Mac OS X 10.4.5 Released

[cwedl]

New in software update:


The 10.4.5 Update is recommended for all users and includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes for the following applications and technologies:

- iChat video conferencing
- Safari rendering of web pages
- usability of Dashboard and widgets
- viewing of QuickTime streaming media behind a firewall
- printing to some Epson printer models
- iDisk and Portable Home Directory syncing
- time zone and daylight savings for 2006 and 2007
- VPN connections to Cisco servers when using NAT
- compatibility with third party applications and devices
- previous standalone security updates

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n303179.

For detailed information on Security Updates, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798.

[Azadre]

I sensed it, and I did a software update. For no peculiar reason whatsoever and I found it.

[stoid]

you mntion PowerPC. Is this because you have a PowerPC and don't know about the Intel version, or because Apple is really releasing the updates for intel iMacs later.

[jsw]

The 10.4.5 Intel update is out now as well. Downloading that to my Intellimac, and the other to my PM.

[cwedl]

I'm hoping that this will stop safari crashing all the time like it is!

EDIT: I have to restart, see you on the otherside!

[stridey]

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n303179.


Broken Link :mad: It's not your fault, it's Apple's (since the link in software update is the same one). I'm not installing 'till I find out what it does.

Edit: They fixed it. :)

[cwedl]

Well so far so good, I'm up and running! Normally I'm cautious with software updates, but thought why not!!!

[robbieduncan]

Broken Link :mad: It's not your fault, it's Apple's (since the link in software update is the same one). I'm not installing 'till I find out what it does.

Edit: They fixed it. :)

The link works for me. Give it another try...

[stridey]

The link works for me. Give it another try...

Read the quote in your post. :) :p ;)

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Funny... About This Mac reports that I'm running 10.4.5 even before I restarted, even before Software Update is finished... :confused:

[law guy]

I like that the updates aren't front page MR news anymore - apparently anyway. They seem like items that are more in the usual course of things, which software update will go and tell you about eventually at any rate. The software forum seems like a more appropriate venue than the front page. I've downloaded to my PM G4 - no issues at this point.

[AppleMatt]

6.4MB?! This must be the smallest OS X point update ever!

Oh well. Safari, Dashboard and Epson printing. I use those three :)

AppleMatt

[wwooden]

I'm always nervous when a new update comes out. I'll update now and tell what happens.

Just noticed - it's really tiny, only 6.4megs on my iMac.

[vniow]

I like that the updates aren't front page MR news anymore - apparently anyway.

http://www.macrumors.com/

[ipacmm]

Wow, this is another thing today I wasn't expecting to see from Apple.

Update - One thing I found interesting was that on my PowerMac and PowerBook it showed up as 10.4.5 PowerPC but on my Xserve's it only showed up as 10.4.5 with out PowerPC...so I guess we won't be seeing Xserve's with Intel chips anytime soon.

[artiepants]

so much for that 10.4.4 intel patch.

[javabear90]

HAHA! Now Maxxus has to get hacking again... :rolleyes:

[liketom]

this is waaaayy too early then i thought - maybe 10.5 will be here in september ?

[stridey]

Funny... About This Mac reports that I'm running 10.4.5 even before I restarted, even before Software Update is finished... :confused:

Hey Mitthrawnuruodo, how did you hack the apple in the "About This Mac" floater to use the old logo?

[law guy]

Spoke too soon - tempting the gods as it were, I suppose - now it's up on the front page.

[apollo8fan]

I thought it was M$'s patch tuesday. :D

[legacyb4]

Wow, that was a fast one compared to the 10.4.3 -> 10.4.4 interval...

[longofest]

so much for that 10.4.4 intel patch.

was gonna say the same thing. I bet Apple will do this every time the OSx86 guys try to release a patch.

[Zweben]

My update is only 6.4 MB. That's really small!

[ChrisBrightwell]

... Portable home directory synch?

That's new, right?

[stridey]

Running with no problems here.

[jaynyc]

Hope it fixes the horribly long startup time I've had under 10.4.4.

[WildCowboy]

I noticed that it now allows Intel Macs to install Flip4Mac. That should make a lot of people around here happy.

[ieani]

They must have a lot of monkeys banging on keyboards at apple. Everything is moving speed addict fast.

[iSee]

Now come on. The first OS update since the release of Macs based on an all-new architecture, and the fixes are just a bunch of mundane stuff like "printing to some Epson printer models?" (no offense to the people with those models of Epsons..)

What did they really fix in the "general operating system?"

[ijimk]

well at least they recognized the running OS X on a PC box thing and now they have to hack all over again lol:rolleyes:

[rikers_mailbox]

... Portable home directory synch?

That's new, right?

Beat me to it...

What's "Portable Home Directory"?

[Josh396]

I was hoping for an updated video driver for the X1600. Hopefully sometime soon.

[Heb1228]

Hope it fixes the horribly long startup time I've had under 10.4.4.
Really? I haven't noticed. I haven't restarted since installing 10.4.4. I'm gonna DL but wait for more comments before installing. I'm not sure I wanna kill my uptime for this.

[Caitlyn]

Hopefully, this just means that we will see 10.5 Leopard sooner than expected. :)

[jaynyc]

Really? I haven't noticed. I haven't restarted since installing 10.4.4. I'm gonna DL but wait for more comments before installing. I'm not sure I wanna kill my uptime for this.

It's been very inconsistent, often taking up to 5 minutes. Of course, I'm nervous it could just be a failing hard drive.

[Josh396]

Funny... About This Mac reports that I'm running 10.4.5 even before I restarted, even before Software Update is finished... :confused:
Same thing for me. I've never noticed that before.

[kugino]

I noticed that it now allows Intel Macs to install Flip4Mac. That should make a lot of people around here happy.
that's fantastic news!

[kasei]

Running with no problems here also. It was a small update though...

[topherchris]

Is for Os X server environments wehre the client keeps a copy of their home folder on the server that is synched.

From Admin guide:

Portable Home Directories. Users with portable computers can now enjoy
synchronized versions of home directory folders locally and on the network. Portable
Home Directories synchronize selected content across local and network home
directories based on the most recent version of a file.

[Stella]

"Portable Home Directories".

Is this a newly introduced feature?

If not, how do you set it up. Very useful.

[rdowns]

I'm heading to the airport so my desktop will have to wait. Maybe I'll update my laptop when I land. Maybe not, can't afford problems when I'm away.

[UberMac]

Beat me to it...

What's "Portable Home Directory"?

It's a feature on Mac OS X server that allows portable users to work offline with their home directory and then when they return to the network it syncs all changes (either way). Think that explains it all :o

6.4 Mb...so small, so very, very, small :)

Just to think my iMac got sent back for FrontRow issues when, in fact, this could have fixed it :o Ah well, this will be fun!

[DaftUnion]

I think I'll wait till tonight or tomorrow to make sure everything is running smoothly on other people's computers...that was a hella fast update from 10.4.4...wow...took me off guard for sure to see .5 up already.

[Doctor Q]

time zone and daylight savings for 2006 and 2007What didn't Apple previously get right about daylight savings time?

[Edit: See answers in posts on the following pages.]

[topherchris]

"Portable Home Directories".

Is this a newly introduced feature?

If not, how do you set it up. Very useful.


Is usefull for laptops as well as roaming clients in office environment. For home use you would be better or rsync'ing

[Will Cheyney]

Beat me to it...

What's "Portable Home Directory"?
Taken from Apple's 10.4.5 update info document:
"Files copied across a network via Portable Home Directories are now copied as temporary files until the transfer is complete, in case the network connection is interrupted before the transfer finished."

Wasn't that what Apple's "backup home directory to iPod" thing was all about?

[Some_Big_Spoon]

Wasn't the 10.3.1 update super tiny? Like 1.3MB? It wasn't even really an OS update, it just fixed the FileVault feature from eating your info.

6.4MB?! This must be the smallest OS X point update ever!

