New Video iPod on Apple's 30th Anniversary (April 1)? [Archive]

MacRumors

Mar 9, 2006, 05:39 PM

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MacObserver points (http://www.macobserver.com/article/2006/03/09.8.shtml) to a PortalPlayer analyst report issued by Craig Berger and James Schneider of Wedbush Morgan.

The report predicts a decline in shipments in the 2nd Quarter for PortalPlayer -- producer of key components in the Apple iPod. However, looking forward, the analysts describe a sharp ramp up in demand based on "independent confirmation from a reliable industry source" that Apple is likely to launch the rumored Video iPod "as early as its 30th anniversary on April 1".

The upcoming device is described as sporting a larger size LCD, bigger battery, higher storage and a $400-$500 price point. The new iPod would represent a higher end video-targetted unit, while Apple is expected to retain the current 5G iPod (http://guides.macrumors.com/iPod_(5G)) for customers interested primarily in music playback.

Rumors of a "true" video iPod have been circulating for months. Previous analysts (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060119104515.shtml) expected an "actual" video iPod in the first half of 2006 alongside major content deals. These rumors were further corroborated (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060209095419.shtml) in February with word that a new iPod with a touch-screen instead of the current click wheel. The most recent rumors describe a 4 inch screen touchscreen iPod (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060302125931.shtml) to be launched alongside an iTunes Movie service.

Rumors of a touchscreen iPod has spawned many mockups and images (http://guides.macrumors.com/Gallery_of_Video_iPod_Mockups) claiming to be the rumored Video iPod. None of the images are believed to be real at this time.

Of note, April 1, 2006 falls on a Saturday -- which would be an unusual day for Apple to release a product.

iGary

Mar 9, 2006, 05:41 PM

Oh vey.

On a Saturday?

No way.

javabear90

Mar 9, 2006, 05:41 PM

Sounds accurate to me. Do you think Apple will market it as a 30th anniversary event?

amateurmacfreak

Mar 9, 2006, 05:45 PM

Hm... I think a "real" video iPod is quite a possibility. But a Saturday... no.
I personally think Apple would make the date for the 4th, no?
Tuesday!! :p ;)

sunfast

Mar 9, 2006, 05:45 PM

The video iPod is clearly a question of when not if. 30th anniversary seems as good a time as any, especially for a product that has become so synonymous with Apple over the last few years.

alienex

Mar 9, 2006, 05:45 PM

HERE WE GO AGAIN. Not sure if this is a repost but look at this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1H_d_7CVPc&feature=Views&page=1&t=w&f=b

ibook30

Mar 9, 2006, 05:45 PM

Video iPod and additional content on iTunes sounds like a winner - perhaps now is the time to get some stock....

schatten

Mar 9, 2006, 05:47 PM

Wow. What a strange coincidence; I was planning to buy every registered MacRumors use a new iPod on April 1st.

(And if you believe that, I'll tell you another!)

Xephian

Mar 9, 2006, 05:48 PM

Bleh, I just bought a Video iPod 30GB.

johnbro23

Mar 9, 2006, 05:48 PM

HERE WE GO AGAIN. Not sure if this is a repost but look at this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1H_d_7CVPc&feature=Views&page=1&t=w&f=b
I'd say that's the most believable Video iPod yet. I'm curious to see what the video experts have to say...

Daveway

Mar 9, 2006, 05:50 PM

Come Join us as we Celebrate Apple's 30th Birthday!
We have some great presents for you.
:cool:

ksz

Mar 9, 2006, 05:50 PM

Well, if photos of Origami turned out to be true, then ...

w_parietti22

Mar 9, 2006, 05:50 PM

awww... was hoping for a 30th Anniversary Mac.... :(

Oh well, maybe Steve will do the iPod and then say the magic words...
"One more thing..."

asherman13

Mar 9, 2006, 05:53 PM

awww... was hoping for a 30th Anniversary Mac.... :(

Oh well, maybe Steve will do the iPod and then say the magic words...
"One more thing..."

Nobody said you can't get too things at one announcement.:)

April 1st, eh? I guess I was 17 minutes too early to make a birthday present out of these goodies (if they come) for myself. Oh well...there's always next year.

virus1

Mar 9, 2006, 05:53 PM

I'd say that's the most believable Video iPod yet. I'm curious to see what the video experts have to say...
looks like bull to me.

WeBleed4Real

Mar 9, 2006, 05:53 PM

I smell an April Fool's joke...

virus1

Mar 9, 2006, 05:56 PM

I smell an April Fool's joke...
ya... i can see apple having some fun with us..

FreeState

Mar 9, 2006, 05:56 PM

HERE WE GO AGAIN. Not sure if this is a repost but look at this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1H_d_7CVPc&feature=Views&page=1&t=w&f=b

This ones been online at least a week. Its a fake - notice his thumb goes counter clockwise and the video does not - nor is there any slider showing where your volume is or where you are in the movie.

thejadedmonkey

Mar 9, 2006, 05:57 PM

...Someone actually gets paid to think of this stuff?

revfife

Mar 9, 2006, 05:57 PM

Wow another thread posting the same videos already reviewed 6 threads back. Keep up people :)

pdpfilms

Mar 9, 2006, 05:58 PM

Absolutely not going to happen. Pff.

amateurmacfreak

Mar 9, 2006, 05:59 PM

awww... was hoping for a 30th Anniversary Mac.... :(

I personally think we will see a 30th Anniversary Mac. Otherwise I will be a sad little person. :( :p

EricNau

Mar 9, 2006, 06:06 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:

EGT

Mar 9, 2006, 06:10 PM

I'd like to see it happen but still skeptical. iPod video or not, why not April 1st? So what it's a Saturday?

Absolutely not going to happen. Pff.

How do you know?

arn

Mar 9, 2006, 06:11 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:

I refer you to the original ipod thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500)

Where oh where does a $400 (!!!!!) player fit into the scheme of things? Seems like Steve just wanted the coolest toy, regardless of its practicality.

