Apple Media Event Near April First?

[MacRumors]

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AppleInsider reports (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1587) that Apple will hold a media event in conjunction with its 30th anniversary (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060309183950.shtml) on April 1, but that the date of the event may be just before or after April 1st since the day is a Saturday.

Sources are almost certain the event will play host to a new line of 13-inch widescreen consumer iBook notebooks based on Intel microprocessors. Additional announcements such as a high-end 17-inch MacBook Pro and a high-profile iPod-related product may also be in the cards.

The last media event, on February 28, saw the introduction of the new Intel Mac mini (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060228140422.shtml) and the iPod Hi-Fi (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060228141350.shtml).

[Doctor Q]

AppleInsider also states that the event should be more exciting/important than the previous event, and that Apple needs to move quickly because of the upcoming educational buying season.

[excalibur313]

I just hope that they start shipping those 13" soon. If we have a 3 month wait I might lose it.

[Chundles]

So has AI just become a subsidiary of the Stating the Bleeding Obvious Media Group??

[Stella]

Prepare to start whinning when those 13" iBooks come with IIG..

( Personally, I don't care - I'm hoping for dual cores!)

[excalibur313]

So has AI just become a subsidiary of the Stating the Bleeding Obvious Media Group??

Probably because they got sued a while back right? Or was that think secret?

Yeah Stella, I wonder how they will fill the $1000 price range they have now...Will they go from bottom of the barrel single cores up to really nice dual cores?

[davey-nb]

Videos for everyone, all music everywhere, bienvenue à tous.
j' espere.:)

[Chundles]

Probably because they got sued a while back right? Or was that think secret?

That was TS.

[gunm]

I don't care, I'm still excited as I'm really looking forward to a duo core Macbook.

Anyone care to wager whether the event will be held on the 28th of this month or 4th of next month as Appleinsider speculates? Of course both dates might be wrong, but I'll choose the 4th to be safe...

[Danksi]

PowerMac's and new version of Final Cut Studio :p

[G5Unit]

PowerBook G5! April Fools!:D

[zelmo]

I vote for Wednesday the 29th of March. Apple has shifted some of the big announcements to Wednesdays in recent past, and that gives ample time for the media outlets to crow or bash whatever they unveil. OTOH, Steve is certainly not above making us wait until the following week.

[Mammoth]

Perfect timing.. I happen to be on vacation in Silicon Valley on the 1st, maybe I can go watch myself. Anyone know if 'civilians' are allowed into these things, or just devs and media peeps?

[excalibur313]

Perfect timing.. I happen to be on vacation in Silicon Valley on the 1st, maybe I can go watch myself. Anyone know if 'civilians' are allowed into these things, or just devs and media peeps?

You need a ticket which is pretty pricey.

[darh]

Perfect timing.. I happen to be on vacation in Silicon Valley on the 1st, maybe I can go watch myself. Anyone know if 'civilians' are allowed into these things, or just devs and media peeps?



probably inventation only:(

[ppnkg]

Good. I'm getting a new ibook as soon as they come out.

[iMeowbot]

I know that the IBOOK is one of the biggest sellers in the MAC range, but wouldn't that be kind of a mundane thing to drag out to mark the company's 30th anniversary?

[excalibur313]

I know that the IBOOK is one of the biggest sellers in the MAC range, but wouldn't that be kind of a mundane thing to drag out to mark the company's 30th anniversary?

Not if it has a redesigned case like people were discussing before... (was that even a real rumor or did people just say it so often they thought it was true?)

[QCassidy352]

I'm intrigued that they think there will be ibook and 17" MB Pros but not 12/13" MB Pros. Does that mean the 12" powerbook is not going to be replaced and there will be no "pro" laptop below 15"?

If that's the case, there had better be some nice offerings (at least on a higher-end model) on the 13" ibook. If apple doesn't offer a 12/13" notebook (they can call it either line they want) with DVI, core duo, and dedicated graphics, I (and a lot of others) are going to be pretty angry.

Personally, I think there will be no 12/13" "pro" notebook. The MBP will be available only in 15" and 17", and the ibook/macbook will be available only in 13" but will have options ranging from a 1.5 Ghz core solo to a 1.66 Ghz core duo, all models with DVI. I think this because Al casing not withstanding, the 12" PB has always been a lot closer to the ibook than to the bigger powerbooks. So I think apple will make it official and just axe it rather than trying to differentiate between the 13" ibook and 13" MBP.

[Danksi]

I know that the IBOOK is one of the biggest sellers in the MAC range, but wouldn't that be kind of a mundane thing to drag out to mark the company's 30th anniversary?

Not if they go on to sell a shed load of 'em!

[excalibur313]

Yeah, QCassidy352 if they don't release a smaller 'book that packs a pretty nice punch (a duo) we should storm Apple HQ. I don't care what the call it as long as they can put nice specs in it. Do you think that a smaller book would be able to handle higher end core duos and video cards or would they need to water it down to get it to fit in a smaller case? From what I remember it seems like the 15" is pretty packed right?

[m-dogg]

I know I'm just dreaming, but I wish they'd offer a higher-end 13" MacBook with a BTO option of aluminum or similar metallic enclosure. Then just have 15" & 17" pro models.

But I know that won't happen...

[excalibur313]

I know I'm just dreaming, but I wish they'd offer a higher-end 13" MacBook with a BTO option of aluminum or similar metallic enclosure. Then just have 15" & 17" pro models.

But I know that won't happen...

We don't know what the enclosure type will be at all...

[dongmin]

Not if it has a redesigned case like people were discussing before... (was that even a real rumor or did people just say it so often they thought it was true?)it's been rumored numerous times but that doesn't mean it's a bunch of made-up hooey.

Check out this report from AI back in November. (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1359)

Without getting into specific dates at this time, sources familiar with Apple's Macintosh hardware roadmap say the company is striving to unveil a completely redesigned set of Intel iBook laptops just in time for next year's K-12 educational buying season, which takes place around April or May.

Apple currently offers iBooks with either a standard 12- or 14-inch screen, but looks poised to introduce a completely new model built around (what appears to be) a 13-inch widescreen.

-13" widescreen
-built-in iSight
-25% thinner
-new magnetic latch
-frontrow with apple remote
-magsafe
-mac mini mobo

Please please please, Steve, let it be true. And yeah, discrete graphics in the higher end!

[Agathon]

Hope it ain't a revamp of the iPod since I bought one yesterday.

Ahhh.... who am I kidding, if I lost an arm today, I wouldn't notice as long as it wasn't the one holding my iPod. lurve....

[iMeowbot]

Not if it has a redesigned case like people were discussing before... (was that even a real rumor or did people just say it so often they thought it was true?)
I'm sure that any redesign will be nice, but "culmination of thirty years' progress" nice? Wouldn't that sort of tick off all those nice paying customers who are still waiting for their shiny, expensive new MacBook Pros to be delivered?

[DCapple]

AppleInsider also states that the event should be more exciting/important than the previous event, and that Apple needs to move quickly because of the upcoming educational buying season.

they are just getting us too excited for this event!!! :D

[QCassidy352]

Do you think that a smaller book would be able to handle higher end core duos and video cards or would they need to water it down to get it to fit in a smaller case? From what I remember it seems like the 15" is pretty packed right?

yeah, that's the question. They could stick a decent graphics chip (even the 9550 in the current ibook is worlds better than the intel integrated in the mini) in a 13" laptop at very little cost. But if they want a small, sleek enclosure, the physical space may prevent it. I don't know enough about the physical dimensions of the various components to accurately predict if it would be possible or not, but they're going to make a *lot* of people upset if there's no sub-15" laptop with dedicated graphics.

The specs dongmin suggests would be great. 25% thinner would be amazing. I think front row w/ remote and magsafe are pretty much guaranteed, and the isight is pretty likely. What really matters to me is a core duo (solo + rosetta = agony), DVI, and a graphics that can drive a 20" or 23" ACD with power to spare.

[Plecky]

I believe there will be:
- 13.3" Enclosure
- iSight OR Front-Row (not both, just to differentiate from the MBP, unless they have a high end model that includes both). Odds are though just front row across the lines, built in iSight for top of the line MBP-esque model if they don't offer a MBP version at that size/form-factor while releasing a 17" version.
- Similar specs to Mac Mini's, possibly on the GPU end as well, but once again maybe the highest end MBP-esque model will have a X1300 @ 64mb.
- 25% thinner, who knows but definitely possible. I mean, the 12" iBooks were 1.35" right? So 25% thinner for the cool-running Core Solo version, possibly thicker for the Core Duo or integrated iSight/GPU ones. But 25% Thinner I think can be done, but don't expect a 8x SuperDrive, let alone Dual-Layer. Heck, maybe the thinnest model will HAVE to be a combo drive, while the iSight/GPU/SuperDrive one will be thicker, but possibly still 10% thinner, who knows...
- Unfortunately I believe it'll stick with white enclosure, and if there's any second option color I doubt it will be metallic/aluminum like one posts wishes, if anything it be that Jet Black we've been seeing on the 5G iPods and Nano's.

Maybe...?:rolleyes:

[sam10685]

it BETTER be better than february 28th. that made me want to vomit.

[GimmeSlack12]

The Quantum Powermac will finally be released in April.

It's about freakin' time!

[Peyton]

$300 white plastic iPod cases?! Please?

This is a PERFECT example, why oh why would someone mark an Apple media event like the 30th anniversary as negative? I will never understand this.

[yoda13]

If they could give me the specs of the high end mac mini with dedicated graphics, then i would pull out my credit card and happily take the plunge....:cool:

[Plecky]

Oh I forgot, this too:

- New Magnatic latch, I have no idea. Wildcard?
- Magsafe I think is a given, although a less powerful one so the brick may be the same size as they use to be oppose to the larger one found with the MBP's. Also cause I doubt the battery will be bigger/Li-Polymer/60W/etc. If anything the battery will be the same unless they make the displays ACD-bright like they did on the MBP's and I highly doubt that... Although there's something nobody's really commented on/hoped for which I find suprising. But I guess after the "whining" problem found on some MBP's maybe people rather not risk it, as well as battery life that should be better then on the MBP's.
- Speaking of battery life, I think this will also be less then the 6 hours found on the old iBooks but I think only marginally, maybe down to apple estimates of 4.5-5.5 hours, real-life usage shorter. With possible different battery life based on core solo or core duo? Not sure though since I don't know the specs on both to say for sure...
- Lastly, I wonder what the Price Tags will be because I personally fear/think that they may pull a Mac Mini on us and make the prices incrase a 100 on each end. 1099 on the low end, 1399 on the middle/high end, and if there's a 3 config. that's like a MBP-esque 13.3" then 1599 or more...

There we go, just had to throw that out there as well!;)

[sam10685]

Hope it ain't a revamp of the iPod since I bought one yesterday.

Ahhh.... who am I kidding, if I lost an arm today, I wouldn't notice as long as it wasn't the one holding my iPod. lurve....

why would u by a brand new iPod yesterday? pretty much every rumor everywhere says that we are going to be seeing a new ipod any day now.

[sam10685]

The Quantum Powermac will finally be released in April.

It's about freakin' time!

please explain what the specs to a "Quantum Powermac" would be.

[macFanDave]

will come out and do something absolutely crazy for April Fools' Day: he'll come out in a navy blue mock turtleneck!!!!

You heard it here first.

[nagromme]

I say April 4 :) Because can I afford to waste that particular day looking at rumors, transcripts, fakes, and whining :)

please explain what the specs to a "Quantum Powermac" would be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing :)

BTW, not quite the same thing but I think there are already quantum-encrypted networks in use in a few places--like between the White House and the Pentagon if I'm not mistaken.

[Agathon]

why would u by a brand new iPod yesterday? pretty much every rumor everywhere says that we are going to be seeing a new ipod any day now.

Because I like the 5G ones and I am afraid they might change it to something I don't like. And I don't care about video at all.

I definitely don't want a tablet iPod, since the scratches will be worse than on the current models.

[QCassidy352]

If anything the battery will be the same unless they make the displays ACD-bright like they did on the MBP's and I highly doubt that...
- Speaking of battery life...

oh! how could i forget the screen and the battery life?? Both very important factors. I really hope the new ibook screen is at least somewhat brighter than the current ibook, as that's my main complaint with my wonderful little computer. :)

I've never found the current ibooks to get anywhere near 6 hours real battery life... more like 4 with moderate use and settings (AE on, BT off, word and safari). Maye 4.5 with the screen dimmed. If the new ibooks can match what we currently have I'd be happy.

[mike3k]

I'm intrigued that they think there will be ibook and 17" MB Pros but not 12/13" MB Pros. Does that mean the 12" powerbook is not going to be replaced and there will be no "pro" laptop below 15"?


It does make sense. There's not really a clear enough distinction between the 12" PowerBook & iBook. The G4 iBook reached higher clock speeds than the previous generation PowerBook and each generation of iBook gained features of the previous generation PowerBook.

[MacMosher]

.... if anything it be that Jet Black we've been seeing on the 5G iPods and Nano's.

Maybe...?:rolleyes:
ahaha that would be so amazing, I would deffinitly get it.

Im so happy that Im starting to hear about the intel ibook again
it was in need of being brought back up so my hopes and dreams
wouldnt come crashing down :eek: ahah

I as well I think the speculations are very accurate and not over doing it.

[EricNau]

I hope they come out with a cheap iBook (cheaper than $1000) - something that I could possibly afford. :o

[rockthecasbah]

will come out and do something absolutely crazy for April Fools' Day: he'll come out in a navy blue mock turtleneck!!!!

You heard it here first.
and maybe...gasp. DOCKERS INSTEAD OF BLUE JEANS!! :eek:

[MacMosher]

and maybe...gasp. DOCKERS INSTEAD OF BLUE JEANS!! :eek:
O comon hes not rich or anything dont expect him to hace to go out and buy a pair of pants for the show.. geez you think the man is made of money or somthing?

[DPazdanISU]

Because I like the 5G ones and I am afraid they might change it to something I don't like. And I don't care about video at all.

