Countdown to Macworld San Francisco (MWSF) 2006

[MacRumors]

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The rumors and speculation continue to build pre-Macworld with a flurry of articles (http://news.google.com/?ncl=http://edition.cnn.com/money/2006/01/09/technology/macworld_preview/&hl=en) about what Apple could introduce tomorrow.

Our own rumor roundup (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060105230546.shtml) summarizes the major rumors to date. Since its publication, of course, the Mac Plasma (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060106171732.shtml) rumor has since emerged, sparking a heated discussion (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=171221). Jason O'Grady is standing by this rumor (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=68) as well as adding claims of Front Row 2.0, and a 2.8GHz Mac mini.

MacRumors will provide live coverage of the MacWorld keynote at http://www.macrumors.com which also displays a minute-by-minute countdown until the event.

Stay tuned for any last minute revelations.

[Lacero]

I'm very itchy! :D Come soon MWSF! I hope the convenience store clerk is right!

[liketom]

credit card ready and waiting for the apple store to come back online tuesday !

[reflex]

2.8GHz dual core Yonah in the mini? Yeah right :rolleyes:

[mduser63]

I have class tomorrow during the keynote. I've already decided that I'm ditching class to follow the live coverage, as it's in one of the few classrooms that still doesn't have WiFi.

I think it's pretty certain that there won't be a 2.8 GHz Yonah based mini, as Yonah doesn't go up that high. I wouldn't be surprised to see something closer to 1.6 GHz.

[RichP]

Things to do tomorrow morning:

Reset DSL Modem
Reset WiFi
Boot G5
On 20" #1 ACD - Macrumors.com
On 20" #2 ACD - Store.Apple.com
On Desk: Amex Card

[Yebot]

New iBooks next Tuesday.

[TVGenius]

Plasma... too fragile, too heavy, LOW resolution... and what market is clamoring for this? Bad idea... Plasma is going to quickly go the way of the dodo. Why pay $2000+ for a monitor with a native resolution no better than SVGA and is extremely susceptible to burn-in?

[GottaHaveMac]

Yes... my credit card is waiting & willing ;)

[digitalbiker]

Somehow I just can't feel good about this years MacWorld in SF.

I feel like a Bronco fan after the 1999 Superbowl waving goodbye to John Elway and realizing that Brian Griese was going to be the future.

My intellect knows I have to say goodbye to the great old guy to make way for budding future stars but my heart is telling me this has got to be a mistake.

This is how I feel about the switch from PPC to x86. Is this really the best future for Apple, I guess we will find out because we won't be able to look back after tomorrow!:(

[ImAlwaysRight]

2.8GHz dual core Yonah in the mini? Yeah right :rolleyes:
I second that. Plus Yonah is only at 1.5 - 2.1GHz right now, I thought. Well, one can dream. No wonder folks are so let down after these shows. :mad:

[Peace]

Hey Now!! Where's the minute-by-minute countdown at ?

:)

[ipacmm]

credit card ready and waiting for the apple store to come back online tuesday !

same with me, I can't wait...

[AlmostThere]

2.8GHz dual core Yonah in the mini? Yeah right :rolleyes:
He forgot the $250 price tag.

[dr_lha]

The only way the Mac Mini is going to be 2.8Ghz is if they market a Dual 1.4Ghz as 2x1.4 = 2.8Ghz. ;)

It would be nice though, to have a Mac Mini with similar processor specs to a Dual G5!

[Stridder44]

http://rgbdream.com/library/photos/powerbook50top.jpg

Stand. and. deliver.

[Stella]

> 2.8GHz dual-core Yonah processor.

Bull.

This would outclass PowerMacs.

MWSF will be very interesting, I feel.

Don't get your hopes up, you'll be disappointed. Certinely do not fall for all the hype, either.

[Doctor Q]

I'm ready. I'm not in need of a new Mac yet (not that I'd turn one away if it jumped into my car), but I'll consider an immediate purchase of iLife '06, an Apple web design application, or other new software they announce.

[Stinkythe1]

Bluetooth Mighty Mouse!!!!

[shadowmoses]

This is gonna be really cool, im sure we will see some sweet ****, unfortunatly for me i wont be buying anything as i am short on cash and i dont need anything...

So basically im watching just for Kicks,

SHadow

[Peace]

> 2.8GHz dual-core Yonah processor.

Bull.

This would outclass PowerMacs.

MWSF will be very interesting, I feel.

Don't get your hopes up, you'll be disappointed. Certinely do not fall for all the hype, either.


There HAS to be a time during this transition that the current Powerbook AND current Powermac get surpassed in power..

It's the law of transitions..subchapter 43 page 124 paragraph 14b.:)

[2nyRiggz]

Bring it on! oh my it feels like christmas up in here...yea!!


Bless

[twoodcc]

i can't wait either. if they do release a dual-core mac mini, i'm going to buy it.

[Xephian]

I want to see new iPods.

[Stella]

There HAS to be a time during this transition that the current Powerbook AND current Powermac get surpassed in power..

It's the law of transitions..subchapter 43 page 124 paragraph 14b.:)

Agreed, it would be very easy to outclass PowerBooks.

It wouldn't do Apple much good to outclass the PowerMacs so swiftly .

[AtariMac]

I just don't see this one happening as fellow Pennsylvanian O'Grady predicts. I think the Mac Mini will be the media center, not a Mac Mini built into a Plasma. I think Apple will announce they have partnered with one of the Japanese LCD/Plasma screen manufacturers to bundle a Mac Mini with one of their screens.

Apple concentrates on the media center, Japanese TV MFG concentrates on the TV. Both win and both do what they do best.

Just my two cents.

Pete

[Lacero]

Bring it on! oh my it feels like christmas up in here...yea!!
Around this time is wonderful for me. Christmas, New Year's, and then MWSF and my birthday... but of course, MWSF is always the highlight of them all.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[Bob Knob]

Clearly there won't be any new products announced at MacWorld this year, I mean where are the photos of new product boxes in an elevator? How come no one has reported that one of the sales people at their local Apple store leaked them the specs on new gear just as they were about to buy a "soon to be obsolete" product.

[thedude110]

Bring it on! oh my it feels like christmas up in here...yea!!


Bless


It's better than Christmas, it's the Christmas Eve of the Mac world! All is anticpation and imagination -- visions of 50" standalone computers dancing in their heads, etc.

Of course for those of us without the spare $3200, I guess the anticipation will stretch itself out for a while. :(

Thank God for Apple stores. At least then you can pretend you own a 50" cineMac.

[UberMac]

Well you might be itching Lacero, but I'm about to gnaw my arm off in anticipation. Oh I just can't wait, but I guess I should try and concentrate on something else being as I have two A Level maths modules tomorrow afternoon about an hour before the start of the Stevenote™...Oh Steve, why hath tho forsaken me with such inconvenient timing!

Uber

[deputy_doofy]

I might consider getting an iBook just to hold me over until the PowerBooks arrive. Perhaps I'll try one at CompUSA first.
Admittedly, no recent Powerbook has felt faster than my 1GHz PB 12". That's kind of depressing. I'm hoping this changes...

[Lollypop]

<pops some popcorn> Ill be happy with a sligtly faster mini with a decent graphics card and the option to do 2 gigs of memory.

[atari1356]

Hoping for an updated iPod shuffle, because that's all I can afford right now - and I want something a bit smaller than my original 5Gb iPod.

Dual 2.8Ghz Mac Mini ??? Someone is pulling O'Grady's chain.

[Peace]

Hoping for an updated iPod shuffle, because that's all I can afford right now - and I want something a bit smaller than my original 5Gb iPod.

Dual 2.8Ghz Mac Mini ??? Someone is pulling O'Grady's chain.

Sounds odd but that could be a PPC

[thedude110]

I have two A Level maths modules tomorrow afternoon about an hour before the start of the Stevenote™...Oh Steve, why hath tho forsaken me with such inconvenient timing!

Uber

Ugh. I know. I have to teach during the keynote. Can you believe that? I've gotta supervise full-of-attitude adolescents while they rearrange words in poems from Macbeth instead of watching Steve.

Maybe we'll put MacRumors up on a projector and do an impromptu analysis of internet language instead ...

[AtariMac]

Hoping for an updated iPod shuffle, because that's all I can afford right now - and I want something a bit smaller than my original 5Gb iPod.

Dual 2.8Ghz Mac Mini ??? Someone is pulling O'Grady's chain.

Hey anybody with Atari in the nick is ok with me.

[iEdd]

Uno, rumour sites have really changed. Rumours used to tell us one or two things at an event so we'd have the excitement of knowing, and still some surprise. The Stevenote is meant to be a happy surprise, but now it will probably just be a disappointment when most of the rumours we have believed aren't true :(
I'm still excited though :D

[Peace]

Ugh. I know. I have to teach during the keynote. Can you believe that? I've gotta supervise full-of-attitude adolescents while they rearrange words in poems from Macbeth instead of watching Steve.

Maybe we'll put MacRumors up on a projector and do an impromptu analysis of internet language instead ...


Actually that would be a good learning tool..

[EGT]

I somehow managed to convince myself the keynote was today even when the countdown is clearly on the MR front page and I have a widget with the same info, which I've been checking for weeks.

Where's my tardis? :mad:

Tick .... tock .... tick .... tock.

[sisyphus]

I'll eat my shorts if Steve-o introduces a plasma TV with an integrated Mac. :D

No Plasma, No iPods (except maybe revised Shuffle).

New iLife (pretty obvious)
New iBook - been a long time since upgraded.
New Mac Mini - This is why they didn't announce the previous upgrade. They didn't want to announce one upgrade then announce another such a short time later. Not very Steve like.

One more thing? Who knows. I'd like the PVR Mac Mini, but Steve apparently doesn't like TV. (Plus he doesn't make money off of iTunes sales). Must be something with the rumored increase in .Mac bandwidth.

Sisyphus

PS I'd better get some hot sause ready for my shorts just in case.:( :eek: :D

[Bern]

Well right now I have everything I need (much to the relief of my credit card), but as always I await the improvements to the iLife package and that would probably be all I get.

[nagromme]

SOME of the exciting rumors will turn out to be true.

Of course, some will not, which will mean much disappointment for some.

Just remember, some things that ARE true will NOT show up tomorrow. Some things are ready now, others will be ready... soon. Apple may want to spread out the announcements.

For instance, I'd love to see ALL the G4 Macs updated to Core tomorrow, but I'd guess that only some will be. But I think the others will likely follow before too long.

