.

[D3LM3L]

I'm thinking Apple's iWeb will be similarly done as CSSEdit by Macrabbit. It will be a completely drag-n-drop GUI for webpages, including all the CSS/XHTML blah blah blah that modern websites use. The websites will be coded nicely, just like RapidWeaver makes their's, for example. But, the way iWeb will be like CSSEdit, is that it will be able to do webpage editing from the GUI or from manual coding- and the app will recognize and dynamically update from anything you manually type in. This is just how CSSEdit works- you can either edit CSS from the GUI mode, or switch it to source code mode and you can do everything yourself, and it recognizes everything immediately.

Apple's probably going to push .Mac very much now, and eventually leading up to that iDisk-centered media distribution system. The rumors we've seen in the past weeks may not ALL happen at MWSF- some may even happen next year (the crazy ones)! But, because they came, they will most likely come true sooner or later.

[Peace]

Gotcha

but

I really don't think it was an accidental leak in the first place.

That I can agree with..Apple's trying to remind folks that MWSF is 5 days away;)

[solvs]

I would NOT follow Apple's recommendation to use AAC. MP3 is more universal. I don't want to make my listeners have to play games to listen to the show.
AAC is open source. It's just Apple's DRM that makes it proprietary, but QT can play it as well. That being said, I would also go with MP3 as it is universal, but the quality isn't as high unless you up the filesize.

I'll bet iWeb is something for basic site creation as well. Just makes sense. For those worried about amatures creating horrible looking pages, they already do. Maybe Apple will help them suck less. :p

[SpaceMagic]

I love the way CNET says:

The information was no longer on Apple's site as of midmorning Thursday, but Apple rumor site MacRumors.com has posted a screenshot. Several readers of that site also claimed to have screenshots.

We "claim" do we? I'm pretty sure when i posted the screen shot i went to apple's site opened grab, took screen shot of window (yep i know there's a keyboard short cut but i always forget it :p).

[mpw]

AAC is open source. It's just Apple's DRM that makes it proprietary, but QT can play it as well...
I didn't know that. So does that mean that I can move my DRM'd purchased through iTMS music files to a MS Windows PC and play them through QT for Windows?

[Doctor Q]

We "claim" do we? I'm pretty sure when i posted the screen shot i went to apple's site opened grab, took screen shot of window (yep i know there's a keyboard short cut but i always forget it :p).But they don't know that you didn't make a stop in Photoshop along the way. So they say "claim", which is true (you DO claim it's a screenshot), rather than taking it at face value and making that claim themselves.

[autrefois]

I'll bet iWeb is something for basic site creation as well. Just makes sense. For those worried about amatures creating horrible looking pages, they already do. Maybe Apple will help them suck less. :p

I don't know why, but I found that really funny. :D I can see it now...

Your webpages suck. iWeb will help them suck less. (TM)

As an amateur whose webpages do suck (I admit it), I would buy iWeb if that were the tagline, and I bet I'm not alone. I'm finally starting to get my footing in Dreamweaver, but I'm sure Apple could come up with something that's less powerful but less complicated and more elegant: "web design for the rest of us"

[magi.sys]

who cares about a website creator. what we really need is a spreadsheet program in iWork!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[yankeefan24]

iWeb…people think a website creator…i think a new and improved safari…with ichat and mail built in…but once i think again…i think that it is more likely a website creator. I hope so. I need one.

[MarcelV]

who cares about a website creator. what we really need is a spreadsheet program in iWork!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
What about both, so we can build a spreatsheet of our empty pocketbooks after MWSF in Numbers and show this the world thru iWeb :D

[hob]

who cares about a website creator. what we really need is a spreadsheet program in iWork!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Maybe in your world.

In mine, I'd LOVE something that allows me to make my Blog and HobCast pages looks less templated. I gave up on trying to modify HTML... Guess I'm just lazy!

Why do you want a spreadsheet program so bad?

[d_and_n5000]

I don't think anyone will be getting fired,


Someone will get fired. It's Steve's nature. People are scared to be in the same elevator as him because they may not have a job when they get out.


Anyway...
iWeb-a tad too obvious. Something to do with web pages, and idiot consumers(a.k.a. me) making them. Cool.

iLife '06-great. Now all I need is a mac to go with it.

