[PSP] PSOne Emulator pics

[Haoshiro]

Well here it is (http://pspupdates.qj.net/Sony-s-upcoming-PSone-emulator-pics-/pg/49/aid/14470)...

So if that is true then you have to download the games and pay $15/ea... wooh.

Still, $15 is cheap for say, Einhander (rare Square game).

[2nyRiggz]

That sounds great...bring it on. $15.00 is much less than i expected and would be welcomed to the PSP collection.


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[GFLPraxis]

A few things I have to question.

1) I still don't get it. How can you play PS1 games without L2, R2, and the second analog stick?

2) Why is Final Fantasy VII listed and no others?

3) Final Fantasy VII...didn't that ship on four CD's? Doesn't that mean...slightly less than 2.8 GB? Do we honestly want to download that to a memory stick?

[2nyRiggz]

I'm sure they figure all the button config out(hopefully map them to another button).....no worries here, they have to get it right.

The way i look at it is you download it on your HD and when u wanna play it you DL into your mem stick....people have the big mem stick these days.

Metal Gear,Silent hill...oh man!


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[GFLPraxis]

I'm sure they figure all the button config out(hopefully map them to another button).....no worries here, they have to get it right.
What other buttons? lol


The way i look at it is you download it on your HD and when u wanna play it you DL into your mem stick....people have the big mem stick these days.


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Well yeah but you still need a 3 GB memory stick. $$$$!

[takao]

What other buttons? lol

that was the question fro mthe beginning but since there are rumors of a new psp with included camera for the end of the year i guess they simply add the buttons on that version


Well yeah but you still need a 3 GB memory stick. $$$$!

ps1 games all shipped on cds .. and for multiple cd games i guess you have to get more/bigger memory sticks

[Sutekidane]

It sounds like a great idea, but there's no way I'm going to pay $100+ for a memory stick and pay $15 a game and pay $250 for a PSP, and another $20 for 'required' accessories (screen protector, extended battery).

[greatdevourer]

Is it just me, or do those pics look very homebrew ;)

[Jomoma]

$15 is a little pricey, but I'd try it out. The added bonus of wifi for some of the games would be great. I'm pretty convinced that this is going to happen. It just makes sense to bring in money with these old games that no one's buying now.

Perhaps they'll stream larger games to you, so you only have the parts of the game you need? It'd require wifi, but save you from buying big mem. cards. I don't know if that's even possible, but it sounds like it could be.

[Phat_Pat]

didn't PS1's controller not have the joysticks

http://www.alldual.com/IMAGE/VDOGM/SONY-PS1.jpg

yeah

iono sounds cool

[GFLPraxis]

didn't PS1's controller not have the joysticks

http://www.alldual.com/IMAGE/VDOGM/SONY-PS1.jpg

yeah

iono sounds cool

The first gen controller didn't but shortly after launch they released a SECOND controller with TWO joysticks and rumble (called Dual Shock).

[BlizzardBomb]

The first gen controller didn't but shortly after launch they released a SECOND controller with TWO joysticks and rumble (called Dual Shock).

Well once they saw Nintendo's design anyway. :p

This looks great, but $15 for a very old game, plus what you have to store it on (a super large Memory Stick) sounds just a bit too expensive.

[illegalprelude]

I love it. Anti PSP people will always have something to cry about. It just dosent really matter. Need Memory Stick, Need more buttons, I have to use electricity to charge my psp, $15 is too much. $1 is too much. My thumbs might hurt. What if I download the game and I dont like it. Its awesome.

Bring on the downloads. 4GB memory stick pro duo's out in a few months. :D

[2nyRiggz]

I love it. Anti PSP people will always have something to cry about. It just dosent really matter. Need Memory Stick, Need more buttons, I have to use electricity to charge my psp, $15 is too much. $1 is too much. My thumbs might hurt. What if I download the game and I dont like it. Its awesome.

Bring on the downloads. 4GB memory stick pro duo's out in a few months. :D

Indeed....it always the same no matter what comes to the table and i'm sure they will figure out a way for the controls. I'm waiting on this because i would love to full my 200Gig HD with PS1 games and take em on the go...i'm ready to dish out for a 4gig mem stick....


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[Dagless]

I love it. Anti PSP people will always have something to cry about. It just dosent really matter. Need Memory Stick, Need more buttons, I have to use electricity to charge my psp, $15 is too much. $1 is too much. My thumbs might hurt. What if I download the game and I dont like it. Its awesome.

Bring on the downloads. 4GB memory stick pro duo's out in a few months. :D


erm. But the button thing IS a problem? Some games need all 4 shoulder buttons (I didn't play many PS1 games but Tomb Raider and Air Combat are 2 examples). I dunno. It will be very good on the PS3. but the PSP? the memory sticks and buttons are a huge problem. Especially when for the price of a 2gb Memory Stick Duo thing you could get another console. hmm.