[BlizzardBomb]

2.8Ghz... yeah right. IMO the Mac Mini only needs 3 things to be perfected:

7200rpm HD with larger storage
At least an ATI 9600/X300
Bluetooth, Airport and a Superdrive as standard on all models.

It would also be nice if they introduced a high-end model of the Mac Mini with the same specs as the iMac (X600, 160GB standard, double-layer Superdrive, DDR2 RAM). The Cube returns :)

[johnpaul191]

Ugh. I know. I have to teach during the keynote. Can you believe that? I've gotta supervise full-of-attitude adolescents while they rearrange words in poems from Macbeth instead of watching Steve.

Maybe we'll put MacRumors up on a projector and do an impromptu analysis of internet language instead ...


unless you are there, nobody is watching Steve. there is no live webcast this year. there will be one posted later (at night maybe). the news/rumor sites are hoping for wifi or cell phone connections to report from.

[Lacero]

The Stevenote is meant to be a happy surprise, but now it will probably just be a disappointment when most of the rumours we have believed aren't true :( I'm still excited though :D
That's the spirit. Nothing like a self-induced flogging with a chain whip made courtesy of MR. :D

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[2nyRiggz]

Around this time is wonderful for me. Christmas, New Year's, and then MWSF and my birthday... but of course, MWSF is always the highlight of them all.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

yup i love this time of year...but my BD is a month away...oh well xmas twice a year everyone!


Bless

[Randall]

Those rumors are some serious b.s. What about the new intel PowerBooks? Nothing mentioned about them at all in the "rumor roundup". Also, there is no way in h3ll we'll see a Core Duo in the Mac Mini. You people are out of your minds if you think that the Core Duo will find it's way into the Mini in any form. The mini is an entry level machine, and it won't get professional grade components. Frankly, I don't see the Core Duo finding it's way into any platform other then PowerBook. Just stop and look at all of the Core Duo PC notebooks announced last week at CES. ALL of them are PROFESSIONAL grade notebooks.

[Yvan256]

Plasma... too fragile, too heavy, LOW resolution... and what market is clamoring for this? Bad idea... Plasma is going to quickly go the way of the dodo. Why pay $2000+ for a monitor with a native resolution no better than SVGA and is extremely susceptible to burn-in?

Because people like to say "PLAAAAAAAAAASMAAAAAAAAAAAA".

Yep, Seinfeld reference. :D

[UberMac]

Maybe we'll put MacRumors up on a projector and do an impromptu analysis of internet language instead ...

Now that sounds like an English lesson I could really get into! :D Perhaps it is time to use some new teaching methods...*ahem*

Now look at the way Steve is introduc...OMFGZ...is that an 8" 64 bit dual 2.8GHz Newton with OS X Leopard?!...AND it analyses english lessons for you?! Screw you guys I need to check my credit limit!

Uber

[Randall]

Plasma is the Sux0rzAmen to that. Give me LCD or DLP any day over Plasma. :cool:

[2nyRiggz]

It's better than Christmas, it's the Christmas Eve of the Mac world! All is anticpation and imagination -- visions of 50" standalone computers dancing in their heads, etc.

Of course for those of us without the spare $3200, I guess the anticipation will stretch itself out for a while. :(

Thank God for Apple stores. At least then you can pretend you own a 50" cineMac.

i think people who cant afford anything right now still got that "oh Boy!" going on....if i cant get a PB im going for a mini and that will hold me off until powermac g6(?) comes out


Bless

[mtrctyjoe]

I predict a flat panel wifi screen that connects to a updated Mac Mini... you can control your media center with it our use it to watch movies on or serf the web... !!!

[Lacero]

Those rumors are some serious b.s. <snip> You people are out of your minds if you think...
You're new here, aren't you?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[Beck446]

Usually by this time, we've seen some spy photos or a leak of legit-sounding specs (not this 2.8 stuff). So WHO KNOWS!?! It should be great!

[Peace]

If only Apple engineers and Steve Jobs had the technical expertise that macrumor members had...:rolleyes:

[Randall]

You're new here, aren't you?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)If you think you'll see an intel mac mini with a core duo tomorrow, then you must be new here too. (Earth that is) :rolleyes:

[aussie_geek]

I want to see new iPods.


No thanks. There are enough iPods for everyone. As of late, I have felt that all Apple does is bring out iPods. Stuff the iPods I want Mac's and other stuff.

Can't wait for the 'one more thing'. It had better be good..

aussie_geek

[LimeiBook86]

I've been waiting for a new Mac for a long time, if these machines turn out to be the first intel Macs I'll probably have to buy one, haha. :D

[spine]

Oh boy.

What ever happened to the iPhone rumors?

[wms121]

..you will be ready:

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/3BBB27E5BCC165BA87256A2B0064FFB4/$file/128bitPlbBus.pdf

..ok that is just the "bus protocols"..and every little thingie..but..

Solaris 10 is now a freebie..maybe McNealy will jump on stage...hug Steve,
and then pass out free ______________________ <--fill in the blank.

WW

[Lacero]

No thanks. There are enough iPods for everyone. As of late, I have felt that all Apple does is bring out iPods.
LOL. I was hoping for an updated video iPod, since I was about to get one today, but then realized I only have to wait excruciatingly one more day on iPod news. Do you think Steve would surprise us all and come out with a new 6G iPod?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[EGT]

Do you think Steve would surprise us all and come out with a new 6G iPod?

Fifth gen is still being produced in large numbers. So, no.

[Randall]

LOL. I was hoping for an updated video iPod, since I was about to get one today, but then realized I only have to wait excruciatingly one more day on iPod news. Do you think Steve would surprise us all and come out with a new 6G iPod?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)I dunno the 5G iPods have barely been out for 3 months. Then again, iTunes 5 was out for less time then that before 6 came along. Who knows. I just wish there was a webcast available somewhere.

[Bonte]

Agreed, it would be very easy to outclass PowerBooks.
It wouldn't do Apple much good to outclass the PowerMacs so swiftly .

Apple won't outclass the quad G5 that easy, a dual top model is a possibility. They plan to enter the Intel business with a BANG so we can expect the unexpected. :)

[BRLawyer]

The lack of elevator pics means only one THING, yeah...PowerBook G5 TOMORROW! YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!

[UberMac]

...you will be ready

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/3BBB27E5BCC165BA87256A2B0064FFB4/$file/128bitPlbBus.pdf

<snip>

...pass out free dual core dual processor 2.8GHz mac minis - keep up :roll eyes:



*and thus my day was made*...that was a dream?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN!? WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT WAS A DREAM?! Get OUT of my house! NOW!

Uber

(nice 'tar Lacero, it gets better everyday!)

[Doctor Q]

You know what almost comes first in the keynote, don't you?

Sales figures!

What numbers will Steve announce to impress us this time? Does he ever mention the stock price?

[Randall]

The lack of elevator pics means only one THING, yeah...PowerBook G5 TOMORROW! YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!If by G5 you mean Core Duo then I agree. :p

[aussie_geek]

LOL. I was hoping for an updated video iPod, since I was about to get one today, but then realized I only have to wait excruciatingly one more day on iPod news. Do you think Steve would surprise us all and come out with a new 6G iPod?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

Dammit!! Are you trying to test me Lacero? :p :D

F@#* iPods!! Sixth generation or otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


aussie_geek

[2nyRiggz]

no new ipods...damn Steve i still need time to soak up my nano:rolleyes:


Bless

[Bonte]

How about this, not Apple selling the plasma's but other big name company's bundling there plasma's with the mini. Plausible and the plasma rumors would fit in perfectly.

[Peace]

I can see it already....

No sleep for this boy tonite..

[Arcus]

2.8Ghz MacMini? I would be Soooooo at the apple store after work its not even funny.

[jinzo012]

I AM SOOOOO EXCITED!1!1!1!
I SWEAR I'M ABOUT TO PISS MY PANTS!1!1!1!

c'mon Steve give us something good.

[spine]

LOL. I was hoping for an updated video iPod, since I was about to get one today, but then realized I only have to wait excruciatingly one more day on iPod news. Do you think Steve would surprise us all and come out with a new 6G iPod?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

Geez I hope not. I just got mine.

[Stella]

The lack of elevator pics means only one THING, yeah...PowerBook G5 TOMORROW! YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!

G5s are so yesterday. I want a G6.
:-D

[UberMac]

How about this, not Apple selling the plasma's but other big name company's bundling there plasma's with the mini. Plausible and the plasma rumors would fit in perfectly.
I don't think Apple would go that route personally - where would they be sold? Apple Store or a *insert plasma company retailers name here* shop? Although it's certainly a nice idea! I think that it would somewhat go against Apple's latest ideas and such...

Uber

[bdesign7]

Yeah, I hope there's no new iPods, I just bought mine and the last day for returns is on the 13th, and I'll be at MWSF! Unless they'll let me return it to a different store...hmmm.

[nagromme]

2.8Ghz... yeah right. IMO the Mac Mini only needs 3 things to be perfected:

7200rpm HD with larger storage
At least an ATI 9600/X300
Bluetooth, Airport and a Superdrive as standard on all models.

It would also be nice if they introduced a high-end model of the Mac Mini with the same specs as the iMac (X600, 160GB standard, double-layer Superdrive, DDR2 RAM). The Cube returns :)

Actually, the should keep the low-end model cheap, and so it should NOT include things like wireless and DVD burning standard. A lot of people don't need those things, and the Mac Mini is the entry model for them. Keep those frills optional.

I wouldn't even object to integrated Intel graphics. That wouldn't meet MY needs, but it would meet a LOT of people's. Just price it lower.

[balamw]

I think Apple will announce they have partnered with one of the Japanese LCD/Plasma screen manufacturers to bundle a Mac Mini with one of their screens.

Apple concentrates on the media center, Japanese TV MFG concentrates on the TV. Both win and both do what they do best.
That's also my take on the 42" and 50" rumors. If there's any truth to them. Maybe some HDTV vendor has new screens that have some kind of special connection capability to the new mini, i.e. a built-in "dock" or bracket to hold the new Mac mini.

That said. I do hope there may be some truth to the rumor since I am considering a 42"+ display purchase sometime this year.

B

[jinzo012]

Does he ever mention the stock price?

He did once while demoing Dashboard.

[Stella]

I haven't heard of any 'mystery' shipments arriving at Apple Stores like other MWSF.


Perhaps there will be nothing. A complete bore-fest, or, '<product>' will ship 1 February'

[Trench]

Could it be that the mac mini does not have the Yonah chip. Intel is also releasing new Pentium D dual-core chips 2.8GHz to 3.4GHz on the 65-nanometer manufacturing process.

