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rainman::|:|
Jan 14, 2003, 03:21 PM
Any other Mensa members out there? i'm willing to bet in a huge group of Mac users, there are more than normal...

:)
pnw



krossfyter
Jan 14, 2003, 03:41 PM
there has got to be for sure... or at least people who have scored that high.


i miss it by 10 to 15.... but it wasnt really official. dont know what i would score if it was.


*sigh* i wish my score were 200! then again i would probably die early... my brain wouldnt be able to function long with all the information or and or thinking on a high level.


brian needs rest.... people brains who score that high are 24/7 pushing it too thier limits.

SPG
Jan 14, 2003, 03:44 PM
I haven't made the effort to join Mensa, but I recall being told in grade school that my IQ score was the highest they'd seen in that school.
...of course I'm much dumber now.

krossfyter
Jan 14, 2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by SPG
I haven't made the effort to join Mensa, but I recall being told in grade school that my IQ score was the highest they'd seen in that school.
...of course I'm much dumber now.


you should man... good for resume!

krossfyter
Jan 14, 2003, 03:49 PM
is there such a thing as a humble mensa member?

beez7777
Jan 14, 2003, 04:08 PM
i know that my IQ is high enough to get in, and i've aced their practice test, but i havent taken the official one. wanted to, but never got around to it. is it worth it? is there any advantage to joining other than really bragging rights or anything? i'm still a student in HS, so i guess it'll look good on my college application.

sparkleytone
Jan 14, 2003, 04:41 PM
i really dont know that i would put mensa on my resume after i take the test. i know i'd get in but i'm having a hard time deciding whether or not i should do it.

Ifeelbloated
Jan 14, 2003, 05:07 PM
Don't put it on your resume. Intelligence is a highly sensitive issue with people who aren't as well endowed as others. Politics are a bitch especially workplace politics. I've stated it once and I'll state it again, people don't like dumb people and they don't like smart people. They like nice people.

beez7777
Jan 14, 2003, 05:09 PM
so is there any point to being in mensa other than personal satisfaction?

3rdpath
Jan 14, 2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by beez7777
so is there any point to being in mensa other than personal satisfaction?

not that i know of. i took the exam in college and passed...then decided not to join. i've got enough lapel pins.

to paraphrase the great groucho marx: " i would never join a club that would have me as a member"...

rainman::|:|
Jan 14, 2003, 06:02 PM
There are some benefits, a program that aids traveling mensans, discounts at a great many places. I can get cheaper contact lenses should the day come, and have a smaller deposit when i rent a car, etc. There are also scholarship programs for kids under 18 that join mensa. As well as a weeklong national get-together with lectures on different topics relating to IQ.

Personally i use it on resumes to some places, if i think it would give me a boost over other applicants. but in some situations you don't want to do it--

and no, humble mensans do not exist. Lots of crazy ones, tho...

:)
pnw

beez7777
Jan 14, 2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
There are also scholarship programs for kids under 18 that join mensa.
:)
pnw

hmm, scholarship programs, eh? do you have anymore information about that? is t for college, or for other things? :)

SPG
Jan 14, 2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by SPG

...of course I'm much dumber now.

How embarrassing to have to correct myself on a thread about IQ, but I must...
I should have wrote:
...of course I'm much stupider now.
Yes, I am much stupider, I am stoopid in fact, that's why I haven't joined.

janey
Jan 14, 2003, 10:38 PM
Not realli in the mood to join Mensa even though I'm only 14 and i have an IQ of around 200. :P to krossfyter: I don't push my brain 24/7. It just happens! Did I want to be this *intelligent*? No. I was hoping I could just be normal, just fit in but where on earth would a teenage mac user/programmer fit in?

vniow
Jan 14, 2003, 10:48 PM
What the hell is a mensa?

springscansing
Jan 14, 2003, 11:10 PM
My IQ isn't the best.. 170s I think. I could get into Mensa, but it just looks so damn snobby its not worth it. Besides, waste of time.

rainman::|:|
Jan 14, 2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by vniow
What the hell is a mensa?

