Found Major Glitch On Ds!!!! (not really that major)

[DevilDog]

I was hooking my DS and PowerBook up to one speaker system with a new 'y' adapter that I had just bought, and I heard Bon Jovi coming out of my DS!!! I had the cable plugged halfway into the headphone jack on Advance Wars DS and It was coming out garbled at full volume. The slider for volume only affects the game music coming out, which was pretty much drowned out by itunes. Im thinking it' kind of like the iPod's video out...Any cable will work, but the things inside are switched so that they are only supposed to be able to work with a certain cable. Can anyone else confirm this? Or is my DS just defective? Will Metroid Hunters be the first game to include the headset??? Or, can anybody figure out how to make it not sound garbled??

[homerjward]

I was hooking my DS and PowerBook up to one speaker system with a new 'y' adapter that I had just bought, and I heard Bon Jovi coming out of my DS!!! I had the cable plugged halfway into the headphone jack on Advance Wars DS and It was coming out garbled at full volume. The slider for volume only affects the game music coming out, which was pretty much drowned out by itunes. Im thinking it' kind of like the iPod's video out...Any cable will work, but the things inside are switched so that they are only supposed to be able to work with a certain cable. Can anyone else confirm this? Or is my DS just defective? Will Metroid Hunters be the first game to include the headset??? Or, can anybody figure out how to make it not sound garbled??
another reason the psp is superior. there's an anti-bon jovi chip built-in on the logic board :D



just kidding :o

[2nyRiggz]

another reason the psp is superior. there's an anti-bon jovi chip built-in on the logic board :D



just kidding :o


You can get cursed for jokes like this.....do you know where you are? this is NintendoLand where everything big N is A okay!:p

Bless

[homerjward]

You can get cursed for jokes like this.....do you know where you are? this is NintendoLand where everything big N is A okay!:p

Bless
i got nothin against the ds--i <3 playin mario kart and advance wars on my bro's--just a joke :p

[GimmeSlack12]

What a major glich this is indeed, someone please call the FBI on it. We have got to do something.

C'mon, how irrelevant is this? Don't be so dramatic on your thread titles.

[steve_hill4]

Ditto, I was expecting to read something much more dramatic than this.

Still, it's always valid to post information like this, just don't hype up the title too much or it will annoy some. It would be like me finding the dreaded minus figures in iTunes and then posting a topic "Major bug in iTunes", only for everyone who read it to then flame me for wasting their time on such a minor issue.

[yankeefan24]

you guys might want to start a head hunt. i love almost everything sony, including the vaio's design, and DEFINITELY the PSP. i have the ds, and it was good until i got the psp and relized how bad it was.

[GFLPraxis]

you guys might want to start a head hunt. i love almost everything sony, including the vaio's design, and DEFINITELY the PSP. i have the ds, and it was good until i got the psp and relized how bad it was.

The world disagrees with you.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c268/satoru2005/crt2.jpg

IMO DS has a way better games lineup, and that seems to be the opinion of IGN and a lot of others.

[paddy]

The world disagrees with you.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c268/satoru2005/crt2.jpg


Dont get me wrong I love the DS but you cant compare global sales between the DS and PSP 'cos the DS has been on sale a few months more.:rolleyes:

[Dagless]

Woah! I thought you were going to say something a little more major than that! like game wiping or the top screen being turned into a porn receiver!

I may know the reason for this minor glitch too. The headphone port is really a headphone and microphone input port (you can get headphone/mic headsets from 3rd party companies) so there is a Mic input in the port. My guess is that the sound is that a bit of the line sound is being pumped in.

In other news I can't wait for Tetris DS, Metroid, Zelda, Pokemon :D

[mrgreen4242]

Dont get me wrong I love the DS but you cant compare global sales between the DS and PSP 'cos the DS has been on sale a few months more.:rolleyes:

DS was first released in NA on Nov 21, 2004, PSP in Japan on Dec 12, 2004. The DS hit Japan next on Dec 2, and the PSP in NA on March 24 '05.

The overall difference globally was a couple weeks. But even if you want to look at NA only, it was a 4 month head start... 13 months vs. 9 months. On a per month basis, the DS is still outselling the PSP by something like 33%.