I like [the iPod] and if it were $200-$299 I'd buy one. But at $400 you are getting into the price range of a new computer.

Of course the iPod is cool, neat, whatever. You wouldn't expect anything less from Apple. But I agree with most on this forum. $400 is simply too much in the present economic climate. One other thing. I'd like to know what their margins for the iPod are...

toughboy

Mar 9, 2006, 06:12 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:

I paid that amount (actually a little higher, because I live in Turkey and we pay in European currency) for my 2nd generation iPod..

that was revolutinary at that point.. If something like described will launch, it surely will be as revolutionary..

a computer is something else, a portable revolutionary device is something else.. I dont care how much 'dell' I can buy, none of them makes a Mac anyway ;)

edit: I was beaten to the God of this forum guys if it'll make you happy afterall :D

nagromme

Mar 9, 2006, 06:12 PM

The irony:

The April 1 video iPod is likely to be real.

Today's March 9 gaming iPod is an April Fool's joke :o

Boingy

Mar 9, 2006, 06:13 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:

Yea but you can't put a Dell in your pocket and take it with you. You can't watch your Dell in class without the professor noticing. The comparison between a Dell desktop and an iPod is fully silly that's like comparing oranges and pears (but not Apples and Apples).

~V

edit: Sorry Andy, I got beaten by toughboy if it makes you feel better.

.Andy

Mar 9, 2006, 06:14 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:
Could you pop that computer from dell in your pocket?

edit: beaten by Boingy badly :(.

Thataboy

Mar 9, 2006, 06:19 PM

I really wish that Apple would just make this "true video iPod" simply their UMPC. I REALLY want an Apple UMPC.

Boingy

Mar 9, 2006, 06:22 PM

I really wish that Apple would just make this "true video iPod" simply their UMPC. I REALLY want an Apple UMPC.

For up to $999? That's more than most of us have to spend on a fun new toy. $500 is pusing it, and $400 is within range for most gadget loving geeks and college students.

~V

Phat_Pat

Mar 9, 2006, 06:33 PM

i hope its not an iPod for the 30 aniversity

apple was a computer company 30 years ago... not the music juggernaut that it is today

they need to release a unique and rare computer

nagromme

Mar 9, 2006, 06:42 PM

This could be just another really good fake, but for what it's worth:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2178811&postcount=94
:)

i hope its not an iPod for the 30 aniversity

apple was a computer company 30 years ago... not the music juggernaut that it is today

they need to release a unique and rare computer
Apple probably didn't plan ANY product specifically for the 30th anniversary. They did that for the TAM, but it wasn't a great success. (Very cool though!)

Instead, if some products are ready around that time ANYWAY, they might get roped into an anniversary event. So anything from an iPod to a Mac to iPod Hats might get mentioned.

commonpeople

Mar 9, 2006, 06:44 PM

"None of the images are believed to be real at this time"

Shouldn't that be "None of the images is believed to be real at this time"?

I always get confused- but I think 'none' is singular, though I can never stop myself from saying 'none are' as opposed to 'none is'.

(Don't shoot me down if I'm wrong!)

photomaniac

Mar 9, 2006, 06:46 PM

You know what else would be cool.... that it doubled as a GPS unit for your car. The form factor would be perfect!

Thataboy

Mar 9, 2006, 06:47 PM

For up to $999? That's more than most of us have to spend on a fun new toy. $500 is pusing it, and $400 is within range for most gadget loving geeks and college students.

~V

That's the high-end of the projected cost for a UMPC. Hopefully, Apple could shave a couple hundred off of that. But $699-$799 -- I would definitely go for that.

Such a device would be great for someone with a desktop computer, who wants something basic and mobile, but doesn't need a full laptop.

The idea that it would ever be $400 is kind of ludicrous :) I don't even think a plain old video iPod could make it that low in the beginning.

Multimedia

Mar 9, 2006, 06:49 PM

I think a lot more will be revealed at the NAB Press Event Sunday April 23 than on Saturday April 1st.

Boingy

Mar 9, 2006, 06:56 PM

I think a lot more will be revealed at the NAB Press Event Sunday April 23 than on Saturday April 1st.

Does that mean we get an iTimeMachine too? :p

~V

kretzy

Mar 9, 2006, 07:04 PM

I'm sick of Video iPod threads.

Peace

Mar 9, 2006, 07:06 PM

This ones been online at least a week. Its a fake - notice his thumb goes counter clockwise and the video does not - nor is there any slider showing where your volume is or where you are in the movie.

Not that I think it's real but his thumb movement could very well be demonstrating the touchscreen volume control..

ITASOR

Mar 9, 2006, 07:11 PM

To me, this is worthless, because I can't imagine watching video on something like that while I'm doing something else, which is when I would generally listen to music. :(

I was hoping for a wifi enabled device, something with bluetooth, or something with additional coolness, than just a bigger screen iPod.

Cubert

Mar 9, 2006, 07:16 PM

Mechcozmo

Mar 9, 2006, 07:18 PM

treblah

Mar 9, 2006, 07:22 PM

I'm sick of Video iPod threads.

How quickly we forget 'Powerbook G5 next Tuesday!!!' ;)

istonedu321

Mar 9, 2006, 07:31 PM

i keep hearing all this talk about ipod video, but these would also have music capabilities right?might be a stupid question but i wasnt quite sure from what people have been saying

berkleeboy210

Mar 9, 2006, 07:31 PM

"Of note, April 1, 2006 falls on a Saturday -- which would be an unusual day for Apple to release a product."

Maybe Friday, March 31st? Or sometime that week? Which is only 2 and 1/2 weeks away! WooHoo!!!

I'm guessing it'll either be the last Tuesday in March or the first Tuesday in April.

Which I believe would make that March 28th (odd how febs. event was also on the 28th) or April 4th.

my 2 cents.

bit-101

Mar 9, 2006, 07:33 PM

"Is" is singular, I believe. "Are" is plural, I think. Thus, images being plural, the word 'are' fits.

