17'' iMac G5 Out of Stock

[MacRumors]

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Initially reported yesterday (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060202215650.shtml), the 17" G5 iMac had started disappearing from international Apple Stores. Today, the U.S. Apple Store (http://store.apple.com) also reflects no further availability of the 17" G5 iMac.

Apple had previously (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060131210455.shtml) discounted the 20" iMac G5 to move the final inventory. Initially, Apple had been selling both the Intel iMacs and older G5 iMacs side-by-side. Now the transition appears to be completing.

With stock of PowerBook G4's also dwindling, Apple had stated that PowerBook G4's would be sold while supplies last (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060118170400.shtml). The 15" MacBook Pro is expected to ship later in February, but unless Apple releases other form factors soon, there could be a hole in their laptop lineup in the 12" and 17" configurations.

[Texas04]

Well, they were fun while they lasted. In with intel :)
(Maybe this will rush other program manufacturers to hurry up with their universal binarys) *cough* Adobe *cough*

[cwedl]

RIP G5 - single cores

[(L)]

Will there be a 12" MBP? That's the million dollar question for me.

[ezekielrage_99]

G5 iMac it was fun while it lasted........

Dammit I was going to try to get a cheaper G5 iMac, well this looks likes the best time and excuse to blow it all on a brand spanking new Intel iMac or MacBook Pro :rolleyes:

[Chundles]

Will there be a 12" MBP? That's the million dollar question for me.

Not likely. Most likely is a 13.3" widescreen MacBook Pro based around the rumoured 13.3" iBook replacement I assume they'll call "MacBook."

[simX]

Um, the page still says "Ships: Within 24 hours" to me. Where does Apple indicate that they are out of stock?

[Lancetx]

Look at the "iMac G5," not the "iMac." The 17" model is definitely gone. The 20" still ships within 24 hours though for the time being.

[osiris315]

The Apple UK site now ONLY shows the 20" iMac G5 :p

Linky (http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/90801/wo/zv5zkIYI2HRQ23Nh9iH2Qw1Ki2k/0.SLID?nclm=iMacG5&mco=5D17DE8)

[Porchland]

iMacs dwindling...
PowerBooks dwindling...
Shuffles dwindling...

Are we getting a refresh on Tuesday?

[FF_productions]

Damn, This Transition is going faster than I thought it would...

[andrewag]

Omg Updates

[fltman]

The Apple UK site now ONLY shows the 20" iMac G5 :p

Linky (http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/90801/wo/zv5zkIYI2HRQ23Nh9iH2Qw1Ki2k/0.SLID?nclm=iMacG5&mco=5D17DE8)

The same thing in the swedish Apple Store. 20" iMac G5 only.

[iGary]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit™. :(

[guffman]

Does anyone know if the MPB is still shipping on time?

[kiwi-in-uk]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit™. :(
retch on ...

but this seems to be a trend ...

what next? an across the board replacement?
nup.

zero inventory for a few weeeks?
yep

sounds to me like a refresh.

[Nutter]

iMacs dwindling...
PowerBooks dwindling...
Shuffles dwindling...

Are we getting a refresh on Tuesday?


retch on ...

but this seems to be a trend ...

sounds to me like a refresh.

Hello? Did you two miss something (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/jan/10imac.html)?

[JtheLemur]

Hello? Did you two miss something (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/jan/10imac.html)?

Did _you_ miss that the stock of G4-based PowerBooks was also dwindling?

[guffman]

Did _you_ miss that the stock of G4-based PowerBooks was also dwindling?

I think he understands that....it's just that a couple of posts seemed to think that some new powerbook g4s would be coming out and that is definatly not the case.

[emulator]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit™. :(Then get one on Amazon just for the sake of it. FInal price: $1175 AR. No tax or s/h.

[newwavedave]

I hope they have one more left. I need to order one today.

[Postal]

My understanding is that only the 15" PowerBook G4 is selling "while supplies last" - the 12" and 17" will probably be maintained until their Intel equivalents arrive.

