Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.4.4

[MacRumors]

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Apple released Mac OS X 10.4.4 in your Mac OS X software update. Apple releases this today alongside a number of other software (iTunes 6.0.2, Quicktime 7.0.4 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060110170215.shtml), iLife '06 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060110141828.shtml), iWork '06 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060110142618.shtml)) and hardware (Intel iMac (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060110142730.shtml), MacBook Pro (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060110142811.shtml)).

The 10.4.4 Update delivers overall improved reliability and compatibility for Mac OS X v10.4 and is recommended for all users.

It includes fixes for:
- SMB/CIFS and NFS network file services
- Bluetooth wireless access
- Core Graphics, Core Audio, Core Image, RAW camera support, including updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
- Spotlight indexing and searching
- AppleScript, iChat, DVD Player, and Safari applications
- Dashboard widgets: Calendar and Stocks
- Software Update and Sync Services
- compatibility with USB and FireWire devices and third party applications
- previous standalone security updates

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n302810.
For detailed information on Security Updates, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798.

[Lacero]

54.4 MB for me.

Delta upgrade from 10.4.3. to .4. on my PowerBook 12". This'll be my guinea pig machine until I know it's safe to go on my production G5. Spotlight fixes sound good to me.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[treblah]

Delta (55MB)
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1044.html

Combo (120MB)
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1044combo.html

[someguy]

27.6MB here on a 15" PowerBook G4.

Currently downloading. :)

[furryrabidbunny]

works good on my emac. Lots of new widgets. Espn widget, new calendar widget (now black and green), ski report, google search, white pages search. those seem to be the only noticeable and major changes.

[Doctor Q]

Who should use which:

Mac OS X 10.4.3 users should use Software Update or the 55MB Delta update (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1044.html).

Mac OS X 10.4 through 10.4.2 users should use Software Update or the 120MB Combo update (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1044combo.html).

[Apple]

i guess i have to restart my computer again today :mad:
After first taking forever for that qtime update, now this is taking forever. O well I hope it fixes things instead of the opposite

[pdpfilms]

27.6 on my 15"pb. I'll guinea pig.

[markomark]

crashes my machine g5 2.0hz whenever it boots

HELP!!!!!!

:mad: :eek:

[markomark]

there it goes again!!!!!!!!!:eek:

[Stridder44]

Giggity giggity goo!!


P.S. im laughing at all you whiners complaining about having to restart

[mi5moav]

yeh, my imac isight keeps crashing oh, well

[hyperpasta]

Yay new widgets!!!

I have:

*Google
*ESPN
*Yellow Pages name changed to "Business"
*New White Pages widget called "People"
*New Widget: "Ski Report"
*Improved look for calendar widget
*Ugly look for Address Book Widget

[ITASOR]

Posting this from 10.4.4 right now on my iBook. So far, so good, as with every other OS update I've done.

Oh, and my computer feels like a quad 8.9Ghz core duo x99 now. It's so snappy.

[davey-nb]

I'm not surprised but after the update the Front Row hack on my iMac G5 is kaput!

[iDM]

It gave me error messages three straight times saying it encountered a time out error and that I should check my network connection it finally went through......I hope that doesn't mean bad things.......

[FireArse]

crashes my machine g5 2.0hz whenever it boots

My rev. B 2GHz PM is fine here - bit of a long time with the grey screen - but the 10.4.3 update was the same, so I just sat and waited till it did its thing.

erm - the Dashboard is a great deal quicker - possbily from new Drivers for graphics. Well otherewise - pretty much the same as 10.4.0 is you ask me.

F

[Lacero]

The update made a minor cosmetic change to the Spotlight icon background.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[furryrabidbunny]

Yay new widgets!!!

I have:

*Google
*ESPN
*Yellow Pages name changed to "Business"
*New White Pages widget called "People"
*New Widget: "Ski Report"
*Improved look for calendar widget
*Ugly look for Address Book Widget
i didn't notice the new address book widget... imho it looks a lot better, no more odd shapes, fits more nicely with the os.

[bloodfist]

Hopefully the USB compatibility fixes my issues with my PS2 to USB radio shack adapter and my PNY Vibe on my G5.

-bloodfist

[Dagless]

Download after EyeTV records some crazy BBC Four japanese comedy film. gah its on for hours...

[Viewtiful Rich]

Installed it and everything seems fine... it does feel a bit snappier, especially dashboard (well for me anyways).

[Rye Brye]

Dashboard was cool for 5 minutes after I loaded Tiger. Then I realized how much CPU those little buggers use...

Needless to say, I will not be loading these new widgets on.

[Megatron]

works great on my ibook 12" 1.33 GHz. Installed smoothly, rebooted, repaired permissions, and everything seems to be working great.

[Laser47]

Installed on my ibook, works great. I also noticed that the finder version now matches the OS version 10.4.4.

[catchbar]

mine is working INFINITELY better!
My speed was awful recently-this makes everything better!

[kretzy]

I'm downloading it now. Did anyone else get the AlPB 15'' Battery Update which apparently optimizes battery performance?

[FireArse]

The update made a minor cosmetic change to the Spotlight icon background.

just wanted to let y'all know - I dont have this.

F

[someguy]

Installed nicely. No problems whatsoever, although I can't really say that I notice any difference in either direction, to be honest.

[BearRanger]

Dashboard was cool for 5 minutes after I loaded Tiger. Then I realized how much CPU those little buggers use...

Needless to say, I will not be loading these new widgets on.

Widgets take up memory, but unless I'm mistaken they only use CPU cycles when the Dashboard layer is invoked. Recent updates have fixed a number of memory leak problems I used to see with some widgets. Nowadays I have no issues with Dashboard.

[dr_lha]

The "Architecture" has gone from the Info page on Applications, replaced by a line that states either:

Kind: Application (PowerPC) or
Kind: Application (Universal)

I guess this is better than the Architecture: PowerPC, Intel we had before.

[Laser47]

I'm not surprised but after the update the Front Row hack on my iMac G5 is kaput!
Just reinstall the hack, It works.

[bigbossbmb]

27Mb download for my pb in sig...

very slow startup, but now things seem really nice. as FireArse said, dashboard seems quicker

macbook pro's look spiffy btw...although im stuck on this dented pb for at least another 18 months!!!

[Compile 'em all]

The Calender widget got new looks + new Google widget

[ITASOR]

The update made a minor cosmetic change to the Spotlight icon background.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

Mine's not like that either.

[yojitani]

It doesn't say on any of the info sheets, so does anyone know if this fixes the fan problems on PM G5's? MAJOR annoyance for me with 10.4.3...

[robszabo]

So far so good on my dual 867 G4. I like the new widgets, too.

[Lacero]

just wanted to let y'all know - I dont have this.
Hmmm... I'll reboot again to see if it goes away. Very odd. I don't remember if I had UNO installed or not on this machine.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[iCraig]

No problems with 10.4.4 here on my 1GHz eMac ATi Graphics!

Although the first boot up after restart took an alarmingly long time!

[Nermal]

Mine's not like that either.

Nor for me. So far, all I've noticed is that the Architecture line has gone (as mentioned above), there are new widgets as Steve announced this morning, and there is now a message about licensing in Software Update.

[ppnkg]

works great on my ibook 12" 1.33 GHz. Installed smoothly, rebooted, repaired permissions, and everything seems to be working great.


May I ask why you repaired the permissions?

Well, it works ok on my mac. After restarting, I got a question whether I wanted systemuiserver to update something- I answered 'change all'. First thing I did was to disable a ton of widgets. But I can't notice any difference in performance etc.

[kainjow]

It doesn't say on any of the info sheets, so does anyone know if this fixes the fan problems on PM G5's? MAJOR annoyance for me with 10.4.3...
I hope it fixes that chirping problem, although I haven't heard that in a while (maybe I'm used to it).

[runninmac]

Everything is running great for me over hear, I like the new White Pages widget

[bowzer]

Works fine on my mac mini 1.42... it was 27.6mb

Running Google Earth too :D

[mauly]

Download after EyeTV records some crazy BBC Four japanese comedy film. gah its on for hours...

me too!! lol, small world..

[pknz]

Ok did anyone else get the Mac OS X Start Up Assistant after installing 10.4.4?

How odd:confused:

[qwf]

Hey, PB 15 owners (new high definition screen model), does the update fixes the "lines issue"?

[crackrock]

I just downloaded this and now my bluetooth says "not available".

[LawHog]

Hmmm... I'll reboot again to see if it goes away. Very odd. I don't remember if I had UNO installed or not on this machine.


That's the problem, Lacero. I had Iridium (another brushed-metal-and-pinstripes-remover) installed before the update and I ended up with the same problem. I uninstalled Iridium and now the Spotlight portion of the menu bar is back to normal. I guess those of us who prefer a unified GUI will have to wait for Iridium or UNO to come out with a 10.4.4-compatible version.

[VanNess]

Widgets take up memory, but unless I'm mistaken they only use CPU cycles when the Dashboard layer is invoked. Recent updates have fixed a number of memory leak problems I used to see with some widgets. Nowadays I have no issues with Dashboard.