The subject is "None" and the verb correctly matches the number of the subject. It is plural. None are, all are, few are, most are, etc.
I hate it when people criticize spelling and grammar in posts. But when they incorrectly criticize correct grammar, I have to say something. :)

Back on topic, I'm crossing my fingers for April 1. I gave my iPod photo to my wife, anticipating something new would be out soon. I'll pay $400 for it. $500 is getting a bit steep. I'm hoping the cheaper one has at least 30 gigs.

TMA

Mar 9, 2006, 07:34 PM

...Apple is likely to launch the rumored Video iPod "as early as its 30th anniversary on April 1".

Maybe those Chinese characters on the original spy-shot are a date? If only we could decipher them!

;)
(I still find it funny :P )

tny

Mar 9, 2006, 07:35 PM

"Is" is singular, I believe. "Are" is plural, I think. Thus, images being plural, the word 'are' fits.

The subject is "none," not "images." "Images" is the object of the preposition. That being said, while in American "none" is always singular, in British "none" can be a collective noun, so that in British "none are" is perfectly acceptable grammatically, while in American "none is" is the preferred usage.

kretzy

Mar 9, 2006, 07:39 PM

How quickly we forget 'Powerbook G5 next Tuesday!!!' ;)

They were always more entertaining though and usually based on even less evidence. :D

BornAgainMac

Mar 9, 2006, 07:40 PM

I expect lots of fake rumors for that day. At least one rumor of a major buyout like every year. Be lucky if you get a 10% discount at your local Apple store on select items (iPod leather case, Hi-Fi, Mini, and some existing but great PPC products)

commonpeople

Mar 9, 2006, 07:40 PM

The subject is "None" and the verb correctly matches the number of the subject. It is plural. None are, all are, few are, most are, etc.
I hate it when people criticize spelling and grammar in posts. But when they incorrectly criticize correct grammar, I have to say something. :)

Back on topic, I'm crossing my fingers for April 1. I gave my iPod photo to my wife, anticipating something new would be out soon. I'll pay $400 for it. $500 is getting a bit steep. I'm hoping the cheaper one has at least 30 gigs.

Firstly, I said don't shoot me if I'm wrong. I looked it up- the subject is indeed 'none', and not 'images'. With mass-nouns, e.g. 'sheep', 'wheat' etc., you have to use the singular. With count-nouns, e.g. 'books', you can use either 'is' or 'are', but 'are' usually sounds better. I would suppose that 'images' is a 'count noun'.

(Mostly stolen from http://www.alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxnoneis.html)

iGuy

Mar 9, 2006, 07:41 PM

"Is" is singular, I believe. "Are" is plural, I think. Thus, images being plural, the word 'are' fits.

'None' is short for 'no one'. Therefore it is singular because 'one' is singular. The correct word is: is.

While we're at it, Apple Computer Inc. is also singular. 'Apple' does and Apple's employees' do. Often people incorrectly mean the collective noun 'Apple's employees' when they use the word 'Apple' and therefore incorrectly assume that it is plural. It is not.

To argure, as has been the case in the past, that colloquial usage makes it ok, is simply wrong. Just because you, or those around you, say it, doesn't make it any more grammatically correct.

Let's put this one to bed once and for all.

~iGuy

BWhaler

Mar 9, 2006, 07:43 PM

I'm in for a full screen touch screen iPod as long as Apple didn't cut any corners on quality.

Yeah, I own the 5G. But a bigger screen would be nice since all I use it for is movies.

And a 80gig drive is key...

commonpeople

Mar 9, 2006, 07:43 PM

'None' is short for 'no one'. Therefore it is singular because 'one' is singular. The correct word is: is.

While we're at it, Apple Computer Inc. is also singular. 'Apple' does and Apple's employees' do. Often people incorrectly mean the collective noun 'Apple's employees' when they use the word 'Apple' and therefore incorrectly assume that it is plural. It is not.

To argure, as has been the case in the past, that colloquial usage makes it ok, is simply wrong. Just because you, or those around you, say it, doesn't make it any more grammatically correct.

Let's put this one to bed once and for all.

~iGuy

Read http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-non2.htm for the opposing view. It looks like 'none are' is completely acceptable.

Play Ultimate

Mar 9, 2006, 07:44 PM

I refer you to the original ipod thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500)

Thank you.

I'm so glad Apple does not make product decisions based on these forums.:D

gammamonk

Mar 9, 2006, 07:50 PM

This is the worst time of year for reading a rumor's website. Anything from March thru April 2nd can't be believed. Could this be real? Is it an April fool's joke?

I never trust the "analysts" anyway. They never get anything right.

(If Apple releases a 4" video ipod of April 1st, I'll use photoshop to make it look like I'm eating my own shoe)

Play Ultimate

Mar 9, 2006, 07:50 PM

iSee

Mar 9, 2006, 07:58 PM

Ugh, this again, so soon?

Two comments, in case it really happens this time:

1. Its (large-scale) success will depend (like the iPod) on the value and depth of the content available through iTunes.

2. The fakeups are all identical! :mad: I know, it's the obvious form/screen-factor, but come on you fakesters! Push the white acrylic envelope a little. At least one of you, sell us something a little crazy. You know someone on these forums will *drool* for it! :D

(OK, I admit, I just don't want one coming out because I got a 5G for Christmas, and there is basically no way I'm going be be able to get my hands on anything new for many, many (many) months...)

Electro Funk

Mar 9, 2006, 08:00 PM

This could be just another really good fake, but for what it's worth:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2178811&postcount=94
:)

Now that is funny! Love the reflection of steve... and u gotta love the elevator shot! :D

Neb154

Mar 9, 2006, 08:03 PM

I'm American, and I have never said "none is." That sounds to me, albeit only a grammar novice, like a gross grammatical mistake.

commonpeople

Mar 9, 2006, 08:08 PM

I'm American, and I have never said "none is." That sounds to me, albeit only a grammar novice, like a gross grammatical mistake.
Firstly, I apologize for way-laying this topic! Secondly, let's start up a thread in a more appropriate place to discuss this. I want to get to the bottom of this!

commonpeople

Mar 9, 2006, 08:12 PM

Firstly, I apologize for way-laying this topic! Secondly, let's start up a thread in a more appropriate place to discuss this. I want to get to the bottom of this!

