Quad Processor Macs

[arn]

SpyMac (http://www.spymac.com) posted a movie which claims to demonstrate the possibility of upcoming quad Macs.

And just last night, an anonymous source sent us video footage of what he/she claims to be "a screen capture from a machine [his/her] company is testing". The message was short, ending with a promise to try to find out more information about the system, which "arrived very recently".


A picture can be found here (http://www.spymacnews.com/tmpbbs/4cpu2.jpg).

[spymac blah]

look... spymac has basically copied Macrumor's site design!

[mcbane]

spymac seems to be a site dedicated to opinions with no "inside sources" to back it up. This is likely no different than the iWalk photos and movies, except easier to fake.

[Unregistered]

why is it floating on top of the dock?? my cpu monitor always goes under the dock. Looks fishy to me.

[Unregistered]

on top of dock

I f you select Toggle Floating Window it floats - looking at mine right now.
And yes, 4 sounds right for a quad mac.

[BillGates]

Why fake a Quad? They should have made something real tasty like an 8 way system.

[mcbane]

Originally posted by BillGates
Why fake a Quad?

Because a quad would seem more realistic than jumping to 8 processors. Don't get me wrong, quad systems may be a reality in the future, but I don't think this spymac thing is real.

[Unregistered]

For those of you with dual processor macs open up CPU monitor and start one quicktime movie playing... what do you notice? ***Both bars jump up to the same level!*** In the spymac video only *ONE* bar jumps. OS X does not distribute CPU load like that. it's equally balanced. My analysis, the movie is a fake.

--Dogcow Dave (Moof!)

[eyelikeart]

uh oh!! looks like SpyMac is up to it's doings again!!

this does look very cool and interesting though....I wonder if it is true?

there's been lots of speculation about Quad processor Macs....I think there's definitely something going on behind closed doors.... ;)

[Unregistered]

It seems like the movies are just open. Shouldn't the little play button turn into a pause button when the movies are playing?

Brian

[GetSome681]

I'm curious because of the new apollo chips and their supposedly new ddr memory or some sort, maybe quads are now a viable solution. I hope it's not true, because I might be tempted to get a quad 1.2 GHZ G4 machine rather then a G5..hehe

[mcbane]

heh, yeah, if the movies were all playing there should be a pause button rather than play. noob fakes

[theranch]

As I posted on spymac...
This movie is a fake...you can't have the cpu monitor window hover OVER the dock in OSX and have the dock effects occur underneath. I just did it with OSX and it doesn't work like they show in the Quicktime. The dock will always cover any window that you slide near it.
Nice try...NOT!
And...
Again...if you watch the video you will see the About CPU monitor window hover UNDER the dock but not the little window with the 4 bars simulating processor action. Another question...why is the video at 7.67 FPS......to keep the fake processor bars appear real? Fake. That one was easy to debunk.

I'm sure that people with OSX know what I'm talking about.

[Hemingray]

Yep, I'm afraid I'm inclined to believe it's fake. How about some more evidence, like opening up the frigging case? I'd love to believe it, but...

[Unregistered]

can someone please send me the movie of this quad machine to sev_@mac.com .. . icant d/l it from spymac.com.. also if you can send the pcitures of the machine i'de really appreciate it .. THNXS!

[sonyrules]

I cant even get access to it.. maybe there learning... naaaaaa

[pc_convert?]

Has anyone got the picture? If so can they get it up on a site, so we can all see it and pass judgement...

Not bothered about the movie

[Sayer]

There was a photo out ealier that showed a mystery box running apparently quad processors.

So SpyMac.com had some free time and made a faked up movie based on the previous fake quad mystery box photo since it seemed to garner a lot of attention.

Ignore it, its just a hit pumping ploy. Much like Dvorak articles.

[Gelfin]

I don't think there's any reason at all to believe anything from SpyMac, and to judge from the replies here, I don't think anyone does. If that site had any credibility, it's shot to hell now. My own suggestion is that we all play the "ignore him and he'll go away" game. Personally, I'd rather Macrumors didn't even bring that guy's pathetic plays for attention into my scope of consciousness. I don't go to his site for a reason, and I'd rather the mountain didn't come to Mohammed, so to speak.

[me hate windows]

why the heck does it say that the movie and the picture are forbidden?
a little help please

[eyelikeart]

this is why these sites are called "rumor" sites....nobody can be certain if any of the information should be taken literally or not....

just look at all of the info and take it all in.....then make judgements for yourself once u have seen a lot....not just from SpyMac....

