When is Microsoft going to update their list of XBox games playable on the 360!? [Archive]

wwooden

Mar 4, 2006, 08:11 AM

I had a regular XBox, now I have a 360. I got rid of the XBox but kept most of the games because Microsoft said "we want to eventually have all the XBox games playable on the 360". Only 4 of the 10 or so XBox games I have are on the list of 200 now playable. It says on the XBox website that they update often, well it hasn't been updated since December. It's really starting to annoy me that they haven't added to the list in almost 3 months. I hope this isn't going to be the pace we can expect forever. I have this fear that the next update will not even be 200 games, more like their last update in that they added all the Tom Clancy games, and nothing else. Games that I'd like to see added are Dead to Rights, Counterstrike, and a couple more that I can't remember because I am not at my place at the moment.

Anyone else waiting for more games to added to the list and which ones do you want?

Tommyg117

Mar 4, 2006, 09:34 AM

Black. I don't want to have to buy a game for xbox 1 again because it is no longer hooked up to the TV, but is in a closet. I heard they weren't going to release a patch for Black though.

rehlers

Mar 4, 2006, 10:26 AM

This has been a bit of a disappointment for me as well, but since I did not own many xbox games, I sold them off and just figured I would wait for xbox 360 native games instead. March will have me covered finally. Burnout Revenge and Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter come out March 9th, then Elder Scrolls IV:Oblivion on March 20th. I'll be too busy with those to care about the old games. :)

erickkoch

Mar 4, 2006, 10:30 AM

I was disapointed that Black was coming out for Xbox.

I've kept Doom, Area-51, Soul Caliber, and Chronicles of Riddick hoping for a patch to play them on my new system.

I understand that some games may never be compatible so I wish MS would make a small list of games that will never work, that way I can at least get rid of them and move on instead of holding out hope of a patch.

combatcolin

Mar 4, 2006, 11:12 AM

Amazing how the need to buy a 360 dispeared so quickly.

OnceUGoMac

Mar 4, 2006, 11:39 AM

I'm lucky. All the X Box games I have are on the list.

ZildjianKX

Mar 4, 2006, 01:16 PM

Amazing how the need to buy a 360 dispeared so quickly.

Yep, you're right.

It's also hard to believe some of the big games they've left off, like Rainbow 6 Lockdown, Mech Assault series, Project Gotham series (to help sales maybe?).

I'd also love to see Beyond Good and Evil... really, the PS3 is going to mop the floor with the Xbox 1 as backwards compatibility goes. I would love it if they offered resolution upscaling like the 360 does.

MacRumorUser

Mar 4, 2006, 01:52 PM

New BC update should be available this month. Whether black is compatible remains to be seen.

However with

Ghost Recon : Advanced Warfighter
Farcry Instincts
Fight Night Round 3 (Out 10th UK)
The Outfit
Burnout Revenge
Elder Scrolls 3 : Oblivion
Blazing Angels : Squadrons of WW2

All in March & in April/May

Tombraider
TimeShift
TopSpin 2
Test Drive Unlimited
Final Fantasy XI
The Godfather

Football Manger
LMA Manager
Prey
MotoGP 2006
Saints Row
Dead Rising
Chromehounds

If the next 3 months dont provide you with something for your 360 other than worrying about a BC update, then maybe you should sell it to me for 50p ;)

MacRumorUser

Mar 4, 2006, 01:58 PM

I'd also love to see Beyond Good and Evil... really, the PS3 is going to mop the floor with the Xbox 1 as backwards compatibility goes. I would love it if they offered resolution upscaling like the 360 does.

Please no fanboyism's. They get so tiring. It doesn't make you intelligent listening and regurgitating Sony's hyperbole. Just take it as it is, marketing rubbish. Let's wait and see what the ps3 is like when released before comparing it shall we.

Dont count on a Beyond Good & Evil sequel. I love the game and bought it twice, first on the ps2 & then xbox.... Unfortunately i'm in the minority and the game failed to make any impact on the sales charts.

Studios don't like taking too many risks these days, a real shame. But if a pure gem like this doesn't sell, who can blame them.. It's our (the consumers) fault.

GFLPraxis

Mar 4, 2006, 02:05 PM

I had a regular XBox, now I have a 360. I got rid of the XBox but kept most of the games because Microsoft said "we want to eventually have all the XBox games playable on the 360".

You actually believed them? :(

2nyRiggz

Mar 4, 2006, 02:11 PM

Mord

Mar 4, 2006, 03:06 PM

i'd like european 60Hz support for all games and support for SWBF II and far cry

GFLPraxis

Mar 4, 2006, 03:08 PM

I think it is stupid not to have ALL of the games from the xbox period playing on the new system. Sony did it right, Nintendo is doing it right with the DS/GBA/REV. I just don't understand why they couldn't make it so...oh well maybe it's just me.

I have alot of xbox games that i cant play on the 360: Freedom Fighters, Otagi and many more which sucks for me because I gave my xbox to my brother in-law.