I definitely don't want a tablet iPod, since the scratches will be worse than on the current models.

Yea but after this event you can get a brand new 5g ipod on apples website for way cheaper until they run out of stock...;) You will want the 6g tho. Weird saying 6g. Anyways I want the new Mac Books to look like ipods. I want a black shell or white on the inside where the keyboard and screen is and chrome on the outside (let me dream):D

[berkleeboy210]

Wow, before this story was even posted i said on My Podcast too look for an Apple event either March 28th or April 4th. I'm leaning towards March 28th so they can have some of the products in stores by April 1

[Shamus]

does this mean there will be no new ipod?? :(
I would be happy with just an update to the nano line or something but PLEASE just do something with the ipods

[MacMosher]

does this mean there will be no new ipod?? :(
I would be happy with just an update to the nano line or something but PLEASE just do something with the ipods
They always have somthing for the iPod... some times its nothing more then a sock but they really REALLY need to come out witha new iBook.

[puckhead193]

Mr Jobs, I want an updated nano please:)

[berkleeboy210]

They always have somthing for the iPod... some times its nothing more then a sock but they really REALLY need to come out witha new iBook.

yea, iBooks are way over do for an update

[BWhaler]

So has AI just become a subsidiary of the Stating the Bleeding Obvious Media Group??

I like AI and think they are good guys, but I had the same reaction.

This article is clearly not based on new information or a leak at all. Just a very safe bet and some very vague speculation.

AI should be careful with articles like this, or they will end up with the credibility of Spymac.

[Shamus]

They always have somthing for the iPod... some times its nothing more then a sock but they really REALLY need to come out witha new iBook.

6gb nano and i will be happeeeee :)

[berkleeboy210]

6gb nano and i will be happeeeee :)

i think they will up the nanos to 6gb and 8gb

[rdbishop]

Predictions for the 13-inch iBook.

I definitely expect a core duo model, given that the performance of core solo hardly offers the speed boasts expected in the iBook line. There will likely be a cheaper core solo iBook just like the mac mini. In fact my guess is that the specs will be very similar to that of the minis, as has been mentioned, the mini is basically an iBook sans screen. I think those hoping for dedicated graphics will be disappointed. Given that the iBook will offer Core Duo, I doubt the budget will be able to fit dedicated graphics. FrontRow is a definite, and iSight possible. Given that this is the HD age I wouldn’t be surprised to see DVI-out on the new iBooks. Also given that the mini offers optical audio in/out that may also show up on the iBook, as it is useful not just for pros but also for hooking up to state of the art home theater equipment, although I think optical in/out is less likely than DVI. Dedicated graphics may well show up on future revisions as the price of the components comes down, but I expect at first the use of onboard graphics to be a big distinguishing point between the iBook and the MacBook Pro, especially given the common Core Duo cpu (albeit the iBooks will offer lower clocked versions of Duo similar to the mini), and if the iBook comes equipped with DVI and/or optical in/out.

[noel4r]

Hopefully, it's a lot better than the previous media event. Whew, that was embarassing...

[Rocket Rion]

Hopefully, it's a lot better than the previous media event. Whew, that was embarassing...


Only embarassing to Mac fanboys who need to get a life.

[touring]

Since its introduction, people have been commenting on what an unimpressive "new" product the Hi-Fi is. I went to the local Apple Store to check one out. The one thing about the Hi-Fi that really struck me as odd, was the huge chamber on the back that is supposedly for the six, D-cell batteries. Apple has proven itself to be the master of squeezing computer components into very tight spaces (please refrain from rude comments), with products like the Mac mini and the iMac. Why would they choose to waste so much real estate for batteries? I will tell you why. That space is the future home of Apple's "next great thing". Along with the next generation video iPod, Jobs is going to introduce a "media bar" that fits into the empty battery compartment of the iPod Hi-Fi, that turns the product into a media center. The product will be like an Apple-on-a-stick. It will have the same ports as the Mac mini, less the power connector and the optical line that are already on the Hi-Fi. This elongated version of a Mac mini will not have to contain a power supply, power switch, hard drive, nor, of course, speakers. There may even be space for some extra NAND flash memory to serve as the video data buffer between the docked iPod and the video output. This is how Steve is going to convince the videophiles that Apple is the product of choice.

[Agathon]

Yea but after this event you can get a brand new 5g ipod on apples website for way cheaper until they run out of stock...;) You will want the 6g tho. Weird saying 6g. Anyways I want the new Mac Books to look like ipods. I want a black shell or white on the inside where the keyboard and screen is and chrome on the outside (let me dream):D

I got my iPod at a discount anyway.

[Pistol Pete]

It is to early to Tease :(

[p0intblank]

Now this event shall be awesome! :D

Can't wait!

Edit: Rocket Rion, lose the bad manners. :rolleyes:

[Shamus]

i think they will up the nanos to 6gb and 8gb

Let's hope so! :D

[reyesmac]

I think they should take this opportunity to show were the Mac has been and where it is going. They can show products that never went to market and share stories about the Mac and show what the next OS is going to look like. Yes I think they should introduce new products, but what other time will they have to do something like this? They should take time to celebrate what the Mac has been for the past 30 years before it turned into NeXt OS. Its the only time and probably last chance they have to do so.

[corbin_a2]

Only embarassing to Mac fanboys who need to get a life.


A little cruel, but he dose have a point. I still don't understand why people think that the last announcement was such a disaster. A little disappointing maybe, but not the end of the world as some would say...

[nagromme]

I still don't understand why people think that the last announcement was such a disaster. A little disappointing maybe, but not the end of the world as some would say...
It was disappointing because Apple invited only journalists to a 200-seat venue for "fun" product announcements... and yet somehow people on this site felt they were promised "life-changing" product announcements worthy of a 2000-seat venue open to the public :)

[gunm]

Predictions for the 13-inch iBook.

Dedicated graphics may well show up on future revisions as the price of the components comes down, but I expect at first the use of onboard graphics to be a big distinguishing point between the iBook and the MacBook Pro.

I think there will be dedicated graphics, along the lines of a 64MB ATI X1300/X1400 chip up to 256MB VRAM. The Mini is supposed to be a media hub, and keeping the form factor the same was apparently a top priority, so the GMA950 was better from a cost/engineering standpoint, but the MacBook will be more versatile than that and have a higher price and larger form factor, thus allowing for dedicated graphics.

[Plecky]

Regarding iPod's, this is what I think we may see:

- I feel that it may be a "iPod AV" as many have called it with 3.5"-4" screen.
- If not that, and a nano update, probably larger storage capacities - some comment/change regards to the coating on the front to prevent scratches this time around, although I doubt that because it mean Apple would have to admit that the first batch did suffer from excessive scratching and put themselves in a akward position for those lawsuits... The size increase though would probably be the 1 Gig dropping to a $129 price point (unless they drop the 1 gig altogether, but it seems too early for that, more likely they'd drop the shuffle line first...), 2 gig at 149, 4 gig at 199, and new 6 (or 8? I wish!) at 249.
- Even the shuffle line could see a update, even if it's as small as those smaller form factors and different colors that were rumored long ago way before the 1 gig nano was released and pretty much killed all those rumors upon arrival. But maybe the shuffle's got a dying breath left in it? Eh... I don't know either, but a shuffle that could fit in the express drive of my MacBook Pro (since the stupid front row remote doesn't and I wish it did! just seems like common sense to me.) but I'd get a shuffle if it could fit in the express card slot and charge/sync through it as well, although I don't know the depth of that slot although I'm sure after seein ghte nano that they could make it thin enough at 512/1gig capacties.
- A new iPod? Doubtful but I'm always willing to be suprised...
- A ressurection of the mini? As much as I wish they'd bring it back with a color screen, that awesome ionidized-aluminum closure, and flash innards with over 30 hours of battery life, I doubt it. It be more likely for them to just expand on the nano line offering the old colors of the mini on top of the currently offered black and white versions.

That's my speculation for now. What do I really wish for from this presentation in my widlest dreams? The PodPro (I use to call it the PowerPod but since they dropped Power and went with Pro I guess it would be the iPodPro or ProPod or something...) Whatever though, a silver ionidized aluminum full sized iPod with 80 gig drive @ 500 dollars. Pretty much like the current iPods (at the time, whatever there like when its released) except with a body to match the MacBook Pro's and PowerMacs of the world (like the white iPods complement the iBooks/iMac's so well). Besides that silver enclosure, the pro-part would be accompanied by the hefty price (usually common of their pro products) and the extra specs, in this case harddrive. 80 gig storage, and maybe on top of that - better battery life? I mean if the 60 gig gets better battery life the 30 gig by being a bit thicker/more ram, maybe the 80 gig could be a 1/10 of a inch thicker and a little larger battery for a few more hours of battery life?

Never would any of that happen, but that is MY dream and I CAN wish right? I hope so, but I won't be dissapointed either way or have my hopes set too high.

The only way I could imagine apple dissapointing at their 30th anniversary event (and they didn't really dissapoint me that much on Feb. 28th because I wasn't expecting much considoring that it was such a small venue, small crowd, and not at the moscone center in front of thousands of people on a anniversary as extravigant as their 30th). That being said, the only thing that could dissapoint me it whatever being released being so desirable (which is very likely) and me not having the funds to get one and just wishing I could... I'll more likely be dissapointed that I can't get whatever released then being dissapointed by what is released.:cool:

[Multimedia]

Perfect timing.. I happen to be on vacation in Silicon Valley on the 1st, maybe I can go watch myself. Anyone know if 'civilians' are allowed into these things, or just devs and media peeps?Stricktly Invites only. I think iBooks and Full Screen Video iPod. iBook should be the Mini Specs, perhaps a little faster, Core Duo minimum with a screen. Probably only 2 USB 2 ports.

NOT 17" MBP yet. Saving that for NAB. FCP will be Universal by this event. But I dont' think the 17" MBP is ready yet as it needs a HD-DVD drive inside.

[revjay]

Here's hoping something as cool as a black Hi-Fi is introduced!:D

[eXan]

PowerBook G5! April Fools!:D

Quad 3 GHz 30-inch PowerBook G6! just for $100000

;)

[revjay]

Since its introduction, people have been commenting on what an unimpressive "new" product the Hi-Fi is. I went to the local Apple Store to check one out. The one thing about the Hi-Fi that really struck me as odd, was the huge chamber on the back that is supposedly for the six, D-cell batteries. Apple has proven itself to be the master of squeezing computer components into very tight spaces (please refrain from rude comments), with products like the Mac mini and the iMac. Why would they choose to waste so much real estate for batteries? I will tell you why. That space is the future home of Apple's "next great thing". Along with the next generation video iPod, Jobs is going to introduce a "media bar" that fits into the empty battery compartment of the iPod Hi-Fi, that turns the product into a media center. The product will be like an Apple-on-a-stick. It will have the same ports as the Mac mini, less the power connector and the optical line that are already on the Hi-Fi. This elongated version of a Mac mini will not have to contain a power supply, power switch, hard drive, nor, of course, speakers. There may even be space for some extra NAND flash memory to serve as the video data buffer between the docked iPod and the video output. This is how Steve is going to convince the videophiles that Apple is the product of choice.
:confused: Are you on drugs?
:confused: Why would :confused: they :confused: waste any :confused: effort :confused: on something :confused: 12 people :confused: would :confused: buy :confused: ?

[revjay]

it BETTER be better than february 28th. that made me want to vomit.
:rolleyes: (read sig.)

[mackeeper]

At the Special 30th Aniversary Event I want to see fireworks, literally.

I also want to see:

1. iPod AV 299
2. iBook AMD 1,000
3. iCar 20,000
4. MacCar Pro 60,000
5. iHouse 3,000,000 (w/Apple displays hanging from the ceilings in every room) (all white interior) (and the finest appliances ever)

[aswitcher]

Well, Apple should give us at least a weeks media conference heads up, so it shouldn't be too long now...

[maveness]

...a 13 inch iBook.

I love my iBook's small form factor (12 inch). Why would I want something bigger?

I don't do heavy-lifting with the iBook, its chief charm is that it's an inexpensive and stylish tool to accomplish my basic computing needs on the go.

I'd like: built-in iSight, decent graphics, and a Core Duo. Light and thin would be nice too.

[Multimedia]

I hope they come out with a cheap iBook (cheaper than $1000) - something that I could possibly afford. :oProbably $999 and $1299. :)

[BlizzardBomb]

Integrated graphics seems likely looking at the Mini, but who would spend sub-$1000 on a laptop to game with? :p

Well anyway I want to see:

13", Magsafe, Front Row and the same procs as the Mini.
Shuffles -> 2GB
Nano -> 4GB + 6GB
5G iPod -> 40GB and 80GB
Software Update that allows gapless playback on iPods please! :cool:
BT Mighty Mouse!

[mackeeper]

Integrated graphics seems likely looking at the Mini, but who would spend sub-$1000 on a laptop to game with? :p

Well anyway I want to see:

13", Magsafe, Front Row and the same procs as the Mini.
Shuffles -> 2GB
Nano -> 4GB + 6GB
5G iPod -> 40GB and 80GB
Software Update that allows gapless playback on iPods please! :cool:
BT Mighty Mouse!


That's weaksauce dude. Where's the fullscreen iPod? Where's the iCar? Think big.

[lvnmacs]

I am just hoping it's a 13" widescreen MacBook Pro with a looooooooooooooooooonger battery life!:D Is that too much too ask?

[kalisphoenix]

Hopefully Apple's going to release something at least mildly more interesting than the expected friggin' iBook.

I'll commit seppuku if it's not better than the 02/28 event. That made me want to ****ing *****-slap the ****** ******** out of that ***** and ******** **** down his throat. And then peel his skin off with a potato peeler one square inch at a time, dip the pieces in liquid nitrogen, and then stick them back on the wounds. And then neatly remove the deadened areas with a dull paring knife, dip a snow shovel in a mixture of sulfuric acid and rock salt, and fling it at him a couple times.