Widget memory gets "fat" for some reason after a software update that requires a restart. If you quit the dock or just restart your computer again, you should see your widget memory drastically reduced.

[kansast]

any chance this update adds any new iSync compatibilities ? any new phones ? or older phones not previously supported. I checked APples site at:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/devices.html
but there appears to be no changes. and still says iSync 2.1

[mduser63]

27 MB on my 12" PowerBook. I like the new widgets, especially the Ski Report one. Makes me want to go skiing tomorrow :). Also, whereas the ripple effect used to stutter slightly on my PowerBook, it is now perfectly smooth like on the Power Mac.

[Some_Big_Spoon]

new safari build kills pithhelmet.. pffft..

[nihilisticmonk]

First findings

dashboard = definately faster

Frontrow hack still works...(first time I've installed it...appears to work fine)

G5 fan speed....hmm, appears same, but I've never noticed my fans being particularly loud

Aperture = still annoying bug where scrolling through albums is pixellated thumbnails for a split second...bizarrely this bug doesn't appear in full screen mode....

no crashes, no weird occurances so far...all good...

[FireArse]

I hope it fixes that chirping problem, although I haven't heard that in a while (maybe I'm used to it).

You can stop the chirping by setting the CPU energy saver to 'automatic'. When you need the maximum power - put up with the chriping.

My Mac has had this from the first week or so. I just live with it. It'll need to be looked at eventually becuase the sound is quite screwed up. Apple Care to the rescue!! :)

As for Front row - mine works without any faffing about. i used the fix that meant it needed to change files in some sort of library somewhere - cant remember. Anyway - it still works.

Still like 10.4.0 in my opinion. Runs like a charm. :)

Anybody comment on framerates for Games? How good are the updated drivers?! Wow? Doom?

[justflie]

The widgets are definitely loading faster for me, as well as doing the proper animation for when you hit the info button to turn to the "backside" of the widget. This didn't work before the update so i'm a happy camper. by the way, mac mini rev A, 1.42ghz g4, stupid small video chip, and 1gb of ram.

[LionelEHutz]

I've been running OS 9 for a while and and am thinking of finally moving to OSX by buying Tiger just to hold me over until the rev. B macintels come out. I never buy the first version of anything.:D

[hh83917]

Hope my Myst V game will run ok now with the new ati drivers :confused: Anyone tried it yet?

[FireArse]

G5 fan speed....hmm, appears same, but I've never noticed my fans being particularly loud

I have always left the machine on 'Highest' and put up with the chirping until i replied to kainjow's post. Set the performance to 'Automatic', but as soon as i browsed elsewhere - the fans started kicking in and were far louder than I had heard in months.

hmmmmm

[DaftUnion]

I'm unfor. going to wait until tonight to download this until there's some more feedback on the .4 update.

[Flowbee]

new safari build kills pithhelmet.. pffft..

Arrg... and my installation just finished. I guess it's time for Firefox until pithhelmet gets updated.

[fowler.]

It also kills Uno :(

Brushed metal looks so bad compared to that nice plastic look.

[TDM21]

Just installed on my QuickSilver PM. So far so good. I even think the X11 focus problem has been fixed. When I Command+Tab to X11, it brings the windows to the front. I will test this out on my PB since I know it has had the problem since I first insalled Tiger.

update: Nope, PB still has they issue with X11 and bringing its windows to the front. This must be an issue with a few specific systems.

[maya]

Seems my prediction of 10.4.4 being released at MWSF 2006 was true. :)

I will allow some bold Mac users to try it out, before I take that risk. ;)

[fowler.]

It also kills Uno :(

Brushed metal looks so bad compared to that nice plastic look.

reinstalled, all better

[nagromme]

Does the new calendar widget have the ability to launch iCal? Does it show iCal events?

(Early previews of the "red" calendar widget did that.)

[Diatribe]

FU***** 4th incarnation and they still haven't fixed Mail's auto-hiding... :mad:
This is almost Microsoft style... what do I say almost... it is. :mad:

[alexstein]

Downloading right now. The Download is slower than molasses in the Winter. 49.9MB for the Quicktime update and 37min remaining. I guess I put a couple of posts onto MR in the meantime.

[ldenman]

for some reason this update killed my airport wireless.
thankfully, i just restarted(again) and it fixed it up.
everything working good so far.

knock on desk.

[dejo]

ESPN widget defaults to hockey scores for me. How did it know?

[YEMandy]

my iMac G5 with built in iSight (20" 2.1Ghz) now has very loud fans, it never did before, they just started roaring after the first restart, repairing permissions did not fix it either. Bummer... SHould have waited...

[kcmac]

All good here on an iMac G5 and 12 inch PB.

[bmoorhouse]

FU***** 4th incarnation and they still haven't fixed Mail's auto-hiding... :mad:
This is almost Microsoft style... what do I say almost... it is. :mad:
I wish I could say I know what you are talking about . . . auto-hiding?

[kretzy]

Just finished installing and there doesn't seem to be any problems. I wonder if the PB Battery update will do anything...I'll test it out later.

[markomark]

wiped it clean and upgraded..what a piece of crap:eek:

trying my other g5!!!

arrgggoogoogogoogoogogoogoo:p :p :p

[quigleybc]

It doesn't say on any of the info sheets, so does anyone know if this fixes the fan problems on PM G5's? MAJOR annoyance for me with 10.4.3...



My question as well, anyone know if the fans still go nuts every half hour or so with this update? On a PM G5 that is??

fans were fine for 10.4.2, 10.4.3 brought about the fan freak outs,

hopefully this will settle them back down...but I doubt it.

Also, hopefully this will kill the "chirp" that began on Power Mac G5's after installing Tiger....

but again...I doubt it..

[Dagless]

me too!! lol, small world..

Its only recording because my dad said we'd watch the 'apparently' greatest episode of Only Fools and Horses... only he goes and puts on Anchorman on Sky Movies. gah!

[cb911]

firstly - what is "Mail's auto-hiding"? :confused: i've never heard of this, and Mail has never hidden itself from me with pressing cmd+h myself.

and yes, Al PB 15" Battery update appears for me as well, actually that appeared before the OS X update.

time to update! :D

[blackpeter]

I just downloaded this and now my bluetooth says "not available".

Try rebooting. That worked for me.

[Romanesq]

Well just dived in anyway so what the hell.
All looks good on this front anyway.

PB 15" G4. :cool: Gosh I need a new one.

[davey-nb]

Just reinstall the hack, It works.
You're right!
I'm loving Front Row for giving slide shows and watching trailers and movies, I think this app will have much more use to come shortly!

[jono_3]

worked fine for me. i noticed improvements in the GUI. the dock wave is smoother and the dashboard is a little smoother as well. now to see if logic benefits from any of this blanket lovin

[Diatribe]

I wish I could say I know what you are talking about . . . auto-hiding?


firstly - what is "Mail's auto-hiding"? :confused: i've never heard of this, and Mail has never hidden itself from me with pressing cmd+h myself.

and yes, Al PB 15" Battery update appears for me as well, actually that appeared before the OS X update.

time to update! :D


When Mail is set to automatically start on log-in you can select a checkbox so it doesn't pop up. Unfortunately with Mail this checkbox does nothing. So I have to manually close the mail window after every boot.

[Orlando Furioso]

My question as well, anyone know if the fans still go nuts every half hour or so with this update? On a PM G5 that is??

fans were fine for 10.4.2, 10.4.3 brought about the fan freak outs,

hopefully this will settle them back down...but I doubt it.

Also, hopefully this will kill the "chirp" that began on Power Mac G5's after installing Tiger....

but again...I doubt it..

Yeah, 10.4.3 brought the fans out again. 10.4.4 appears to be no different. As far as the chirping goes, it is also still around when energy settings are at Highest performance. Auto setting seems OK. I just leave it on Lowest for most things not related to photo or video editing.

[daddy-mojo]

Anyone have any ideas why the QT 7.0.4 update was pulled and Apple posted a 7.0.1 re-installer with absolutely no info as to why. I already ran the QT update and it seems fine. I hate when they don't explain themselves a little bit. Like don't install the QT update before 10.4.4 or it will melt or something.

[maya]

wiped it clean and upgraded..what a piece of crap:eek:

trying my other g5!!!

arrgggoogoogogoogoogogoogoo:p :p :p


ROTFLMAO, maybe this update is written in Universal binaries. ;) :D

[theranch]

Ok did anyone else get the Mac OS X Start Up Assistant after installing 10.4.4?

How odd:confused:
Nope. I'm on a 17" powerbook 1.5ghz w/ 1mb ram.
I didn't have any problems.

[BENJMNS]

worked great for me.

1.67 17" hi-res

[Agathon]

Great... the idiots have hardlocked my mouse buttons. Now back is forward and forward is back.

I can't even redefine them in Logitech Control Center.

Damn you Apple.