[Yvan256]

G5s are so yesterday. I want a G6.
:-D

Here you go. (http://www.pontiac.com/g6/)

[Porchland]

How about this, not Apple selling the plasma's but other big name company's bundling there plasma's with the mini. Plausible and the plasma rumors would fit in perfectly.

I think Steve Jobs has enough money that he does not need to sell his plasma for beer money.

[nagromme]

Could it be that the mac mini does not have the Yonah chip. Intel is also releasing new Pentium D dual-core chips 2.8GHz to 3.4GHz on the 65-nanometer manufacturing process.
I expect the Mac Mini to get Core Solo, not Core Duo, at least on the lowest models (which means they wouldn't ship yet).

But not Pentiums. Pentiums generate a lot of heat compared to Core, and the Mac Mini is designed to be both small and quiet. So heat would be a problem.

[p0intblank]

Ah, the expo is almost here! :D I've been awaiting this day for a while now, but haven't we all? Tomorrow morning shall be very exciting! I'll also be posting a huge update in my blog, as I have already done for CES.

Come ooooooon, Intel!

[BlizzardBomb]

Actually, the should keep the low-end model cheap, and so it should NOT include things like wireless and DVD burning standard. A lot of people don't need those things, and the Mac Mini is the entry model for them. Keep those frills optional.

I wouldn't even object to integrated Intel graphics. That wouldn't meet MY needs, but it would meet a LOT of people's. Just price it lower.

I did think about this for a while and I wouldn't be annoyed if the keep the Mac Mini nice and basic. However, I feel that now Intel chips are being introduced, comparisons are obviously going to be made. For &#163;440, Dell sell a computer with a 16x DVD+/-RW AND a 17" LCD monitor (1280 x 1024) with a keyboard and mouse. It's not asking for too much is it?

Also, I too wouldn't be bothered if Intel Integrated was included on the low-end, but at least an 9600/X300 for the regular model.

[2nyRiggz]

98% of the MR peepz will be sad tomorrow if Stevie boy comes out and only announce new shuffles and front row software for all macs....well at least i will pick up the front row.


Bless

[ZorPrime]

Plasma... too fragile, too heavy, LOW resolution... and what market is clamoring for this? Bad idea... Plasma is going to quickly go the way of the dodo. Why pay $2000+ for a monitor with a native resolution no better than SVGA and is extremely susceptible to burn-in?

Do you consider 1080p low resolution (http://www.cnet.com/4520-10602_1-5619550-1.html?tag=brand)? :eek:

[MacsRgr8]

It will be 6 pm over here....

Gotta wait the whole day!! aargghhhh :(

But, we're staying at work with a couple of colleagues:
1) enough coke?
2) enough pizza's?
3) enough Macs to handle all those refreshes....?

BTW...

Will MRChat be online?

[arturo]

Everybody talks about Intel on PowerBook, what about one last version of PowerBook using PowerPC dual core G4, I think Freescale released that chips several months ago, isn't?

[Randall]

Do you consider 1080p low resolution (http://www.cnet.com/4520-10602_1-5619550-1.html?tag=brand)? :eek:No, but I consider being highly suseptable to burn-in a fatal flaw of Plasma displays. I expect DLP or LCD to reign champion of HDTV, until something even better somes along, like holographic projection of course.

[MacsRgr8]

Do you consider 1080p low resolution (http://www.cnet.com/4520-10602_1-5619550-1.html?tag=brand)? :eek:


:eek:

Gimme gimme gimme!

[nagromme]

It will be 6 pm over here....

Gotta wait the whole day!! aargghhhh :(
Ouch! Thank goodness I only have to wait until noon in my time zone.

Hmmmm......

[Randall]

Everybody talks about Intel on PowerBook, what about one last version of PowerBook using PowerPC dual core G4, I think Freescale released that chips several months ago, isn't?Haven't they milked that bastard of a processor enough already? Time to let sleeping dogs lie out to pasture. Bring me my intel based PowerBook. :cool:

[Lacero]

Wish I was in the UK right now - they are ahead of us by +8 hours. :o

Come on, Earth, spin faster!
Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[Kiff]

Just to confirm that a 2.8Ghz Mini isn't going to happen:

The fastest Yonah available is only 2.16Ghz!
http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/pricelist/


I'm rooting for the new Powerbooks, hopefully the Mac community can welcome a new member soon! :)

[Randall]

Wish I was in the UK right now - they are ahead of us by +8 hours. :o They also have to wait just as long as us to see MWSF. I think they have it worse actually, because instead of waiting until 12:00pm EST tomorrow, they have to wait until 6:00pm GMT. (18:00) ouch!

You do realize this right? I mean, the basic concept of time still applies to the UK...

[SiliconAddict]

*Twitches madly like some junkie coming down, in the corner as he waits and hopes for a PowerBook update*

I haven't been this anxious about an event since I was a kid hoping that I was going to get the Star Wars crew transport for Christmas. (The big long ship in Empire.) I feel like an idiot since I know there is a better then 50/50 chance that no PowerBooks will show up tomorrow. Do you think if I have milk and cookies delivered to Steve on stage it would help?

Seriously though. I've viewed several MWSF's and this one is the most anticipated by many. It really shows the state of Apple's laptop line.

[bigandy]

2.8GHz dual core Yonah in the mini? Yeah right :rolleyes:


thats EXACTLY what i thought!


although, it'd be great to be proved wrong :)

[Butler Trumpet]

Those rumors are some serious b.s. What about the new intel PowerBooks? Nothing mentioned about them at all in the "rumor roundup". Also, there is no way in h3ll we'll see a Core Duo in the Mac Mini. You people are out of your minds if you think that the Core Duo will find it's way into the Mini in any form. The mini is an entry level machine, and it won't get professional grade components. Frankly, I don't see the Core Duo finding it's way into any platform other then PowerBook. Just stop and look at all of the Core Duo PC notebooks announced last week at CES. ALL of them are PROFESSIONAL grade notebooks.


there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks.... what would they do then? replace that with "here are the even newer powerbooks" its just not going to happen... dont even worry about thinking about it

[generik]

If you think you'll see an intel mac mini with a core duo tomorrow, then you must be new here too. (Earth that is) :rolleyes:

Lol, not just earth.. the company that is known for delivering less for more suddenly doing the reverse?!

That's new :)

[Ashapalan]

They also have to wait just as long as us to see MWSF. I think they have it worse actually, because instead of waiting until 9:00am tomorrow, they have to wait until 6:00pm their time. (18:00) ouch!

Although it is fairly good for us students, what with not having to suddenly become...ill.

Plus, Biology exam tommorow, followed by a chemistry one on wednesday, suffice to say, as fate would have it, i wont be able to find out what's been released until wednesday lunchtime.

absolutly sucks :(

[adamfilip]

Apple won't outclass the quad G5 that easy, a dual top model is a possibility. They plan to enter the Intel business with a BANG so we can expect the unexpected. :)

what makes you think it would outclass the dual core g5s. its not all about mhz

[eVolcre]

You guys are bastards! :mad:

I've been following each thread and staying calm and now --- I can't resist and HAVE TO JOIN THE PARTY.

So, I'm probably going to be glued to this chair chatting with y'all about this event. No work done.

(bastards meant in a nice way of course :D )

Dammit, I'm more excited than CHRISTMAS this year!!!

Silicon, why the 50/50 chance of no powerbooks>? I knwo it's been overshadowed by this plasma thing (which I do NOT think will happen) but I didn't see any clear signs that no powerbooks would be out.

My gut - 13.1 WS iBook AND PB tomorrow. 15 and 17 inch powerbokos out by March. What say?

eV


*Twitches madly like some junkie coming down, in the corner as he waits and hopes for a PowerBook update*

I haven't been this anxious about an event since I was a kid hoping that I was going to get the Star Wars crew transport for Christmas. (The big long ship in Empire.) I feel like an idiot since I know there is a better then 50/50 chance that no PowerBooks will show up tomorrow. Do you think if I have milk and cookies delivered to Steve on stage it would help?

Seriously though. I've viewed several MWSF's and this one is the most anticipated by many. It really shows the state of Apple's laptop line.

[Randall]

*Twitches madly like some junkie coming down, in the corner as he waits and hopes for a PowerBook update*

I haven't been this anxious about an event since I was a kid hoping that I was going to get the Star Wars crew transport for Christmas. (The big long ship in Empire.) I feel like an idiot since I know there is a better then 50/50 chance that no PowerBooks will show up tomorrow. Do you think if I have milk and cookies delivered to Steve on stage it would help?

Seriously though. I've viewed several MWSF's and this one is the most anticipated by many. It really shows the state of Apple's laptop line.Relax Jonny. You'll get your Core Duo PowerBook tomorrow. All the G4s need to go away now.

And whoever has the logic of going by Apple's website to see which things will be coming out tomorrow needs to be slapped. :D

[davidChief]

I think the new Shuffle is a dead cert.

Amazon UK is Apple's biggest seller of iPods in the UK and it is currently completely sold out of 1Gb Shuffles and give no indication of when they expect more stock. Normally when they are sold out of a product they give a short description of what the situation is. For the 1Gb shuffle there is just a white space where you'd expect to see this.

As for the other stuff, apparently the sales of the current Mac line up are holding up fairly well so they might concentrate their efforts elsewhere. Although I'd love to see a really speedy Intel powered Mac of somekind.

Also, the media centre concept is something I'd buy. The Windows ones look good but are quite expensive and don't have the magic of an Apple design.

The uber 42 inch TV sounds cool but I would imagine the (huge) price would really restrict sales.

[bdesign7]

Wait, the keynote is at 9 est? That can't be right. That makes it 6am in SF. It's 9am Pacific time, right?

[eVolcre]

What if the new line ISN'T a powerbook at all? Could be called something else since it's a new architecture and direction. So -- the current ad would remain the NEWEST powerbooks, while the new ones are better but ... NOT powerbooks. :)

Yeah, I'm stretching, but I want a 17" PD Dammi! Actually, for my needs, I would even go with a 19" if they offered one


there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks.... what would they do then? replace that with "here are the even newer powerbooks" its just not going to happen... dont even worry about thinking about it

[iindigo]

I really hope he announces something that pwns the pants off all of us, whether it be Mac, iPod, or otherwise.

I wonder if he'll mention anything on Leopard's status... probably not, but it would be cool if he did. I'm itching to see what they're planning to include in it.