I started up a thread in community. Please go there to express your pedantry. I want to know the answer!

jouster

Mar 9, 2006, 08:12 PM

For up to $999? That's more than most of us have to spend on a fun new toy. $500 is pusing it, and $400 is within range for most gadget loving geeks and college students.

~V

If it ran Word, Excel, Mail, iCal and was WiFi and evdo enabled, it would be anything but a fun new toy, to me at least.

Electro Funk

Mar 9, 2006, 08:14 PM

I'm American, and I have never said "none is." That sounds to me, albeit only a grammar novice, like a gross grammatical mistake.

Agreed...

I can't sell you this video ipod because none is available at this time... lol :p

Stridder44

Mar 9, 2006, 08:24 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:

Yeah, ok, and I could buy alot of broccoli for $400-$500 too but why would I want to?

rockthecasbah

Mar 9, 2006, 08:27 PM

not likely in my opinion for it to be released at all, let alone a Saturday. Im still new to Apple doings, do they really release anniversary products at all? Tuesday maybe, but still taking it with a grain of salt...:)

boncellis

Mar 9, 2006, 08:27 PM

This thread is many things to many people. I love it.

I think there is something big in the works for the 30th Anniversary, and something like full length movies in the iTMS would qualify, in my opinion. As far as the possibility of the video iPod goes, I could see Apple introduce it as discrete from the current 5G iPod so that the iPod line consisted of the shuffle, nano, 5G and video iPod. If that is the case, one has to wonder if the new rumored video iPod will cannibalize sales of the 5G.

Maybe Apple will have to drop the price of the 5G to keep it around.

Electro Funk

Mar 9, 2006, 08:28 PM

Yeah, ok, and I could buy alot of broccoli for $400-$500 too but why would I want to?

Because its good for you... silly..:D

Felldownthewell

Mar 9, 2006, 08:30 PM

I don't know about the 400-500 dollar thing... Sony's PSP has a 4in screen, a UMD reader, a mem-card reader, plus controls and more for $250.

The big differences are form factor, the touchscreen, and the built in HDD, but do you guys think those things could drive the price up nearly double?

Anyway, I hope it comes out on April 1st, because its the day before my birthday!

runninmac

Mar 9, 2006, 08:34 PM

The big differences are form factor, the touchscreen, and the built in HDD, but do you guys think those things could drive the price up nearly double?

If apple wants to keep the 30gig at $299 and rack in the profit because they think it will sell I could see it. After all we did see a $600 iPod photo.

derajfast

Mar 9, 2006, 08:36 PM

Electro Funk

Mar 9, 2006, 08:41 PM

medeski martin and wood?

(in reference to your sig....)

Good Stuff that MMW... not to get off topic but you ever listen to any Leo Kottke?

Boingy

Mar 9, 2006, 08:44 PM

If it ran Word, Excel, Mail, iCal and was WiFi and evdo enabled, it would be anything but a fun new toy, to me at least.

If it ran Word and Excel it'd need a keyboard or one of those thumboards which I don't understand. I would, however, enjoy it having email access (and thereby WiFi). Also, forgive my ignorance but what's evdo?

Further, if it did run Word, Mail &c. could a business buy one like it would a blackberry? That would be sweet, that is if I worked (I'm at university) or in an industry that would get me one of those.

I don't know about the 400-500 dollar thing... Sony's PSP has a 4in screen, a UMD reader, a mem-card reader, plus controls and more for $250.

The big differences are form factor, the touchscreen, and the built in HDD, but do you guys think those things could drive the price up nearly double?

Well firstly a 60GB ATA 1.8" hard drive by itself is $150 (http://www.memorylabs.net/hi16054trc4h.html), so that's most of it. Add in metal external parts (over plastic) and the touchscreen that would make up for most of the cost difference.

~V

derajfast

Mar 9, 2006, 08:48 PM

Good Stuff that MMW... not to get off topic but you ever listen to any Leo Kottke?

but of course...clone and 66 steps....great albums of him with mike gordon.....ive seen mmw about 7 times in concert, good time

and to bring it back on topic.....steve was/is actually friends with leo kottke's nephew

6 degrees of separation (except less....)

Electro Funk

Mar 9, 2006, 08:51 PM

but of course...clone and 66 steps....great albums of him with mike gordon.....ive seen mmw about 7 times in concert, good time

and to bring it back on topic.....steve was/is actually friends with leo kottke's nephew

6 degrees of separation (except less....)

give some of leo's older stuff a listen as well... (if u havent already)

some amazing music ;)

derajfast

Mar 9, 2006, 08:55 PM

give some of leo's older stuff a listen as well... (if u havent already)

some amazing music ;)

any albums i should snag off itunes?

steve jobs went to india with leo's nephew when he was liek 20

AidenShaw

Mar 9, 2006, 08:55 PM

Your damaging my calm. :)
You're sig has a typo.

nagromme

Mar 9, 2006, 08:56 PM

It is plural. None are, all are, few are, most are, etc.
I hate it when people criticize spelling and grammar in posts. But when they incorrectly criticize correct grammar, I have to say something. :)
I think BOTH "is" and "are" can be correct with "none"... And isn't "none" derived from "not one?" So "not one are" doesn't work, but "not one is" does :)

Sorry to drag out the O/T.

Actually, it's more video iPod tomfoolery. I'm not sorry :)

blilly

Mar 9, 2006, 08:59 PM

This could be just another really good fake, but for what it's worth:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2178811&postcount=94
:)

That is one of the funniest things I've seen in weeks. Milk, nose, etc.

gmanrique

Mar 9, 2006, 09:01 PM

:D

About the grammar discussion going on here, to whomever is answering to it, you all ain't right.
:D

Yeah, ok, and I could buy alot of broccoli for $400-$500 too but why would I want to?

mackeeper

Mar 9, 2006, 09:09 PM

Steve Jobs: Most video players go for about $800 $900 and more. We're pricing the iPod AV at $499.