[Xtremehkr]

Too much good stuff happening. The updates work fine, I have just one question though, how do you get rid of the iTunes windows when you are looking at regular iTunes stuff.

I don't need the music store there all the time.

[fuzzybassoon]

This update really borked my PowerBook 15" DL. After the update installed, before I rebooted, my Apple BT Keyboard stopped working, so I restarted it really quickly, and as soon as they reconnected, I got a really nice kernel panick. Restart took over 5 mins, not my BT is messed up (can't get the keyboard to work) and my sound drivers seem gone.

[Xtremehkr]

well that really wasn't so hard, once I actually looked.

[Nermal]

Anyone have any ideas why the QT 7.0.4 update was pulled

It's unstable, it crashes whenever I close a WMV file. Other people have reported the same problem, and 7.0.3 didn't do it.

[Rocksaurus]

Great... the idiots have hardlocked my mouse buttons. Now back is forward and forward is back.

I can't even redefine them in Logitech Control Center.

Damn you Apple.


Anyone know if it does this to USB Overdrive as well? I'd hate to lose Expose on my mouse...:)

[Detlev_73]

Nice. Everything is QUICK-QUICK-QUICK! Especially Safari.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

The long boot time after restarting had me worried for a minute. Still it wasn't as long as the one going from 10.4.2 -> 10.4.3, that really had me worried, and now everything seems fine... :)

Edit: Well, Safari still chrashes horribly when I close a tab after searching on of my favorite places: My local public library. Gonna stick with Firefox for now... ;)

Apart from that, 10.4.4 is running smoothly on my good ol' iBook:

[ITR 81]

I've noticed this in 10.4.3 update in the Caculator it won't just let you add say 50% to any number just by putting in that number and hitting the % button.

This change kept me from updating my other Mac's. I noticed with this update it's still the same as in the last update! Why the change??

The only good thing I notice is Safari seems to be blazing in speed now compared to 10.4.3 ver.

[ravenvii]

The long boot time after restarting had me worried for a minute. Still it wasn't as long as the one going from 10.4.2 -> 10.4.3, that really had me worried, and now everything seems fine... :)

Edit: Well, Safari still chrashes horribly when I close a tab after searching on of my favorite places: My local public library. Gonna stick with Firefox for now... ;)

Apart from that, 10.4.4 is running smoothly on my good ol' iBook:

Anyone notice they added "Tiger" to the About My Mac window? Interesting.

[Di9it8]

5 minute download on 1ghz 17 PB, everything is running smoothly, especially the widgets, and iTunes visualiser seems to be much smoother

[avkills]

It's unstable, it crashes whenever I close a WMV file. Other people have reported the same problem, and 7.0.3 didn't do it.

QT does not play WMV files, unless you have Flip4Mac. Must be something else.

-mark

[Xtremehkr]

The long boot time after restarting had me worried for a minute. Still it wasn't as long as the one going from 10.4.2 -> 10.4.3, that really had me worried, and now everything seems fine... :)

Edit: Well, Safari still chrashes horribly when I close a tab after searching on of my favorite places: My local public library. Gonna stick with Firefox for now... ;)

Apart from that, 10.4.4 is running smoothly on my good ol' iBook:

I don't get that on mine.

[Nermal]

QT does not play WMV files, unless you have Flip4Mac.

That still doesn't change the fact that 7.0.4 crashes when you close a WMV. Apple is probably working on fixing the underlying problem, rather than that particular instance of it.

[Laser47]

I might be just me but the fan on my ibook has been turning on more frequently, Im not even doing anything cpu intensive.

[qwf]

again, hi-res 15' pb users: does it fix the crappy lines issue?

[reckless_0001]

That still doesn't change the fact that 7.0.4 crashes when you close a WMV. Apple is probably working on fixing the underlying problem, rather than that particular instance of it.

According to macminute.com the quicktime update was reposted.

[Laser47]

Anyone notice they added "Tiger" to the About My Mac window? Interesting.
Mine doesn't say tiger, i think its just Mitthrawnuruodo's about this mac pane.

[alexstein]

Despite the enormous download time and the longer than usual restart. My iBook took the update with grace and runs flawless so far....keeps fingers crossed...

[cb911]

i don't have "Tiger" in my "about this Mac" window. :confused:
Mitthrawnuruodo's window is customized - i'd say that he added that in. :P

but i do have all kinds of problems with my Dock now... it doesn't appear unless i click on the bottom of the screen, and then it doesn't 'flow' along - it stays static in the same position it opened, the magnifying effect doesn't follow my cursor.

also menu's in the menubar are b0rk3d. :mad:

usually you can click on the "File" menu, then move over to the "Edit" menu and the Edit menu will appear. not for me. i even move my mouse over the menu items, and they don't highlight. :mad:

15" PB 1.25GHz

on the up side - i like the new Calendar widget at least.

also - no new version of Saft out yet for 10.4.4?

also i forgot to mention that i've got QuickTime 7.0.4? will my PB blow up? i got this from Software Update just within the last hour as well... so am i to believe this is the updated version?

[DND82]

My crashes are much snappier. :confused:

On a serious note, everything seems stable so far. Google widget seems a bit useless IMO. I guess its just me though.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

i don't have "Tiger" in my "about this Mac" window. :confused:
Mitthrawnuruodo's window is customized - i'd say that he added that in. :POh, yeah... :cool:

Wasn't the colour logo a dead give away...? :confused:

[artifex]

According to macminute.com the quicktime update was reposted.

What do those of us who installed it before it was pulled do? I mean, was it stable after all? Or should this be 7.04.1?

[Asagai]

After the 10.4.3 upgrade the fans in my 1.6GHz G5 went CRAZY. After that upgrade the box OVERHEATS and crashes! To make it work I have an external fan the sits in front of the machine.

I thought 10.4.4 would have corrected the issue as 10.3.9 did after the 10.3.8 update caused the same fan problems, but I of course was wrong!

I must admit, I have never been this UNHAPPY as a MAC user as I am now! I really mean that. It just seems that there is one thing after the other!

[DaftUnion]

my 10.4.4 update works great on my computer...specs in sig.

[Psychic Shopper]

Too much good stuff happening. The updates work fine, I have just one question though, how do you get rid of the iTunes windows when you are looking at regular iTunes stuff.

I don't need the music store there all the time.
One of the pull down menus has a hide ministore function. Freaked me out when I first saw that ministore thing at the bottom of my Itunes.

[leekohler]

So far 10.4.4 is great on both my iBook G4 and PowerMac G4. Maybe even a bit faster. :)

[artifex]

Ugh. 10.4.4 does NOT fix support for third party bluetooth receivers.
OSX still claims my iogear dongle does not support headsets, when it certainly does under Windows. Why don't I just bite the bullet and buy the D-Link? Because this dongle is classed for 330 feet, not 33.

[hermes369]

OK, so I install the Quicktime update (pre pull and repost) on my Lombard (with 433mhz G4 Daystar and XPostFacto), install 10.4.4 and everything's fine. Cool, I think. So, I put it on my MDD 1.25 Dualie and I'm borked. I'm installing from the DVD now and will try to step myself back up. If I can get that far. Odd to say the least. At any rate, the Lombard seems a little peppier. This always seems to happen after an update and a permissions repair.
Off topic, when will Apple make another Black Power--ur--- MacBook Pro? The silver thing's cool, but always bet on black!
B.

[native00]

The update took me about 5 minutes on my 15"/1.25 PB, but I did not do the Quicktime Update. My Bluetooth is currently disabled, but I'm sure another restart will set that straight. I've never had any fan issues on this computer or my 17" iSight iMac, so I don't expect any now. I'm off to go home and update the iMac...let you know how it goes.

Thanks for all the posts.

[umijin]

No problem so far on my 12" G4 PB (1.33Ghz).

I had thought it killed Dashboard, but I had forgotten that I used the Dashboard Switch application to turn Dasboard off.

[p0intblank]

10.4.4 fixed that annoying Safari issue. Everything is smooth once again! :D

[bketchum]

Your wifi reception isn't so good either. :-)

I just downloaded this and now my bluetooth says "not available".

[bketchum]

After updating, my iBook randomly quacks at me.

Update: No, sorry, my mistake. I'm rather high.

...good day for Apple fans.

[atari1356]

Downloading the update now.

I'm surprised they didn't include a new Calculator widget...
:rolleyes: :D

[plasticparadox]

FU***** 4th incarnation and they still haven't fixed Mail's auto-hiding... :mad:
This is almost Microsoft style... what do I say almost... it is. :mad:

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/19148

[kretzy]

I think my favourite thing about this update is the new calendar widget - it looks really cool! :)

[zac4mac]

Lacero - the color logo made my heart skip....

SU shows QT 7.0.4, iT6.0.2, iPod updater and 10.4.4, will run after His Steveness is finished. I'm such a slut, ordered an FM remote and a 1.83 MacBook. Damn RDF.

Z

[Chundles]

I'm such a slut, ordered an FM remote and a 1.83 MacBook. Damn RDF.

