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MacRumors
Feb 4, 2003, 06:42 AM
AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=110) updates after a long break, and under new management and claims to detail specs on new iMacs.

According to their report, the low end with feature a 15" LCD at 867MHz at $999, with the rest of the line sporting 17" LCD's ranging from $1199 - $1699 and toping out at 1GHz.

15" LCD, 867MHz, CD-RW, $999
17" LCD, 867MHz, Combo Drive, $1199
17" LCD, 867MHz, SuperDrive, $1499
17" LCD, 1GHz, SuperDrive, $1699

While AppleInsider has had a good rumor record in the distant past, the site has not seen regular updates and has also seen a change in management (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=105 ). As a result, overall reliability of its current incarnation is unknown.

Our own information suggests that Appleinsiders' prices/specs are incorrect, and we expect $1299, $1499 (15" LCD, Superdrive), and $1799 price points with no CD-RW model.



paulie
Feb 4, 2003, 06:45 AM
$1699!! Sign me up for one of those bad boys!!

Wonder what Apple Japan's slightly inflated price will be..

dricci
Feb 4, 2003, 06:47 AM
This sounds great, but shouldn't we have seen these already at apple.com if they are infact coming out today (as TS claims?). Midnight has come in gone in Cupertino (Apple usually makes changes to their site at exactly midnight Cupertino time)

Knox
Feb 4, 2003, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by dricci
This sounds great, but shouldn't we have seen these already at apple.com if they are infact coming out today (as TS claims?). Midnight has come in gone in Cupertino (Apple usually makes changes to their site at exactly midnight Cupertino time)

Last week's Powermacs were announced at 8am PST and i vaguely remember previous upgrades being announced at the same time, so I wouldn't be expecting to see them before then, assuming the rumours are correct.

beez7777
Feb 4, 2003, 07:04 AM
woudnt this also mean eMac price drops? who would buy a 1499 emac with a superdrive, when hey can get a 17" iMac with a superdrive for the same price?

MacsRgr8
Feb 4, 2003, 07:09 AM
Very nice prices!!!

Too bad not all of 'em reach the psycological 1 GHz barrier... and a GeForce 2 MX in the low end :confused:

arn
Feb 4, 2003, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Macrumors
Our own information suggests that Appleinsiders' information is incorrect, and we expect $1299, $1499 (Superdrive), and $1799 price points with no CD-RW model.

Stof
Feb 4, 2003, 07:17 AM
So, MacRumors thinks the AI specs for the 17" models are correct, but wil come at the pricepoints predicted bij TS. That seems like a nice rumorblend to me. If this is true (no longer having the 15"), then Apple is creating more distance between eMac and iMac. In fact the iMac seems to be targeted at the prosumer (or did we ban that word after the Cube?);) I wonder what they'll do with the eMac; lower prices, better configurations or both.

P.S. The European Apple stores just went down for maintainence!

arn
Feb 4, 2003, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Stof
So, MacRumors thinks the AI specs for the 17" models are correct, but wil come at the pricepoints predicted bij TS.

actually, I think AI's report is incorrect... of course they might hit a couple of details just out of random chance/specualtion...

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030129220556.shtml

arn

Bear
Feb 4, 2003, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Knox


Last week's Powermacs were announced at 8am PST and i vaguely remember previous upgrades being announced at the same time, so I wouldn't be expecting to see them before then, assuming the rumours are correct.
I don't know what time the official announcement was last week, but the Apple Store updates were done a bit before 6AM Pacific Time.

Stof
Feb 4, 2003, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by arn


actually, I think AI's report is incorrect... of course they might hit a couple of details, but I stand by this report (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030129220556.shtml).

arn

Sorry, I thought you meant that AI was only wrong about the prices and the 15" but correct for the specs. AI's prediction for the top model seems to resemble yours.

Well, we will know in about an hour:cool:

houttbe
Feb 4, 2003, 07:44 AM
European stores are down!

backspinner
Feb 4, 2003, 07:47 AM
picture

reflex
Feb 4, 2003, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by houttbe
European stores are down!

But only the European stores, apparently.