@eeee[]);;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;>

(that's my sarcasm sword)

[(L)]

will come out and do something absolutely crazy for April Fools' Day: he'll come out in a navy blue mock turtleneck!!!!

You heard it here first.

Lol. Actually, I was kind of hoping they'd do something fun for April Fool's as well as release products for their birthday. Or make a April Fool's joke of some sort, or have a sale, or something.

Only embarassing to Mac fanboys who need to get a life.

No kidding. "Oh really, they released new products? Wow how embarassing." That's such an inexplicable reaction. A lot of this is disappointment for expecting something tremendous when it wasn't the stage for such to begin with, and the rest of it is people mouthing off on first impressions of the Hi-Fi or integrated graphics of the least powerful computer in the line. Dorks.

Personally, I just got to test the Hi-Fi today. I've got to say, I couldn't test it long and it was in the crowded store, but nonetheless it easily rivals the Bose one, probably is better. I need to test it some more. Very good really, if people would get the wedgies out of their butts and look at it objectively.

[sam10685]

Integrated graphics seems likely looking at the Mini, but who would spend sub-$1000 on a laptop to game with? :p

Well anyway I want to see:

13", Magsafe, Front Row and the same procs as the Mini.
Shuffles -> 2GB
Nano -> 4GB + 6GB
5G iPod -> 40GB and 80GB
Software Update that allows gapless playback on iPods please! :cool:
BT Mighty Mouse!


this has nothing to do with ur post... just wanted to say i like ur icon thingy. this Revolution deal is going to kick-ass.

[(L)]

Since its introduction, people have been commenting on what an unimpressive "new" product the Hi-Fi is. I went to the local Apple Store to check one out. The one thing about the Hi-Fi that really struck me as odd, was the huge chamber on the back that is supposedly for the six, D-cell batteries. Apple has proven itself to be the master of squeezing computer components into very tight spaces (please refrain from rude comments), with products like the Mac mini and the iMac. Why would they choose to waste so much real estate for batteries? I will tell you why. That space is the future home of Apple's "next great thing". Along with the next generation video iPod, Jobs is going to introduce a "media bar" that fits into the empty battery compartment of the iPod Hi-Fi, that turns the product into a media center. The product will be like an Apple-on-a-stick. It will have the same ports as the Mac mini, less the power connector and the optical line that are already on the Hi-Fi. This elongated version of a Mac mini will not have to contain a power supply, power switch, hard drive, nor, of course, speakers. There may even be space for some extra NAND flash memory to serve as the video data buffer between the docked iPod and the video output. This is how Steve is going to convince the videophiles that Apple is the product of choice.

Umm, that is a good idea, really it is, but a bit farfetched. The battery slots are really for a pole-shaped computer? With no HDD? All the parts made to fit into cylindrical slots? On the other hand, to power a speaker system like that for long enough portably, you need some space for batteries. Your idea hinges on the premise that this necessary space was somehow a "waste" in terms of just using it for batteries, which is pure subjectivity on your part. I quite appreciate the idea that the Hi-Fi is semi-mobile, and can imagine that sort of thing being on the list of the Hi-Fi's advantages against competitors. Really, given the sound premise that Apple wanted to make the thing semi-mobile, the battery slots make perfect sense (who would make them, say, lumped together in a corner, which would easily be better for a cube-like computer to fit in?).

Speaking of videophiles, how many of you have 1080 HD TV's or screens? That's right - very few. It's really not that hard to hook up even a Mac Mini to a TV and get good quality, no different really from a DVD player. For videophiles, this may not be the greatest. But for a media center type thing, the Mac Mini is OK to Great. I can't imagine such being tied to a speaker system, when anybody with a 1080 HD capability would also have expensive speakers. Or not even 1080. Even for normal video, if it's on the TV and coming from a computer, it should be played through either TV's speakers or external speakers...not limited to the Hi-Fi. So why would the Hi-Fi suddenly be a media hub? Kind of absurd if you ask me.

[sam10685]

Integrated graphics seems likely looking at the Mini, but who would spend sub-$1000 on a laptop to game with? :p

Well anyway I want to see:

13", Magsafe, Front Row and the same procs as the Mini.
Shuffles -> 2GB
Nano -> 4GB + 6GB
5G iPod -> 40GB and 80GB
Software Update that allows gapless playback on iPods please! :cool:
BT Mighty Mouse!


ok, yes-- BT Mightymouse... i have a mighty mouse and a BT mouse and i love both. (((let's go apple...)))

[(L)]

4.01.06...

Honestly, I was not at all shocked or disappointed by the fact that there was no 6G iPod on the Feb. 28th event - the Hi-Fi and Mini came out, exactly as predicted, no surprise, nothing to be disappointed about. Except for fanboys that had delusions of 6G iPods because of the hoaxes made or those that want the Mac Mini to have all the features of an iMac, most of us probably understood that the 28th was not the ripe time for a new 6G iPod.

...But, Apple's anniversary on April Fool's Day would be. If they don't come up with the 6G iPod by then, which I doubt they'll fail but you never know...I'll be bummed. That, for once, would be a REAL let down, when everyone expected something big to come from Apple. I don't care if you release 13" MacBooks or whatever...keeping the iPod going is one thing that'll help people switch, especially to products like the 13". A 12" or 13" MBP would also be appreciated, but nothing like the 6G iPod.

[iPie]

New, Fun Products Next Week? 766 replies
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=181820

:eek: WARNING we are experiencing a massive collective déja vu episode(minus boombox and mac mini). Hold on to your <mice>.

:eek: DO NOT PANIC. The duration of this hallucination will last no longer than 4 weeks (many are hoping for 3!).

:eek: DO NOT PANIC. For those of you (us) who have become habituated, this episode will be immediately be followed by another:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=183335
Apple Feb 28th Media Event Coverage 712 replies

and so on...:D

[Josias]

I would like to see:

12 and 14" iBook/MacBook:
1.5/1.67 GHz , both Core Duo, no Core Solo!
Up to 2 GB RAM
60 & 80 GB HDD (5.400 rpm, available up to 120 GB)
X800 64 MB DDR
Widescreen (of course)
The same ports, but change the *********g 56k modem into a mic-port
MagSafe, same battery life (6 hours)
SuperDrive available in both models (8x DL)
Frontrow, no iSight

Please!!:D

I also think they will make that Bluetooth Mighty Mouse, and of course an updated Shuffle or Nano, no new widescreen iPod. They might include new AirPort Extreme systems with up to 108mbps, and maybe video compatible AirTunes. I don't think they will make any 12 or 17" MBP now, but that they both will come soon. The new PowerMac might come (and new Cinema Displays), perhaps with 3 GHz Dual Intel Xeon 2, but I don't really care. I hope Office 2006 is announced. 2004 is kinda old now, still good though. I don't hope they change the design of any computers, but i don't think they will. Perhaps they will with the PowerMac, but they haven't done so far with 3 out of 5 computer lines, so I think the iBook stays as it is.

[lorien]

Introducing the new "iThink therefore iAm"
Now you can plug the computer God gave you directly into the one Apple gave you! Starting at $999

[MacSA]

I hope they come out with a cheap iBook (cheaper than $1000) - something that I could possibly afford. :o

Unlikely... it seems Windows PC's are becoming cheaper while Apple hardware is going up in price.

[Hattig]

Let's not hype this one up, eh? Because you'll only be disappointed, and blame Apple for not delivering what you were dreaming would be introduced.

Anyway, it is a significant date in Apple's calendar.

If they've got the MacBook 13" mostly done, they'll introduce it.
Possibly alongside a MacBook Pro 13", which is the same hardware with more powerful discrete graphics and a different case.
If they've got a 4" Video iPod or whatever, they'll introduce it.

I don't think they'd do much more than that though.

[BlizzardBomb]

Unlikely... it seems Windows PC's are becoming cheaper while Apple hardware is going up in price.

In the UK anyway. Apple have been bumping up prices (ever so slightly) here for a while now, e.g Mac Mini - &#163;339 -> &#163;359, &#163;429 -> &#163;449, iMac - &#163;899 -> &#163;929 etc. US seems to get steady pricing though.

this has nothing to do with ur post... just wanted to say i like ur icon thingy. this Revolution deal is going to kick-ass.

Agreed :)

That's weaksauce dude. Where's the fullscreen iPod? Where's the iCar? Think big.

I wouldn't say that was a weak upgrade. I doubt a fullscreen iPod would be ready in time, but hey you never know!

I would like to see:
X800 64 MB DDR

If they could use that, they would of put one in the Mac Mini. An X1300 was the main candidate for the MacBook and the Mini, but as the Mini got Intel Integrated, that looks like the path Apple will take with it's entry-level computers.

[Squire]

It was disappointing because Apple invited only journalists to a 200-seat venue for "fun" product announcements... and yet somehow people on this site felt they were promised "life-changing" product announcements worthy of a 2000-seat venue open to the public :)

No, I think it was because an upgraded mini, some leather iPod cases, and a big speaker with an iPod dock aren't really what people thought Apple meant by "fun". Geez, even the media and analysts pegged it as a bit anti-climactic. I know what you mean though. A lot of people reacted like Apple had slaughtered their first born.

Back on topic: Does anyone remember the report of somebody at Apple (or a tipster with inside knowledge) saying that they recommended staying away from a MacBook Pro because something much better was imminent?

Maybe this is it.

-Squire

[zack.williams]

I hope to buy the new iBook, and i hope that it will have the following:

-White Cover
-Lighted Keyboard-Perfect for late nights since i am a student:cool:
-iSight and Front Row
-Dual Core
-6 hours or more of battery-thats one of the factors that made the iBook popular:D
60GB
13.3 widescreen or 12- the smaller the better!

the rest is up to Apple

[BlizzardBomb]

I hope to buy the new iBook, and i hope that it will have the following:

-White Cover
-Lighted Keyboard-Perfect for late nights since i am a student:cool:
-iSight and Front Row
-Dual Core
-6 hours or more of battery-thats one of the factors that made the iBook popular:D
-60GB
-13.3 widescreen or 12- the smaller the better!

the rest is up to Apple

Sounds like a great prediction to me. I'm pretty sure at least 4 of them would be true, iSight would be a bonus, but I think Front Row is pretty much guaranteed.

[BRLawyer]

It was disappointing because Apple invited only journalists to a 200-seat venue for "fun" product announcements... and yet somehow people on this site felt they were promised "life-changing" product announcements worthy of a 2000-seat venue open to the public :)

Yep, that's really stupid...in fact, recent reports and reviews state that the so-bashed iPod HiFi is not only selling well, but it's, indeed, the BEST offer out there for iPod companion speakers...

As for the event itself, it was just about "fun" products...including that expensive iPod case and great Intel Mac Mini, which is gonna sell like croissants also...

For the next one, I predict:

- Intel MacBooks (Core Single/IIG low-end, Core Duo/GPU high-end);
- New iPod AV with larger screen;
- 30th Anniversary Cube Mac with FrogDesign looks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You read it here first, from FD's site:

"We know Apple and Adobe are trying to recruit from frog because they consider our employees to be the best. Lucky for us, our frogs are quite happy in the pond."

Let the rumor fest begin!!!!!! :D

[firsttube]

I hope to buy the new iBook, and i hope that it will have the following:

-White Cover
-Lighted Keyboard-Perfect for late nights since i am a student:cool:
-iSight and Front Row
-Dual Core
-6 hours or more of battery-thats one of the factors that made the iBook popular:D
60GB
13.3 widescreen or 12- the smaller the better!

the rest is up to Apple

To me, it looks like the low end is going to be 1.5 ghz solo, possibly 1.66 duo for the higher end MBPish macbook. Will not have a backlit keyboard, but possibly BTO for the high end duo. Front Row is a given, but I'm not so sure about that iSight being built in, actually. A 5 hour battery would be expected. 60/80 gig hd's. 100 gig possibly bto, but I honestly don't see it. Will definitely be white, but possibly a black option? (given the ipod transition...)

Will definitely be slimmer than the current 12" iBook form factor, however Apple isn't going to release an $1199 or $1299 MacBook version of the $1999 MBP, with simply a slower processor and smaller screen, that would kill any new sales of the 15" MBP. No 12" option at all. Just my 2 cents.

Phil

[Piarco]

...a 13 inch iBook.

I love my iBook's small form factor (12 inch). Why would I want something bigger?

I don't do heavy-lifting with the iBook, its chief charm is that it's an inexpensive and stylish tool to accomplish my basic computing needs on the go.

I'd like: built-in iSight, decent graphics, and a Core Duo. Light and thin would be nice too.

1. 4:3 screens are a thing of the past - everything is moving to widescreen.
2. The height of the 13.3" (i.e. screen open) should be virtualy identical to the 12". Its going to expand by 0.65" either side to give the new aspect. Is this really going to be an issue for you? The MackBook Pro is thinner than the old PB's and has a look more in it, and is still low weight.
3. You want higher specs, but moan about the weight?
4. If you think the move to a 13.3" form factor is going to be too much for you to carry around...... its time to start doing some exercise :D ;)


I think it is high time the iBook users got their new baby. As an old PB owner I never cared about that (much the same way they got sick of our "but the PB is the pro line model, we need it first" whinging, but they really are left out in the cold at the moment. Time to bring 'em in to the Intel warmth.
As to what I hope to see...... well as I'm kinda bored with iPod announcements (which for me is saying something) I'd really like to see a tablet Mac - it would be of great use to me. And I do think something completely new will be announced. Which would be either the true video iPod (which I'd probably get at some point) or a MacTablet.... Here's hoping for the MacTablet...... in vain I suspect!

[BoyBach]

Hopefully Apple's going to release something at least mildly more interesting than the expected friggin' iBook.

I'll commit seppuku if it's not better than the 02/28 event. That made me want to ****ing *****-slap the ****** ******** out of that ***** and ******** **** down his throat. And then peel his skin off with a potato peeler one square inch at a time, dip the pieces in liquid nitrogen, and then stick them back on the wounds. And then neatly remove the deadened areas with a dull paring knife, dip a snow shovel in a mixture of sulfuric acid and rock salt, and fling it at him a couple times.