Z

You brazen hussy you...;)

Man, I'd hate to think what would've happened if I'd had some spare cash lying around, a new 20" iMac would most definitely have my name on it by now, as would a 5G iPod and the radio remote.

Possibly iLife '06 for my iBook and a .mac subscription too....

Geezus, I'd be savagely broke but happy in a way too.

That was such a tough night, stayed up for the whole thing from 4am to the end of the keynote at 5:30am-ish then arsed around on the store site looking at specs before heading off to bed for a few hours. Just got back from the net café after downloading all the updates bar the iPod one - damn thing was released after I left so I'm back at home now on crappy dial-up getting it very very slowly.

10.4.4 running as happy as Larry on the iBook in my sig. Dashboard seems to be back to it's best after slowing down considerably in 10.4.3.

Anyone want to be a generous but anonymous benefactor and buy me a 1.83GHz MacBook Pro or a 20" iMac? Either would be just fine.

I have seriously gotta get me a better job. This hand to mouth BS is seriously cramping my ability to keep a multi-billion dollar computer company afloat....

[Wigletbill]

Why the heck did it move my bluetooth icon in the top right of my screen!? It is now on the right of the clock! Annoying! Other than that... snappy as a fresh green bean.

J

[hhlee]

I just downloaded this and now my bluetooth says "not available".

so did mine, restart and it'll return to normal, magically

[obecean]

I just installed 10.4.4 over 10.4.3 on a rev d 15 in stock powerbook. Upon restart I keep going to Darwin/BSD console login instead of OS X booting. I can login but if I try to exit it goes to a blue screen for a while with the gear turning but returns right back to the Darwin console. Anyone else have this? or know how to escape this loop? :confused:

[destroyboredom]

I'm still on 10.4.3 and my Bluetooth is to the right of the clock as well. I'm going to wait out this update for a few days. Seems like there are a lot of issues.

Why the heck did it move my bluetooth icon in the top right of my screen!? It is now on the right of the clock! Annoying! Other than that... snappy as a fresh green bean.

J

[donco]

Why the heck did it move my bluetooth icon in the top right of my screen!? It is now on the right of the clock! Annoying! Other than that... snappy as a fresh green bean.

J
Hold the command key and drag it wherever you want.

[Wigletbill]

Wild. Thanks.

[Low]

just did the update on x.3.9 and now my wireless card wont authenticate to my wireless router!!!

and when i run repair permissions, i get a disk utility internal error, wtf?!!! says its lost its connection with the Disk Management Tool and cannot continue....this sucks!! help!

[mad jew]

Does the Apple Menu icon seem more shaded in 10.4.4 or is that just me? I hope it is, it'd be the biggest news of the day IMO!

I hope my eyes aren't deceiving me. I'd hate to have to gouge them out. :(

[Bern]

I haven't installed it yet. I will be after I receive my ordered iLife '06 and done a complete reinstall (I usually do a yearly one).

[donco]

Does the Apple Menu icon seem more shaded in 10.4.4 or is that just me? I hope it is, it'd be the biggest news of the day IMO!

I hope my eyes aren't deceiving me. I'd hate to have to gouge them out. :(
As the Pixies said; "Gouge Away"... I haven't upgraded yet and it is the same.

[mad jew]

As the Pixies said; "Gouge Away"... I haven't upgraded yet and it is the same.


Oh dear... And I thought it looked brighter and better than ever... :(

*Gouges eyes from sockets*

[donco]

Oh dear... And I thought it looked brighter and better than ever... :(

*Gouges eyes from sockets*
A new upgrade always does that for me too :) seems like a whole new system sometimes.

[Chundles]

just did the update on x.3.9 and now my wireless card wont authenticate to my wireless router!!!

and when i run repair permissions, i get a disk utility internal error, wtf?!!! says its lost its connection with the Disk Management Tool and cannot continue....this sucks!! help!

You did what?

You can't run an update for 10.4 on a system running 10.3, if you want Tiger, you have to buy it. 10.3.9 is as far as you can go without spending any more money.

No wonder you're having problems.

[yojitani]

After the 10.4.3 upgrade the fans in my 1.6GHz G5 went CRAZY. After that upgrade the box OVERHEATS and crashes! To make it work I have an external fan the sits in front of the machine.

Did you set your processor performance to highest or reduced? 'Automatic' is usually the setting that freaks the fans out, so to speak. I had the same problem in 10.4.3 and manually changing those settings controls the fans. I just installed 10.4.4 and am waiting to see if it has improved on my machine.

[2nyRiggz]

sounds like u messed up your system dude..sorry...


Bless

[Low]

You did what?

You can't run an update for 10.4 on a system running 10.3, if you want Tiger, you have to buy it. 10.3.9 is as far as you can go without spending any more money.

No wonder you're having problems.

umm..no i wasnt trying to download 10.4...i just went in my software update and tried to download what was available. it had the QT download, and the ipod download and i believe the isight download but i dont have isight...at this point i dont need tiger...

[yojitani]

umm..no i wasnt trying to download 10.4...i just went in my software update and tried to download what was available. it had the QT download, and the ipod download and i believe the isight download but i dont have isight...at this point i dont need tiger...

Having just read back a little, it seems that apple took off the QT update - probably because it was unstable. You may be getting the worst of it. If you can, I'd recommend going to the support site to get the QT 7.0.3 (or whatever) UNINSTALLER or I suppose a regressor to an earlier version.

I never update QT straight away because if there are issues, I'm screwed...

Good luck.

YOJ

[yg17]

Anyone know if it does this to USB Overdrive as well? I'd hate to lose Expose on my mouse...:)

Doesnt mess up USB Overdrive. My MX1000 works the same it did before

[virus1]

10.4.4 apparently broke my airport in my 12" ibook g4. it isn't aware of any hardware, while i havent changed a physical thing since i shut down (when it was working just fine)

Edit: did another reboot and it is fine now.. odd

[mongoos150]

Aperture = still annoying bug where scrolling through albums is pixellated thumbnails for a split second...bizarrely this bug doesn't appear in full screen mode....

That's no bug, it happens on iPhoto and Adobe Lightroom as well, the images pixelate while you are scrolling to allow fast scrolling without having to render the entire image. You wouldn't have a very smooth scroll otherwise.

[mileslong]

so far so good except for the following. QT crashes after playing wmv file and doesnt play the audio on some mpg files that it did before, i will just wait for the correction update. blew out my transparent dock and frontrow hack. also messed up two themes in shapeshifter i had.

[Alex Cutter]

jand when i run repair permissions, i get a disk utility internal error, wtf?!!! says its lost its connection with the Disk Management Tool and cannot continue....this sucks!! help!
I got the same thing when I updated a friend from Jag/Panther to Tiger. Haven't been able to figure it out...everything else is working fine.

[mynameisjesse]

fixed the little gui errors i was having. overall, seems to be running better and spotlight has definitely improved. my processor tempeture average is lower than before but at the same time i do notice a fan noise increase.

[FadeToBlack]

Updated a few hours ago and so far, everything's been fine for me. It's a bit snappier and the new widgets are cool.

I'm also experiencing the QT crash after closing a .wmv file, but I figure that will be fixed soon. It's not really much of a problem to me.

[jlewis2k1]

i take it we cant install os x on a non-apple machine?

[EricNau]

i take it we cant install os x on a non-apple machine?
No, you can not

[Philoman]

Hey all you guys complaining about the OS update when everyone's computer do not have a healthy system or have old or incompatible driver or some odd conflicting software installed on your computer.

Format your hard drive then install a fresh healthy OS and see if the problem exists. I bet 9 out of 10 people will have no complains.

I am not defending Apple. I'm just tired of hearing people blame the hardware or the software when it's the user that caused the problem.

[michaelb]

Yes, you can if you know what you are doing - http://www.osx86project.org/ - but it's much easier (now) to just buy an Intel-based Mac.

[prostuff1]

My iBook update went fine and it seems to be running great. It started ip a bit snappier on the second start.

My iMac update is a little different. I did the update and everything just fine but when i went to restart it would not...well it did sort of. I let it sit for about 15 min and never did come back to the login screen. had to do a hard shutdown and restart. After that everthing worked fine. It screwed up some of my shapeshifter stuff and the front row hack i had install. But i never really used the front row hack anyway. besides if i really wanted to i could probably reinstall it...but i am to lazy to try.

All in all, fine update and nothing to dangerous here

[thomasp]

I've got a 120Mb download :eek:

Are there any issues with jumping straight from 10.4.2 to 10.4.4 - I didn't bother doing the 10.4.3 update since there was so much bad press about it. I'm running a 1.5 GHz G4 15" PowerBook (ooh, a "Classic" mac ;)) - the previous generation to the one with the dodgy screen.

Also, what differences are there between iTunes 5.0.1 and 6.0.2, apart from video support? Any major interface changes? Any nasty bugs?