Oh well. Safari, Dashboard and Epson printing. I use those three :)

AppleMatt

[milo]

Funny... About This Mac reports that I'm running 10.4.5 even before I restarted, even before Software Update is finished... :confused:

I've checked that in the past, I think it always does that.


uptime
15:55 up 22 days, 3:52, 2 users, load averages: 0.26 0.32 0.33

Dang, time to reboot I guess.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Hey Mitthrawnuruodo, how did you hack the apple in the "About This Mac" floater to use the old logo?I just replaced the MacOSX.tif in /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents
/Resources/ with the attached image (zipped so I could upload it). Any transparent tif in the right size can be used... :)

Edit: I might used this tip (http://www.resexcellence.com/hack_html_03/12-23-03.shtml) at ResExellence, a while back, but I'm not sure - I poked a lot aroung in CoreServices right after Tiger was released, looking for stuff I could mess with... ;)

[supersalzme]

Transparentdock doesn't work. Anyone know what I should do?

[emw]

What didn't Apple previously get right about daylight savings time?
Isn't DST changing in 2007? Maybe they forgot about that...

[Viewtiful Rich]

I guess Apple loves us. :)

My update was around 15.5MB

[mad jew]

Seems to have installed fine on my iBook except that she wouldn't accept my password on the first boot up. I restarted again and it now works properly. :cool:

[MauiMac]

Does this fix Front Rows video problem?

[yg17]

6.4 megs on both my G5 and PB and both running fine

[jmsait19]

Isn't DST changing in 2007? Maybe they forgot about that...


Yes. DST is in fact changing. They probably forgot to slip that in the last update as you have said...

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Transparentdock doesn't work. Anyone know what I should do?Use ClearDock (http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/cleardock) in stead... that doesn't get broken with every frelling minor update... :rolleyes:

[Heb1228]

What didn't Apple previously get right about daylight savings time?
I believe some states recently passed legislation changing their time zone/when DST takes effect.

Edit: Here's a link, although it happened last year maybe Apple's just getting around to changing it since the change doesn't take effect until April of this year.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050429/NEWS02/504290498

[kalisphoenix]

Does this fix Front Rows video problem?

That's what I was hoping it does... but I'd think Apple would say that in the description, given the amount of concern people are expressing.

[dr_lha]

I believe some states recently passed legislation changing their time zone/when DST takes effect.
Actually I believe this is due to the new Federal law which changes the day at which the clock changeover occurs.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/22/congress.daylighttime.ap/

[Doctor Q]

Isn't DST changing in 2007? Maybe they forgot about that...I found the details. Apple says Updated the rules for time zones and Daylight Savings Time to conform to changes in the law for the United States, Australia, and other locations, for 2006 and later.This is for the change, in the U.S., that results from the Energy Policy Act of 2005, which changes the start of Daylight Saving Time from the first Sunday of April to the second Sunday of March and the end of Daylight Saving Time from the last Sunday of October to the first Sunday of November, starting in 2007.

[sstanhill]

I installed 10.4.5 and when the computer rebooted, I was taken to a login screen where I was asked for my password. I did not have this setting turned on before. I enetered every concievable password I have ever used and it wouldn't let me in. After restarting it a second time, it took me right to my desktop. Everything seems normal now. I submitted this to Apple.

[mad jew]

Australian dates have changed? Must have missed that memo. :o

[sebpayne]

Is there any updates to the CoreImage RAW processor for OS X? Wonder if it has support or my camera yet!

Seb

[iCraig]

No problems here with it as yet on my G4 1GHz eMac.

Things seem snappier for some reason, but thats probably my imagination.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Ok... Safari (and Shiira) still crashes wildly if I close the tab after a resultless search at my public local library: http://www.bergen.folkebibl.no/cgi-bin/websok

Firefox don't mind... ;)

[davey-nb]

Does this fix Front Rows video problem?

I think the problem is with Intel iMacs, not Power PC ones updated with this release.
The update didn't break my Front Row hack on my iMac G5!

(Never mind, my update says Power PC but I guess there is an Intel update too...)

[yankeefan24]

Actually I believe this is due to the new Federal law which changes the day at which the clock changeover occurs.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/22/congress.daylighttime.ap/

dead link.

I think this is too soon for apple to release an update to stop the Mac OS X running on windows thing. that will be tomorrows update to 10.4.6. back to the windows world:D ;)

[bigbadTKO]

what about the bug where the finder drew black borders around some thumbnail images?

[reflex]

Nice update, it fixed my QuickTime problem. Previously I had to run the PPC version through Rosetta to be able to watch any streams.

[Doctor Q]

For the year 2006 only, the start of Daylight Saving Time in Australia will be April 2 instead of March 26 in some states.

[runninmac]

Is it just me or does the 2-fingered scrolling seem more snappy?

[mad jew]

For the year 2006 only, the start of Daylight Saving Time in Australia will be April 2 instead of March 26 in some states.


Ah, thanks. I'll set my alarm now. :D

[matthew24]

still not working: :eek: :mad: :cool: :o :(

Reflex: what preferences do you use within Quicktime?

[D3LM3L]

Installed fine and is working OK on my Dual 2.7 G5. My update was 15.5MB though.

[mrzeve]

They must have a lot of monkeys banging on keyboards at apple. Everything is moving speed addict fast.

Thats because they installed Intel Core Duo chips in all of the Apple employees :p

[The Red Wolf]

Here at work I've an iMac G5 and an iMac Duo. The update to 10.4.5 for the Power PC said (Power PC) and the update for the iMac Duo said (Intel) are they installing separate binaries or are they just designation to the Universal?

[jelloshotgun]

Anyone else have trouble with the menu items disappearing. The only menu items that appear are from external apps (gmail notifier, adium). There's no clock, wireless, bluetooth, etc. I have a 12" PB 1.5.

Messing around some, I think it has to do with the front row hack. If I try to go to keyboard preferences and click on keyboard shortcuts, it always crashes... Anyone know of an uninstall for the Front Row hack? Thanks

[Spectrum]

I'd like to know about this too. I could only resolve the black borders issue by reinstalling 10.4.2 from DVD, then upgrading to 10.4.3. (not 10.4.4)

My iPod shuffle works again now too. So I'm not tempted by this update until I hear all-round good news.

what about the bug where the finder drew black borders around some thumbnail images?

[w00master]

Wonder if this update fixes G4 Powerbook sound issues? Anyone know?

Abraham

[Heb1228]

I think Safari seems quicker!

(And I haven't even installed yet). ;)

[-M7-]

This update fixed my airport issues that I got in 10.4.4.
(Airport would not allow me to connect to WEP protected network,
I tried everything but didn't get it to work)

now it's working again :)

12" PB 1,5 Superdrive

[hvfsl]

Well I am happy now. With the 10.4.4 update, it would take over 2mins to boot. Now it takes less than 1min. :D

[tortfeasor]

Just updated by dual-core intel 20" iMac. The update was 40.6megs. Everything seems to be running fine!

[ChrisBrightwell]

Portable Home Directories. Users with portable computers can now enjoy synchronized versions of home directory folders locally and on the network. Portable Home Directories synchronize selected content across local and network home directories based on the most recent version of a file.In that case, I think the name is misleading. :(

[UberMac]

Anyone else have trouble with the menu items disappearing. The only menu items that appear are from external apps (gmail notifier, adium). There's no clock, wireless, bluetooth, etc. I have a 12" PB 1.5.

Messing around some, I think it has to do with the front row hack. If I try to go to keyboard preferences and click on keyboard shortcuts, it always crashes... Anyone know of an uninstall for the Front Row hack? Thanks


:s No I'm not having any of those problems. I still have my trusty Airport, clock, sound, battery menu items. And FrontRow still works like a charm as does the system preferences pane for keyboard...:o

[steve_hill4]

Just updated by dual-core intel 20" iMac. The update was 40.6megs. Everything seems to be running fine!
That's bigger than others had reported for their models, (PPC), so perhaps Front Row issues have also been resolved in the Intel iMac update.

We're now up to 10.4.5, so that's looking good for Leopard before the end of 2006. Must update my sig to reflect the current offering. Twice in one day, first for the new config of the MacBook Pro I will be getting, now this. What a (nice) pain. :p

[MacNemesis]

Beat me to it...

What's "Portable Home Directory"?

