Who's going to win the Superbowl? [Archive]

ChicagoMac

Jan 23, 2003, 11:24 PM

We, on this site, seem to be able to predict so many things, why not the winner of the Superbowl? Who is going to win and why?

BTW, I really could care less who wins, but it's a sure way to start a conversation. :D I've walked in to rooms where nobody was saying much and I say something like, "hey, what about that game last night?" It always works. Usually I have no idea if there even was a game. Amazing how we become so emotionally attached to something we have nothing to do with.

jefhatfield

Jan 23, 2003, 11:32 PM

tampa bay by 7 because while both teams have a good offense, tampa bay has an amazing defense

tampa's coach, jon gruden, built the raiders to where they are right now and he has the edge of knowing his opponent

tampa's qb brad johnson reminds me of a strong qb like the way favre and aikman used to be in their absolute prime

and speaking about prime, legendary players like brown, rice, woodson, romanowski, and gannon (all raiders and the heart of the team) are all over 35 years old and are not at their physical peak in each of their heydey

i want to see the raider's jerry rice get a 4th ring for his finger at age 40 and see the raider's tim brown get his first ring...in his late-30s:D

Over Achiever

Jan 23, 2003, 11:53 PM

Winner: Tampa Bay
Why: Gut feeling :D

ecino1

Jan 24, 2003, 12:28 AM

Tampa Bay for sure. Both teams have superb defence, but I think Tampa will prevail. I'll take Tampa by 10.

jefhatfield

Jan 24, 2003, 12:34 AM

anybody think oakland can pull this one off?

while i say tampa by 7, i can see tampa by only one point also

overall, it won't be a massacre of oakland

3rdpath

Jan 24, 2003, 12:36 AM

who's playing?

jefhatfield

Jan 24, 2003, 12:40 AM

oakland raiders (afc) vs tampa bay bucs (nfc)

krossfyter

Jan 24, 2003, 02:53 AM

i had no idea the superbowl was around the corner. shows you how much i keep up with sports. i think ill watch it for the commercials like i usually do if i do watch it. i'd much rather watch a documentary on the chupacabra!

mcrain

Jan 24, 2003, 08:50 AM

If Tampa can pressure Gannon and force his accuracy to drop, they win. If Oakland protects Gannon or Gannon has a good day despite pressure, they win.

I don't think either team will be able to run the ball much. The key will be how well Tampa's defense shuts down Oakland. If Oakland puts up 20+ points on the board, I can't see Tampa winning.

My prediction: Either -- Tampa 21 - Oakland 10, or Tampa 17 - Oakland 37

Backtothemac

Jan 24, 2003, 08:54 AM

I agree with mcrain. I also think that the key is going to be if Oakland can stop Rice and Sapp. That is going to be the game. They get pressure and hit Gannon, forget it. That game will be over. Also, watch for Allstott to run all over Oaklands defense.

3777

Jan 24, 2003, 09:09 AM

I think Gannon will play a great game and definitely put a couple of drives together at least, and I do like Tim Brown and Jerry Rice........but I'll probably be rooting for Tampa. (Especially if it's close, which I think it will be) The Raiders already have some champoinships, this is Tampa's first Superbowl, and how can you not root for chucky.:D

It will be a different story next year, when Jay Fiedlers in the Superbowl:o

jelloshotsrule

Jan 24, 2003, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by 3777
and how can you not root for chucky.:D

you're referring to gruden right?

how come they call him chucky? i have heard it before but never understood....

3777

Jan 24, 2003, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

you're referring to gruden right?

how come they call him chucky? i have heard it before but never understood....

You have to watch the movie Childs Play, and look at the faces the chucky doll makes, then during the Superbowl....watch ......Chucky..... on the sidelines :D

jrv3034

Jan 24, 2003, 09:29 AM

I am.

jelloshotsrule

Jan 24, 2003, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by 3777

You have to watch the movie Childs Play, and look at the faces the chucky doll makes, then during the Superbowl....watch ......Chucky..... on the sidelines :D

ahh. i've seen child's play... i see now.

so this is a pretty well known thing then? who started it?

3777

Jan 24, 2003, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

ahh. i've seen child's play... i see now.

so this is a pretty well known thing then? who started it?

I think some of the Raider players, but during the games he looks so much like the chucky doll it's scary actually.:D

wdlove

Jan 24, 2003, 11:03 AM

The best team will win, or the one with the fewest errors!

jefhatfield

Jan 24, 2003, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by wdlove
The best team will win, or the one with the fewest errors!

oakland, in their passion to win, will definitely cause more errors and it will cost them dearly

but on this year, for the firs time in two decades, they have enough skills and experience to counteract the stupid penalties they often seem to rack up more than anybody else in the nfl

with the raiders, its always three steps forward and two steps back and they end up still pulling off wins...despite three decades of blowing superbowl chances more than any team in history

with their forty year win loss record, they should have six superbowl rings...or more

no team has won more in the regular season in football, or any sport, more than the raiders

teams with much less impressive records like the steelers, cowboys, and the 49ers have more superbowl rings than the raiders

and the lesser green bay packers and washington redskins have as many superbowl rings as the raiders

so it won't be the penalties that kill this year's raiders, it will be that that are the choke artists of all time in the playoffs...they have been to the playoffs 21 times since the superbowl era and have only three rings to show for it

that is one in seven

the raiders choke reflex is why i give it to the titans in a low scoring, close game

jelloshotsrule

Jan 24, 2003, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by jefhatfield
and the lesser green bay packers and washington redskins have as many superbowl rings as the raiders

the raiders choke reflex is why i give it to the titans in a low scoring, close game

i wouldn't say the packers are "lesser"... and i'm not sure about the redskins... the raiders "bad" years are basically not as bad... it's not like they have always dominated, year after year, and choked come playoff time... they've just had very few terrible years.