[PowerPointSamur]

I certainly hope they are going to release the rest of the Mac Book Pro line soon. I am in the market for a new laptop and am going crazy not placing my order for the Mac Book Pro right now (despite the hideous name change). My dilemma is do I do it now and get the 15" or wait to see if they release the 17"?

[~Shard~]

Out with the old, in with the new! This can't really come as a surprise to anyone. The 20" iMacs will be next, then the G4 PowerBooks, and so it will continue. Look for the Minis and iBooks to be next... :cool:

[emulator]

I hope they have one more left. I need to order one today.
Not sure how legit this site (http://store.43folders.com/computers-603150-B000AO1SN4-Apple_iMac_G5_Desktop_with_17_MA063LLA_19_GHz_PowerPC_G5_512_MB_RAM_160_GB_Hard_Drive_SuperDrive) is but they have a great price.

[Postal]

I certainly hope they are going to release the rest of the Mac Book Pro line soon. I am in the market for a new laptop and am going crazy not placing my order for the Mac Book Pro right now (despite the hideous name change). My dilemma is do I do it now and get the 15" or wait to see if they release the 17"?

I'd only get the 17" if I needed a full-on desktop replacement. The 15" MBP is about as big as I'd care to have for a laptop that I intended to carry with me regularly.

[~Shard~]

I certainly hope they are going to release the rest of the Mac Book Pro line soon. I am in the market for a new laptop and am going crazy not placing my order for the Mac Book Pro right now (despite the hideous name change). My dilemma is do I do it now and get the 15" or wait to see if they release the 17"?

I would wait a couple more months myself. Apple may put the performance edition of Yonah into new 17" MacBook Pro. They have to do something with that chip after all! :cool:

[guffman]

I certainly hope they are going to release the rest of the Mac Book Pro line soon. I am in the market for a new laptop and am going crazy not placing my order for the Mac Book Pro right now (despite the hideous name change). My dilemma is do I do it now and get the 15" or wait to see if they release the 17"?

I'd go ahead and wait for a 17" if that's what you are really after. They may release a 17" version soon, and if so, it may be easier to get than the 15", which I hear are shipping later and later.

[powerbook911]

I just wanted to point out that the MacRumors story makes it sound like all Powerbooks are being sold while quantities last. However, my memory from the Q1 financial results was that they kept saying they'll sell the 15-inch Powerbook while supplies last. I suspect they may sell the 12 & 17 a bit longer, maybe until there is a 17-inch MacBook Pro, for example.

[BornAgainMac]

This transition seems really smooth and Apple seems to have a lot of confidence with moving to Intel. Apple seems to have a good track record with transitions compared to any other tech company. I think the transition from OS 9 to OSX was much more difficult.

[p0intblank]

It's kind of sad to see them go so quickly. But hey, it's worth it. :)

[b_eleven]

So, I have a friend that decided to transition to mac from pc as their pc was very slow and probably loaded with spyware (actually there were fraudulent charges on their credit card). They wanted a computer that would be simple, safe, and perform basic functions. They decided to switch to mac and ordered right before the intel announcement. They were offered intel imac but I felt that the powerpc mac would be better for them as I am suspicous of new lines until the bugs have been worked out. It's been a month since they ordered and still no computer. Now it's clear why. I want them to have a good mac experience, but so far not staring off on the right foot. Any suggestions? Do you think that apple would send 20in or maybe refund and send refurbished at discount? Any sympathy or ideas are welcome. Thanks.

[nagromme]

Since Rosetta performs OK compared to G4s, and often faster--and since Photoshop pros who demand sheer raw speed will often choose a tower--I think Apple may not keep the G4 PowerBooks lingering for TOO long. (But I think they'll keep the G5 towers around even after Conroe.)

Low-end Intel Macs need Core Solo and might wait a bit, but new sizes of MacBook Pro could come any time. I really expect all G4 models to have replacements by the end of March.