It's a feature in OS X server that allows (obstensibly mobile) users to sync up their home folder with the server. This would allow for roaming profiles in a lab environment, or essentially a backed up home folder for a mobile environment.

It's a neat idea, but still a bit of a network hog. And also a bit immature, but getting better. Really only applicatable to those in a Server/Enterprise environment.

[p0intblank]

Installed and everything is running just fine. :)

[1984]

"Daylight-saving time is coming to all of Indiana for the first time in more than 30 years.

In a history-making drama, the Indiana House voted 51-46 late Thursday to pass the controversial issue, which has dominated the legislature, coffee shops and kitchen tables for four months.

Gov. Mitch Daniels, who made passage of the time change one of his top economic priorities, will sign the bill soon so that on April 2, 2006, Hoosiers will join people in 47 other states in turning their clocks ahead one hour.

The climactic vote at 11:36 p.m. came after a half-hour of emotional testimony, in which lawmakers on both sides of the debate brushed away tears. They had fought about the issue all session. Some argued the changes are needed to boost Indiana in a global economy and erase the state's backward image. Others called it an unnecessary intrusion in Hoosiers' lives."

A 30 year battle over changing a clock. No wonder nothing ever gets done in this country. :rolleyes:

[Seasought]

It's installed and all as well.

[kugino]

my ibook install was only 6.4mb...but the intel 10.4.5 install is over 90mb! geez, what is getting fixed in this update?

[Heb1228]

"...Some argued the changes are needed to boost Indiana in a global economy and erase the state's backward image. Others called it an unnecessary intrusion in Hoosiers' lives."

A 30 year battle over changing a clock. No wonder nothing ever gets done in this country. :rolleyes:
You bring up a good point. I think it would have been hilarious to be in the heated debate over this issue. I wonder if they have any full-time anti-DST lobbyists?

[Anonymous Freak]

Anyone else have trouble with the menu items disappearing. The only menu items that appear are from external apps (gmail notifier, adium). There's no clock, wireless, bluetooth, etc. I have a 12" PB 1.5.

Messing around some, I think it has to do with the front row hack. If I try to go to keyboard preferences and click on keyboard shortcuts, it always crashes... Anyone know of an uninstall for the Front Row hack? Thanks

I've had the disappearing status items for some time, in both Panther and Tiger, on both my PowerBook and eMac (see sig.) More often on the PowerBook. Seems random when it happens. Not specific to the Front Row hack (but it does seem to happen more often on my eMac since installing the hack. But I did apply that hack immediately after the 10.4.4 update, so it could have been either's fault.) Front Row on the PowerBook, and 10.4.4 on the PowerBook, didn't seem to affect it at all.

But I can always get into Sys Pref to bring them back.

I'll have to give 10.4.5 a few weeks to see if it makes a difference.

[Anonymous Freak]

my ibook install was only 6.4mb...but the intel 10.4.5 install is over 90mb! geez, what is getting fixed in this update?

Read the Apple link. A whole bunch of Intel-related issues, and only a couple PPC. Probably an all new Rosetta, from all the Rosetta-based fixes. Hopefully it means a speed increase in Rosetta, too.

[WildCowboy]

A 30 year battle over changing a clock. No wonder nothing ever gets done in this country. :rolleyes:

And then the federal government went and screwed them over by changing the dates that the clocks change. Give Indiana another 30 years to get their law patched up.

[Dalriada]

All fine on my PowerBook with a 6.4 MB download although seems to me that I can't three finger scroll anymore... darn :p

[plinden]

So, no mention of a fix to the slow wireless networking on Intel iMacs (1/4 - 1/3 the normal download speed) when using WPA-TKIP encryption?

That's the only issue I have with my iMac. Well, I'll install it anyway when I get home. I might get lucky.

[Doctor Q]

And then the federal government went and screwed them over by changing the dates that the clocks change.Mandated changes in algorithms help keep us programmers employed. Somebody in Apple got paid to adjust the code to match current law.

Just out of curiosity, did Microsoft already release patches for these DST changes for the various versions of Windows?

[LimeiBook86]

Wow, on my Intel iMac's Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (Intel), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 40.6mb". But, on my PowerPC PowerBook Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (PowerPC), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 6.4mb"

The Intel version has more of an update heh.

[WildCowboy]

Wow, on my Intel iMac's Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (Intel), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 40.6mb". But, on my PowerPC PowerBook Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (PowerPC), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 6.4mb"

Odd eh? Will post pics soon...:confused:

Not odd...lots more changes for Intel than for PPC. Serious Rosetta updates inside.

[LimeiBook86]

Not odd...lots more changes for Intel than for PPC. Serious Rosetta updates inside.
Oh...Well I expected that sort of. My iMac is up and running and is fine. I didn't see Rosetta listed under the updates...hmm

[Platform]

No problems here so far, but what happened to the new Finder :(

[Xephian]

Awsome, thanks.

Too bad this update is pretty small...

[cal6n]

Wow, on my Intel iMac's Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (Intel), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 40.6mb". But, on my PowerPC PowerBook Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (PowerPC), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 6.4mb"

The Intel version has more of an update heh.

No surprises. The Intel 10.4.4 is the first public release of that version. I reckon it's release today bodes well for MBP shipments.

[FadeToBlack]

Installed it a little bit ago. No problems to report here. :cool:

[ScottB]

No problems here so far, but what happened to the new Finder :(
Yeah, they should really get round to sorting out the millions of finder bugs.

[muffinman]

thats good. the only thing is that it stinks for those people who bought the macbook pro with the highest specs, and then find out now that there is a 2.16 gHz ..

whatever. that is really cool though.

[sammyg]

so much for the crack for 10.4.4

[Platform]

Yeah, they should really get round to sorting out the millions of finder bugs.

I don't have any bugs, just missing features ;)

[dr_lha]

Wow, on my Intel iMac's Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (Intel), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 40.6mb". But, on my PowerPC PowerBook Software Update it says "Mac OS X Update (PowerPC), Version: 10.4.5, Size: 6.4mb"

The Intel version has more of an update heh.

Yep, pretty much what I expected. A massive update for the Intel OS X, as expected, its first public release has caused a few bugs to be found, necessitating a quick 10.4.5 fix before the MacBooks ship.

The PPC version of 10.4.5 is simply some incremental fixes tossed out to keep version parity between a Intel and PPC versions of OSX.

I wouldn't be suprised to see 10.4.6 in another month, with the same story.

[hob]

With the suddenness and smallness of this update I suspect it's just to PO the guys doing the 10.4.4 on PC business...

[swindmill]

NetNewsWire Lite won't open after the update . . . weird

[BornAgainMac]

I wonder if Apple will ever pull the plug on updates for PPC eventually. Perhaps in 5 years, 10.7.8 is only released for Intel 64bit only going forward. You never know, it could happen like that.

[crivera]

My Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard do not work anymore. The driver still recognizes that they are there, but it is not working. Trying the demo of USB Overdrive, it is not doing the trick either. Be careful with the update, it may do the same to others with these accessories.

[rog]

No problems here so far. We'll see what happens though after I get home and install it.

[t^3]

Mandated changes in algorithms help keep us programmers employed. Somebody in Apple got paid to adjust the code to match current law.

Just out of curiosity, did Microsoft already release patches for these DST changes for the various versions of Windows?
I changed the date and time to test this out on my XP machine with all available updates applied, and no, the old rules still apply.

[dswoodley]

NetNewsWire Lite won't open after the update . . . weird

Same with me. Tried repair permissions on mine. Nothing. Then reinstalled. Works fine.

[FireArse]

Some weird fan activity in the startup just after the update - but the Dual 2.0 G5 has been fine since! :)

Keep the PPC updates coming till.....FOREVER! :)

[dswoodley]

I wonder if Apple will ever pull the plug on updates for PPC eventually. Perhaps in 5 years, 10.7.8 is only released for Intel 64bit only going forward. You never know, it could happen like that.

Five years may be an unacceptably short time table for some owners. My boss still uses his 400mhz sawtooth (from 1999).