Not really stupid, not everyone has heard of it. It's the international high-IQ society, the only requirement being an IQ in the top 2% of the population. The minimum IQ fluctuates based on the current composite, but is usually between 130-140. 165 is considered brilliant and nothing above that can be measured accurately.

Mensa is often considered a personal status symbol; despite the actual benefits of membership most people look at the members as very snobby. Suprisingly, very few that i've encountered actually are, most of them are simply unable to function 100% in society. Common sense seems in direct disproportion to IQ :)

pnw

krossfyter
Jan 15, 2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by übergeek
Not realli in the mood to join Mensa even though I'm only 14 and i have an IQ of around 200. :P to krossfyter: I don't push my brain 24/7. It just happens! Did I want to be this *intelligent*? No. I was hoping I could just be normal, just fit in but where on earth would a teenage mac user/programmer fit in?


alright then. so did you take a "legit" test? thats often subjective but if youve taken thier test and got that high... then rock it.


cool then... dont create to much heat with that brilliantly working brain of yours!

3777
Jan 15, 2003, 12:40 AM
Anyone saying they have an IQ of 200..... or even 170..... is absolutely full of crap. My IQ is 139 and last time I checked that was high enough for Mensa.:mad: I don't think the scale even goes above 160:rolleyes: 200....yhea ok:rolleyes:

krossfyter
Jan 15, 2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by 3777
Anyone saying they have an IQ of 200..... or even 170..... is absolutely full of crap. My IQ is 139 and last time I checked that was high enough for Mensa.:mad: I don't think the scale even goes above 160:rolleyes: 200....yhea ok:rolleyes:


yeah i hear... its hard to gauge IQs that high i guess.

ive heard the highest ever recorded (if it was recorded at all) was 220?


person died early in life.


someone else had 210... same thing... died early in life.


brain cant take it.


so i hear! i could be wrong.

lol

Doctor Q
Jan 15, 2003, 01:15 AM
Just to see, I just finished taking the Mensa workout (http://www.mensa.org/workout.html), a practice self-test, not a real IQ or Mensa admissions test. I got 27 out of 30 in a half hour, so they say I might qualify for Mensa. I do well on math, logic, and pattern-matching. I don't do as well on word scrambles.

As we all know, the smartest people are Mac users.

MacBandit
Jan 15, 2003, 01:53 AM
Last time I took an IQ test I kind of screwed around with it not very serious and no real brain work out prior I scored 125 which even though isn't Mensa is still pretty good and I know I could do better.

I believe I am correct in saying that the average IQ ranges from 95-110. Even though the average is always in fluctuation and under great debate it is always somewhere around 100.

rainman::|:|
Jan 15, 2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Just to see, I just finished taking the Mensa workout (http://www.mensa.org/workout.html), a practice self-test, not a real IQ or Mensa admissions test. I got 27 out of 30 in a half hour, so they say I might qualify for Mensa. I do well on math, logic, and pattern-matching. I don't do as well on word scrambles.

As we all know, the smartest people are Mac users.

actually that's what i had in mind when i started this thread... more creative individuals who are open to new things, it stands to reason that many Mac users are more intelligent. i realize that sounds like an ignorant slam on PC users, but we're talking about the 5% of the people who refuse to follow the mainstream in favor of a better option.

FYI, i took the mensa workout and got a solid maybe, and my partner took it and got a "probably not, but try anyway". we both got in. i wish they actually gave me my IQ when i took the test, but they refused (they would simply accept or decline you). I'd love to know which one of us is 'smarter'. :D

i put smarter in quotes because IQ isn't really smarts, it's simply a ratio of your mental age vs. your physical age. a lot of people interpret this in different ways :)

the person with the highest IQ on record that's currently alive is a woman named Marilyn Vos Savant (no joke), she does an article for Parade magazine where she takes questions. She's married to the man who invented the artificial heart. Kind of interesting trivia.

krossfyter, i've heard the 220 thing as well, i don't know if it's true. Anything above 165 or so is pure estimation, since we don't know enough about how the brain works, but there are individuals who are indeed far beyond it. i kind of wonder if an estimated 220 might be the result of a brain abnormality or tumor of some sort...

hmm, a netsearch reveals an MSNBC article about Marilyn... claims her IQ is 228. I find it hard to believe they can pinpoint it so specifically, but she's in the guinness book, so perhaps they've made advances since i read up on it...

also, as far as averages go... the average is *technically* 100, one year of mental age for one year of physical. The reason it's debated is because, while that doesn't change, the methods for measuring it accurately do, so it's the test itself that's at fault. the scale is supposed to constantly change to adjust to 100, but it doesn't, and then it gets out of date. they need a real-time network of scores, but surprisingly they haven't accomplished this yet...