[Swinny]

I think this is the end of .Mac as we know it...I'm sure Apple make lots more cash selling copies of iLife each year than it does subscriptions to .Mac...so why not take a gamble on adding it as a feature of iLife - everyone gets a .Mac account and all the benefits that entails, and iWeb is just an updated version of .Mac's homepage app.

Afterall, if the rumours of massive storage space and bandwidth to accomodate these new video on demand services are true, then Apple would be mad to limit that purely to .Mac users (iTunes is free)...just add £10 to the cost of iLife (more than worth it when you consider the potential new features) to bring in a bit more cash to cover the loss in .Mac subsciptions - and cover the rest with profits from content sales of whatever the new media download service might be.

[hob]

I think this is the end of .Mac as we know it...I'm sure Apple make lots more cash selling copies of iLife each year than it does subscriptions to .Mac...so why not take a gamble on adding it as a feature of iLife - everyone gets a .Mac account and all the benefits that entails, and iWeb is just an updated version of .Mac's homepage app.

Afterall, if the rumours of massive storage space and bandwidth to accomodate these new video on demand services are true, then Apple would be mad to limit that purely to .Mac users (iTunes is free)...just add £10 to the cost of iLife (more than worth it when you consider the potential new features) to bring in a bit more cash to cover the loss in .Mac subsciptions - and cover the rest with profits from content sales of whatever the new media download service might be.

I was thinking earlier how they couldn't just piss off hundreds/thousands/hundreds of thousands(?) of .Mac subscribers - it's like Steve said with the iPod... "we have to think really carefully about what we add, because we can't easily take it away again".

You really really couldn't bring in like a .Mac Lite thing... I for one have about 300 days left on my .Mac subscription, and I'd be pretty pissed off!

Not that I don't think it's a good idea, but I don't think I get my moneys worth as it is, let alone if they did the same thing for free.

The only thing I really pay for is my .Mac email address. It would take me an entire day to switch over to GMail - editing profiles on 20987209875298734 websites...

[Chupa Chupa]

IMHO feature bloat (somthing that OTHER OS maker is famous for) is not the way to go with iLife '06.

I could care less about making a podcast, and I really don't think the world needs more boring podcasts that wouldn't make it on the radio at 2AM on a Sunday. Anyone ever persue the number of mind numbing podcasts on iTunes? And I don't want to make a webpage either. I've got better things to do with my time. Maybe that kind of app would be more appropriate in iWork for small businesses that want to put a site up but can't afford a pro designer. As for blogging, there is plenty of excellent and free blogging software for those who have something to say (most blogs are pretty inane though). Apple should spend it's R&D money on more cutting edge stuff.

What I would really love to see is a iMove that provides at least two video tracks and three audio tracks, and most importantly doesn't creep to a near hault once you get near the ten minute mark. I'd like to see a iPhoto that has more robust editing features. I'd like to see a iTunes that supports more than one library so that you don't have to come up with a bass ackward scheme when you have muliple iPods. In short, Apple should work on making the existing apps in iLife more stable and handy rather than filling it up with software usefull only to a limited number of people (namely the Internet saavy wannabes).

[solvs]

I didn't know that. So does that mean that I can move my DRM'd purchased through iTMS music files to a MS Windows PC and play them through QT for Windows?
Sure, why not. It's a free country. :p Seriously though, I do it on my Mac all the time. QT is set to open music files, iTunes is just the jukebox. As long as you have QT 7 to listen to stuff d/l'ed via iT6. But you have to dl them together now, so you'd still have iTunes on your PC anyway.

Your webpages suck. iWeb will help them suck less. (TM)
If they use that, I expect compensation. ;)

[min_t]

I didn't know that. So does that mean that I can move my DRM'd purchased through iTMS music files to a MS Windows PC and play them through QT for Windows?

He was talkin' plain vanilla AAC, not DRM-flavored.

[yankeefan24]

I think this is the end of .Mac as we know it...

As long as it updates for current users i will be happy. (of course they would)
I just renewed mine. But if its a 30 day return…i could get it.