[DPazdanISU]

Funny... About This Mac reports that I'm running 10.4.5 even before I restarted, even before Software Update is finished... :confused:

Same here... maybe the update just kills the maxxus x86 patch:eek:

[Electro Funk]

Did the update...
Fixed the tearing issues in Front Row... Nice... :)

only problem... everything works but itunes through front row... wont play any music... just sits there when i choose a song... :confused:

Also...
safari seems to be much faster than before... if thats possible..

[Oblivious]

The only problem I'm having is that my dock is no longer transparent.:rolleyes:

[Electro Funk]

thats good. the only thing is that it stinks for those people who bought the macbook pro with the highest specs, and then find out now that there is a 2.16 gHz ..

whatever. that is really cool though.

i think i read in another thread that those people would be upgraded at no charge...;)

[cycocelica]

no problems yet. Safari seems slower though, might just be me.

[iShane]

Downloaded. Not really that much of a benefit to me however...

[autrefois]

maybe the update just kills the maxxus x86 patch:eek:

I bet Apple will do this every time the OSx86 guys try to release a patch.

Once we hit OS 10.4.92, that might get a little tiresome. :D

Since it sounds like Intel users are having large update sizes for 10.4.5, I'd say it was either purely a coincidence or at best they just released it a little earlier than expected.

[t^3]

Same here... maybe the update just kills the maxxus x86 patch:eek:
If this happens, I really doubt that it was done on purpose. There just wasn't enough time between the releases for Apple to implement and test any measures to kill the patch. Final release builds have to be tested for at least a few days. I think the timing of these releases was just pure coincidence, or (gasp!) Maxxus's work is some weird and twisted plan of Apple's doing.

[cal6n]

i think i read in another thread that those people would be upgraded at no charge...;)

None have shipped yet, so:

Automatic Upgrade 1.67 > 1.83

Automatic Upgrade 1.83 > 2.00

Paying option to go to 2.16 with no loss of place in queue if you phone before 18th.

All showing various shipping delays, but that MAY just be placeholder dates until the system settles.

It must be bloody chaos in that factory!

[Alexander]

If this happens, I really doubt that it was done on purpose. There just wasn't enough time between the releases for Apple to implement and test any measures to kill the patch. Final release builds have to be tested for at least a few days. I think the timing of these releases was just pure coincidence, or (gasp!) Maxxus's work is some weird and twisted plan of Apple's doing.

Or Apple heard about an impending release through the grapevine.

[dbhays]

New in software update:


Home Directory syncing



Good, I hope this solves all the syncing conflicts I get at work.

[Alexander]

Funny... About This Mac reports that I'm running 10.4.5 even before I restarted, even before Software Update is finished... :confused:

The "Optimizing" phase is just redoing the application-library prebindings to improve launch speed. The software is already installed.

[geoffism]

Sounds like everything is going pretty well.

If you don't hear from me in 30 mins, send a search dog (one of those Cugo types with a barrel of scotch).

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

The "Optimizing" phase is just redoing the application-library prebindings to improve launch speed. The software is already installed.Probably, but I always thought that you needed the restart of the system to, well, restart the system, and start using the upgraded version... ;)

[hesdeadjim]

I waited like 10-15 minutes at the gray Apple screen when it restarted. I finally decided to hold the power button and restart it again. It went normally the next time, well a little longer but not too much. This has been happening every time I update Tiger. But I don't see any problems other than that, just a warning to everyone.

[dernhelm]

Just updated using SU and Camino 1.0 scrolls like butter!

:-)

I waited like 10-15 minutes at the gray Apple screen when it restarted. I finally decided to hold the power button and restart it again. It went normally the next time, well a little longer but not too much. This has been happening every time I update Tiger. But I don't see any problems other than that, just a warning to everyone.

Agreed - restart was way long again. Not as bad as 10.4.3, but still pretty bad. Especially for such minor changes.

[kwajo.com]

Five years may be an unacceptably short time table for some owners. My boss still uses his 400mhz sawtooth (from 1999).

I still use all the machines in my Signature and they are turning 6 and 7 years old this year. Both run Tiger at a very acceptable speed. Use the 350MHz G4 everyday as a server and the iBook several times a week for library research. Works better for typing and the internet than my university supplied 1.6GHz Pentium M Dell :rolleyes:

[geoffism]

Sounds like everything is going pretty well.

If you don't hear from me in 30 mins, send a search dog (one of those Cugo types with a barrel of scotch).
I'm responding to myself. Updated. Grabbed a beer. Back up. No problems yet. 11 minutes (or so).

Let the beatings begin!

[shrimpdesign]

USB Overdrive stopped working for me on my Intel iMac 17" with the 10.4.5 update.

[Electro Funk]

Did the update...
Fixed the tearing issues in Front Row... Nice... :)

only problem... everything works but itunes through front row... wont play any music... just sits there when i choose a song... :confused:

Also...
safari seems to be much faster than before... if thats possible..

OK... i take that back... i rebooted airport express and the imac and now front row works perfectly! Thank you apple! you have fixed my only noticable issue so far... she is running superr fast, is very quiet, and she is sexy as hell :)

JK

[OldCorpse]

Hmm. I updated to 10.4.5 and now it seems if anything, Safari is a touch slower. Both to start up, and to render pages. Of course, this may be an illusion and wrt. page rendering, it's hard to say as the sites themselves may be a slightly slower, but it sure feels as if Safari is slower to start up... the Safari icon seems to do more bounces than before... YMMV.

I don't know yet if it fixed any of the Safari crashing and hanging... from the description of what they addressed in this update it doesn't seem they really did much of anything to affect Safari performance, BWDIK. Hope springs eternal... Safari has had a lot of hanging and crashing for me :( ... maybe one day Apple will get it right, or at least on the level of FF which never crashes or hangs for me (version 1.5.01).

[mongoos150]

My boot time was blazing as always, about 29 seconds from chime to desktop. Safari is blazing as well - perhaps because my machine is maxed?:)

[Heb1228]

Five years may be an unacceptably short time table for some owners. My boss still uses his 400mhz sawtooth (from 1999).
Even if Apple stops updating software, that doesn't mean you can't still use the machine. I doubt they will continue making universal binaries for 5 years. I think 3 or 4 years past the release of the last PPC Mac is more realistic. That means around 2009 or 2010.

[cgratti]

Here's what I got.....

[kjs862]

Safari seems to be snappier :D

[Anonymous Freak]

Well, on my Blue and White G3 (G4/500 upgrade, 448 MB RAM, stock 12 GB Maxtor HD,) boot time is identical, give or take. (See old '10.4.4 shocking boot speed (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=176427)' thread.) I did three runs in 10.4.4 to verify (same results as my reply in that thread,) and three runs in 10.4.5 (after an initial 'finish install' boot run that took a lot longer,) and have the same 35 seconds from chime to 'ready to use'. The gory numbers are:
5 seconds from 'bong' to seeing the Apple log on screen.
14 seconds to the 'spinner' appearing.
29 seconds to the 'Starting OS X' box appearing,
33 seconds to the wallpaper appearing,
34 to the menu bar and dock appearing,
35 to icons ready to click.
(39 seconds until HD activity stops, but it's ready to use at 35.)

As the B&W is my 'test' machine, I'm going to give ..5 a week or so before updating my other machines. (When I do the numbers again, though, the PowerBook listed in the linked thread above will be much faster. I disabled FileVault, Secure VM, and multiple users. I realized I don't actually have any 'sensitive' info on it any more.)

[macEfan]

Safari seems to be snappier :D
that sounds cool! I always like it when apps tend to run faster... I will update my computer today, and hopefully, there won't be any bugs in the software.

[samanthas]

I waited like 10-15 minutes at the gray Apple screen when it restarted. I finally decided to hold the power button and restart it again. It went normally the next time, well a little longer but not too much. This has been happening every time I update Tiger. But I don't see any problems other than that, just a warning to everyone.

That happened to me too (well, NOT 10-15 minutes, but yeah). 10.4.4 was always really fast at starting up for me. It seems to be going faster now though.

