More Video iPod Photos and Claims

[MacRumors]

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Over the weekend, MacShrine claimed that it had images of the "iPod AV", a full-screen video iPod. These images were received by the site via an anonymous email submission. This is not the first time claimed images of the rumored video iPod images have circulated. In fact, the same site had previously popularized the earlier video iPod photo (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060223132904.shtml), which was originally posted to Flickr.

These new images (mirrored in Gallery of Video iPod Mockups (http://guides.macrumors.com/Gallery_of_Video_iPod_Mockups)) received a significant amount of attention, with the usual real vs not-real debate. The images were posted on MacRumors Page2 (http://page2.macrumors.com) for lack of any additional information.

A few hours after the images were posted and linked prominently, MacShrine was suspended by their host. Casual onlookers felt it was likely due to excessive bandwidth consumption. Today, however, MacShrine.com claims (http://www.macshrine.com/2006/03/06/ipod-av) that the images were removed at the demand of Apple Legal.

These claims are met with some skepticism due to fact that many sites (Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/05/another-video-ipod-surfaces-online/), Gizmodo (http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/ipod-av-another-unlikely-mockup-158477.php)) continue to prominently display the offending images. Historically, Apple Legal has been very aggressive with Cease and Desist letters against sites posting offending materials, and has never focused on one site alone.

Another remote possibility includes the possibility of counterfeit emails by a 3rd party. Last month, several promiment Mac/iPod sites were fooled into posting news about an upcoming Apple Event when an falsified email was sent to these sites.

[netb0y]

Hope the pics are real!

[Wonder Boy]

i have a shuffle and a nano. if these exist, ill pick one up.

[RichP]

These reported iPod images are getting to be a bit much...at least they all seem to agree on the design!

Rather convenient that these images are taken on top of an airport hifi;right after its release.

[jonomo]

looks cool.. but wouldn't the screen get scuffed, rubbed out, or scratched where the virtual wheel is???

[treblah]

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These claims are met with some skepticism due to fact that many sites (Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/05/another-video-ipod-surfaces-online/), Gizmodo (http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/ipod-av-another-unlikely-mockup-158477.php)) continue to prominently display the offending images. Historically, Apple Legal has been very aggressive with Cease and Desist letters against sites posting offending materials, and has never focused on one site alone.


For the record, Engadget boasts that they have never agreed to a legal request to remove leaked images/info. So, there's that.

[arn]

ya, I apologize for even more ipod photo images. I try to avoid them, but when they get so much attention for other sites, it's hard to ignore.

arn

[arn]

For the record, Engadget boasts about having never agreed to a legal request to remove leaked images/info. So, there's that.

:) Perhaps... but it would be interesting if they got on Apple's bad side. If Apple stops inviting them to their press events, would Engadget cave?

besides, the images are still up in the gallery here too.

arn

[Chundles]

looks cool.. but wouldn't the screen get scuffed, rubbed out, or scratched where the virtual wheel is???

It's a touch screen, they're coated with a hard, matte, scratch and fingerprint-proof finish.

It better be though....

[CANEHDN]

That seems too real to me. If they are going to look like this, I'm in. I love the way it coverts into a current iPod through the display. I'm crossing my fingers.

[jbernie]

Can't say i have looked at the previous photos, but these ones certainly would meet the expected design of such a device.

I would also say that you would expect apple to if nothing else produce a few of these to test the waters, see how good the concept is and how capable the device is. So even if it never went into production i think you could be safe in assuming they do exist.

[withnail]

If these are real, then why is no one posting any clips of them actually playing video content? I mean if someone had one in his/her grubby hands and was bent on being the one to definitively "break" the rumor, that would go a long way towards that end, no?

[Play Ultimate]

I'll take any good news these days...anything to get the AAPL stock back up.

Actually this sounds very good and the recent downturn probably is still a buying op. (even thought I think it may still go lower).