[nagromme]

Am I the only one who thinks the "new Shuffle" and "42-inch display" rumors might be one and the same?


I haven't been this anxious about an event since I was a kid hoping that I was going to get the Star Wars crew transport for Christmas. (The big long ship in Empire.) I feel like an idiot since I know there is a better then 50/50 chance that no PowerBooks will show up tomorrow.
But if not tomorrow, then soon...

And I DID get the Rebel Transport for Christmas :) Still have it in a closet.


there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks.... what would they do then? replace that with "here are the even newer powerbooks" its just not going to happen... dont even worry about thinking about it
Apple has been known at times to keep the "NEW" badge on a product for its entire lifetime--right up until the next "NEW" version. Can't read too much into that.

[MacsRgr8]

All past Steve Jobs Keynotes have been so highly anticipated....

< * shakes head * > ...I...can't...stand...it...anymore...

What will be left for WWDC '06?

Oh wait...

Leopard demo
Intel PowerBooks
Quad G5's accross the board

..... < * fainted * > ......

[Randall]

there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks.... what would they do then? replace that with "here are the even newer powerbooks" its just not going to happen... dont even worry about thinking about itUmmmm... since when does Apple's website the day before MWSF hold any water as to what they'll be unveiling at MWSF tomorrow?? :rolleyes:

[davidChief]

What if the new line ISN'T a powerbook at all? Could be called something else since it's a new architecture and direction. So -- the current ad would remain the NEWEST powerbooks, while the new ones are better but ... NOT powerbooks. :)

I've been wondering when they might start re-using the iPod brand elsewhere... for example an iPod Laptop!

[Ashapalan]

roughly how long after the live keynote will a recording be posted on apple.com?

[liketom]

It may just be me on this one ( too many beers tonight ) but iDisk seems to be TWICE the speed as normal

as a backup i'm downloading all 600 ish MB of my idisk files over night , not that i don't trust apple:rolleyes:


Burrrrp !:p

[davidChief]

Ummmm... since when does Apple's website the day before MWSF hold any water as to what they'll be unveiling at MWSF tomorrow?? :rolleyes:

I think they've caught onto that one! :) But checking the major distributors (i.e. Amazon UK) can yield some more interesting results.:D

[Doctor Q]

there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks....Maybe that's the reasoning they want you to use. It's a trick!

Personally, however, I don't expect us to be lining up to buy new PowerBooks by this time tomorrow.

[EGT]

there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks.... what would they do then? replace that with "here are the even newer powerbooks" its just not going to happen... dont even worry about thinking about it

It could. ;) Then those who ordered "new powerbooks" would get "even newer powerbooks".

I'd like even newer powerbooks! (not getting my hopes up)

[Some_Big_Spoon]

Good point, though they did update the TiBook 2 months after a previous update a while back, so it's possible. I mean, who would have thought they'd do a major rev to the imac G5 so soon after the last update, so it's possible I guess.

They could put the (crap) screens from the current ones into the new PB's and recycle some components.. there's no telling how many PB's they've actually built, and there will be a need for legacy machines (like the G4 towers they kept around that booted OS 9 native for a couple years.
They're already taking a bath on the laptops they have now, so why not just go with the big update and write off the more than half decade of moto's disinterest.

It's going to be interesting.

there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks.... what would they do then? replace that with "here are the even newer powerbooks" its just not going to happen... dont even worry about thinking about it

[digitalbiker]

Everybody talks about Intel on PowerBook, what about one last version of PowerBook using PowerPC dual core G4, I think Freescale released that chips several months ago, isn't?

Personally I think this would be a great update but it is probably too late.

I mean now with all of the Intel hype, and with new intel ibooks/mac minis near or here, Steve would be booed off of the stage if he announced a G4 PB even if it was a dual core.

What gets me though is all this intel hype! The yonah is nice but it's strength is low power and dual core. If you have pro software that is not optimised for multi-threaded processing and makes extensive use of Alti-vec code the Yonah is going to suck.

The yonah's clock speed is not much higher than the current G4's and for single threaded applications there isn't much performance boost. Also too much is made of the FSB, the G4 167mhz bus utilizes a large cache and is full speed. The Yonah 667 mhz FSB is a quad pumped 167 which means the fastest speed is only 167 mhz if the data chunk is smaller than maximum cache. i.e. there is not much of a performance hit for most pro applications on the G4.

I can personally tell you that running a current 2.2 ghz Pentium-M laptop side by side with my 1.67ghz G4 PB the performance is tit for tat. Photoshop startup, filtering, editting, jpeg compression, etc. etc. There is barely any difference and yes the Pentium-M has power-saving off and is performance mode.

[Bonte]

I don't think Apple would go that route personally - where would they be sold? Apple Store or a *insert plasma company retailers name here* shop? Although it's certainly a nice idea! I think that it would somewhat go against Apple's latest ideas and such...

Uber

Like cars bundled with iPods? Every big plasma dealer has iPods in stock, so why not sell the new mini's with the same retailers? Its a big opportunity for extra sales channels so i don't think Apple can just say 'njet', especially stockholders wise.

[reflex]

He forgot the $250 price tag.

I didn't even dare mention the price of the mini in the same sentence :)

[EGT]

checking the major distributors (i.e. Amazon UK) can yield some more interesting results.:D

Hmmm. I'm thinking we're going to see some upgraded portables tomorrow.

[runninmac]

Hmm I just skipped 5 pages of people's opinions (which i plan on reading later, [oh i just love reading there opinions]) but i bet the 2.8 was ment to be 1 dual core yonha (sp?) with 1.8 Ghz core. Oh I want wait! Im itchin!

[Randall]

Oh brother. Everybody has their own little ideas as to what will be unveiled tomorrow, and somehow tomorrow evening everybody will be claiming that they were right. Hilarious :D :p

[deputy_doofy]

Everybody talks about Intel on PowerBook, what about one last version of PowerBook using PowerPC dual core G4, I think Freescale released that chips several months ago, isn't?

Yes.... TWO chips fighting for bandwidth on a 167MHz bus. lol
I'm not making fun of you, Arturo, just the G4 and its lousy future.

[Bonte]

there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks....

Maybe that's the reasoning they want you to use. It's a trick!

For as far i remember the powerbook ad was not on the site the last few months, Apple is re-advertising it. To warn us not to get our hopes up high or a trick, a decoy? ;)

[Randall]

Yes.... TWO chips fighting for bandwidth on a 167MHz bus. lol
I'm not making fun of you, Arturo, just the G4 and its lousy future.What future? The G4 is DEAD. :p

[Bakey]

Here you go. (http://www.pontiac.com/g6/)

Actually that convertible looks really rather nice, somewhat Audi/Saab-esque me thinks!

Whoops, sorry... Yes MWSF - thoroughly looking forward to it!!!! :D

[deputy_doofy]

Good point, though they did update the TiBook 2 months after a previous update a while back, so it's possible. I mean, who would have thought they'd do a major rev to the imac G5 so soon after the last update, so it's possible I guess.

They could put the (crap) screens from the current ones into the new PB's and recycle some components.. there's no telling how many PB's they've actually built, and there will be a need for legacy machines (like the G4 towers they kept around that booted OS 9 native for a couple years.
They're already taking a bath on the laptops they have now, so why not just go with the big update and write off the more than half decade of moto's disinterest.

It's going to be interesting.

I also think it's possible, though unlikely, that they could release a 12" Powerbook with the Intel chip. After all, it was neglected. I'd consider one.

[liketom]

come on there must be a photo or something of ilife 06 out there already !

google is not my friend when i'm searching on the eve of macworld :mad:

:D

[arby]

I'm building a list of sites that are offering MacWorld coverage .. please add your suggestions:

www.ipod-tracker.com

Looking forward to tomorrow!

[karthi]

I am hoping for some faster intel mac mini, which is comparable to iMac G5, so that I can buy one right now. I already waited long enough to upgrade my iMac. I do not like to wait till June to buy the intel iMac.

[liketom]

I'm building a list of sites that are offering MacWorld coverage .. please add your suggestions:

www.ipod-tracker.com

Looking forward to tomorrow!
www.macrumors.com :D
www.engadget.com

[Bakey]

Wish I was in the UK right now - they are ahead of us by +8 hours. :o

Come on, Earth, spin faster!
Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

Eh! Huh!! What...!?! :confused:

[eVolcre]

Ehat kind of coverage? I thought it wasn't going to be a live broadcast?

I'm building a list of sites that are offering MacWorld coverage .. please add your suggestions:

www.ipod-tracker.com

Looking forward to tomorrow!

[eme jota ce]

Yes... my credit card is waiting & willing ;)


I bought a mac mini for my entertainment center in November... sold it on Sunday (Jan 8th) with big hopes for Tuesday's announcement.

C'mon Steve... my credit card is ready, too.

[SiliconAddict]

there will not be any powerbook updates... look at apple's website... they still have an ad for the New Powerbooks.... what would they do then? replace that with "here are the even newer powerbooks" its just not going to happen... dont even worry about thinking about it

:rolleyes:
Everyone mark this post. So we know who to laugh at first. Just in case he's wrong.

[Chundles]

It will be 6 pm over here....

Gotta wait the whole day!! aargghhhh :(

But, we're staying at work with a couple of colleagues:
1) enough coke?
2) enough pizza's?
3) enough Macs to handle all those refreshes....?

BTW...

Will MRChat be online?

Poor, poor diddums.

It will be 4am on the 11th here when the Keynote starts. Only people worse off are the Kiwis although it might even be daylight over there on the 11th when this thing kicks off.

It's gonna be a long, long, long day.....

[ldenman]

i can't wait for the event!
also, macworld is podcasting after every day!
i really can't wait for that!!
HAKjgjaghkajghj!!! <----- me being excited!

[SiliconAddict]

Silicon, why the 50/50 chance of no powerbooks>?

Because my luck sucks? :( :D

[robinmurphy]

I'm building a list of sites that are offering MacWorld coverage .. please add your suggestions:

www.ipod-tracker.com

Looking forward to tomorrow!

Tip would be look for european sites. During the autumn special iPod events there was no wifi at the actual event, however, at the BBC in London where the event was streamed to European press members, there was access to the internet.

From what I can tell keynote is again begin streamed to the BBC in London for European press. So my bet would be they will offer online coverage.

[Butler Trumpet]

:rolleyes:
Everyone mark this post. So we know who to laugh at first. Just in case he's wrong.