[tivoboy]

intel imac folks, starting with build 1165, what are you getting as the required update load?

it seems some people have reported 6.5mb, some 40.9mb, some 42.3mb. I just download the update from the apple site, it lists as only 14.5 mb, but when I go to software update it shows 40.8mb.

not really sure what to do, I mean if I run the local file now, it will most likely then download another 25mb?

[samanthas]

Mine was 40.9mb.

[iHeartTheApple]

Safari seems to be snappier :D

You're totally right...My safari seems to be moving along at a fair speed, too. Interestingly enough, it seems the entire computer (17" PB 1.67GHz G4 w/SD) is operating faster. I don't know what they changed to make that happen, but I like it. Is anyone else experiencing this? Looking forward to hearing from others...

[d_and_n5000]

"Daylight-saving time is coming to all of Indiana for the first time in more than 30 years.

In a history-making drama, the Indiana House voted 51-46 late Thursday to pass the controversial issue, which has dominated the legislature, coffee shops and kitchen tables for four months.

Gov. Mitch Daniels, who made passage of the time change one of his top economic priorities, will sign the bill soon so that on April 2, 2006, Hoosiers will join people in 47 other states in turning their clocks ahead one hour.

The climactic vote at 11:36 p.m. came after a half-hour of emotional testimony, in which lawmakers on both sides of the debate brushed away tears. They had fought about the issue all session. Some argued the changes are needed to boost Indiana in a global economy and erase the state's backward image. Others called it an unnecessary intrusion in Hoosiers' lives."

A 30 year battle over changing a clock. No wonder nothing ever gets done in this country. :rolleyes:

yeah, it's crazy. And i have to live there. Gov. Daniels made it top priority, to make us lazy Hoosiers go and get our clocks off the wall and change the time by an hour. How rude! I'll bet this was one of the main reason Apple rolled out this update, to get rid of the Indiana time zone.
Yep, that's right:D

[Spinnetti]

You're totally right...My safari seems to be moving along at a fair speed, too. Interestingly enough, it seems the entire computer (17" PB 1.67GHz G4 w/SD) is operating faster. I don't know what they changed to make that happen, but I like it. Is anyone else experiencing this? Looking forward to hearing from others...

I thought it was just me, but the whole thing feels much faster.
I went to iphoto (4000+ photos), and brought up the edit window and held down the arrow key - blazes through the pictures so fast I can hardly see them now. This was always 10-20x slower than my PC, and now its faster! Finally my Mac is paying off. Safari is noticably faster too
(I have a new 20" 1 gig mem intel imac, just having sold the same in G5 version). The update from 10.4.4 was around 40meg for me.

My biggest complaint was that flipfor mac didn't work (supposedly fixed, but I still can't open some movies I could on my G5) and a sleep issue where airport is completely dead after recovery from sleep. I have an issues list almost 10 pages long, so its time to go regression test the whole mess and see what they fixed. The performance alone was a sweet upgrade though!

[iBug2]

Exactly. The whole thing feels definitely faster, including World Of Warcraft. There is no mention of new video drivers or anything but I'm sure, everything is more responsive.

[slimflem]

After rebooting after this update, I noticed Spotlight was running mdimport pretty heavy after the restart. It lasted about 5 minutes and then stopped. Did anyone else have a spotlight import get kicked off after restart? I always dl the combo updater...never from Software Update.

To you guys that don't like to wait after OS updates, wait. Mine took about 8 minutes, but so what, let it do what its gotta do. Killing power in the middle of a reboot after an OS update is asking for it.

[noaccess]

What can I say... Wow!
First thing that happened after reboot was that the 'Setup Assistant' came up in the Dock. Next, a window opens and... the Tiger Welcome video started playing!
It was nice seeing it again since the first time I booted my iBook :)

*hugs iBook*

[technicolor]

Says my update is 15.5MB

and yes I am running 10.4.4

[samanthas]

a sleep issue where airport is completely dead after recovery from sleep.

That happened to me too. I had to restart in order for it to work again.

[macdad2]

mine's 15.5 meg as well. hmmm... what gives?

1.67 17" Powerbook - pre hd screen

oh - running 10.4.4 too - I need to update my sig

[powerbook911]

Installed it on my iMac Core Duo. Seems ok.

[Butler Trumpet]

I havent restarted after the initial restart after installing this, but as of this minute... i cant save anything... if I try, it freezes that app.

hmm... Im gonna restart and see if that fixes it..... it had better

[godrifle]

After updating my iMac Duo to 10.4.5, I still have help system problems. Launching help from the Finder typically results in a blank screen in 10.4.4. After the update, it was blank for several seconds. Now it displays the initial finder help page, but multi-word searches don't return results. Anyone else have this issue?

[Todd H]

Working fine for me. :) It was about a 40 meg download.

[plinden]

Works fine on a 17" Core Duo iMac. It took 90 seconds to reboot after the install. Everything seems ok. I haven't noticed any difference in performance. It was pretty snappy anyway.

There appear to have been changes to the airport, so I was hoping it would have fixed the download speed issue with WPA encryption. It hasn't. If anything it's even slower, about 1/8 the speed of wired downloads.

[icysummer]

I updated from 10.4.3. The reason I didn't have 10.4.4 was I found it too unstable.
This update went fine and this one is much better, but when I tried verifying or repairing permissions disk utility would give me the following error
'No valid packages'
Tried 3rd party repair apps as well, no luck.

Otherwise everything appears great, even possibly a bit quicker.

My computer's an old beige G3 with a 1Ghz/G4.

[samanthas]

After updating my iMac Duo to 10.4.5, I still have help system problems. Launching help from the Finder typically results in a blank screen in 10.4.4. After the update, it was blank for several seconds. Now it displays the initial finder help page, but multi-word searches don't return results. Anyone else have this issue?

Mine is just blank. How annoying. This didn't happen in 10.4.4.

Oh, and mine doesn't work with multi-word searches either.

*cough* actually, no results come up. Ugh. It just keeps loading.

[icysummer]

Checked the disk itself. Needs repair. Will use my trusty Diskwarrior to solve the problem.

[clcnyc]

What can I say... Wow!
First thing that happened after reboot was that the 'Setup Assistant' came up in the Dock. Next, a window opens and... the Tiger Welcome video started playing!
It was nice seeing it again since the first time I booted my iBook :)

*hugs iBook*
I got the same thing and it freaked me out a little! I just quit out of it, though, and restarted again, after repairing permissions. Should I have gone through the whole set up again???

[SnickterP]

Strange. The update killed my computer, making it freeze on the apple screen. Disk Utility on the OS X dvd said the disk was unrepairable. I had a bad feeling before doing the update so i luckily backed up my drive to a dmg, and have since restored it back to normal. The computers in my profile....very unusual.

[icysummer]

Managed to reapir permissions by using applejack.
But I still get 'No valid packages" error in disk utility.

[samanthas]

godrifle and anyone else having problems with Finder help/View finder...

I found this site http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/helpviewer.html#Anchor-Reset-35882 and it seems to have fixed it. Just make sure you restart your computer after you do what they recommend.

[FoxyKaye]

Five years may be an unacceptably short time table for some owners. My boss still uses his 400mhz sawtooth (from 1999).
Darn Right You Are! Our organization is still using Panther on iMacs from 1999, and Tiger on the original G4/533 and 733 MHz computers for everyday workstations. I'd expect another two revisions of OS X would eventually phase these out. But, if they pull the plug on PPC machines at something only like 10.7, I'd be mighty mad - especially since I'm planning to get at least 5 years out of my iMac G5.

Hey - anyone on the Intel machines notice any speed improvements with Rosetta after 10.4.5?

[VanNess]

Looks like the odd scrolling behavior (http://www.kaourantin.net/2005/07/why-does-flash-player-8-on-mac-perform.html) in Safari for pages containing embedded flash content has been resolved as of this update

edit* well, maybe not after all. Just hit a flash heavy page and the scrolling bug is still there.

[revjay]

Holy Crap...I just completed the update 6.5MB (power PC) and upon restart...the fans in my G5 went hyper...I have never been able to get the fans moving as fast as they were even when running multiple processor heavy applications...I was freaked.
Everything appeared (looked) normal when it rebooted, so I did another restart and the fans are under control...Whoah!