So even in a comparison that is skewed to help the PSP it loses. Game companies know it, too. Look at the stunning lack of games for the PSP and the huge surge in DS titles. Personally, I'm waiting for both a price drop to $99, and/or a redesigned unit, and/or an online multiplayer Zelda.

[yankeefan24]

Dont get me wrong I love the DS but you cant compare global sales between the DS and PSP 'cos the DS has been on sale a few months more.:rolleyes:

the ds has been on sale longer, and the ds is not a bad system. i just think that the games on the psp are better IN GENERAL. I'm going to try to find the source of that graph and the most recent sales results. I just think that that graph is inflated or old.

[kingcrowing]

well, honestly, you can think the PSP is better, and I'm not saying it has no games, It has GTA, socom, infected, and a couple others, but the DS has: Advanced wars, Mario 64, mario kart, FF IV, and then TONS of interactive games like feel the magic, warioworld. trauma center etc. Then it has backwards compatability with GBA games, so you have titels like Zelda, pokemon, and all the other standard nintendo classics, and like jimmi siad, theres still tones of big one on their way to the DS (IE zelda, pokemon and metroid!) and those will all be out by this summer I believe. Not to bomb the PSP, its a very powerful and great system, from a graphical standpoint its awesome, but from a gameplay standpoint its not that great, at least not till there are more games, and also, the DS games are $15-$30 new, the PSP games are $40-$50, so for the price of one PSP game I could get 2-3 DS games.

[greatdevourer]

Dont get me wrong I love the DS but you cant compare global sales between the DS and PSP 'cos the DS has been on sale a few months more.:rolleyes: The DS was outselling the PSP in the PSP's opening week

I don't want this to turn into a console war, but I prefer the DS because it's a portable console, not a TV console crammed into a portable box. The games are the sorta games that you could whip out while waiting for a train, play for a coupla minutes, then put it away until the next stop.

[GFLPraxis]

Dont get me wrong I love the DS but you cant compare global sales between the DS and PSP 'cos the DS has been on sale a few months more.:rolleyes:

Take weekly, monthly, or yearly sales, DS wins every time and by quote a large margin.

In Japan, the DS has been outselling the PSP four-to-one for the last eight weeks.

the ds has been on sale longer, and the ds is not a bad system. i just think that the games on the psp are better IN GENERAL. I'm going to try to find the source of that graph and the most recent sales results. I just think that that graph is inflated or old.

No. That graph is Japanese sales as of three weeks ago. The reason it appears 'inflated' is that the DS and PSP sell evenly in the U.S., but the DS outsells the PSP anywhere from 2x-6x every week in Japan, with the exception of the last two weeks where after selling 400,000-600,000 units a week for eight weeks in a row the DS finally sold out nation-wide. That chart is for Japan.

Trust me on this, it's my job to keep track of these numbers, I was involved in creating that graph.


If you go by worldwide- Nintendo has 13 million DS's SOLD, Sony has 10 million PSP's SHIPPED (big difference- sold means people bought them, shipped means they sent them to stores).

In fact, at this point the Nintendo DS has a record as the fastest selling handheld in history and the fastest console to reach the 10 million mark.


As I recall, the PSP actually did outsell the DS for 2005 (looking year by year) by a tiny amount because it launched (highest sales are always at launch) in 2005, but overall the DS sold a million more. UK sales, the latest numbers I have are from December 2005:
UK total as of December 17:
DS 846,000
PSP 668,600

And I know that the DS has hit a million sold in the UK in that last month.
http://www.nintendoplayers.com/article.php?articleID=34

Game sales in Japan have had 7/10 of the top ten games being NDS games every week, the other three usually Square Enix games on PS2 (Kingdom Hearts II and others just came out).

Even ignoring worldwide sales, the DS outsells the PSP weekly.

I don't want this to be a console war either, but I do want to point out that the DS is selling more than the PSP and DS games are selling more than the PSP so the console can't be as "bad" as you say it is.