Well played... very well played :)

and yeah... I guess there is a chance... but, I dont wanna get my hopes up... not that it would matter with the $74 i have in my bank account :rolleyes:

[liketom]

Because my luck sucks? :( :D
:D how very true , happens to me all the time

[Object-X]

Speaking of rumors, who has pics of the convention center? There are usually pics of hidden banners and covered merchandise. Come on people! We need the inside scoop here.

[Chundles]

Aaaaaaah! Hot Potato, Orchestra Stalls, Puck will make amends!

I'll twist your nose if you'll twist mine.

Wanna coffee? This is going to be a late one.

[MacsRgr8]

Poor, poor diddums.

It will be 4am on the 11th here when the Keynote starts. Only people worse off are the Kiwis although it might even be daylight over there on the 11th when this thing kicks off.

It's gonna be a long, long, long day.....

So.. staying up, or setting the alarm? :p

Does anybody know if the MRChat will be reporting live??

[Mal]

Lol, not just earth.. the company that is known for delivering less for more suddenly doing the reverse?!

That's new :)

What company are you talking about here? The iPods have gone up in price only one time, and yet the feature set is huge compared to the original. The iMac's have dropped in price overall, and yet the features are again improved. iBooks, PowerBooks, PowerMacs, ditto.

When has Apple ever dropped features and added prices?

jW

[puckhead193]

Do you think apple will make a statement about finally reaching 3 ghz

edit - do you think apple will release more TV shows/networks?

[davidChief]

Speaking of rumors, who has pics of the convention center? There are usually pics of hidden banners and covered merchandise. Come on people! We need the inside scoop here.

http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/some_set_up_shots_from_inside_the_moscone_center/

[yankeefan24]

Those rumors are some serious b.s. What about the new intel PowerBooks? Nothing mentioned about them at all in the "rumor roundup". Also, there is no way in h3ll we'll see a Core Duo in the Mac Mini. You people are out of your minds if you think that the Core Duo will find it's way into the Mini in any form. The mini is an entry level machine, and it won't get professional grade components. Frankly, I don't see the Core Duo finding it's way into any platform other then PowerBook. Just stop and look at all of the Core Duo PC notebooks announced last week at CES. ALL of them are PROFESSIONAL grade notebooks.

couldn't have said it better myself. Unfortunatly, i have to be in school until 4 EST tomorrow. The keynote is at noon. If they do release powerbooks, lets hope they rnt sold out by then.

[digitalbiker]

Oh brother. Everybody has their own little ideas as to what will be unveiled tomorrow, and somehow tomorrow evening everybody will be claiming that they were right. Hilarious :D :p

Randall you must be a newbie because that will not happen.

After the keynote, MacRumors becomes whiner central. Every disappointed Tom, Dick, and Harry, is ranting about what a disaster the keynote was and how Apple should have done this or done that.

The rest of the posts will be people posting "Mine ships in 4 weeks".

Then we will get the whiners about the late shipping dates.

Then will come the round of posts about received my new "insert Apple computere here" today by FedEx.

It is inevitable! Hardly any bandwidth will go to gloaters about accuracy of post, mainly because most of them will be wrong!:D

[xnu]

With expectations running so high, the only possiblity is that Steve comes out at the beginning with the 6th generation video iPod and then proceeds with "one more thing"© and announces the 7th generation video iPod which is to replace the 6th, thereby fooling all rumor sites. Ah crud I gave it away.

[bigandy]

Relax Jonny. You'll get your Core Duo PowerBook tomorrow. All the G4s need to go away now.

And whoever has the logic of going by Apple's website to see which things will be coming out tomorrow needs to be slapped. :D


agreed. the G4s need to die tomorrow. all of them. that would be entering the Intel market with a bang!

Solo iBook, Mac Mini
Duo PowerBook.

Sorted.


And, actually, I think EVERYONE needs a slap - i think everyone, including me, are getting far too excited :D:D:D:D:D

[toneloco2881]

Because my luck sucks? :( :D
Don't worry. I'm in the exact same position as you. Infact, I've always enjoyed reading your posts because you seemed to posess that same irrational desperation as I:):D

The last two Macworld's I huddled around my computer refreshing the Apple Store incessantly waiting for the fabled powerbook g5. I finally came to my senses and purchased a 15" powerbook last march, only to sell it in september, in anticipation for the mactels.

I can't tell you how happy I'm going to be tomorrow when I load the Apple page and see a new powerbook with core duo............and it's black!! No inside info, but if i say it enough times to myself then it has to be true..........right?

[Platform]

2.8 DC Yonah....yeah right :rolleyes:

I just got an iMac so, well add on's and updates, FrontRow 2 etc. :D

[eVolcre]

Here I'll say it too ...

"see a new powerbook with core duo............and it's black!! No inside info, but if i say it enough times to myself then it has to be true..........right?[/"

Man, I don't think I can sleep tonight. Although falling asleep is about 6 hours less of waiting. Maybe I'll down some scotch and sleep and not wake up for 15 hours eh? Yeah ... that mnight work


Don't worry. I'm in the exact same position as you. Infact, I've always enjoyed reading your posts because you seemed to posess that same irrational desperation as I:):D

The last two Macworld's I huddled around my computer refreshing the Apple Store incessantly waiting for the fabled powerbook g5. I finally came to my senses and purchased a 15" powerbook last march, only to sell it in september, in anticipation for the mactels.

I can't tell you how happy I'm going to be tomorrow when I load the Apple page and see a new powerbook with core duo............and it's black!! No inside info, but if i say it enough times to myself then it has to be true..........right?

[arturo]

Actually that convertible looks really rather nice, somewhat Audi/Saab-esque me thinks!

Whoops, sorry... Yes MWSF - thoroughly looking forward to it!!!! :D

I think Pontiac G6 uses the same GM platform like Saab 95 and Opel Vectra, ok, ok, get focus, all I want is a Mac Mini with a Blue-ray drive, remote control and a updated FrontRow application for the HDTV and a BMW with Mac Mini Integrated on the Navigation System :)

[bigandy]

Randall you must be a newbie because that will not happen.

After the keynote, MacRumors becomes whiner central. Every disappointed Tom, Dick, and Harry, is ranting about what a disaster the keynote was and how Apple should have done this or done that.

The rest of the posts will be people posting "Mine ships in 4 weeks".

Then we will get the whiners about the late shipping dates.

Then will come the round of posts about received my new "insert Apple computere here" today by FedEx.

It is inevitable! Hardly any bandwidth will go to gloaters about accuracy of post, mainly because most of them will be wrong!:D



well, i'd actually thought that, especially last year, everyone seemed generally a lot happier after the SteveNote - especially after stuff like the MacMini intro.

what makes people upset here is the contiuned arsing around with the iPod (i think it's totally justified, because it's done so much, and continues to, for apple), and the lack of a G5 powerbook, etc. Seriously, that whole powerbook thing angered me to the point i wanted to throw mine at the next MR user i found. with a pp970 sellotaped to it.

:rolleyes:

[Chundles]

So.. staying up, or setting the alarm? :p

Does anybody know if the MRChat will be reporting live??

Not entirely sure just yet, been thinking of staying fairly quiet today (not hard, it's hot and humid as all get up here) and then staying up for the build-up and MR's coverage.

I think we'll see iLife '06, iTunes 6.1, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.4, Intel Mac Minis and Intel Powerbooks (iBooks to come later with the single core version of Yonah), something iPod-ish - be it new shuffles or some Apple branded accessories that we all will have to buy to feel fulfilled and something none of us have really thought of but has been hinted at for the past few months.

[Bonte]

agreed. the G4s need to die tomorrow. all of them. that would be entering the Intel market with a bang!

There is no other way, all G4's get upgraded to Intel or no Macintel tomorrow! Steve won't be showing off new Macintels and a speed bumped G4 powerbook, not going to happen.

[SiliconAddict]

Speaking of rumors, who has pics of the convention center? There are usually pics of hidden banners and covered merchandise. Come on people! We need the inside scoop here.

One of the possibilities for new hardware this year could be that Apple has had enough of the leaks and is implementing new security procedures. As an example we don't even have a rough description of a theoretical iBook. Its possible that Apple took extraordinary measures with the iBook, PowerBook, and Mac Mini this year to insure that secrecy is maintained. AS such I wouldn't be at all surprised by the lack of convention center information. We are in blackout conditions people. Apple will shoot to kill anyone entering an elevator. :D


Randall you must be a newbie because that will not happen.

After the keynote, MacRumors becomes whiner central. Every disappointed Tom, Dick, and Harry, is ranting about what a disaster the keynote was and how Apple should have done this or done that.

The rest of the posts will be people posting "Mine ships in 4 weeks".



Personally I think 2 week. If Intel gets their act together with providing the chips in a timely fashion I see no reason, other then other exotic hardware OLED displays :o ;) , why the hardware couldn't ship by end of January.

[Object-X]

:rolleyes:
Everyone mark this post. So we know who to laugh at first. Just in case he's wrong.

I don't think he's wrong. Powerbooks will arrive for the developers conference. I doubt seriously they will announce Intel iBooks at the same time as Powerbooks; both will be big announcements, unless they try to market them together, but that doesn't seem too likely.

Apple never annouces very much at these events. Every time there are a dozen differnt rumors for hardware and software and Apple might annouce four of them. My picks:

Review of sales figures
New Shuffel or lower capacity Nano to replace them
iLife 06
Intel iBooks
Intel mini's. (no media Mini, not yet at least)

*maybe a peek at Leapord

I think they will announce a media Mini along with whatever download (rental) service at a special event in about a month or two from now.

[reflex]

Could it be that the mac mini does not have the Yonah chip. Intel is also releasing new Pentium D dual-core chips 2.8GHz to 3.4GHz on the 65-nanometer manufacturing process.

Way too hot for the mini ... I want it to be as close to silent as it can be :)

[Chundles]

Man, I don't think I can sleep tonight. Although falling asleep is about 6 hours less of waiting. Maybe I'll down some scotch and sleep and not wake up for 15 hours eh? Yeah ... that mnight work

Man, it is true. Stop looking for the answer and it will find you.

Booze!! Why didn't I think of that before? I'm off to the pub this afternoon for a bit of a piss up and I might get some for the walk home and the wait till 4am tomorrow morning.

[VanNess]

My crystal ball tells me the following:

1) Ample gushing regarding holiday sales of new the new iPod line-up (nano and video), music store downloads, video downloads, gift cards, etc. Probably more video content providers jumping onboard iTunes.