@eeee[]);;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;>

(that's my sarcasm sword)


You're scaring me :eek:

[weg]

AppleInsider reports (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1587) that Apple will hold a media event in conjunction with its 30th anniversary (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060309183950.shtml) on April 1, but that the date of the event may be just before or after April 1st since the day is a Saturday.


Don't dare to hype.. they'll probably just present a bag for the iPod Hi-Fi....

[BRLawyer]

Don't dare to hype.. they'll probably just present a bag for the iPod Hi-Fi....

Hehe, natuerlich..! But don't forget the Apple logo also, this counts a lot..! ;)

[bigandy]

i'm very interested to see what comes out. i suspect something groundbreaking, something no one's even expected, something that's been under wraps so well that even the people working on it don't know what it is.

something that's going to sell in the billions.

:rolleyes:

[BlizzardBomb]

i'm very interested to see what comes out. i suspect something groundbreaking, something no one's even expected, something that's been under wraps so well that even the people working on it don't know what it is.

something that's going to sell in the billions.

:rolleyes:

iPod socks 2.0? :eek:

[Platform]

This just better be sooo good...30 years...OS X, iPod, Mac general success this has to be great....

I'm hoping for a new Mac's...touch screen iPod, but most of all....some nice little add on for my Mac ;) :D

[Play Ultimate]

I'm not holding my breath for April 1 or 4 (more likely in my opinion than March 28).

Apple releases things on their own schedule or around major planned events. MacWorld, WWDC, MacWorld Paris?

So, yes, everybody knows that Apple will be coming out with new iBook replacements, new iPods, etc., we just don't know when. And based on Apple's history of celebrating their birthday or the birthday of the Mac, they have usually been no shows.

[gkarris]

Anyone know the feasability of putting the iPod hard drives in the new iBook? The new iBook is supposed to be even thinner and lighter and this would be achieved by using the iPod hard disks.

Also, they will probably announce something to debunk MS Origami:

http://news.com.com/Week+in+review+Origami+unwrapped/2100-1083_3-6048272.html

[AidenShaw]

I haven't seen much speculation about another TAM, like the Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh:

http://www.applefritter.com/images/spartacus-4518.jpg
http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=anniversary&performa=off&sort=date&order=ASC

I'd wouldn't be surprised to see another limited edition, expensive, "collector's edition" computer.

My guess would be an iMacIntel in a black anodized brushed aluminum case, with better graphics, 4 GiB RAM, 500GB disk, and maybe some other surprises (like the CPU heat piped to the aluminum case so that it was much quieter).

Maybe even move the power supply to an external brick so that it could be fanless - and eliminate most of that ugly blank space below the screen.

Include a coupon for a free upgrade to a Merom in the fall.
______________________________


Come on, y'all. Think different for the 30th!

[cablecartman]

gee.. i can hardly believe that this article qualifies as being an article.

of course Apple will be doing something big for their birthday... It's their 30th afterall!!

- iPod AV; almost a certain for April 1.. just because iPod is the killer product right now, and what better way to celebrate such a big occasion than with a new killer product?

- Macbook. it's already overdue and Steve has already made a big point of saying that half of their product line became Intel inside within 60days of their original annoucement at Macworld. the emphasis on the speed at which this happened seems to suggest to me that the other half of their product line won't be far away.

- Mac Pro. probably won't be delivered at their 30th bash. i'd say that they're holding out for 64bit Core chips, which won't make the April 1 deadline. still, who knows how deep the jobs/otellini friendship runs.. maybe apple will be the first partner to launch a Merom-based desktop.

[Elrond39]

Anyone know the feasability of putting the iPod hard drives in the new iBook? The new iBook is supposed to be even thinner and lighter and this would be achieved by using the iPod hard disks.

I wonder about this possibility.... Might be interesting. Would it leave enough room to add in a dedicated graphics card? Anyone with tech know-how care to conjecture on this?

[themacman]

Do you think we possibly coiuld get a new inclosure for hte Ibooks? Colors would be a nice option, kinda like that sony.

[BRLawyer]

I haven't seen much speculation about another TAM, like the Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh:

http://www.applefritter.com/images/spartacus-4518.jpg
http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=anniversary&performa=off&sort=date&order=ASC

I'd wouldn't be surprised to see another limited edition, expensive, "collector's edition" computer.

My guess would be an iMacIntel in a black anodized brushed aluminum case, with better graphics, 4 GiB RAM, 500GB disk, and maybe some other surprises (like the CPU heat piped to the aluminum case so that it was much quieter).

Maybe even move the power supply to an external brick so that it could be fanless - and eliminate most of that ugly blank space below the screen.

Include a coupon for a free upgrade to a Merom in the fall.
______________________________


Come on, y'all. Think different for the 30th!

This would be great indeed...I don't think Apple should spare efforts or costs for the 30th Ann. Mac...let it cost 20,000 grand, no problem; it's a collector's item, for heaven's sake!!!!! ;)

[MacQuest]

...maybe apple will be the first partner to launch a Merom-based desktop.

Conroe will be the Intel Core 64-bit chip for Apple's Mac Pro desktops.

Merom will be the Intel Core 64-bit chip for Apple's MacBook & MacBook Pro notebooks.

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060307170617.shtml

[iMeowbot]

Anyone know the feasability of putting the iPod hard drives in the new iBook? The new iBook is supposed to be even thinner and lighter and this would be achieved by using the iPod hard disks.
There have been ultralight ThinkPad and VAIO models that used those drives. They are still slower and more expensive than the more common 2.5" drives, and using them only starts to make sense when the machine is going for serious size and weight reduction (smaller keyboard and display, no internal optical drive, etc.)
I wonder about this possibility.... Might be interesting. Would it leave enough room to add in a dedicated graphics card? Anyone with tech know-how care to conjecture on this?
It's pretty much guaranteed that there won't be a separate graphics card, Apple didn't put one in the MacBook Pro.

If what you mean is a dedicated graphics processor, it's pretty much guaranteed that there will be one. Even the new Mac mini has one of those (few people seem to understand that the GMA950 is a dedicated GPU, that's why so many were surprised when the graphics performance turned out to be okay).

The question people really want to be asking is what GPU is used, and whether or not it has separate memory. Yes, that would fit, we know that because the MacBook Pro has an ATI processor with separate memory. No, the next iBook probably won't get that, because it costs more and GMA950 is good enough for a low end machine.

[mjstew33]

At the Special 30th Aniversary Event I want to see fireworks, literally.

I also want to see:

1. iPod AV 299
2. iBook AMD 1,000
3. iCar 20,000
4. MacCar Pro 60,000
5. iHouse 3,000,000 (w/Apple displays hanging from the ceilings in every room) (all white interior) (and the finest appliances ever)
:rolleyes:

[godbout]

I am too lazy to go and find the quote because I really don't know which page it was on but someone said that the MBP was pretty packed inside and they were speculating that maybe they would not be able to fit a dedicated video card in the MB. Well I was just surfing the ultraportable offerings from some other people and I found this:

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=1002354

This is a pretty sick computer... I think that many of us here would kill for a MBP with these exact specs (well maybe not kill but maim for sure ;) )

Anyways... if you are in the market for a PC laptop ;)

[ScottB]

I want to see them take out the modem and use the space for dedicated graphics or digital audio out, in the new new iBook that is. Dedicated meaning a video processor with its own memory.

[Josias]

I want to see them take out the modem and use the space for dedicated graphics or digital audio out, in the new new iBook that is.

Amen brother!!
I just hope that it's not two 13.3", because many people will want either 12 or 14". I would like widescreen though. Perhaps they could fit in branded speakers, like HP has done. My friend has a HP, and his JBL speakers in it are kick-ass!:cool:

[Surreal]

How about a 17" Macbook with FW800 and expresscard/54?

and this. (http://www.ati.com/products/MobilityRadeonx1800/index.html)

yeah, that concludes my wishlist...not that much really. but i would appreciate 4 slots for ram. yeah...that would alter my physiology.

[godbout]

How about a 17" Macbook with FW800 and expresscard/54?

and this. (http://www.ati.com/products/MobilityRadeonx1800/index.html)

yeah, that concludes my wishlist...not that much really. but i would appreciate 4 slots for ram. yeah...that would alter my physiology.

Agreed... that would be pimp :cool: ...

Oh and 2.16GHz standard of course...

[Elrond39]

If what you mean is a dedicated graphics processor, it's pretty much guaranteed that there will be one. Even the new Mac mini has one of those (few people seem to understand that the GMA950 is a dedicated GPU, that's why so many were surprised when the graphics performance turned out to be okay).

Woops... :o that's what I meant.

[BlizzardBomb]

Mac Pro. probably won't be delivered at their 30th bash. i'd say that they're holding out for 64bit Core chips, which won't make the April 1 deadline. still, who knows how deep the jobs/otellini friendship runs.. maybe apple will be the first partner to launch a Merom-based desktop.

Merom is a laptop chip. The only reason Yonah is in the iMac, is because of heat-issues. The Power Mac/Mac Pro will use Conroe, likely to be clocked at Dual 2.4Ghz+

[freeny]

I expect good things at this event (once it is officially announced of course). I am also hoping for a stock boost seeing how the past few weeks havent been all that good for us stock holders.

I would like the new iPod AV just for having;)

[AidenShaw]

This would be great indeed...I don't think Apple should spare efforts or costs for the 30th Ann. Mac...let it cost 20,000 grand, no problem; it's a collector's item, for heaven's sake!!!!! ;)
That's perfect - 65" iMac Pro (http://www.gadgetreview.com/2006/01/sharp-aquos-65-lcd-tv.html)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:VyliBfKuESvVqM:www.accenture.com/pic/ideas/outlook/3_2004/human.gifhttp://www.gadgetreview.com/uploaded_images/aquos-761521.jpg

[BlizzardBomb]

That's perfect - 65" iMac Pro (http://www.gadgetreview.com/2006/01/sharp-aquos-65-lcd-tv.html)

http://www.gadgetreview.com/uploaded_images/aquos-761521.jpg

Or a 42-inch ACD with WQUXGA (3840&#215;2400) resolution! For a mere $10,000! :p

[iMeowbot]

I am too lazy to go and find the quote because I really don't know which page it was on but someone said that the MBP was pretty packed inside and they were speculating that maybe they would not be able to fit a dedicated video card in the MB.
Apple could fit everything in there if they really wanted. It would be easier in an iBook model, since those generally have thicker cases. iBook will probably also omit things like the ExpressCard slot, which should free up a fair amount of space.

Still, I wouldn't expect to see separate video RAM; it's not as important as it was with the G4's slow bus, and Apple won't make their low end machine rival the specs of the high end unless there is no choice (the last little PowerBooks ended up so close to the iBooks because Apple were running out of options).

[d_and_n5000]

Great, one more computer I want and won't get;).

but really, I think this has something more to do than releasing new iBooks, or at least it will in the future. I don't like that the pro laptop and the consumer desktop are on the same specs. I think the time is coming for a realign of each brands focus. Get the iMac and iBook on the same page again, and when Conroe/Merom each come out, get the MacBook Pro switched to Merom and the Power Mac switched to Conroe(those are just notebook/desktop variants of essentially one processor, correct?). Then Apple should release an all-new notebook to match up with the Mac mini. A'course, an iBook may not need iMac specs, but realigning would make it sound a bit better to prospective switchers, at least. Think: If you were thinking about switching to Macs, wouldn't you think it a bit odd that the consumer desktop and the pro laptop are specced awfully similarly to each other? Plus, that would just make me happy.:)

[baddaddy]

Ok, I am throwing my 2 cents in...

The New Macbook, is going to be a a mac mini with a screen. Deal With it. If you want gaming buy a MBP. May or may not hav iSight, but I kinda think it will. I expect a redesign and new form factor, mag latches, etc..., but it's still a Mini-to-go.

Price Points $899 and $1099.



iPod AV touch screen and all. And everyone collectively goes oriwho? It night even do some light gaming.

Price Points

$399 and $499




iMovie Store of some kind. Probably opens with Disney (including Touchstone and Castle Rock) at first.




Maybe a new shuffle, it's due and the parts providers heard several weeks ago that they aren't making parts for the next incarnation.



No $10K computer (a'la 20th Anni Mac) No one want's to spend 10 grand on something that will be old tech in a couple of years! We've all grown since the ninety's.



No $100 leather covers withing 50 miles of the event. Steve's mommy stuck him in the corner for a week after that silly assed announcement.





All pro and semi pro software will be universal.




No iTab or Power Mac Pro....yet. Gotta save something for August don't we? besides, that bad boy needs a quad core and they aren't out till Aug/Sept.



Surprise Announcement....Airport AV.


Those are my amazing psychic predictions for this event.

[Josias]

I don't think there will be X1800 in the 17". not to be a killjoy, but what the ****** would you use FW800 for? External HDD with 500-2000 GB? And BTW, nobody can fit 4 ram-slots into a laptop, not even 17".

[Synapple]

Ok, I am throwing my 2 cents in...

The New Macbook, is going to be a a mac mini with a screen. Deal With it. If you want gaming buy a MBP. May or may not hav iSight, but I kinda think it will. I expect a redesign and new form factor, mag latches, etc..., but it's still a Mini-to-go.

Price Points $899 and $1099.



iPod AV touch screen and all. And everyone collectively goes oriwho? It night even do some light gaming.

Price Points

$399 and $499




iMovie Store of some kind. Probably opens with Disney (including Touchstone and Castle Rock) at first.




Maybe a new shuffle, it's due and the parts providers heard several weeks ago that they aren't making parts for the next incarnation.



No $10K computer (a'la 20th Anni Mac) No one want's to spend 10 grand on something that will be old tech in a couple of years! We've all grown since the ninety's.



No $100 leather covers withing 50 miles of the event. Steve's mommy stuck him in the corner for a week after that silly assed announcement.





All pro and semi pro software will be universal.




No iTab or Power Mac Pro....yet. Gotta save something for August don't we? besides, that bad boy needs a quad core and they aren't out till Aug/Sept.