[yankeefan24]

If they use that, I expect compensation. ;)

lol…a quick way to make a few bucks.:)

[Island Dog]

If it's announced at the expo, usually how long is it before you can purchase it?

[Some_Big_Spoon]

Hackensack representing! (love the 1/9 ;-) )

If they want iDisk to be the center of the universe, then they better make sure it runs a wee bit faster than it does now.. 30 minutes for a 5mb file is just too much fun for one man to have.

I'm thinking Apple's iWeb will be similarly done as CSSEdit by Macrabbit. It will be a completely drag-n-drop GUI for webpages, including all the CSS/XHTML blah blah blah that modern websites use. The websites will be coded nicely, just like RapidWeaver makes their's, for example. But, the way iWeb will be like CSSEdit, is that it will be able to do webpage editing from the GUI or from manual coding- and the app will recognize and dynamically update from anything you manually type in. This is just how CSSEdit works- you can either edit CSS from the GUI mode, or switch it to source code mode and you can do everything yourself, and it recognizes everything immediately.

Apple's probably going to push .Mac very much now, and eventually leading up to that iDisk-centered media distribution system. The rumors we've seen in the past weeks may not ALL happen at MWSF- some may even happen next year (the crazy ones)! But, because they came, they will most likely come true sooner or later.

[D3LM3L]

Hackensack representing! (love the 1/9 ;-) )

If they want iDisk to be the center of the universe, then they better make sure it runs a wee bit faster than it does now.. 30 minutes for a 5mb file is just too much fun for one man to have.

Oh, and dont' forget that 1 minute delay everytime you want to open an Open/Save As dialog when the iDisk is enabled.

Here's how Apple deals with bugs/problems in their software
They create new features so that you'll forget about the old bugs :eek: :D

[hyperpasta]

If it's announced at the expo, usually how long is it before you can purchase it?

It'll be up for pre-order as soon as the Apple Store comes back nline after the keynote (maybe 10 or 20 minutes). It'll probably ship in the week after the expo.

[SilentPanda]

That and the fact that you can't see the URL. Of all things web pages would be the easiest to fake and really get those macheads buzzing.:rolleyes: I don't know, just something that crossed my mind.

It was on a windows machine because I was at work when I took the screenshot. I cut off the URL because in between the URL and the webpage were all the tabs I had open which had information I didn't care to make public. My track record is good enough on MR that people trust me. And if they don't. meh. :p

[Mac_Freak]

It was on a windows machine because I was at work when I took the screenshot. I cut off the URL because in between the URL and the webpage were all the tabs I had open which had information I didn't care to make public. My track record is good enough on MR that people trust me. And if they don't. meh. :p

I have followed the link the link that you provided and I have seen for my self, so yea, your cool :D
I guess some people have to see it for them self,.................... like me :p

[amateurmacfreak]

I don't know why, but I found that really funny. :D I can see it now...

Your webpages suck. iWeb will help them suck less. (TM)

As an amateur whose webpages do suck (I admit it), I would buy iWeb if that were the tagline, and I bet I'm not alone. I'm finally starting to get my footing in Dreamweaver, but I'm sure Apple could come up with something that's less powerful but less complicated and more elegant: "web design for the rest of us"
That would be absolutely awesome. Especially as a super stupid person that's trying to learn to make websites by just writing my own code. :p

[solvs]

He was talkin' plain vanilla AAC, not DRM-flavored.
Nope. As long as the computer is authorized, QT7 will play DRM'ed .m4p files just as iTunes does. Worked with QT6 and iT4.x as well. Both Macs and PCs.

[tjwett]

I hope iWeb is an easy to use website designer...this would be great timing because I just got the urge to learn basic HTML and website design and with iWeb my dreams can come true... oh boy :p

http://www.realmacsoftware.com/rapidweaver/index.php

[Lacero]

I cut off the URL because in between the URL and the webpage were all the tabs I had open which had information I didn't care to make public. My track record is good enough on MR that people trust me.
Nice excuse, but com'on, you can't fool some of us. The fact you're using a PC web browser suggests you're one of those PC fanboys out to make us Mac users go into a tizzy just by releasing very scant information on upcoming new products from Apple. Nice evil ploy but I can see right through you.