A new exciting product in light of the medium-excitement iPod Hi-Fi and the recent virus/hacking news items may be just the thing to turn things around. :o

[ironicofoeva]

If these are real, then why is no one posting any clips of them actually playing video content? I mean if someone had one in his/her grubby hands and was bent on being the one to definitively "break" the rumor, that would go a long way towards that end, no?


you would think it wouldn't be too hard to take a video when we are seeing some obviously high quality digital pictures. I want this iPod so bad, especially since my 4G recently went *kerplunk* but it seems if you have the time to take a high quality picture of one on a good background and so forth, then you should have to time to take a quick video with the said high quality camera (as most to all now have that option).

[~Shard~]

I have no doubts that the next iPod will definitely be along these lines in terms of technology, look, design, etc, but I am getting sick of these pics and videos. It's getting to the point where I don't even care if they are real or not.

[Daveway]

Don't forget this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1H_d_7CVPc) video.

[revfife]

Dark stairs in someone's house, must be the new elevator :D

In Mexico as well, doesn't Apple release all of their new products there first?

I am in the fake camp this time around as well, sure wish it was real...would make up for the lousy Apple "fun new products" event.

[darwen]

Don't forget this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1H_d_7CVPc) video.

ooh, I have never seen that. It could still be fake... the background does not seem like an environment one would be in but it is certainly cool.

[Mechcozmo]

Apple Legal?

Than it MUST be true.

[EricNau]

I really don't think any of these are real - but I'd love to be proved wrong! :)

[musiclover137]

Can't be real. Not enough fingerprints on the screen :p

Anyway, I had this thought when the shuffle came out;
What does Apple do about hushing the people who model their new products. With the shuffle, the day it came out they had tons of pictures of people using it. I wonder if these pictures are a case of someone getting a early release of the product and not keeping it secret.

Just a thought. Or, it could just be a mock-up again.

Does anyone know about the models though?

[sprstu]

who are the people that get their hands on this stuff? I mean if it is real, how on earth would anyone get it? does everyone know a guy who knows a guy that works in the underground secret apple society?

I just bought a 30gig, and if these images are real, I may be a bit dissapointed with my purchase.


edit^^^ good answer

[mavrick422]

has anyone noticed the slightly raised clear edges on both the nano and video in the picture where they are resting on the hi-fi? it seems like that would be hard to create in photoshop, seeing as they are so realistic. I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE TRUE!!!! also, is macshrine bs-ing us about the apple legal thing? i would think apple would tell them to keep it secret that they told them to take something off their site --> unless they want their asses burned in the ground in law suits

[rockandrule]

Never seen the video before, but definitely getting tired of all of the new pics though. We know this will be the design. We don't need a million "pictures" of it.

[~Shard~]

Never seen the video before, but definitely getting tired of all of the new pics though. We know this will be the design. We don't need a million "pictures" of it.

My thoughts exactly. Even if these truly are legitimate images, videos, etc. of the new iPod, it's getting to be a bit much. We know this is what they will look like, give or take, so let's just exercise some patience and wait for Apple to release them.

I'm all for rumors, hot tips, pics, etc., but this is starting to get a bit overdone. :cool:

[parrothead]

Interesting to note, in the picture with the nano and the video ipod on top of the hifi, Ice Age 2 is playing on the video. That movie hasn't even been released in the theaters yet, so how did this person get it on the iPod? You can tell it is not the trailer because it is 17 minutes into the movie. Food for thought.

[rockandrule]

Interesting to note, in the picture with the nano and the video ipod on top of the hifi, Ice Age 2 is playing on the video. That movie hasn't even been released in the theaters yet, so how did this person get it on the iPod? You can tell it is not the trailer because it is 17 minutes into the movie. Food for thought.
VERY good observation.

[lamar777]

and no one is there to touch it do the touch controls still appear?

Then again the reflection is pretty consistant across the nano hifi and video iPod

[muffinman]

doubt it. i really doubt it.

[davester]

Nice concepts and all, but the people that create these things have too much time on their hands and need to get a life.