[GFLPraxis]

I love it. Anti PSP people will always have something to cry about. It just dosent really matter. Need Memory Stick, Need more buttons, I have to use electricity to charge my psp, $15 is too much. $1 is too much. My thumbs might hurt. What if I download the game and I dont like it. Its awesome.

Bring on the downloads. 4GB memory stick pro duo's out in a few months. :D

I'm not crying about anything; I genuinely don't understand how it's possible to play a PS1 game while missing an analog stick and two buttons.

[Haoshiro]

I'll be looking forward to seeing what happens though... I'm sure people on this board that are willing to spend iPod amounts of money on a memory stick will be able to tell us how it works. :D

[Dagless]

I'll be looking forward to seeing what happens though... I'm sure people on this board that are willing to spend iPod amounts of money on a memory stick will be able to tell us how it works. :D

I spent a lot of money on a 4gb Microdrive. Can I use that in a PSP? Just that might be good for PS1 emulation, so long as I can still store 50-100 RAW images on it.
Can the PSP read RAW images? That would be very useful for me.

[zap2]

Well that looks nice, but again the money it takes to do it, is just to much. I mean

PSP-250
Memory Stick-2Gb-179
Moives-30 a pop, and only works on the PSP
Games-30-50(50 for the "better ones)
Extras-(Strong Case ect) 20
PS1 games-15

719 for 3 moives, 3 games, and 2 PS1 games, the PSP, Memory Sticl, and Extras, and if you want to store music on your PSP you'll need even more memory sticks:rolleyes:

Good idea, a nice groups of add ons out there for people to buy, but to price to make the PSP do what sony brags about it doing so well.

End RANT:o

[Dagless]

Cost even more than that in the UK!
though I don't full heartedly agree with the numbers. I mean I have a GC with 19 games, 4 controllers and 3 memory cards. If someone said "here, you can have this all now for £695" I'd probably have ran away. Console expenditure work in that you spread the cost over the life of the console. All at once would be an awful lot, it's realistic but it's still a lot!
That said you would need to spend a lot to play PS1 games on the go.

Personally I'd stick to the PS3 for old games. Especially in HD.

[2nyRiggz]

Didn't the PSP price dropped to $199? and the mem sticks also?.....i won't be EVER getting movies on the PSP i use it for games and nothing more...they learn there lesson with the $$ handheld....

Hope they price the games different(like less for the not so hot games)


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[GFLPraxis]

Didn't the PSP price dropped to $199? and the mem sticks also?.....i won't be EVER getting movies on the PSP i use it for games and nothing more...they learn there lesson with the $$ handheld....

Hope they price the games different(like less for the not so hot games)


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No, Sony announced they're GOING to drop the price to $199 later on.

It's still $249. Actually, at GameStop today the signs said $259.

[Sutekidane]

They released a $199 'core' system. Basically, the PSP itself, battery, and charger. No case, earphones, memory card, strap, remote, etc.

I just got one a few days ago, with a 1gb memory stick and a $40 game it came out to near $400. I could of gotten an xbox 360, for around the same price (they had them in stock) but I don't want a lemon, and there are no games I want for it.

So far I like it overall, though I'm not sure if it was worth the price.

[illegalprelude]

Well that looks nice, but again the money it takes to do it, is just to much. I mean

PSP-250
Memory Stick-2Gb-179
Moives-30 a pop, and only works on the PSP
Games-30-50(50 for the "better ones)
Extras-(Strong Case ect) 20
PS1 games-15

719 for 3 moives, 3 games, and 2 PS1 games, the PSP, Memory Sticl, and Extras, and if you want to store music on your PSP you'll need even more memory sticks:rolleyes:

Good idea, a nice groups of add ons out there for people to buy, but to price to make the PSP do what sony brags about it doing so well.

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ur kidding right?
PSP - $199
2GB - $99
Movies - $15
Games - 30-50 but 50 for the better ones? umm So Daxter and Socom and Syphon filter are just crap but their 40?
Case - $20? Now you gotta be kidding me. Ur complaining about $20 for a case to protect ur stuff. Solution. Dont buy it. WOW!

Walmart, most movies $15
Newegg, 2Gb for $100 Shipped.

Like I said, people will always bitch and complain about something. lol hopefully gonna pick up a second psp by months end (the white unit) :)

[2nyRiggz]

No, Sony announced they're GOING to drop the price to $199 later on.

It's still $249. Actually, at GameStop today the signs said $259.

Nope...the core system is already out and selling at EBgames at $199 and at the psp site.


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[illegalprelude]

Nope...the core system is already out and selling at EBgames at $199 and at the psp site.


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roger that. ive never also heard of a $259 PSP unless it had something extra on it but for $10? I would think not

[GFLPraxis]

roger that. ive never also heard of a $259 PSP unless it had something extra on it but for $10? I would think not

I know, even the GS guys thought it was weird, and the price was actually $249, but the stickers they recieved were $259.