RedEric
Feb 4, 2003, 07:50 AM
Forget the iMac were gonna get new iPods. Please...please...please...:D

Stof
Feb 4, 2003, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by reflex


But only the European stores, apparently.

No problem, everything is going the same way as last week. Then the Euro-shops also went down first. Then apple.com showed the new hardware and the euro-shops went online about an hour after that. So, new hardware is still on its way!

DakotaGuy
Feb 4, 2003, 07:53 AM
867Mhz and 1Ghz...now those numbers just seem to sound right. I guess we will have to wait and find out what is going on today with all the other specs, but an entry level 867Mhz and a high end 1Ghz makes sense to me looking at the rest of Apple's line.

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 07:53 AM
strange how the uk store is down like in the pic and the same as during macworld sf but the usa one....maybe we are gonna get all the goodies and leave the us out as a gift for us paying crazy prices .... hehe :rolleyes:

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by dstorey
strange how the uk store is down like in the pic and the same as during macworld sf but the usa one....maybe we are gonna get all the goodies and leave the us out as a gift for us paying crazy prices .... hehe :rolleyes:

Damn right baby. You better believe it. New hardware is coming. But I think you are well in sci-fi realm with your theory about Apple giving preference to foreign customers above american ones...:D

CrackedButter
Feb 4, 2003, 08:02 AM
Yay! I suppose this is the only time when a site is down or under construction that it is a GOOD thing!

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by NicoMan


Damn right baby. You better believe it. New hardware is coming. But I think you are well in sci-fi realm with your theory about Apple giving preference to foreign customers above american ones...:D

On a side note, I cannot believe the pace at which Apple are updating their lines... Since the beginning of the year we have had 1 new line of hardware (PB 12 and 17), 2 new apps (keynote and FCExpress), 1 iApp update (iLife), 1 PowerMac line update and now this (whatever this is...).

AMAZING!!!

NicoMan

dricci
Feb 4, 2003, 08:04 AM
US store is down as of 8:04 AM (EST) :D

Bear
Feb 4, 2003, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by NicoMan


On a side note, I cannot believe the pace at which Apple are updating their lines... Since the beginning of the year we have had 1 new line of hardware (PB 12 and 17), 2 new apps (keynote and FCExpress), 1 iApp update (iLife), 1 PowerMac line update and now this (whatever this is...).

NicoMan
You forgot the updates to the PowerMacs in that list. And the iApp update is three seperate products that were updated. Among other smaller announcements by Apple at MacWorld.

cliffm
Feb 4, 2003, 08:05 AM
The US store is down too!

New Ipods are a coming.....

arn
Feb 4, 2003, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by cliffm

New Ipods are a coming.....

I don't think so... :)

arn

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Bear

You forgot the updates to the PowerMacs in that list. And the iApp update is three seperate products that were updated. Among other smaller announcements by Apple at MacWorld.
I realized it straight after posting it but didn't have time to repost before you pointed it out...

You guys are on the ball...

Respekkkt!!!

NicoMan

LAURENCE
Feb 4, 2003, 08:08 AM
I think this is what we have been waiting for! There is a message when you try to enter the store saying that they are updating and will be online within the hour... Look forward to seeing which of those rumours are true.
If you don't believe me check now..
http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore
ps. its the uk store

mmork
Feb 4, 2003, 08:08 AM
...the German store just was up for a second, it said "The new imac", price was the same 1507 Euro for the low end model as before... no sopecs were available though.

MM

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by arn


I don't think so... :)

arn

When arn says it like that, you'd better believe him. Anyway, iPod updates for another day (not everything at the same time, tsk tsk tsk...).

NicoMan

arn
Feb 4, 2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by NicoMan


When arn says it like that, you'd better believe him. Anyway, iPod updates for another day (not everything at the same time, tsk tsk tsk...).

NicoMan

heh... no - that's honestly my opinion... I don't think so. that's all.

arn

RedEric
Feb 4, 2003, 08:12 AM
I will not stand for it:mad:

I want a new iPod.

Arn...make it happen please!

Even if it aint true please just say it is so I can have half an hour's happiness. Please Arn;)

cliffm
Feb 4, 2003, 08:12 AM
Well, I'm still optimistic.