[EricNau]

Interesting to note, in the picture with the nano and the video ipod on top of the hifi, Ice Age 2 is playing on the video. That movie hasn't even been released in the theaters yet, so how did this person get it on the iPod? You can tell it is not the trailer because it is 17 minutes into the movie. Food for thought.
It's on this trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/ice_age_2/large.html).

[Kingsly]

Many apologies for the downtime, Apple Legal sent a DCMA to our hosts who then suspended us for most of the morning. We have now removed all mention of the device from MacShrine.
It is common practice for Apple to shut down rumor sites or did those pictures get a little too close for comfort???
Due to this recent tidbit of info I think the images are real, or at least a very close representation of the real thing.

[ahuman7341]

It's on this trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/ice_age_2/large.html).

but int the picture the little time bar is at 17 minutes while none of the trailers are 17 minutes long, i thought it could possibley be at 17 seconds but at 17 seconds in all of the trailers the little guy is not underwater. I wonder if someone could find a leaked copy of that movie.

if you compare the imgae where the iPod AV is on the iPod HI-Fi with the nano and the controls are being shown there is no bar on the top but in the video there is a bar when the controls are being touched

[NicP]

So how would you use something like this, i mean to change the volume or scroll you slide your finger on the click wheel, and to press the next button or whatever you push it down as a button. The touchscreen isnt going to know (at least not reliably) when your are resting your finger or if you are pressing down to change the track.

[maveness]

...no one's taken notice of the fact that this "photo" is taken on top of an iPod HiFi.

I'd be very interested to know if there's any time-stamp data in these photographs.

[ahuman7341]

I just looked and there is no time stamp on any of the photos.

i was also reding the comments the the video and they mentioned another video which is alot more convicing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zjcQvBpNec


Edit: wow im a moron and didnt even read the caption to that video where it says its not real, but it still looks it.

[texasmafia]

That first video looks good but I really would like to see a video showing the menus and other functions, not just a video playing. If someone really has one they could show it off a bit and not just show a couple of seconds of a movie.

[revjay]

but int the picture the little time bar is at 17 minutes while none of the trailers are 17 minutes long, i thought it could possibley be at 17 seconds but at 17 seconds in all of the trailers the little guy is not underwater. I wonder if someone could find a leaked copy of that movie.

if you compare the imgae where the iPod AV is on the iPod HI-Fi with the nano and the controls are being shown there is no bar on the top but in the video there is a bar when the controls are being touched

Adobe is their friend...

[nagromme]

My guesses:

* Original photo with unknown Chinese writing was real.

* All photos/videos since then are fake.

* MacShrine is real.

* Cease and desist letters were fake.

* This post is real.

[texasmafia]

My guesses:

* Original photo with unknown Chinese writing was real.

* All photos/videos since then are fake.

* MacShrine is real.

* Cease and desist letters were fake.

* This post is real.


You could be right. What are your reasons for saying this?

[nagromme]

So how would you use something like this, i mean to change the volume or scroll you slide your finger on the click wheel, and to press the next button or whatever you push it down as a button. The touchscreen isnt going to know (at least not reliably) when your are resting your finger or if you are pressing down to change the track.
It could work like a tappable trackpad: a trackpad can tell a long rest from a quick tap, and can tell a moving drag from both.


You could be right. What are your reasons for saying this?
Far more guesswork than any real evidence. Just a feeling :) I win a cupcake if I am right on all points!

(Note: THIS post IS a fake.)

[Beanbox]

I believe that the photo with the iPod acutally plugged into the dock of the HiFi is fake because the length of the song would be incorrect(I think). According to ITMS FACK is 3:25 long but the FACK playing on the iPod would be 4:25 long.

[MacQuest]

Don't forget this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1H_d_7CVPc) video.

Did you see Big Foot walking along the bottom of the stairs?!!!

Or was that SJ? Maybe it was SJ playing with it on the stairs and bill gates walked by to steal the idea and poorly implement it.

Whatever...

My gawd... Apple has all the answers!

Regardless, I want this thing BAD!