Surprise Announcement....Airport AV.


Those are my amazing psychic predictions for this event.

I kinda agree with you... except for the price points.

Just gimme an A/V express and a movie store and I'll be settled!

[RollTide]

[QUOTE=baddaddy]Ok, I am throwing my 2 cents in...

The New Macbook, is going to be a a mac mini with a screen. Deal With it. If you want gaming buy a MBP.


The new Macbook is pretty much guaranteed to have a 64mb video card(at least) that works out good for games. 512 mb ram is fine, but can definetly be upgraded, the processor, if it is a core solo at 1.66 gigs or whatever will do fine. My hp notebook runs call of duty flawless and is barely 1 gig. I may be all wrong, but unless you buy a game that is made to push a computer to it's limit one should be fine. no hardcore stuff and it will run good

[baddaddy]

[QUOTE=baddaddy]Ok, I am throwing my 2 cents in...

The New Macbook, is going to be a a mac mini with a screen. Deal With it. If you want gaming buy a MBP.


The new Macbook is pretty much guaranteed to have a 64mb video card(at least) that works out good for games. 512 mb ram is fine, but can definetly be upgraded, the processor, if it is a core solo at 1.66 gigs or whatever will do fine. My hp notebook runs call of duty flawless and is barely 1 gig. I may be all wrong, but unless you buy a game that is made to push a computer to it's limit one should be fine. no hardcore stuff and it will run good


I agree with you. I just get sick of everyone wanting the ibook to be a hardcore gaming machine. Apple isn't going to throw in all the bells and whistles into its entry level laptop. My old emac was ok for gaming untill you tried to run a really graphic intensive game on it.



I really think apple wants this to be an entry level book, and not a portable iMac. I think a price cut will reflect that.

[RollTide]

[QUOTE=baddaddy][QUOTE=RollTide]


I agree with you. I just get sick of everyone wanting the ibook to be a hardcore gaming machine. Apple isn't going to throw in all the bells and whistles into its entry level laptop. My old emac was ok for gaming untill you tried to run a really graphic intensive game on it.



Yea the ibook, or whatever book will be fine for most of the shooters out there, maybr a few sims n stuff, but it will be capable all around for the average consumer, but then again that is who apple is targeting

[Surreal]

I don't think there will be X1800 in the 17". not to be a killjoy, but what the ****** would you use FW800 for? External HDD with 500-2000 GB? And BTW, nobody can fit 4 ram-slots into a laptop, not even 17".
umm...why wouldn't they put the X1800 as at least a BTO option?

FW800 - Fireface 800. Hard drive. using both with isochronus throughput (which eSATA does not have.)

and the RAM..yeah, i know...which is why it would change my physiology. i would be so overcome that it would alter my physical being. in other words...i KNOW it hasnt be...but before we say something without checking. (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Area-51_m7700/area-51_m7700_specs.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AREA51-M-7700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT) thick, but hey, if the 17" gained a few mm for the sake of 2 more RAM slots..i don't know many people who would complain. (out of those who would actually consider buying it.)

[puckhead193]

Lol. Actually, I was kind of hoping they'd do something fun for April Fool's as well as release products for their birthday. Or make a April Fool's joke of some sort, or have a sale, or something.

Apple have a sale, now that's an April fools joke right their ;)

[mashinhead]

Prepare to start whinning when those 13" iBooks come with IIG..

( Personally, I don't care - I'm hoping for dual cores!)


whats IIG? I just hope they have a dvi out option, or else i'm in powerbook territory, i just hate the ibook materials though, the keyboards on powerbooks, er sorry macbook pros, are great. I'm sure they'll have a dual core BTO option, but they this is really a transitition chip so i dont' know if i should wait til the end of the year.

[mozmac]

I want to see films. If they released films on iTunes, that would add HUGE value to the new Mac Mini.

[direzz]

i hope they lower the prices on the imacs.

[Multimedia]

I'm not holding my breath for April 1 or 4 (more likely in my opinion than March 28).

Apple releases things on their own schedule or around major planned events. MacWorld, WWDC, MacWorld Paris?

So, yes, everybody knows that Apple will be coming out with new iBook replacements, new iPods, etc., we just don't know when. And based on Apple's history of celebrating their birthday or the birthday of the Mac, they have usually been no shows.And the next MAJOR planned event is the NAB Sunday afternoon April 23rd Press Conference where they are more likely to present the 17" MacBook Pro along with the next version of Final Cut Studio. Only caveot is that this year is the 30th anniversary April 1. So because of that, any red herring could emerge in 3 weeks. There's no way to predict what special surprise Steve will show up with. I'm guessing MacBook and Full Screen Face Video iPod for the 30th event. Red Herring could be a MacTablet Computer. But I think the 17" MacBook Pro wants to wait until NAB where one of its primary target markets hangs out.

[zack.williams]

wouldnt it be awsome if that patient for a touch screen was actually for the new ibook, not the ipod? writing notes on the screen or something?

i am probably wrong...but what if?!?!:confused:

i like to think out of the box...:D

[lorien]

i'm very interested to see what comes out. i suspect something groundbreaking, something no one's even expected, something that's been under wraps so well that even the people working on it don't know what it is.

something that's going to sell in the billions.

:rolleyes:

He, he....Apple is hiring blind engineers now ;)

[Multimedia]

wouldnt it be awsome if that patient for a touch screen was actually for the new ibook, not the ipod? writing notes on the screen or something?

i am probably wrong...but what if?!?!:confused:

i like to think out of the box...:DThis may also point to an entirely new class of Mac - the MacTablet computer. They've been out for the PC for a while now. Apple is really quite behind on this front. Perhaps they needed Intel Yonah Core Duo to pull it off. :cool:

[ScottB]

whats IIG?
That's what I said until I thought Intel Intergrated Graphics.

[zack.williams]

i would like to hear some opinions on how long it will take from the release of the macbook till it starts shipping...i want it as sppn as possible, but how long?

[thinkdiffifdent]

A few here have expressed doubts as to whether the new iBook (whatever it is called) will have iSight. I'd be very surprised if it didn't. Apple wants its consumer audience to know that all new Macs that come with screens (i.e. laptops and iMacs) can do iChat video straight out of the box. It's not very Apple-like to mix and match over different models on features it's trying to make mainstream.

On the other hand, I'd not be at all surprised to see the modem go. Apple is taking the same approach there as it did with floppy discs. If you really need it, you can pay for it as an accessory.

[baddaddy]

i would like to hear some opinions on how long it will take from the release of the macbook till it starts shipping...i want it as sppn as possible, but how long?


I think it will ship same day.



If....and I know it's a big IF.....they do release the iTab, what does everyone think pricing on it will be?

[AidenShaw]

if the 17" gained a few mm for the sake of 2 more RAM slots...
2 GiB SO-DIMMs are sampling, and HP and IBM are mentioning them on their Yonah laptop pages.

[Surreal]

2 GiB SO-DIMMs are sampling, and HP and IBM are mentioning them on their Yonah laptop pages.

i am not complaining about the current situation regarding RAM...but 4 slots would be welcome in my opinion. ...i can't find nything about 2gb modules sampling...is there any info publicly available?

[jjd]

I don't get why Apple seems to have no intention of developing a pro-spec laptop smaller than 15". There is a healthy market for small form factor, powerful laptops in the PC world. Personally, I would pay up for a thin, light, hi-res, 12" Macbook pro. I cannot be alone in this. In fact I would also consider a 10-11" wide screen, a la the Vaio TX. Small, light and good battery with a decent (say 2 GHz Duo) chip and they could name their price.

[Peace]

I don't get why Apple seems to have no intention of developing a pro-spec laptop smaller than 15". There is a healthy market for small form factor, powerful laptops in the PC world. Personally, I would pay up for a thin, light, hi-res, 12" Macbook pro. I cannot be alone in this. In fact I would also consider a 10-11" wide screen, a la the Vaio TX. Small, light and good battery with a decent (say 2 GHz Duo) chip and they could name their price.

Could be way off base here but why would any "Pro" want to use a 12" laptop for work ?

Seems to me a real Pro would want a 15" for mobile work..This is why imho Apple is doing away with the 12" "Pro" laptop..aka 12" PowerBook and transitioning to the 12" Intel MacBook.

[ahlee]

I don't get why Apple seems to have no intention of developing a pro-spec laptop smaller than 15". There is a healthy market for small form factor, powerful laptops in the PC world. Personally, I would pay up for a thin, light, hi-res, 12" Macbook pro. I cannot be alone in this.
You're not alone - I want exactly that. I don't mind if the rumored 13" is in ballpark size of the 12" (which it sounds to be) but I hope they offer it, at least eventually, in a Pro enclosure. Or hopefully the new iBook's enclosure will be improved in quality, closer to the Powerbook style. The 12" Powerbook keyboard is much nicer than the equivalent iBook.

[jjd]

Could be way off base here but why would any "Pro" want to use a 12" laptop for work ?

Seems to me a real Pro would want a 15" for mobile work..This is why imho Apple is doing away with the 12" "Pro" laptop..aka 12" Powerbook.

Same reason they've wanted them for the past 4 years - portability. I travel every week with my 15" AlBook and its way too heavy. I need the grunt - I do not need the screen real estate. At home I have all the screen size I need. On a plane, in a coffee shop, meeting - I want small and light. Photojournalists for example need a fast processor and, lots of RAM and HDD capacity but also obviously have portability as a key requirement.

[iMeowbot]

I don't get why Apple seems to have no intention of developing a pro-spec laptop smaller than 15".
Remember that Apple haven't really said anything about compact models. All we have are the rumors, and those are frequently far off the mark.

[JW8725]

Lets hope its a new mac mini

[Sam*]

i want a 20GB Nano...but we all know thats not happening any time soon:rolleyes:

[Yvan256]

Prepare to start whinning when those 13" iBooks come with IIG..

( Personally, I don't care - I'm hoping for dual cores!)

Well, if the iBook does not uses the GMA950, I'll be upset that Apple crippled the Mac mini. If they can put something better in the iBook, they can do it for the Mac mini.

I'm still waiting to see WoW benchmarks between the two Mac mini (G4 vs Core Solo/Duo).

[Yvan256]

[...] The New Macbook, is going to be a a mac mini with a screen. Deal With it. If you want gaming buy a MBP. [...]

Why is it that people in the "Mac world" expect people to pay for a Pro machine to do gaming? A Gamecube doesn't cost 1000$US and it play games just fine. We're not asking for a 500$US GPU in the entry-level Macs, but we sure aren't happy with bottom-of-the-barrel integrated graphics. And from what I've read so far, the GMA950 is below the Radeon 9200 is some cases...


iPod AV touch screen and all. And everyone collectively goes oriwho? It might even do some light gaming.

An iPod that can also be a PDA? Add iCal, Address Book and perhaps Mail and Safari (802.11g chips don't cost that much, I think). The current iPod is fine for viewing PDA info, but doesn't allow entries/editing. Throw in a PDF viewer (basic "eBook" feature) and I'd be more than happy.

Gaming? Now that would be a nice feature, but not an expected one... Would open up a whole new market for games though (homebrew touch-screen games, hard to do on the Nintendo DS right now). Knowing Apple, an easy-to-use "game maker" would follow pretty soon.

[Yvan256]

[...] I'd wouldn't be surprised to see another limited edition, expensive, "collector's edition" computer.

My guess would be an iMacIntel in a black anodized brushed aluminum case, with better graphics, 4 GiB RAM, 500GB disk, and maybe some other surprises (like the CPU heat piped to the aluminum case so that it was much quieter).

Maybe even move the power supply to an external brick so that it could be fanless - and eliminate most of that ugly blank space below the screen. [...]

From a production perspective, a maxed-out iMac (20", Core Duo 2.16GHz, X1600/256MB, 2GB RAM, 500GB hard disk) with a special case such as anodized aluminum would be pretty easy to do (and cost a lot less do produce than redesigning a whole new computer).

[MacMosher]

Lets hope its a new mac mini
ah.... hate to shut you down but they came out with a new mac mini a month or so ago... chances of them coming out with a new one are very very slim.

It's almost a sure shot it will be the new iBook... but this whole thing is just speculation, no invitations were even sent out yet were they?

[iMeowbot]

Why is it that people in the "Mac world" expect people to pay for a Pro machine to do gaming?
The iMac isn't called a "pro" machine but it should have a decent enough GPU for some of the heavier games.

Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it.

[zap2]

Well, if the iBook does not uses the GMA950, I'll be upset that Apple crippled the Mac mini. I


Not true. if the iBook are higher priced, Apple might have room to loss some profit on Graphics

And if Apple does not do a 12'' MBP then a MacBook will likly cost more then the older 14'' iBook

[AidenShaw]

i am not complaining about the current situation regarding RAM...but 4 slots would be welcome in my opinion. ...i can't find nything about 2gb modules sampling...is there any info publicly available?
You get hits like http://www.infineon.com/cgi-bin/ifx/portal/ep/channelView.do?channelId=-64254&pageTypeId=17099

HP says at http://www.infineon.com/cgi-bin/ifx/portal/ep/channelView.do?channelId=-64254&pageTypeId=17099

Processor type
Intel® Core™ Duo Processors T2300 to T2600 or Intel® Core™ Solo Processor T1300

Memory description
min: 512 MB
max: 4096 MB

Lenovo/IBM says at http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=4611686018425151962&storeId=10000001&langId=-1&categoryId=2049168&dualCurrId=1000073&catalogId=-840

System memory
Memory (RAM) std/max[8] 1GB / 4GB
RAM slots total 2 SODIMM
RAM slots available 1 SODIMM
Memory speed 667 MHz
RAM type DDR2 SDRAM
Module specifications PC2-5300

This is typical when a new size DIMM hits the market, the specs might say it's available, but it's not listed in the BTO menu on the web store.

[Yvan256]

The iMac isn't called a "pro" machine but it should have a decent enough GPU for some of the heavier games.

Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it.

I'd love to buy the iMac. But without a display. So my choices are either the Mac mini or a PowerMac.