Thanks :)

[bellis1]

Just installed and it locked up my primary account. It took 68+ revolutions before starting up, I only counted because it was taking so fricking long I probably missed about 30. I can get into another account and now it wants me to install quicktime 7.0.4. I hope that fixes the problem in the other account. I new better than to install it because I have to defend a dissertation in about 48 hours using this computer. Please please don't let me down.

Update: Back into my account but the fans are screaming. Another restart, sweet.

Update: Now its working except my computer is acting like it is on methamphetamines. Since I'm still in the spirit of complaining, Why was 10.4.3 so fricking slow? Damnit spoke too soon, stupid fans. I'd be sweating too. I just ran it through XBench and scored a 21.63 for a 1.2 ibook. Smoking!

[technicolor]

working well here

safari is faster

but it did remove alot of icons from my dock :confused:

[dantec]

Rule of thumb,

Always do multiple restarts after installing an Apple OS update. I usually do so in the following pattern after clicking restart in Software Update:

1. Let it boot to login screen then restart.
2. Let it boot again to the login screen then restart (the boot time now should be the regular one, not the extended 'i've just installed an os update' one)
3. This time log-in. Let the machine settle and load everything without opening anything. Then reboot.
4. Run Disk utility & macjanitor - then reboot.

Now from this you can deduce that either I am paranoid about rebooting my macs - or that I love the mac 'gong' :D

---

Updated 15" 1.5ghz Rev. B powerbook, Powermac G4 & 12" powerbook - all smoothly all with no problems. Granted perhaps because of my multiple reboots I did not encounter any problems with bluetooth or airport or anything of that nature...

[zync]

Has anyone noticed any improvements on their battery life from the 15" battery update? While watching the keynote it said I'd get 0:29, which I pretty much got. At least the damn thing was accurate. Of course it tells me that it'll take 0:37 to charge :mad: How can the battery on a two year old machine be so poor after so short a time? I mean it takes longer to charge than to discharge? WTF!?

I'm attempting to "calibrate" again according to the manual, which I've often done to no avail. Maybe this time I'll get lucky :rolleyes:

[FadeToBlack]

Rule of thumb,

Always do multiple restarts after installing an Apple OS update. I usually do so in the following pattern after clicking restart in Software Update:

1. Let it boot to login screen then restart.
2. Let it boot again to the login screen then restart (the boot time now should be the regular one, not the extended 'i've just installed an os update' one)
3. This time log-in. Let the machine settle and load everything without opening anything. Then reboot.
4. Run Disk utility & macjanitor - then reboot.

Now from this you can deduce that either I am paranoid about rebooting my macs - or that I love the mac 'gong' :D

---

Updated 15" 1.5ghz Rev. B powerbook, Powermac G4 & 12" powerbook - all smoothly all with no problems. Granted perhaps because of my multiple reboots I did not encounter any problems with bluetooth or airport or anything of that nature...

I usually only restart once after a Software Update. After repairing permissions, of course.

[gauchogolfer]

I've just updated a PB 15" rev D (G4) from 10.4.3 to 10.4.4 . At work I use Tunnelblick to interface with OpenVPN; never experienced any problems till this morning after the update. Any ideas on where to start looking?

BTW, it doesn't work on either Tunnelblick 2.0.1 or 3.0


EDIT: Strange, but a second reboot seems to have fixed it.....

[raincoat]

I just downloaded this and now my bluetooth says "not available".


This happened to me in 10.4.3 following a kernel panic due to bad ram.

Sorry this is slightly opff topic - just wanted to let u know that you are not alone

gonna wait a while before i upgrade

[iSaint]

I downloaded 10.4.4 tonight and everything's fine!

How many of us tried to download during the keynote when he announced it was coming out? *me*

[FadeToBlack]

I downloaded 10.4.4 tonight and everything's fine!

How many of us tried to download during the keynote when he announced it was coming out? *me*

Yep, I was following the MacRumors live feed and as soon as it said that 10.4.4 was out, I opened Software Update. :cool:

[Hattig]

Seems to be working fine on my iBook.

I don't understand the people that restart multiple times, or who repair permissions. It isn't Mac OS 9!

Install, Restart, Done!

[nomore]

Update went well on:

iMac G5 2GHz
Powerbook G4 1.33GHz
Mac Mini G4 1.25GHz
Powermac G5 Dual 2GHz (rev. A)

All took a while to restart though... especially the Mac Mini.

[zami]

My LaCie external DVD has stopped functioning with "DVD Player", tried reinstalling PatchBurn but no luck, ideas?

[dernhelm]

OK - so first thing to do - start iTunes, Edit, Hide Mini-Store.

Wow is that irritating.

Otherwise, install went fine on my PB 1.67GHz. The only thing I noticed is that the battery meter is actually reporting the proper time remaining again.

[zac4mac]

I see no difference to 10.4.3 on a revA G5DP2.0. Will run the update on my other Macs in the next couple of days; G4DP 550 and iBook 800 Combo. Can't wait to play with that new MacBook - if the hype is even close to reality, the 1.83 w/ a 7200 rpm drive should come close to or better the performance of my G5.

edit - gaaaak who thought that ugly mini store was a good idea?? Glad there's a menu item to hide it.

Z

[lexfuzo]

1st restart hung at blue screen
2nd came to login window after 2 mins
3rd went ok

Sys runs well now.

[cb911]

to people asking what the difference is between the new and previous versions of iTunes - i think the only, or main difference, is the iTunes "mini-store" at the bottom of the iTunes window.

[iScream]

me too!! lol, small world..

Absolutely same thing here too! And I live in Manc. Oh, er downloaded the update - 27megs, seems ok to me! :)

[BRLawyer]

Installed via SU on both machines, EVERYTHING fine so far...as usual, permission repair before and after...all is well here! ;)

[DJY]

Anyone else had Transparent Dock play up?
I can't seem to make my Dock transparent since upgrading to 10.4.4?

[Paul O'Keefe]

I just installed 10.4.4 over 10.4.3 on a rev d 15 in stock powerbook. Upon restart I keep going to Darwin/BSD console login instead of OS X booting. I can login but if I try to exit it goes to a blue screen for a while with the gear turning but returns right back to the Darwin console. Anyone else have this? or know how to escape this loop? :confused:

This happened to me about two months ago on my iMac. I'm not sure what caused it. I called apple support, but they could not guide me through this issue to boot it normally. His final advice was to do an archive and install of the OS from the system discs.

I had an iBook at the time and an external hard drive. So I booted up the iBook to access a Carbon Copy Cloner. I copied the iMac's large drive to the external for a backup and then using the system discs I did an archive and reinstall of the system.

It didn't work the greatest and I had a lot of problems. Eventually I did a clean install and migrated my files over from the the back-up. The only probably now is that Safari crashes loading certain pages frequently. My solution to that would be to delete my Safari prefrences and plist, but I don't really want to do that just yet.

[kretzy]

I've just noticed that a problem I've been having with Dashboard has finally been fixed. The fonts used in widgets seemed to be too big:
38531

Now they're back to normal:
38532

YAY! :) :) :)

[macnews]

Installed on a G5 imac (the one just before the isight) with no problems. I did repair permissions - and for those who ask why, because it is about the only maintenance you need to do in OSX and it is a HIGHLY recommended idea, a great troubleshooting procedure which fixes many problems I encounter in a lab of 25+ macs.

Speed wise, Dashboard is faster to bring up and in general use. Safari is noticably faster as well. I know people always say, it seems faster/slower, but this honestly IS faster - Dashboard "loaded" much smoother and approx 1 sec faster, 6 different web pages loaded 1-4 seconds faster in Safari. The rest of the OS is hard to say, I think about the only upgrades where the OS really was faster was 10.1.5 and 10.2.0 (from their previous versions).

[MrFusion]

I did the upgrade and ran the maintenance workflow. Mysql is working, because yoursql can still connect to the database. Personal filesharing is working, so I can connect to localhost with safari. And PHP is working because it gives a warning when connecting to the mysql database.

mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)

I tried google, hence the /var/mysql/mysql.sock in that line. But to no avail.
A few suggestions just link to sites with the same problem.

Any pointers?

[Diatribe]

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/19148

Thank you very much! :) Though I am still mad at Apple that they haven't been able to fix this in half a year....

[BRLawyer]

Installed on a G5 imac (the one just before the isight) with no problems. I did repair permissions - and for those who ask why, because it is about the only maintenance you need to do in OSX and it is a HIGHLY recommended idea, a great troubleshooting procedure which fixes many problems I encounter in a lab of 25+ macs.

Speed wise, Dashboard is faster to bring up and in general use. Safari is noticably faster as well. I know people always say, it seems faster/slower, but this honestly IS faster - Dashboard "loaded" much smoother and approx 1 sec faster, 6 different web pages loaded 1-4 seconds faster in Safari. The rest of the OS is hard to say, I think about the only upgrades where the OS really was faster was 10.1.5 and 10.2.0 (from their previous versions).

Can't tell about Safari, but I agree with ya on Dashboard...loading way faster on both my old iBook G3 and the iMac G5...go Apple!