[mayo2ca]

Heh. There are several problems with the iPod on the HiFi image. The reflection is missing one edge of the screen, almost no camera shake on the case, quite sharp camera shake on the screen, and terrible camera shake on the black ipod, noise on black ipod is terrible, the rest of the image is very high res, the reflection on the hifi is a real click wheel, etc, etc, etc ... and they're not the only ones, that's just the most obvious ones. And the image is on the brand new HiFi?? how many people have that yet?

now, i'm not sure how exactly apple legal works, but sending a letter on Sunday (of all days) at 5pm PST (or around there, iirc) to a single site, while there is lots of other mirrors and lots of "high profile" rumor sites that have the same images? that doesn't smell right to me...

oh, and the image of ipod with the chinese writing on the connector was a fake too. there is a video out there on how it was created, and it also had way way more errors on the image than the hifi one.

think what you will, but i wouldn't hold my breath

[jeriqo]

looks cool.. but wouldn't the screen get scuffed, rubbed out, or scratched where the virtual wheel is???

What kind of fingers du you have ?
It's meant for humans not reptiles.

[zanevlc]

Steves (possible) reply to all this iPod Video stuff.. :D


http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/index.html


A MUST READ!!!!!

[MrCrowbar]

DidnÄt read the post yet, but I am surpised about the gallery. I made this dull mockup with the gorillaz album and the grey touchwheel below. Even tho it was a bad fake and everyone in this forum said it was a bad photoshop work, this picture has been used in 4 other mockups I've seen so far, this one is one of them: http://guides.macrumors.com/images/thumb/8/8a/Handyagain.jpg/120px-Handyagain.jpg

So to say, don't trust too much what you see. They all agree on the design because it's just so easy to make: take a 5g iPod, stretch the screen, done.

[Bengt77]

Steves (possible) reply to all this iPod Video stuff.. :D


http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/index.html


A MUST READ!!!!!
That was a brilliant comic today! Indeed, it's very true; far too many people are far too obsesed with anything-Apple these days...

[TMA]

Regarding the MacGuides gallery, http://guides.macrumors.com/Gallery_of_Video_iPod_Mockups where would we stand if Apple asked us to remove this? As freely editable collection of free well distrubuted images, rather than a report or publication, wouldn't they have less of a leg to stand on?

[nataku]

wow if they got Apple's attention (Cease and Desist order!), then the iPods must be real. I just find it weird though. How about smudging and fingerprint problems? Why Apple?!?! WHY?!:D

[llapgoch]

As a current iPod video owner, there is one problem I have with these current images. I like to watch videos on my iPod whilst it is in it's dock, sometimes charging.

In these images there seems to be no capability to place the iPod in a dock to allow landscape video viewing. This limits either to viewing the video in portrait - which for a widescreen iPod seems quite pointless - or always having it handheld...

I'm probably missing something blatantly obvious but i'd be interested to hear other perspectives on this.

[zap2]

well i'm not buying one

unless it comes out soon.. or now

or hell i'm buying one when ever it comes out!

[CoMpX]

I say that I'm not gona buy one because I already have a perfectly good iPod, but well all know I'm gona wind up buying one. There's no point in resisting.

[sishaw]

has anyone noticed the slightly raised clear edges on both the nano and video in the picture where they are resting on the hi-fi? it seems like that would be hard to create in photoshop, seeing as they are so realistic.

Yes, I'm sure the hoaxer started with a picture of a real iPod, probably a 5G, and modified it by adding a "screen." Anyone could do it. Please, all, don't be so gullible.

[m.sherling]

I strongly doubt the authenticity of this letter:

1) The sentence "I swear, unter penalty of ..." does not make a lot of sense when used by the copyright owner or a lawyer. First of all, if you are the copyright owner, why should you swear that you are authorized to act "on behalf of" him? Second problem, if you're a lawyer acting on behalf of your client, you usually state that in the very first sentence which will read like this: "Dear XY: We represent Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") with respect to its intellectual property matters." The sentence in question can be found, however, via google. It is a part of a standard template used to report copyright issues to website owners.