Besides, my 20 gigger still hasn't shiped!! The same thing happened to my 15" PB.

It kept getting delayed until the new ones came out.. The Ipod is showing the same behavior..

We shall see..

CrackedButter
Feb 4, 2003, 08:14 AM
Wouldn't updating everything hurt sales, its not like everybody can afford everything!

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 08:15 AM
At least we were first for something...putting the store down ;-) do we get penalised for a false start? hehe

VeeDubMac
Feb 4, 2003, 08:15 AM
http://store.apple.com/

dricci
Feb 4, 2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by VeeDubMac
http://store.apple.com/

Yep. See about 20 posts back ;)

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by arn


heh... no - that's honestly my opinion... I don't think so. that's all.

arn
There was also someone who said that his sources mentioned also the 15" PBook update at the same time as the iMacs...

Any idea ?

(I know: we shall see in a few minutes...)

NicoMan

RedEric
Feb 4, 2003, 08:19 AM
Reuters breaking news...

The UK have today been crowned World Champions.

In a rare victory over the US, the UK Apple Store team were the first past the Winners Post in taking the Apple Store offline.

The Queen has asked for an informal Tea Party for the victorius Champions this afternoon.

More details as they arise.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

VeeDubMac
Feb 4, 2003, 08:20 AM
I thought all those posts were for the UK store... Anyway, they're both down now (UK AND US)

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 08:21 AM
can someone explain to me the us/canada/sing/jap telephone system of having letters in a number? how do you dial them? has anyone tried one of them numbers to see if they will spill the beans?

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:22 AM
I can just imagine everyone refreshing the Apple Store webpage every few seconds... muahahahahaha.

NicoMan

Hozie
Feb 4, 2003, 08:23 AM
Not to stray off subject here, but has anyone noticed that when the Apple store is down, you can't check your order status? (At least in Europe.) No big deal I guess, but it just seems stupid to me, especially since I have a 12" powerbook coming up and I NEED to check the status everey 10-15 minutes! :D

MacsRgr8
Feb 4, 2003, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by NicoMan
I can just imagine everyone refreshing the Apple Store webpage every few seconds... muahahahahaha.

NicoMan

it's really happening... (I am)

RedEric
Feb 4, 2003, 08:24 AM
Each number has letters associated to it.

Very popular advertising method in US e.g.

Dial-4-PIZZA

maehara
Feb 4, 2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by dstorey
can someone explain to me the us/canada/sing/jap telephone system of having letters in a number? how do you dial them? has anyone tried one of them numbers to see if they will spill the beans?
Assuming you have a mobile - check the keypad: see the letters on each key? Just dial the words... so 1-800-MY APPLE is really 1-800-69 27753.

CrackedButter
Feb 4, 2003, 08:25 AM
Yeap, clicking refresh is becomming a part time job.

LAURENCE
Feb 4, 2003, 08:26 AM
Definetly new imac or ipod operator said but wouldn't say which.................

dricci
Feb 4, 2003, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by dstorey
can someone explain to me the us/canada/sing/jap telephone system of having letters in a number? how do you dial them? has anyone tried one of them numbers to see if they will spill the beans?

There are 3 letters above each number.

Example: http://www.yorku.ca/mack/uist01-f1.jpg

Some companies just take advantage of the letters being there and give out their number as 1-800 MY APPLE (which translates to 1-800 692 7753). It makes it easier to remember. I thought that all phones were pretty much like this now :confused:

CrackedButter
Feb 4, 2003, 08:27 AM
If thats the case why bother having "MY APPLE" why not have the number like other nations do?

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by CrackedButter
Yeap, clicking refresh is becomming a part time job.

glad i have opera, it does it for you at set intervals (mines set to 5 secs) I'm checking both uk and usa....who will be first past the post :D

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by LAURENCE
Definetly new imac or ipod operator said but wouldn't say which.................

How about both??? (I don't think so, arn doesn't seem to think so, but hey you never know)

NicoMan

pretentious
Feb 4, 2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by CrackedButter
If thats the case why bother having "MY APPLE" why not have the number like other nations do?