[chelseasian]

I noticed that after updating my calendar widget which used to be red is now black and has a different layout. Did any one else spot yny other eye candy differences made by the update?:D

[Nethawk]

Oh lord, after the update I had to restart my PowerMac G5 (June 2004, 2x 2 GHz). 'Bout 5 minutes after the restart, the g5 fans are going crazy! The slowly increase their speed until you think you're sitting nearby a F14 turbine.

Hans anybody else experienced this problem? Any suggestions, solutions, etc?

Thanks a lot!

[iEric]

DAMN!!!! THE SAMSUNG PRINTER DRIVER THAT I JUST GOT WORKING FOR 10.4.3 DOESN'T WORK IN 10.4.4. ARG! Damn Samsung and their reluctancy for making new drivers for mac.

[andysmith]

My eMac updated fine, but took ages (at least 5mins) to boot.

Finder seems snappier™ ;)

[rashdown_online]

There's loads of posts here, and works been busy so haven't had time to read them to day, so this may have already been noted:

In iPhoto (v5) I can now import Nikon D50 *.NEF RAW files!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah! That means I can keep organised and then use CaptureOne pro when I want to get fancy with the stuff!!! Oh! Come to think of it, I need to re-think my workflow now :confused:

I'd use Aperture, but I don't have Virginia Tech under my desk :mad:

Still, when RevB PowerBook (sorry MacBook Pro) comes out, I'll see if Mr C. Card wants to come out to play!!!

[GekkePrutser]

Well, that worked. But yuck, that new calendar widget is ugly!! :) Especially those weird green letters.

Well I suppose it's a matter of taste. But I'm glad I tried this update first on the old PowerMac G3 at work, so I can still make a copy of the old red widget at home on the powerbook and put it back after installing the update. That'll do me fine.

By the way, I have to say I'm impressed with Apple's OS. The very latest still runs fine on a machine that's about 6 years old. Try that with Windows :rolleyes: It's not snappy but you can work on it and it is responsive enough. We use it here for troubleshooting customer issues.

Edit: Now that I've read the thread I see everyone else loves the new calendar. Sorry, didn't mean any offense :) Like I said it's a matter of taste..

[pgwalsh]

Dashboard was cool for 5 minutes after I loaded Tiger. Then I realized how much CPU those little buggers use...

Needless to say, I will not be loading these new widgets on.
Here's an AppleScript that will turn it off and on for you.

http://scriptbuilders.net/files/dashboardonoff.01.html

[quigleybc]

Oh lord, after the update I had to restart my PowerMac G5 (June 2004, 2x 2 GHz). 'Bout 5 minutes after the restart, the g5 fans are going crazy! The slowly increase their speed until you think you're sitting nearby a F14 turbine.

Hans anybody else experienced this problem? Any suggestions, solutions, etc?

Thanks a lot!



After reading through these posts I've come to conclude that I will be saying "F this to the update." Just too many posters saying that the update makes things go wacky on Power Mac G5's...

The fans sound like they get worse, the chirp is still there and for just a speedier dashboard and a green calender widget....think I'll pass..my OS is fine for now.

[Nethawk]

After reading through these posts I've come to conclude that I will be saying "F this to the update." Just too many posters saying that the update makes things go wacky on Power Mac G5's...

The fans sound like they get worse, the chirp is still there and for just a speedier dashboard and a green calender widget....think I'll pass..my OS is fine for now.

100 % ACK

I tried resetting the PMU and zapping the PRAM - no luck

My G5 howls like a turbine. I'm now reinstalling OS X 10.4 and will then apply the 10.4.3 combo update. Thanks a lot for scuttling my day - 10.4.4 b*st*rd.

[quigleybc]

100 % ACK

I tried resetting the PMU and zapping the PRAM - no luck

My G5 howls like a turbine. I'm now reinstalling OS X 10.4 and will then apply the 10.4.3 combo update. Thanks a lot for scuttling my day - 10.4.4 b*st*rd.


So, your fans just keep freaking out? they don't eventually settle down? uggh, that sucks...

what's the deal??

[raster]

I send a lot of jpegs (Both RGB and CMYK) in my emails with the Mail program.
When viewing the images in the Mail program, I have never had any problem until this morning. (Last night I downloaded and installed 10.4.4)
Now cmyk files are reversed. (Negatives)
Does anyone have any comments or suggestions with this?

Anyone else have this problem.

Thanks

[nien0029]

I haven't been able to find the update list of supported RAW files in 10.4.4 Did you use trial and error of find an updated list? Thanks...
There's loads of posts here, and works been busy so haven't had time to read them to day, so this may have already been noted:

In iPhoto (v5) I can now import Nikon D50 *.NEF RAW files!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah! That means I can keep organised and then use CaptureOne pro when I want to get fancy with the stuff!!! Oh! Come to think of it, I need to re-think my workflow now :confused:

I'd use Aperture, but I don't have Virginia Tech under my desk :mad:

Still, when RevB PowerBook (sorry MacBook Pro) comes out, I'll see if Mr C. Card wants to come out to play!!!

[Bitman]

10.4.4 is working great for me. No problems whatsoever. Plus it fixed a screen buffer problem with Blender!!!

2.5 G5 PM
NVIDIA 6800 GT

[GhostFace]

You guys are lucky to get the update. I am in Afghanistan where the so called T1 line is more like dial-up. I am still stuck on 10.4.2. I hope they work some of the bugs out when I get home in March.

[Lacero]

Has the ability to tab while in F10 Exposé mode always been there? I don't ever remembering having this functionality with the way the windows move.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[Doctor Q]

Has the ability to tab while in F10 Exposé mode always been there? I don't ever remembering having this functionality with the way the windows move.It's not new. F10-tab previous did the same thing: rotating through active applications and moving and resizing the windows for each application (F9 style) to keep them from overlapping.

To make sure you see which window is active, even a window that does not need resizing will momentarily dance (grow-shrink a little) to get your attention when you tab to its application.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Has the ability to tab while in F10 Exposé mode always been there? I don't ever remembering having this functionality with the way the windows move.Always might be to strong a word, but I think that's been there since Exposé was introduced... ;)

[sboultbee]

That still doesn't change the fact that 7.0.4 crashes when you close a WMV. Apple is probably working on fixing the underlying problem, rather than that particular instance of it.

Flip4Mac has confirmed that there is a bug with their WMV player version 2.0 with QuickTime 7.0.4. Until Flip4Mac posts an update, you have to revert to version 1 (1.0.3 was the latest, I think) of their player or use QT 7.0.3.

http://www.flip4mac.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=822&enterthread=y

[winmacguy]

Flip4Mac has confirmed that there is a bug with their WMV player version 2.0 with QuickTime 7.0.4. Until Flip4Mac posts an update, you have to revert to version 1 (1.0.3 was the latest, I think) of their player or use QT 7.0.3.

http://www.flip4mac.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=822&enterthread=y
I just read this:eek:
"Reports also surfaced Wednesday that Flip4Mac's application was unstable with the latest version of QuickTime, version 7.0.4. Crashes of QuickTime and Safari were reported on numerous Web sites. The company told users that it is working on a fix for the issue and hopes to have it released by Thursday.

Microsoft had not responded to a request for comment by press time."

[Lacero]

I find it rather funny.

A company finally offers a product for free as a gesture of generosity, only to have their product cause wide-scale crashing on Macs worldwide. A public relations nightmare, if I've ever seen one.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[cb911]

well looks like a few restarts and a fsck -f seems to have fixed all Dock and menu borky-ness... :rolleyes:

note to self - 3 x reboot + repair permissions + fsck it up = silver bullet to happy user experience.

:p

[MartinAyla]

The update says new ATI drivers.

Does anyone know which version gets installed with the update?

[weezer160]

Is it just me or after just having installed 10.4.4., the Bluetooth icon in the System Preferences is missing? Did the update take it out? Can anybody confirm this? :confused:

[cb911]

funny, this page doesn't say anything specific about the CoreImage updates or new ATI drivers. i guess they figure that the user wouldn't be concerned with the specifics...

and no, the Bluetooth section in system preferences is still there. maybe try a reboot..? or 3. :p :D

[Project]

Well ive just spent the past 3 hours trying to figure out exactly what went wrong with my iBook, but it was Kernel Panicing like crazy. I couldnt even get online long enough to make a post about it. I have a presentation to run off my iBook in the morning so lets just say I was extremely pissed off.

Lets recap.

I updated to 10.4.4
Several hours later the Mac crashes for the first time since I switched 3 months ago.
It crashes again.
Kernel panic!
More kernel panics!
So as soon as I logged in, I created a dummy account then rebooted with it. The dummy account would crash too so I knew that it was a system problem. This leads me to believe it was 10.4.4
I did an archive and install.
No kernel panics this far. Exported my presentation to Powerpoint and emailed it myself just in case.

Any thoughts? I have not installed any hardware. Its as it was prebuilt. It cant be a hardware problem.

I installed shapeshifter several weeks ago and uninstalled it about 4 days ago.