Bless

With the system they have, it's impossible to make it work all purpose. The DS and the GBA SP and the PS2 all have some hardware from the earlier system to properly run the old games. The Revolution will have the same architecture as the GameCube so backwards compatability is native. We don't know about the PS3. Microsoft had a new architecture, so no native compatability, and wanted to save money, so no hardware from the XBox, thus, the only solution is to one by one patch games.

wwooden

Mar 4, 2006, 03:13 PM

It's not that I don't like all the new games for the 360, I have 5 of them and they are all great. I just like having a variety of to play and some of the games I have I really enjoyed playing and are a little lest complex.

Dagless

Mar 4, 2006, 04:58 PM

Out of the 4 Xbox games I own, 1 is compatible. Out of the 6 Xbox games I've borrowed off mates, none are compatible.

Ideally for every game to be upscaled to 720p and for all games to work would be bliss.

... Would it be at all possible for hackers to release their own patches in the future? Or will you need the source code for the original games? out of curiosity. those hacker guys are smart.

GFLPraxis

Mar 4, 2006, 07:58 PM

combatcolin

Mar 5, 2006, 02:12 AM

Poor showing from Microsoft.

They should make an effort to get everythng running.

They ar now stuck between a difficult period of the early adoptors and the "wait until Halo" brigade.

And please don't get GFLPraxis started again, you'll never here the eand of it if you rev him back up again.

;)

GFLPraxis

Mar 5, 2006, 04:35 AM

And please don't get GFLPraxis started again, you'll never here the eand of it if you rev him back up again.

Where the heck did that come from? The guy asked a question ("Why can't Microsoft give 100% backwards compatability?"), I answered it. There was no "Nintendo is better!" or "Sony is better!" or "Microsoft sucks!" comments in my post.

Dagless

Mar 5, 2006, 05:21 AM

^ Zomg! U R Such Teh Fanboy!

MacRumorUser

Mar 5, 2006, 05:32 AM

Please guys no more bickering. You make every thread a real drag and the OP gets no benefit from Sony or nintendo comment's when its an Xbox question... When a thread starts about a specific piece of hardware - could we not just keep on topic rather than debasing everything to fanboy silliness?

I'm not singling out anyone - this applies to everyone...
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The main reason BC is such a pain on the 360 is that there is not universal emulator for xbox on the 360. Basically every game patch is an emulator in itself and that's a big task..

i'm disappointed that the promise of every new release would receive a update, but hey i'm still waiting for UB updates for my mac games so I shouldn't complain :)

People have complained that games like Barbie should never have been made BC compated to Burnout, but it doesnt work that way. It's just that Barbie as very simple to emulate....

It looks like the criterion Engine although super powerful on current gen machines is a pain in the arse to emulate (however we are getting our own version of BRevenge, though I imagine the main code has been totally recompiled)

Like i said earlier, Microsoft suggested that we should see a BC update this month so we'll just have to wait and see what has been added.

combatcolin

Mar 5, 2006, 07:49 AM

Where the heck did that come from? The guy asked a question ("Why can't Microsoft give 100% backwards compatability?"), I answered it. There was no "Nintendo is better!" or "Sony is better!" or "Microsoft sucks!" comments in my post.

Told you.

Cut down on the coffee mate and stop over reacting.

;)

I bet you don't remeember do you?

IanC

Mar 5, 2006, 10:08 AM

Personnaly i think Criteon are hodling something back from MS, in order to help sales of Burnout Revenge 360.

I am kinda annoyed how few of my xbox games are on the BC list. Wheres Jet Set Radio Future for example?

bitfactory

Mar 5, 2006, 11:20 AM

I agree about the BC. Not too big of a deal for me - I'll be covered when Burnout is released this week.

On a side note - I think Halo2 looks like crap on the 360. The menus to the actual game; it just looks... well, bad. I appreciate the extra horizontal space in widescreen, though... anyone else think the same?

I did buy Fight Night 3 last week - and all I have to say is "Wow."

MacRumorUser

Mar 5, 2006, 11:49 AM

I did buy Fight Night 3 last week - and all I have to say is "Wow."

I played Fight Night Demo last night on a massive screen (about 90" widescreen) with my HDTV projector and it looks amazing. (same setup that really makes Kameo looks stunning as you see all the extra details, you don get on a small screen)...

Shame I don't like boxing games and with too many games in March for europe it wont be bought... Should have released it in Feb like the US when there was a drought....

GFLPraxis

Mar 5, 2006, 12:03 PM

Told you.

Cut down on the coffee mate and stop over reacting.

;)

I bet you don't remeember do you?

Not really.

But I was up until 3 AM working on my programming project, so frustrations were high...*collapses*

bitfactory

Mar 5, 2006, 02:05 PM

I played Fight Night Demo last night on a massive screen (about 90" widescreen) with my HDTV projector and it looks amazing. (same setup that really makes Kameo looks stunning as you see all the extra details, you don get on a small screen)...

Shame I don't like boxing games and with too many games in March for europe it wont be bought... Should have released it in Feb like the US when there was a drought....