I predict a 13" MacBook "something" (or "nothing?") to replace the iBook, and if it has a high enough version, then maybe no 12-13" MacBook Pro. I REALLY hope there's SOME kind of dual-core small laptop coming, whatever the name. And I expect the iBook replacement to use Core Solo. On the high-end, a 20" screen wouldn't surprise me too much... dual-duals would, but you never know (there would be room it seems--just disable one chip while on battery).

[Carl Spackler]

So, I have a friend that decided to transition to mac from pc as their pc was very slow and probably loaded with spyware (actually there were fraudulent charges on their credit card). They wanted a computer that would be simple, safe, and perform basic functions. They decided to switch to mac and ordered right before the intel announcement. They were offered intel imac but I felt that the powerpc mac would be better for them as I am suspicous of new lines until the bugs have been worked out. It's been a month since they ordered and still no computer. Now it's clear why. I want them to have a good mac experience, but so far not staring off on the right foot. Any suggestions? Do you think that apple would send 20in or maybe refund and send refurbished at discount? Any sympathy or ideas are welcome. Thanks.

It it were me, I'd try to get them an intel iMac. If they are using it for basic functions and knowing the longevity of Apple's computers, I can't fathom buying a non-intel based Mac unless you need it. All those apps on the intel iMac are for basic computer use, which sounds like these folks. Plus, the reviews seem to be pretty good on the iLife apps.

I'd rest more assured that I'd bought something with initial bugs, knowing that I may have some issues up front rather than for sure, down the line.

Carl

[Krevnik]

I'd go ahead and wait for a 17" if that's what you are really after. They may release a 17" version soon, and if so, it may be easier to get than the 15", which I hear are shipping later and later.

That would be news to me, actually. What source do you have for them shipping later? I say this because I have an order that hasn't budged from the Feb 15th ship date since I placed it shortly after the keynote.

[IJ Reilly]

The 20" iMac G5 is now gone from the US Apple store, but you can still order them from Amazon for $1349 with a rebate.

[jer2eydevil88]

Well for me this may work out... I have the last gen PB 15" and I hope to sell it once I complete my transition to the MBP next month. If true there is a limited supply on PB 15" models, and that there won't be a UB for Adobe till next year then this will help my resale value. :-)

[TheMasin9]

I suppose, this is a good thing, well just have to wait for everytihng to go universal...

[CubaTBird]

these imac g5's will become collectibles twenty years from now just as the "macintosh" is today...

[Krevnik]

The 20" iMac G5 is now gone from the US Apple store, but you can still order them from Amazon for $1349 with a rebate.

Still on the US store for me. Maybe I am special? :D

[cnakeitaro]

Out with the old, in with the new! This can't really come as a surprise to anyone. The 20" iMacs will be next, then the G4 PowerBooks, and so it will continue. Look for the Minis and iBooks to be next... :cool:

I highly doubt they will cut the entire iMac G5 line completely. They will start to discontinue models of the Powerbook and other lines of computers that use the G series of processors. I don't think we will see the iMac G5 line completely disappear til we see every major app go native. With the price drop, I am still considering buying one, but I highly doubt they had that many 20 inch models over the 17 inch models. This was a planned cut, and I believe they are still producing the 20 inch G5 model to this day to keep up with orders.

[quigleybc]

Any sympathy or ideas are welcome. Thanks.


Probably should have just bought it at Best Buy or something..I'm done ordering stuff from the Apple website, it takes too long, and if something goes wrong I hate having to call Apple care tech support because they have always been rude to me.

[mongoos150]

I don't think we will see the iMac G5 line completely disappear til we see every major app go native.
I do ;) - The fact that the 17" is dissapearing is the basis of my surmization...Apple won't keep one model going and discontinue the cheaper of that version - and Apple has never kept an old and new model competing with eachother in full blown production. It won't happen; mark my words in weeks (or 1-2 months) the iMac G5 will be gone.