2) The sentence "Apple has a good-faith belief that the use of the Material is not authorized by Apple, its agent, or the law." is absolutely ridiculous. So Apple is in good faith (bona fide) that it has not authorized the use of the material? Really, if this was Apple, they'd simply state that they haven't. And if it were a lawyer he'd write that his client hasn't. Once more, this is part of said template ... Additionally, why is the "agent" included? Doesn't Apple know what its "agents" allow people to do? (Makes sense only if you were to report a copyright issue to website owners.)

3) So the signee writes about "unauthorized shots purporting to be of unreleased Apple hardware, iPod AV ("the Material")" and "Apple's exclusive copyrights in the iPod AV hardware". Whoups. So he explicitly states the name of the mysterious yet-to-be-released product. Damnit. Is he gonna have to face a Cease-And-Desist-letter from Apple now?

4) "The undersigned, authorized to act on Apple's behalf, states that (...) Apple is believed to be the exclusive owner of the copyrights". Gosh! So Apple is *believed* to be the copyright owner? So we write this merry little letter and simply assume Apple could be the copyright owner? Honestly, would Apple write such ********? Would Apple's lawyers do?

5) And go on reading the next paragraph of this letter. So first of all, the signee states that he believes Apple to be the copyright owner. But on second thought, that's obviously not enough, so he changes his mind - and goes on swearing that all the information written above is accurate. Where's the point?

(btw, I posted this to macshrine.com but my "comment is still awaiting moderation". I somehow doubt they're gonna publish it ;-)).

Admitted, I'm not a lawyer. But I'm a law student from Germany who's gone through his "introduction to American law"-classes. So I've read quite a few letters written by lawyers and they were VERY different from this one ...

[pjohnson810]

interesting link at this website ... a video of the 6G video ipod in use ... notice the touchscreen controls ... but his gestures do not seem to have any effect on the playback ... just the top menu bar being activated ...

link to the article: http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/entertainment/mp3_player/new_widescreen_ipod_in_action

link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1H_d_7CVPc&eurl=

------------------------------------------
Power Book G4 - 15" - 1.67 GHz
30 GB 5th Gen ipod

[m.sherling]

That link appears to be number two in a series. Here's number one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zjcQvBpNec&search=ipod%20video

Take note of the comment below ...

[krimson]

this may be off, but whoever wrote that chinese, must have been 9 years old at best. the handwriting on the cardboard covering the connector is awful.

[tekmoe]

looks pretty real to me!!

[helmsc]

It's got to be a fake pic ... no elevator :p

[Whistleway]

Steves (possible) reply to all this iPod Video stuff.. :D


http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/index.html


A MUST READ!!!!!

Nice one. Thanks.,.

http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/796.gif

[sigamy]

Fake, fake, fake.

You think anyone who had one of these in their possession would play Ice Age 2 on it? The DRM probably prevents any non-Pixar/Disney animation from even playing on the device!

As for the video, nice compositing job.

[CoMpX]

this may be off, but whoever wrote that chinese, must have been 9 years old at best. the handwriting on the cardboard covering the connector is awful.

Ahhhhh, here we go again! The particular image you are talking about has been discussed IN LENGTH in another thread.

[revfife]

Easy way to see that the video is a fake. Click on the link to make it larger then pause it right before the end. Whoever did the video forgot to put the forward mark back on the "virtual wheel" after his thumb scrolled back around. Total Fake

[bretm]

Nice concepts and all, but the people that create these things have too much time on their hands and need to get a life.

I'd propose that people that read and post in these forums have too much time on their hands. We could be using it more wisely, like producing good ipod mockups!

[CoMpX]

Easy way to see that the video is a fake. Click on the link to make it larger then pause it right before the end. Whoever did the video forgot to put the forward mark back on the "virtual wheel" after his thumb scrolled back around. Total Fake

Yea I see that, good point. There is also just something about it that is just a red flag. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something's not right. Also, I see no reflection on the screen at all.