[kingcrowing]

you just owned his face! *hugs DS* lol

[Dagless]

Aye I'm just waiting for a must-have title for the PSP. I'm seeing a lot for the DS but none for the PSP. soon as Sony fix the dead pixel issue (or make buying a PSP seem less like a gamble), sort out this homebrew crap (all i'm hearing is that its been blocked here, you have to get around by cracking the Davinci code... etc) and have some games that appeal to me. some thinking game like Advance Wars or an all out brilliant racer like Mario Kart. I'll probably get one next year.

...I don't want this to be a console war either, but I do want to point out that the DS is selling more than the PSP and DS games are selling more than the PSP so the console can't be as "bad" as you say it is.

course its bad. the DS is ugly and has a major glitch. and its really REALLY bad lolzers.

Its nice to see shops like Game and Gamestation in the UK, who really don't like Nintendo much. they have HUGE sections devoted to PSP and entire walls to PS2, where the GBA and DS have a shelf or 2. even though the DS is outselling the PSP and the GBA outselling the PS2. god i love bias.

[Thanatoast]

Considering that the PSP costs twice what the DS costs, it can't be too bad to be only losing the battle by 33%, right?

[GFLPraxis]

Have you guys been keeping track of Animal Crossing in Japan? On its first week it took the #1 spot on the top ten selling games. Second week #2. Third week #4. Then it went back to the #2 spot and just stayed there. Even with Kingdom Hearts II. It is now 8 weeks since launch and it is still the #2 selling game this week and they've already sold 1.56 million copies.

Brain Training is still in 9th place despite being in its 28th week :eek:

EDIT:
Check this out.
http://static.flickr.com/43/82975133_1edc41b36b_o.png

That should effectively kill the "DS is only winning because it launched earlier" myth. And to kill the "Well PSP costs more" myth, the PSP costs $199 in Japan, and look at it :P

Also note that in the middle, they are both very close to the bottom. As I recall, in that period the DS was selling 50,000 a week and PSP 30,000. The DS was selling almost twice as much. The chart reflects that, but they're so close to the bottom that it looks like they're close together.

[2nyRiggz]

Considering the PSP is still a new system and it doesnt have that stack of games that DS have(because of the GBA) give it a few more months when the games start coming then we will see where the standing is. DS games are fun though but the PSP is still holding it's own.

...Now bring on the N Hounds of hell.:rolleyes:


Bless

[kingcrowing]

I think that the PSP has had plenty of time, its been like a year and everyone KEEPS SAYING that, no games have come out that are really worth $50, its just tons of friggin UMD movies...

[calyxman]

Wow! We're now mastering meaningless statistics. :rolleyes:

How about we just say "to each his own." Buy the handheld because you like it, not because of some graph. :rolleyes:

[2nyRiggz]

I think that the PSP has had plenty of time, its been like a year and everyone KEEPS SAYING that, no games have come out that are really worth $50, its just tons of friggin UMD movies...

Do you really own a PSP? There are a lot of good games for the psp...and they are LESS than $50 where have you been? keep that hating to yourself and come up with real facts but thats your opinon and you stated it.


Bless

[DevilDog]

My friend gave me a bunch of "cool" music, so I was still listening to it all. But, can anybody think of a way to make it not come out garbled? It's fairly loud, I wouldn't mind using it as a portable speaker system if I needed to. I tried reverse engineering the iPod video out cable, but that didn't work. I'm wondering what kind of plug would have to fit...a mono one maybe?

[Dagless]

Do you really own a PSP? There are a lot of good games for the psp...and they are LESS than $50 where have you been? keep that hating to yourself and come up with real facts but thats your opinon and you stated it.


Bless

There are a couple of games out there. I wouldn't mind that Streetfighter game at all. I loved the old Wipeout games (though paling compared to F-Zero, IMO) so I might pick that up. and the Tony Hawk game. but even then I'm going to be forking out near on £300 for that experience. I've said it many times before... I'd love a PSP. I'd love to play Sonic 2 (Mega Drive) on the go and the above mentioned games. but there is no way in sweet hell am I going to pay £300 when I could get a new PC, a new iPod, an Xbox 360, a Revolution or just £300 worth of killer DS games.

The sad thing is Sony are taking a loss with the PSP. So I doubt its going to get any cheaper any time soon. Guess i'll wait for the GB2 if I want power and portability.