Because... Its fun?

cliffm
Feb 4, 2003, 08:29 AM
Its easier to remember.. Just like domain names are easier to remember than IP addresses to most ppl ;)

maehara
Feb 4, 2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by dricci
I thought that all phones were pretty much like this now :confused:
It's not that common in the UK other than on cellphones (and that's for text messaging) - for some reason it's one way of making easy-to-remember numbers that our advertisers never picked up on...

CrackedButter
Feb 4, 2003, 08:30 AM
More importantly who will be the first to buy one?;)

RedEric
Feb 4, 2003, 08:30 AM
How about updated iMacs and reduced price iPods. That would satisfy about 80% of us.

cliffm
Feb 4, 2003, 08:31 AM
What would it take for the other 20% then? :confused:

claughery
Feb 4, 2003, 08:32 AM
still would like a 40 giger though...

pretentious
Feb 4, 2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by cliffm
What would it take for the other 20% then? :confused:

PPC 970!!

Hozie
Feb 4, 2003, 08:33 AM
Sites I am currently refreshing every 5 seconds:
1) macrumors.com
2) apple store
3) apple order tracking page

....sigh, life is tough when you have too much time!:D

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by dricci


There are 3 letters above each number.

Example: http://www.yorku.ca/mack/uist01-f1.jpg

Some companies just take advantage of the letters being there and give out their number as 1-800 MY APPLE (which translates to 1-800 692 7753). It makes it easier to remember. I thought that all phones were pretty much like this now :confused:

Our mobiles are but we just use the letters for txt's as far as i know, pressing '2' twice to get 'b' etc, we don't use them for normal phones as phone no's as far as I know though newer land line phones may have the letters on the keys. Iguess in this system a, b or c is 2 not press 2 twice to get b like in text's

maehara
Feb 4, 2003, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by RedEric
How about updated iMacs and reduced price iPods. That would satisfy about 80% of us.
That would work here - I want an iMac, the girlfriend wants an iPod (and I would be buying it for her in a "Yes, i *know* I shouldn't have spent £1400 on a new computer when I already have 7 of 'em, but here's a lovely gift" kind of way...).

Chisholm
Feb 4, 2003, 08:35 AM
Darn it! The Apple Store is down. Gosh, well it looks like February 4th is an acurate prediction for SOMETHING!

pretentious
Feb 4, 2003, 08:36 AM
New IMACS!!!

melchior
Feb 4, 2003, 08:36 AM
it's a phone company thing.

not all countries have legislation to the affect. australia only got it's with the deregulation a few years ago.

Hozie
Feb 4, 2003, 08:36 AM
it's new iMacs!

cliffm
Feb 4, 2003, 08:36 AM
Woop!

Front page says New Imacs!

Store Still nown :(

MacsRgr8
Feb 4, 2003, 08:36 AM
THEY ARE THERE!!!!

www.apple.com

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 08:37 AM
usa and uk up.... i call it a dead heat

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:37 AM
I just got through on the UK store. I couldn't see anything different. Now that's weird.

NicoMan

Hozie
Feb 4, 2003, 08:38 AM
So, pretty much what we anticipated, right? Too bad there aren't any iPod revisions... Damn you and your omniscience Arn! :D

dricci
Feb 4, 2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by MacsRgr8
THEY ARE THERE!!!!

www.apple.com

eMac updates too starting at $999 with 700MHz and Combo Drive

Lowest iMac is now $1,299 though :rolleyes:

Edit: typo

RedEric
Feb 4, 2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by maehara

That would work here - I want an iMac, the girlfriend wants an iPod (and I would be buying it for her in a "Yes, i *know* I shouldn't have spent £1400 on a new computer when I already have 7 of 'em, but here's a lovely gift" kind of way...).

You know what...you must be my long lost twin brother...just ask my wife if she's heard that a million times.

Her usual response though is WTF do i want that for?

Although maybe that has nothing to do with computers.:confused:

CrackedButter
Feb 4, 2003, 08:38 AM
Er its like the same prices..whats going on? Steve trickss uss yeesss hess trickss us?