I'm not a big boxing fan, but bought it due to some reviews. Finally got a 360 on thursday (unexpectedly found some while shopping at Costco), so it was time to buy a new TV for my home office as well (Samsung 32" LCD) - FN3 looks amazing - plus it's as deep as you want to dive into it. A friend came over with some beer on friday night and we both immediately picked up on it and played Ali vs. Holyfield for 3 hours straight. ;-) It's def one of the nicest looking games I've seen.

Dagless

Mar 5, 2006, 02:24 PM

...It's def one of the nicest looking games I've seen.

I'd say Yoshi's Island is one of the nicest looking games I've ever seen. Or Ristar.

wwooden

Mar 6, 2006, 09:31 AM

Where did you guys get the information that microsoft was updating the BC list this month? Have a link to a site?

ZildjianKX

Mar 6, 2006, 11:03 AM

Please no fanboyism's. They get so tiring. It doesn't make you intelligent listening and regurgitating Sony's hyperbole. Just take it as it is, marketing rubbish. Let's wait and see what the ps3 is like when released before comparing it shall we.

I'm sorry, but I find this comment offensive. I'm a very unbiased gamer, I've practically owned every console ever made and loved each.

If me stating that the PS3's backward's compatibility is going to kill the 360's, then I guess you bought a 360 and bought into Microsoft's backwards compatibility which is poor at best. Microsoft has set the bar VERY low. Sony has kept up backwards compatibility with the PS2, and there is no evidence that they aren't going to for the PS3.

"PS One and PlayStation 2 are separate formats. PS One games runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever. Just like personal computers or music CD's, the format continues by incorporating it into new products." - Ken Kutaragi. Sony hasn't kept a lot of promises with the PS2, but backwards compatibility does not fall into the 'hyperbole'. Any mention of the PS3 in my post was in reference to my disgust and unhappy I am about how Microsoft is handling things.

You can call me a lot of things, but you can't call me a fanboy.

Haoshiro

Mar 6, 2006, 11:37 AM

I have to agree here, I do not have an Xbox 360 yet but seeing the compatibility list really is disappointing. We are talking a Microsoft owned system here, they have every piece of technical documentation for the system and should be able to pump out a killer emulator for it.

On the PS3 side of things, I honestly do not doubt that it will run PS2/PS1 games just fine, you won't even think about it.

A lot of people I know are excited about Revolution because of the possibility of running NES/SNES/N64 games on it, so this is obviously something people like.

Microsoft, so far, has really dropped the ball here and it's a shame. Almost as if all they *really* cared about was that Halo 1/2 worked... :P

MacRumorUser

Mar 6, 2006, 01:04 PM

I'm sorry, but I find this comment offensive. I'm a very unbiased gamer, I've practically owned every console ever made and loved each.

You can call me a lot of things, but you can't call me a fanboy.

I wasn't aiming the comment directly at you, but to the thread/forum as a whole. How many times does a thread start about a SPECIFIC hardware question and then drifts off to Sony is going to be better.. blah blah.. No Nintendo is the best........ Check every thread it just seems to happen all the time and it's so repetitive and mind numblingly boring..

Even RaggedJimmi just did it with people talking about how nice FN3 looked and ofcourse the post/retort was about another 2D Nintendo game..... :o :o

Sorry if I caused you offense, but you must see my point. Let's keep on topic, or start a new thread if you feel you really must divert from the point raised...

I too will be getting a PS3 & Rev also, not for BC....

The information about March being an update month was with an interview with the guy in charge of BC at Microsoft. There was report that the staff took a long holiday for a couple of months over christmas because they were so tired.. Poor poor them :), and that they envisioned the next BC update sometime in March... Granted it's not official date, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

DrNeroCF

Mar 6, 2006, 03:57 PM

What's wrong with a little fact-based fanboyism now and again? Do you rather the missinfomred mainstream actually buying the poorly launched system?

BC does matter to an extent. I don't have an xbox, so BC would be a fairly solid deciding factor in buying a 360 (though most decent 3rd party games are also made for my gamecube, and Halo's covered by the BC).

It's pretty funny when the only good things I'm hearing about 360 launch games is that if you put it on a giant tv you can see little details that most people can't see that the developer wasted time and money creating (bet that makes you feel special, eh? try Re4 or Metroid Prime or, best of all, Smash Bros. Melee with, ya know... friends, on a 90 inch).

Sadly, it's my opinion that the DS lineup for this year spanks whatever the 360 has on the horizon... And don't get me started on what's been confirmed for the revolution.

MacRumorUser

Mar 6, 2006, 04:24 PM

And my point is proven yet again! :mad: No interest in xbox 360, don't have an xbox and still feel the need to post irrelevant stuff about the DS!!! :rolleyes:

jrk07

Mar 6, 2006, 04:32 PM

I too have owned every console since the NES (except the damned virtual boy) and I have to say that I have no urge whatsoever to get an X-box 360 based solely on microsoft's abandonment of the original x-box and lack of backwards compatability of the games I already own for the original x-box. When Microsoft Game Studio announced that its final game would be Conker, I felt horrible (not to mention the pain I felt when I popped conker in and it was simply a dated platformer with great visuals).