[dswoodley]

Might still be a while before the 15" G4 PBs are out of stock. i ordered one for my office yesterday and it shipped the same day. I wanted to order an Intel MBpro, but we needed a portable FCP solution now!

[Chrispy]

Damn, This Transition is going faster than I thought it would...

Yeah I really did not expect it to happen this quickly. The MacBook Pro is not even shipping yet and powerbook stock is fading fast. I'm tempted to order a 12" powerbook just because soon it will be impossible to order one haha. Hm.. well not having any money kills that idea but Apple better get some new products out there soon if they are gonig to be running out of powerbooks in the next month or so.

[Meemoo]

What I've always hated about the PB is the luxary features were always sacrified, FW800, video card, backlit keyboard.....

If we do see a 13inch MacBook Pro(I hope we do) then I hope it uses the same power adapter and has the same video card and backlit keyboard.

[Krevnik]

What I've always hated about the PB is the luxary features were always sacrified, FW800, video card, backlit keyboard.....

If we do see a 13inch MacBook Pro(I hope we do) then I hope it uses the same power adapter and has the same video card and backlit keyboard.

The PB 12" has always seemed a bit like the bastard child of the iBook and PowerBook. Here's to hoping this will change!

[FoxyKaye]

Wow - the end of an era is upon us.

So, with AppleCare on my iMac G5 that doesn't expire until mid-2008, if my logic board melts or other heat-related injuries take place, will they replace it with a refurb iMac G5, or issue a new current model iMac with Intel inside? Going to be an interesting three years, for sure.

I really like my iMac G5 - it's the most appropriate mix of speed and value for what I do with it. Not saying that the Intel machines won't be even better, or that Leopard isn't going to be a great OS revision. But, I am now more concerned about its longevity - seeing as I have a pumped up G3 from 1999 still running strong, I am hoping to get five years out of my iMac at the least. Not just because I *really* enjoy playing 3D Ultra Pinball under Classic, too.

I could forsee a class-action suit down the road from G4 and G5 owners if Apple drops support for these systems like a hot potato.

[milo]

Will there be a 12" MBP? That's the million dollar question for me.

Kinda off topic, eh? Why wouldn't there be? (or at least a 13" widescreen)

My dilemma is do I do it now and get the 15" or wait to see if they release the 17"?

It's not a question of if, it's when. If you want the 17 and can wait a bit, wait.

They wanted a computer that would be simple, safe, and perform basic functions.

Sounds like one of the intel boxes would be perfect for them. Why so insistent on getting them to buy the hardware that's on its way out?

[~Shard~]

I highly doubt they will cut the entire iMac G5 line completely.

I think they will. :p ;) I guess we'll just have to wait and see who's right on this one....

[Meemoo]

I'm guessing Leopard will be the first OS that won't support the G3...

[b_eleven]

Sounds like one of the intel boxes would be perfect for them. Why so insistent on getting them to buy the hardware that's on its way out?

I am only concerned about bugs that sometimes appear in new products. This is a little bit bigger that just a minor rework of the imac line, it's a whole new chip! It can take months for serious flaws to become evident. I guess I am more comfortable with the known. But I guess I may have to advise to change to intel imac and hope for the best.

[PowerPointSamur]

Thanks for the advice on waiting or going for it. I am very anxious to get my hands on the Mac Book Pro, but I really don't *need* it until June or so. That's part of the angst...I would love to get my grubby paws on it right now, but I'm also considering practicing some self-discipline and waiting to see if the 17" comes out before then. Oh yeah, I need it in my *hands* in June, so if they announce it, but have delays, I'll be a little irritated. That's really where the dillema comes in...the sure thing before June, or the waiting game on a product which hasn't been announced yet.

[milo]

I'm guessing Leopard will be the first OS that won't support the G3...

Apple has already announced that 10.5 will ship for both processors. Who knows what will happen with 10.6.

[Di9it8]

Check this link out for refurb iBooks and Powerbooks all sizes

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?family=Certified

[IJ Reilly]

Still on the US store for me. Maybe I am special? :D

You're correct, I clicked wrong. :o

[jouster]

Apple has already announced that 10.5 will ship for both processors. Who knows what will happen with 10.6.