[steve_hill4]

I think that the PSP has had plenty of time, its been like a year and everyone KEEPS SAYING that, no games have come out that are really worth $50, its just tons of friggin UMD movies...
The UMD movies are like the m4v downloads for the iPod, you pay the same/more for something of a lower quality with less features. To get your own movies on there, you need to get a hefty MS Duo card. I have a 64MB card that came with my phone and I have looked around for larger cards. I could get one for a reasonable price which means PSP owners can also get a 1GB card for about £30 to stick a few movies on there, but it still gets more expensive. If you decide to use it merely for games, are you really getting that much more functionality?

The Japanese realise there are phones and PDAs and such that can play their video and music on the go in one. They go for the console that has the best range of games and gameplay.

[funwithfunkis90]

Usually I enjoy the stuff nintendo does with their game machines. But when ds came out I was skeptical. 2 screens? why? And then psp came out and I thought nintendo would be DEAD. I mean this thing had movies, music, games, ps2 graphics on a handheld, AND it could hook up to a mac! The psp was clearly a more powerful and better machine (which i still think to this day). But now having played both and now owning a ds, I can say that ds clearly has better games: mario kart, animalr crossing, advance wars, wario ware, WIFI, and metroid next year. That being said, the psp is still better hardware.

[GFLPraxis]

Wow! We're now mastering meaningless statistics. :rolleyes:

How about we just say "to each his own." Buy the handheld because you like it, not because of some graph. :rolleyes:

Of course. Graphs don't make buying decisions. My point was to the poster who said that the DS was really bad compared to the PSP.

[Ja Di ksw]

Console Wars!

As people have said, buy what you like. I like having more than one option out there (and pushing each other to try harder).

GFLPraxis, I hope this isn't rude to ask, but what is your job? You said it has to do with knowing these numbers and you seem to have a lot of info on this subject.

[trainguy77]

I was hooking my DS and PowerBook up to one speaker system with a new 'y' adapter that I had just bought, and I heard Bon Jovi coming out of my DS!!! I had the cable plugged halfway into the headphone jack on Advance Wars DS and It was coming out garbled at full volume. The slider for volume only affects the game music coming out, which was pretty much drowned out by itunes. Im thinking it' kind of like the iPod's video out...Any cable will work, but the things inside are switched so that they are only supposed to be able to work with a certain cable. Can anyone else confirm this? Or is my DS just defective? Will Metroid Hunters be the first game to include the headset??? Or, can anybody figure out how to make it not sound garbled??

I had a similar problem with my stereo system, the TV and my express were connected too. If the stereo was off and the express playing, the stuff from the express would come out of the TV speakers all messed up. Yet I don't have a TV in set up. It just has the out set up to the stereo......

[GFLPraxis]

Console Wars!

As people have said, buy what you like. I like having more than one option out there (and pushing each other to try harder).

GFLPraxis, I hope this isn't rude to ask, but what is your job? You said it has to do with knowing these numbers and you seem to have a lot of info on this subject.

My prior job was working at GameStop- I'm going to college full time at the moment, but I'm also second-in-charge over at NintendoPlayers.com and have to keep track of all the numbers to report them.

[DEXTERITY]

and don't forget the new super mario brothers coming out this year and Resident Evil. Also, brain games is coming to the US... and in addition to the DS kicking the psp's ass the older technology of the SP outsold both.

In regards to games, the PSP actually launched with more games (or as some say a better line up) than the DS (which had a weak launch line up) and they still dropped the ball. Sony stepped into a war they aren't ready for...

[MacRumorUser]

No such thing as a 'console war'.

You are entitled to buy any or all of them..

The consoles don't fight each other, I have a panasonic q(cube) sitting next to an xbox. I have a slim ps2 stood upright near a 360. I have a PSP tucked in a clean drawer with a DS & GB:SP My N64 shares same space as a dreamcast and playstation (1)..

Not once have I heard a war raging on in my bedroom (well not above the sheets ;) )

It's the sad little fanboy's who troll sites such as this that do all the fighting, just because they are so insecure about themselves rather than their console....

[Dagless]

I had a similar problem with my stereo system, the TV and my express were connected too. If the stereo was off and the express playing, the stuff from the express would come out of the TV speakers all messed up. Yet I don't have a TV in set up. It just has the out set up to the stereo......