[zap2]

ur kidding right?
PSP - $199
2GB - $99
Movies - $15
Games - 30-50 but 50 for the better ones? umm So Daxter and Socom and Syphon filter are just crap but their 40?
Case - $20? Now you gotta be kidding me. Ur complaining about $20 for a case to protect ur stuff. Solution. Dont buy it. WOW!

Walmart, most movies $15
Newegg, 2Gb for $100 Shipped.

Like I said, people will always bitch and complain about something. lol hopefully gonna pick up a second psp by months end (the white unit) :)

HeadPhones, at least a softcase(ya most people need them) which is no longer even in the 199 unit. And you "forgot" PS1 games. Also a 2Gb memory card reaally is not going to last for long. for me 800 songs, would need 4Gb chip, and a memory stick per PS1 game. No matter how you add it up, a PSP is one pricey handheld games system. Also i'm not complaining because i'm not buy a PSP because its to pricey. Hell for price of a PSP and add ons i could get many better things

[DisFrikkenWill]

this would be pretty cool, but i probly wouldnt do it. i would love playing the classics though, Resident evil games, metal gear,FF7,Legend of legaia all that good stuff

[Dagless]

I'm going into town today. I'll do a little price-up for the PSP in the high street, where most sales are made. Just it WILL cost more. and this is the UK.

I like everyone else buys stuff online for a million times cheaper. just to show that 1) the PSP is expensive and 2) the UK is rip-off capital of the world.

[illegalprelude]

I know, even the GS guys thought it was weird, and the price was actually $249, but the stickers they recieved were $259.

yea..hhmm. I wonder if it was a system glitch or what. Odd enough or GS trying to cash in a lttile :eek: :D

HeadPhones, at least a softcase(ya most people need them) which is no longer even in the 199 unit. And you "forgot" PS1 games. Also a 2Gb memory card reaally is not going to last for long. for me 800 songs, would need 4Gb chip, and a memory stick per PS1 game. No matter how you add it up, a PSP is one pricey handheld games system. Also i'm not complaining because i'm not buy a PSP because its to pricey. Hell for price of a PSP and add ons i could get many better things

Pricey? Tell me one other handheld that can do Music, Movies, Games, Web, Pictures, TV etc and then we can compare. Well the DS dosent have headphones but nobody complains so that must mean you like the feature that it can play music and so forth. So that means that you will pay for that extra feature. Again, Complaining about a headphone thats universal and can be used with 10 other devices. Im sure you have a set somewhere. 800 songs? sorry its not convenient for you. Ill write Sandisk to let em know we want the prices dropped on Memory Sticks today.

oohhh so for the price you can do better?
lets play the high price of PSP.
PSP - $250
4GB - $200
Case - $20

Lets say after all that pricing, its $600. Give me another slick device that will fit in your pocket, be widescreen, play high res games. It can play movies, Trailer, Music Videos, Store songs, Store pictures. Surf the web, Chat on and View tv on it.

Oh yea, soon to come, GPS and Web Cam but imagine this, you have to pay for the new add ons. I mean who does Sony think they are to charge for new stuff.

[Haoshiro]

Pricey? Tell me one other handheld that can do Music, Movies, Games, Web, Pictures, TV etc and then we can compare.

Okay, I'll bite...

The GP2X (http://www.gp2x.com/) there are distributors all over, including North America (http://www.gp32z.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2&HS=1) and the UK (http://www.gbax.com/)

GP2X - $190
4GB - $125 (SD)
Case - $15

Total: $330

Oh, and you don't have to worry about firmware, etc... it already runs linux. :)

[Dagless]

Pricey? Tell me one other handheld that can do Music, Movies, Games, Web, Pictures, TV etc and then we can compare.

The DS? A DS with that £30 M3 adapter? With the TV add on (I didn't know the PSP could do TV?), and it has a built in SD/CF card reader.

£100 - DS Lite
£30 - M3 adapter
£19 - Opera browser (or use DS Linux - free)
£30 - 2gb Sandisk SD card
=£179

AND the GP2X/X2. Can also do the same. But emulation and other "hack" software is allowed on the system so there's no hacking firmwares. Uses AA batteries and SD cards which are damn cheap. and TV-Out.

Lets say after all that pricing, its $600. Give me another slick device that will fit in your pocket, be widescreen, play high res games. It can play movies, Trailer, Music Videos, Store songs, Store pictures. Surf the web, Chat on and View tv on it.
The GBA was widescreen. the DS has high res games. It can do all the above with even GBA movie software, though the memory is extremely limited there unlike DS M3 adapter.

Went around 2 local towns today. The cheapest PSP I could find was the new £150 budget version which pretty much contains nothing but a PSP in the box. I thought they might have dropped the price to match the now £80 DS. I thought they might have dropped the price of the GB Micro too! I still want that machine cheaper.