For both? They have specifically announced G3 support? Or just PPC support?

It's a while now since they made any G3 products.

[FF_productions]

Apple has already announced that 10.5 will ship for both processors. Who knows what will happen with 10.6.


It's going to be a while until Apple ditches PPC users...

[steve_hill4]

This transition seems really smooth and Apple seems to have a lot of confidence with moving to Intel. Apple seems to have a good track record with transitions compared to any other tech company. I think the transition from OS 9 to OSX was much more difficult.
It certainly was, but more of those who up to a year ago were still using classic are now switching. Tech transitions certainly seem to be where Apple excel though.

[steve_hill4]

Since Rosetta performs OK compared to G4s, and often faster--and since Photoshop pros who demand sheer raw speed will often choose a tower--I think Apple may not keep the G4 PowerBooks lingering for TOO long. (But I think they'll keep the G5 towers around even after Conroe.)

Low-end Intel Macs need Core Solo and might wait a bit, but new sizes of MacBook Pro could come any time. I really expect all G4 models to have replacements by the end of March.

I predict a 13" MacBook "something" (or "nothing?") to replace the iBook, and if it has a high enough version, then maybe no 12-13" MacBook Pro. I REALLY hope there's SOME kind of dual-core small laptop coming, whatever the name. And I expect the iBook replacement to use Core Solo. On the high-end, a 20" screen wouldn't surprise me too much... dual-duals would, but you never know (there would be room it seems--just disable one chip while on battery).
Other than the whole 13" discussion, I would tend to agree. With Adobe's announcement not to offer Universal binaries for their products until their natural development cycle, PPC G5 towers seem to be essential to at least the end of 2006.

For the 13" argument, I still think they could be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't either bring in a 12" or 13"WS MBP or an ultra portable Pro model. They would be saying in effect to consumers, we don't care about the Pros and their need for ultra-small portables. While I see that it is difficult to release a similar spec 13" MBP to the 15" without losing battery and other features, they need to keep something in that sweet spot between consumer and professional.

Of course, if they wanted, they could release a new MAcBook Duo that was a 13" ultra-portable, with docking station that allowed it to become full featured. Unlikely, (as rumours would have suggested this already), but something for Apple to mull over.

[steve_hill4]

For both? They have specifically announced G3 support? Or just PPC support?

It's a while now since they made any G3 products.
My guess is they will ditch support for G3 machines. They barely hung on with Tiger, so Leopard may well be the G4/G5/Intel OS and 10.6 will be the same, (I can't see them ditching PPC support until 10.7-10.9, maybe leaving OS 11?? as the first Intel only OS).

[MacinDoc]

Since Rosetta performs OK compared to G4s, and often faster--and since Photoshop pros who demand sheer raw speed will often choose a tower--I think Apple may not keep the G4 PowerBooks lingering for TOO long. (But I think they'll keep the G5 towers around even after Conroe.)

Low-end Intel Macs need Core Solo and might wait a bit, but new sizes of MacBook Pro could come any time. I really expect all G4 models to have replacements by the end of March.

I predict a 13" MacBook "something" (or "nothing?") to replace the iBook, and if it has a high enough version, then maybe no 12-13" MacBook Pro. I REALLY hope there's SOME kind of dual-core small laptop coming, whatever the name. And I expect the iBook replacement to use Core Solo. On the high-end, a 20" screen wouldn't surprise me too much... dual-duals would, but you never know (there would be room it seems--just disable one chip while on battery).
Low-end Intel Macs don't need a Core Solo, it's an overpriced underpowered chip. Apple needs to go with the Core Duo in all consumer machines, or something less expensive (and cut the prices). Even the Core Duo under Rosetta is only comparable to the G4s, not appreciably faster. Until all major apps are Universal Binaries, Apple can ill afford to release machines that are noticeably slower than their predecessors for non-UB apps, unless the machines have much lower prices than the current models.
I don't think we will see the iMac G5 line completely disappear til we see every major app go native.
We'll only see the 20" iMac G5 as long as there are still parts in the supply line; once the G5s and mobos Apple has purchased are gone, it's gone like the 17".
My guess is they will ditch support for G3 machines. They barely hung on with Tiger, so Leopard may well be the G4/G5/Intel OS and 10.6 will be the same, (I can't see them ditching PPC support until 10.7-10.9, maybe leaving OS 11?? as the first Intel only OS).
After the legal problems Apple had with Tiger and G3 machines, a G4, G5 or Intel processor will definitely be part of the hardware requirements for 10.5.