....

Steve Jobs: APRIL FOOLS! $299, and it ships...today.
Jobs: So we have the iPod AV and the intel iBook. But there's one more thing...

The iCar.

Electro Funk

Mar 9, 2006, 09:10 PM

any albums i should snag off itunes?

Try and Stop Me is good...

so is My Fathers Face...

Oooh... and John Fahey, Peter Lang & Leo Kottke is very good as well...

w_parietti22

Mar 9, 2006, 09:13 PM

Plecky

Mar 9, 2006, 09:13 PM

What would entitle a 30th Anniversary Mac rather then the name? I'd be suprised if we get new iMac's, seems to soon... As for the mobile line, I believe in the MacBook (iBook replacements) but don't know if they'd make their 30th Anniversary Machine a portable, let alone one that's weaker then the MacBook that just started shipping a couple week's ago. As for 17" MBP and Mac Pro's (PowerMac replacements) don't see those happening until merom/conroe start rolling out. Maybe woodcrest if they put those in the Xserves (MacServes?) and Mac Pro's. And now that the mini's were just updated what would be the 30th Anniversary Mac? A "special" edition iMac? Special Edition Headless Mac (simply called 'Mac') and being as powerful as a iMac but in a form factor just a bit larger then the Mac Mini, comes with a keyboard/mouse but not a monitor for all those who wish the iMac was headless, and think there needs to be a middle-machine between the Mini and the PowerMacs. Anyone else dare to tell me what kind of specs would be found on a 30th Anniversary Mac. If they did make it a portable I think it would be a 13.3" MacBook Pro (except without that name and called the 30th anniversary Mac instead) and it be like the MacBook Pro's except instead of white like the MacBook/iBook it be silver (black?), backlit keyboard, etc. etc. dual 2.0+ processor and pretty much just a shrunken 15" MBP. But I have no idea, but would love to hear somebody else's idea/thoughts... So have at it!:D

Oblivious

Mar 9, 2006, 09:18 PM

I doubt Apple will release any specific anniversary edition of their products; at most I think they will just show off the new MacBooks (iBook) and hopefully an iPod AV.:D

SeaFox

Mar 9, 2006, 09:30 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:

Yeah, and how much was the original iPod?

Oh, yeah, it was $400 :rolleyes:

powerbook911

Mar 9, 2006, 09:38 PM

Yeah, and how much was the original iPod?

Oh, yeah, it was $400 :rolleyes:

Plus, my current iPod, iPod with Video Playback bonus was $400!

I don't see the big deal about $400-$500, for a widescreen full video iPod.

sishaw

Mar 9, 2006, 09:38 PM

I think BOTH "is" and "are" can be correct with "none"... And isn't "none" derived from "not one?" So "not one are" doesn't work, but "not one is" does :)

Sorry to drag out the O/T.

Actually, it's more video iPod tomfoolery. I'm not sorry :)

From Dictionary.com:

Usage Note: It is widely asserted that none is equivalent to no one, and hence requires a singular verb and singular pronoun: None of the prisoners was given his soup. It is true that none is etymologically derived from the Old English word n, “one,” but the word has been used as both a singular and a plural noun from Old English onward. The plural usage appears in the King James Bible as well as the works of John Dryden and Edmund Burke and is widespread in the works of respectable writers today. Of course, the singular usage is perfectly acceptable. The choice between a singular or plural verb depends on the desired effect. Both options are acceptable in this sentence: None of the conspirators has (or have) been brought to trial. When none is modified by almost, however, it is difficult to avoid treating the word as a plural: Almost none of the officials were (not was) interviewed by the committee. None can only be plural in its use in sentences such as None but his most loyal supporters believe (not believes) his story.

There's nothing like actually looking things up.

Warbrain

Mar 9, 2006, 09:39 PM

Oh, what a wonderful birthday present to me that would be.

And to think that I could've been born on April 1st. Damn hospital was full that day.

peharri

Mar 9, 2006, 09:41 PM

i hope its not an iPod for the 30 aniversity

apple was a computer company 30 years ago... not the music juggernaut that it is today

they need to release a unique and rare computer

They could finally get around to releasing the Apple IV.

Good: Dual Core 6502, 512kb of RAM, 40Mb HD, Flat screen Green Monitor $666
Better: Twin Dual Core 6502s, 512kb of RAM, 80Mb HD, Flat screen 4096 colour 640x240 NTSC monitor: $1,299
Best: Twin Dual Core 6502s, 1Mb of RAM, 120Mb HD, Flat screen high resolution (640x480) monitor: $1,999

Boingy

Mar 9, 2006, 09:47 PM

They could finally get around to releasing the Apple IV.

I don't know how I feel about an Apple IV, but I'm kind of squeemish about needles. :p

~V

puuukeey

Mar 9, 2006, 09:51 PM

I would underwhelmed if the ipod was the big thing on april 1st. these multitouch ideas we've been seeing are really promising. I can't wait for something like the lemur with out all the infrastructure.

AidenShaw

Mar 9, 2006, 09:52 PM

They could finally get around to releasing the Apple IV.

Good: Dual Core 6502, 512kb of RAM, 40Mb HD, Flat screen Green Monitor $666
Better: Twin Dual Core 6502s, 512kb of RAM, 80Mb HD, Flat screen 4096 colour 640x240 NTSC monitor: $1,299
Best: Twin Dual Core 6502s, 1Mb of RAM, 120Mb HD, Flat screen high resolution (640x480) monitor: $1,999
For those prices, I'd expect more that 1 mega-bit of RAM and 120 mega-bit of disk.

Multiply by eight, and make it bytes, and maybe I'll teletype my bank routing info to +1.408.666.6666 and buy one.

dlastmango

Mar 9, 2006, 10:01 PM

Oh, what a wonderful birthday present to me that would be.