[mongoos150]

I can't believe how slow your start times are (and others)...do you have old systems? Like I said, I went from chime to usable desktop in 29 seconds.

[reflex]

still not working: :eek: :mad: :cool: :o :(

Reflex: what preferences do you use within Quicktime?

I used the default presets, though I changed them yesterday after playing the MWSF keynote.

Currently I don't have "Open movies in new players" and "Use high quality video setting when available" checked, all the other options are on.

Since the update mentioned fixing QT streaming with firewalls: I use a hardware firewall, the OSX firewall is off.

my ibook install was only 6.4mb...but the intel 10.4.5 install is over 90mb! geez, what is getting fixed in this update?

It was about 40MB on my 17" Intel iMac.

[thefunkymunky]

USB Overdrive also stopped detecting my Mighty Mouse on my Intel iMac 20-inch. It still works on my PowerBook 12-incher.:rolleyes: :confused:

[jonparadise]

Onyx has stopped working on my Powerbook. It starts up fine, but doesn't respond to button presses.

[notheremuch]

PowerMac G5 2x2 = 6.4MB

no problems at all. (onyx fine too)

Safari still slow compared to Firefox...

[ensee]

It looks like most of the original Tiger glitches are gone - I saw the welcome to tiger video which I didn't get after installing the OS first time and, more importantly, quicktime movies aren't getting stuck in the dock. If something's minimised then it can be restored without quiting the app.

Happy so far.

[Jesus]

I think I have worked out why there are two sizes for intel macs:

Do you remember the video tearing issues, well that only affect some intel iMacs that had a certain build of OS X on them, so the ones with the big update suffered from video tearing, and the ones with the small update was just for things like Flip4Mac. :eek:

[aprilfools]

The 10.4.5 update has made the fan noise on my iMac Rev B much much louder.

My thoughts are that from now on just about any Apple software update is going to be Universal Binary for both PowerPC and Intel Macs. This is not going to be good for us with Power PC's. We will never actually really know 100% for sure that the updates we are installing fixes something specific in our PowerPC Macs or if they are just Universal Binary improvements/fix's. Something is bound to go wrong somewhere. I have been paying attention to VersionTracker.com alot lately and I notice that lots of the miscellaneous software that is being updated is only being updated primarily for Universal Binary compatibility.

I also notice that the file sizes are much larger than they were for PowerPC. This is not good. Clutters up our hard drive with software that doesn't really improve upon what we have in our PowerPC Macs.

I'm not going to be as anxious to update anymore. My OS 10.4.5 update in SU was a miniscule 6.4 MB. Something tells me that very little was fixed in 10.4.5 on the PowerPC side. The fixes were really more Intel Mac related even though Apple has "two" distinct versions of the 10.4.5 update. I really doubt much was changed and in my case it made it worse. Makes me think what other updates are coming down the line that is going to make my iMac not work as good because Apple no longer cares about us PowerPC owners. Just my 2 cents.

[mdavey]

I also notice that the file sizes are much larger than they were for PowerPC. This is not good. Clutters up our hard drive with software

Well, if you are absolutely sure you are never going to want to move those applications to Intel Mac or share the containing folders with an Intel Mac, you could always remove the Intel code.

There are at least two ways to do this:

* On the command line with 'lipo' ('man lipo' for details)
* The 3rd party TrimTheFat (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/20404) application

[finchna]

My Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard do not work anymore. The driver still recognizes that they are there, but it is not working. Trying the demo of USB Overdrive, it is not doing the trick either. Be careful with the update, it may do the same to others with these accessories.

my logitech wireless mouse is still working--have you installed the latest software updates from the logitech website?

[-Garry-]

I think I have worked out why there are two sizes for intel macs:

Do you remember the video tearing issues, well that only affect some intel iMacs that had a certain build of OS X on them, so the ones with the big update suffered from video tearing, and the ones with the small update was just for things like Flip4Mac. :eek:

Don't think so. I have a Duo Core with 128MB VRAM and the update was 40.9. Never had a problem with FR.

[heaven]

Installled it in the morning on my 17" G4 1.5 Powerbook and it works perfectly :cool:

[geoffism]

Did the upgrade last night. Went smoothly. Got up this AM to start working, the machine fired up FAST, and applications like PS and AI started up much faster.
Maybe it's just youthful optimism, but I like it.

I'm on a PB G4 (rev d).

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Onyx has stopped working on my Powerbook. It starts up fine, but doesn't respond to button presses.MainMenu (http://www.santasw.com/products.html) seems to be working just fine... in case you need an alternative... :)

[Squozen]

It looks like most of the original Tiger glitches are gone - I saw the welcome to tiger video which I didn't get after installing the OS first time and, more importantly, quicktime movies aren't getting stuck in the dock. If something's minimised then it can be restored without quiting the app.

Happy so far.

Sounds like you had the DiVX codec installed - that bug has since been fixed, check the DiVX site for the latest codec that works properly with Tiger.

[adamfilip]

on my PowerMac Dual 2.0 Rev1 with 3gb ram

I found after the 6.5mb update from 10.4.4 it took over a miniute to boot up
thing were crashing everywhere..

i then repaired premissions.
and it seems much better

[thefunkymunky]

To everyone thats been having USB Overdrive problems on Intel Macs. It has just been updated to version 10.4.5.

Get it from http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7115 as the website is not updated yet.:)

[eme jota ce]

Updated an iBook and a Duo Core 2.0 Ghz iMac.

No problems on either machine after 12 hours of uptime / moderate use.

[majiclab]

Did anyone else notice their Mighty Mouse scrolling a lot slower? Ever since I got my Intel iMac I thought that my MM scrolling was a little too sensitive, had it at the lowest setting! After the update, it was painfully slow...

[kugino]

i read a post where someone got flip4mac working??? i tried to install it last night on my imac...it installed fine, but it's not working. i doubt that the 10.4.5 update was to "fix" flip4mac.

the intel download of the update is over 90mb...

my keyboard shortcuts for screen brightness were removed after the update...and i can't seem to get it back...

[iflipper]

I'm hoping that this will stop safari crashing all the time like it is!

EDIT: I have to restart, see you on the otherside!

Not just me then. So far so good following the restart...

[lucab1982]

Wahooo!

Mail remembers my passwords! :D

[solidbreakz]

Interesting. On my girl's SC Dual 1.8GHz PMG5 the fans would intemittently go nuts with 10.4.3 and 10.4.4. With 10.4.5, the fans still intermittently pipe-up but just as they're about to go full-tilt, they get quiet. This is even with CPUs set to Highest. Anyone who had this problem experience the same with this update?

[spellflower]

My thoughts are that from now on just about any Apple software update is going to be Universal Binary for both PowerPC and Intel Macs. This is not going to be good for us with Power PC's. We will never actually really know 100% for sure that the updates we are installing fixes something specific in our PowerPC Macs or if they are just Universal Binary improvements/fix's. Something is bound to go wrong somewhere....

I'm not going to be as anxious to update anymore. My OS 10.4.5 update in SU was a miniscule 6.4 MB. Something tells me that very little was fixed in 10.4.5 on the PowerPC side.... Makes me think what other updates are coming down the line that is going to make my iMac not work as good because Apple no longer cares about us PowerPC owners. Just my 2 cents.

I was about to install 10.4.5, when I read this. Does any one else think it's not worth updating power pc machines?

[ChrisBrightwell]

Installed on my PowerBook last night (see sig). Was a little more than 6MB, no issues (yet).

[brepublican]

This is definitely good news. But I can't afford all the ****** I got with 10.4.4, my PB and iPod are still suffering from that horrible, horrible update :mad:

Will install tomorrow *fingers crossed*

[codepoet80]

I'm having problems with waking from sleep in 10.4.5 on my PowerMac G4 Dual MDD... anyone know a fix?

[iPhil]

I did a "Clean" install of tiger last night just for fun :o :D :o

Now i'm running on X.4.5 with no problems as i know of :D

So another no-problem update for me

I needed the experince of install of Mac OSX, so i don't screw up it again ;) :o ;)


i dragged an old home folder into a new home folder

[milo]

I was about to install 10.4.5, when I read this. Does any one else think it's not worth updating power pc machines?