[GFLPraxis]

Pricey? Tell me one other handheld that can do Music, Movies, Games, Web, Pictures, TV etc and then we can compare.

That's easy (see above posts).

In addition to that, the PSP sucks at most of it COMPARED to dedicated devices.

It costs FAR more and holds FAR less than an iPod for music and is a lot bulkier.

For movies, UMD's cost more, hold less, are lower quality, can't be watched on a big screen, and don't have the extra features. On top of that, studios are rapidly dropping UMD support, so pretty soon the PSP will only play ripped movies (that require ultra expensive cards and lots of time and effort).

Games, it does fine, though some genres have problems without the second joystick (like FPS).

Pictures, it does fine.

Web? No keyboard or mouse- you have to move the mouse with the joystick and type with the buttons. Ew.

[Haoshiro]

For movies, UMD's cost more, hold less, are lower quality, can't be watched on a big screen, and don't have the extra features. On top of that, studios are rapidly dropping UMD support, so pretty soon the PSP will only play ripped movies (that require ultra expensive cards and lots of time and effort).

This (http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/easy-recorder) might help that to some degree...

Games, it does fine, though some genres have problems without the second joystick (like FPS).

GP2X would have that same problem, as would GBA. And I don't really want to play a FPS with a stylus either. :\

Web? No keyboard or mouse- you have to move the mouse with the joystick and type with the buttons. Ew.

Stylus on DS would definitely be better for the web... For chatting at least the DS has a built in mic; you could do VoIP with it. :)

[2nyRiggz]

That's easy (see above posts).
In addition to that, the PSP sucks at most of it COMPARED to dedicated devices.
It costs FAR more and holds FAR less than an iPod for music and is a lot bulkier.
For movies, UMD's cost more, hold less, are lower quality, can't be watched on a big screen, and don't have the extra features. On top of that, studios are rapidly dropping UMD support, so pretty soon the PSP will only play ripped movies (that require ultra expensive cards and lots of time and effort).
Games, it does fine, though some genres have problems without the second joystick (like FPS).
Pictures, it does fine.
Web? No keyboard or mouse- you have to move the mouse with the joystick and type with the buttons. Ew.

I know this wasn't far:rolleyes: ...I watched a movie on my PSP for the first time last night and i must say its impressive(whats wrong with ripped movies.) TV was out a long time for the PSP(I won't bother with it though)...As for FPS none of the handheld do them well...MP:hunters is a strain on the hands(I'm a natural freak for MP)

Yup no keyboard and mouse....Not yet at least. I never had a problem with my PSP not doing what it suppose to so this "PSP sucks at this and that"....i have no idea whats going on there

Yup..anything to make another company shine right...

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[GFLPraxis]

This (http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/easy-recorder) might help that to some degree...


More money...


GP2X would have that same problem, as would GBA. And I don't really want to play a FPS with a stylus either. :\


True for GBA and GP2X. Have you tried FPS with a stylus? It's like keyboard and mouse.
But IMHO Sony should have included the second analog stick.

[GFLPraxis]

I know this wasn't far:rolleyes: ...I watched a movie on my PSP for the first time last night and i must say its impressive(whats wrong with ripped movies.) TV was out a long time for the PSP(I won't bother with it though)...As for FPS none of the handheld do them well...MP:hunters is a strain on the hands...


I imagine it's good, but IMHO the price does not justify the use for movies. A portable DVD player with a higher-res screen that plays standard movies (instead of a $250 machine + a $200 memory card to squeeze one or two movies on it) would perform much better for it.

Honestly, I'd rather get a DS and portable DVD player.


Yup no keyboard and mouse....but does the DS has one?(i love my DS but come on)

Yes, it does. The touchscreen emulates a mouse and has a keyboard.


I'm not claiming the PSP sucks, I just don't feel that the capability is worth the price for me. Every time I point out a problem with the PSP, someone tells me "oh, spend more money and you can fix that". Long loading times? Rip the game and copy it to a 2 GB memory stick and it'll run with no load times. Lack of UMD movies and high cost? Buy an expensive memory stick for it. No media to put on it via memory stick? Go buy a TV capture card.

I'm a college student. I can't afford to spend my money like that, and even I did I'd spend it on other things. $600 will buy me a freakin' LAPTOP, probably capable of playing Jedi Academy- heck, it could buy me a Mac Mini and I could finally have a desktop Mac and dual boot Windows on it!

In fact...a Mac Mini with 802.11g WiFi, Bluetooth, 60 GB hard drive, intel processor, 512 MB of RAM...

Mac Mini > PSP for me.

[Haoshiro]

I just don't like that the stylus has to be on the screen... and while using the stylus I can't do jack with the hand that's holding it... :\

[2nyRiggz]

Yes the stylist...


Yea i know this...thats why i changed it. The PSP have a KB coming out soon and i dont think the mouse is better..the nub does the job good.