And to think that I could've been born on April 1st. Damn hospital was full that day.

Wasn't too full for me...

APRIL 1st IS MY B-DAY TOO!!!
I'll be 31 though :(

boncellis

Mar 9, 2006, 10:02 PM

...these multitouch ideas we've been seeing are really promising. I can't wait for something like the lemur with out all the infrastructure.

Though likely not ready for the 30th Anniversary, I agree that some sort of touchscreen input to augment existing input devices could change the way people use computers. Enough with the stylus already, time for someone to come up with a solution that lets a user reach out and touch the screen as a valid means of inputting information without worrying about damaging it (even the Cinema Displays).

Tupring

Mar 9, 2006, 10:10 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:
You would need some awfully big pockets, don't you think?

rockthecasbah

Mar 9, 2006, 10:14 PM

medeski martin and wood?

(in reference to your sig....)
yep, i love MMW, i have every album...;)

m-dogg

Mar 9, 2006, 10:21 PM

I think $400-$500 is too much when you can buy a whole computer from dell for the same price (actually cheaper)! :eek:

My original iPod was $499 (2nd Gen 20GB).

My girlfriend (now fiancee) got it for me for Christmas. Oh how I remember the looks my family gave me - They just had a really hard time grasping what exactly an iPod was, why it was so expensive, and why I was so damn excited about it!

Now my brother has an iPod and my parents & brother have iMacs! ;)

p0intblank

Mar 9, 2006, 10:45 PM

I think this could very well happen, along with the iTunes Movie Store. I don't know about announcing it on a Saturday, though... perhaps the Tuesday before or after it? Only time will tell. :)

Boingy

Mar 9, 2006, 10:48 PM

I think this could very well happen, along with the iTunes Movie Store. I don't know about announcing it on a Saturday, though... perhaps the Tuesday before or after it? Only time will tell. :)

I agree that it won't be on a Saturday but in the end why not? If they were available in stores that same day how many people would RUN to the nearest Apple store and buy one? Then again, how many REAL pictures of the thing would be out that Friday or earlier of packaging and all.

~V

Tupring

Mar 9, 2006, 10:50 PM

The subject is "none," not "images." "Images" is the object of the preposition. That being said, while in American "none" is always singular, in British "none" can be a collective noun, so that in British "none are" is perfectly acceptable grammatically, while in American "none is" is the preferred usage.I am American and "none is" is not the proper way!! They have this thing here in America called school, and they teach proper grammar there.

Boingy

Mar 9, 2006, 10:58 PM

I am American and "none is" is not the proper way!! They have this thing here in America called school, and they teach proper grammar there.

They do no such thing! What's the plural of aquarium? If you said aquariums you're incorrect it's aquaria; or of radius? Radii. What pronoun takes the place of X in the following sentance? 'The prisoner was bored, X had nothing to do.' If you said they you're again incorrect. 'They' is plural; 'he/she' is singular as is 'the prisoner.' Both of these incorrect ways are taught in the US as acceptable. </grammer Nazi>

~V

FlyNolJ

Mar 9, 2006, 11:05 PM

That price tag is waaaay steep especially after Microsofts UMPC Origami project. That ***** is sweet. Ooooh oooh a video iPod.....great. :confused: Apple needs a tablet.

bretm

Mar 9, 2006, 11:07 PM

The subject is "none," not "images." "Images" is the object of the preposition. That being said, while in American "none" is always singular, in British "none" can be a collective noun, so that in British "none are" is perfectly acceptable grammatically, while in American "none is" is the preferred usage.

Hmmm, I live Georgia, and I was under the impression that a double or quadruple negative like "none ain't" would the correct usage. "None of them images ain't believed to be real at no time no how, no sir," would be a perfect example of a well structured phrase.

treblah

Mar 9, 2006, 11:34 PM

That price tag is waaaay steep especially after Microsofts UMPC Origami project. That ***** is sweet. Ooooh oooh a video iPod.....great. :confused: Apple needs a tablet.

A two pound brick that won't fit in my pocket, doesn't replace my cell phone, iPod or DS and gets 2 hours of battery life. And the absolute cheapest one might be $599. Sweet indeed.

But I digress... ;)

age234

Mar 9, 2006, 11:37 PM

BlueRevolution

Mar 9, 2006, 11:51 PM

I'm hoping that ain't it.

come on, we get a new iPod every other Tuesday. give us something fun and new, like an Xserve (see sig).

Plecky

Mar 10, 2006, 12:04 AM

Language evolves, let's move on.

While I can't wait for the eventual iPod AV, I do hope they come out with some kind of one-time-only product like the 20th Anniversary Mac. Not that I can dream of affording a $10,000 computer, but someone could, and it'd be sweet.

Was the 20th Anniversary Mac really 10 grand? Sorry I don't recall but I was still living in the Windows world back then... Although I wasn't a huge fan of Macs until OSX, and more notably Jaguar and Panther. Anyways, for that amount of money it would have to be a dual processor quad-core woodcrest Mac Pro with 4 gigs of ram, 512 video card, and 30" ACD, wireless keyboard and newly released wireless mighty mouse included. Although since those odds are very unlikely, I don't know what in the world could warrent a 10 grand price tag...