[technicolor]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit™. :(
Yeah I am kind of sad too.:(

[stephenli]

I read japanese magazin "Mac Fan" yesterday
Apple Japan claims that the 17" iMac G5 would be avaliable while stock last, and 20" iMac G5 would still continues for a while.

[ssteve]

iMacs dwindling...
PowerBooks dwindling...
Shuffles dwindling...

Are we getting a refresh on Tuesday?

Probably not next Tuesday. On a different note, I heard Adobe will have universal binaries a week from Tuesday.


Just kidding!

[technicolor]

Probably not next Tuesday. On a different note, I heard Adobe will have universal binaries a week from Tuesday.


Just kidding!
I am resisting calling you a bad name. :rolleyes:

[PMacG5Dual2.7]

Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least). Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.

[Dm84]

Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least).I think by the end of the summer we'll have Intel PowerMacs announced. Definitely by the end of 2006, because Apple already set that as the new target for the conversion to be complete.

[AidenShaw]

Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.
Apple has quite a history of suddenly making large, incompatible changes. The tendency is to kill one product to replace it with something different - and any overlap of the two models is simply "while supplies last".

Do you need a Powermac with PCI-X? Go to the refurb store.

If you need a PPC, my advice would be to buy it now. The closer we get to Merom the greater the chance that they'll suddenly disappear.

On the other hand, refurbs and eBay might be an acceptable solution.

[killmoms]

Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least). Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.
You wish. As soon as Conroe hits... bye bye G5!

[~Shard~]

Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least).

Are you a betting man? I am. I'll bet money you're wrong. The Intel PowerMacs will sport Conroe processors and will be out late 2006 or early 2007 at the absolute latest. No way they will be at least a year and a half away.

Let me know if you want to put some money where your mouth is and we'll make it interesting. :cool:

[steve_hill4]

Are you a betting man? I am. I'll bet money you're wrong. The Intel PowerMacs will sport Conroe processors and will be out late 2006 or early 2007 at the absolute latest. No way they will be at least a year and a half away.

Let me know if you want to put some money where your mouth is and we'll make it interesting. :cool:
I'll have some of that too, especially since Apple have already stated all Macs will be shipping with Intel processors by the end of the calendar year.:)

[~Shard~]

I'll have some of that too, especially since Apple have already stated all Macs will be shipping with Intel processors by the end of the calendar year.:)

Sounds great - let's share the wealth! You are from Robin Hood Country after all... ;) :cool:

[MacinDoc]

Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least).
As others have said, Apple has made it clear that the transition of its hardware to Intel chips will be complete by the end of 2006.
Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.
Yes, Apple still supports the G4 (and, in many cases, the G3), so it will continue to "support" the G5 for years, it just won't "sport" the G5.

[sjk]

Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least). Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.On what authority do make those statements? Are you making the decisions for Apple? :rolleyes:

[usedPowerPC]

i may just shed a tear or two when the last PowerPC ships from Apple, but they'll be shipping a "MacTel" to me when UB Adobe CS3 ships as well. i never understood the whole intel bashing clan anyway; the lesson here is don't hate your neighbors 'cause they may become your in-laws. micr0sopht is bash worthy though, keep on. i personally love AMD and would have thrown good money at any "aMpple" partnership. my 3 cents