Anyways, my main point is that I basically feel abandoned by Microsoft after buying an x-box and don't feel the need to get burned again with the 360. I feel that they coulda definitely kept the original x-box alive for a few more years, because I felt the games were just barely maxing out the hardware before the 360 was released. And the games were still selling great for it. If they kept up on the backwards compatability of the 360 then they could continue to pump out great games for the original x-box.

On the other hand, my ps2 is STILL getting more and more games that I can't wait to get or are still playing on it.

I am in no way a fanboy, well maybe I am a videogame fanboy, but not for any certain company. I like GOOD GAMES, and if the 360 ever comes out with games that I actually want to play, I will be hard pressed to actually get one.

XNine

Mar 6, 2006, 04:56 PM

Nintendo can ******* off. Lame, boring. "Nintendo this, nintendo that, nintendo is like apple." Nintendo is crap with cartoons and remakes. Get off it.

Jesus.

Anyway, for the original Post, which this has strayed far from, I know what you mean, but I'm not really concerned with original Xbox Titles anymore. It's been mentioned that another update will be made this month, so look forward to that. I know a while back it was mentioned that titles will be released based on one thing: sales of the original release.

Dagless

Mar 6, 2006, 05:30 PM

I wasn't aiming the comment directly at you, but to the thread/forum as a whole. How many times does a thread start about a SPECIFIC hardware question and then drifts off to Sony is going to be better.. blah blah.. No Nintendo is the best........ Check every thread it just seems to happen all the time and it's so repetitive and mind numblingly boring..

Even RaggedJimmi just did it with people talking about how nice FN3 looked and ofcourse the post/retort was about another 2D Nintendo game..... :o :o

Sorry if I caused you offense, but you must see my point. Let's keep on topic, or start a new thread if you feel you really must divert from the point raised...

I too will be getting a PS3 & Rev also, not for BC....

The information about March being an update month was with an interview with the guy in charge of BC at Microsoft. There was report that the staff took a long holiday for a couple of months over christmas because they were so tired.. Poor poor them :), and that they envisioned the next BC update sometime in March... Granted it's not official date, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I was just replying to what the guy above me said, about FN3 being the nicest looking game he's seen. It's like how in the pro-smoking or pro-drinking threads you have anti-smoking and anti-drinking people chipping in their opinions, and vice versa of course. It's the way forums work.

But a fact is that the Revolution will play every single Cube game, and 1st part NES, SNES and N64 games (or whatever Nintendo has the publishing rights for). I suppose they win the BC ring. infact they blow the Xbox 360 right out the water. doesn't make it less of a machine. I'm just saying.

ZildjianKX

Mar 6, 2006, 06:25 PM

I wasn't aiming the comment directly at you, but to the thread/forum as a whole. How many times does a thread start about a SPECIFIC hardware question and then drifts off to Sony is going to be better.. blah blah.. No Nintendo is the best........ Check every thread it just seems to happen all the time and it's so repetitive and mind numblingly boring..

Even RaggedJimmi just did it with people talking about how nice FN3 looked and ofcourse the post/retort was about another 2D Nintendo game..... :o :o

Sorry if I caused you offense, but you must see my point. Let's keep on topic, or start a new thread if you feel you really must divert from the point raised...

I too will be getting a PS3 & Rev also, not for BC....

The information about March being an update month was with an interview with the guy in charge of BC at Microsoft. There was report that the staff took a long holiday for a couple of months over christmas because they were so tired.. Poor poor them :), and that they envisioned the next BC update sometime in March... Granted it's not official date, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

No problemo :)

I just feel bad for the other non-US territories who have a somewhat weaker BC list.

Whotheheck

Mar 6, 2006, 06:27 PM

Nintendo can ******* off. Lame, boring. "Nintendo this, nintendo that, nintendo is like apple." Nintendo is crap with cartoons and remakes. Get off it.

FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY!

(sorry, couldn't resist :p )

ANYWAY, I'm pissed off at the bc list too. My original x-box crapped out on me this past summer and held off on buying one because the 360 was supposed to be bc. Why would Microsoft announce such a thing when most of the x-box games wouldn't work on the 360??? It's like if Sony were to say "oh, btw, when we said that blu-ray was going to be bc, we meant some titles were going to be bc. Good luck!" My PS2 plays my PS1 games just fine and I can play the original Tetris still on my GBASP. I'm thinking about just buying the original x-box again and waiting for the rev/ps3 instead. I don't want my xbox games to go to waste.

XNine

Mar 6, 2006, 07:57 PM

FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY! FANBOY!