FAKE

[rog]

The new pics and video show that this is basically the same thing from a couple weeks ago before the phony video claimed it was a fake. it's real!

[me_94501]

I think I'm going to sit on the fence with this issue for now and answer the question "Is this the next-gen iPod?" with a resounding "maybe."

[freeny]

ooh, I have never seen that. It could still be fake... the background does not seem like an environment one would be in but it is certainly cool.
As a video compositor by trade I can assure you this video is fake.

three things to watch for proof-
1-Watch the left thumb and its relation to the video, the black border between the thumb and video varies in size through out the clip while the thumb never moves. bad image stabilization.

2-The right thumb while moving about over the video has an uncharacteristicly fuzzy edge while over the video and a more hard edge over the black border. This is not an easy rotoscope in most peoples skills and proves to be so in this clip. Especially when its going to be raked over with a fine tooth comb.

3-The scrollwheel graphic on the video is not consistant with the perspective of the ipod. too wide or too short.

[freeny]

That link appears to be number two in a series. Here's number one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zjcQvBpNec&search=ipod%20video

Take note of the comment below ...
This is also fake.

Watch closely the the position of the video on the pod, it moves. you can also watch the thickness of the border around the video. I never stays the same size. Again, bad image stabilization.

[peharri]

I'll buy it as long as it has Radeon graphics (rather than Intel Integrated), and a $350 leather case is available...

On the subject of "legal threats": Heh. (https://slashdot.org/~squiggleslash/journal/130083)

[lozoya]

Just see the image in photoshop, observe the colors in channel mode and you can note the correction of the line around. sorry for my english, i hop you understand what i want to say.

[cobraverde]

anyone pointed this out: the pic with the nano and the possible fake side by side, the picture quality/brightness between their screens is totally different

[scdreger]

somehow missed post above..

[BoyBach]

Steves (possible) reply to all this iPod Video stuff.. :D


http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/index.html


A MUST READ!!!!!


APPLE ARE STARTING A DATING SERVICE :eek: :confused: :eek:

:p

[revfife]

Yeah its going to be called iDate and it will feature iRealLife! :D

[geobrian]

Doesn't it seem like the battery life on one of these puppies would be pretty lousy?

Still thinking its a fake, but hopefully not!

[Tupring]

So how would you use something like this, i mean to change the volume or scroll you slide your finger on the click wheel, and to press the next button or whatever you push it down as a button. The touchscreen isnt going to know (at least not reliably) when your are resting your finger or if you are pressing down to change the track.It will if Apple makes it.

[ClarkeB]

Apple needs to come out with one of these now that they have all these fake pics floating around on the Internet

[BoyBach]

The title says it all :p

http://www.macshrine.com/2006/03/07/screw-the-dmca-new-picture/

And here's the pic:

http://www.macshrine.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/4.jpg

[JGowan]

I would so love this to be real... my last iPod was a 3G 40GB and I ended up giving it to my father with a ton of music and an inMotion by Altec Lansing.

Then my friend recently got a 5G 30GB and thinks he is the total s***. I would so love to trump his A.

[ipod0324]

I dont know if this has been mentioned, but on the back of the iPod AV notice how the 40GB is much whited than the ipod AV. That picture looks photoshopped to me. Hopefully the others are real.
Yes, I'm sure the hoaxer started with a picture of a real iPod, probably a 5G, and modified it by adding a "screen." Anyone could do it. Please, all, don't be so gullible.

[electric]

fake

[AndrewGluck]

These are fakes, just look at the thickness, that space needs to include a hard drive and the touch screen and a battery... it seems fishy... but hey, PLZ proove me wrong :P

[The Mighty 38]

sorry if someones has pointed this out already, but i am too tired to trawl the posts...