[Surreal]

You get hits like ...

ok, so i was looking for statements declaring the existence of 667mhz PC2-5300 so dimms.

this only hints at it...which is why i couldnt find it.

thanks.

[SurfSpirit]

That Apple must present the MacBook I think there's no doubt of it. The big issue is how it will be, cost and how soon.

I do believe the Cupertino Company will introduce MacBook on Aprils 1 as will present other new stuff.

MacBook is a computer in the low and medium segment, most of the specifications of the new MacMini are quite pleasant for a new "iBook", but regarding the graphic card for example I do expect better hardware on it, together with it's individual memory, at least 64Mb with honest 3d hardware acceleration.
And why is this a mater? Because large share of consumers for this segment are students, while they do want to play some game, they want to do some work mostly, CAD, Google Earth, and other flimsy 3D software. Not the state of the art 3D but minimum 3D capable computer is needed!

I am from Europe, Portugal, my University friends most of them use WinTel notebooks but there an increasing number of folks that are buying Macs, but none the less being from Science degrees we all need 3D capable machines.

I my self need to buy a portable computer, I am waiting for Aprils 1 but no more wait after that, I will purchase a MacBook only if it can run my indispensable apps, and they need 3D competent graphic card.

The price tag, well that worries me, because of what I can buy, hardware mostly of course, but even way comparable:

Price is in Euros:

Asus - A6JC 1.83 Centrino Duo: 1339,99€ (These is the same price for the current iBook G4 14 here in Portugal")

15.4 TFT (WXGA) Color Shine- Intel Core Duo T2300 - NVIDIA Geforce 7300 256mb Turbo Cache - 1024MB (512X2) DDRII SDRAM 533MHZ- 80GB HDD - DVD RW SuperMulti Double layer - 802.11g wireless LAN- webcam 1.3mp -Rede 10/100/1000 - WinXP Home


These specifications make me think about witch computer will I buy, and if buying a PC has the bad side of Windows, in the other hand I will have a compatible machine with all the software I need for my studies!

Will it run Windows XP or Vista on MacBook?
Will MacBook have a decent graphic card for 2006?
Will it be a decent price range for them?

If my concerns will be answer I will buy one! If not, well maybe will have to use Wintel!

[iris_failsafe]

PowerMac's and new version of Final Cut Studio :p


For that you are going to wait for April at NAB- FCP Extreme is set to make its debut...

[macdong]

i'm very interested to see what comes out. i suspect something groundbreaking, something no one's even expected, something that's been under wraps so well that even the people working on it don't know what it is.

something that's going to sell in the billions.

:rolleyes:

unidentified flying saucer?

[Yvan256]

If the Intel iBook (or MacBook, though they did keep the "iMac" name) has a decent GPU (and with 64MB dedicated memory), will it support dual-screen like the new iMac? (with no hack)

If it does, I'm selling my 12" PowerBook (last 12" G4 model) and buying an iBook. I might even have money left from the switch.

[AidenShaw]

this only hints at it...which is why i couldnt find it.
"hints" because there's limited availability. They exist, but not in quantities so that HP/IBM/Dell/Apple list them in their BTO menus, and you can't find them at http://newegg.com - but in a handful of weeks they will be more visible, and in a handful of months they'll be easy to find.

Of course, they'll be expensive at first (expect a 2 GiB SO-DIMM to be 3 times the price of a 1 GiB SO-DIMM).

[MacinDoc]

Well, if the iBook does not uses the GMA950, I'll be upset that Apple crippled the Mac mini. If they can put something better in the iBook, they can do it for the Mac mini.
If you saw the disassembly pics of the Mac Mini, you may have noticed that there was absolutely no room for a video acceleration card in the case. In a 13.3" iBook, there should be enough room.

[Janneman]

I’m also hoping for a new iBook/MacBook. Now the recent news of Apple investigating touch screen technology which can register multiple contact signals got me thinking… Sure a “tablet Mac” or large touch screen video iPod would be nice, but haven’t the last couple of years shown us that tablet pc’s aren’t as popular as the industry would have wanted them to be? And a touch screen iPod could have surely been developed and deployed long before the new multi-touch sensing technology, no? Now we also control our pods with just one finger movement or click.

A revolutional product I’d like to see being developed by Apple would be a new keyboard!
I know, might sound dull. But imagine a touch screen keyboard (that of course would benefit from the multi-touch sensing technology), without physical buttons. Your keyboard could be customized to your own liking, different settings for each program you use. It could serve as a next generation ‘joystick’ for gaming, or imagine adjusting your photos in Photoshop with a keyboard that actually let’s you move the colour sliders with your fingers … Granny wants to use the computer and switches to her own account, the keyboard now enlarges the buttons for her viewing pleasure. Or maybe your mother prefers an “AZERTY” keyboard layout to your preferred “QWERTY”. Pressing one button could open up a miniature set of other buttons. Keyboard backlighting would get a new meaning, heck, Apply could even build in a mini speaker that would make a ‘click’ sound to acknowledge that you pressed a ‘key’.

An input device like this would surely redefine ‘interface customisation’. And seeing as it would sit on your desktop, you needn’t worry about getting it scratched in your pants. :P
Nor would finger smudges be that annoying since this is your input device, and not the output device (computer screen) that you stare at all the time.

Now that’s a product I’d call 30th anniversary worthy!

*dreams on* >.<

[weg]

Good. I'm getting a new ibook as soon as they come out.

No more iBooks... it will be called Le MacBook.

[mcmillan]

If you saw the disassembly pics of the Mac Mini, you may have noticed that there was absolutely no room for a video acceleration card in the case. In a 13.3" iBook, there should be enough room.
Still, a 13.3" iBook is very small, seeing something better than a GMA950 card would piss Intel Mac Mini users, considering that they also raised the price to $599.

[berkleeboy210]

Steve's going to announce that they are switching to AMD :rolleyes:

[AidenShaw]

Steve's going to announce that they are switching to AMD :rolleyes:
APRIL FOOL'S !!!

That's not going to happen, but it's funny!

[Yvan256]

Steve's going to announce that they are switching to AMD :rolleyes:

That wouldn't really be a switch. AMD makes x86 processors just like Intel.

[DPazdanISU]

Since its introduction, people have been commenting on what an unimpressive "new" product the Hi-Fi is. I went to the local Apple Store to check one out. The one thing about the Hi-Fi that really struck me as odd, was the huge chamber on the back that is supposedly for the six, D-cell batteries. Apple has proven itself to be the master of squeezing computer components into very tight spaces (please refrain from rude comments), with products like the Mac mini and the iMac. Why would they choose to waste so much real estate for batteries? I will tell you why. That space is the future home of Apple's "next great thing". Along with the next generation video iPod, Jobs is going to introduce a "media bar" that fits into the empty battery compartment of the iPod Hi-Fi, that turns the product into a media center. The product will be like an Apple-on-a-stick. It will have the same ports as the Mac mini, less the power connector and the optical line that are already on the Hi-Fi. This elongated version of a Mac mini will not have to contain a power supply, power switch, hard drive, nor, of course, speakers. There may even be space for some extra NAND flash memory to serve as the video data buffer between the docked iPod and the video output. This is how Steve is going to convince the videophiles that Apple is the product of choice.

Stop sniffing glue. It's bad for you.

[puuukeey]

I say can the ibook. and give us something cheap that proffesionals will still be able to use. A not sucky, OLED FLEXIBLE, consumer likable, origami killing, cool-factor 9000, geek-chic, tablet. with translucent plastic keyboard overlay! stick a knife in the face of every cheerleader apple user ever.

look at apples line... whos getting the short end of the pipe line geeks or automitons??

Pro------------------
MacBookPro
G5 (future mactel)

consumer--------------
le petit macbook
imac
emac
minimac

teenaged girls--------------
ipod petro
ipod nano
ipod video
ipod this
ipod that
ipod accessories

[dernhelm]

I hope it isn't something "fun". :p

[thejadedmonkey]

All I want is an iBook with a backlit keyboard. that's all...the iBook they have now, replace the PPC with a Intel, give it a backlit keyboard, maybe a new form, and I'd snap it up.

[MacinDoc]

Still, a 13.3" iBook is very small, seeing something better than a GMA950 card would piss Intel Mac Mini users, considering that they also raised the price to $599.
A 13.3" iBook would be twice as wide and a bit deeper than the Mac Mini, although not as thick. Like the MacBook Pro, it should have room for a GPU, and the added cost for the sort of card Apple usually puts into the iBook would only be $30-$50.

And, unfortunately, the price of the iBook, like that of the Mini, will probably increase to accomodate the increased cost for the Core processor.

[dernhelm]

That wouldn't really be a switch. AMD makes x86 processors just like Intel.

Except they perform better, are true 64 bit, and consume less power. Otherwise, just the same.

[dernhelm]

I'm hoping for a 30th anniversary mac. One that can sit right alongside the 20th anniversary mac as being outrageously expensive and unbelievably cool.

I won't get one or anything, but that's what I'm hoping to see.

It's a little like going to the North American Auto Show and ogling all the prototypes. You know they'll never hit production, but you're just fascinated by what they can achieve.

[MacinDoc]

Except they perform better, are true 64 bit, and consume less power. Otherwise, just the same.
OK, which comparably priced AMD chips perform better and consume less power than Core Duo chips?

[512ke]

Here's the kinda stuff I want on April 1:

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/...01244895.shtml

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/...44895_01.shtml

I think some of the ideas are cool.

[mackeeper]

Here's the kinda stuff I want on April 1:

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/...01244895.shtml

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/...44895_01.shtml

I think some of the ideas are cool.

Your links don't work. I still am waiting for an iCar.

[512ke]

I'll try again with the links. Sorry the other ones didn't work.

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895.shtml

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895_01.shtml

Any better?

512ke

[Multimedia]

All I want is an iBook with a backlit keyboard. that's all...the iBook they have now, replace the PPC with a Intel, give it a backlit keyboard, maybe a new form, and I'd snap it up.Ain't gonna happen. Backlit keyboards are how Apple sells MacBook Pros.

[MacQuest]

ah.... hate to shut you down but they came out with a new mac mini a month or so ago...

Feb. 28th, the last day of February this year, is when the new Intel Mac Mini's were introduced. Today is Saturday, March 11th.

11 days ago the new Intel Mac Mini was introduced. That is not even close to "a month or so ago".

Also, I agree with you that "no", the Mac Mini will not be updated within [or close to] a month of it's release.

Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it.

You just contradicted yourself. The distinction between the "consumer" and "pro" lines is not simply "tacking Pro on there", but the fact that "you get more if you pay more."

Also, the ability to video span on the pro line, as opposed to only video mirror on the consumer line, has been a big enough distinction for a lot of people to decide between a PowerBook and an iBook, as well as the other list of differences.

Oh, and don't even start with the "you can hack the gpu to enable video spanning on the consumer line" junk, because even though we higher level computer users can, most iBook level users aren't even going to want to try to deal with such a thing.

[iEdd]

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895.shtml
*Goes warm and fuzzy*. I'd so buy one of them. :p
EDIT: Haha.. I like dashboard translator, that page says:
Odd thought strange thought? 网 friend? Power? ? Cloth 斯 献
Yosikazu

? Under one cloth 斯? ? ? 做 什? ?

[iMeowbot]

You just contradicted yourself. The distinction between the "consumer" and "pro" lines is not simply "tacking Pro on there", but the fact that "you get more if you pay more."
No, I didn't contradict myself. Under your misinterpretation, the iMac is a "pro" machine because you get more than what comes with the Mac mini, and it costs more.
Also, the ability to video span on the pro line, as opposed to only video mirror on the consumer line, has been a big enough distinction for a lot of people to decide between a PowerBook and an iBook, among other distinctions.
The Intel iMac does spanning, so is it a "pro" machine?

[mackeeper]

I'll try again with the links. Sorry the other ones didn't work.

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895.shtml

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895_01.shtml

Any better?

512ke

Ahhhh...that's NICE! I'd definatly get that iPod. Nice looking iBook but i think it should be ALL white, not gray.

[MacQuest]

These specifications make me think about witch computer... maybe will have to use Wintel!

Yes, a wintel is a "witch" computer.

Hopefully the new 13' MacBook will meet your requirements and you can switch from the evil miCrapsoft witch product.

;)

[MacQuest]

No, I didn't contradict myself. Under your misinterpretation, the iMac is a "pro" machine because you get more than what comes with the Mac mini, and it costs more.

You are the one misinterpreting here. I never said that a higher price distinguishes a product line, but that features do and Apple can categorize it's products however it wants to.

You were the one who said "Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it."

Apple's consumer line now has an entry/replacement computer level Mac Mini and the mid level AIO [All In One] iMac. However, there is still a very clear distinction between the consumer Mac and the professional Mac though. Primarily upgradeability, which most consumers don't care about nearly as much as pro users do.

The Intel iMac does spanning, so is it a "pro" machine?

As you can see in my post, I was specifically pointing out the iBook vs. the PowerBook. Although it is great that the iMac now supports video spanning, that feature alone does not put it in the professional category.

I was simply stating that it is a consideration that has made people choose a PowerBook over an iBook, or if that feature was not needed by the buyer, feel comfortable with their iBook purchase. That feature is [on the notebook] just one of many distinctions between the consumer and professional Mac.

I really hope they allow video spanning with the new MacBooks though.

[kugino]

it's not always clear to me if people post things they think we WILL see or things they WANT to see. take the purported macbook, for instance...we want to see a 13.3" laptop with wide screen, a dedicated video card, etc. but what we will see is a 12-13" laptop with an integrated card (yes, i firmly believe this)...we want it to be $999, but it will be $1099. we want it to have DVI out but it won't. i still think it will be a cool machine, but with integrated isight, a core single (and/or duo) chip, and better screen, it's not going to be cheap.

[MacQuest]

it's not always clear to me if people post things they think we WILL see or things they WANT to see. take the purported macbook, for instance...we want to see a 13.3" laptop with wide screen, a dedicated video card, etc. but what we will see is a 12-13" laptop with an integrated card (yes, i firmly believe this)...we want it to be $999, but it will be $1099. we want it to have DVI out but it won't. i still think it will be a cool machine, but with integrated isight, a core single (and/or duo) chip, and better screen, it's not going to be cheap.

