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EvilDoc
Mar 20, 2006, 08:40 PM
So i guess all the rumors are true..
This is only a mockup
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/3/M/HAVABlog/4/2726_3544.jpg

http://xbox360news.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_2726.aspx

Might be kinda cool? but i doubt it...



illegalprelude
Mar 20, 2006, 08:44 PM
I think Microsoft will jump into it. I think they will also take the same approtch as sony in terms of, it will be more then a Game Machine, so no direct threat to the DS. I think it will prolly come with some form of Windows on it

Abulia
Mar 20, 2006, 08:54 PM
The concept is cool -- especially if it ties in to their 360 strategy -- but that mockup is UGLY! (RUNS IN TERROR)

No, seriously, linking that pic in any press release immediately gives people a negative impression of a portable Xbox device.

jrk07
Mar 20, 2006, 08:56 PM
Heres to hoping that they remember that a portable system is SMALL, LIGHT, and PORTABLE. For some reason I believe they like things to be gigantic (I'm looking at you first gen xbox controllers and xbox 1 console!).

If they have the same people behind the design of the 360 on this it has potential of looking cool and being fun.

Chundles
Mar 20, 2006, 08:58 PM
Have you read the "Press Release" for the XboxVP over at iLounge.com?

It's hysterical!! "A 5.6 pound ultimate portable gaming system with a separate 8 pound power adapter."

:D :D

2nyRiggz
Mar 20, 2006, 08:59 PM
Wow that thing is huge but it looks comfortable...think they will use mini disc IF they venture into the handheld market?


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illegalprelude
Mar 20, 2006, 11:12 PM
Have you read the "Press Release" for the XboxVP over at iLounge.com?

It's hysterical!! "A 5.6 pound ultimate portable gaming system with a separate 8 pound power adapter."

:D :D

i couldnt find?

GFLPraxis
Mar 20, 2006, 11:41 PM
Search for XBox on the main page and you get:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/microsoft-unveils-xboxvp-category-defining-portable-device/

jimN
Mar 21, 2006, 05:05 AM
sounds like an april fool - tis the season!

Dagless
Mar 21, 2006, 05:15 AM
What I don't get is how they vehemently were against the idea of a portable gaming. They even said something along the lines of "Nintendo own the handheld market" and criticised Sony's efforts with the PSP, and even SUPPORT the DS!

I call fud. I don't even know what fud means but it sounds right.

If they do make such a device however, i severely doubt it would be anything like the DS. Likely be something more like the N-Gage, it does everything else first before attempting games. Where the DS is something that primarily does games (only with hacking or accessories) and the PSP tries a little on all fields.

BoyBach
Mar 21, 2006, 06:10 AM
So i guess all the rumors are true..
This is only a mockup
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/3/M/HAVABlog/4/2726_3544.jpg

http://xbox360news.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_2726.aspx

Might be kinda cool? but i doubt it...


That is one extremely ugly looking mock-up :eek:

bokdol
Mar 21, 2006, 07:41 AM
"The game press has dubbed it an "iPod killer,''"

"• Quantax® PowerVP, a 200-watt, 8-pound power supply."

wow thats an ipod killer alright. i can see people running with an 8lb power supply.

any how from the actual specs of this machine i am guessing a 500 price tag. at least.

"• Intel® Xeon® MP-Xtreme™, a workstation-class dual-core 3.0GHz processor, backed by the Intel® E7505 chipset for high-bandwidth I/O configurations, and 1.5GB of DDR3 RAM.
• ATI Technologies® FireGL™ V7350, a leading-edge graphics accelerator designed for the most complicated 3D models, with an additional 1GB of GDDR3 RAM.
• Creative Technologies® X-Fi Elite Pro™ Audio Technology, permitting DVD-Audio quality, multi-channel surround sound with CMSS-3D, THX certification, Dolby® Digital EX and DTS-ES™ support, and "

i.Feature
Mar 21, 2006, 07:46 AM
Thats one fugly mock-up... can you imagine trying to put that thing in your pocket?

jimN
Mar 21, 2006, 08:00 AM
"The game press has dubbed it an "iPod killer,''"

"• Quantax® PowerVP, a 200-watt, 8-pound power supply."

wow thats an ipod killer alright. i can see people running with an 8lb power supply.

any how from the actual specs of this machine i am guessing a 500 price tag. at least.