(sorry, couldn't resist :p )

ANYWAY, I'm pissed off at the bc list too. My original x-box crapped out on me this past summer and held off on buying one because the 360 was supposed to be bc. Why would Microsoft announce such a thing when most of the x-box games wouldn't work on the 360??? It's like if Sony were to say "oh, btw, when we said that blu-ray was going to be bc, we meant some titles were going to be bc. Good luck!" My PS2 plays my PS1 games just fine and I can play the original Tetris still on my GBASP. I'm thinking about just buying the original x-box again and waiting for the rev/ps3 instead. I don't want my xbox games to go to waste.

Well, it was only natural to assume when they made the announcement a LOOOOOOOONG time ago that they would be using a PPC chip instead of an x86 chip that all softwarw would either
A: have to be re-written
B: there's no way in hell they'd do A, so they would emulate them.

Hell, you can't emulate every piece of windows software through Virtual PC. Same thing here. An emulation profile isn't that large, but it's still quite a bit of work as all of the instruction sets must be ported over.

GFLPraxis

Mar 6, 2006, 08:29 PM

Nintendo can ******* off. Lame, boring. "Nintendo this, nintendo that, nintendo is like apple." Nintendo is crap with cartoons and remakes. Get off it.

Jesus.

Wow, the award for biggest violator of the "no fanboy" rule goes to...

XNine

Mar 6, 2006, 08:48 PM

Wow, the award for biggest violator of the "no fanboy" rule goes to...

Wow, I take action against these people threadcrapping and automatically I'm a "fanboy." lmfao Noob.

After G

Mar 6, 2006, 09:22 PM

Isn't it up to the individual developers to write backwards-compatibility binaries for X-Box 360? I always thought that the "emulation" was just recompiled binaries.

GFLPraxis

Mar 6, 2006, 10:01 PM

Isn't it up to the individual developers to write backwards-compatibility binaries for X-Box 360? I always thought that the "emulation" was just recompiled binaries.

It is, but Microsoft is the one doing it.

GFLPraxis

Mar 6, 2006, 10:02 PM

Wow, I take action against these people threadcrapping and automatically I'm a "fanboy." lmfao Noob.

Flamebaiting is NOT a good way to respond to fanboys. In fact, it is the worst possible way and a rather immature response.

EDIT: In fact, I'm having a hard time finding these "fanboys" you are responding to. I see no outright Nintendo fanboyism (okay that one post by raggedjimmi is a bit overboard), just two people that mention the DS games lineup as being good. There's been just as many people talking about the PS3 too. Looks to me like you're just having a Nintendo bashfest under the guise of "defending the thread" so you can flamebait people and bash them if they respond, since there were no threadcrappers talking about Nintendo.

If someone says, "I prefer Nintendo" in a Microsoft related thread, which is the appropriate response?
(A) Good for you, but we're not talking about Nintendo
or
(B) Nintendo is teh suxxors noob, they're crap and suck and *string of expletives*
? A, obviously, as B will just offend them.

Seriously, be more mature, and stay on the topic of the thread. Stop flamebaiting.

XNine

Mar 6, 2006, 10:17 PM

Flamebaiting is NOT a good way to respond to fanboys. In fact, it is the worst possible way and a rather immature response.

EDIT: In fact, I'm having a hard time finding these "fanboys" you are responding to. I see no outright Nintendo fanboyism (okay that one post by raggedjimmi is a bit overboard), just two people that mention the DS games lineup as being good. There's been just as many people talking about the PS3 too. Looks to me like you're just having a Nintendo bashfest under the guise of "defending the thread" so you can flamebait people and bash them if they respond, since there were no threadcrappers talking about Nintendo.

If someone says, "I prefer Nintendo" in a Microsoft related thread, which is the appropriate response?
(A) Good for you, but we're not talking about Nintendo
or
(B) Nintendo is teh suxxors noob, they're crap and suck and *string of expletives*
? A, obviously, as B will just offend them.

Seriously, be more mature, and stay on the topic of the thread. Stop flamebaiting.

Nah, I'd rather piss them off. Maturity has nothing to do with my response, my response was intended to insult. Flaimbait? Maybe. Justified? Definitely. Your "fanboy" comment justified? Hardly. In fact it's more offensive than what I said, but, after all, your response was very mature. :rolleyes: Given the fact I've stated many times that the NES and SNES are two of the greatest consoles ever, I'd hardly consider myself to be a fanboy of anything, but then again, Nintendo did make Link into a powerpuff girl, and therefor died on that day.

That's nice if someone prefers a Nintendo system over Xbox, PS 2, whatever. Is this kind of thread where you should state that opinion? No. The OP asked what's the deal with the emulation profiles. Not who likes xyz better than abc.

GFLPraxis

Mar 6, 2006, 10:24 PM

Nah, I'd rather piss them off. Maturity has nothing to do with my response, my response was intended to insult. Flaimbait? Maybe. Justified? Definitely. Your "fanboy" comment justified? Hardly. In fact it's more offensive than what I said, but, after all, your response was very mature. :rolleyes: Given the fact I've stated many times that the NES and SNES are two of the greatest consoles ever, I'd hardly consider myself to be a fanboy of anything, but then again, Nintendo did make Link into a powerpuff girl, and therefor died on that day.