2) More gushing about sales of new iMac with highlights of worshipping reviews

3) And yet more gushing regarding Tiger adoption, including current installed base figures and Tiger only apps, with some puffery about Aperture at this point.

4) A comical look at Vista, and then...

5) Preview of at least some of the planned, stunning new features of OS X 10.5 "Leopard" showing that, even with Vista, Microsoft is still looking at Apple's tail lights OS-wise, with an affirmation for it's release to coincide with the release of Vista.

6) iLife 06 with iWeb, a "groundbreaking" easy to use web page building app that easily incorporates media from the rest of the iLife suite.

7) iWork with Numbers. Building even further on the successor to Appleworks, Numbers bows as a spreadsheet "for the rest of us;" template driven design revolutionizing ease of use for generating typical consumer uses such as home finance, databases for collections, and so on.

8) Back to gushing, this time about progress with the Intel switch. Things have gone amazing well both with Intel and developer acceptance for building dual binaries, far beyond expectations. Announcement that OS X Tiger and all of it's included apps such as Safari, Mail, etc., as well as iLife 06, and iWork are now all dual binaries.

7) So, anything available for the Intel binary half of the Apple's software suite of dual binaries to run on? Introduces new Intel-based Mac mini, and maybe...iBooks. If iBooks are introduced, the form factor goes HD ready wide-screen and small, not too small, but smaller than the present form factor and still be practical as an everyday notebook.

8) Keeping in the realm of cool and small, introduces successor to iPod Shuffle, something Apple had started working on since "the day the original Shuffle was introduced last year"

9) After faux end of keynote, there's one more thing...

And it's the all-new movie rental store. Designed as the first real-world alternative to renting DVD's, the Movie store will use newly enhanced iDisk technology already integrated into OS X to store high quality movies where they can be instantly viewed (but not downloaded). No waiting, no hours wasted on long downloads, no trips to the DVD rental store, no need to return anything. It will "revolutionize" the way we watch movies, as the Music store revolutionized the way we purchased and listen to music . Integrated, of course, into front row, which will now ship on all Macs. .Mac subscription not required (assuming it follows the al la carte approach of the Music store). Most folks prefer to buy their songs, but most folks prefer to rent movies. Maybe an option to purchase a movie as well, but the crystal ball is very fuzzy here.

Well, we'll see. Don't be surprised if you a see a slightly used crystal ball for sale on eBay this Wednesday.:eek:

[eVolcre]

The more I think of it, the more I think booze is the answer. See, if you're drinking its a lot of fun so I will be loooking at women and thinking of DIFFERENT 'Apples' ... ;)

The, get really wasted so I sleep in till 11 AM. Wake up for a cup of coffee and booya!! It's keynote time

All this waiting and discussion in this thread is only gonna be nerve wracking


Man, it is true. Stop looking for the answer and it will find you.

Booze!! Why didn't I think of that before? I'm off to the pub this afternoon for a bit of a piss up and I might get some for the walk home and the wait till 4am tomorrow morning.

[reflex]

For £440, Dell sell a computer with a 16x DVD+/-RW AND a 17" LCD monitor (1280 x 1024) with a keyboard and mouse. It's not asking for too much is it?

But nothing that compares to the mini ... and I don't mean the specs :D

[sisyphus]

I'm building a list of sites that are offering MacWorld coverage .. please add your suggestions:

www.ipod-tracker.com

Looking forward to tomorrow!

www.macdailynews.com
www.macrumors.com

Ciao.

[kiwi-in-uk]

... Wanna coffee? This is going to be a late one.

Or an early one.
Methinks I will sleep, start work early, and watch coverage on the 2nd monitor.
Oh yeah - and line up the coffees.

[mandoman]

I don't think he's wrong. Powerbooks will arrive for the developers conference. I doubt seriously they will announce Intel iBooks at the same time as Powerbooks; both will be big announcements, unless they try to market them together, but that doesn't seem too likely.

Apple never annouces very much at these events. Every time there are a dozen differnt rumors for hardware and software and Apple might annouce four of them. My picks:

Review of sales figures
New Shuffel or lower capacity Nano to replace them
iLife 06
Intel iBooks
Intel mini's. (no media Mini, not yet at least)

*maybe a peek at Leapord

I think they will announce a media Mini along with whatever download (rental) service at a special event in about a month or two from now.


I agree. Apple only announces a few products at these events. So, no powerbooks. There's usually 'one more thing' that is something entirely new though that is missing from your lineup...

[bryanc]

My crystal ball tells me the following:...

Thanks, VanNess. Now I don't have to worry about not having time to watch it tomorrow. Your prognostication sounds highly plausible to me, and I'll bet you're close to 90% accurate.

Can I borrow your time machine?

Cheers

[babuchan]

I wonder if there will be a video podcast of MWSF . . . .

[d00kie]

Well, I'm shopping for a new laptop so hopefully Apple releases a stunning Intel-powered iBook or PowerBook (or whatever they decide to call em come MWSF).

[DeSnousa]

The event is going to be at 3am on the 11th here is Brisbane (Australia). Oh well I'll awake to some awesome products.

[thedude110]

agreed. the G4s need to die tomorrow. all of them.


Are you threatening my G4 PB? :eek:

That's like threatening the love of my life, you know ... ;)

[Chundles]

Right, it's keynote time. I'd best call Steve, looks like he's forgotten. Again. This happened at the WWDC and the Paris Mac Expo. Actually he's been late for every event, pretty piss-poor CEO if you ask me.... ;)

[VanNess]

The more I think of it, the more I think booze is the answer.

Booze always works for necessary "insight" about what Apple is, without a shred of doubt, most certainly going to introduce at any given Macworld. On Tuesday, everybody has to sober up. :)

[SiliconAddict]

AHHHH NO POWERBOOKS!!!

PS- I foresee this thread becoming VERY long by the time tomorrow rolls around :D

[Chundles]

Booze always works for necessary "insight" about what Apple is, without a shred of doubt, most certainly going to introduce at any given Macworld. On Tuesday, everybody has to sober up. :)

But, but, it is Tuesday. I don't want to sober up!!

[Chip NoVaMac]

Please at least the new Mac mini with DVR be true. The sound processor on my projection TV just died. And with a Mac mini with DVR and a 30" LCD I would be one happy camper right now.

[nsjoker]

man, what a let-down. for some reason i thought the keynote was today... so i rushed home to MR to check out the new stuff and all i get is a countdown :cool:

[bigandy]

My crystal ball tells me the following:
7) So, anything available for the Intel binary half of the Apple's software suite of dual binaries to run on? Introduces new Intel-based Mac mini, and maybe...iBooks. If iBooks are introduced, the form factor goes HD ready wide-screen and small, not too small, but smaller than the present form factor and still be practical as an everyday notebook.

9) After faux end of keynote, there's one more thing...

And it's the all-new movie rental store. Designed as the first real-world alternative to renting DVD's, the Movie store will use newly enhanced iDisk technology already integrated into OS X to store high quality movies where they can be instantly viewed (but not downloaded). No waiting, no hours wasted on long downloads, no trips to the DVD rental store, no need to return anything. It will "revolutionize" the way we watch movies, as the Music store revolutionized the way we purchased and listen to music . Integrated, of course, into front row, which will now ship on all Macs. .Mac subscription not required (assuming it follows the al la carte approach of the Music store). Most folks prefer to buy their songs, but most folks prefer to rent movies. Maybe an option to purchase a movie as well, but the crystal ball is very fuzzy here.

Well, we'll see. Don't be surprised if you a see a slightly used crystal ball for sale on eBay this Wednesday.:eek:



yeah i'm seeing that a lot of that makes sense.... but, i've pointed out above the ones i don't agree with. i don't think they'll just push out one Intel based mac. I think they're going to "wow" everyone by releasing a pile of em, probably, iB, and MM (guess what they mean). and maybe the powerbook (would make me happier than seeing an intel mini :))

i think the Plasma thing may be right. if it's got a DVR in it it'll be a killer.

the movie store thing? yeah using iDisk tech, but no downloading? how the heck will that fly? it has to be iPoddable* to work methinks.


*please note i just copyrighted this word cause i've never seen it before and like it. ;) :rolleyes:

[lvmopt]

well, my iBook has been repaired 4 times. I hope Apple gets it right this time with solid, realiable, ibooks. I think they changed to Asus for motherboards this time from Quantum.:rolleyes:

[Mitch1984]

I'm going with the iBooks rumor for tommorrow.

[windowuser82]

Those rumors are some serious b.s. What about the new intel PowerBooks? Nothing mentioned about them at all in the "rumor roundup". Also, there is no way in h3ll we'll see a Core Duo in the Mac Mini. You people are out of your minds if you think that the Core Duo will find it's way into the Mini in any form. The mini is an entry level machine, and it won't get professional grade components. Frankly, I don't see the Core Duo finding it's way into any platform other then PowerBook. Just stop and look at all of the Core Duo PC notebooks announced last week at CES. ALL of them are PROFESSIONAL grade notebooks.


Drink your juice, Shelby.

:p

[doogle]

Ignoring the Macintosh side of things, and that iPod updates are almost impossible. I reckon that Apple will:

1. Open the iPod platform to third party makers - at least limited to widget making in the first instance. This will give a shot in the arm to the iPod world without having to release anything (other than a possible shuffle upgrade). Widgets for iPods makes a lot of sense.

2. Spin the iPod division off completely from Apple...while less likely they are going to have to do it someday.

3. We may even see new software and hardware announcements that make the iPod more central to the "hub" concept. Integrating .Mac, iTMS, DVR, Macintosh, FrontRow etc. wth each other.

[howesey]

How about this, not Apple selling the plasma's but other big name company's bundling there plasma's with the mini. Plausible and the plasma rumors would fit in perfectly.
Hehe, hope it would be a Fujitsu plasma.

I'm yet to see an LCD beat a plasma for quality.

Burn in, good plasmas are hard to burn in, and if they leave a mark, they go after a minute or so. LCD's can be worse, they can burn in for hours (my iMac LCD is awful for this, I can read the menu bar for a few hours while playing games. :S

[SirThom]

My predictions for the keynote:


Mac minis (intel processors and front row 2...blah blah blah)
iLife/iWork '06 (iLife may include Front Row (not version 2), iWork may include a spreadsheet application)
Some type of change to the iPod line. My guess is that they will introduce an iPod nano with a lower capacity (like, 1 GB)
I think there's a possibility of new iBooks with intel processors as well.

[ramuman]

The next Intel notebook won't be a Powerbook for the simple reason that it won't have a Power PC processor in it. So no need to worry about Powerbook updates - I think the Rev E Als were the last of the Powerbooks.