"• Intel® Xeon® MP-Xtreme™, a workstation-class dual-core 3.0GHz processor, backed by the Intel® E7505 chipset for high-bandwidth I/O configurations, and 1.5GB of DDR3 RAM.
• ATI Technologies® FireGL™ V7350, a leading-edge graphics accelerator designed for the most complicated 3D models, with an additional 1GB of GDDR3 RAM.
• Creative Technologies® X-Fi Elite Pro™ Audio Technology, permitting DVD-Audio quality, multi-channel surround sound with CMSS-3D, THX certification, Dolby® Digital EX and DTS-ES™ support, and "

This would all run incredibly hot. Safe to say this is definietly someone's idea of a joke.

Piarco
Mar 21, 2006, 08:02 AM
any how from the actual specs of this machine i am guessing a 500 price tag. at least.

"• Intel® Xeon® MP-Xtreme™, a workstation-class dual-core 3.0GHz processor, backed by the Intel® E7505 chipset for high-bandwidth I/O configurations, and 1.5GB of DDR3 RAM.
• ATI Technologies® FireGL™ V7350, a leading-edge graphics accelerator designed for the most complicated 3D models, with an additional 1GB of GDDR3 RAM.
• Creative Technologies® X-Fi Elite Pro™ Audio Technology, permitting DVD-Audio quality, multi-channel surround sound with CMSS-3D, THX certification, Dolby® Digital EX and DTS-ES™ support, and "

You do know that was a joke? Right? Please tell me you know its a joke! :p ;) :D

Chundles
Mar 21, 2006, 08:16 AM
You do know that was a joke? Right? Please tell me you know its a joke! :p ;) :D

Oh I hope so too. That would be pretty embarrassing to be taken in by it. Paris Hilton wondering "why you need a dual-core Xeon to make phone calls"?? I don't think Miss Hilton can even say "xeon."

It's a funny read though...

whooleytoo
Mar 21, 2006, 08:19 AM
"The game press has dubbed it an "iPod killer,''"

If it landed on an iPod, it might be..

Dagless
Mar 21, 2006, 08:55 AM
hold up. it says in the article "It's meant to compete directly with the PSP and DS". This bit leads me to believe it's fake. As the DS was always cited as Nintendo's 3rd pillar. If they want to compete with anything from Nintendo they want to go ahead against the GBA and the upcoming GB2.
That sentence though. it just seems a little suspicious. something that an Xbox fanboy would come up with, who seemed miffed that MS weren't in the handheld market.

So is this actually officially announced and real? any word from MS?

bense27
Mar 21, 2006, 09:07 AM
Pretty cool, but I wouldn't buy it. I hate handhelds

Stevez0r
Mar 21, 2006, 09:58 AM
Agreed it's one ugly mock-up. All they did was take a 360 controller, stretch it and add a screen. Love the idea, though.

This is just me, I wish that you didn't have to buy two copies of the same game say to play on PSP and PS2.

wwooden
Mar 21, 2006, 10:04 AM
All I need is a handheld that plays Halo 2 online so that when I go home I can still play. Heck, I don't even need a screen, just have some AV cables from the device to a tv and it will be like regular XBox. That's all I need, now go make it Microsoft.

Haoshiro
Mar 21, 2006, 10:13 AM
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As the DS was always cited as Nintendo's 3rd pillar. If they want to compete with anything from Nintendo they want to go ahead against the GBA and the upcoming GB2.<snip>

You know I'm not actually sure about that anymore. Sure, I think Nintendo was taking a gamble with DS and didn't know how it would be received, plus they didn't want to make GBA owners think they were getting outdated. To me this sounds more like a failsafe "If DS doesn't do well, we'll continue on to make a GBA2 and nobody will think anything of it, since we clearly said this was just a '3rd pillar'.

But now, DS is doing really great... GBA software has drastically slowed down it seems like, plus DS plays GBA games... so do you really think the DS is still a 3rd pillar or their new portable centerpiece?

That discussion probably belongs in another thread though...

Regarding the handheld, I'm definitely interested in what they come out with but I doubt I would get one - even if Halo came out for (and I'm a big Halo fan)... I just don't really care to play those games again on a portable; I'd rather play fresh games ala DS/GBA (personally).