It's great that you have posted what you think we WILL see and the things that you WANT to see. As you stated above, "we will see" a 12-13" laptop priced at $1099 and firmly believe that it will have an integrated [graphics] card. A pretty safe bet considering that everyone else is predicting those same sizes, price point [+/- $100], and the integrated graphics debate seems to be 50/50. All your other speculation on the other stuff is pretty much in line with at least half of the other people's speculation on this thread and these forums in general.

But you re-enforced your belief by stating "what we will see...". So i guess we can all stop speculating on these rumor forums now because you have already told us "what we will see".

My point is that you basically have blasted everyone for posting what they think and want, when you've just done the same thing.

But wait, I am going to state what we will see:
- $999 - 13.3" MacBook [Combo drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

- $1199 - 13.3" MacBook [Super drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

I am here to tell everyone that "WE WILL NOT SEE" a Core Solo in any Mac other than the low end Mac Mini... but we might.

If we do:

- $999 - 13.3" MacBook [Core Solo, Combo drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

- $1199 - 13.3" MacBook [Core Duo, Super drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

Basically this would be the same spec and price difference we have now between the Mac Mini Core Solo w/Combo drive for $599 and the Mac Mini Core Duo w/Super drive]

I am absolutely SURE that we MAY see these things. Remember, you heard it here FIRST... or 384,295th.


In case you forgot, we are on "MacRumors."

[iShane]

I'll try again with the links. Sorry the other ones didn't work.

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895.shtml

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895_01.shtml

Any better?

512ke


Holy Crap that stuff is amazing.

I don't know if anyone else noticed this but on the second link like a few down there's something that looks exactly like the MacBook Pro and when the Video iPod was first rumored it too was on a Chinese forum and then it came out.....hmm looks to me like these Chinese people on on to something. :p ;)

Edit: Okay, I just noticed something pretty cool at the bottom of the second link all the was on the left theres a picture of the (rumored) video iPod and then if you scroll down you see the same pictures that leaked out JUST before the actual video iPod was released...Hmm.

[MacinDoc]

it's not always clear to me if people post things they think we WILL see or things they WANT to see. take the purported macbook, for instance...we want to see a 13.3" laptop with wide screen, a dedicated video card, etc. but what we will see is a 12-13" laptop with an integrated card (yes, i firmly believe this)...we want it to be $999, but it will be $1099. we want it to have DVI out but it won't. i still think it will be a cool machine, but with integrated isight, a core single (and/or duo) chip, and better screen, it's not going to be cheap.
I agree with you that $1099 will likely be the price. No backlit keyboard. No monitor spanning. As for the rest, well, we'll see...

[iMeowbot]

You are the one misinterpreting here.
No, not at all. Let's look:
I never said that a higher price distinguishes a product line, but that features do and Apple can categorize it's products however it wants to.
That is not what you wrote. What you did write was:
The distinction between the "consumer" and "pro" lines is not simply "tacking Pro on there", but the fact that "you get more if you pay more."
It's right there in black and #fafafa. Either there is a genuine distinction between "consumer" and "pro" or it is marketing hooey. Make up your mind.
You were the one who said "Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it."
Yes, and then you contradicted that, and now you are agreeing with it. Make up your mind.
Apple's consumer line now has an entry/replacement computer level Mac Mini and the mid level AIO [All In One] iMac. However, there is still a very clear distinction between the consumer Mac and the professional Mac though. Primarily upgradeability, which most consumers don't care about nearly as much as pro users do.
Ah, so it is an ephemeral distinction that changes from week to week! Since the CPU in the iMac can be upgraded, but the MacBook Pro doesn't offer that option, then the iMac is a more professional machine? Of course not, that's silly.

So what makes a pro machine pro, the applications? Nope. The "consumer" iMac can run all the same software as the "professional" MacBook Pro. The two are equally capable of running the same applications for the same users. The distinction is marketing fluff.

As you can see in my post, I was specifically pointing out the iBook vs. the PowerBook. Although it is great that the iMac now supports video spanning, that feature alone does not put it in the professional category.
No, only marketing fluff does that. Every day, real world professional work is done on low end Mac hardware, and also on years-old higher-end Mac hardware that is seriously outclassed by today's low end. In fact, those expensive Quad G5 machines are a total waste of money for professionals who work primarily with software like Illustrator that sticks to one CPU.
I was simply stating that it is a consideration that has made people choose a PowerBook over an iBook, or if that feature was not needed by the buyer, feel comfortable with their iBook purchase. That feature is [on the notebook] just one of many distinctions between the consumer and professional Mac.
The problem is that the "many distinctions" don't fall into a simple clear line between "consumer" and "professional". The features of the high end machines will be wasted on most professionals, and many consumers will be dissatisfied with the limitations of the lower end machines. The names given to the machines have little to no bearing on what is the appropriate hardware for the user.

[Plecky]

I’m also hoping for a new iBook/MacBook. Now the recent news of Apple investigating touch screen technology which can register multiple contact signals got me thinking… Sure a “tablet Mac” or large touch screen video iPod would be nice, but haven’t the last couple of years shown us that tablet pc’s aren’t as popular as the industry would have wanted them to be? And a touch screen iPod could have surely been developed and deployed long before the new multi-touch sensing technology, no? Now we also control our pods with just one finger movement or click.

A revolutional product I’d like to see being developed by Apple would be a new keyboard!
I know, might sound dull. But imagine a touch screen keyboard (that of course would benefit from the multi-touch sensing technology), without physical buttons. Your keyboard could be customized to your own liking, different settings for each program you use. It could serve as a next generation ‘joystick’ for gaming, or imagine adjusting your photos in Photoshop with a keyboard that actually let’s you move the colour sliders with your fingers … Granny wants to use the computer and switches to her own account, the keyboard now enlarges the buttons for her viewing pleasure. Or maybe your mother prefers an “AZERTY” keyboard layout to your preferred “QWERTY”. Pressing one button could open up a miniature set of other buttons. Keyboard backlighting would get a new meaning, heck, Apply could even build in a mini speaker that would make a ‘click’ sound to acknowledge that you pressed a ‘key’.

An input device like this would surely redefine ‘interface customisation’. And seeing as it would sit on your desktop, you needn’t worry about getting it scratched in your pants. :P
Nor would finger smudges be that annoying since this is your input device, and not the output device (computer screen) that you stare at all the time.

Now that’s a product I’d call 30th anniversary worthy!

*dreams on* >.<

Your dream has just became one of mine, and is by one of the best far-fetched 30th anniversary ideas I've heard. I thought of a Nintendo DS meets MacBook Pro. Although I wonder about the lack of tactile feedback, just like I wonder about a iPod AV lacking it since Apple users have always priased the "click wheel" over things without tactile feedback... But if tactile feedback is proven overrated like shown in the Nintendo DS over Sony PSP - then you might be onto something. Definitely could be cooler then that dumb optimus keyboard that will never be released and if it is will cost hundreds of dollars if not close to a grand. Great thinking, Apple should hire you - You've got my support and I just had to requote that so it shows up again in this thread, awesome AWESOME idea!:D

[Plecky]

Follow up to my previous post:

Seems that those websites with mock-ups and whatnot of possibly future laptops including the MacBooks, MacTablets, iPads, etc. has something similar called the MacBook DSP and a couple other images just like that. Seeing it, it seems pretty dang sweet and I wonder if it could be done - and by that I mean - done well. If so, that could be so very awesome but I'm sure it would make the machine thicker, battery life worse, and who knows if its even possible with everything underneath the keyboard and heat issues. Although if had something like that with a Ultra-Low-Voltage 1.5 core duo or something... Oh I'm just still dreaming, but I'd love to see such in action - I just fear that it may be trying to innovate too far. But then again, people wondered about the DS and look how that did with against the PSP. People are now wondering about the revolution and its controller, we'll see how that goes in the next Gen. war. But sounds like if all goes well, Nintendo could prove a good role model to apple... Nintendo is quite innovative, even if it doesn't work out so well for them some of the time. Although if the lines ever crossed and there was a platform war against MS/XboX, Sony/Playstation, could Apple team with Nintedo as a pretty sweet underdog tag team? Don't get me wrong, I own a XboX which I love very much (original, not 360 due to lack of funds, as further explained by my signature). I also owned the original PSX (PS1?) and loved that. But next Gen. I may have to spread my love to Nintendo for the first time since the N64 (at least as far as consoles go). That being said, reasons being the catalog of old game nestaulgia, pricepoint (aka cheapest), and wildcard factors like the controller and just crazy stuff in general. But if a DS can outsell a PSP, a iPod can outsell a Walkman, then maybe a Revolution can outsell a PS3. I've totally taken this post way off track of the thread, and I apologize. A negative effect caused by the current-time and my low-level of sleep the night before. Now to use that creativity to get back on track and discuss the 30th anniversary, Mac Rumors, and the (please Steve?) 30th Anniversary Mac.:o

[MacQuest]

I'm not gonna nitpick/debate this with you because you're waffling on a contradictory statement you made:

"Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it."

It's right there.

- So is consumer vs. pro "pure marketing fluff" like you said in the 1st sentence?
- Or, is there an actual [tangible or not] distinction between products because "you get more if you pay more" like you said in your 2nd sentence which contradicts your 1st sentence?
- Or, is you're 3rd sentence the one you want us to retain stating that "Pro is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy" which contradicts your 2nd sentence, but coincides with your 1st.

Inquiring minds want to know that if "That's about the size of it.", which position is "it"?

For some reason I feel like going to IHOP for some waffles.

It's okay to admit you're wrong or simply mis-worded something. Here I'll go first:

I'll admit I was unaware that the new iMacs aren't crippled in regards to the video spanning capabilities. Again though, I was specifically referencing the iBook vs. the PowerBook and stand by my affirmation that it still is a big enough distinction [among others] between the consumer line and the pro line to make people decide either between an iBook or a PowerBook/MacBook Pro, depending on whether they don't need it or if they do need/want it.

Granted, the lines are further blurred between the consumer and pro lines because of this, but not eliminated. As i stated previously, i would really like Apple to enable video spanning in the new MacBook.

SEE?! It's not that hard for a reasonable person to stand by what they believe/know, while at the same time being able to admit that their belief/knowledge was either incorrect or simply mis-worded.

Jump into the "Humility Pool' with me and afterwards order up a slice of "Humble Pie" with a sprinkle of "This is just a frickin' rumor site".

Here, I'll even put a cherry on top:

I thank "iMeowbot" for having learned that the new iMacs allow video spanning!!!
*gives sloppy, "Big Gay Al" kiss to iMeowbot's [upper] left cheek*

Of course that cherry also goes on top of the whip cream that goes on top of the big stack of IHOP waffles.

=)

Back OT.

Why yes, I believe the following to be true:
- $999 - 13.3" MacBook [Combo drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

- $1199 - 13.3" MacBook [Super drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

[age234]

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895_01.shtml
That dual-screen laptop is brilliant!

It wouldn't get crap for battery life, but look how useful it'd be! Amazing!

Whoever posted earlier about the touchscreen keyboard, maybe you're onto something...

[512ke]

Don't meant to create multiple conversations going at once here but...

I agree w/ the above. The dual screen laptop is genius.

And here is the Babelfish translation of text from that page. This is about Apple. It's kind of brilliant and ludicruous at the same time in translation from the Chinese:

"[Apple Computer] Wants to be in the lead to the field, the outstanding creativity is absolutely cannot lack, has the unique feasible outstanding creativity to be able to let own product eagerly anticipate the entire market the direction of advance, if does not have it, only can look other merchant the back, in was full is on the dust path goes all out to pursue."

[iMeowbot]

I'm not gonna nitpick/debate this with you because you're waffling on a contradictory statement you made:
Seriously, learn to read. You simply don't recognize a contradiction when you see one.

There is one thing that is true: The more expensive models have more features than the less expensive models.

There is one thing that is not true: "Pro" means something useful.

If you have read the thread, then you will know why this statement was made: a poster was complaining that high end games needed "pro" hardware. That such machines would be desired for gaming puts the lie to any assertion that "pro" is anything more than Apple marketing fluff.

[puuukeey]

I would imagine the only problem with typing on a flat surface is not being able to feel the keys.

still, I'm down for turning the lower half (between latch and keyboard) of my laptop into a touch screen. most definately the touch pad.

[puuukeey]

the greatest would be if steve walked on stage and said... "ya know, we had something completely different planned for our aniversary. but I'm a macrumors addict and these people mocked up some great apple products. much better than what we had"

[iHeartTheApple]

17" MBP? Maybe? Please? I dunno, maybe it's still too early to see this one. We can hope, eh? :D

[Bubbasteve]

Wow, before this story was even posted i said on My Podcast too look for an Apple event either March 28th or April 4th. I'm leaning towards March 28th so they can have some of the products in stores by April 1

That would be one great Birthday present... watching Steve Job present the Macbook and the "iNewton"

[MacQuest]

Seriously, learn to read. You simply don't recognize a contradiction when you see one.

There is one thing that is true: The more expensive models have more features than the less expensive models.

There is one thing that is not true: "Pro" means something useful.

If you have read the thread, then you will know why this statement was made: a poster was complaining that high end games needed "pro" hardware. That such machines would be desired for gaming puts the lie to any assertion that "pro" is anything more than Apple marketing fluff.

You mean this post:
Why is it that people in the "Mac world" expect people to pay for a Pro machine to do gaming? A Gamecube doesn't cost 1000$US and it play games just fine. We're not asking for a 500$US GPU in the entry-level Macs, but we sure aren't happy with bottom-of-the-barrel integrated graphics. And from what I've read so far, the GMA950 is below the Radeon 9200 is some cases...

Seriously, learn how to write and post. I recognize contradictions very easily, which is why I pointed yours out.