[mulletman13]

Hrmm anybody seen this pic?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phillip_briggs/image1.jpg

From the AppleInsider forums.... so I can't take credit. But hrmm?

[Randall]

MWSF tomorrow:

Mac Mini will get the intel VIIV or whatever the multimedia one is.
iBooks get Pentium M (Dothan) and then get Core Solo this spring.
Powerbooks get Core Duo and I am a happy camper.

Any questions?

[Randall]

The next Intel notebook won't be a Powerbook for the simple reason that it won't have a Power PC processor in it. So no need to worry about Powerbook updates - I think the Rev E Als were the last of the Powerbooks.You're so wrong it's funny :p :D

[Chip NoVaMac]

Have you seen this?? From Appleinsider. So guys cell phone pic from the Moscone center

Please let it be real!!!!!!

[lu0s3r322]

psh. sooo fake. apple wouldnt release a white plasma with a black stand.

proof: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051216/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc

edit: heres the pic from yahoo
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/nm/20051219/2005_12_16t155616_450x326_us_column_pluggedin.jpg?x=380&y=275&sig=.rKiWgqwEbnFtJvJPTIIPw--

[Lacero]

White finish with a glowing Apple logo? That'll be the bane of my home theatre experience! :mad:

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[eVolcre]

Please let it be real!!!!!!

Let WHAT be real? What is that thing anyway?

[Aqua Structure]

Have you seen this?? From Appleinsider. So guys cell phone pic from the Moscone center
Dumb. I don't see that on AppleInsider.

[mulletman13]

Dumb. I don't see that on AppleInsider.

It's in the forums in the "Temporary Insanity" forum.... although it seem to have came up just when somebody asked for a picture.... so there's more reason for it to be fake :)

Plus that one tilted smaller one, just looks strange.

[Chip NoVaMac]

psh. sooo fake. apple wouldnt release a white plasma with a black stand.

proof: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051216/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc

Sigh, I knew it was just too good be true!

Thanks.

[Stella]

psh. sooo fake. apple wouldnt release a white plasma with a black stand.

proof: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051216/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc

Definitely fake, compare this pic to the 'apple' image above, the same apart from the Apple glowing logo. Nicely edited though.

[amateurmacfreak]

I have class tomorrow during the keynote. I've already decided that I'm ditching class to follow the live coverage, as it's in one of the few classrooms that still doesn't have WiFi.

I think it's pretty certain that there won't be a 2.8 GHz Yonah based mini, as Yonah doesn't go up that high. I wouldn't be surprised to see something closer to 1.6 GHz.
Ugh. I'm not ditching class. Will have it during. Have to wait until 11:45AM Central time for the news.
Are there many people on here ditching class for the keynote?
I think we have wi-fi in that classroom but.... XD we don't normally use laptops and the teacher would sort of be wondering what was up.
I agree about Yonah... 2.8GHz would be totally crazy. I think we'll see the iMac-like media center things though, and they'll be awesome. Maybe w/ plasma but... then again, maybe not. But 2.8GHz? Isn't that a bit excessive?

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

psh. sooo fake. apple wouldnt release a white plasma with a black stand.

proof: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051216/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc
LMOA! Well, who ever edited that photo did a REALLY good job,

[amateurmacfreak]

Bluetooth Mighty Mouse!!!!
OOOOOOOOH. Yes. That would be nice. Haven't thought of that. But I think it's quite plausible. B/c, personally, I'd rather have a wired Mighty Mouse than a wireless non-Mighty mouse, b/c that's what I'm doing right now... w/ a Bluetooth Mighty Mouse... then we're talking.

[richard5mith]

To anybody that still doubts Intel Macs tomorrow, here's something from the last World of Warcraft patch notes...

"This change will make it easier for us to release future updates to the game, for example to support upcoming Mac models based on Intel processors."

You really think they'd be making that change if Intel processors were still 6 months away?

[amateurmacfreak]

I want to see new iPods.
Updated shuffle. I am about 95% sure that's all we'll be seeing in iPods.
Let's focus on the computer and software! WOOT!
oh, and a wireless Mighty Mouse. :D

[lu0s3r322]

yes i agree with the shuffles, but why would they only say that the 1gb shuffles are sold out and not the 512's? Or maybe they're just updating the higher end one?

[Stella]

It could be forward planning, this is not evidence* of Intel based Macs coming tomorrow.

Everyone knows Intel Macs are coming soon, and many shareware / commercial apps have been ported to Intel.

*I do think there will be at least one Mac to be announced tomorrow with an Intel processor. However, WOW is not good evidence, just preparation - it is widely expected that an Intel Mac will be released between 1 January and WWDC.


To anybody that still doubts Intel Macs tomorrow, here's something from the last World of Warcraft patch notes...

"This change will make it easier for us to release future updates to the game, for example to support upcoming Mac models based on Intel processors."

You really think they'd be making that change if Intel processors were still 6 months away?

[amateurmacfreak]

Clearly there won't be any new products announced at MacWorld this year, I mean where are the photos of new product boxes in an elevator? How come no one has reported that one of the sales people at their local Apple store leaked them the specs on new gear just as they were about to buy a "soon to be obsolete" product.
I thought Apple never told any of the store employees about new products/updates? I thought they were really secretive about that? They seemed not to know much about the day the new iPods would be in when I wanted mine. XD Now that, I knew from the keynote. ;) Maybe they just work there. Not Apple geeks.:( Nah, too nice for that.:D

[VanNess]

how the heck will that fly? it has to be iPoddable* to work methinks. *please note i just copyrighted this word cause i've never seen it before and like it. ;) :rolleyes:

It's kinda of hard to imagine a typical widescreen movie shrunken down, with the required black bars on the top and bottom of the screen, onto an already tiny iPod Video screen. The TV video stuff, for the most part, doesn't suffer from that, but it's still pretty small. TV video content might pass on the iPod video, but widescreen movies are a bit of a stretch, no pun intended. I think you need the new iMagnifying Glass to see anything.

But a widescreen iBook, reinvented with an even more portable iPod-reminiscent form factor (as if in a sense it's iPod Video's new "big brother") might fly for those who want movies on the go in a way that conceivably works. Whether that means you have to download the movie or not, I have no idea. But downloading faces two hurdles: 1) the amount of time it takes to fully download a high quality (at least DVD quality) movie; and 2) movie downloads have to surpass the perceived convenience and immediacy of the local DVD rental outfit and not compromise on quality.

Then again, maybe I need just a little more booze, then I'll be right there with you on this. :D

[mdavey]

edit: heres the pic from yahoo

Oh, good find! Did you use any particular website to analyze the photo, or did you just use good search criteria?

[Stella]

Oh, good find! Did you use any particular website to analyze the photo, or did you just use good search criteria?
The link of the above pic comes from Apple Insider.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=863259#post863259

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051216/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc

[amateurmacfreak]

LOL. I was hoping for an updated video iPod, since I was about to get one today, but then realized I only have to wait excruciatingly one more day on iPod news. Do you think Steve would surprise us all and come out with a new 6G iPod?

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)
Totally, totally doubt it. Hope not. :( Then my 5G iPod wouldn't be cool anymore.:eek: ;)

[one3]

This may be over-simplifying things a bit, but if you look at the home page of apple.com you will find "NEW PowerMac G5", "The NEW iMac G5", and "NEW PowerBooks".
Just from that alone I would say that those 3 products will not be updated tomorrow .... I don't think they would have "NEW NEW PowerBooks", etc.

Could be wrong but just makes sense to me.

[lu0s3r322]

u caught me stella. yeah i just found that on the appleinsider forums.:p

[skunk]

This may be over-simplifying things a bit, but if you look at the home page of apple.com you will find "NEW PowerMac G5", "The NEW iMac G5", and "NEW PowerBooks".
Just from that alone I would say that those 3 products will not be updated tomorrow .... I don't think they would have "NEW NEW PowerBooks", etc.

Could be wrong but just makes sense to me.That's what you're supposed to think.
:rolleyes:

[amateurmacfreak]

Ouch! Thank goodness I only have to wait until noon in my time zone.

Hmmmm......
I'd rather wait until 6PM and not have school. :( Pizza? Coke? A lot better than trying to do advanced math. :( :o
I mean, it's the same time no matter where, 6PM there it's just happening here in the US of course. So I personally wish it was later here.

[one3]

That's what you're supposed to think.
:rolleyes:

And truthfully this would not be the first time I was wrong ....
:D

[ramuman]

How does O'Grady still have a job? He should be working for the Star or the National Enquirer.

[Daveway]

First shots of Moscone center are up. Arstechnica notes that the black curtain draped banners are up and they also note a large amount of black.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/1/9/2416

[KindredMAC]

I thought Apple never told any of the store employees about new products/updates? I thought they were really secretive about that? They seemed not to know much about the day the new iPods would be in when I wanted mine. XD Now that, I knew from the keynote. ;) Maybe they just work there. Not Apple geeks.:( Nah, too nice for that.:D
They don't tell the Apple Store people anything, but they do use their brains like the rest of us.... I'm going to be buying the Dual 2GHz Power Mac so I called the local Apple Store and asked them if I bought the PM this past weekend and iLife '06 came out at MW if I could get the upgrade for free being that it had been just days between the purchase and the upgrade. All the guy told me was, "I would wait until after MacWorld."

I was impressed that he would say that to me. Not like any other store that wouldn't give a flying ***** as long as they made a sale and then an upgrade sale to boot.

[amateurmacfreak]

Wait, the keynote is at 9 est? That can't be right. That makes it 6am in SF. It's 9am Pacific time, right?
Yep. 11:00 Central. Right? haha. XD I can't check until a few hours after anyways... ughs.

[amateurmacfreak]

They don't tell the Apple Store people anything, but they do use their brains like the rest of us.... I'm going to be buying the Dual 2GHz Power Mac so I called the local Apple Store and asked them if I bought the PM this past weekend and iLife '06 came out at MW if I could get the upgrade for free being that it had been just days between the purchase and the upgrade. All the guy told me was, "I would wait until after MacWorld."

I was impressed that he would say that to me. Not like any other store that wouldn't give a flying ***** as long as they made a sale and then an upgrade sale to boot.
Haha, yeah, once I talked to a person there about Intel, but of course, he tried not to say too much... It is impressive that he'd say that. I saw a lady who looked like she doesn't know s*** about Apple computers buying an iBook the other day. It made me so sad. :( :rolleyes: ;)

[aswitcher]

My crystal ball tells me the following:



Nice analysis...seems about right to me...airport express with video as well as .Mac download service would be logical as well.