:)
pnw

MacBandit
Jan 15, 2003, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
hmm, a netsearch reveals an MSNBC article about Marilyn... claims her IQ is 228. I find it hard to believe they can pinpoint it so specifically, but she's in the guinness book, so perhaps they've made advances since i read up on it...

:)
pnw

Or maybe we just can't comprehend the measurement of such a superior mind because of our lacking mental fortitude.;)

springscansing
Jan 15, 2003, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by 3777
Anyone saying they have an IQ of 200..... or even 170..... is absolutely full of crap. My IQ is 139 and last time I checked that was high enough for Mensa.:mad: I don't think the scale even goes above 160:rolleyes: 200....yhea ok:rolleyes:

I think 139 MIGHT be high enough. It's top 2%.. so it's like 135-140. But regardless... that means people are higher than 140...

And yes the scale goes higher than 160... you dumb 139er.

3777
Jan 15, 2003, 07:12 AM
By the way, if there are people with 200+ IQ's, most of them are sitting in little cubicles earning 10 dollars an hour, and spend their free time trying to solve Einstein's theory of relativity........ meanwhile....... the guy who started Girls Gone Wild is living in a multi-million dollar home in Colorado:o

Sun Baked
Jan 15, 2003, 08:22 AM
The years of drugs and alcohol in your future should burn off those excess IQ points, and then you can join the rest of us in struggling to pass the janitor's placement exam.

Who knows for sure if you'll ever burn off enough IQ points to join Homer Simpson at the bar in Moe's Tavern, but there's always hope in every life-long struggle.

SPG
Jan 15, 2003, 12:00 PM
Just call me Mister Smartypants. Yep, I'm changing my name to Mister Smartypants PHD. Or how about Lord Smartypants PHD, or oooh! I know, Conquistador Smartypants the Great! Yup, that's me now.
I hereby declare myself to be Conquistador Smartypants the Great.

MacBandit
Jan 15, 2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by SPG
Just call me Mister Smartypants. Yep, I'm changing my name to Mister Smartypants PHD. Or how about Lord Smartypants PHD, or oooh! I know, Conquistador Smartypants the Great! Yup, that's me now.
I hereby declare myself to be Conquistador Smartypants the Great.

So that is what SPG stands for. Smarty Pants the Great. I would have never guessed.

[Muffled under my breath] Dumbass [/]

SPG
Jan 15, 2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit


So that is what SPG stands for. Smarty Pants the Great. I would have never guessed.

[Muffled under my breath] Dumbass [/]

See, I knew I was becoming stupider!

krossfyter
Jan 16, 2003, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by 3777
By the way, if there are people with 200+ IQ's, most of them are sitting in little cubicles earning 10 dollars an hour, and spend their free time trying to solve Einstein's theory of relativity........ meanwhile....... the guy who started Girls Gone Wild is living in a multi-million dollar home in Colorado:o



lol

jefhatfield
Jan 17, 2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Ifeelbloated
Don't put it on your resume. Intelligence is a highly sensitive issue with people who aren't as well endowed as others. Politics are a bitch especially workplace politics. I've stated it once and I'll state it again, people don't like dumb people and they don't like smart people. They like nice people.

as a former hr officer for the govt, i can tell you ifeelbloated is right...keep the iq score or mensa membership to yourself

i once took a mensa test in college and did ok, but my iq at 135 or so is kind of on the low side for mensa where a lot of people are 150s and 160s

if someone tells you their score is well over that, it has not been unilaterally accepted as to how far a person can be beyond that

and anything measured over 200 is pure speculation at this point

jefhatfield
Jan 17, 2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel


actually that's what i had in mind when i started this thread... more creative individuals who are open to new things, it stands to reason that many Mac users are more intelligent. i realize that sounds like an ignorant slam on PC users, but we're talking about the 5% of the people who refuse to follow the mainstream in favor of a better option.