Why wouldn't it be? Apple does list some PPC fixes, if there weren't any they'd make the update Intel only.

[mattraehl]

Makes me think what other updates are coming down the line that is going to make my iMac not work as good because Apple no longer cares about us PowerPC owners. Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, you're probably right. Now that Apple has sold a couple thousand Intel machines, they are going to alienate the millions of PowerPC users out there, including probably 95% of the computers they are using themselves.

[emulator]

Amazingly Safari is slower than ever. :mad: I must stop using it altogether and make Camino my default.

[nxent]

6.4MB?! This must be the smallest OS X point update ever!

Oh well. Safari, Dashboard and Epson printing. I use those three :)

AppleMatt

yeh didn't they just release 4.4? anyway, anyone know if they got that issue resolved with VPN and 10.4?

[lucab1982]

Well my iMac Core Duo is loving this, handbrake is ripping at 32fps average, up from 27 before the update. :D

[Burai]

I'm not going to be as anxious to update anymore. My OS 10.4.5 update in SU was a miniscule 6.4 MB. Something tells me that very little was fixed in 10.4.5 on the PowerPC side. The fixes were really more Intel Mac related even though Apple has "two" distinct versions of the 10.4.5 update. I really doubt much was changed and in my case it made it worse. Makes me think what other updates are coming down the line that is going to make my iMac not work as good because Apple no longer cares about us PowerPC owners. Just my 2 cents.

Of course the Intel update was bigger. It's the first update to the OS on a brand new platform and I'd rightly expect the number of bugs and unforseen glitches to be much higher than those on tried and tested platforms.

What you have is some kind of insane bug envy. What you're saying in essence, is that you wanted 10.4.4 PowerPC to be more buggy and broken, just so you could have an update as big as the one for the Intel machines? Or maybe you'd have preferred the same fixes, but 80MB of useless dummy files? Would that have made you feel more special?

What problems were you having that haven't been fixed in this update? If the answer is none, then I've got no idea why you're moaning. Apple can't issue patches that fix bugs which don't exist. Not even if it makes you feel better about yourself.

[Elektronkind]

Yes. DST is in fact changing. They probably forgot to slip that in the last update as you have said...

Must you be so pessimistic?

Other OSes (Solaris, RedHat to name a few) just released TZ patches this month for this. AFAIK, MS hasn't released one for Windows yet.

Chill on the "ooooh, Apple must be behind the times" tone.

/dale

[cantthinkofone]

i installed the update on my ibook last night. no problems so far. I only used it for about a hour after the update. Ever since i got my ibook, i have fought with it to like the G5 i have. They dont like to network togeather to do a file transfer big or small. My ibook will either hang for a minute with the spinning beach ball and the finder locks up and i have to do a force quit on the finder, or it will say my login info is wrong. I can only seem to go from ibook to G5, and not G5 to ibook which i would like to do because its faster:p . I was hoping this would fix it but it hasnt so far. I still need to install it on the G5 tho...

I think it did fix the audio balance changing on my ibook tho. Usally it would change every other time i used itunes. Havent noticed it yet. Altho i havent noticed it changing for about a week.

Restart was slow as it always is for me after a update. I have only restarted it twice since i have had it, for x.4.4 and for x.4.5.

Does any one else have a problem with quicktime not playing the full video? If i am downloading a video and i go to preview it while its downloading it will play fine until it gets to the spot where its to on the download. Then when its done it wont play all of it on quicktime. I have to use VLC to play all of it. And VLC will lock up on me. Only plays audio, no video.

[joecirca79]

:mad:
Booooooooo! Dashboard and expose has frozen up on me twice. Had to restart.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

:mad:
Booooooooo! Dashboard and expose has frozen up on me twice. Had to restart.Repair your permissions (http://guides.macrumors.com/Repairing_Permissions)...

[Seasought]

Has anyone experienced the stuttering sound problem on their Powerbook since updating?

Just curious. I haven't yet personally.

[wasimyaqoob]

Good stuff from Apple as USUAL, just got my iLife 06 and my iWork 06 today as well :D

[ifjake]

i just had my powerbook lock up when using dashboard. lock up completely. we're talking windows 95 lock up. no i couldn't force quit anything. this never happened before this update. does anyone know how i could revert back to 10.4.4. this update was only 6 megabytes for me. why did i do it? ugh.

[ifjake]

Repair your permissions (http://guides.macrumors.com/Repairing_Permissions)...

He might be right. I repaired permissions and tons of Widget related permissions were changed. Hopefully this means the problem is solved. Any problem that completely locks up the system is a very bad problem. Full system freezes should not happen like this anymore.

[AndrewWx]

Installed from the combo updater on rev B 20" imac, rev B 17" imac, and a 17" 1.67ghz powerbook. No problems except for long grey screen time upon first restart.

followed the somewhat cautious: Disk Warrior, Cocktail Pilot w/ restart, combo install, restart, Cocktail Pilot w/ restart upgrade path.

No love for Nikon D200 RAW images though, jpegs work.

[clcnyc]

Since 10.4.4., I no longer see RSS updates in my Safari. Tried everything, to no avail. Anyone else having this issue still?

20" 2.1 GHz iMac G5 (iSight) 10.4.5. 1.5 Gigs RAM

[ppnkg]

Installed the update last night. Works fine for me.

[VicMacs]

check your software updates! i hope this fixes all the annoying bugs in imovie, iphoto etc...

[Stinkythe1]

Anyone else have trouble with the menu items disappearing. The only menu items that appear are from external apps (gmail notifier, adium). There's no clock, wireless, bluetooth, etc. I have a 12" PB 1.5.

This happened to me too. I had to go through system preferences and disable/enable them in order for them to come back up/be in the correct place. I also have a 12" PB 1.5ghz, but no frontrow hack.

[WildCowboy]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already...I noticed that, just like the 10.4.4 update, this update removed the Bluetooth icon from my menu bar. In System Preferences, the "Show Bluetooth status in the menu bar" is checked...unchecking and rechecking the box brings back the icon. Easily fixed, but a little bit annoying.

[Seasought]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already...I noticed that, just like the 10.4.4 update, this update removed the Bluetooth icon from my menu bar. In System Preferences, the "Show Bluetooth status in the menu bar" is checked...unchecking and rechecking the box brings back the icon. Easily fixed, but a little bit annoying.

This didn't happen to me and I use a bluetooth mouse. *shrugs*

[ibook30]

I accepted the updates last night, and was unable to load web pages through Safari. I shut down overnight, and am now back home and rebooted, working fine. Although - this is the first update I have had problems with. Additionally, it hasn't made Safari "snappier". On the contrary, it seems sluggish. Turkey dinner sluggish. :(

[howesey]

I'm guessing Apple called it 10.4.5 so it falls inline with Darwin 8.5 which was released the other day.

[super mini (mac]

I'm guessing Apple called it 10.4.5 so it falls inline with Darwin 8.5 which was released the other day.


apple have called it a 10.4.5 because 10.4.4 was the previous update :D

[super mini (mac]

the only time i have had problems whaen updating the OS like moving from 10.4.3 to 10.4.4 is when i had a few programmes still running. and i had a lot of trouble, i had lost all my bookmarks, itunes music library and playlists, and programmes like real player, media player for mac, utilitunes etc


this time i did it with out having any programmes running, thats all of them quited and not just open with no windows open.

it downloaded about 6 mins if that, said restat and it did
and not a problem

[Fireburst]

Update worked like a charm here. No problems detected thus far.

[cgc]

Funny... About This Mac reports that I'm running 10.4.5 even before I restarted, even before Software Update is finished... :confused:
That's normal...

[amanset]

Why wouldn't it be? Apple does list some PPC fixes, if there weren't any they'd make the update Intel only.

None of them seem to be about Firewire though and there were loads of complaints about Firewire after 10.4.4, People were having drives unmount and, scarily having drives cirrupted. Myself, I am stuck on 10.4.3 as I keep my OSX installation on an external firewire drive (its a bit faster than the Mini's internal effort) and every upgrade to 10.4.4 from every possible angle ended up in a kernel panic on the grey bootup screen, my guess being the boot drive was unmounted during booting.