the titans are gonna win?

i'll take that bet! ;)

jefhatfield

Jan 24, 2003, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

i wouldn't say the packers are "lesser"... and i'm not sure about the redskins... the raiders "bad" years are basically not as bad... it's not like they have always dominated, year after year, and choked come playoff time... they've just had very few terrible years.

the titans are gonna win?

i'll take that bet! ;)

as for win loss record, the raiders are the best in football...or any sport in america...the baltimore orioles have the next best record and may have possibly surpassed the raiders during their funky time in the 90s

the raiders don't have that many poor regular seasons and they have made the playoffs 21 times...maybe the cowboys and niners have also or pretty darn close, but those two teams have five rings each

oakland, if they win, will get their 4th ring, and with their 3rd ring having been put on their fingers in january 84, nearly 20 years ago...sad, but true

the raiders invented choke

jelloshotsrule

Jan 24, 2003, 12:35 PM

can you post these win/loss records?

i've never come across "all time records"... thanks

jefhatfield

Jan 24, 2003, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
can you post these win/loss records?

i've never come across "all time records"... thanks

last time i checked, the raiders had an all time .569 record with the orioles of baseball just behind...in 2001

with coach john madden in the 70s, the raiders had an astounding .750 record in ten years...amazing, but only one ring

3777

Jan 24, 2003, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by jefhatfield

the raiders invented choke

Again...... nobody chokes like my Miami Dolphins:cool:

krossfyter

Jan 24, 2003, 01:47 PM

okay football/sports junkies...

if oakland wins will there be a riot in the city?

jefhatfield

Jan 24, 2003, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by krossfyter
okay football/sports junkies...

if oakland wins will there be a riot in the city?

every team has a riot after a win...the local bay area press likes to do stories on oakland...especially because of all the shootings recenetly

krossfyter

Jan 24, 2003, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by jefhatfield

every team has a riot after a win...the local bay area press likes to do stories on oakland...especially because of all the shootings recenetly

true but when west coast people riot its a different story! things happen that make news for months to come. aint going to be a cornbread hilly billy boy riot thats for sure.

TheMightyG

Jan 24, 2003, 02:41 PM

Who's going to win on Super Bowl Sunday?

Easy. Pizza Hut.

Many cows and pigs died to bring all you fans this many two for one Meat lovers Super Bowl Specials.....

krossfyter

Jan 24, 2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by TheMightyG
Who's going to win on Super Bowl Sunday?

Easy. Pizza Hut.

Many cows and pigs died to bring all you fans this many two for one Meat lovers Super Bowl Specials.....

lol

these animals die everyday for more then just meat lovers pizza. will there be an increase in these deaths because of a increase in producing meat lovers pizza??? ummm nah... they are already dead. its just being re proportioned!

a good thing to figure out is how much beer is consumed on superbowl day compared to total number of days in a year minus 1.

err i forgot how many days there is in a year... back to school for krossftyer!

blah

Frobozz

Jan 24, 2003, 03:12 PM

For several reasons:

1) Every time the team with the number one defense has gone to the superbowl they have won.

2) Tampa's offense, while not number one like the Raiders, has put up SIGNIFICANT numbers this year. We're talking 21 to 35 a game in most cases.

3) Gruden knows his old team and can exploit them. Not so the other way around.

4) Tampa Bay has the momentum, IMHO.

Tampa Bay by no less than 7 points.

mcrain

Jan 24, 2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by jefhatfield
the raiders choke reflex is why i give it to the titans in a low scoring, close game

The Titans? Last time I checked the Raiders were playing the Bucs.

Then again, this is a mac rumors board... sports discussions here are probably about as meaningful as sports discussions backstage at the Miss America Pageant.

krossfyter

Jan 24, 2003, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by mcrain

Then again, this is a mac rumors board... sports discussions here are probably about as meaningful as sports discussions backstage at the Miss America Pageant.

exactly!

which is why im trying to swipe and or steer the subject.

some threads deserve to be hijacked for the good of the world and to extinguish communist propaganda in a capitalist society.

:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

jefhatfield

Jan 24, 2003, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by mcrain

The Titans? Last time I checked the Raiders were playing the Bucs.

Then again, this is a mac rumors board... sports discussions here are probably about as meaningful as sports discussions backstage at the Miss America Pageant.

did i say titans...he he..i meant buckaroos;)

ChicagoMac

Jan 24, 2003, 09:37 PM

I knew it would work! It always does;) This is just like throwing fresh meat to a pack of wolves.

Krossfyter, if you would like to talk about pizza, start your own thread:p Or I'll start one for you to join in on. Of course, if I do a search I'll probably find somebody already did one about pizza.

jefhatfield

Jan 26, 2003, 02:43 AM

with all the posters out there in macrumors land, why hasn't there been anybody to stand up for the raiders?

are they that doomed?

gametime is half a day away

jefhatfield

Jan 27, 2003, 12:16 AM

oakland raiders lose in the superbowl to the bucs while not long ago the san francisco 49ers were eliminated from the playoffs

in baseball, the san francisco giants lost in game 7 of the world series, and before that, the oakland A's were eliminated from the playoffs

i have to say, this has not been the best sports season for the san francisco bay area

krossfyter

Jan 27, 2003, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by jefhatfield
oakland raiders lose in the superbowl to the bucs while not long ago the san francisco 49ers were eliminated from the playoffs

in baseball, the san francisco giants lost in game 7 of the world series, and before that, the oakland A's were eliminated from the playoffs

i have to say, this has not been the best sports season for the san francisco bay area

well at least the teams got close.

a lot of other teams dont get that far.