I know everyone here is pro Nintendo..including myself but i'm also pro sony/xbox so when i hear people saying

nintendo will offer internet but you have to buy the thing seperate that connects..$39.00....people here go all nuts n stuff talking about how great it is

BUT if sony did the same thing and the only way u could connect to the net is by UMD.....people(some) will have a baby right here on the board....its nuts


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[Dagless]

GP2X would have that same problem, as would GBA. And I don't really want to play a FPS with a stylus either. :\

Why? that just sounds stupid, I don't want to sound mean but without providing a reason you just sound like a "DS sucks" sorta person. Which I'm sure you're not.

You're really missing out on something great. I've never had this much level of control in a game (Metroid Hunters), it works way more fluid that a keyboard and mouse to me. The only thing lacking is the DS's resolution, else I'd sell my Steam account. the stylus is the best thing to happen to FPS console games.

[GFLPraxis]

Yea i know this...thats why i changed it. The PSP have a KB coming out soon and i dont think the mouse is better..the nub does the job good.

I know everyone here is pro Nintendo..including myself but i'm also pro sony/xbox so when i hear people saying

Hey, don't get me wrong. I own a PS2 and several games for it. I've been playing Kingdom Hearts II like nuts recently. I'm not a Sony hater, I'm just not interested in the PSP.


nintendo will offer internet but you have to buy the thing seperate that connects..$39.00....people here go all nuts n stuff talking about how great it is

Huh?
You don't have to buy anything; the DS uses a standard WiFi connection. The $39 adapter is just a cheap WiFi connector for people who don't already have WiFi.

The DS works fine with Airport or any other standard WiFi hub.


BUT if sony did the same thing and the only way u could connect to the net is by UMD.....people(some) will have a baby right here on the board....its nuts


Yeah, of course- I'd be mad as heck if Nintendo did that too. They didn't. You obviously haven't played with a DS online ;)

[greatdevourer]

I just don't like that the stylus has to be on the screen... and while using the stylus I can't do jack with the hand that's holding it... :\ Er... what else do you want to do with it?


No, wait, don't answer that question :D

[Dagless]

I just don't like that the stylus has to be on the screen... and while using the stylus I can't do jack with the hand that's holding it... :\

But it's on a screen that you don't spend 99% of your time looking at? :confused: With extra buttons like weapon select etc built in.
Maybe it's just me, but I can align my hands to use the stylus, R shoulder button and 1 or 2 face buttons with no problems. I was a little surprised to see they didn't add some kind of detailed customisation of buttons in Hunters. Could have made use of those extra buttons. But really, it works fine. At least for me. Sure you miss things like crouch, prone, walk slow, lean etc. But I'm not missing much.

[2nyRiggz]

Huh?
You don't have to buy anything; the DS uses a standard WiFi connection. The $39 adapter is just a cheap WiFi connector for people who don't already have WiFi.

Yeah, of course- I'd be mad as heck if Nintendo did that too. They didn't. You obviously haven't played with a DS online ;)


I'm talking about surfing the web with the DS(of course i've played online, not in awhile though:()....i read an article that said you will have to buy a card(or something) to do this....the DS will not surf/watch tv alone..u have to get these add on for this.

FPS: be honest how many of you are playing MP:hunters and the stylist is all in your way...it just happens

I understand what u are saying about the price...these companies love the green(or whatever color it is in your section)...thats one of the reasons why i only play games/pictures on my PSP...


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[Dagless]

I'm talking about surfing the web with the DS(of course i've played online, not in awhile though:()....i read an article that said you will have to buy a card(or something) to do this....the DS will not surf/watch tv alone..u have to get these add on for this.

FPS: be honest how many of you are playing MP:hunters and the stylist is all in your way...it just happens

I understand what u are saying about the price...these companies love the green(or whatever color it is in your section)...thats one of the reasons why i only play games/pictures on my PSP...


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It hasn't got in my way and I'm using my Pocket PC stylus. then again I point it down so if anything, I block out the alt-transform button. But I sorta learnt where that was in the first 3 minutes of play. I just swap the stylus around depending on what I'm doing. Sniping, running, jumping. It's all 2nd nature now.

Personally I'm going to wait for DS Linux for my internet and everything else. I might get Opera if it's damn good. I don't mind paying £17 for it. Which was the translation from ¥.

[GFLPraxis]

I'm talking about surfing the web with the DS(of course i've played online, not in awhile though:()....i read an article that said you will have to buy a card(or something) to do this....the DS will not surf/watch tv alone..u have to get these add on for this.

Oooh, what they're talking about is that the web browser is sold on a cartridge like a game (I've heard nothing about it being $39- if that was the price it would be ridiculous!). There's no way to update the DS's firmware without cracking open the case, it's write protected.


FPS: be honest how many of you are playing MP:hunters and the stylist is all in your way...it just happens

Huh?