...Wait! I take that back. Remember those 42" and 50" Plasma's with iMac like computers built in? Maybe a 50" Plasma with PowerMac or XServe like stats to it would warrent the 10 G's, but even with Plasma prices dropping it be a tough call... Might want to up the ante to a 60" Plasma Quad-Core just to be safe;)

Oh where's Crazy O'Grady (as I call him) when you need him? He's the master of April Fool's jokes, even when it's nowhere near April Fool's. Then again he is a fool so I guess it makes sense and I understand... But for his sake, if what I mentioned was release - who'd snag one? More realistically, thanks for reminding me of the rumored-Tablet. I think that will be my far-fetched guess for their 30th Anniversary Computer whether it be a full on 12-14" Tablet iBook type deal or a 7" Origami competitor for all them Newton fans (as long as they don't call it the Ultra-Mobile Mac). But I guess a 4" iPod AV with Touch Screen would probably be more successful regardless, especially with the iPod branding being on it. That branding alone will save the Hi-Fi and make it a success, but those leather cases... Let's just say I'm not holding my breath, that will probably see a Mac like market share, and I'm speaking early 90's Mac like market share...:cool:

sam10685

Mar 10, 2006, 12:08 AM

awww... was hoping for a 30th Anniversary Mac.... :(

Oh well, maybe Steve will do the iPod and then say the magic words...
"One more thing..."

that would be good too... maybe well get something with the specs of the low-end iMac but in the casing of the first mac. probably not but i'm just tired and i'm using an imagination that i have.

sam10685

Mar 10, 2006, 12:10 AM

come on, we get a new iPod every other Tuesday. give us something fun and new, like an Xserve (see sig).

the last ipod the came out was last october.

berkleeboy210

Mar 10, 2006, 12:49 AM

the last ipod the came out was last october.

yea, this fits in nicely right around the normal iPod cycle change. regardless, I can't wait to see what the next few weeks bring out

FlyNolJ

Mar 10, 2006, 02:14 AM

A two pound brick that won't fit in my pocket, doesn't replace my cell phone, iPod or DS and gets 2 hours of battery life. And the absolute cheapest one might be $599. Sweet indeed.

But I digress... ;)

I completely agree with you---> Apple makes it, it replaces every iPod/DS, gets 5+ hours of battery life, can fit in your pocket and isn't a brick. They need to get on the ball because I'm just tired of more iPod this, more iPod that. Soon their iPod glory will run dry.

ATG

Mar 10, 2006, 03:53 AM

Come on Apple, you can do better than that. Last decade you had a Mac so how about a 30th Aniversary Mac with an Athlon 64 X2 4800+.

(I can dream :p)

teme

Mar 10, 2006, 04:11 AM

*If* the movie store one day opens...

It's interesting to see if the movie store is only available in the US, or will the other iTunes Music Stores also include full-lenght movies.

I think the success of the video iPod depends on the availability of the movie download service. Here in Finland the iTMS still doesn't include any music videos or tv-shows. I wouldn't buy a video iPod if I can't buy any videos for it. It's different case in music.

aswitcher

Mar 10, 2006, 04:30 AM

Oh good, something new to wait 3 weeks to see if it comes true :rolleyes:

dzire187

Mar 10, 2006, 07:27 AM

"Ok, we have shown you some fun new products. You have seen the iPod AV, macTabPro and nano AV. But, there is one more thing..."

(this is the moment where the audience goes crazy)

"Every iPod is now shipping with a Live Preview of Mac OS X Anniversary Edition for any Intel and AMD. If you like it you can buy your OS X license in the iTunes music store and upgrade your live preview to a full working OS X. Meaning we're basically shipping OS X with every iPod now. So, you can grab your copy of this century's most advanced operating system or wait for vaporware vista to disappoint you..."

I know. Never going to happen. But I would love to see what MS does if Apple were releasing OS X with every iPod. That would be huge...

asxtb

Mar 10, 2006, 07:59 AM

'The prisoner were bored, X had nothing to do.' I~V
Even this example is wrong. The 'prisoner were' bored...? It should be 'the prisoners were' or 'the prisoner was'

Boingy

Mar 10, 2006, 08:40 AM

Even this example is wrong. The 'prisoner were' bored...? It should be 'the prisoners were' or 'the prisoner was'

Thanks; I had 'the prisoners were' then realized that didn't cause the pronoun-anticedent problem so I changed the subject and not the verb.

~V

Boingy

Mar 10, 2006, 08:46 AM

Yet another PSed iPod AV photo has surfaced (http://crater.wordpress.com/2006/02/26/dagens-forsta-bild-apple/) This is just getting silly.

~V

Platform

Mar 10, 2006, 08:51 AM

awww... was hoping for a 30th Anniversary Mac.... :(

Oh well, maybe Steve will do the iPod and then say the magic words...
"One more thing..."

Yeah...it's Apple thats 30 year....those who make computer that look great...iPod is a great add on...not the core...:o

Proud Liberal

Mar 10, 2006, 08:54 AM

As far as the possibility of the video iPod goes, I could see Apple introduce it as discrete from the current 5G iPod so that the iPod line consisted of the shuffle, nano, 5G and video iPod. If that is the case, one has to wonder if the new rumored video iPod will cannibalize sales of the 5G.

Maybe Apple will have to drop the price of the 5G to keep it around.

That's kinda how I'm seeing it too. I am soooo hoping that they would give the 5G a boost to 80GB. I'm not really in the market for a "true video iPod", but my 60GB iPod photo is dangerously close to being full...

oofus

Mar 10, 2006, 09:28 AM

Yet another PSed iPod AV photo has surfaced (http://crater.wordpress.com/2006/02/26/dagens-forsta-bild-apple/) This is just getting silly.

~V

That's not a new image, it was posted February 26th. But still it's a ****** fake. :p

ITR 81

Mar 10, 2006, 10:14 AM

The irony:

The April 1 video iPod is likely to be real.

Today's March 9 gaming iPod is an April Fool's joke :o

Well I said it about a month or so ago..if they were to release one it would be on or around their B-day.

As for games...Macaddict recently added a gaming section to it's mag this month..so apparently games are starting to become more popular on Macs now days with the switch to Intel.

FoxyKaye

Mar 10, 2006, 01:40 PM

I dunno - it seems likely that a video touch screen is the next evolution of the iPod. But, as others have pointed out, there will reach a point of either market saturation or when folks realize that what they really want is an MP3 player, in which case there are tons of options.