MacsRgr8
Feb 4, 2003, 08:38 AM
I'm sorry, but the low-end sucks

NicoMan
Feb 4, 2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by dstorey
usa and uk up.... i call it a dead heat
Except that there is nothing new on uk...
Or am I losing it?

NicoMan

-hh
Feb 4, 2003, 08:39 AM
$1299

15-inch LCD flat screen
800MHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX
32MB DDR video memory
256MB SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA hard drive
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
56K V.92 internal modem
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Ready
Bluetooth Optional


$1799

17-inch widescreen LCD
1GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
64MB DDR video memory
256MB DDR266 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
56K V.92 internal modem
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme Ready
Bluetooth Ready


$2348

17-inch widescreen LCD
1GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
64MB DDR video memory
1GB DDR266 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
56K V.92 internal modem
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme built-in
Bluetooth built-in



FWIW, I wasn't expecting the price on the last one...but then realized its loaded with RAM & Airport & Bluetooth.

-hh

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by NicoMan
I just got through on the UK store. I couldn't see anything different. Now that's weird.

NicoMan

new imacs only i think

1 GB of memory on the build to order model"!! but only gforce 4 mx :-(

giovanni
Feb 4, 2003, 08:40 AM
Apple got cheap, it is either 1ghz or 800mhz....

arn
Feb 4, 2003, 08:40 AM
new thread is up to discuss new iMacs... see

http://www.macrumors.com

maehara
Feb 4, 2003, 08:40 AM
$1,299
15-inch LCD flat screen
800MHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX
32MB DDR video memory
256MB SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA hard drive
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
56K V.92 internal modem
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Ready
Bluetooth Optional

$1,799
17-inch widescreen LCD
1GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
64MB DDR video memory
256MB DDR266 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
56K V.92 internal modem
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme Ready
Bluetooth Ready

$2,348
17-inch widescreen LCD
1GHz PowerPC G4
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
64MB DDR video memory
1GB DDR266 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
56K V.92 internal modem
Apple Pro Speakers
AirPort Extreme built-in
Bluetooth built-in

Captnroger
Feb 4, 2003, 08:41 AM
$2348 for the top of the line? I think it's overpriced. 1ghz and 1GB RAM, overkill for the platform in my opinion. $1999 would have been a better price point.

I was looking forward to the old model at $1499. I hope that is the price for the ones they are closing out. $1799 is a good deal for sure!

dricci
Feb 4, 2003, 08:42 AM
None of the updates include FW 800!? What are they thinking! You have to have access to it for companies to want to utilize it! :eek:

Stike
Feb 4, 2003, 08:42 AM
Congratulations, arn!
You got it...again :D

I couldn“t have guessed it better :D

Hozie
Feb 4, 2003, 08:42 AM
Yeah that top-pf the line model seems out of whack. Who's going to shell out 2,300+$ for a consumer machine? Granted, it's got a gig of RAM and superdrive, bluetooth and aiport extreme, but you could get a low-end powermac + 17" LCD for the same price! Dunno, seems a tad expensive... even more so than usual.

dstorey
Feb 4, 2003, 08:47 AM
the high end must be the most un-upgradeable apple...ats all maxed out already, i was hopeing that maybe the 1gb was a one dimm thing

Captnroger
Feb 4, 2003, 09:22 AM
Anyone know what they'll be selling the old 17" for to get rid of remaining stock?

gopher
Feb 4, 2003, 04:04 PM
A good place to check prices on remaining stock is http://www.macprices.com/

MacKid
Feb 5, 2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Captnroger
$2348 for the top of the line? I think it's overpriced. 1ghz and 1GB RAM, overkill for the platform in my opinion. $1999 would have been a better price point.

I was looking forward to the old model at $1499. I hope that is the price for the ones they are closing out. $1799 is a good deal for sure!

It also has AirPort Extreme AND Built-In Bluetooth, where as AE is not included on the first, optional on the second, and Bluetooth isn't included on the first and is optional on the second.;)

MacKid
Feb 5, 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by dricci
None of the updates include FW 800!? What are they thinking! You have to have access to it for companies to want to utilize it! :eek:

Wouldn't companies. . .use. . .PowerMacs. . .? Just my thoughts.:)