Everything in my opinion leads to 10.4.4. I want to update because im now back to 10.4.2 but I really dont want to go through this hassle again.

On another note, my iBook is FAST again. I thought Macs didnt slow down like Windows after time?

[cb911]

ShapeShifter shouldn't have caused any trouble. maybe it was the update... i don't know what you can do other than try again, and after the update repair permissions and maybe run a fsck.

your iBook probably 'slowed down' because of software that you'd installed. each piece of software adds it's own preference file, sometimes even more than 1. if you're installing lots of different software, that can add up. probably lots of other useless things in your library that you didn't need either, which are gone now that you re-installed.

[Project]

ShapeShifter shouldn't have caused any trouble. maybe it was the update... i don't know what you can do other than try again, and after the update repair permissions and maybe run a fsck.

your iBook probably 'slowed down' because of software that you'd installed. each piece of software adds it's own preference file, sometimes even more than 1. if you're installing lots of different software, that can add up. probably lots of other useless things in your library that you didn't need either, which are gone now that you re-installed.

I did repair permissions after updating. Not sure what an fsck is.

And I still have all my software here. I even added garageband and x11 on the archive and reinstall. But its running super fast. Must be something clogging up the system. Put it this way I wont be running any haxies whatsoever anymore.

[Project]

Damn, another kernel panic. Somebody help me, please :(

I dont have an external harddrive. I cant afford to lose my music collection.

[cb911]

i'm not sure if kernel panics can cause data loss... but i'm sure it's not good.

what were you doing when it had the panic?

i'd start to burn my music collection and other data if i was you...

to run a fsck (filesystem check) you'll need to boot into Single User Mode. restart your computer and hold down cmd+s. you'll see a screen of text instead of the normal OS X startup. just type fsck and hit enter. if you're running a journaled file system, it'll tell you what to do.

then just type reboot and hit enter when it's done.

also you could try the hardware diagnosis CD/DVD that came with OS X.

[Project]

I was logging into the www.o2.co.uk website when it first happened. All I remember is the site taking an age to load, then boom.

Im worried I will have to do a clean install. As I said, I dont have an external drive though I could buy one on payday soon. My problem is that I dont know whether I will have enough time to copy my 30gigs or so of music to the external drive before I see a kernel panic again.

[AndrewWx]

Just Upgraded. Downloaded the 55mb update from Apple. Ran Cocktail Pilot with a restart. Updated my 2Ghz 20" iMac from the downloaded file. Restarted and ran Cocktail Pilot with a restart.

No Problems noticed. No real diferences noted either. Dashboard still seems a little sluggish to start up.

iPhoto does not see RAW files from a D200, but does the JPEGs just fine.

Looking forward to the new iLife

Will upgrade my Powerbook next.

[e-coli]

I hope it fixes that chirping problem, although I haven't heard that in a while (maybe I'm used to it).

Mine does that too. drives me NUTS.

[abc123]

this is my 3rd attempt at installing this, every time i get slapped with a try again message :(

[artifex]

This may be a dumb question, but why do people do OS updates when they know they're about to have to depend on their machines for presentations, etc.?
Seriously. You should always wait until after the immediate need has passed, or at least until you have a few hours you can lose to recovering from the update.

Maybe I just expect this because I'm from the world of PCs? :)

[nomad01]

This may be a dumb question, but why do people do OS updates when they know they're about to have to depend on their machines for presentations, etc.?

Sigh... because it might just make the presentation even better!! Isn't it obvious? ;)

[Dalriada]

Updated to 10.4.4 with abt a 27MB download. Repaired permissions b4 and after and all running sweet and smooth (although did take quite a while to reboot after DL) ;)

[LukeW]

Have an isight iMac G5, the update runs beautifully and have had none of the problems listed so far, certainly no fan problems, the machine is incredibly quiet. Next need to update the iBook. Cross fingers.

[brepublican]

Did anyone notice a subtle change with the slideshow feature in Finder? (Or did someone already mention this?) There's now an "Add to iPhoto" option

[yojitani]

Im worried I will have to do a clean install. As I said, I dont have an external drive though I could buy one on payday soon. My problem is that I dont know whether I will have enough time to copy my 30gigs or so of music to the external drive before I see a kernel panic again.

Since you only got the machine a few months ago, you should be covered by apple care. Give them a call.

One other thing though, I think that even if you do an archive and install, the apps themselves don't change - are not adjusted. A lot of people have been having problems with Quicktime causing system instabilities - flip4mac, for example,conflicts with X.4.4. There is a way to switch back to an earlier version of QT: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime701reinstallerforquicktime704.html

Try this and see how you get on. If your system is saying all the hardware is fine, I'd guess it's an app. problem.

YOJ

[cb911]

someone previously asked what was new in this version of iTunes. i said it was only the iTMS mini store. i think i lied. sorry. :o

i just realised that in iTunes 6.0.2 there's also "Multiple Speakers" available to select. not just your computer speakers, and not just your speakers that are hooked upto AirTunes, but you can play music through both at the same time! :D pretty neat!

[maya]

I am glad to read all the reviews of your brave souls in regards to this update. I am not brave enough to join you all with the restarts every so often. ;) :D

10.4.3 will have to do it for now, until 10.4.4b is released. :D

[ortuno2k]

27MB update for me on my iMac G5. Upgraded from 10.4.3
Been working fine since restart, 2days 5hrs, no problems :)

[EricNau]

Just updated mine. - No problems

I don't really see any differences, except for the new widgets. :)

[cb911]

maya - go on and update. a few restarts are always good to scare off the Mac-gremlins. :D and i'll bet any issues have resolved themselves by then.

i also noticed today using Illustrator CS2, all the 'Aqua blue' bits seem alot brighter. maybe some Aqua resources have been updated? anyone else notice this.

and no, i'm not even using ShapeShifter.

[call-151]

Downgraded to QT 7.0.1
Ran Cocktail
Disconnected all peripherals
Installed delta update (27.6M)
Reboot
Repaired permissions
Reboot with CMD+S
fsck -f
reboot

All's well with my PB 1.67 2gig- No ram missing, no audio out problems, no keyboard weirdness (built-in or usb)

Nothing seems faster, nothing seems slower

[theranch]

I take back my earlier post of "no problems". I too updated, repaired permissions, booted in Single user ran fsck but I am occassionally getting periods where I can't force quit apps that are beach ballin' so I wind up restarting by ctrl + command + power. After that I reboot in single user again and run fsck.
I hope it doesn't persist.

[aquafina]

With this update, the mouse pointer now has lost it's mind. It no longer changes shape based on what it is hovering over (ie, it is normally an arrow, but if you hover over a webbutton or weblink, it changes to a hand, and if you hover over text, it changes to the ibeam) This no longer works on 10.4.4. Really annoying. Also in safari, if you hover over a link, it no longer shows where the link goes in the status bar. Also, you cannot click on a menu title and let go, the menu items do not get hilighted. You must keep the button pressed for the hilighting to work.

Also, when you click an app from the dock, it opens in the background, not the foreground. so once the icon stops bouncing, I have to click the app again before the app shows in front of other apps running.

Does Apple not do any HF testing of a new update before it ships?

[Peace]

With this update, the mouse pointer now has lost it's mind. It no longer changes shape based on what it is hovering over (ie, it is normally an arrow, but if you hover over a webbutton or weblink, it changes to a hand, and if you hover over text, it changes to the ibeam) This no longer works on 10.4.4. Really annoying. Also in safari, if you hover over a link, it no longer shows where the link goes in the status bar. Also, you cannot click on a menu title and let go, the menu items do not get hilighted. You must keep the button pressed for the hilighting to work.

Also, when you click an app from the dock, it opens in the background, not the foreground. so once the icon stops bouncing, I have to click the app again before the app shows in front of other apps running.

Does Apple not do any HF testing of a new update before it ships?


All of the above things work fine for me..

[Peter Griffin]

So are we supposed to sort out these problems ourselves or does Apple usually release another upgrade/patch :confused:

[cb911]

not everyone experiences these 'bugs' so that means it's only to do with that person's OS X install or hardware/software combination. Apple can't 'fix' OS X so that it solves indivual problems from a single persons installation of OS X.

most likely if you repair permissions, ect, fsck, reboot, reboot then the problems go away. sometimes it's just a weird install of OS X and nothing will fix it, it needs to be re-installed.

so yeah, you've gotta find out what's causing the buggyness.

[encro]

I did repair permissions - and for those who ask why, because it is about the only maintenance you need to do in OSX and it is a HIGHLY recommended idea, a great troubleshooting procedure which fixes many problems I encounter in a lab of 25+ macs.


Amazing how so called administrators recommend a placebo to everyone, I listen to this all the time at work. Not to say that its not worth ensuring that your permissions are in check but repairing permissions is very rarely a solution if your system has genuine problems.