That's nice if someone prefers a Nintendo system over Xbox, PS 2, whatever. Is this kind of thread where you should state that opinion? No. The OP asked what's the deal with the emulation profiles. Not who likes xyz better than abc.

Flamebait is prohibited on Macrumors. As for my fanboy comment not being justified, can you classify
Nintendo can ******* off. Lame, boring. "Nintendo this, nintendo that, nintendo is like apple." Nintendo is crap with cartoons and remakes. Get off it.

As anything else?

I'm not defending people getting off topic, but there is JUST as many comments about the PS3 here as about Nintendo, which when added with your rant gives me the impression that you're just trying to offend people, not actually defend the thread from thread crapping.

Trying to tick people off is not going to help. All its going to do is get MORE responses out of them.

XNine

Mar 6, 2006, 11:43 PM

Trying to tick people off is not going to help. All its going to do is get MORE responses out of them.

The only one I see responding to it is you. Hm?

Whotheheck

Mar 7, 2006, 01:34 AM

that's because having a "discussion" with someone like you is pointless :p

Dagless

Mar 7, 2006, 05:54 AM

The only one I see responding to it is you. Hm?

Because I was asleep :p

My cards on the table, which were in non-flaming response to other people here;

- Yoshi's Island is the nicest looking commercial game I've played. It's pretty, it's beautiful. Tied at Windwaker (those godly awesome sunsets) or any Street Fighter game on the Dreamcast or arcade.
- Nintendo's backwards list is huge. between the SP and Revolution Nintendo will offer a massive backwards compatibility list. IF that is your thing. It's mine. I love pixel art.

with an added...
- I can't wait for the Xbox to drop in price and to get Halo 3. I will buy. So long as there's a focus on single player this time round.

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 11:05 AM

To: Onizuka, GFLPraxis, and MacRumorUser

So while I hate to get involved in this friendly off-topic discussion I wanted to just say that all people mentioned are not helping further their "cause."

The majority of content in MacRumorUser's comments has absolutely no purpose being in this thread, nor did Onizuka's or GFLPraxis'.

In the end, even the person seemingly on the defense here (GFLPraxis) is doing nothing but bringing the thread down - it's not helpful!

The best thing to do when people are being ridiculous or impossible is to ignore them - then the thread can drowned them itself. Sure, that may seem hypcritical for me to say (since I'm replying) but honestly, the thread is completely mangled now.

Where are the moderators and administrators? Please, keep people on topic and remove posts that are going to send threads off-topic and/or cause flamewars... thanks.

GFLPraxis

Mar 7, 2006, 12:31 PM

I haven't responded to the arguement since last night, deliberately, FYI, because I saw where it was going.

MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2006, 12:46 PM

XNine

Mar 7, 2006, 12:53 PM

What on earth? A small couple of lines in my posts requesting on topic discussion and a mateur attitude to stop the silliness and yet I'm in the wrong?

And focus on helping the OP and 95% of my replies/posts concentrated on xbox/xbox 360.

I agree. MRU is nearly always on topic. I've never had any problem with him doing anything otherwise.

I also feel that Mr. Praxis had no need to comment on my comment, which brought the thread into the downward spiral. My comment was an attempt to preserve the OP's question, and shut down other discussion. While he raises interesting points, he needs to understand that a lot of people around here are getting tired of this Nintendo tirade others insist on using to promote their feelings.

2nyRiggz

Mar 7, 2006, 01:20 PM

Indeed...every thread have some sort of bashing of the other systems(some being way more than others) thats all i have been noticing since i got involved with the games section. Some of the threads have nothing to do with "whats better" PEOPLE find a way to creep there "My Company's system rules" comments which doesn't need to be.

I have notice a lot of this here and i try to stay out of it but sometimes it's just too much not to comment.(notice my sig, it has alot to do with this fanboy crap)

Bless

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 01:28 PM

What on earth? A small couple of lines in my posts requesting on topic discussion and a mateur attitude to stop the silliness and yet I'm in the wrong?

And focus on helping the OP and 95% of my replies/posts concentrated on xbox/xbox 360.

Well since you asked, and stated a percentage, here's the posts and how much (roughly) was unhelpful to the topic...

Post #9, opening paragraph (33%)
Post #20, opening paragraph, second paragraph/sentence (29%)
Post #31, all except last paragraph (66%)
Post #33 (100%)
Total: 47%

So 4 out of 6 posts has at least something in it that had "absolutely no purpose being in this thread."

So not 95%, but closer to 53% is much more accurate.

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 01:29 PM

MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2006, 01:46 PM

So 4 out of 6 posts has at least something in it that had "absolutely no purpose being in this thread."

So not 95%, but closer to 53% is much more accurate.

your just trolling!! Your posts in this thread have 100% nothing to do with the thread so stop judging others. if anyone needs moderating it's you. 'Less he who is without sin cast the first stone'

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Back OT!