[mac15]

you can't see them anymore
forbiden

[Unregistered]

http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/genesis.html

The year: 1996. The machine: Daystar Genesis 800 with four 604e processors. The price: 12,000 USD. Time in production: less than a year. Long enough for some idiot at the retouching shop I worked at at the time to convince the general manager to buy one. It sucked. This spymac picture looks suspiciously like the old Daystar. SpyMac wouldn't get something wrong, would they? Actually, do they get anything right?

Hopefully a G4 OS X power multi would be great...the Daystar was a joke in the shop especially when it had more downtime than a Yugo and the PowerTower w/ one processor running at 750mhz ran rings around it repeatedly even in Photoshop. It was great listening to the guy who bought it attempt to put a good spin on it. Wow, that machine sucked.

Why does everyone seem to think that multi-multiprocessor machines are some unheard of dream? We had 4 processors in 1996. And why does anyone even believe a single thing that Spimac.com posts? They are unreliable liars.

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by Unregistered ...the Daystar was a joke in the shop especially when it had more downtime than a Yugo and the PowerTower w/ one processor running at 750mhz ran rings around it repeatedly even in Photoshop. It was great listening to the guy who bought it attempt to put a good spin on it. Wow, that machine sucked.[/B]
What kind of machine is the "PowerTower" you speak of? I came onto the Mac scene after the clones were killed off, and 300Mhz was the fastest PowerPC there was then. In fact, I don't think Intel/AMD were much faster.

In other words, I believe your claim of a 750Mhz machine is wrong. (or am I missing something here?)

[theranch]

After seeing that video and tearing it a new one I have decided not to visit that site any longer. First the iwalk video now this. It's all crap on that site.
theranch

[kirknord]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
there's been lots of speculation about Quad processor Macs....I think there's definitely something going on behind closed doors.... ;)
Well, since the G4's like to play nice with each other and the fact that OS X is essentially BSD, there's no reason really to NOT imagine 4, 8, 16, 32 processor configurations. BSD can scale to some unholy number or processors. It's simply a cost factor. If they could make rack mountable multiprocessor servers, well that might make it more feasible in a server environment.

Now, whether or not Apple is actually developing these systems is another story altogether.

Just imagine a cluster of quad+ 1Ghz+ processor macs as a render farm!

[groucho]

EVERYBODY PLEASE LOOK HERE!!
I have read all the comments from you guys but when looking at the about window of my cpu monitor, it says 1.0 (v23), plus it is made 2001. Now if you look at the quicktime movie, at the about box it says 2.0 (v114) and made in 2002. This might answer the question to why the window is above the dock. Also the quicktimes in the background look perfectly normal and so does evreything else (apart from the cpu monitor of course). I might be wrong and i just haven't updated my versions lately but those are my two cents of thought.

[kainjow]

Have you guys noticed that of all the rumors sites, SpyMac is the only one that ever has movies of anything? None of the other sites ever have movies (to my knowledge). So then you can infer that the movies are fake, because if they weren't, why don't other sites have them?

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I'm thinking...

[rekras]

i dont trust spymac

[networkman]

hey, eye, you may need a quad processor mac to keep up with your big time posting ;-)

now that you are close to 1000, all of us oldtimers will be here waiting for the day you reach that magical number

if i am not mistaken, motorola must have some yield problems in their production of g4s since they (apple) don't ofter BOTH a single and a dual g4 1 ghz model which would be way better for sales

if the yield was high enough for that, then a quad would make sense

how does this sound

low end 1 ghz g4
mid level dual 1 ghz
high end quad 1 ghz

i could see it happening later this summer but next month would be very good for sales

if we as mac users had a quad 1 ghz, even though the people in the know realize that it's not 4 ghz, it still would shup up the mhz/ghz myth race and people (consumers) will start looking at features before SPEED

[G4scott]

Let me clarify something about the cpu monitor. I've even put in a picture (See attachment.) The standard window (the one on top of my picture, with the pretty background and blue bar thingy) stays behind the dock.

The floating window (the one on the bottom) stays on top of the dock.

Hopefully this will clarify some things. Of course, this picture may still be a complete fake. Especially since it came from spy-mac, and they're probably willing to put out everything they get to raise their creditability, and it isn't working. I can see how easy it would be to make a fake picture like that. Anyways, I just wanted to make some things clear.

[G4scott]

oh, and sorry for the lo-res pic. i had to give it crappy quality so the file was small enough to upload.

[Unregistered]

i Hav quadruple procesors too

http://homepage.mac.com/dschep/images/fake_quad.jpg

Not i did that with graphic converter(it's a G3 iMac)
by the wy spymac probably have photoshop or some ***** like that.

[samy85114]

Does somebody got this movie spymac talks about....?
I didN,t have the time to download it before they remove it...
So please, if you have it, just send it to samy@ssrnet.com...
I would appreciate!