Dagless
Mar 21, 2006, 10:21 AM
You know I'm not actually sure about that anymore. Sure, I think Nintendo was taking a gamble with DS and didn't know how it would be received, plus they didn't want to make GBA owners think they were getting outdated. To me this sounds more like a failsafe "If DS doesn't do well, we'll continue on to make a GBA2 and nobody will think anything of it, since we clearly said this was just a '3rd pillar'.

But now, DS is doing really great... GBA software has drastically slowed down it seems like, plus DS plays GBA games... so do you really think the DS is still a 3rd pillar or their new portable centerpiece?

That discussion probably belongs in another thread though...

Regarding the handheld, I'm definitely interested in what they come out with but I doubt I would get one - even if Halo came out for (and I'm a big Halo fan)... I just don't really care to play those games again on a portable; I'd rather play fresh games ala DS/GBA (personally).

The GB2 is in development though. The single screened, non-touchscreen version of the DS only with way more power. Think PSP with games. Especially the way Nintendo are currently valuing beautiful design and crystal screens. The GB2 will be pretty dandy.

You have a good point there. Why play something as big and grand as Halo 3 on an Xbox 360, 5.1 pumping away with a 1080i projector pushing a very nice game* experience (estimated, it might be as bad as Halo 2). Only to have a wee handheld version that doesn't even compare. Don't get me wrong I love handhelds. But there are games specifically made for handhelds and there are games specifically made for big consoles.

GFLPraxis
Mar 21, 2006, 10:34 AM
The GB2 is in development though. The single screened, non-touchscreen version of the DS only with way more power. Think PSP with games. Especially the way Nintendo are currently valuing beautiful design and crystal screens. The GB2 will be pretty dandy.


We really have no idea what the GB2 though, or whether it will even be released in the next two years.

Abulia
Mar 21, 2006, 10:40 AM
Especially the way Nintendo are currently valuing beautiful design and crystal screens. The GB2 will be pretty dandy.A bit early to be annointing the next great Nintendo product, isn't it?

You guys really crack me up sometimes. :D

Mord
Mar 21, 2006, 10:54 AM
if M$ did do this it would have a 60GB HD on it to store games ect, and have games assigned to xbox live accounts so you download them on your 360 and put them on the handheld, heck they could just use xbox live arcade as it is.

2nyRiggz
Mar 21, 2006, 11:00 AM
^Yea and be just as big as the xbox with a screen....now thats a dell XPS weight.


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Dagless
Mar 21, 2006, 11:56 AM
A bit early to be annointing the next great Nintendo product, isn't it?

You guys really crack me up sometimes. :D

Do you have any idea of how popular the GBA was? it outsold the PS2 for one. I suppose Praxis or someone with the sales figures could claim it's the best selling games machine ever. The DS is doing extremely well. Every mainstream handheld before did extremely well.
Yup. I somehow don't think Nintendo will mess up the GB2. Do you?

bokdol
Mar 21, 2006, 11:58 AM
You do know that was a joke? Right? Please tell me you know its a joke! :p ;) :D


it is also coming form ipodlounge.....

but it would be funny just to see someone playing games attacher to a 8pound powerbrick

Abulia
Mar 21, 2006, 12:36 PM
Yup. I somehow don't think Nintendo will mess up the GB2. Do you?I didn't say they'd "mess it up," I said it was early to start praising the GB2 (or whatever it'll be) long before it's anything but a twinkle in someone's eye.

I mean we all know that Nintendo can do no wrong, but come on, even you have to admit that making presumptions on the quality of a product that has yet to be even designed is something of a stretch. :rolleyes:

BTW, the PS4 is going to be great. :D

takao
Mar 21, 2006, 01:00 PM
my guess is that they won't join the handheld market seriously unless they are making money in their xbox department (which without a doubt still is far off) and after all i'm not so sure if it would fit into the current MS strategy to step heavily into the living room market ...

they might try it 3 years from now but the xbox brand still has a lot of catch up to do
no it's not really a raving success everywhere (like in USA or especially UK) ... and i'm _not_ talking about japan ... it lacks the hype WoW has IMHO (i tried counting people i know personally who play it on my fingers/toes ... i stopped at 15.. and i _don't_ play it myself) or the PS had

GFLPraxis
Mar 21, 2006, 01:44 PM
Do you have any idea of how popular the GBA was? it outsold the PS2 for one. I suppose Praxis or someone with the sales figures could claim it's the best selling games machine ever. The DS is doing extremely well. Every mainstream handheld before did extremely well.
Yup. I somehow don't think Nintendo will mess up the GB2. Do you?