[Haoshiro]

But it's on a screen that you don't spend 99% of your time looking at? :confused: With extra buttons like weapon select etc built in.
Maybe it's just me, but I can align my hands to use the stylus, R shoulder button and 1 or 2 face buttons with no problems. I was a little surprised to see they didn't add some kind of detailed customisation of buttons in Hunters. Could have made use of those extra buttons. But really, it works fine. At least for me. Sure you miss things like crouch, prone, walk slow, lean etc. But I'm not missing much.

I don't have a DS yet, waiting for the Lite to come stateside. So, obviously, I haven't actually played the game.

I think I had seen some mock-up screenshots [of MP] and the 3D view was on the bottom with the stylus.

But after what you said, and thinking about how that would work then it doesn't seem like the Stylus would be in the way.

It still seems like it would be a tad odd to support the DS with your left hand, use the D-Pad and trigger, while having your right hand use the stylus exclusively. But again, I haven't had a chance to actually try it.

[GFLPraxis]

I think I had seen some mock-up screenshots [of MP] and the 3D view was on the bottom with the stylus.

That was the early demos from E3 2004.

[quote]

It still seems like it would be a tad odd to support the DS with your left hand, use the D-Pad and trigger, while having your right hand use the stylus exclusively. But again, I haven't had a chance to actually try it.

It works quite well actually. Then there's also left handed mode. Or you can use the thumb strap and support with both hands.

[Sutekidane]

I pretty much hate sony, and I got a PSP anyway. I'm pretty happy with it. Sure it could be better, but it does everything it's capable of doing decently. Sometimes I wish that I had gottan a GP2x simply for the hombrew. Homebrew on the PSP is a pain, I'd rather be playing some old sega genesis and SNES stuff rather than some of the crap that is available for PSP. There aren't really any games that stand out more than others. No real MUST HAVE games.

[2nyRiggz]

There aren't really any games that stand out more than others. No real MUST HAVE games.

Are you serious......Daxter, SFDark Mirror, SOCOM, GTA, Lumines, MegaMan(Two of em), Tokobot, wipeout pure, Metal Gear(two of em), burnout, WWE(besides the long arse loading)two RPG games which i dont care for but people love em, xmen titles.....there are alot of good games and too much average games but you gotta look...they are right there for ya.


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[zap2]

Are you serious......Daxter, SFDark Mirror, SOCOM, GTA, Lumines, MegaMan(Two of em), Tokobot, wipeout pure, Metal Gear(two of em), burnout, WWE(besides the long arse loading)two RPG games which i dont care for but people love em, xmen titles.....there are alot of good games and too much average games but you gotta look...they are right there for ya.


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Clearly those games are not must haves, not one of those games make me want a PSP. They need a game like Halo 2 and what it did for xBox , or the PSP.

[2nyRiggz]

^^Halo2 a must have?.....hell no it wasn't...haloCE was nice but not 2. You might not want it..thats your thing but as the PSP crowd thinks...they are.

They might not be ground breaking but they sure got the fun times going....lumines is lovely....but hey to each their own

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[Dagless]

^^Halo2 a must have?.....hell no it wasn't...haloCE was nice but not 2. You might not want it..thats your thing but as the PSP crowd thinks...they are.


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I agree with both of you 2 above guys.

Halo 2 was terrible in that it felt like Quake 3 to Quake 1 and 2. They took something with story and made it a multiplayer centric game. Destroying the quality feel the series could have had.

And the PSP games. Nothing is pulling me in. Nothing I've played, nothing I've seen coming out. Some 360 games are starting to do that now and I'm definitely going to buy a slim PS2 once they drop to a realistic price (most likely after PS3 launch), just before everyone goes and shouts "bias!". Lemmings might have had me, but not without a mouse/stylus.

[Sutekidane]

Are you serious......Daxter, SFDark Mirror, SOCOM, GTA, Lumines, MegaMan(Two of em), Tokobot, wipeout pure, Metal Gear(two of em), burnout, WWE(besides the long arse loading)two RPG games which i dont care for but people love em, xmen titles.....there are alot of good games and too much average games but you gotta look...they are right there for ya.


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None of those games interest me what-so-ever. They have pretty much all been done before, they're all part of series of games, besides lumines and tokobot. There are FEW fresh, new, or original games out. I'm playing my only game, Untold legends 2, and while it is mildy entertaining, it does feel like 20 or so other games I've played. Even though there are about 5 or 6 RPGs available, none of then are too great. Game selection is everything, especially with Sony systems which tend to do better than others simply for this fact.

[illegalprelude]

Yea i know this...thats why i changed it. The PSP have a KB coming out soon and i dont think the mouse is better..the nub does the job good.

I know everyone here is pro Nintendo..including myself but i'm also pro sony/xbox so when i hear people saying

nintendo will offer internet but you have to buy the thing seperate that connects..$39.00....people here go all nuts n stuff talking about how great it is

BUT if sony did the same thing and the only way u could connect to the net is by UMD.....people(some) will have a baby right here on the board....its nuts


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this is how its gonna go on every single thread. People Here are Pro Mac/Nintendo.