My amp does that too. probably doesn't help that its from the 70's. but its got all the inputs so I'm happy. but yea, say my GC is plugged into the Aux and my Mac on the Tuner input, with Aux selected I can play iTunes on my games! Which is a little ok, especially on games like Tony Hawk with foul foul music.

Theres a certain magic when on the Death Star run on Rogue Leader with The Logical Song by Supertramp playing in the background. Curse you Vader and your overly easy level!

[DEXTERITY]

it's a phrase we use in the video game industry. Relax.. no trolling, flaming, etc.. they weren't ready for what hit them this Holiday season (limited colors, bundles, etc, the AGT). We planned it like that for a reason.

[TheGimp]

The world disagrees with you.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c268/satoru2005/crt2.jpg

IMO DS has a way better games lineup, and that seems to be the opinion of IGN and a lot of others.


That's just because there are more little kids in the world, these tending to drown in tsunamis before they can mature and buy PSPs in their late teen and adult years.

I love my DS, but the last 5-6 games have gotten really piss-poor reviews, so I'm a little worried. OK Mariokart - sure, Mario&Luigi RPG - sure (thought it did seem just a *tad* too much of a kiddie game). Except for those games, the only ones I can think of as very good to outstanding are Kirby and Meteos. Sonic Rush is supposed to be very good, but not all reviews for that have been very good either.

[GFLPraxis]

Mario & Luigi 2 was hilarious...

Anyway, yeah, there's been a lot of crap downports (King Kong, Burnout DS, etc). But the DS still has the killer apps. Animal Crossing, Brain Training (in Japan), Jump Superstars (Japan), Advance Wars: Dual Strike, Tony Hawk, Viewtiful Joe, and Sims 2 are all highly rated.

The PSP on the other hand has only one >9.0 game.

[Dagless]

That's just because there are more little kids in the world, these tending to drown in tsunamis before they can mature and buy PSPs in their late teen and adult years.

I love my DS, but the last 5-6 games have gotten really piss-poor reviews, so I'm a little worried. OK Mariokart - sure, Mario&Luigi RPG - sure (thought it did seem just a *tad* too much of a kiddie game). Except for those games, the only ones I can think of as very good to outstanding are Kirby and Meteos. Sonic Rush is supposed to be very good, but not all reviews for that have been very good either.

You should really hear yourself. so everyone over the age of 13 should get a PSP and everyone under should have a DS? Should there be a "speshul" party when kids hit 14 where they ceremoniously throw their DS and GBA's to the side and pick up a PSP?

Come to the real world for a second. I'm mature. I don't go around pretending to be someone I'm not, or pigeon holing myself into a stereotype, I'm engaged in a long fulfilling relationship with a girl, basically in real life I don't act childish. But to say that 'mature' people go for the PSP is just unambiguously stupid. I've said before, to you even, that a whole chunk of my friends (aged 20-25) are avid DS players. They disregarded the PSP completely. We're the sort of people who have iPods, portable video players, those sort of gadgets. The PSP is offering us nothing new that our PS2 can't offer us.

Infact that whole statement about kids play DS and adults play PSP is very immature in itself. almost like saying only kids watch cartoons.

I've seen/know 3 people with PSP's and they are far from the mature image you think PSP gamers have. unless you call underage drinking, fighting because you don't like the look of someone and wearing hoodies mature. aka. my brothers druggy mates.

[Dagless]

Mario & Luigi 2 was hilarious...

Anyway, yeah, there's been a lot of crap downports (King Kong, Burnout DS, etc). But the DS still has the killer apps. Animal Crossing, Brain Training (in Japan), Jump Superstars (Japan), Advance Wars: Dual Strike, Tony Hawk, Viewtiful Joe, and Sims 2 are all highly rated.

The PSP on the other hand has only one >9.0 game.

Mr. Praxis; do you think with the DS modding scene exploding at the moment that we may get fan translations of Jump Superstars hitting the underground?
Agree with the list, btw. The DS is just getting every good game ever right now. I've never had so much fun on a machine since I started gaming (Spectrum and NES; 1989). The only other game that I've played as much as Animal Crossing is Smash Bros Melee. outstanding and unsurpassed gameplay.