FYI, i took the mensa workout and got a solid maybe, and my partner took it and got a "probably not, but try anyway". we both got in. i wish they actually gave me my IQ when i took the test, but they refused (they would simply accept or decline you). I'd love to know which one of us is 'smarter'. :D

i put smarter in quotes because IQ isn't really smarts, it's simply a ratio of your mental age vs. your physical age. a lot of people interpret this in different ways :)

the person with the highest IQ on record that's currently alive is a woman named Marilyn Vos Savant (no joke), she does an article for Parade magazine where she takes questions. She's married to the man who invented the artificial heart. Kind of interesting trivia.

krossfyter, i've heard the 220 thing as well, i don't know if it's true. Anything above 165 or so is pure estimation, since we don't know enough about how the brain works, but there are individuals who are indeed far beyond it. i kind of wonder if an estimated 220 might be the result of a brain abnormality or tumor of some sort...

hmm, a netsearch reveals an MSNBC article about Marilyn... claims her IQ is 228. I find it hard to believe they can pinpoint it so specifically, but she's in the guinness book, so perhaps they've made advances since i read up on it...

also, as far as averages go... the average is *technically* 100, one year of mental age for one year of physical. The reason it's debated is because, while that doesn't change, the methods for measuring it accurately do, so it's the test itself that's at fault. the scale is supposed to constantly change to adjust to 100, but it doesn't, and then it gets out of date. they need a real-time network of scores, but surprisingly they haven't accomplished this yet...

:)
pnw

from most of the iq sites and literature, anything from 220 on does not exist...as far as the human race can gauge...and still anything above 200 is highly disputed by many sources

as a general rule, above 160 is a great place to be and there is no real need to measure beyond that since it won't be accepted by a lot of experts anyway

but even though marilyn says she is 228, she is at most 215-219...but without dispute, she is the smartest measured person on earth...she is way off the scale

i am curious how people like leonardo da vinci would have scored before the tests were invented?

janey
Jan 18, 2003, 10:08 PM
Hmmm...so you guys think I'm full of crap?

Fine...just tell me exactly what you got on the Mensa practice workout-a 30 out of 30?
And wow (feigned surprise) I'm barely 14.

we "smart" people with IQ's greater than 150 are just the same. And look, some of us also come with a curse-Asperger's Syndrome (mild form of autism) which just happens to be great for programmers :D Wired called it the geek syndrome.

Oh and just so you know your IQ gradually shrinks as you grow older and is never the same...but only goes up or down a theoretical maximum of 10 points.

Oh...looking for a true genius? ibookin'@mwny's in college! he's 15! and we've been friends for more than 5 years!

jefhatfield
Jan 18, 2003, 10:52 PM
if your iq is 200, some may accept it and some won't

but what matters is what you decide to to with your points

andy warhol had an iq of 60 and he was one of the great artists of his generation...some say he was an artistic genius and if your field is art, that is the way to go

i took an iq test once where i scored basically the same as i do on other tests, but this one was one where bill gates took it and scored horribly...but he did ok in life

SPG
Jan 19, 2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by jefhatfield

andy warhol had an iq of 60 and he was one of the great artists of his generation...
Reeeaaaaly? That sounds a little too out there to be true. 60? isn't that barely above retardation? I've read some of his interviews and one of his books and he came off as a little smarter than that.

MacBandit
Jan 21, 2003, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
andy warhol had an iq of 60 and he was one of the great artists of his generation...some say he was an artistic genius and if your field is art, that is the way to go


I don't buy that. Anything below 75 is considered seriously challenged. If he had an IQ of 60 he would be about 5 years old.

MacFan25
Jan 21, 2003, 06:38 PM
paulwhannel, are you a mensan?

Sun Baked
Jan 21, 2003, 06:42 PM
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