[gandalf55]

ummm...

has anyone noticed those QT players fail to show a drop shadow? And they are layered so it would be easy to see how one drop shadow overlapped a QT window below?

there may be quads someday, but that's a freaking Pshop hack of a desktop screenshot with a bunch of QT players on layers... man. it's not even done well!!

[theranch]

Originally posted by groucho
EVERYBODY PLEASE LOOK HERE!!
I have read all the comments from you guys but when looking at the about window of my cpu monitor, it says 1.0 (v23), plus it is made 2001. Now if you look at the quicktime movie, at the about box it says 2.0 (v114) and made in 2002. This might answer the question to why the window is above the dock. Also the quicktimes in the background look perfectly normal and so does evreything else (apart from the cpu monitor of course). I might be wrong and i just haven't updated my versions lately but those are my two cents of thought.

That doesn't matter, I considered that but why then would one window be under the dock and the suspicious graph window be on top? It's easy to do in Quicktime and they did it. FAKE VIDEO!

[tadpole]

could it actually be that the vid is using an even older version?

In the Unix world v.23=2.3 and v114=1.14
BSD and Linux kernals as well as Gnome/KDE GUIs are labeled like this.


peace bro,
tad

[groucho]

Originally posted by tadpole
could it actually be that the vid is using an even older version?

In the Unix world v.23=2.3 and v114=1.14
BSD and Linux kernals as well as Gnome/KDE GUIs are labeled like this.


peace bro,
tad

yes, but the date of creation goes from 2000-2001 on my imac, but in the video it goes from 2000-2002, so my point is that it has to be a newer version. also what i'm trying to say about the versions is that maybe in the new one, the cpu monitor is SUPPOSED to be ABOVE the dock, and maybe it's an OPTION or DEFAULT.
maybe i'm wrong but i just have this feeling that spymac has gotten better, plus they say that the video was sent to them, and the thread on the spymac forums shows another picture series. thus it seems that spymac wouldn't go ahead and fake a video (again). (let's just all forget about the iWalk thing and move on)

[AmbitiousLemon]

ok none of us are prepared to trust spymac (except groucho) but we have all speculated about multiprocessors beyond 2 and many of us run g4 clusters because we just cant wait. so i guess what im wondering is what are the implications of apple research into multiple g4s and the subsequent launch of a multiple g4 system mean for the eventual release of a g5?

[Unregistered]

This is a complete fake. If the movies were playing we'd see the pause button instead of the play button

[Unregistered]

Sheep, you're all sheep. I can't believe MacRumors even posted anything about SpyMac. After several fiascos in a row, how can you people even bother talking about anything they report.

Credible or fanciful rumors can be fun, sure, but SpyMac is so obviously doing it to 1) gather traffic to their pathetic site 2) make you look silly.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by Unregistered
This is a complete fake. If the movies were playing we'd see the pause button instead of the play button


We're talkin' about the vid footage not the supid pic.
Read more careful before postin' ****!

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by Unregistered
http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/genesis.html

The year: 1996. The machine: Daystar Genesis 800 with four 604e processors. The price: 12,000 USD. Time in production: less than a year. Long enough for some idiot at the retouching shop I worked at at the time to convince the general manager to buy one. It sucked. This spymac picture looks suspiciously like the old Daystar. SpyMac wouldn't get something wrong, would they? Actually, do they get anything right?

Hopefully a G4 OS X power multi would be great...the Daystar was a joke in the shop especially when it had more downtime than a Yugo and the PowerTower w/ one processor running at 750mhz ran rings around it repeatedly even in Photoshop. It was great listening to the guy who bought it attempt to put a good spin on it. Wow, that machine sucked.

Why does everyone seem to think that multi-multiprocessor machines are some unheard of dream? We had 4 processors in 1996. And why does anyone even believe a single thing that Spimac.com posts? They are unreliable liars.

The Machine is an IBM AIX Box, I'm not possiive as to which one but... it is. For the more than uninformed many IBM makes PowerPC boxes for the PowerPC Chips that run AIX, all of which made by IBM. Granted most of these that you will find are 601 and 604 CPUs , as the 603 was **** and the G3 was based on the 603. The movie I didn't see but saw the pictures and laughed instantly I reckognized it as an IBM workstaion from it's earlier line.

[foosball316]

i Hav quadruple procesors too

http://homepage.mac.com/dschep/images/fake_quad.jpg

Not i did that with graphic converter(it's a G3 iMac)
by the wy spymac probably have photoshop or some ***** like that.