I just bought a couple of secondhand games, Fable - The Lost Chapters on Classic and it's playing like a dog. Framerate seems to be very jumpy on the 360, I checked on my xbox and its fine. I guess the performance of some of the BC games isn't as good as I thought.

Also Crimson Skies has serious audio problems.

Anyone else experienced these, it may be just the second hand copies...

I also have trouble with HALO 1 when using the VGA adapter for the 360.

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 02:05 PM

your just trolling!! Your posts in this thread have 100% nothing to do with the thread so stop judging others. if anyone needs moderating it's you. 'Less he who is without sin cast the first stone'

I expected such a response. Oh well. I mean heck, if someone tells you something true but you deem them to be hypocritical, that means its cool of you dismiss them!

On that note, until the thread completely spiraled out of direction I had nothing to say so I didn't.

I also have trouble with HALO 1 when using the VGA adapter for the 360.

Hmm, this definitely bothers me. What sort of trouble? I was seriously considering replacing my Xbox with a 360 but I was under the impression both Halo 1/2 ran perfect on the 360.

What is this trouble?? :(

MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2006, 02:26 PM

I expected such a response. Oh well. I mean heck, if someone tells you something true but you deem them to be hypocritical, that means its cool of you dismiss them!

On that note, until the thread completely spiraled out of direction I had nothing to say so I didn't.

Hmm, this definitely bothers me. What sort of trouble? I was seriously considering replacing my Xbox with a 360 but I was under the impression both Halo 1/2 ran perfect on the 360.

What is this trouble?? :(

Actually after my couple of attempts to bring back the thread, and it continued!! I stopped posting, until you singled me out and attacked me & my posts. i just wanted sensible discussions, that's not too much to ask is it?

Halo using the VGA, the resolution goes doowally on me and ends up squished. On a widescreen monitor it's still 4:3 but the pictures is in widescreen hence everyone looks like matchstick men....

Works fine via component video, just VGA on my Dell 2005fpw causing the problem.....

Another game I bought today was Chronicles Of Riddick, I could have sworn it was on the first list of BC games, but got home only to find out it didn't work! DOH.......

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 02:59 PM

Actually after my couple of attempts to bring back the thread, and it continued!! I stopped posting, until you singled me out and attacked me & my posts. i just wanted sensible discussions, that's not too much to ask is it?

My apologies for making you feel attacked. I didn't think I was singling one person out, rather three people. ;)

In my experience threads can't get brought back by chastising the offenders because they will just argue back. Which is what my point was, that everyone attempting to bring it back as well as those throwing it off all cause the same end result. It's sad people would rather retaliate then take head to good advice, but that's how it is. :\

Personally it seems getting a thread back on course is most effective by inoffensive requests like "Hey, could we stay on topic rather then bring up other consoles? Thanks." and then follow that up by contacting a mod if necessary.

Halo using the VGA, the resolution goes doowally on me and ends up squished. On a widescreen monitor it's still 4:3 but the pictures is in widescreen hence everyone looks like matchstick men....

Works fine via component video, just VGA on my Dell 2005fpw causing the problem.....

Another game I bought today was Chronicles Of Riddick, I could have sworn it was on the first list of BC games, but got home only to find out it didn't work! DOH.......

Well that is a relief, my new monitor/tv has both component and vga, so I don't think I'd have a reason to use vga over component for the 360.

My main disappointment is that I prefer to minimize the systems I have and having poor BC on the 360 only ends up making people like me not be able to get rid of the original system, making BC pointless for me.

But you know what bugs me more? Controllers! I spent about $150 getting 3 extra controllers for Xbox and if I go for a new system I have to do it all over again! And for what? The Guide button? :(

This is where I throw up other systems because they don't have this problem. PS3 will very likely use the same connectors PS1/PS2 did - very cool! Revolution has 4 GameCube controller ports - excellent.

If only Xbox 360 had adaptors or something. Or perhaps I've missed something and it DOES work with the original controllers?

MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2006, 04:13 PM

This is where I throw up other systems because they don't have this problem. PS3 will very likely use the same connectors PS1/PS2 did - very cool! Revolution has 4 GameCube controller ports - excellent.

If only Xbox 360 had adaptors or something. Or perhaps I've missed something and it DOES work with the original controllers?

Xbox 360 uses USB for wired controllers i'm afraid so I don't think there's any backwards compatability there for old peripherals.

I thought PS3 was going to use wireless controllers?

Rev using cube control ports, well I guess they have to for backwards compatabilty seeing as though their new controller is so so different..

I'll be keeping my Xbox for some time as I have over 230 xbox games and only 3-5% of those play on the 360. It took me a day and a half just booting up disc after disc to see which worked :o

I'm hoping Rev backwards will be region free as my cube games are mainly NTSC but some are pal, though I imagine freeloader should be backwards compatable?

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 04:21 PM

Xbox 360 uses USB for wired controllers i'm afraid so I don't think there's any backwards compatability there for old peripherals.

I thought PS3 was going to use wireless controllers?