The images of the "iPod AV" are fake, without a doubt. look at the image of the back of the ipod... the faker has had to move the iPod text under the apple logo to fit the "AV" bit in and they have cloned out the original logo and replaced it with a new one (wrong thickness of typeface too) and added some noise, they have even removed the apple logo itself so to easily make it all look the same colour. Further more compare the colour of this with the text at the bottom of the Ipod - this is engraved using the same process as the main logo historically however here there is an obvious colour difference.

amateur.

[bg002h]

Don't know if anyone has commented on this yet, but, the length of the eminem song playing in image 3 is 3:25, not the 4:25 implied by the image. (2:16+2:09=4:25, look up the song on itunes )

Also, the length of the completed/remaining bars is inappropriate.

I don't see why someone would need to fake that part of the image though...

[japanime]

Steves (possible) reply to all this iPod Video stuff.. :D


http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/index.html


A MUST READ!!!!!


Cute. But the classic mid-1980s Saturday Night Live skit upon which that comic is based was even funnier.

You can watch the original skit here:

http://www.devilducky.com/media/40964/

[revfife]

The easiest way to tell its a fake, Jobs would never plaster AV like that on the back of the iPod. It is not ascetically becoming. They never have plastered Photo or Video on the back, why start with AV? That's just stupid :cool:

[freeny]

These are fakes, just look at the thickness, that space needs to include a hard drive and the touch screen and a battery... it seems fishy... but hey, PLZ proove me wrong :P
This ipod would no longer need the space for the mechanical parts of the scroll wheel. This would free up a nice chunk of space for more hd space or battery space.

[EricNau]

this may be off, but whoever wrote that chinese, must have been 9 years old at best. the handwriting on the cardboard covering the connector is awful.
I wonder what it says. Does anybody know?

[BigMacIain]

Does anyone know about the models though?

They're being kept in reserve for the Dating Service, iDateTM

[freeny]

but int the picture the little time bar is at 17 minutes while none of the trailers are 17 minutes long, i thought it could possibley be at 17 seconds but at 17 seconds in all of the trailers the little guy is not underwater. I wonder if someone could find a leaked copy of that movie.

if you compare the imgae where the iPod AV is on the iPod HI-Fi with the nano and the controls are being shown there is no bar on the top but in the video there is a bar when the controls are being touched

I must say this all seems a bit narrowminded. Whoever has access to this new iPod will most definately have access to Apples/iTunes stock of coming attractions clips. This could be a test clip edited for playback on the iPod. They could make the clip however long they wanted. There could be 16 seconds, 16 minutes, or 16 hours of other crap not related to Ice Age before this frame for all we know.

Dont think the video playing on the screen has any significance real or fake.:confused:

[Sogo]

There is a new video ipod video, video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zjcQvBpNec&feature=Views&page=1&t=t&f=b), going around.

[rockandrule]

There is a new video ipod video, video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zjcQvBpNec&feature=Views&page=1&t=t&f=b), going around.
Please read through the forum before posting a link that has already been previously posted.

[brepublican]

I would love these things to be real as much as the next person. But lets face it, these are fake. Very good photoshop work I'll give 'em that, but these have fake written all over them.

Just dont wanna get my hopes up... I almost jumped off a cliff 2 weeks ago when all we got was that "boombox" and the intel mac mini. With Integrated Graphics :mad:

[Mars]

Sorry if I repeat something already written. But couldn't the new video enhanced "iPod", be Apple's answer to the Origami project? I don't, in this case, meen the 5G iPod form factor, but really a full sized mini PC/MacPod...
With the transition to Intel, due largely to the power consumption of the G5 processor, and Apple's own statement about Intel's future roadmap of mobile processors more suitable to Apple's own, that they would really go for a Tablet Mac, or mini MacPod?
This would be heaven!

[Mars]

And I must say, sadly, that all these photos of the presumably next generation iPods to be fake. Although the final product most likely will look very similar.