We Mac users might be lemmings, but we not stupid idiots!

p.s. URLs can be faked, too. I guess we believes you because you is a cute and playful panda! :pHere's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[SeaFox]

God, I hope Steve Jobs doesn't demonstrate iWeb the way he did with iTools. BORING! Perchance, what could it be? Perhaps a new Apple-designed blogging tool for .Mac users?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)


That would be awesome! I real value-add for .Mac subs (which don't seem to be exactly flying off the shelves) and I've been wanting to start a blog on my .Mac account but have been having a hard time finding programs that support WebDAV (or are cross platform). Something that can be accessed from the web (and doesn't require a special Mac-only program like iCal does) would be nice.

[SilentPanda]

p.s. URLs can be faked, too. I guess we believes you because you is a cute and playful panda! :p

Well I wasn't going to reveal it... but I also got this screen shot. Unfortunately I was at day care and all I had was an etch-a-sketch. But... I have a track record. and stuff.

(which now makes everybody reconsider the validity of the first screenshot even though I am now obviously joking)

[2nyRiggz]

cool, bring it on apple im ready


Bless

[Super Dave]

Well I wasn't going to reveal it... but I also got this screen shot. Unfortunately I was at day care and all I had was an etch-a-sketch. But... I have a track record. and stuff.

(which now makes everybody reconsider the validity of the first screenshot even though I am now obviously joking)

Finally! That'll work great with the iPB&J.

PS - Good use of white text.

David :cool:

[lekun]

Every time Apple releases a new iLife or OS they always allow purchasers of recently bought systems to qualify for a free upgrade (one of the few consumer friendly practices at Apple) and I remember it is always a pretty miserly time-frame.

Does anyone remember what that time frame is?

[strack]

It was on a windows machine because I was at work when I took the screenshot. I cut off the URL because in between the URL and the webpage were all the tabs I had open which had information I didn't care to make public. My track record is good enough on MR that people trust me. And if they don't. meh. :p

Hey, sorry about that, actually the google link in the end convinced me. That would be pretty hard to fake a google cache.
:)

[Scottgfx]

Well I wasn't going to reveal it... but I also got this screen shot. Unfortunately I was at day care and all I had was an etch-a-sketch. But... I have a track record. and stuff.

Wow, how did you get Safari to run under Windows?

[Doxxic]

The remark about adding video to Garageband rather clearly suggests that you can *not* add video to Garageband!

[s10]

The remark about adding video to Garageband rather clearly suggests that you can *not* add video to Garageband!

No, it does not. It just suggests the video format is not right.

[the-fish]

That iTunes 4.9 reference... fishy, that's fishy...

I'm disinclined to get my hopes up... errrrrrr........ iLife '06, yes. iWeb? Hrrmmmph...

[840quadra]

God, I hope Steve Jobs doesn't demonstrate iWeb the way he did with iTools. BORING! Perchance, what could it be? Perhaps a new Apple-designed blogging tool for .Mac users?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

Especially with the way that iCards was NOT working correctly that day. The other slow point was iReview :( .Good thing is, OS X's Aqua interface was unveiled that day, and made up for the floppy demo! :D

They should just call it iWant.

iWeb could be anything from a webpage designer to some cool online sharing utility. Hmmm could Apple be rolling out a P2P app?!?! Naa.

That would be awesome, but like you, I highly doubt it :( .


I smell a rat here and/or it's not what people are thinking. The web pages mentioned "with iTunes 4.9 bringing podcasting..." Ummm... 4.9? That was a year and a half ago?

This page may actually be just one giant screw up and not anything at all to get worked up about... certainly not a confirmation of anything.

I spotted that too, but also think to myself, "Why would they stop making iLife (or something like it) in 2006, when it was a popular application package "?

Anyway
When I checked out the cached google page, I noticed that previously mentioned link that specifies "Can't open movie Error when Adding Video to Garageband" takes you to a page for garageband, but for a completely different issue? :confused:

I have added a screen shot to show that link.

[SilentPanda]

Wow, how did you get Safari to run under Windows?

That was on an etch-a-sketch.

I have a Powerbook at home though (hence why I chill at MacRumors).