Anything anybody else does, sucks, omg i cant believe charging, their cheap, sucks, horrible.

but Nintendo or Mac does it. its a REVOLUTION. Dear god, a styles and Wireless play! A WORK OF ART! Never been done. worth the bang. :rolleyes:

Are you serious......Daxter, SFDark Mirror, SOCOM, GTA, Lumines, MegaMan(Two of em), Tokobot, wipeout pure, Metal Gear(two of em), burnout, WWE(besides the long arse loading)two RPG games which i dont care for but people love em, xmen titles.....there are alot of good games and too much average games but you gotta look...they are right there for ya.


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All I gotta say is. Socom, Online with a head set. that is pure hot.

Side Note, all Best Buys offer the $199 package

[GFLPraxis]

Are you serious......Daxter, SFDark Mirror, SOCOM, GTA, Lumines, MegaMan(Two of em), Tokobot, wipeout pure, Metal Gear(two of em), burnout, WWE(besides the long arse loading)two RPG games which i dont care for but people love em, xmen titles.....there are alot of good games and too much average games but you gotta look...they are right there for ya.


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None of those are must haves.

Well, GTA is for some, and is the PSP's best selling title, but I personally am not interested in the series.

In fact, the only games I'm interested in that list are Daxter, Lumines, and Burnout.

MegaMan might interest me, except that it's $50 for a PORT of two games I already own.

[Haoshiro]

this is how its gonna go on every single thread. People Here are Pro Mac/Nintendo.

Anything anybody else does, sucks, omg i cant believe charging, their cheap, sucks, horrible.

but Nintendo or Mac does it. its a REVOLUTION. Dear god, a styles and Wireless play! A WORK OF ART! Never been done. worth the bang. :rolleyes:

All I gotta say is. Socom, Online with a head set. that is pure hot.

Side Note, all Best Buys offer the $199 package

There are a lot of Pro-Nintendo people in this forums, that is true. But there are also plenty of Sony/etc fans as well.

There is a fun-per-dollar factor that effects me and it is usually in favor of Nintendo. There is also a quality factor and that often leans in favor of Nintendo in my eyes as well.

I have an iPod Mini (which now seems to be dead) and to be honest it got very little use. My portable CD player got more use, but that is only because I connected it to the car. Shortly before the iPod died I was getting more use out of it because of the radio transmitter (car) and my wife used it in our iHome clock radio... all in all it was nice, but not something I used often.

Personally I know I wouldn't likely watch movies on a portable player either. I have no interest in the web on a small portable device either.

This pretty much leaves me with a single reason to own a portable: Games.

I received a GBA SP for Christmas of last year with a game and picked up a few more since; I have had a huge amount of fun on it and so has my wife. It's a great value to me.

I used to be a console collector, I've owned every popular system, and many not-so-popular systems, from every company with the exception of the PS2.

I did not feel the PS1 ever justified itself even though there were several games I really liked. It overheated on me and gave me all sorts of problems that I never had with any other system I owned. When the PS2 came out it started out having no stock, which would have prevented me from getting it anyway; but ultimately my experience with the poor quality of the PS1 made me decide against spending the kind of money they wanted for it.

Sony has given themselves the image of low quality for high prices to me; I bought into their hype once and not again. So its not so much that I'm Pro-[whatever] its that my view of Sony is simply lower then the others. I think this is true for many of the people here as well.

[2nyRiggz]

None of those are must haves.
Well, GTA is for some, and is the PSP's best selling title, but I personally am not interested in the series.
In fact, the only games I'm interested in that list are Daxter, Lumines, and Burnout.
MegaMan might interest me, except that it's $50 for a PORT of two games I already own.

Like I said before...these games are must have for the PSP gamers i didn't say for you or him(it's what the PSP people want and most of them own it so its a have;) )...Megaman is $29 u really need to check that place thats selling you games.

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[illegalprelude]

There are a lot of Pro-Nintendo people in this forums, that is true. But there are also plenty of Sony/etc fans as well.

There is a fun-per-dollar factor that effects me and it is usually in favor of Nintendo. There is also a quality factor and that often leans in favor of Nintendo in my eyes as well.

I have an iPod Mini (which now seems to be dead) and to be honest it got very little use. My portable CD player got more use, but that is only because I connected it to the car. Shortly before the iPod died I was getting more use out of it because of the radio transmitter (car) and my wife used it in our iHome clock radio... all in all it was nice, but not something I used often.

Personally I know I wouldn't likely watch movies on a portable player either. I have no interest in the web on a small portable device either.

This pretty much leaves me with a single reason to own a portable: Games.

I received a GBA SP for Christmas of last year with a game and picked up a few more since; I have had a huge amount of fun on it and so has my wife. It's a great value to me.

I used to be a console collector, I've owned every popular system, and many not-so-popular systems, from every company with the exception of the PS2.