Was wondering if I could get a copy of that desktop image you're using (cool colors)? And how did you get the Dock to be on the bottom left of the screen? Suppose that coulda been faked too though. :)

[Unregistered]

eric_n_dfw

You are right...the PowerTower I was thinking about was @300mhz or so (maybe 250 mhz) - I am so used to referring to cpu speeds at so much higher speeds nowadays that I inadvertantly doubled it...The Daystar had 4x200mhz processors at the time and the PowerTower running at @250-300mhz (with slightly more total ram) kicked its ass all the time...

good catch! My bad. The Daystar still sucked ass regardless. I would like to see Apple release many processored CPU's - spimac.com has no insight into the possible road ahead though...those hacks couldn't follow the sun in the sky if you gave them a telescope on the top of mount everest.

[Schep]

This is for foosball316
i used this desktop
http://homepage.mac.com/dschep/images/Basic1024x768.jpg

\The dock pinning is real though, and is done with tinkertool
http://www.bresink.de/osx/TinkerTool2.html


Schep :)

[Unregistered]

Was something seriously screwed with that Daystar?! At the time the 800 was out I remember it being touted untouchable by any publication. I hope the poor sap had the MP extensions properly loaded for Photoshop, and had enough RAM to feed the app.

[blindman858]

I am sorry can someone tell me what quad is. Thanks!

[oldMac]

It's amazing how many posts the SpyMac crap generates. This is especially amazing since they've shown a consistent ability to create & post fake photos and movies of products.

Can anyone give me a single instance where SpyMac was right about *anything*?

[BeerDrinker29]

Actually, if you consider how long they have been open, they are not doing too bad.

Many of their rumors can not be proven right or wrong (such as this quad stuff.)

But:
Right: Posted a couple of the Apple Slogans a head of time
Right: Pretty much nailed the release of the new PowerMacs - just a week off.
Right: Again, the 10.1.3 update - other sites confirmed that Spymac was right, but Apple had to postpone.
Right: Apple not releasing iMacs in Canada until the 18th. I just got off the phone with my dealer (I'm getting one ! Yay!) and he said that although he's had an ETA of "this week" for awhile, it seems like the day reported is going to hold out.

False: Have'nt kept track of this, but I'm sure they outnumber the right.

[BeerDrinker29]

But anyway, this thread isn't about some rumor site, it's about the possibility of Quad G4s..

[joek]

Originally posted by BeerDrinker29
Actually, if you consider how long they have been open, they are not doing too bad.

Many of their rumors can not be proven right or wrong (such as this quad stuff.)

But:
Right: Posted a couple of the Apple Slogans a head of time
Right: Pretty much nailed the release of the new PowerMacs - just a week off.
Right: Again, the 10.1.3 update - other sites confirmed that Spymac was right, but Apple had to postpone.
Right: Apple not releasing iMacs in Canada until the 18th. I just got off the phone with my dealer (I'm getting one ! Yay!) and he said that although he's had an ETA of "this week" for awhile, it seems like the day reported is going to hold out.

SpyMac has NOT been the first site to post these "right" rumors...

They just repost other people's rumors and say "according to our sources..."

They don't "break" stories... they rewrite them.

[krossfyter]

they will never come out with Quad Macs.


Im sure they would rather spend thier money on getting motorola to re design the processors architecture to be up to a G5 and beyond.


better to shoot for 1 processor equaling the power of 4 1ghz processor.

[mischief]

Originally posted by blindman858
I am sorry can someone tell me what quad is. Thanks!

From the Greek(?) : A set of four. Four of something, To express four parts or elements.

See also: Pent:5, Sex(t):6,Sept:7, Oct:8, Non:9, Dec:10 :)

How about an Octet of G5 1Ghz?;)

[krossfyter]

do you smell the WEED?...cause I do.

[mischief]

Originally posted by krossfyter
do you smell the WEED?...cause I do.

You haven't noticed? I always "think different". Hey! If they ever Legalize, that'd be the Ultmate marketing slogan!

"Texada Gold, Think different.";)

BTW have any of you noticed how many of the "think different" personalities were infamous stoners? (Jim Henson being the one that comes to mind first.)

Who else but a Chronic could have enough things running at once to need a Quad?;) :rolleyes:

[Unregistered]

Forget about spymac, lets discuss the real issue quad or more processor macs. As a hardcore user of my dual 800 mac transitioning from os 9 to X multi processors can make a serious difference.Granted many users will be fine with one fast processor but some of us would sure welcome the advent of a quad packing machine.

[Onyxx]

agreed

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by blindman858
I am sorry can someone tell me what quad is. Thanks!

"Quad" is short for the number 4. When we talk about Quad Macs we are talking about Macintosh Computers with four processors.

Personally, I hardly ever visit SpyMac and I feel that I can get better results from a site such as MacCentral or MacWorld.
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