[MacQuest]

[Mods. Please delete]

[photomaniac]

I want to see a portable ipod looking device that you can bring a "keynote" with you to a meeting, which will have a video/audio out port. hmmm.... maybe it will allow a slide out keyboard for last minute changes etc... and weighs about 2lbs; and you can put it in your pocket! ...and of course has bluetooth, wireless, and a PCMCIA card.

...kind of a mini mini portable computer - Now that would be very useful!

[jacobj]

Anyone noticed the stores are down?

[mad jew]

Anyone noticed the stores are down?


Gotta be maintenance though. :o

Aussie Store is down too FWIW.

[MacQuest]

If the Intel iBook (or MacBook, though they did keep the "iMac" name)...

:rolleyes:

1. iMac has the name Mac in it.
2. iBook doesn't.
3. Steve Jobs stated [MWSF '06] that products that run Mac OS should include Mac in their names.
4. iBook will be re-named MacBook because it runs Mac OS and therefore should have Mac in the name.
5. Makes sense.
6. Do we have to draw pictures?

Yes, I hope they drop the 'i" from iMac as well. Probably won't happen until a re-design though.

[EricNau]

:rolleyes:

1. iMac has the name Mac in it.
2. iBook doesn't.
3. Steve Jobs stated [MWSF '06] that products that run Mac OS should include Mac in their names.
4. iBook will be re-named MacBook because it runs Mac OS and therefore should have Mac in the name.
5. Makes sense.
6. Do we have to draw pictures?

Yes, I hope they drop the 'i" from iMac as well. Probably won't happen until a re-design though.
I don't think they will ever drop the "i" in "iMac." 'iMac' has become synonymous with a desktop all-in-one computer. Everyone (even Windows lovers) know what an iMac is, the word "mac" just doesn't mean the same thing (e.g. could mean a hamburger at McDonalds).

[mad jew]

Anyone noticed the stores are down?


They're back up and I don't see any changes. :(

[MacQuest]

I don't think they will ever drop the "i" in "iMac." 'iMac' has become synonymous with a desktop all-in-one computer. Everyone (even Windows lovers) know what an iMac is, the word "mac" just doesn't mean the same thing (e.g. could mean a hamburger at McDonalds).

I understand where you're coming from EricNau, but I don't think that the switch to calling the all in one "iMac" a "Mac" is as profound as you [and undoubtedly many others] may think.

I don't believe that computer users will be lost/confused because the "i" was dropped. Actually, I think that Apple will just do it for consistency's sake [especially in marketing], knowing that the majority of people will continue to call it an iMac for years to come.

I just can't imagine that someone in a computer environment is going to think that they are being offered a hamburger because the salesperson keeps saying Mac anymore than someone standing in line at McDonalds is going to be expecting a computer with their fries. They probably won't even notice it.

Even in a non-computing environment and in a purely verbal exchange, you'd have to be pretty "Yvan256" to be talking about computers and be thrown off by hearing Mac as opposed to iMac.

Anyone noticed the stores are down?

They're back up and I don't see any changes. :(

Still down here in the U.S though. [keeping fingers crossed]

You Aussies get Apple stuff really late anyways, "mad jew". ;(

How's that iTunes Music Store working out for you guys over there? It's what?... a few months old now? :D

I know. I suck. ;)

[philipcolett]

Anyone notice that the Apple Store is down? When you click on the store link, the "ipod + iTunes" link changes to "music".

[EricNau]

Anyone notice that the Apple Store is down? When you click on the store link, the "ipod + iTunes" link changes to "music".
It doesn't say "music" for me. :confused:

[InTheBand]

Anyone notice that the Apple Store is down? When you click on the store link, the "ipod + iTunes" link changes to "music".

Yeah, I just started browsing through the posts [I always read a few of the last ones first, before going to the front of the thread].

This is exciting!!!

Maybe a new tab will show up on the Apple site that says "Videos" and that's where they'll put the current TV shows.

Then maybe they'll introduce the movie service early this week!

I read yesterday that Creative is set to announce it's movie service on March 30th, and I would imagine Apple is even farther along than they are.

This would be a serious blow to Creative, on top of the one that Apple has already given them [and everyone else] in the music player [and download service] market[s].

[iProd]

It says Music for me, too :O

[InTheBand]

It doesn't say "music" for me. :confused:

It does for me... and the store is still down!!!

:D

[EricNau]

It does for me... and the store is still down!!!

:D
Are we talking about this tab?

42936

[iProd]

Are we talking about this tab?

42936


Yes

[EricNau]

Yes
Well, this is not fair. :(

[InTheBand]

Are we talking about this tab?

42936

Yup. That tab doesn't show up for me anymore.

It just says "Music"... and the store is still down.

Eric, did you Empty Cache? maybe close and re-open your browser.

Ctrl-Alt-Delete maybe? ;)

[EricNau]

Store back up. Nothing New. :(

(and tab still says iPod+iTunes)

[iProd]

I demand viewing pleasures of this new update :(

[iProd]

Wait, are these new?

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/6084001/wo/ag7iq5HjVQ143Ap5EfJ2F9Ps9Xg/0.PSLID?mco=271F9386&nplm=TH499LL%2FA

[InTheBand]

Holey Crapple!!! :eek:

NOTHING... and the Music tab is gone! :confused:

The iTunes + iPod tab is back in it's place now. :mad:

We have just witnessed a leak people. Probably intentional to downplay Creative's announcement and to make them huddle and start crying in their corner.

Oh Apple, you're so sneaky. :cool:

[EricNau]

Holey Crapple!!! :eek:

NOTHING. :confused:

The iTunes + iPod tab is back. :mad:

We have just witnessed a leak people. Probably intentional to downplay Creative's announcement and to make them huddle and start crying in their corner.

Oh Apple, you're so sneaky. :cool:
You got a picture of it, right? :confused:

BTW: to answer your other post, yes, I did empty cache, tried another browser, etc. - still never saw it. :(

[InTheBand]

Darnit!

I should've opened "Grab" and taken a screen shot.

[Trowaman]

Darnit!

I should've opened "Grab" and taken a screen shot.

myself and drumpat01 saw the music tab. So there's two more witnesses for ya. It existed.

[EricNau]

Darnit!

I should've opened "Grab" and taken a screen shot.
Do you know about Command+Shift+3, Command+Shift+4, and Command+Shift+4+Spacebar ?

[iProd]

myself and drumpat01 saw the music tab. So there's two more witnesses for ya. It existed.

Me too :)

[InTheBand]

You got a picture of it, right? :confused:

BTW: to answer your other post, yes, I did empty cache, tried another browser, etc. - still never saw it. :(

We must've been typing at the same time. No I didn't get a picture but:
"I SWEAR ON EVERYTHING THAT I HOLD DEAR"
that the "iPod + iTunes" tab just said "Musc" for around 30 minutes.

"philipcolett" first reported it, and "iProd" said he saw it too.

[InTheBand]

Do you know about Command+Shift+3, Command+Shift+4, and Command+Shift+4+Spacebar ?

No I didn't... but I do now. :o

Well I'll be damned. I got little pdf's on my desktop. That info would've been very useful about 15 minutes ago. :D

Did you want me to attach one with the iPod+iTunes tab for you? :o

[iMeowbot]

The music tab is just a ghost from 2003 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/08/20030822231519.shtml). It sometimes appears when they switch to the dummy maintenance pages. Sorry that it's not much cooler than that :o

[EricNau]

The music tab is just a ghost from 2003 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/08/20030822231519.shtml). It sometimes appears when they switch to the dummy maintenance pages. Sorry that it's not much cooler than that :o
Well, that's too bad. At least it solves the mystery though.

:(

[InTheBand]

Well, that's too bad. At least it solves the mystery though.

:(

I still choose to believe that it was an intentional leak on Apple's part. Just to rock Creative's sinking boat.

It's just funner that way. :)

I mean, with the iTMS's established market dominance for legal online downloads, what "competitor" wouldn't be worried about another successful Apple online store and it's penetration into another market?

I can't help but think that NetFlix has gotta be a little worried as well. Apple can do what they're doing with no postal charges overhead, right?

I know a lot of people don't have broadband and won't be able to take advantage of Apple's iMovie Video Store / iDVD Movie Store, but Apple can probably snatch a good part of NetFlix's customers who do have broadband.

And then what's to keep Apple from taking even more of NetFlix's customer's by adding a physical delivery service like theirs?

EDIT: UPDATE!

I just saw a BRAND NEW [new to me, and I have my EyeTV on all the time] NetFlix mini "infomercial" about 3-5 minutes in length. The iMac is the only computer used in several shots throughout the commercial. :)

I just found it extremely amusing that I happened to see this NEW [to me] NetFlix commercial and the only one I know of that shows the iMac [I know the other one's used iBooks] right after i finished talking about Apple taking them "out" in the movie delivery/subscription[?] service industry.

[itcheroni]

Anyone else notice the shuffle is completely gone from the refurb store? I thought they listed everything, even if they only have the applecare to sell.

[InTheBand]

Wait, are these new?

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/6084001/wo/ag7iq5HjVQ143Ap5EfJ2F9Ps9Xg/0.PSLID?mco=271F9386&nplm=TH499LL%2FA

Yeah. I'm sure that those are what Apple just had to shut it's store down for. ;)

Anyone else notice the shuffle is completely gone from the refurb store? I thought they listed everything, even if they only have the applecare to sell.

How long has it been since you noticed that it was listed on the refurb store? Just curious.

Silver 4Gb iPod Mini for $149 is kinda tempting though.

Luckily, I can talk myself out of it by convincing myself that that's $149 that will be going to my vPod/iPod AV later this month! :D

[itcheroni]

The applecare was there about two days ago, no shuffle though. And I noticed last night there was nothing because I put an order for a shuffle in at Amazon and just wanted to double check if they had any at the refurb store.

[InTheBand]

The applecare was there about two days ago, no shuffle though. And I noticed last night there was nothing because I put an order for a shuffle in at Amazon and just wanted to double check if they have any at the refurb store.

Interesting, but I don't know what to make of it. :confused:

[itcheroni]

I'm hoping for a new shuffle that won't block neighboring usb ports. If they do it, it'll probably be announced at the event, you know, right after he mentions how many ipods they've sold in the past quarter and before the major announcement.

[lorien]

I hope it isn't something "fun". :p

Lol, damn well better not be anything "new" either ;)

[iHeartTheApple]

ok, yes-- BT Mightymouse... i have a mighty mouse and a BT mouse and i love both. (((let's go apple...)))

This would be pretty frickin' sweet, indeed! I would love to see a BT mighty mouse...:D

[GregA]

- I feel that it may be a "iPod AV" as many have called it with 3.5"-4" screen.I've been trying to think about what I haven't thought about... come up with something new :)

One thought that struck me - the current iPod has a low battery life when playing video because it has to power-up the hard disk every 6 or 7 minutes for a TV episode. Normally it only has to do that every 30 mins or so for music. So one solution is upping the 32MB cache. Or adding a 512MB ram chip like the shuffle has... OR....

When we talk about a 4" iPod screen, I think most people think of the existing iPod's thickness. What about if it was a 4" screen with the iPod Nano's thickness (or slightly thicker) and only 8GB? (no hard disk) Is that feasible? It'd sure look cool and hold enough video to make me happy :)

[Elrond39]

I’m also hoping for a new iBook/MacBook. Now the recent news of Apple investigating touch screen technology which can register multiple contact signals got me thinking… Sure a “tablet Mac” or large touch screen video iPod would be nice, but haven’t the last couple of years shown us that tablet pc’s aren’t as popular as the industry would have wanted them to be? And a touch screen iPod could have surely been developed and deployed long before the new multi-touch sensing technology, no? Now we also control our pods with just one finger movement or click.

A revolutional product I’d like to see being developed by Apple would be a new keyboard!
I know, might sound dull. But imagine a touch screen keyboard (that of course would benefit from the multi-touch sensing technology), without physical buttons. Your keyboard could be customized to your own liking, different settings for each program you use. It could serve as a next generation ‘joystick’ for gaming, or imagine adjusting your photos in Photoshop with a keyboard that actually let’s you move the colour sliders with your fingers … Granny wants to use the computer and switches to her own account, the keyboard now enlarges the buttons for her viewing pleasure. Or maybe your mother prefers an “AZERTY” keyboard layout to your preferred “QWERTY”. Pressing one button could open up a miniature set of other buttons. Keyboard backlighting would get a new meaning, heck, Apply could even build in a mini speaker that would make a ‘click’ sound to acknowledge that you pressed a ‘key’.

An input device like this would surely redefine ‘interface customisation’. And seeing as it would sit on your desktop, you needn’t worry about getting it scratched in your pants. :P
Nor would finger smudges be that annoying since this is your input device, and not the output device (computer screen) that you stare at all the time.

Now that’s a product I’d call 30th anniversary worthy!

*dreams on* >.<

Coolest idea I've heard so far for the 30th anniv. iPod AV is lost on me, this, on the other hand... Would make for a drastic blow to every other company in the laptop market, I'd say. Imagine how thin the Apple laptop line could be...

[owengot]

Well if it's a new ipod I'm guessing they'll dump the shuffle and make the nano the low end model, the ipod with video the middle and ipod av top of the range, in order to keep 3 different models, right?:rolleyes:

[tolly]

I've been trying to think about what I haven't thought about... come up with something new :)

One thought that struck me - the current iPod has a low battery life when playing video because it has to power-up the hard disk every 6 or 7 minutes for a TV episode. Normally it only has to do that every 30 mins or so for music. So one solution is upping the 32MB cache. Or adding a 512MB ram chip like the shuffle has... OR....

When we talk about a 4" iPod screen, I think most people think of the existing iPod's thickness. What about if it was a 4" screen with the iPod Nano's thickness (or slightly thicker) and only 8GB? (no hard disk) Is that feasible? It'd sure look cool and hold enough video to make me happy :)

That's a nice idea, but 8gb's is far too small, even if it does make it ridiculously thin, but i think it needs an 80gb hdd. Some ppl have even said up to 100gb.


All i want is a real video ipod to be released, and i'm 80% sure it will be.