I did not feel the PS1 ever justified itself even though there were several games I really liked. It overheated on me and gave me all sorts of problems that I never had with any other system I owned. When the PS2 came out it started out having no stock, which would have prevented me from getting it anyway; but ultimately my experience with the poor quality of the PS1 made me decide against spending the kind of money they wanted for it.

Sony has given themselves the image of low quality for high prices to me; I bought into their hype once and not again. So its not so much that I'm Pro-[whatever] its that my view of Sony is simply lower then the others. I think this is true for many of the people here as well.

I think over all, this is a true and mature statement. I think alot of it goes to user experience. For example, I can tell you in a recent study done between Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, Sony was polled as the favored in terms of quality and reliability but that means nothing to those who have had a bad exeprience.

This can be partially true to the fact that Nintendo only makes 1 thing and so thats all they can be judged upon while Microsoft or Sony makes so many different things that there is just more of a chance for a consumer to run accross a product that they werent as happy with.

That being said, from PS1 to PS2 and PSP, ive had on luanch date. if im not using an Apple product, all my other electronics are Sony (from Alarm Clock, to laptop, desktop, dvd player, tv etc) and I have honestly not once had a single issue. I dont doubt there are plenty of people who have had bad experiences but that goes true to any brand.

Having said that, the PSP was one of the coolest things ive ever owned. Im big into movies and games. To me sleekness, Visuals and such are huge factors and the PSP brought me all of that. I dont mind shelling out $15-25 for UMD Movie or $40-50 for a game. Im not rich, college student but I have my priorities figured and I spend wisely for myself and not on little things I dont need. To me, going to class, being on campus, waiting for classes to start, the PSP has saved my life from pure bordem. Mostly the fact that it has all sorts of eterntainment inside of it.

Having said that, it needs to be July so the 4GB memory Sticks come out :D

[Haoshiro]

In the reverse, Sony also has more products that could impress consumers as well. The Sony Walkman, for example. They make good stereos, great TVs (WEGA), etc.

Their deceptive marketing (at least of the PlayStation) and competitor-attacking practices using dishonesty, are other large factors in my distaste for them. The CD DRM "scandel" (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27426) helped as well.

Marketing, Hype, Competition, all of that is a natural part of business but lying directly about an unreleased product is something I don't recall being done by Nintendo or Microsoft (at least in regards to the Xbox).

Of all the companies Nintendo has the best image to me; simply because I've never felt messed over by them or deceived, their reasonable pricing also helps. Microsoft is another story, I've had mixed experiences with them (Windows, Mouse/Keyboards, Xbox) some good, some bad. Their business practices are definitely what cause them the most hate amongst consumers, to my knowledge.

Oh, and how the PlayStation came to be is something else that doesn't win them any favor for me... but alas... they do make good TVs and CD Players.

[Haoshiro]

EDIT: Dupe Post.

[Dagless]

I think over all, this is a true and mature statement. I think alot of it goes to user experience. For example, I can tell you in a recent study done between Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, Sony was polled as the favored in terms of quality and reliability but that means nothing to those who have had a bad exeprience.

This can be partially true to the fact that Nintendo only makes 1 thing and so thats all they can be judged upon while Microsoft or Sony makes so many different things that there is just more of a chance for a consumer to run accross a product that they werent as happy with.

That being said, from PS1 to PS2 and PSP, ive had on luanch date. if im not using an Apple product, all my other electronics are Sony (from Alarm Clock, to laptop, desktop, dvd player, tv etc) and I have honestly not once had a single issue. I dont doubt there are plenty of people who have had bad experiences but that goes true to any brand...

Yea that big consumer poll took into account everything that these companies did. Sony amps were legendary, at least around here. It's only recently they've sort of dropped quality and the likes of Denon and co have surpassed.
This is it though. It's all recent. The Sony Minidisc is a perfect example of this. I bought an MZR-91 back in... I think 2001 but don't hold me to that! I was in year 10 of secondary school and it was THE Minidisc player. Solid magnesium case, extremely high quality everything. Then there seemed to be a break for a while. Then Sony came back with a £300 MD player and it was made from plastic! I mean... PLASTIC! My mate bought the first Net MD players and jesus. the thing was destroyed in a month. Covered in scratches, warped plastic. The thing was a mess. Then his twin brother got the next model! The fool.
Something happened that year to Sony audio equipment. All my local hi-fi shops stocked alternative models, they dropped Sony all around. Which left me trying to hunt for blank minidiscs a right pain.

If anyone has read my posts before you'd all know that I had serious problems with Sony hardware too. From TV's, speakers and music players. So I'm not going through all that again. Nothing has outlasted the quality and lifespan of my 1970's Teleton amp and Wharfedale speakers. Not Sony, Bose, nobody.

I agree though. Sony, to me at least, has this image of cheap hardware. They charge a premium for the brand name. Take away that and it's another Goodmans.