Rev using cube control ports, well I guess they have to for backwards compatabilty seeing as though their new controller is so so different..

I'll be keeping my Xbox for some time as I have over 230 xbox games and only 3-5% of those play on the 360. It took me a day and a half just booting up disc after disc to see which worked :o

I'm hoping Rev backwards will be region free as my cube games are mainly NTSC but some are pal, though I imagine freeloader should be backwards compatable?

Hmm, do the 360 controllers work on PC or Mac? I'd think it would at least be possible... and now that you mention that, aren't Xbox controllers technically USB with a clear custom casing around the connector? I thought, at least originally, Xbox was supposed to be USB.

You have a lot of Xbox games! I don't think I ever saw that many I was interested in. Do you have a top 10?

PS3 is wireless but I'm doubting it lack wired controller ports altogether, we'll see.

Here's a pic of the rev's gcn controller ports (http://www.game-machines.com/consoles/syspics/nintendo-revolution-side.jpg).

I haven't used freeloader myself but I don't see why it wouldn't work. Last I heard Revolution contained much of the same hardware as GCN, only improved.

Dagless

Mar 7, 2006, 05:33 PM

the wired 360 controller works on the PC, theres probably some drivers or a hack somewhere for the Mac.

MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2006, 05:36 PM

You have a lot of Xbox games! I don't think I ever saw that many I was interested in. Do you have a top 10?

Not really, I'm just a spendaholic :)

Beyond good & evil, Farranheit, Sudeki, Panzer dragoon, Jet Set Radio future - are about the only games I've actually finished on the xbox, so I guess they rank as some of my favorites. There are tons of games I bought and only played for an hour and then left on the shelf :o

I've Over 120 gamecube games for my classy Panasonic Q, and around 100 Ps2 games, added to my DS, PSP & GBA - loads of pc titles (though I no longer have a gaming pc)...

I have a fair amount of dissposable income I can spend. Have my own house (no mortgage), no dependants and dont drink or smoke, so gaming and technology is my vice I'm afraid.. :D :p :D

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 05:43 PM

Not really, I'm just a spendaholic :)

Beyond good & evil, Farranheit, Sudeki, Panzer dragoon, Jet Set Radio future - are about the only games I've actually finished on the xbox, so I guess they rank as some of my favorites. There are tons of games I bought and only played for an hour and then left on the shelf :o

I've Over 120 gamecube games for my classy Panasonic Q, and around 100 Ps2 games, added to my DS, PSP & GBA - loads of pc titles (though I no longer have a gaming pc)...

I have a fair amount of dissposable income I can spend. Have my own house (no mortgage), no dependants and dont drink or smoke, so gaming and technology is my vice I'm afraid.. :D :p :D

Oooh, the Q, nice! :)

BG&E is great, and JSR:Future is good but I preferred JGR on the Dreamcast personally.

Man, you do own a lot of games so I'll classify you as a collector. As a "Collector" you're allowed to own a bunch of crappy games without any other reason! ;) I try to keep my "collection" down to only good games.

Of course, I've given up my collector habit and sold off most of my stuff... about to sell my Dreamcast and game lot... a couple NES systems... and... I'm keeping my Sega Master System. The Sega CDX is a toss up... i mean, it DOES play Sega Genesis games... **sigh**

Haoshiro

Mar 7, 2006, 05:44 PM

the wired 360 controller works on the PC, theres probably some drivers or a hack somewhere for the Mac.

Correct you are! (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/29122)

I wonder if there will ever be a way to get the wireless gamepads to work. :\

MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2006, 06:22 PM

Correct you are! (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/29122)

I wonder if there will ever be a way to get the wireless gamepads to work. :\

I'm probably just being thick, but does the plug & charge kit turn the wireless pad into a wired usb pad when connected?

Dagless

Mar 7, 2006, 06:23 PM

MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2006, 06:33 PM

hah you sound top. I have a feeling I'll be a little like you once I'm done with university and have a full time job. only you live in Ireland :( so that's +100 exp points

LOL!! Yeah I only really became like this as soon as I finished uni back in 1999 and got my first paycheck. Downward spiral since then :D :D

combatcolin

Mar 8, 2006, 10:16 AM

Abulia

Mar 8, 2006, 01:04 PM

An Xbox thread turns to flames with the "usual suspects" involved? Color me surprised...NOT. :rolleyes:

To the OP, the emulation profile situation is annoying and MS hasn't done a good job. One question I have is who's responsibility is it to make emulation profiles? The dev or MS? I'd assume MS because its their new system, but their choices are...interesting.

For my part, I haven't turned on my original XBox since I got the 360 in Nov. :) In fact, I just traded in the last of my games when I picked up Fight Night Round Three (amazing game).

I did goof around w/ Battlestar Galactica as a Gamefly rental. Playing a non-360 game is, well, not as much fun, honestly. :)

With Ghost Recon now out and Elder Scrolls in a few weeks, we'll have more to tie up our gaming time with. Personally, I've never understood the big deal with backwards compatability, but that's just me I suppose.