[pags]

Turns out I'm on vacation this week, and that I'll be 5 minutes from my local Apple Store at Noon Eastern time (9 am Pacific) tomorrow. I know the keynote is not being webcast, but does anybody know if there's a closed-circuit or other live feed that can be viewed at Apple stores?

Wishful thinking, I know, but I had to ask. . . .

[jhero]

no

[amateurmacfreak]

2.8 DC Yonah....yeah right :rolleyes:

I just got an iMac so, well add on's and updates, FrontRow 2 etc. :D
Yep! Same here! Well.... I already want a new comp too.:o But nothing against my iMac. I just love something new.:) ;)

[Chundles]

Yeah, I'm not good enough with Photoshop to put stuff into the box but here's an elevator pic nonetheless...

[yankeefan24]

Again, a contriversial idea of mine, but i think they should change the charger plug on the 'books. I like the idea of black pb's tho. Maybe a black charger like it is now, but an different shape/size for the actual part that goes into the computer. I had 2, the broken 1 had the rubber come off of the near part to the actual expansion on the computer sided plug, and the older (but working) one can only charge in some positions, and likes to turn to the position where it is not charging, maybe something like the charger for the PSP or something smaller and more sturdy. i kno its contriversial but i HATE the apple chargers, even an enlarged version of the ipod dock connecter would be better.

P.S. what have i just started

[sfwalter]

No matter what is announced tomorrow, one or more of the following groups of people will be back here cursing Apple:

1. Those that want new iBooks and Apple didn't announce any
2. Those that want new Powerbooks and Apple didn't announce any
3. Those that want new Mac Minis (count me in) and Apple didn't announce any
4. Those that want new iPods and Apple didn't announce any
5. Those that want a new consumer device. and Apple didn't announce any
6. Those that aren't going to buy anything, but just like to complain.

[amateurmacfreak]

yes i agree with the shuffles, but why would they only say that the 1gb shuffles are sold out and not the 512's? Or maybe they're just updating the higher end one?
Perhaps. Maybe doing away with it?
Somehow I got into an odd discussion with my classmates where we decided the Shuffles would be colored neon and fruit-scented with refillable lip-gloss containders on their end. XD Aren't we fun, intellegent little people?:p

[mdavey]

Again, a contriversial idea of mine, but i think they should change the charger plug on the 'books.

The Mac mini one seems to work well but doesn't have a built-in LED.

[runninmac]

Do you think apple will make a statement about finally reaching 3 ghz

edit - do you think apple will release more TV shows/networks?

Oh I do belive they will... on thinksecret.com they have their roundup article its nice to read... Linky da dinky (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0601expo.html) Oh and over 1 1/2 hours for a steve-note I CANT WAIT!

[KrysBaz]

Again, a contriversial idea of mine, but i think they should change the charger plug on the 'books. I like the idea of black pb's tho. Maybe a black charger like it is now, but an different shape/size for the actual part that goes into the computer. I had 2, the broken 1 had the rubber come off of the near part to the actual expansion on the computer sided plug, and the older (but working) one can only charge in some positions, and likes to turn to the position where it is not charging, maybe something like the charger for the PSP or something smaller and more sturdy. i kno its contriversial but i HATE the apple chargers, even an enlarged version of the ipod dock connecter would be better.

P.S. what have i just started

Are you sure you havn't just stolen my adaptors? Same problem, number 2 is on it's way out. But as the 'puter is almost 3 years old, it shall soon, be replaced, not just the adaptor but the whole machine. Yes I know the risks of a Rev. A intel PB, but I have faith that all will be fine.

[boombashi]

Everyone that thinks that PowerBooks will be unveiled at a Developers conference are plain wrong. OS X 10.5 betas are for Developers not PowerBooks - those are consumer and business machines. About 5 years ago to the day Apple unveiled the G4 TiBook. We will see PowerBooks and iBooks, PowerBooks no iBooks, or neither PowerBooks or iBooks. PowerBooks are in MUCH more need of a serious update than iBooks. They have been sporting that form and processor for WAY longer than the iBooks. If you think that High-Rez screens are an update, well you are right, but you will also be seeing those exact screens in the new PowerBooks. watch and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. :D

[runninmac]

We are in blackout conditions people. Apple will shoot to kill anyone entering an elevator. :D


Oh we need out 007 secret agent for this one. Sending us pics of the new stuff while avoiding being shot.:eek:

[mulletman13]

They have been sporting that form and processor for WAY longer than the iBooks. If you think that High-Rez screens are an update, well you are right, but you will also be seeing those exact screens in the new PowerBooks. watch and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. :D

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the iBooks have retained the same form factor for longer than the PB's. Well, if you consider the TiBook and AlBook different forms (and I do)... the iBook has had the same exact exterior since the G3 500mhz chip that started it out :-\

[runninmac]

The event is going to be at 3am on the 11th here is Brisbane (Australia). Oh well I'll awake to some awesome products.

True Apple geeks stay up till the crack of dawn and refresh the pages obsessively! J/K I will be in school till 2:30 so I may just catch the last part of the Stevenote.:mad: But I have already planted the seeds for a "sick day";)

[Evan_11]

I was just reading a rumor at Powerbook Central about Flash memory being used possibly in a iBook. Why not? A flash based 'nanobook' would require less battery power and a thinner enclosure. Also lose the optical drive and Steve would have a really cool "...and one last thing".

Think about these specs:

12" 1280x854 widescreen (smaller dimensions for better battery life)
1.6 ghz Yonah single core (scale it down to 15 watts)
15 or 20 gig Flash memory
512 ram w/ option of 1 gig (non user upgradeable to keep small form factor)
built in battery that would be rated at 5 hours
2 USB 2.0
no firewire (sorry guys but this is a consumer model)
AE and bluetooth
Black or white versions available

Size wise? less than 1/2 a pound and a 1/4" thick!

Yeah a lot of you will complain about the lack of storage and no optical. They're going to update .Mac so for those with desktop's you'll be able to access files from where ever there's a WiFi hotspot. This is not a laptop for those who want desktop replacements but for those who want something stylish, small, thin and sexy...just like the iPod Nano! :D

[runninmac]

Hrmm anybody seen this pic?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phillip_briggs/image1.jpg

From the AppleInsider forums.... so I can't take credit. But hrmm?

Those TV's must be horable if Apple has to resort to using swimsuit pictures for their new plasmas... FAKE... (obviously)

[advocate]

No matter what is announced tomorrow, one or more of the following groups of people will be back here cursing Apple:

1. Those that want new iBooks and Apple didn't announce any
2. Those that want new Powerbooks and Apple didn't announce any
3. Those that want new Mac Minis (count me in) and Apple didn't announce any
4. Those that want new iPods and Apple didn't announce any
5. Those that want a new consumer device. and Apple didn't announce any
6. Those that aren't going to buy anything, but just like to complain.
Plus:

7. Those that just bought an iBook and Apple announced a new one
8. Those that just bought a PowerBook and Apple announced a new one
9. Those that just bought a new Mac mini and Apple announced a new one
10. Those that just bought a new consumer decide and Apple announced another one
11. Those that spent all their money last month and want to buy more Apple gear

[DavidCar]

Does anyone think there could be a new database application in either iLife or iWork based on Apple's new Core Data functionality?

[amateurmacfreak]

Those TV's must be horable if Apple has to resort to using swimsuit pictures for their new plasmas... FAKE... (obviously)
The most fake, crappy photo I've ever seen. It's so freaking ugly. :eek: Of course Apple won't do that! :D :rolleyes: ;) :cool:

[zap2]

i'm sellign my iPod and i might pick up an intel Mac Min in place of a new iPod

I'm so happy!

[tny]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the iBooks have retained the same form factor for longer than the PB's. Well, if you consider the TiBook and AlBook different forms (and I do)... the iBook has had the same exact exterior since the G3 500mhz chip that started it out :-\

Nope, the keyboard changed when they switched to G4 - from translucent to opaque keys, and to a somewhat more plasticy feel to the whole interior surface. While less significant than the difference between TiBooks and AlBooks, it is enough for someone with a G3 iBook to recognize a G4 iBook as different and viceversa.

[Evan_11]

Those TV's must be horable if Apple has to resort to using swimsuit pictures for their new plasmas... FAKE... (obviously)

Actually they would look even cooler if they employed the iMac G4's swivel neck. Imagine a lifesize Luxo jr. in your living room :p

[Chundles]

I was just reading a rumor at Powerbook Central about Flash memory being used possibly in a iBook. Why not? A flash based 'nanobook' would require less battery power and a thinner enclosure. Also lose the optical drive and Steve would have a really cool "...and one last thing".

Think about these specs:

12" 1280x854 widescreen (smaller dimensions for better battery life)
1.6 ghz Yonah single core (scale it down to 15 watts)
15 or 20 gig Flash memory
512 ram w/ option of 1 gig (non user upgradeable to keep small form factor)
built in battery that would be rated at 5 hours
2 USB 2.0
no firewire (sorry guys but this is a consumer model)
AE and bluetooth
Black or white versions available

Size wise? less than 1/2 a pound and a 1/4" thick!

Yeah a lot of you will complain about the lack of storage and no optical. They're going to update .Mac so for those with desktop's you'll be able to access files from where ever there's a WiFi hotspot. This is not a laptop for those who want desktop replacements but for those who want something stylish, small, thin and sexy...just like the iPod Nano! :D

Um, the flash memory thing is likely to be used for Intel's Robson caching, where a small amount of flash memory is used to store important parts of the OS and regularly used programs in order to facilitate fast (almost instant) boot time and much faster program loading.

I can't see flash memory replacing hard disk drives anytime soon - just too expensive.

[boombashi]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the iBooks have retained the same form factor for longer than the PB's. Well, if you consider the TiBook and AlBook different forms (and I do)... the iBook has had the same exact exterior since the G3 500mhz chip that started it out :-\

No you are correct sir, but they look very similar from five feet away...still they have had the same G4s in them forever - yes they are faster now, but come on the time is now! Forget about ThinkSecret, they've been less than reliable in the last several months. To be honest, I'd be more than happy if they come out with a iBook wide screen and Mac mini with a Core Duo processor and no PowerBooks, as long as their prices remained the same or drop a little. I would buy one of each rather than a PowerBook. If it happens that way, they WILL have a "Special Event" in a month or so to release PowerBooks, no way will they wait 'til summer.