It outsold the PS2 for a long time but in the end I believe the PS2 did surpass it.

The GBA outsold every non-Playstation console this generation and the last (IIRC well over 70 million units sold NOT COUNTING the GB Micro and better backlight GBA sales, as this is sales stats as of over a year ago) put together. It's the most popular handheld of all time, but I do think the PS2 outsold it in the end.

GFLPraxis
Mar 21, 2006, 01:47 PM
hold up. it says in the article "It's meant to compete directly with the PSP and DS". This bit leads me to believe it's fake. As the DS was always cited as Nintendo's 3rd pillar. If they want to compete with anything from Nintendo they want to go ahead against the GBA and the upcoming GB2.
That sentence though. it just seems a little suspicious. something that an Xbox fanboy would come up with, who seemed miffed that MS weren't in the handheld market.

So is this actually officially announced and real? any word from MS?

Jimmi; Nintendo has NOT announced a GBA2 (they've said they'll eventually make one but haven't made any kind of announcements whatsoever), so Microsoft would not want to compete with them. The GameBoy Advance doesn't do 3D (worth beans anyway), so the DS is the logical choice for Microsoft to be trying to knock down. It makes more sense for them to target DS and PSP than GBA or GBA2.


And no, there are no official announcements and MS has declined to comment and said that it's full of speculation. This is classified as a RUMOR.

The only reason I'm suspicious is that Microsoft's previous comments were that Nintendo owns the handheld market and Sony is being stupid to go against someone with a 90% marketshare (sound familiar?) in a market and they expect Nintendo to win. Also, considering that Microsoft has yet to make a profit on the XBox, I doubt they would want to sell for a large loss and lose even MORE money, yet they would have to to make a portable XBox (or sell the unit for $300 as the PSP was originally predicted to cost). And when entering an already over-saturated market the only way to grab marketshare quickly is to dump the product, and Microsoft's already losing enough money that it would be a stupid idea to do it before the XBox 360 starts turning a profit.

MacRumorUser
Mar 21, 2006, 02:00 PM
And another thread trips over and falls into arguments and nasty digs in true fanboy style...:p

There are a number of problems they have to overcome, battery life with all that power, cost to consumer let alone every other facet of R&D, Design, Manafacture...

At this stage we have only an a knowledgment that they have something in development...

I'd be more shocked if they announced they had nothing in development...

It's more than likely going to be two or three years before this makes it to market, if it ever does... So stop bashing each other and take a chill pill :)

This will probably go up against the PSP 2 and NextGB derivatives ...

thechris69
Mar 21, 2006, 02:24 PM
what do you think the graphic capabilities are for the portable xbox? i predict a bit better than xbox 1 graphics

MacRumorUser
Mar 21, 2006, 02:28 PM
what do you think the graphic capabilities are for the portable xbox? i predict a bit better than xbox 1 graphics

I guess. But hey we don't even know the format games will be delivered on as yet...... Too many variables and concepts are all we could come up with, until we have a solid announcement and some basic hardware guidelines can we even begin to estimate the power & format and hence design of a device like this.....

GFLPraxis
Mar 21, 2006, 08:39 PM
And another thread trips over and falls into arguments and nasty digs in true fanboy style...:p

There are a number of problems they have to overcome, battery life with all that power, cost to consumer let alone every other facet of R&D, Design, Manafacture...

At this stage we have only an a knowledgment that they have something in development...

I'd be more shocked if they announced they had nothing in development...

It's more than likely going to be two or three years before this makes it to market, if it ever does... So stop bashing each other and take a chill pill :)

This will probably go up against the PSP 2 and NextGB derivatives ...

I dunno, I wonder if some of this stuff may be older leaks about Origami. A lot of people thought it was a portable gaming device, even the 'insiders' (who just knew Microsoft was working on some ultraportable device and assumed it was a portable).

2nyRiggz
Mar 22, 2006, 09:47 AM
^I was thinking the same thing....or maybe its a deploy by microsoft to get everyone talking then boom they hit us with it.


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