I guess I'll be waiting until 10.4.6 now.

[le sacre]

Wonder if this update fixes G4 Powerbook sound issues? Anyone know?

Abraham

my 12" powerbook 1.33 GHz has seemingly been cured of his audio problems. that is, he no longer sporadically and unpredictably thinks headphones are plugged in when they are not (muting the internal speakers). at least, not since last night when i updated. i'm pleased.

EDIT: nope, the problem is still there. NOT fixed.

[Phat_Pat]

noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my up time

up 36 days, 37 mins


its gone


ahh so much has happened in these 36 days.

[iomar]

After updating my computer. i was not able to log on to my computer anymore.

It took me a long time to finally figure what to do to fix my problem. I had to log in as the root user and than go to quick user switching and by doing this it worked.

So be a little careful with this update.

[jaynyc]

my 12" powerbook 1.33 GHz has seemingly been cured of his audio problems. that is, he no longer sporadically and unpredictably thinks headphones are plugged in when they are not (muting the internal speakers). at least, not since last night when i updated. i'm pleased.

I had that same problem! Does seem to gone so far, as does the really slow startup time i was getting.

[p0intblank]

Somewhat critical problem found! Ever since installing 10.4.5, control-clicking restarts my Finder. It happens in a Finder window and on the desktop. I have no way of control-clicking outside of applications. Is this happening for anyone else?

[heisetax]

New in software update:


The 10.4.5 Update is recommended for all users and includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes for the following applications and technologies:

- iChat video conferencing
- Safari rendering of web pages
- usability of Dashboard and widgets
- viewing of QuickTime streaming media behind a firewall
- printing to some Epson printer models
- iDisk and Portable Home Directory syncing
- time zone and daylight savings for 2006 and 2007
- VPN connections to Cisco servers when using NAT
- compatibility with third party applications and devices
- previous standalone security updates

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n303179.

For detailed information on Security Updates, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798.


The only thing I notice is stability problems. I've had 3 abnormal total system lockups & many problem with Excel. I ended up not being able to save files to one hard drive. I got that problem fixed for now. Will tell you if it happens again.

For now I will not upgrade or should for me say downgrade to OS 10.4.5 from OS 10.4.4.

[jelloshotgun]

Anyone else have trouble with the menu items disappearing. The only menu items that appear are from external apps (gmail notifier, adium). There's no clock, wireless, bluetooth, etc. I have a 12" PB 1.5.

Messing around some, I think it has to do with the front row hack. If I try to go to keyboard preferences and click on keyboard shortcuts, it always crashes... Anyone know of an uninstall for the Front Row hack? Thanks

So, this is just an FYI for anyone else that might have this problem... Basically reinstalling the Front Row hack fixes it. I also got rid of the bezelservices Private Framework, but I'm not sure if that was a necessary step. I was under the (apparently mistaken) assumption that 10.4.5 disabled the FrontRow hack, but in actuality (at least for me) it just breaks it.

[encro]

/System/Library/CoreServices
Crash Reporter.app
Dock.app
MirrorAgent.app
SystemVersion.plist

/System/Library/Extensions
AppleFileSystemDriver.kext
IOI2CControllerPMU.kext
IOI2CControllerPPC.kext
IOI2CControllerSMU.kext
IOI2CFamily.kext
IPFirewall.kext
System.kext
Unsupported.kext
msdosfs.kext

/System/Library/Filesystems
msdos.fs

/System/Library/Frameworks
ApplicationServices.framework
Foundation.framework
Kernel.framework
Quartz.framework
System.framework
WebKit.framework

/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks
FileSync.framework
Install.framework
SoftwareUpdate.framework

/System/Library/QuickTime
QuartzComposer.component

/System/Library/Screen Savers
RSS Visualizer.qtz

/System/Library/WidgetResources/AppleClasses/
AppleScrollArea.js

/private/var/db/dyld/
update-prebinding-paths.txt

/usr/lib/
libSystem.B.dylib

/usr/libexec/
crashdump

/usr/sbin/
racoon

/usr/share/icu/
icudt32b.dat

/usr/share/zoneinfo/
[Omitted :: The list of timezones updated was extensive, I'd take a guess that it was the whole folder]

[Todd H]

Well, I've developed a problem with mine after updating that I did not notice earlier. If my wife tries to shutdown the computer on her account it goes to the blue screen and sits indefinitely (the little spinning wheel just continues on and on and on). It doesn't do it on my accounts though. I tried deleting her account and making her a new one but it does it on the new one as well. I also tried repairing permissions with no effect. Anybody else have this problem?

[le sacre]

my 12" powerbook 1.33 GHz has seemingly been cured of his audio problems. that is, he no longer sporadically and unpredictably thinks headphones are plugged in when they are not (muting the internal speakers). at least, not since last night when i updated. i'm pleased.

I had that same problem! Does seem to gone so far, as does the really slow startup time i was getting.

i spoke too soon. the problem is back today, much to my despair. i'm going back to my hypothesis that it's a hardware failure (one the powerbook is highly susceptible to?), despite the fact that the problem appeared shortly after i installed 10.4.4. :(

[hob]

OH MY GOD! What's going on? Since this update both of my machines have been sick to differing degrees. My slim-light almost-empty except critical apps Powerbook 12" is slow as if it is full (as in no HD space totally laggy full)

My PowerMac stopped reading one half of my RAID array earlier, (1 out of 2 drives ;)) and developed a strange chirping sound. Constant use of Disk Utility and a few crashes later and it's mysteriously back up again, with seemingly random crashes and a Kernal Panic all in the space of 2-3 hours.

I wouldn't be blaming the update if both my machines weren't displaying similar symptoms... straight after install.

:confused: :mad:

[generik]

10.4.5 is probably not finished.. seeing as to how they rushed it out hours after 10.4.4 got cracked on x86 Dulls.

[p0intblank]

Somewhat critical problem found! Ever since installing 10.4.5, control-clicking restarts my Finder. It happens in a Finder window and on the desktop. I have no way of control-clicking outside of applications. Is this happening for anyone else?

Is anyone else having the same problem? I've tried repairing permissions and that did not fix it.

[hob]

control-clicking what?

[jhartung]

i spoke too soon. the problem is back today, much to my despair. i'm going back to my hypothesis that it's a hardware failure (one the powerbook is highly susceptible to?), despite the fact that the problem appeared shortly after i installed 10.4.4. :(

Me too. I'm on a 12" powerbook, and yeah, all my startup problems started with 10.4.4. I've gotten every kind of startup issue, from not starting at all, to taking forever, to going lightning fast, to just now asking me to log in suddenly and then booting my desktop but the panel with the blue bar just sits there on top of it trying to finish. Do you think this is a hardware issue. It's so frustrating because the apple store people can't reproduce it consistently so they won't take it in.

[p0intblank]

control-clicking what?

Anything within Finder, be it an Application icon or just empty space.

Edit: Never mind. I fixed the problem by deleting the JIMZip.plugin file in my Contextual Menu folder. I found the answer on Apple's Discussion Boards.

[jhartung]

Me too. I'm on a 12" powerbook, and yeah, all my startup problems started with 10.4.4. I've gotten every kind of startup issue, from not starting at all, to taking forever, to going lightning fast, to just now asking me to log in suddenly and then booting my desktop but the panel with the blue bar just sits there on top of it trying to finish. Do you think this is a hardware issue. It's so frustrating because the apple store people can't reproduce it consistently so they won't take it in.

Hmm, well I just tried something new which seems to have worked for the short term. I enabled root user and then disabled my account. Then I created a new one. Of course, I sort of had to put eveything back in it's right place, but my startup time seems back to normal. For now.

[joecirca79]

Repair your permissions (http://guides.macrumors.com/Repairing_Permissions)...
Did that before and after the update. Another problem i've found is that when i drag files to Photoshop on my dock (while PS is already open), the files won't open. Lame.:mad:

[blybug]

After installing 10.4.5, for the first time in the year I've had my Dual G5 1.8, the fans are not blasting full blow 90% of the time.