Some examples of genuine solutions:

Corrupt Parameter Ram:
Reset NVRAM (cmd-opt-P-R)

Application Launch Issues:
Clean up your Launch Services Database
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

Spotlight Search Issues:
Recreate the .Spotlight-V100 database
mdutil -E /

[encro]

Automator
Convert iPhoto Item Object to Alias Object

/Applications/
DVD Player
Preview
Safari
iChat
iSync

/Applications/Utilities/
Activity Monitor
Bluetooth File Exchange
ODBC Administrator
System Profiler

/System/Library/Widgets/
Address Book
Business
Calculator
Calendar
ESPN
Google
People
Phone Book [removed :: replaced by People & Business Widgets]
Ski Report
Stocks

/System/Library/WidgetResources/
AppleClasses/

/System/Library/CoreServices/
Bluetooth Setup Assistant.app
BluetoothUIServer.app
Dock.app [Dock is now less touch sensitive to the mouse when hidden]
Finder.app
CoreTypes.bundle
OBEXAgent.app
Search.bundle
Software Update.app
SystemUIServer.app
SystemVersion.plist
WindowServer
bluetoothlauncher
checkfixlist

/System/Library/DTDs/
CoreData.dtd

/System/Library/Extensions/
ATIRadeon.kext
ATIRadeon8500.kext
ATIRadeon8500DVDDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon8500GA.plugin
ATIRadeon8500GLDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon8500VADriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700.kext
ATIRadeon9700DVDDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin
ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700VADriver.bundle
ATIRadeonDVDDriver.bundle
ATIRadeonGA.plugin
ATIRadeonGLDriver.bundle
AppleAltiVecDVDDriver.bundle
AppleBlower.kext
AppleI2C.kext
AppleKiwiRoot.kext
AppleLM87.kext
AppleMacRISC4PE.kext
AppleNDRV/ATIDriver.bundle
AppleNDRV/ATIRuntimeDriver.bundle
AudioIPCDriver.kext
AppleVADriver.bundle
DVFamily.bundle
GeForce.kext
GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle
GeForce3GLDriver.bundle
GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle
GeForceGA.plugin
GeForceVADriver.bundle
IOBluetoothFamily.kext
IOFireWireFamily.kext
IOSerialFamily.kext
IOStorageFamily.kext
IOUSBFamily.kext
IPFirewall.kext
NVDANV10Hal.kext
NVDANV20Hal.kext
NVDANV30Hal.kext
NVDAResman.kext
System.kext
msdosfs.kext

/System/Library/Fonts/
Courier.dfont
Monaco.dfont

/System/Library/Frameworks/
AppKit.framework
ApplicationServices.framework
Automator.framework
Carbon.framework
CoreAudio.framework
CoreData.framework
CoreFoundation.framework
CoreServices.framework
DVComponentGlue.framework
DVDPlayback.framework
IOBluetooth.framework
IOBluetoothUI.framework
InstantMessage.framework
Kernel.framework
OpenGL.framework
Quartz.framework
QuartzCore.framework
Security.framework
SyncServices.framework
SystemConfiguration.framework
WebKit.framework

/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleVA.framework
BezelServices.framework
ByteRangeLocking.framework
Calculate.framework
DiskManagement.framework
DotMacLegacy.framework
ISSupport.framework
Install.framework
JavaScriptGlue.framework
PSNormalizer.framework
SPSupport.framework
ScreenReader.framework
Slideshow.framework
SyncLegacy.framework
Syndication.framework
SyndicationUI.framework
VideoConference.framework

/System/Library/QuickTime/
QuartzComposer.component

/System/Library/Security/
tokend

/System/Library/SyncServices/Schemas/
Calendars.syncschema

/System/Library/SystemConfiguration/
Bluetooth.bundle
IPMonitor.bundle


/System/Library/SystemProfiler/
SPApplicationsReporter.spreporter
SPBluetoothReporter.spreporter


/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/
Bluetooth.menu

/System/Library/Components/
IOFWDVComponents.component

/System/Library/Image Capture/Devices/
PTPCamera.app
Type5Camera.app

/System/Library/LoginPlugins/
BezelServices.loginPlugin

/System/Library/PreferencePanes/
Bluetooth.prefPane [Much Improved!]

/System/Library/Printers/Libraries/
USBGenericTOPrintingClass.plugin

/mach_kernel

/private/etc/
mach_init.d

/private/var/db/
CodeEquivalenceCandidates

/private/var/db/dyld/
update-prebinding-paths.txt

/sbin/
fsck_hfs
ipfw

/usr/bin/
c_rehash
openssl
php
setregion
sudo

/usr/lib/
libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib
libcurl.3.dylib
libresolv.9.dylib
libssl.0.9.7.dylib

/usr/lib/pkgconfig/
openssl.pc

/usr/lib/sasl2/
libgssapiv2.2.0.18.so

/usr/libexec/
bootpd

/usr/libexec/cups/backend/
bluetooth

/usr/libexec/httpd/
libphp4.so
libssl.so

/usr/sbin/
DirectoryService
blued
configd
lookupd
mDNSResponder
notifyd
racoon
scutil
securityd
smbd
syslogd
system_profiler
visudo

[cb911]

thanks for posting that encro. now for those wanting to know which graphics drivers were updated... ;)

[zagato27]

After the 10.4.3 upgrade the fans in my 1.6GHz G5 went CRAZY. After that upgrade the box OVERHEATS and crashes! To make it work I have an external fan the sits in front of the machine.

I thought 10.4.4 would have corrected the issue as 10.3.9 did after the 10.3.8 update caused the same fan problems, but I of course was wrong!

I must admit, I have never been this UNHAPPY as a MAC user as I am now! I really mean that. It just seems that there is one thing after the other!

I've got a 1.6 G5 and completed the update. Everything works great. I've often questioned others when they said a particular update made their machine seem "snappier" but I can really see the difference. It is snappier. I'm a happy camper. As to the fan issues with a 1.6 G5....I haven't had any. I have had some crashes but attribute that to my 9 yr old who goes to an online game site and seems to never log off.:( . BTW, I don't have a bunch of "tweaks". Transparent Dock is about it. Smooth as silk so far and keeping my fingers crossed

[zagato27]

Too much good stuff happening. The updates work fine, I have just one question though, how do you get rid of the iTunes windows when you are looking at regular iTunes stuff.

I don't need the music store there all the time.
Pardon me if this has been answered but I haven't gotten all the way through the thread. After downloading the iTunes update I was a bit upset at seeing the iTunes store stuff at the bottom but started to investigate the buttons. Bottom right corner has a button that turns "on/off" the store stuff. I'm happy again. Cheers

[solidbreakz]

10.4.3 update made my gf's Dual 1.8 PMG5 fan system get a serious case of bipolar disorder. Even when setting Processor to Reduced and Automatic, the intermittent noise didn't subside. Same issue is present after a 10.4.4 update. Back to 10.4.2, yet AGAIN!!

This sort of support oversight on Apple's part for their professional level machines does NOT bode well for us soon-to-be 'legacy' PPC users.

[visor]

Everything is much slower, lots of beachballs in even the simplest tasks.. I feel set back to jaguar. Kind of like all the g4 optimation has gone out in order to make that universal binary run better on intel or whatever.:mad:

[à la Mac]

It's running great here :).

[sunfast]

It's running great here :).

And here...

[MacinDoc]

Was forced to update my iPhoto library...

[Riot_Mac]

Amazing how so called administrators recommend a placebo to everyone, I listen to this all the time at work. Not to say that its not worth ensuring that your permissions are in check but repairing permissions is very rarely a solution if your system has genuine problems.

Some examples of genuine solutions:

Corrupt Parameter Ram:
Reset NVRAM (cmd-opt-P-R)

Application Launch Issues:
Clean up your Launch Services Database
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

Spotlight Search Issues:
Recreate the .Spotlight-V100 database
mdutil -E /

How do I clean up my Launch services database? Do i type copy that line into terminal exactly like you have above? I get some apps that just bounce forever and also sometimes cant force quit when i get the beachball. Please let me know.

[encro]

How do I clean up my Launch services database? Do i type copy that line into terminal exactly like you have above? I get some apps that just bounce forever and also sometimes cant force quit when i get the beachball. Please let me know.


Straight into the Terminal enter:

/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user


A reboot is probably a good idea afterwards also.

[Platform]

Well for anyone still on the fense, no problems for me, improved RAM managment ;)

[anothernewbie]

Low:
I had the same problem and Apple Care showed me a work-around. The problem comes from the latest iTunes update in 10.3.x. Here's what you do to restore permissions:
Go to your HD>Library>Receipts. You must find two files in receipts and drag them to your desktop. Find: itunes.pkg and itunes4.pkg, drag them to your desktop then use repair permissions in your disc utility. When finished put the two files back into receipts.
If, and when, a new itunes update comes out we may not need to do this everytime we repair permissions.

[rioter00]

I've tried every different update size of 10.4.4 from Apple and every time the install gets up to ~25%, it stops and tells me there's been an error, please try again. I've been re-trying since it came. I don't know what to do make it work. Thanks.

http://ancillary.org/wp/wp-content/error.jpg