[freeny]

Sorry if I repeat something already written. But couldn't the new video enhanced "iPod", be Apple's answer to the Origami project? I don't, in this case, meen the 5G iPod form factor, but really a full sized mini PC/MacPod...
With the transition to Intel, due largely to the power consumption of the G5 processor, and Apple's own statement about Intel's future roadmap of mobile processors more suitable to Apple's own, that they would really go for a Tablet Mac, or mini MacPod?
This would be heaven!
Its actually the other way around. The Origami is Microsoft's answer to the new iPod. The Origami wont be out for months from what I hear. But this new Pod is being expect in the next few weeks.

Microsoft is feeling the water using Apples "And one more thing" approach by keeping the Origami in a shroud of mystery. Unfortunately they are having a hard time keeping the secret.

[supermacdesign]

If it is not it's the best photoshop I have ever seen. My reasoning is the reflections. If you look closely there is a reflection that all the items in the photo share. It cuts across the two items diagonally. I circled them in this image (you will have to go back and find the full version to see what I am talking about but it is there.

I could be a fool but this looks so very legit.

The only part that bugs me is the Ice Age 2 "17 minute" thing.

[ibn]

there are two videos on youtube.com of the "ipod av." one with the ice age clip and don't know what the other is. but they SEEM real. heh... who knows?

[revfife]

Yeah this one (http://youtube.com/watch?v=T_TWAhgJkIc) is much better. I am hoping Apple releases something like it. :rolleyes:

[kugino]

I must say this all seems a bit narrowminded. Whoever has access to this new iPod will most definately have access to Apples/iTunes stock of coming attractions clips. This could be a test clip edited for playback on the iPod. They could make the clip however long they wanted. There could be 16 seconds, 16 minutes, or 16 hours of other crap not related to Ice Age before this frame for all we know.

Dont think the video playing on the screen has any significance real or fake.:confused:
keep making yourself believe...that's the apple spirit! ;)

[freeny]

keep making yourself believe...that's the apple spirit! ;)
Im not going either way. Just saying that the image on the screen has no significance real or fake.

[TMA]

I wonder what it says. Does anybody know?

I've checked with my dashboard widget, apparently it means "Resistance is futile."

[stefan15]

Re; new mockup pics..
If that is a fake, it is done unbelievably well! It's completely seamless! I can't distinguish any photoshopped edges. Add to the fact that the resolution is massive. And that "iPod AV" on the back, that can't be fake (but possibly printed ie: faked but not digitally)

[AndrewGluck]

This ipod would no longer need the space for the mechanical parts of the scroll wheel. This would free up a nice chunk of space for more hd space or battery space.

Well, that is true, but another issue is the button combos... how would you enter disk or diagnostic mode now? i mean, i highly doubt there will be any multitouch capabilities on this iPod(and if there are, i will lay down any amount of money to get it:p ) and also.... how do you turn this thing on? lol if the unit is off, that means its not getting any info from the screen:p...last but not least touch screens are bloody fragile, with the amount of times i drop my iPod nano(stupid lanyard) this thing would by in a million little peices(those where MY memoires!!:p:p:p)

[Peace]

Whether it's fake or not I know not but that EMC No. on the back means it complies with electromagnetic wireless standards..

http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/

[rockandrule]

Whether it's fake or not I know not but that EMC No. on the back means it complies with electromagnetic wireless standards..

http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/
I'm not exactly familiar with EMC Numbers. Does each iPod come with a unique EMC Number or does each number mean a specific thing? (I.E. my iPod 5G has an EMC No. of 2065.

[BoyBach]

According to AppleInsider, Apple has notified resellers that there could be changes to the top end iPod in the next 60 days. Video iPod anyone??

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1602

[freeny]

According to AppleInsider, Apple has notified resellers that there could be changes to the top end iPod in the next 60 days. Video iPod anyone??

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1602
Already posted.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=187414

[MacQuest]

The only part that bugs me is the Ice Age 2 "17 minute" thing.
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=42718&d=1141836923

I know that the 17 second/minute marker issue has been addressed a lot in this thread, but is worth noting that the Ice Age 2 TV commercial that I only started seeing this past week shows this exact scene at, guess how many seconds into the 45 second[ish] commercial... 17 seconds.