[TheGimp]

I've seen/know 3 people with PSP's and they are far from the mature image you think PSP gamers have. unless you call underage drinking, fighting because you don't like the look of someone and wearing hoodies mature. aka. my brothers druggy mates.

I remember the last time you pointed that out, the topless dancer in particular who enjoys Nintendogs. YOU should hear YOURself! I saw sales statistics being flaunted to support a case of the Nintendo DS being "the winner" and merely seized the opportunity to make a tasteless joke (you are old enough for tasteless jokes, no). I don't see how a girl could take a guy who is too thin-skinned to enjoy a tasteless joke now and then. At least it didn't involve the popularily protected minority groups.

As for whether there should be a "certain age...when..we..ceremoniously..[throw away].. [our childhood toys]..etc" (pardon the poor memory), I didn't mean to insinuate that ONLY children enjoy the DS, but rather that the fact that children comprise the majority of hand-held videogame consumer partly or wholly explains the great sales leads the DS currently enjoys over the PSP.
Your misunderstanding (besides reading too much into my attempted humor) was *by nature* of the typical "if all X are a subset of Y, then the converse is also true" type. In any case, even if you don't believe in such a thing as a "video game for child", you must surely admit that there is such a thing as a "child's toy"? You don't own one of those Playskool brand plastic cones upon which one is expected to place, in order according to size, the variously colored bundled plastic donuts? Do you? You might just as well have claimed to know a topless dancer and/or university bloke who enjoys spending her/his free time playing with such things. To each his/her own indeed!

Just to be absolutely clear:
1)some adults surely enjoy the DS and even its games explicitly targeting a younger audience (in America and Europe at least, Japan is an alltogether different animal).
BUT
2) More children and pre-teens play hand-held videogames than do adults (demographics fact
3) Most DS games target a younger audience than does the PSP (Sony claims 15-32, Nintendo DS -> ~8-~18 - approximate target ranges loosely based on figures quoted in early, console pre-release magazine and business journal interviews with marketing representatives from the respective corporations).
4) Therefore, in light of #2 and #3, more DS units are sold.

[GFLPraxis]

3) Most DS games target a younger audience than does the PSP (Sony claims 15-32, Nintendo DS -> ~8-~18 - approximate target ranges loosely based on figures quoted in early, console pre-release magazine and business journal interviews with marketing representatives from the respective corporations).


Oh really now :rolleyes: You're basing this on marketting representatives? You most definitely are not.

http://news.com.com/Nintendo+aims+for+older+crowd+with+DS/2100-1043_3-5459885.html

Nintendo is counting on selling the DS to an audience older and pickier than the preteen market that dominates Game Boy sales.
...
"The Game Boy name really signifies warm and cuddly, and that's not the association they want for this product."

To accomplish its goal, Nintendo is backing the product with a $40 million marketing campaign dominated by efforts to get teen and older consumers to take a test drive.

The Game Boy targets the price range you list. Not the DS. Nintendo's marketting has always stated they are aiming for an older crowd.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/11/technology/e3_nintendo/

Designed to appeal to a slightly older audience than Nintendo currently reaches with the GBA, the DS (which will carry a different name when it ships to retail) will also include Wi-Fi wireless capabilities. One of the two screens will also act as a touch-screen, which will be used in conjunction with a stylus or fingertip.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6471849/from/RL.4/
Now, Nintendo is hoping the new gadget's sleeker design, more adult games and risque ad campaign will draw teens and young men.
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Olhava said the company also is signaling its efforts to snag older gamers through the roster of DS games to be available within months of launch.

The new system comes with the futuristic shoot 'em up game "Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt." Other offerings will include "Tiger Woods PGA Tour," "Madden NFL 2005" and "The Urbz: Sims in the City." Olhava believes these titles will be more interesting to older players than "Pokeman" and other games for which Nintendo is traditionally known.

Even Nintendo's "Super Mario 64 DS," featuring the classic Mario character, may be popular with older gamers because of the nostalgia factor, Olhava said.


You're basing your "~8-~18" idea around your own personal opinion, not marketing representatives, who have ALWAYS said it targets an older audience.