However, being optimistic, it would certainly be fun to have the "true video" iPod, especially if it could pick up some more PDA capabilities. I mean, even my old 2G iPod has some sort of calendar function, so it's obvious that Apple's thinking about this a little bit. And, I don't think that everyone needs a PDA as complex as an iPaq, so why not dual-purpose the iPod a little more and take advantage of a touch screen interface? Heck, wireless and/or bluetooth might make it a really neato device. Couple that with the FM-radio plug-in, and you've got something that's not trying to be an AIO cell phone, but is more robust than a basic MP3 player.

GregA2

Mar 11, 2006, 11:42 AM

This is probably a bit off topic by now, but earlier in the thread someone linked to a thread about the original iPod, and there was a post in there that left me in awe, considering everything that's happened since then:

"All that hype for an MP3 player? Break-thru digital device? The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."

:eek:

Tupring

Mar 11, 2006, 04:00 PM

mcmillan

Mar 11, 2006, 06:20 PM

I really don't know what to expect anymore. Apple rumors are just crazy. There were like 100 iPod AV fakes, and there was no iPod AV. I think this (http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/796.html) explains my point better. :p

carve

Mar 11, 2006, 06:57 PM

thats april fools day right maybe its just a joke?...but i dont think apple would do that though.:confused:

InTheBand

Mar 13, 2006, 03:07 AM

For it's 30th anniversary, I predict that Apple will introduce...

- A new version of Sherlock with specialized Chinese factory worker writing translation capabilities

- A new version of Aperture that automatically recognizes fake mock-ups

- An official Apple rumor site

- An iRumor Video Store [iRVS] with pay-to-own AND subscription options to download videos of Steve Jobs laughing his a$$ off as he reads the non-official Apple rumor site threads.

:)

InTheBand

Mar 13, 2006, 03:14 AM

thats april fools day right maybe its just a joke?...but i dont think apple would do that though.:confused:

Oh yeah, and Apple will also add the date that Apple was founded [April 1st, 1976] to every page on it's website, in the menu bar of every one of it's applications, engrave it on every piece of hardware, and for the truly Mac faithful, an option to have it engraved on their foreheads.

:)

There were like 100 iPod AV fakes, and there was no iPod AV.

I think that if SJ had been able to negotiate the deals with the movie studios in time for the Feb. 28th event, he would've introduced the new vPod/iPod AV.

I believe it's ready to go, but that the movie content availability is the deal breaker. He won't introduce the new video iPod without movies to offer. Now he has a couple of more weeks to finalize this and really have a HUGE 30th anniversary event with the introduction of the vPod, a movie download service, Intel MacBooks, possibly the MacPod/MacPad [clipboard sized pda/tablet hybrid] and still have time to talk about Apple's 30 year history.

Even if the other studios pull a "Madonna" and don't offer their content on the new movie store at first, I think Steve will just launch with Disney and Disney owned studios [Pixar, Touchstone, Castle Rock, etc.] content. Just like they launched iTMS with only 200,000 songs and the television episode option with only 3 shows. Look how quickly every jumped on those bandwagons.

That'll light the fire under the other guys' behinds to jump onboard or be left behind. :D

Don't forget that the Feb 28th event felt like it was cut short , it probably would have been at [i]least an hour. I doubt that SJ and Apple would've invited the press to an event if they knew that they were only going to introduce the iPod HiFi and Intel Mac Mini's.

I think that 20 minutes would've been plenty of time to introduce the new video iPod and an iMovie Video Store.

I'm also expecting a new, powerful television commercial and ad campaign like the Macs original "1984". This one will probably talk about how Apple's Macintosh computers popularized the mouse back then, but that now it's time for a new way to interact with technology: Multi-touch point input.

BAM!!! Intro the video iPod and the MacPod/MacPad!:D

DCapple

Mar 13, 2006, 03:48 AM

i hope it wont turn out to be a dissapointment like the Feb 28 event...

InTheBand

Mar 13, 2006, 04:44 AM

[from the writer of the article linked below]

"UPDATE: I got a call from Tom Southwick, senior vice president of communicaions for Starz Entertainment. He tells me that it was Starz that commissioned the survey mentioned above, because it is interested in having Apple become a partner for its new Vongo movie download service. He says there have been some talks, but Apple still seems committed to its a la carte approach."

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2006/03/keep_experiment.html?campaign_id=mb

baddaddy

Mar 21, 2006, 11:41 AM

Apple usually sends out invites a week before the event. I think we can safely rule out the 28th. Here is hoping for invitations next week. Also, did anyone see that either sony or samsung rolled out 20'' lcd tv's with integrated computers earlier today?

Rickay726

Mar 22, 2006, 08:31 PM

this would be utterly amazing. un less its all an april fools joke. that would suck.

Tupring

Mar 30, 2006, 05:33 AM

No one's posted to this thread in a week, so i doubt anybody will see this but… http://boakes.org/apple-ipod-space-advert

mongoos150

Mar 30, 2006, 08:40 AM

Dumbest.Thing.Ever. It's a nano.

electric

Mar 30, 2006, 01:24 PM

No one's posted to this thread in a week, so i doubt anybody will see this but… http://boakes.org/apple-ipod-space-advert

Great find!

here is a link furthur down the page http://maps.google.com/?ll=50.00989,-110.114293&spn=0.013666,0.011287&t=k

looks like an egyptian sculpture with an ipod earing

Wacky

sam10685

Mar 31, 2006, 02:04 AM

Well, if photos of Origami turned out to be true, then ...

photo's of origami made me want to vomit. then when origami showed up, i did vomit.

electric

Apr 3, 2006, 02:43 AM

Proud Liberal

Apr 3, 2006, 08:08 AM

Interesting that Hollywood has now agreed to start offering movies for download

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2006/tc20060403_171850.htm

Now I am not predicting that the video ipod is coming out Tuesday, but.....

not likely. According the Financial Times, Microsoft is the big winner in this deal - "The new service represents a potential coup for Microsoft. Its Windows Media format will be the technical standard for Movielink."
Looks like Apple may be left out of this one...and this is a huge deal, considering the studios that have signed on.

http://us.ft.com/ftsuperpage/superpage.php?news_id=fto040320060716093146&page=1&referrer_id=yahoofinance